☼ Junglechicken

[Junglechicken]

Hit with nausea this afternoon ☹️

 

Got an ulcer under my tongue which is right on top of one of the connective tissues/muscle - painful.  Immune system issue?

 

Gut not in a good way today ............

[Junglechicken]

Been hit with severe nausea (as of Wednesday).

 

Nearly threw up a few times, but am going to look to ginger and lemon tea / peppermint tea to try and combat it.

 

Had to stay in bed an extra hour because my gut has been gurgling.

 

Also feel too hot, probably because I'm up in the attic on the computer.

 

NOT A HAPPY CHICKEN ☹️

[Junglechicken]

Looks like I've entered the "combat" zone of WD now, it started on Wednesday.

 

Trying to remain calm, nausea terrible............just hope I don't vomit.  The prelude to nausea must have been dry mouth.

 

Have had awful mood swings (angry with hubby), I think he is wondering what I've turned into.

 

 

[Junglechicken]

The ginger, mint and lime that I'm drinking seem to be working - THANK YOU GOD!

 

Will see how this goes, I'm assuming a whole load of toxins (Lexapro??) got released into my bloodstream in one go which has set this off.

 

 

[Littlegrandma]

Sorry JC

i hope this is short lived for you. 

 

I dont know anything about tea. Can you tell me what you’re drinking? Bottled or brewed?

the only thing I’ve tried for nausea is Dramamine. It doesn’t settle well with me and makes me sleepy and lethargic. 

 

Hope you’re feeling much better soon. Glad the tea helped!

hugs lg

[Junglechicken]

1 minute ago, Littlegrandma said:

Sorry JC

i hope this is short lived for you. 

 

I dont know anything about tea. Can you tell me what you’re drinking? Bottled or brewed?

the only thing I’ve tried for nausea is Dramamine. It doesn’t settle well with me and makes me sleepy and lethargic. 

 

Hope you’re feeling much better soon. Glad the tea helped!

hugs lg

 

Thanks Lg (so do I!),

 

I'm literally drinking a mint herbal tea, and in another mug, fresh ginger (shredded in the food processor) and a slice of lime in cold water.

 

Will look up Dramamine, as never heard of it.........

 

Hugs,

JC

[Littlegrandma]

Thanks JC

nausea has been a constant for 11 months. 

Ive seen the recommendations for ginger and mint. Stupid I’ve never tried either. If I can get to a store, the choices are so overwhelming. 

You make it sound easy. 

Thats a brewed warm mint herbal tea?  I’m clueless these days. 

xx

[Junglechicken]

It ain't easy Lg, sometimes we just get stuck in a rut and not do something (just because).  

 

Yes, a brewed mint herbal tea (hot water).  Fresh ginger and lemon (I only had lime) in cold water is really good for nausea.  Although, I know it doesn't work for Frogie though!

 

Hopefully that'll ease it for you.

 

HOW have you coped with nausea for 11 months??  That shows how mentally resilient you are!

 

Hugs,

JC

[Junglechicken]

Right, now for some bio yogurt.

[Littlegrandma]

Thanks again JC

nausea is the least of my symptom worries. But it would be great to have one less. 

 

I so appreciate it!! 

Love, lg

[Junglechicken]

Just now, Littlegrandma said:

Thanks again JC

nausea is the least of my symptom worries. But it would be great to have one less. 

 

I so appreciate it!! 

Love, lg

 

OMG, well looks like I'm entering that hell hole as well!

 

Anytime I can help Lg I'll try.

 

Love,

JC

[Junglechicken]

26 minutes ago, Junglechicken said:

Right, now for some bio yogurt.

 

My gut REALLY wanted that yoghurt and liked it!

 

Its got 3 strains of friendly bacteria in it, so that must be the reason.

[Junglechicken]

Nausea went by mid-afternoon.

 

Bio-yoghurt, herbal teas, fresh ginger and lime slice in cold water seemed to do it.  I also ate a bit of plain quinoa later.

 

Couldnt take any supplements today either.

[Frogie]

9 minutes ago, Junglechicken said:

Nausea went by mid-afternoon.

 

Bio-yoghurt, herbal teas, fresh ginger and lime slice in cold water seemed to do it.  I also ate a bit of plain quinoa later.

 

Couldnt take any supplements today either.

I'm glad it went away and you are feeling better.

 

I don't take any supplements anymore. They were causing some of my nausea I figured out. Except Milk Thistle for my liver. 

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[joy2730]

Hi JC

 

How much would you say all your supplements cost you per month?  I am curious because I got Spirulina from Holland and Barratt and although I like it price alone would prevent me rebuying it, the same with my protein shakes.

 

I just wonder if firms like Holland and Barratt are as bad in their own way as Big Pharma.

 

You obviously don't need to quote figures, or even answer at all, but I suppose I have become cynical.

