Josef: Hello World, I need help.

[Josef]

A little drowsy. sloppy. Dizzy. But that's not new.

 

Sleep is good with no nightmares at the moment.

Current weight: 95kg. overweight.

(Before meds: 73kg. underweight.)

 

Keeping up with my routines!

Update: I'm down to 68mg (little less than 10%)

 

[Josef]

Sleep apnea - is it permanent?

I am m choking every time I get up from a dream. Feeling miserable really. And don't want to even think about the machine! 😕

 

[Shep]

@JosefYou may want to check out with other members have said about this here:

 

Sleep apnea and CPAP

 

As far as it being permanent, it depends on what's causing it. Did you have this prior to psych drugs? Some people do develop sleep apnea, especially  because of the increased weight gain sometimes caused by psych drugs, but then it can get better as the weigh decreases after coming off the offending drug. 

 

[Josef]

That's good to know, tnx Shep!

I believe it's a mix between smoking And weight gain (I'm around 20kg above my true weight).

 

Update.

I have mild confusion waking up and lots of weird, funky and violent dreams ( I dreamt I was walter white and invented a totally new ending to the series 🐸) 

dizziness in the day, everyday.

muscle and stomach pain (mild)

 

but all and all feel fine mentally, today I got down to 60mg.

 

happy 2023

J

[Shep]

Thanks for the update, @Josef Interesting dream you had! 

[Josef]

Last few days with the new dose I started to feel somewhat tense and triggered by external environment for nothing. Rapid heartbeats, stuff like that.

I'm considering getting Magnesium today and I know they will help and that Ishould start with a minimal dosage of 25mg. (Don't have a bath at the moment for epsomSalt)

 

 

1. How much time it takes until the effect is noticeable? Or is that subjective too?

2. When do I decide whether to updose or not- and when?

3. Magnesium citrate/ Magnesium glycinate, a chelate? Are there more types? What's recommended for starters? 

Read the Magnesium thread.

 

Big thanks in advance,

J

 

 

[Shep]

@Josef You've read the magnesium thread, which is good. As you'll find from what members post about their own experiences there and in their own threads, it's really an individual decision. Some people like one form of magnesium, others like another. Start out low on the one you think may be most helpful to you and go from there. You may also want to google "foods high in magnesium" and get some of your magnesium that way. 

[littlebird]

On 12/20/2022 at 12:42 PM, Josef said:

I am m choking every time I get up from a dream. Feeling miserable really. And don't want to even think about the machine!

Oh, that’s awful! I know the machine seems intense, but I’ve got to urge you to try it. I don’t have sleep apnea, but my partner does, and after they (finally) tried the CPAP machine their life changed.

 

Honestly, so did mine, because I was sleeping through the night and getting good REM sleep. My partner went from waking up gasping (or having me shake them awake saying, “Don’t die on me, baybeeee”) to sleeping well through the night. They used to wake up grumpy as can be, and started waking up chipper and happy after the machine. Life changer.

 

Give it a shot, at least? I didn’t even have sleep apnea, just disrupted sleep from being next to someone who did, and I can’t tell you how much my mental health improved when I started getting good sleep. Seriously, I was SUCH a happier and more productive person.

 

Also, I don’t want to scare you, but I know a guy whose boyfriend died extremely young from sleep apnea. He just died in his sleep, and his boyfriend woke up next to his body. This is serious stuff, and you could save your own life by looking into help for it. Take care of yourself, keep breathing! 

[Josef]

I will try (The Magnesium.)

[Josef]

Okay guys I need you SOS.

 

The pharmacy made a big mistake and I'm taking double doses since 4th of January. (18 days) 

 

I take two capsules each day at the same time, to get my daily dose.(let's not get into why this is happening).

 

what happened was they have put 60mg in one capsule instead of 30mg in one capsule.

So I'm taking 120mg for the last 18 days. 

 

 I realized it only now when I sent them February prescription.

I don't know what to do...  HELP!!

[Josef]

Now I asked my GP to write a prescription--> 68mg daily dose.

Which is the last dose reduction of early December.

 

Advise me Please!!!!

 

@Shep @Altostrata @ChessieCat

[Josef]

Hopefully

I'll get 68mg (as In last December) batch as soon as possible. I will have more info tomorrow

 

Hopefully2

I'll be stable at 60mg today. Because it's either that, or 120mg

That's what I have in my posation currently.

 

Hopefully3

I will be stable enough on the 68mg daily dose (which I was on in last December) and so that my body didn't got used to 120mg dose.

