Songbird: a little about me

[Carmie]

On 5/5/2018 at 1:13 PM, Songbird said:

Hi Carmie, thanks for asking!  I recently made another drop and am really feeling it.  Nothing major, just mild anxiety, down moods, feeling tearful, harder to get to sleep, etc.  Tapering citalopram has been easier than tapering paroxetine so far, but that still doesn't make it a picnic.  I've just realised my signature has the wrong date, my last drop was April not March!

 

I am thinking that tapering the rest of the way using a scale is going to be problematic.  The smallest drop I can measure is 0.2mg, and the scale jumps around too much for me to feel very confident that I've got the right doses.  I think I'll have to look into getting liquid again like I did with paroxetine.  It's expensive but a lot easier.  I have seen that some people make their own liquids, but to me that doesn't seem any easier than weighing.  If I was going to make my own liquid, I would buy a proper medical suspension syrup, so I may as well just pay the compounding pharmacy to do the whole thing.  I'm also considering a switch to twice daily dosing, which I also did last time.  I'll have to think carefully about how I'm going to make these two changes.

 

Hi Songbird, 

 

It’s not fun every time we make a drop, is it? I’m glad your symptoms aren’t too severe though. 

 

I hope the changes to the water titration work well for you. I’ve been doing it for ages but I make my own liquids. They’re not in a suspension formula and it’s always worked for me. I always come out in a window eventually at the end of each taper.

 

I have been crushing a 25mg tablet of seroquel in 20ml of water but I’m thinking of doing a micro taper next. I got a compounding script of 7.5mg and will put that in 300ml of water.

 

The compounding capsules are expensive too but because because I’ve managed to taper the 25mg tablet to 7.5mg I thought I’d get 7.5mg capsules and then add lots more water. Math is fun, isn’t it?😄

 

All the best with your water titration 

 

Sending hugs🤗

[Songbird]

In the past few days I've started to feel a lot better, w/d effects are easing off.  Now my sister has called me to tell me our mother is very unwell and may not live much longer.  She smoked all her life and ruined her lungs, and is now very frail.  I had a very busy week lined up, and now I have to cancel lots of stuff, book flights and rental cars and so on, so I can rush down to see her.  She is in her late 70s, and had health problems for a while, so I guess it is not completely unexpected, but it still has thrown me for a bit of a loop.  I haven't been in this situation before, I don't really know how to process it.  My guess is I'm going to cry a lot.

[Carmie]

13 minutes ago, Songbird said:

In the past few days I've started to feel a lot better, w/d effects are easing off.  Now my sister has called me to tell me our mother is very unwell and may not live much longer.  She smoked all her life and ruined her lungs, and is now very frail.  I had a very busy week lined up, and now I have to cancel lots of stuff, book flights and rental cars and so on, so I can rush down to see her.  She is in her late 70s, and had health problems for a while, so I guess it is not completely unexpected, but it still has thrown me for a bit of a loop.  I haven't been in this situation before, I don't really know how to process it.  My guess is I'm going to cry a lot.

 

Hi Songbird, 

 

Yes, so many things can throw us off kilter in this life and are extremely hard to process. I’m sad to hear your mum is unwell. That would be so hard for you to deal with, plus travelling when you’re not well yourself. It’s good to hear though that the withdrawals are a lot better. 

 

When you are with your mum make sure you get some alone time too so you can process and have time to get your equilibrium back too. 

 

No doubt there will be tears, I’m very sad for you. I’ve shed many a tear in my life too, I don’t always feel better afterwards but I guess it’s our body’s way of dealing with pain. 

 

Thinking of you and sending hugs 🤗

 

 

[Songbird]

Thank you, Carmie.

[brassmonkey]

If you haven't seen her for a while, then the initial shock could be very upsetting. that's what happened with my father and myself.  I was able to see him for about fifteen minutes and then needed to retreat to the hallway to "let it all out".  After the initial shock it will get a bit easier as some acceptance kicks in and you go into "strong mode".  As Carmine pointed out it is very important to take breaks and catch your breath.  Unless there are important things that need to be done, arrangements for care facilities and the like, this is a time where WD brain fog can be your friend. This is a time of pure shock and grief, work with that and don't even think about WD and how this will affect it.  There's a good chance it won't.

[Songbird]

Thank you, brassmonkey.

[Rosetta]

I'm sorry to hear this, Songbird.  Wishing you strength.  I've been there with the person was my true mother.  

