☼ Junglechicken

[Scorpio]

Hi jc

im sorry you are going through such a rotten time with all these symptoms but it could well just be you are completely run down and mouth ulcers etc often happen during that time.  Maybe the diet is too stringent for your system at the moment and hopefully the scoop of ice cream has helped.

hugs

ann

[Junglechicken]

3 minutes ago, Scorpio said:

Hi jc

im sorry you are going through such a rotten time with all these symptoms but it could well just be you are completely run down and mouth ulcers etc often happen during that time.  Maybe the diet is too stringent for your system at the moment and hopefully the scoop of ice cream has helped.

hugs

ann

 

Hi Ann,

 

Yes, it could be, and possibly WD makes any sensations / pain VERY painful.

 

The ice cream was pure nectar!

 

Thank you for pointing out the "obvious", I need to hear it.

 

Hugs,

JC

[Junglechicken]

The cuckoo has been announcing Spring is here!! Errr, no not me, although I may as well be cuckoo.

 

Wonderful that those birds are still around................

 

Mouth feels a bit better today, just hoping the inflammation under the tongue and the "thing" on roof of mouth were caused by eating seeds and almonds.

[Junglechicken]

Update:

 

Pain in roof of mouth has gone.....still have "inflammation" under tongue.  However, pain has subsided there as well.

 

Do have loss of appetite and I get horrendous cravings for sweet stuff or fish and chips - carbs and fat.

 

Mood swings continue, today am ok, but the HA is ALWAYS there.

[Junglechicken]

Feeling fatigued......must be WD??

 

Going to the dentist later - keep your fingers crossed all A-ok.

[Scorpio]

Hi jc

good luck. Fingers crossed it’s a clean bill of health and as you say just the w/d playing it’s horrible  game again. 

Hugs

[Junglechicken]

Just now, Scorpio said:

Hi jc

good luck. Fingers crossed it’s a clean bill of health and as you say just the w/d playing it’s horrible  game again. 

Hugs

 

Thanks Scorpio, oh heck, so do I 🤔

 

Hugs

[Junglechicken]

 

Lots of good articles around:

 

http://www.vogue.co.uk/article/antidepressants-side-effects-withdrawal-symptoms

[Frogie]

4 hours ago, Junglechicken said:

Feeling fatigued......must be WD??

 

Going to the dentist later - keep your fingers crossed all A-ok.

You will be fine.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Junglechicken]

1 hour ago, Frogie said:

You will be fine.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

 

Thank you Frogie,

 

Yes, my mouth is A-ok...................totally healthy.  NO oral thrush.

 

Can put that one to bed.

 

TC,

JC xxx

[Frogie]

6 minutes ago, Junglechicken said:

 

Thank you Frogie,

 

Yes, my mouth is A-ok...................totally healthy.  NO oral thrush.

 

Can put that one to bed.

 

TC,

JC xxx

I'm glad to hear that.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Junglechicken]

WHY did I go there???

 

WHY did I go to help my mother move???

 

After 3 hrs, she drove the knife right in.

 

I am now back home (without my husband) who stayed.

 

She made a point of saying that a picture that my husband and I gave my parents, not to mention another item given to my parents by me and my husband were going to my brother. He flies to the UK on Monday to help her with her move.

[joy2730]

Families are horrible JC - they can be great but also horrible.  I am really going through the wringer with family trouble and a sort of work trouble which could go any way.  I guess you are feeling gutted.  If your husband has stayed does that mean you two have rowed.  Marriage can be cruel as well  - how are you feeling in yourself.

 

Joy

[Junglechicken]

Just now, joy2730 said:

Families are horrible JC - they can be great but also horrible.  I am really going through the wringer with family trouble and a sort of work trouble which could go any way.  I guess you are feeling gutted.  If your husband has stayed does that mean you two have rowed.  Marriage can be cruel as well  - how are you feeling in yourself.

 

Joy

 

I know Joy, it tears you apart (at least that was what threw me into clinical depression in the first place).

 

No, my husband and I didn't row - he chose to stay behind and help her.

 

I've probably got a speeding ticket!  I was SO angry I put my foot down the whole way (2.5 hrs).

 

The GOOD thing that came out of is, was that I DIDN'T comfort eat, and made myself a healthy anti-candida supper.  I also made some "raspberry thumbprints" (no sugar added).  They were delicious!  That was my F-You to my mother.

