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☼ schizor: can the brain recover from antipsychotics?

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lundeliz

Great news! So happy for you and thank you so much for coming back and letting us

 

know how you are doing! It helps and gives us so much hope.

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Altostrata

schizor, I hope everyone on this site reads your wonderful post. Thank you.

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dalsaan

Schizor,

 

Im delighted you are feeling so good in the world.   Your updates make a useful contribution.  I often refer people who feel they are doomed to a life time of damage to your thread.  You are an inspiration

 

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Petunia

338212.gif  Yay!

 

...and thank you for sharing the news of your recovery.

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lionofJuda

I am happy for you , I was  put also on many drugs including zyprexa

recovering hasnt been easy, two days ago I felt again fear and sadness

my pssd still is very bad, but improving somehow  good for you man

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schizor

My answer to one question a member has asked me

Question goes like this
"whether music sounded flat for you during the months of withdrawal. Did it go away eventually? How much time did it take? "

My answer is: 

Yes it sounded flat during the months of withdrawal. There's nothing you can do about it, only time will give you back the nice feeling music gives you.
It absolutely got away 120 %.
Most of the time now Im listening to music on my phone and I feel great.

Dont think about how much time is left, stay strong. Practice patience and know that one day music will sound even better then it sounded before.

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AliG

 This is  inspirational!  I'm very happy for you and thank you for updating a positive outcome.  I'm sure it will help many here.

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Martina23

Schizor, I hope you are right and that it is valid for everyone.

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bluebalu86

Oh schizor, I cannot express how happy I am for you and how much hope your story gives me.

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Hopefull

What fantastic news. I am so happy and inspired to know that you can recover from wd. It is great to know that you are doing well. There is light at the end of the tunnel.

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schizor

Hey guys, I dont have time to write my recovery story at this moment but I'll be happy to answer your question if you have any regarding my recovery.
Im feeling wonderful right now because I spend 30 minutes meditating usually in the morning and I do other activities as well. Im spending a lot of time in study and my mind and concentration are in a very good level also.

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Martina23

That is so great Schizor, you dont know how much I envy you!

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schizor

Why do you envy me when it is only a matter of time when you recover also? Each person is different and someone may recover slower and other faster in my opinion. It is the journey of recovery which can be actually beneficial to our mind as it becomes stronger and realizes how valuable emotions are to existing and interacting with other individuals and life itself.

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flowstate1310

This thread is inspiring. I was Olanzapine for four week beginning with 7.5, then 5 and now 2.5. I will go off it tomorrow and begin this process. I feel you schizor the emotional dulling/zombie-like feel is brutal. I'm hoping to make a full recovery aswell.

 

Ben

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Neonic9

I was on Olanzapine for 39 days with the dosage brought to 20mg for the last half of the days. I'm afraid I'm gone for good, and am looking for support. I didn't suffer insomnia or any other symptoms, just the loss of my old self. I went off cold turkey. 

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schizor

It was very very hard for me in the beginning, Ben but maybe it was because I stopped cold turkey. I had an overwhelming desire for self-harm and sometimes I punched myself in the head, what was helping in keeping me distracted was playing video games and focusing on something and not having to think about the situation in which I was in, I think having some sort of distraction is what helped me a lot in the difficult times.

I also went off cold turkey, Neonic and I believe I was on 20mg also when I was in a mental hospital. Don't worry your old self will come back with full force. Have patience. If you believe you have a serious mental disease then I think talking to your psychiatrist and switching to different medication is the appropriate action. But if you took them for depression or any other imaginary problem which psychiatry created, then by stopping them I think you're on the right path, your old self will come back and it will be better. Try focusing on something to keep yourself distracted from the current reality for time will pass and soon your  reality will start changing for the better and it will continue until you are able to reach your self again.

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Martina23

Schizor, your thread helps me very much to believe that the healing is possible.

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Neonic9

It was very very hard for me in the beginning, Ben but maybe it was because I stopped cold turkey. I had an overwhelming desire for self-harm and sometimes I punched myself in the head, what was helping in keeping me distracted was playing video games and focusing on something and not having to think about the situation in which I was in, I think having some sort of distraction is what helped me a lot in the difficult times.