Peace, Rosetta

[grandmaD]

On 3/20/2018 at 10:02 PM, Songbird said:

My scale did not have this fluctuation problem until recently - they were working fine before.  I tried weighing with the calibration weight on, but it didn't help, if anything it seemed to make it slightly worse.  I still have my old scale somewhere, I might dig that out and try it for comparison.

 

How did you go with your old scales?  You will probably find they won't weight exactly the same as the other ones.  Its just important they are reliable and weigh the same each time.  I try and weigh my bit of pill 2 or 3 times.  Very frustrating and time consuming, I know!

 

I once had compound chemist who advertised it "no extra cost" but when I got them, instead of costing $30 a month it was $90.  I noticed some of the capsules were quite full whiled others were half full!!  I panicked and didn't trust them after that and because of the high cost went back to weighing myself.

 

I noticed a previous post about lemon balm and your comment about herbal teas being too weak to work, so I may have forgot to mention that my lemon balm is fresh, from my garden. 

[grandmaD]

On 5/13/2018 at 5:53 PM, Songbird said:

In the past few days I've started to feel a lot better, w/d effects are easing off.  Now my sister has called me to tell me our mother is very unwell and may not live much longer.  She smoked all her life and ruined her lungs, and is now very frail.  I had a very busy week lined up, and now I have to cancel lots of stuff, book flights and rental cars and so on, so I can rush down to see her.  She is in her late 70s, and had health problems for a while, so I guess it is not completely unexpected, but it still has thrown me for a bit of a loop.  I haven't been in this situation before, I don't really know how to process it.  My guess is I'm going to cry a lot.

How are you doing?   Have you been to see your mum?  I found to my surprise with both my parents at the end that I coped very well.  It was beyond all understanding, in fact seemed so out of character, felt supernatural!  I did things that went way beyond what I was normally able to cope with.  One of the things I think was that because I was still numb from the meds that it didn't affect me emotionally, so I didn't cry much at all (previous to this never cried at all).  You might find you cope much better also than you expect, I sure hope so!  Let us know how you go.

[Songbird]

My mum was finding it hard to move - just getting out of bed to go to the bathroom was a mammoth effort - and feeling very distraught about it.  I have found her a motorised wheelchair so she is now able to drive herself around the house, which has cheered her up a lot.

 

The last drop was pretty rough but I'm now feeling pretty stable again.  I'm going to investigate getting liquid made again, as I don't feel confident about proceeding further using the scale.  I also want to switch to twice daily dosing.  Once I have the liquid, I'll work out a plan to switch over gradually.

[Carmie]

21 hours ago, Songbird said:

My mum was finding it hard to move - just getting out of bed to go to the bathroom was a mammoth effort - and feeling very distraught about it.  I have found her a motorised wheelchair so she is now able to drive herself around the house, which has cheered her up a lot.

 

The last drop was pretty rough but I'm now feeling pretty stable again.  I'm going to investigate getting liquid made again, as I don't feel confident about proceeding further using the scale.  I also want to switch to twice daily dosing.  Once I have the liquid, I'll work out a plan to switch over gradually.

 

Hi Songbird, 

 

I’m glad your mum is enjoying her motorised scooter. It’s good to be mobile. She must appreciate all you do for her. It’s hard to see loved ones struggle, isn’t it?

 

Liquid titration is pretty good. I’ve been doing it for ages, I make up my own. I’ve never used scales. They must be very delicate to measure such tiny amounts. 

 

Im glad you’re feeling stable again. We know withdrawals always hit us when we taper but then there is always the hope of the next window. 

 

Hope all all goes well with your changeover from scales to liquid titration.

 

Sending hugs🤗🤗

[Carmie]

On 3/12/2015 at 6:53 PM, Songbird said:

Well, after struggling with depression, mood swings and tearfulness most of this year so far, I actually woke up yesterday in a good mood, which felt very unusual.  Maybe I will stabilise soon, that would be nice.  I've held my dose at 3.4mg all year waiting to stabilise.  I actually felt really happy for a while yesterday morning.  My mood in general has been better recently.  Still have some mild anxiety on waking most mornings - physical anxiety feeling plus sometimes the feelings of dread, especially if I have stuff I have to do that day.  Why can't I just win Lotto and live a life of leisure, I think that would suit me quite well.  I am working a little part-time doing gymnastics coaching.  It isn't enough to pay all the bills but I enjoy it a lot.  I seem to get tired very quickly these days, and wonder how I ever managed a full-time job five days a week.