 

Joy

[Junglechicken]

5 minutes ago, joy2730 said:

Hi JC

 

How much would you say all your supplements cost you per month?  I am curious because I got Spirulina from Holland and Barratt and although I like it price alone would prevent me rebuying it, the same with my protein shakes.

 

I just wonder if firms like Holland and Barratt are as bad in their own way as Big Pharma.

 

You obviously don't need to quote figures, or even answer at all, but I suppose I have become cynical.

 

Joy

 

Too much Joy,

 

I couldn't stomach any supplements today......however, they have cost me an arm and a leg over the past year or so.

 

Having said that, I do believe they work, but then stress can scotch everything and you have to start all over.

 

I have no doubt that NDs get generous £cuts for supplements they recommend to Clients.

 

JC

[joy2730]

Perhaps JC the way forward is to use food/drink wisely instead?  I am starting to think like this now.

 

An example:  I have always spent a fortune on face creams and makeup but recently have cut back to budget buys and have found that in many ways I look better because I try to exercise regularly and am taking more care with what I eat and drink.  It is as if I have been looking at the problem from the surface only and not from deep inside me?

 

So I have spent my life taking psychiatric meds (not a solution) and spending a fortune on cosmetics and cream (might as well have bought cheap).  What really matters is a healthy lifestyle and healthy relationships and fulfilling work. 

 

Why did I not realise this years ago?  Don't get me wrong, I have a long way to go on all counts, but I keep getting better at it.

 

Joy

[apace41]

5 minutes ago, joy2730 said:

Why did I not realise this years ago? 

 

I suspect two reasons, Joy:

 

First, "youth is wasted on the young" -- we learn what really matters only with the benefit of wisdom which requires time and aging

 

Second, because there are a lot of highly compensated advertisers whose sole purpose is to try to make you think you need what they are selling.

 

Best,

 

Andy

[joy2730]

So true Andy.

 

Joy

[Junglechicken]

4 hours ago, Frogie said:

I'm glad it went away and you are feeling better.

 

I don't take any supplements anymore. They were causing some of my nausea I figured out. Except Milk Thistle for my liver. 

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

 

Thanks Frogie, and now my GERD has returned with a vengeance.

 

All I want is the Slippery Elm to arrive, my throat feels terrible.

 

TC,

JC xxx

[Junglechicken]

3 hours ago, apace41 said:

 

I suspect two reasons, Joy:

 

First, "youth is wasted on the young" -- we learn what really matters only with the benefit of wisdom which requires time and aging

 

Second, because there are a lot of highly compensated advertisers whose sole purpose is to try to make you think you need what they are selling.

 

Best,

 

Andy

 

"Here, here" to that too Andy.

 

 

[Junglechicken]

3 hours ago, joy2730 said:

Perhaps JC the way forward is to use food/drink wisely instead?  I am starting to think like this now.

 

An example:  I have always spent a fortune on face creams and makeup but recently have cut back to budget buys and have found that in many ways I look better because I try to exercise regularly and am taking more care with what I eat and drink.  It is as if I have been looking at the problem from the surface only and not from deep inside me?

 

So I have spent my life taking psychiatric meds (not a solution) and spending a fortune on cosmetics and cream (might as well have bought cheap).  What really matters is a healthy lifestyle and healthy relationships and fulfilling work. 

 

Why did I not realise this years ago?  Don't get me wrong, I have a long way to go on all counts, but I keep getting better at it.

 

Joy

 

Many of us have done this kind of thing Joy.

 

I went through a period of ONLY drinking Evian water, and insisting I had a super expensive Evian facial spray in my handbag.

 

Nowadays, I feel lucky to feel healthy.

 

Its all about Dr and dentist appts.

 

JC

[Frogie]

10 minutes ago, Junglechicken said:

 

Thanks Frogie, and now my GERD has returned with a vengeance.

 

All I want is the Slippery Elm to arrive, my throat feels terrible.

 

TC,

JC xxx

Sorry to hear the GERD has come back.

 

I took PPI's for years and got off of them. 

 

I hope the Slippery Elm works for you.  JanCarol is very knowledgeable in that stuff.

 

Let me know how it works for you.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx 

[rupa]

I too experienced mouth infections in the way of tapering twice. Deffinately these all symptoms are withdrawal.

Salt gargling helped with mouth infection.

[Littlegrandma]

Hey JC

i was researching diflucan and I saw you brought that drug up in a post in 2016. But your question got no response. 

Did you ever end up taking it? My daughter suggested it rather than a 7 day slow treatment for yeast infection. 

 

Thanks

lg

[Junglechicken]

20 hours ago, Frogie said:

Sorry to hear the GERD has come back.

 

I took PPI's for years and got off of them. 

 

I hope the Slippery Elm works for you.  JanCarol is very knowledgeable in that stuff.