 

I also went off cold turkey, Neonic and I believe I was on 20mg also when I was in a mental hospital. Don't worry your old self will come back with full force. Have patience. If you believe you have a serious mental disease then I think talking to your psychiatrist and switching to different medication is the appropriate action. But if you took them for depression or any other imaginary problem which psychiatry created, then by stopping them I think you're on the right path, your old self will come back and it will be better. Try focusing on something to keep yourself distracted from the current reality for time will pass and soon your  reality will start changing for the better and it will continue until you are able to reach your self again.

Thank you so much, schizor, you're like an angel who has come just at the right time for me.

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Neonic9

I feel unable to engage or have any thoughts opinions feelings towards things. Conversations feel impossible. Did you experience this? This is easily the worst thing that has ever happened to me. This is death.

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schizor

Yes I did, you can go to the previous pages in this thread and check for yourself, this is not permanent and will little by little fade away as your thoughts and feelings towards things return. Conversations felt impossible for me also and now I am very confident and feel comfortable in talking and Im also enjoying it so have patience

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ang

So pleased for you schizor.

 

In the first depths of WD, some days I could not listen to music, I needed silence. Even now, loud noises stress me.....In the beginning....  All I could do was play the simplest games on the computer, but anything, anything to help me focus on something...  I had to get out of bed in the morning, as the waves of fear would hit me.   So I just sat at computer in dressing gown, and played silly computer games.....

 

I have upgraded to chess!!!!!!!!!!!  Still hopeless at it, but my brain must be focussing now.    After 6 months, I can now listen to music.  Some weeks I would watch tv all day, other weeks could not stand the television.  Some mornings I could make a coffee, other mornings I could not even do that.

 

Yes, anything, on-line games, anything, relaxation videos, anything, just so we can survive..  pamper yourself, and just wait.....  which you have done...

So great to hear you are doing so well.

 

OH what I really wanted to say is dont worry about your weight, it will disappear.. I was also very fat, and I am naturally a skinny person.........  Some days I didnt eat, and I didnt worry,  I always ate enough..........  now I am fitting into clothes I had eight years ago............... the drugs upset the gut, 90% of serotonin receptors are in the gut, these tablets upset the balance, so even if you eat the same, on the tablets you get fat.....   off the tablets, given time, your gut recovers,    you will naturally go back to your pre drug size......  and I dont workout, I am too exhausted at present to exercise.

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Neonic9

Yes I did, you can go to the previous pages in this thread and check for yourself, this is not permanent and will little by little fade away as your thoughts and feelings towards things return. Conversations felt impossible for me also and now I am very confident and feel comfortable in talking and Im also enjoying it so have patience

Thanks.

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Malf

Hi Schizor, congratulations on your recovery. I’m suffering from emotion loss and sudden onset of stupidity since not long after coming off Zyprexa. I’d been on it for just over a month and I suppose you could say I cold turkeyed. I’ve been seeing improvements in my sense of wellbeing over the last six months but I’ve got a long way to go. Although I’m not totally sure if we’re in the same boat (I personally can’t face videogames anymore) I’m going to ask you a few questions and I’d be grateful if you could answer them. They’re related to your lifestyle leading up to your recovery.

  1. Did you have a daily routine?
  2. When did you get up and go to bed?
  3. Did you drink coffee/tea? Any coke/pepsi/red wine or other caffeine containing products?
  4. How much per day? How long before bed?
  5. Did you smoke?
  6. What was you diet like? Any different kinds of foods with strange ingredients? (your bio says your from Bulgaria) How much fruit and veg? What kinds? Nuts? What kinds?
  7. Did you take a screen break before bed?
  8. Any exercise?
  9. Any supplements? How much?
  10. If you led a healthy lifestyle with good sleep, how long was this for before improvements were noted?