 

**I took accidentally 120mg in the last 18 days, instead of 60.

 

 @hayduke what do you suggest? Is it the right thing I should do?

 

[Shep]

10 hours ago, Josef said:

what happened was they have put 60mg in one capsule instead of 30mg in one capsule.

So I'm taking 120mg for the last 18 days. 

 

2 hours ago, Josef said:

Hopefully

I'll get 68mg (as In last December) batch as soon as possible. I will have more info tomorrow

 

Hopefully2

I'll be stable at 60mg today. Because it's either that, or 120mg

That's what I have in my posation currently.

 

At 18 days, your nervous system may have started to adjust to the higher dose, so going to 68 mg sounds like a good starting point. 

 

Do you have a scale that you could measure out a different dose if you need to? 

 

Please let us know how you're feeling. 

 

 

[Josef]

Haven't really noticed any changes until 4/5 days ago.

Where physical feelings of exhaustion anesthetized, sleeping more than usual & less sensitized, and a general feelings ofchemicals has started to arise.

 

I myself don't have the equipment for their measures. they're mixing the tabs with glucose and ratios  are changing each time. 

Well- I messaged the compound pharmacy. Tomorrow i'll be updated of when new batch will be ready for pickup (hope for them it's on the house.)

 

that's for validating my issue Shep!! ❤️

[Shep]

You're welcome, Joseph. Please let us know how you do with the new pills. 

 

And yes - it definitely should be on the house! Sorry you're having to deal with that on top of withdrawal. 

[Josef]

Hey SA, I'm two days on 68mg.

I'm fine for the time Ikf writing. I do get very emotional. But that's fine too.

 

Adding some lyrics to remind myself, and others, we're going to get through this.

 

Quote

never wanted to become someone like him
So secure content to live each day just like the last
I was sure I knew that this was not for me
And I wanted so much more
Far beyond what I could see
So I swore that I'd
Never be someone like him

So many years have passed
Since I proclaimed my independence
My mission
My aim
And my vision
So secure content to live each day like it's my last
It's wonderful to know that I could be
Something more than what I dreamed
Far beyond what I could see
Still I swear that I'm
Missing out this time

As far as I could tell
There's nothing more I need
But still I ask myself
Could this be everything?
Then all I swore
That I would never be was now
So suddenly
The only thing
I wanted
To become
To be someone just like him

A doctor sitting next to me
He asks me how I feel
Not sure I understand his questioning
He says I've been away a while
But thinks he has cured me
From a state of catatonic sleep
For 30 years where have I been

Eyes open but not getting through to me

Medicate me, infiltrate me
Side effects appear
As my conscience slips away
Medicate me, science failing
Conscience fading fast
Can't you stop what's happening

A higher dosage he prescribes
But there's no guarantee
I feel it starting to take over me
I tell him not to be ashamed
There's no one who's to blame
A second shot, a brief awakening
I feel the relapse, can't break free

Eyes open but not getting through to me

Medicate me, infiltrate me
Side effects appear
As my conscience slips away
Medicate me, science failing
Conscience fading fast
Can't you stop what's happening?

Sailing on the seven, seize the day, tripper diem's ready
Jack the ripper, Owens Wilson, Phillips and my supper's ready
Lucy in the sky with diamond
Dave's not here, I come to save the day for nightmare
Cinema show me the way to get back home again

Spinning round and round
(Looking outward, reaching in) Scream without a sound
(Leaning over, crawling up) Stumbling all around
(Losing my place only to) Find I've come full circle

Flying off the handle
With careful with that axe
Eugene gene the dance machine
Messiah light my fire gabba gabba
Hey hey, my my generation's home again

Spinning round and round
(Looking outward, reaching in) Scream without a sound
(Leaning over, crawling up) Stumbling all around
(Losing my place only to) Find I've come full circle

Our deadly sins feel his mortal wrath
Remove all obstacles from our path
Asking questions, search for clues
The answer's been right in front of you
Try to break through, long to connect
Fall on deaf ears and failed muted breath
Loyalty, trust, faith and desire
Carries love through each darkest fire
Tortured insanity, a smothering hell
Try to escape but to no avail
The calls of admirers who claim they adore
Drain all your lifeblood while begging for more
Innocent victims of merciless crimes
Fall prey to some madmen's impulsive designs
Step after step we try controlling our fate
When we finally start living it's become too late

Trapped inside this Octavarium
Trapped inside this Octavarium
Trapped inside this Octavarium
Trapped inside this Octavarium

We move in circles
Balanced all the while
On a gleaming razor's edge
A perfect sphere
Colliding with our fate
This story ends where it began

 

 

 

 

[Josef]

Hello again,

down to 60mg today. got a batch for 1.5 months.