 

Hi Songbird, 

 

Thanks for dropping by on my thread. 

 

Sorry you’ve had such a stressful year. Good for you though for holding your dose for as long as you have to. I’m the same, not rushing either and having breaks between tapering. 

 

Hope you’re having fun again making music. It’s sooo important to continue to do the things we love, even when we are too numb to enjoy them. I can’t play any instruments and my singing sounds like a dying walrus but I love music. I go to concerts all the time. Just because I have a terrible voice it doesn’t stop me singing along to music. Close your ears everyone👂😂

 

I had friends over this week n we cranked up the music n “sang” and danced around the loungeroom. Was fun! 

 

Have a happy day Songbird☀️☀️☀️☀️

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Songbird]

Hi Carmie, thanks for the good wishes.  (BTW, you quoted one of my posts from 2015!)

 

I am actually very grumpy today.  I was still trying to get rid of my cold and can't believe it, I have caught another cold!  I'm sick and tired of feeling sick and tired all the time.

 

On top of that, I am very grumpy because I contacted the compounding company who used to make my paroxetine liquid to ask them about making a citalopram liquid for me and they have replied that they won't do it because they "have concerns about its stability".  I found on google that you can get commercial Celexa liquid in the US and even found out all the ingredients, so I am a bit baffled by their reply.  It's also come as a bit of a shock as I expected it would be no problem for them since they've done it before.  So it looks like I now have two options - look around for a compounding pharmacist who can make liquid for me, or make my own liquid.  I've seen posts here where people have successfully made their own liquid but I'm not too keen on the idea myself.  More research needed.

[Carmie]

3 minutes ago, Songbird said:

Hi Carmie, thanks for the good wishes.  (BTW, you quoted one of my posts from 2015!)

 

I am actually very grumpy today.  I was still trying to get rid of my cold and can't believe it, I have caught another cold!  I'm sick and tired of feeling sick and tired all the time.

 

On top of that, I am very grumpy because I contacted the compounding company who used to make my paroxetine liquid to ask them about making a citalopram liquid for me and they have replied that they won't do it because they "have concerns about its stability".  I found on google that you can get commercial Celexa liquid in the US and even found out all the ingredients, so I am a bit baffled by their reply.  It's also come as a bit of a shock as I expected it would be no problem for them since they've done it before.  So it looks like I now have two options - look around for a compounding pharmacist who can make liquid for me, or make my own liquid.  I've seen posts here where people have successfully made their own liquid but I'm not too keen on the idea myself.  More research needed.

 

Hi again Songbird, 

 

I noticed after I posted that I quoted an old post but was still interested to learn you love to make music. 

 

I was really braindead when I first started reading people’s posts today but picked up a little afterwards. 

 

Im sorry you’ve had one cold after another. With CFS I always feel like I have a flu, minus the coughing and runny nose. I was staying with a friend this weekend n she had a virus too, she actually almost lost her voice. I didn’t catch it though. Yay! 

 

At the first sign of anything I always hit the olive leaf. It doesn’t affect my withdrawals.

 

Im sorry the compounding pharmacists have been so slack. I’ve been doing water titration for a long time now, crushing my 25mg tablet. When I taper next I will be using a 7.5mg compounded capsule n will mix that with 300ml of water. 

 

You don’t sound too fussed on making your own liquid so I hope you find a pharmacist that can help. 

 

Hope your grumpiness settles soon, there’s just so much to think about when tapering, isn’t there? It always takes me such a long time to figure out the math. I’m hopeless at math. Give me a good book any day. 

 

Let me know if you find another compounding pharmacist. 

 

Sending hugs🤗🤗🤗🤗

 

 

[Ssriwarrior]

Hey there

 

sorry to hear about your mom.  It sounds like you handled the situation with grace.

 

i know the liquid thing is frustrating; but I do think there has to be another compounding pharmacy that can do it.  Where I live, one pharmacy said they couldn’t do it but eventually found one that could if they put label on it that said it was for a dog.  I know that is really weird, not even sure if that is legal? But somehow it worked.  I agree that compounding feels safer than making your own for where you are at.

[Songbird]

I am nearly over the second cold and feeling a lot better.  I've just been holding at current dose of 4.2mg. 