 

Let me know how it works for you.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx 

 

So do I Frogie, it has to.  If it doesn't then I'll try aloe.

 

I think the GERD has been triggered by WD and not the detox.

 

TC,

JC xx

[Junglechicken]

15 hours ago, rupa said:

I too experienced mouth infections in the way of tapering twice. Deffinately these all symptoms are withdrawal.

Salt gargling helped with mouth infection.

 

Thanks Rupa, much appreciated.

 

Tapering must compromise the immune system significantly to cause so many infections.  I had a gum infection last summer which required ABs.

 

How are you now?

 

 

[Junglechicken]

58 minutes ago, Littlegrandma said:

Hey JC

i was researching diflucan and I saw you brought that drug up in a post in 2016. But your question got no response. 

Did you ever end up taking it? My daughter suggested it rather than a 7 day slow treatment for yeast infection. 

 

Thanks

lg

 

Hi Lg,

 

No, I never took Diflucan in the end.

 

I don't think I could ever have taken it anyway as it interacts with Lexapro.

 

JC

[Littlegrandma]

Well, that solves that issue then. I didn’t look up the drug reaction. 

Thanks JC

xx

[Junglechicken]

 

Interesting article about getting off ADs:

 

https://www.everydayhealth.com/columns/therese-borchard-sanity-break/get-off-antidepressant-without-freaking-out/

[Junglechicken]

Anyone else suffer from a mouth ulcer for longer than a week??

 

Now I'm concerned its mouth cancer ☹️

 

Have only just started applying "Bonjela" to numb the pain.

[Littlegrandma]

JC

the insides of my mouth( cheeks) have been raw for  a year. Also get a burning tongue. 

You see the dentist this week, right? He’ll alleviate your fears. 

[manymoretodays]

3 hours ago, Junglechicken said:

Anyone else suffer from a mouth ulcer for longer than a week??

 

Now I'm concerned its mouth cancer ☹️

 

Have only just started applying "Bonjela" to numb the pain.

 

Hi Jungle,

 

Yes, I have.  Google or whatever search engine gingivostomatitis.  Perhaps it's more of just a gingivitis.   You can even check out the pictures.  Most  likely a herpes simplex type 1 causative factor(and stress) if your lesions look like the ones's pictured.  Like a cold sore but inside the mouth.  It generally takes about 10-14 days to totally clear and can get pretty excruciating, eh?  You need to avoid certain foods and fluids that sting extra bad.  When you search you will learn more.

 

You may want to delay any dental until you are clear.  Although they will be gloved and masked and you may be okay.  I'll leave that up to you.

 

There are antivirals(prescription only).........on occasion I've used acyclovir.  There's a newer one out that starts with a V as well.  I avoid that one as the pharmacist/?chemist wasn't keen on it and knows my history.  Acyclovir didn't do much though(no increase in the 10-14 day healing time) and honestly it makes me crabby.

My GP really isn't concerned that I'm autoimmune anything and labwork shows the same.  It's just an uncomfortable icky.  Like I said.......stress could be at the heart/cause of it.  Unlikely that it is cancer!

 

I do coconut oil daily on my gums....... after brushing and antiseptic mouthwash.  I've used a viscous xylocaine when it has occurred,  yet again very brief relief, and then the stinging is fourfold(increased) after.  Homeopathic poultices as well(helped me the most), ibuprofen.  Ice even.  I take L-lysine as one of my supplements now too.  Not a recommended one for early W/D though.  With the poultices I dissolved a couple different tablets in water and then soaked gauze pads in the water and applied the pads.  The pain was always worse when lying down too.

 

? Bonjela.  We have a orobase here.......maybe similar.  That has helped a bit for me as well.  It's tough though because our mouths are so moist that we can't keep the gels on long.

 

Okie dokie.  Be well, get well,

and let us know how it goes,

Love, peace, healing, growth,

mmt

[Junglechicken]

THANK YOU Lg and MMT (you lovely ladies ❤️),

 

I had a 2nd appointment this morning at my doctor's, and it definitely isn't oral thrush, its mouth scum.

 

Will be seeing my dentist on Friday to conclude what's going on.

 

I do have a little "thing" on my pallet, and inflammation (mouth ulcer??) under the tongue.

 

Doc said, if dentist says its oral thrush then she can prescribe something over the phone (anti fungal mouthwash).

 

So, will know more on Friday.

 

JC xx

[Junglechicken]

Anyone else had a painful small "indentation" on their pallet / roof of mouth?

 

Dont know what it is .....

[Junglechicken]

At nearly a month on this crazy strict diet, I had a scoop of ice cream.

 

On a tangent, Dr couldn't understand how a urine test could reveal fungal/yeast pathogens in small intestine.  She reckons it's rubbish.

 

VERY worried about my mouth though, Dr didn't say that anything she saw looked concerning, however, this is the first time I've had 2 painful "things" going on in my mouth