 

on another topic, is my boss. he has an issue. lately he is not in a very good state, financially and mentally. objectively speaking.

Bisunness's income is low due to several stores owners that had left the territory. so not enough costumers-not enough income.

 

it reflects on his behavior and he says all sort of stuff and all kinds of dushi remarks/preaches and that became daily. and not going to expand on it.

Becuase I know I'm a very good, hard working, dedicated ,(and his only) employee.

Time will tell for how long I can accept not being valued at all.

 

[Shep]

@JosefIf you haven't already done so, you may want to get your resume in order and start signing up for online job posting alerts. Knowing you're already working on finding something else if you need it may help with the stress level. Sorry you're going through that. It's the last thing anyone needs while also dealing with withdrawal. 

[Catina7]

On 12/20/2022 at 3:42 PM, Josef said:

Sleep apnea - is it permanent?

I am m choking every time I get up from a dream. Feeling miserable really. And don't want to even think about the machine! 😕

 

I recommend you get a sleep study.  My husband has obstructive sleep apnea and had to get on a CPAP machine after his sleep study showed he stopped breathing during the night numerous times.  If left untreated it can literally kill you.  I'm not trying to scare you, but it's better to get it checked out in case you need treatment.  Just trying to help!  

[Josef]

Thank you Catina 💛...

So many things I'm doing right now, but will schedule my time to go check my sleep in a lab.

 

yesterday was a bit of a mess, like hard heart pumps and woke up really early.

thinking about Ketosis a lot lately. Maybe because I do order takeaways from time to time.

I believe that's why probably yesterday went like it went (ehhmm nothing major really).

 

listened to some streams from Medicating Normal youtube channel, had me thinking about how I felt threatened for a good 6 month when the doc decided I'm going CT. real horror.

 

I would like to think it's a thing of the past now and wouldn't repeat itself.

 

And even though I have not passed the threshold (dose/accupancy wise) yet, I'm getting there.

promised, if anything will get out of hand- I will hold on that dose for a while (like I did at 100mg for 2 months), basically how much that it takes

 

So now, after the Pharmecy's false, I'm going to be on 60mg until April. so again Idon't care about delays so much and just trying to live my day to the fullest 

 

I Updated doses/meds in the signature according to my "health file" (don't know what it's called in your country hehe)

Most doses seemed aligned with what I read. Some other meds I wasn't sure until now what they were has been added too.

[Josef]

Some more updates-

1. today I've reduced the dose to 50mg.  sound like a milestone, but really. The reality is I'm far from recovery. (and that's OK.) and as for tapering- if I can stick to 10%, than making it to zero will take  around 2 years. (not zero, if I need to be exact for how much the pharmacy can scale is 10mgpw/4mgai of Amisulpride).
2. I think that for the next reduction I might order 60 Pills instead of 30. Just in case I would want to stay on a dose for longer.
3. I quit my job 1.5 weeks ago, even though there's an 'unwritten law' which says "don't quit your current job until you got something else", but I think it's fine. I don't have savings or planning to just sit around all day. but some time out is very welcome.  I'm already better today, not being around judgmental& none trusting and humiliating boss.
4. got today my order from bookdepository [R.I.P :'( ] the book on Ketogenic Diet for beginners. so started to read and plan some meals that's seems delicious!
5. thanks for reading  see ya!

[Shep]

Thanks for the update, @Josef. I hope you find a new job soon that isn't toxic. Let us know how you do with the ketogenic diet. 

[Josef]

hello everyone! It's an update, and I'd be happy for your assistant-

 

Hernia.

 

 

.. so yeah I have it. hehe

It began when I have had chronic pains in my stomach for around two/three years now (and still).

-

Went to my GP today because of swelling and belly pains, he said strictly "that is Hernia".  at least 15cm of abdominal muscle plus the belly button. 

Thought to myself all that time my belly just needs a workout, well uhhh nope!. that's not really the case.

 

So I must to schedule a meeting with a professional doctor. probably CT scan and wait for some results I already know of.

I'm well aware of the side effects and complications of these surgeries and treatments. 

I know all of that is common. but even more I think in the psychiatric community.

 

1. Should I do the surgery? (if needed) while in withdrawal?

2. Are there alternatives for the surgery? or is it the only way?

 

If someone you know shared his experience out here, with a good successful Hernia story, please share.