 

My main symptoms currently are trouble getting to sleep and palpitations.  I've been taking melatonin and valerian and listening to my holosync CD, and that all helps me get to sleep.  Once I'm asleep I sleep well, and if I wake in the night I fall asleep again, it's just falling asleep to begin with that is difficult.  I think a lot of this is down to the palpitations.  I'm having skipped beats, and sometimes it feels like there's a hamster or something wriggling around in my chest. 

 

I had been taking magnesium forte for the palps, which worked for a while but then they came back.  I've just switched to mega magnesium powder which also contains taurine and potassium, so will see how that goes.  I'm also keen to try lemon balm - must get onto that. 

 

I'm just guessing these palps are PVCs and harmless, but I guess I should get it checked out just in case.  I suppose I should go and get this Holter monitor test done some time.  I just don't want to end up with another med to take.

 

Regarding the liquid, I am now seriously considering trying to make my own liquid.  I think I would probably go for making a suspension using Oraplus.  Since I'm holding on my current dose I don't need to do this just yet, but it has been on my mind.

 

 

 

 

 

[Rosetta]

Hi, Songbird.  You seem to be doing well, and I'm glad to see that.  Thank you for your comments on my thread.  I understsnd that making a liquid sounds scary.  Many do it and do well with it though.   I hope you can if you need to.  It is wonderful that your dose is so low.  

All my best, Rosetta

[Carmie]

Hi Songbird, 

 

Are you getting enough sleep still? It’s good once you fall asleep you sleep well and go back to sleep when you wake up. 

 

Im glad the melatonin helps you. Quite a few people seem to find it beneficial. I’m sleeping as the seroquel puts me to sleep but I will end up with rebound insomnia. Once I forgot to take the seroquel and I didn’t sleep one minute the whole night. 

 

Speaking of sleep its beddy byes for me, Zzzzzz💚

[Songbird]

I just posted in the vitamin B12 topic and I'm repeating it here:

 

I've been feeling pretty terrible most of this year, with worsening symptoms that I put down to withdrawal, and then later to having three colds in a row.  Severe fatigue, brain fog, difficulty focusing, memory problems, constipation, mild physical anxiety, palpitations & skipped heartbeats.  Basically I felt exhausted all the time, with a feeling like a large mouse was wriggling around in my chest.  At times I felt faint or dizzy, or short of breath.  My immunity was obviously terrible, catching cold after cold. 

 

I somehow managed to work, but when not working, I crashed out on my bed. Sometimes I couldn't even find the energy to read a book or watch TV.  Sometimes I was able to nap, but other times I just lay there, too exhausted to do anything.  Some days, pretty much all I managed to do in a day was drag myself out of bed, have a shower and get dressed (then lie back down on my bed because doing all that exhausted me).  

 

I started to suspect vitamin B12 deficiency - Dr. Google showed me symptoms that matched mine - and so I went to my GP asking to be tested.  He sent me for a bunch of the usual blood tests, which all came back showing in normal range!  My GP said that some people who test normal feel better with a vitamin B12 injection.  I was tossing up whether to get the injection (as a steroid injection derailed my paroxetine taper in 2016, so I was wary of any injections) but in the end I decided to go ahead and try it.  Within a few hours I felt more energy and my head felt clearer.

 

It's been two weeks since the injection.  I feel that my fatigue has improved about 60%, brain fog and focus about 70%, anxiety about 90%, palpitations about 95%.  I've been waking up in the morning without morning anxiety.  I've been waking up before my alarm sometimes, and can get up out of bed with a lot less difficulty. 

 

Even though my test result showed a "normal" level of vitamin B12, my response to the injection suggests I may have had a deficiency.  I suspect the test might be measuring inactive forms of vitamin B12 giving a false picture.  I'm now considering a repeat injection, or adding a sublingual supplement.

 

[Rosetta]

So happy that you are feeling better!  Maybe I should try sublingual.

[Carmie]

Hi Songbird, 

 

Just wondering how you’re doing💚

[Songbird]

Thanks for checking on me, Carmie!  I'm doing okay right now, fairly stable, just a few mild symptoms.  I have a lot of work on, which is very tiring, but I'm not feeling as exhausted as before the B12 injection so I'm managing okay.  I do get rather fed up with feeling tired most of the time.