 

I did my best, and walked out.  Am happier now that I'm home.  Once again I went there because I genuinely wanted to help, and she shoved the knife in.

 

How are you feeling?

 

JC

 

 

[joy2730]

I am feeling really bad - my whole family is a mess and broken.   I don't feel strong at all - I have made a GP appointment for Tuesday morning - I will end up on more pills.

 

Joy

[Junglechicken]

8 hours ago, joy2730 said:

I am feeling really bad - my whole family is a mess and broken.   I don't feel strong at all - I have made a GP appointment for Tuesday morning - I will end up on more pills.

 

Joy

 

Joy,

 

Today is today, tomorrow another day.....we have to believe it will get better.

 

Yesterday I felt like you did, I did a runner because my mother was cruel (again).

 

Today, I'm relieved to be away from her and her toxicity.

 

Do you think that the pills will truly help you, or just be a band aid?

 

JC

[Frogie]

On May 12, 2018 at 12:18 PM, Junglechicken said:

WHY did I go there???

 

WHY did I go to help my mother move???

 

After 3 hrs, she drove the knife right in.

 

I am now back home (without my husband) who stayed.

 

She made a point of saying that a picture that my husband and I gave my parents, not to mention another item given to my parents by me and my husband were going to my brother. He flies to the UK on Monday to help her with her move.

I'm sorry you had to go through that.

 

Family can be so cruel. I have one like that.

 

I'm glad you feel better being home.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Junglechicken]

9 hours ago, Frogie said:

I'm sorry you had to go through that.

 

Family can be so cruel. I have one like that.

 

I'm glad you feel better being home.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

 

Thank you Frogie,

 

Her attitude towards me has gotten worse and worse in the lead up to my father's death and ever since.

 

If someone is of "bad" character anyway, then a major bereavement is going to takes its toll on their existing attitudes to life and the people they know.

 

She is very bitter because my father didn't leave her any money, however, she played a BIG part in helping him spend all their money.  She also buried her head in the sand when it came to trying to "fix" the mess.  That was left to me.

 

Staying away from her and enjoying mine and hubby's lovely cottage is the best thing I can do.

 

Its sad Frogie, she is drinking and smoking herself to death.

 

TC,

JC xxx

 

 

[Flowers]

Hi JC

 

You are doing the right thing in putting you and your husband first. As you say you have your lovely new home to enjoy. Still hurtful that your mother behaves in this way.

 

Love Flowers xxx

[Scorpio]

Hi jc

hope you don’t mind me writing but just needed some advice on dosage with the bear berry and l-theanine as have problems with supplements. I think the theanine is in capsules do you know if it is alright to split them so I can try a lower dose to start with. They haven’t arrived yet but would imagine it will probably be today. 

‘Hope you gave recovered from the ordeal with your mother and are now enjoying your lovely home and countryside. 

Hugs

ann 

[Junglechicken]

1 minute ago, Scorpio said:

Hi jc

hope you don’t mind me writing but just needed some advice on dosage with the bear berry and l-theanine as have problems with supplements. I think the theanine is in capsules do you know if it is alright to split them so I can try a lower dose to start with. They haven’t arrived yet but would imagine it will probably be today. 

‘Hope you gave recovered from the ordeal with your mother and are now enjoying your lovely home and countryside. 

Hugs

ann 

 

Bless you Scorpio, write anytime 🙂

 

Take 15 drops of the Bearberry diluted in water x2 / day (think shot glass amount of water).

 

You don't need to start "small" on the L-Theanine - take x2 / day, i.e. 1 capsule AM and 1 capsule PM.

 

Yes, they will arrive today - The Natural Dispensary is very efficient at getting items to people.

 

I'm recovering from the ordeal with my mother.  Definitely happy to be home, and focusing on other things.

 

Let me know how it goes.

 

Hugs,

JC

[Junglechicken]

12 hours ago, Flowers said:

Hi JC

 

You are doing the right thing in putting you and your husband first. As you say you have your lovely new home to enjoy. Still hurtful that your mother behaves in this way.

 

Love Flowers xxx

 

Thank you Flowers,

 

I have had enough of putting myself out for my mother. 

 

As it is, there is nothing more upsetting than seeing my mother wasting away (booze and fags), not looking after herself, and showing nothing but pure hatred and contempt for me when I'm trying to help her (and always have).