[Shep]

21 hours ago, Josef said:

1. Should I do the surgery? (if needed) while in withdrawal?

2. Are there alternatives for the surgery? or is it the only way?

 

If someone you know shared his experience out here, with a good successful Hernia story, please share.

 

Josef, please work closely with your doctor to ensure you get the most gentle care possible. 

 

Here are some members' experiences and insights:

 

Surgery and anesthesia

 

I didn't find a thread specifically for "Hernias," but here is the search results on the forum for the word "hernia":

 

SA - site search for "hernia"

 

You may want to research to see if there are any alternatives for this type of surgery and perhaps get a referral to a holistic or functional medical team to get a second opinion if you feel that's a better path for you. 

 

Many people have to have surgery, dental procedures, and deal with a variety of illnesses during withdrawal. It will be okay. Try not to panic.

 

If you have a list of the medications you'll need, you can place them in a drug interaction checker to make sure the meds are being handled correctly. 

 

Drug Interactions Checker

 

Please let us know how you do. 

 

[Beej]

Hello Josef

I have been following your journey for a long time, because I am tapering of Amulsipride myself. Currently at 62.5mg. (Close to you!)

Thank you for sharing. 

 

I created this account to let you know you MUST stop taking fish oil a week before any surgeries. It has strong anti-clotting properties and can be dangerous in that situation.

 

I wish you well.

[Josef]

"A minor update"

-

Today I started 45mg daily dose. Got 60 capsules from the pharmacy. just for backups. (costs the same)

[Altostrata]

On 6/11/2023 at 4:11 AM, Beej said:

I created this account to let you know you MUST stop taking fish oil a week before any surgeries. It has strong anti-clotting properties and can be dangerous in that situation

 

Thanks for your concern for Josef. Fish oil might have anti-clotting properties at extremely high doses, not at usual levels of intake. Traditionally, doctors advise people to stop fish oil before surgeries.

[Josef]

On 6/11/2023 at 6:11 AM, Beej said:

Hello Josef

I have been following your journey for a long time, because I am tapering of Amulsipride myself. Currently at 62.5mg. (Close to you!)

Thank you for sharing. 

 

I created this account to let you know you MUST stop taking fish oil a week before any surgeries. It has strong anti-clotting properties and can be dangerous in that situation.

 

I wish you well.

Beej, I didn't think anyone is following here  that's a surprise! &nice of you to say hello.

You're really marked some serious stuff, that was relevant, SO I THANK U !

 

so, can you elaborate a little about yourself?
For how long you're on Amisulpride? max dose?

 

-You don't really have to answer/participate if it's inconvenient to you and i'd respect that any way& privacy related. But if you do then I'll look forward to it.

Good weekend Beej and Everyone!

[Josef]

Got down to 41mg this evening.

will update later this week!

[Josef]

liver enzyme seems in norm values. LDL & HDL too. 

Also I checked H.pilori right in last week and results were good. I have pains there, and bad smells. oh and heartburns sometimes and I just don't know what is wrong

 

sleep is a little compromised for the last 4 weeks, maybe more.

sleeps lab test- there are no places I can get registered for scheduling a night unto 2024 (feb).

102kg

[Altostrata]

5 hours ago, Josef said:

sleep is a little compromised for the last 4 weeks, maybe more.

 

Please explain what this means.

 

It's possible that your gut has been upset from tapering.

[Josef]

Many things has changed from latest notes.. 

 

I sleep ok

37mg just from yesterday.

Having blood checks this Sunday.

Israel is tough. Bye

[Josef]

I have Celiac.

Anything to say?

[Carmie]

34 minutes ago, Josef said:

I have Celiac.

Anything to say?

Hi Josef, 

 

It’s good to see you’re chipping away at your meds, slow and steady does it. 
 

I’m sorry to hear that you found out you have celiac disease. You wanted advice, but I’m guessing you already know that it’s autoimmune and that you have to stay away from gluten as it will cause damage to your small intestine.
 

Be careful too with foods that don’t naturally have gluten in them but may be cross contaminated. I don’t have celiac, but I have a severe intolerance to gluten. Just a small amount of cross contamination can cause stomach pain, nausea, diarrhoea etc. 

 

It’s also a good idea to eat non inflammatory foods as well. 
 

Sending hugs🤗

[Altostrata]

@Josef you may wish to join one of the many peer support groups on Facebook that address celiac disease.

[Josef]

I'm pausing with reductions because the situation with Hamas.

There are series of checks. if there is much to update I will post.