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Redmanone

Hey schizor, im assuming you took the pill form of zyprexa. I was injected with a loading dose and an initiation dose of invega totaling up to about 390mg. I was wondering if you or anyone else on this site new how long it usually takes to recover from a depot shot of my type. Im three months out today and seeing minimum improvements. Im sexually impotent and have major anhedonia. Its really hard with the boredom and lack of emotions. I am glad for your recovery which gives me hope that i will also recover. Any response and advice will be greatly appreciated.

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schizor

Hi Malf,in my opinion you are focusing too much on the problem itself, I used to do this also until I learned to distract myself from it. Im going to try to answer your questions as best as I could but before that I want to say that the most important thing for me in the recovery was giving myself rest and not forcing myself to do things. Do whatever you feel like doing, if its nothing that you want then do nothing and even if its thinking about how badly your brain has been damaged then think about it just let yourself experience and dont force yourself, desire to live will come by itself naturally I did not force myself to feel, instead I have let myself not to feel. If possible go on a vacation by yourself and spend some time alone, you may develop mental strength which could be useful when you recover.

 

 

1. No, I did not. There was no desire for a daily routine

2.At one time I had very little sleep, went to bed at 1-2 am and got up at at 5-6 am, little by little my sleeping hours increase and now I go to bed at 11 pm and get up at 6-7 am. 
3.I did drink coffe but not much,the other products - no.

4.usually only in the morning and very little short coffe
5.I had never smoked
6.nothing special, I did not have a diet and I ate whatever i felt like burgers and such
7.I dont know the definition of screen break, sorry not my native language.
8.None at all, until I started feeling better I began exercising and doing sports but it was only after i have felt improvement and desire to do it.
9. Members here suggested some supplements but I have only took them for a very short period of time and then I had stopped because didnt see any point of it. I think it was fish oil, dont really remember how much.
10.I did not led a healthy lifestyle. I got so fat that walking up and down the stairs got me tired, lol.


Hello, Redmanone I believe it will take more time to recover from the injection shot but I dont know how much more because I only have experienced the effects of swallowing pills. Maybe some other members here have so its a good idea for you to share your story by making your own topic and others who had recovered from depot shot would answer your question

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Redmanone

Thanks schizor. I'll try to make my own topic if i figure it out lol. I did however get a blood plasma level test done on the invega. The results came back positive today. I have a low amount in me, according to the doctors. But i still think that it is enough to be causing anhedonia and sexual impotency. I also talked to another person on a different forum who was given the same amount as me and is suffering as I am. Thanks for the advice though.

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Malf

Thanks for that, I think if anything stands out from your answers it's that you would have been getting good quality sleep and that's got to be good for recovery.

A screen break is having time between staring at a bright computer screen and going to bed, which can interfere with melatonin production, which is important for sleep quality.

I'll try and chill out lol!

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Redmanone

Hey schizor i have one more question. Did you have any problems sexually while withdrawing? I can get erections but its like theres no feeling down there at all. Theres no sensation like there used to be... Im scared man. If so how long did this last before you started to notice improvements. So far im 3 months out without any improvements that i can tell.

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Neonic9

I'm all better now. I've been better since about 12 June or 20 June. 

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eiledon20

What an ispiring story. I hope to survive this thing....

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eiledon20

Oh my God, cold turkeying took schizor about a year to recover? and he has no underlying sickness I think?

 

Will tapering off SNRI/SSRI smoothen it out?

 

Currently on 1/2 pristiq and will further cut. Where can I find success stories of this beside that of mogfish?

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Redmanone

Eilidon20, schizor was recovering from an antipsychotic. Totally different ballpark than an SSRI. I know because ive successfully tapered many times from SSRIs but am having difficulty recovering from invega, a potent antipsychotic.

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eiledon20

thank you for clearing it up remamone

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Iamfine

This is a good story. Timely for me too as I have two antipsychotics to come off.

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bluebalu86

schizor, your story gives me hope, thank you for that, I have a "low-dose" antipsychotic to taper

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Malf

Schizor,

 

Just wanted to say I'm feeling much better now. Completely back to normal following eating magnesium rich foods and re-introducing fish into my diet. Thanks a lot.

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