 

I'm wanting to switch from pills to liquid, but the compounding company I used for paroxetine liquid now won't make me citalopram liquid.  So I've decided to have a go at making the liquid myself - something I have never done before, so I'm very nervous about it.  Citalopram is supposed to be water-soluble, but I've decided to use a suspending vehicle, so have ordered some Oraplus from ebay.  It should help to make the doses even, and it contains preservative so I should be able to keep the citalopram liquid in the fridge for a week or two.  I am concerned about switching over from pills, so will come up with a plan to switch a little bit at a time.  It means I'll be on the same dose (well, hopefully the same dose) for quite a while as I switch over.

[Poulesportive]

Hi Songbird. I am just checking in to see if that B12 shot is having a lasting effect in improving your anxiety symptoms? I have found a doctor in my area who offers "nutrient therapy" and who is probably expensive - but the idea that a vitamin or mineral supplement could improve anxiety symptoms is a very powerful one.

 

I'd love to know more about your experience with the B12. Hope you're feeling well today. 

[DMV64]

Hi Songbird!

I am also interested in your experience with the B12. Let us know how you are doing!

[Carmie]

On 9/10/2018 at 9:50 AM, Songbird said:

Thanks for checking on me, Carmie!  I'm doing okay right now, fairly stable, just a few mild symptoms.  I have a lot of work on, which is very tiring, but I'm not feeling as exhausted as before the B12 injection so I'm managing okay.  I do get rather fed up with feeling tired most of the time.

 

I'm wanting to switch from pills to liquid, but the compounding company I used for paroxetine liquid now won't make me citalopram liquid.  So I've decided to have a go at making the liquid myself - something I have never done before, so I'm very nervous about it.  Citalopram is supposed to be water-soluble, but I've decided to use a suspending vehicle, so have ordered some Oraplus from ebay.  It should help to make the doses even, and it contains preservative so I should be able to keep the citalopram liquid in the fridge for a week or two.  I am concerned about switching over from pills, so will come up with a plan to switch a little bit at a time.  It means I'll be on the same dose (well, hopefully the same dose) for quite a while as I switch over.

 

Hi Songbird, 

 

I was so glad to hear that you’re fairly stable now.

 

I hope all goes well with your liquid titration, I’ve been doing it for years. I remember when I first changed to liquid I used some of the tablet and some of the liquid. I didn’t know at the time that was the way to do it, it was just easy that way. 

 

Wishing you all the best with your tapering. Keep us updated. 

 

Sending hugs🤗

 

 

[ladybug]

Songbird, that is very interesting about the B12 as I had mine tested recently too. My number was 391 which is technically normal but apparently anything under 400 can still cause issues in some people. I'm always afraid to take B12 as I know it can be activating. So it didn't raise your anxiety at all? That's pretty great!

[Songbird]

Hi Ladybug.  Thankfully, I didn't find the B12 injection too activating - I ended up having more energy but less anxiety.  I would like to get a repeat injection soon.  In the meantime I've been taking sublingual supplements.

 

I have made up some citalopram liquid and started taking a small part of my dose in liquid form p.m.  It's been ten days and so far things have been pretty much okay.  I have been having more of those stabbing joint pains.  In the past it has mainly been mild to moderate pains in my left foot and toes, but yesterday I got some quite severe sharp stabbing pains in my elbow, then later on my knee and lower spine, and then this morning in my left hand.  As symptoms go, this is not a big deal.  It comes and goes and usually doesn't last more than an hour or two, and I don't get worried or anxious about it.

[ladybug]

That's very intriguing! I might consider getting one myself and see how it goes. Are you able to tolerate caffeine?

[Songbird]

I had a big fight with my scale today, weighing the same pill pieces several times and getting different numbers - aargh!!!

 

I did ten days of 3.5mg pill piece a.m. and 0.5mg liquid p.m.

Then ten days of 3.0mg pill a.m. and 1.0mg liquid p.m.  So far, so good.

Tomorrow I'll start 2.5mg pill a.m. and 1.5mg liquid p.m. for ten days.

 

My plan is to then go to 2.0mg pill a.m. and 2.0mg liquid p.m., and then eventually switch the 2.0mg pill to 2.0mg liquid.  I think it's too hard to accurately weigh pill pieces less than 2.0mg (about 0.013 grams), it was hard enough trying to get 2.5mg pieces today.

 

Making the liquid has been easier than I thought it would be.  I bought some Oraplus on ebay, a tiny mortar and pestle and tiny glass bottles on TradeMe,  some tiny funnels and syringes at the mall, and distilled water from the supermarket.  I don't know how accurate it is, but it's probably no worse than the scale.