 

I cannot save her from herself.

 

Getting there with the cottage, but £££££ flying out the window.  NEED to work - have said it before many times, but couldn't cope at the time.  Now I can (PLEASE GOD!).

 

When is your op?  

 

Love JC xxx

[Junglechicken]

On ‎5‎/‎13‎/‎2018 at 1:29 PM, joy2730 said:

I am feeling really bad - my whole family is a mess and broken.   I don't feel strong at all - I have made a GP appointment for Tuesday morning - I will end up on more pills.

 

Joy

 

How did it go Joy??

 

JC xx

[Junglechicken]

Lg,

 

The Slippery Elm has arrived........finally 🙂

 

I also have Oil of oregano capsules for the candida.

 

Will keep you posted as to healing.

 

Hugs,

JC xx

[Scorpio]

Hi jc

thank you for the dosage advice. I’m taking the bearberry today only as in such a bad way with this cold hitting everything hard will wait til I get some improvement then try the theanine. 

Hugs

[Junglechicken]

1 minute ago, Scorpio said:

Hi jc

thank you for the dosage advice. I’m taking the bearberry today only as in such a bad way with this cold hitting everything hard will wait til I get some improvement then try the theanine. 

Hugs

 

Great!

 

You will start seeing improvement Scorpio, and the bladder pain will ease.  The Bearberry is a natural anti-biotic.

 

Do you mean you're only taking it for 1 day?  

 

Pack in High strength Vit C supplements for immunity too.  When did the cold start?

 

Hugs

[Scorpio]

Hi jc

no i am only taking the bearberry and then when w/d symptoms ease a bit alongside the worst cold on the planet I will then start the l-theanine. I have not had a kick from the bearberry today so hopefully I’m fine with that and be able to continue taking it. Vitamin c supplements react badly with me still so stuffing myself with strawberries, raspberries, tangerine and anything else fruity. 

‘Hopefully one day in the not too distant future I will be able to take anything without worrying like chocolate or sweets which are a definite no at the moment. 

Hugs

[Flowers]

8 hours ago, Junglechicken said:

 

Thank you Flowers,

 

I have had enough of putting myself out for my mother. 

 

As it is, there is nothing more upsetting than seeing my mother wasting away (booze and fags), not looking after herself, and showing nothing but pure hatred and contempt for me when I'm trying to help her (and always have).

 

I cannot save her from herself.

 

Getting there with the cottage, but £££££ flying out the window.  NEED to work - have said it before many times, but couldn't cope at the time.  Now I can (PLEASE GOD!).

 

When is your op?  

 

Love JC xxx

You have been a wonderful daughter. Time to look after yourself.

 

Did you have renovation work to do on the cottage?  Budgets always go over when doing that!  Ours is still ongoing but we are getting there. The new kitchen is in and new ceiling beams are up in the dining area.  Back door to block up and two windows to go in and then the plasterer. Maybe we will be finished by Christmas!

 

They have told me my op is urgent but have no idea when. They just call you to come into hospital and give you a weeks notice so not making any plans.

 

Flowers xxx

[Junglechicken]

5 minutes ago, Scorpio said:

Hi jc

no i am only taking the bearberry and then when w/d symptoms ease a bit alongside the worst cold on the planet I will then start the l-theanine. I have not had a kick from the bearberry today so hopefully I’m fine with that and be able to continue taking it. Vitamin c supplements react badly with me still so stuffing myself with strawberries, raspberries, tangerine and anything else fruity. 

‘Hopefully one day in the not too distant future I will be able to take anything without worrying like chocolate or sweets which are a definite no at the moment. 

Hugs

 

Ok Scorpio, understood.

 

Keep me posted, I really hope you find relief soon.

 

Hugs

[Junglechicken]

My biggest issue now is battling "ground elder/poison ivy" in the garden.

 

Its taken hold of one of the beds.

 

Anyone know of an eco-friendly way of getting rid of it.  I've spent most of the morning trying to dig it up, but it has a very complex root system ☹️

 

Thx,

JC xx

[Junglechicken]

P.S Gardening is very therapeutic, and works up a sweat.  BUT even a small garden is hard work if it is to look good (like anything).

[Frogie]

On May 14, 2018 at 4:37 AM, Junglechicken said:

 

Thank you Frogie,

 

Her attitude towards me has gotten worse and worse in the lead up to my father's death and ever since.

 

If someone is of "bad" character anyway, then a major bereavement is going to takes its toll on their existing attitudes to life and the people they know.

 

She is very bitter because my father didn't leave her any money, however, she played a BIG part in helping him spend all their money.  She also buried her head in the sand when it came to trying to "fix" the mess.  That was left to me.

 

Staying away from her and enjoying mine and hubby's lovely cottage is the best thing I can do.

 

Its sad Frogie, she is drinking and smoking herself to death.

 

TC,

JC xxx

 

 

I'm sorry to hear all of this.

 

They say people take out things on the people they love. So maybe, she loves you in her own way.

 

I think your best bet will be to stay away from her.

 

Again, I'm really sorry. I'm going through some tough times right now too. A week ago today I put Brownie to sleep. She was 16 and her liver had failed. She wasn't eating or drinking anymore. Then Mother's Day I ate a chicken pot pie and ended up with food poisoning. 

 

Things will get better for both of us.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Junglechicken]

1 minute ago, Frogie said:

I'm sorry to hear all of this.

 

They say people take out things on the people they love. So maybe, she loves you in her own way.

 

I think your best bet will be to stay away from her.

 

Again, I'm really sorry. I'm going through some tough times right now too. A week ago today I put Brownie to sleep. She was 16 and her liver had failed. She wasn't eating or drinking anymore. Then Mother's Day I ate a chicken pot pie and ended up with food poisoning. 

 

Things will get better for both of us.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

 

Thanks Frogie, except she doesn't behave that way with my brother, because I am her "scapegoat".

 

Yes, I'm staying well away from her.

 

I'm very sad you lost Brownie ........ 16 is a good age for a small dog.  

 

The food poisoning just sucks, are you ok now?

 

Things HAVE to get better for us both.

 

TC,

JC xx

 

 

 

 

[Frogie]

12 minutes ago, Junglechicken said:

 

Thanks Frogie, except she doesn't behave that way with my brother, because I am her "scapegoat".

 

Yes, I'm staying well away from her.

 

I'm very sad you lost Brownie ........ 16 is a good age for a small dog.  

 

The food poisoning just sucks, are you ok now?

 

Things HAVE to get better for us both.

 

TC,

JC xx

 

 

 

 

JC:

 

It's because you live close to her and you are an easy target and she knows how to push your buttons. I know all too well. My dad was the same way with me. But unfortunately, I was not allowed to see him when he was dying because of his wife.

 

Thanks about Brownie. I miss her laying next to me and giving me kisses on the nose. It will take a while. But I couldn't let her suffer as much as it hurt.

 

Today is the 1st day that I have been out of bed since Sun. Except for yesterday, I did go to the dr to make sure it wasn't anything really serious. I'm just weak. But I am on the uphill I think.

 

Things WILL get better for both of us. Give Sealy some hugs.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Junglechicken]

A bit of gut sensitivity today (possibly from all that digging yesterday??), things a bit loose.

 

Going to tackle an easier bed today.

[Junglechicken]

12 hours ago, Frogie said:

JC:

 

It's because you live close to her and you are an easy target and she knows how to push your buttons. I know all too well. My dad was the same way with me. But unfortunately, I was not allowed to see him when he was dying because of his wife.

 

Thanks about Brownie. I miss her laying next to me and giving me kisses on the nose. It will take a while. But I couldn't let her suffer as much as it hurt.

 

Today is the 1st day that I have been out of bed since Sun. Except for yesterday, I did go to the dr to make sure it wasn't anything really serious. I'm just weak. But I am on the uphill I think.

 

Things WILL get better for both of us. Give Sealy some hugs.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

 

Glad you're on the mend Frogie, these things have to work their way out of our system.  Its very draining (literally), and as you say you feel weak at the moment.

 

I gave Sealy lots of hugs! 

 

Whenever I was at home, our dog used to go round to each one of us and wake us up with a snuffle and a lick on the face.  He was reminding us that someone needed to take him out for morning "pee" and feed him.  Of course, a dog walk after his breakfast.

 

As for my mother, she has always favoured my brother over me.  She has a pathological hatred of women, and never particularly liked her mother, so I'm screwed.

 

TC,

JC xxx