 

Because of my palpitations a while back, my GP had sent in for me to get a holter monitor test done.  It's the public health system, so the appointment took a while to come through, and then I had to reschedule my appointment because of being too busy at work.  Last week I finally went in to get the test done.  My palpitations had almost disappeared by then, so of course nothing happened during the 48 hours, which is annoying as I wanted to find out what was going on with my heart when it was happening.  Carrying the monitor around wasn't a problem, but where the electrodes were attached to my skin was itchy as hell the whole time.  After getting them taken off, my skin stayed red and angry for a couple of days.

 

Lately I've been having a lot of fatigue again.  My circadian rhythm is all out of kilter, sometimes I fall asleep easily, some nights I can't sleep for hours.  Sometimes I sleep during the day at odd times because I'm so exhausted.  It's frustrating because there's so much I want to do but I'm too tired to do much.  I'm going to call my GP tomorrow and see whether I can get another B12 injection. 

 

The good news is, my mood has mostly been good, and also no anxiety.  It's school holidays now so I've had some time to relax and unwind after an extremely busy term.

 

 

[Carmie]

Hi Songbird, 

 

Im glad you’re doing okay with the liquid n I wish you all the best with your continued tapering.

 

I was glad to hear that your moods are good too n you have no anxiety. Thank you for sharing. You are an inspiration to everyone on here.

 

Sending hugs 🤗

[Songbird]

Thanks, Carmie!  Your positive attitude is an inspiration to all of us.

[TreeElf]

Wow @Songbird, just read your thread - you've been through a hell of a long journey! So much strength and courage, not to mention patience. Thank you for the giving me and others hope.

 

I can relate to the PMS symptoms a lot - I've noticed that w/d coincides badly with the week before a period, and often a few days in the middle of a cycle. So the easier days are the ones just after it starts. I was on the contraceptive pill for years, I believe it triggered much of my original illness to extremes, and it screwed with me a lot hormonally. I've been off it for a couple of years but am often concerned the length of time being so imbalanced (taking it constantly at times) contributed greatly to my extreme fluctuations in mood.

 

Really glad to hear you're  stabilizing overall. Now I can see what a miracle it is to even get to that after being in such dark places, and I look forward to your success story which I've a feeling won't be too far off. x

 

 

[Songbird]

I've just completed the switch from pills once per day to liquid twice per day.  My plan was for 10 days per change, but I held longer at one point.

3.5 mg pill a.m. & 0.5 mg liquid p.m. for 11 days

3.0 mg pill a.m. & 1.0 mg liquid p.m. for 10 days

2.5 mg pill a.m. & 1.5 mg liquid p.m. for 16 days

2.0 mg pill a.m. & 2.0 mg liquid p.m. for 11 days

2.0 mg liquid a.m. & 2.0 mg liquid p.m. from today.

 

I switched the a.m. dose to liquid in one go because even weighing 2.0 mg pieces was difficult, so I didn't think I'd be able to weigh smaller pieces accurately.

 

I've remained pretty stable through the process, although my system did notice the changes, having a few mild withdrawal symptoms.  It will be interesting to see how much it notices the switch from pill to liquid for the a.m. dose. (crossing my fingers it goes okay).

[Songbird]

So far so good on the liquid switch, I haven't noticed anything in particular.  I think it may have been more the switch to twice daily dosing that my system noticed.  I've been at 4mg for the past 3 months, the past 2 months doing the switch to liquid twice a day.  I feel like it might be time to begin tapering again, so I'm thinking about doing a drop a couple of days from now. 

[Carmie]

1 minute ago, Songbird said:

So far so good on the liquid switch, I haven't noticed anything in particular.  I think it may have been more the switch to twice daily dosing that my system noticed.  I've been at 4mg for the past 3 months, the past 2 months doing the switch to liquid twice a day.  I feel like it might be time to begin tapering again, so I'm thinking about doing a drop a couple of days from now. 

 

Hi Songbird, 

 

I’ve been wondering how you’ve been doing, thanks for posting. So great the liquid change hasn’t affected you. You’re doing great getting down to 4mg! You’re an inspiration.

 

Wishing you all the best with your continued tapering💚

 

 

[Songbird]

Thanks for the encouragement, Carmie!  I was nervous about making my own liquid, but it has turned out to be easier than I thought it would be.  I guess it's fear of the unfamiliar.