Godiswithme Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 (edited) godiswithme-xanax-taper-after-cold-turkey-of-lexapro-and-abilify It has been 8.5 weeks since I ct'd off 30 mgs of generic lexapro and 2mg of Abilify. I was depressed because my father who lived with us had died and marriage was getting rocky from the stress. I had been taking the generic lexapro for 2 years. This doctor added Abilify in Jan '16. I trusted her. I was depressed over life issues. I have no previous mental health diagnosis other than some anxiety which I had taken Xanax over the past 5 years. Most .5 three times per day. varied in usage - often less. I quickly became dysfunctional and family doctor prescribed .5 Ativan twice per day or I would have died. I have only become a bit more functional. but barely. I don't know what to do. I am very scared. Edited January 7, 2019 by ChessieCat tags in Aug 2014, prescribed 20 mg of escitalopram. Oct 2014, upped to 30 mg. In January 2016, "doctor" added 2mg of Abilify I had been taking .5 Xanax in AM and PM for a few years Xanax November 23rd, 2016 .25 5 times per day Took .5 Ativan in AM and .5 Ativan in PM 10 hours apart for 2 weeks and 2 days. I stopped Ativan on Nov 4th 2016 I cold turkeyed off escitalopram and Abilify on September 4, 2016 i crosses over to 1 mg of Klonopin in Dec 2016. Since withdrawal, I have occasionally taken 10mg or 20mg propranolol when my heart was pounding uncontrollably Supplements Magnesium, Vitamin C, Natural Calm magnesium drink. Just started 11/16/16 Lactium supplement 167mg at night. Godiswithme: I'm very scared Godiswithme: Xanax taper after cold-turkey of Lexapro and Abilify Jan 2017. Slowly reinstated Lexapro over 4-5 mos to 15mg. Have stayed on that amount. Sept 2017. Started tapering 1mg of Klonopin. As of May 2017, I am at .426 mg of Klonopin split into 2 doses per day. Link to comment
AliG Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Hello Godiswithme. I'm so sorry for what you have been through however I'm sure that we can help you. To give us a fuller picture, would you mind filling out your drug history signature with drugs , dates , doses etc in the last few years so that we can see your history easily whenever you post.This will also help us to offer more concise advice for your particular situation. Please put your withdrawal history in your signature Are you wanting to taper off your drugs ? If you are then you've come to the right place. We can guide you in that direction safely. Welcome to SA. Ali Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014 Psych Drug - free since May 2014 . Link to comment
Godiswithme Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 Hello AliG I cold turkeyed. I believe it is too late to reinstate. I think my life is over. Please please help me however you think you are able. I did fill out my history? in Aug 2014, prescribed 20 mg of escitalopram. Oct 2014, upped to 30 mg. In January 2016, "doctor" added 2mg of Abilify I had been taking .5 Xanax in AM and PM for a few years Xanax November 23rd, 2016 .25 5 times per day Took .5 Ativan in AM and .5 Ativan in PM 10 hours apart for 2 weeks and 2 days. I stopped Ativan on Nov 4th 2016 I cold turkeyed off escitalopram and Abilify on September 4, 2016 i crosses over to 1 mg of Klonopin in Dec 2016. Since withdrawal, I have occasionally taken 10mg or 20mg propranolol when my heart was pounding uncontrollably Supplements Magnesium, Vitamin C, Natural Calm magnesium drink. Just started 11/16/16 Lactium supplement 167mg at night. Godiswithme: I'm very scared Godiswithme: Xanax taper after cold-turkey of Lexapro and Abilify Jan 2017. Slowly reinstated Lexapro over 4-5 mos to 15mg. Have stayed on that amount. Sept 2017. Started tapering 1mg of Klonopin. As of May 2017, I am at .426 mg of Klonopin split into 2 doses per day. Link to comment
Godiswithme Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 I have the worst anxiety I have ever felt. I don't know what to do. I take vitamin C and magnesium. in Aug 2014, prescribed 20 mg of escitalopram. Oct 2014, upped to 30 mg. In January 2016, "doctor" added 2mg of Abilify I had been taking .5 Xanax in AM and PM for a few years Xanax November 23rd, 2016 .25 5 times per day Took .5 Ativan in AM and .5 Ativan in PM 10 hours apart for 2 weeks and 2 days. I stopped Ativan on Nov 4th 2016 I cold turkeyed off escitalopram and Abilify on September 4, 2016 i crosses over to 1 mg of Klonopin in Dec 2016. Since withdrawal, I have occasionally taken 10mg or 20mg propranolol when my heart was pounding uncontrollably Supplements Magnesium, Vitamin C, Natural Calm magnesium drink. Just started 11/16/16 Lactium supplement 167mg at night. Godiswithme: I'm very scared Godiswithme: Xanax taper after cold-turkey of Lexapro and Abilify Jan 2017. Slowly reinstated Lexapro over 4-5 mos to 15mg. Have stayed on that amount. Sept 2017. Started tapering 1mg of Klonopin. As of May 2017, I am at .426 mg of Klonopin split into 2 doses per day. Link to comment
Godiswithme Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 Is anyone out there? Please? in Aug 2014, prescribed 20 mg of escitalopram. Oct 2014, upped to 30 mg. In January 2016, "doctor" added 2mg of Abilify I had been taking .5 Xanax in AM and PM for a few years Xanax November 23rd, 2016 .25 5 times per day Took .5 Ativan in AM and .5 Ativan in PM 10 hours apart for 2 weeks and 2 days. I stopped Ativan on Nov 4th 2016 I cold turkeyed off escitalopram and Abilify on September 4, 2016 i crosses over to 1 mg of Klonopin in Dec 2016. Since withdrawal, I have occasionally taken 10mg or 20mg propranolol when my heart was pounding uncontrollably Supplements Magnesium, Vitamin C, Natural Calm magnesium drink. Just started 11/16/16 Lactium supplement 167mg at night. Godiswithme: I'm very scared Godiswithme: Xanax taper after cold-turkey of Lexapro and Abilify Jan 2017. Slowly reinstated Lexapro over 4-5 mos to 15mg. Have stayed on that amount. Sept 2017. Started tapering 1mg of Klonopin. As of May 2017, I am at .426 mg of Klonopin split into 2 doses per day. Link to comment
AliG Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Godiswithme. It's not too late to reinstate. A little lexapro - maybe 1 mg to start could ease the withdrawal symptoms a little. About reinstating and stabilizing to reduce withdrawal symptoms Have a read and see what you think . Ali Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014 Psych Drug - free since May 2014 . Link to comment
jmncrr Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 godiswithme, Hang on everything is going to be ok. You are going through withdrawal. One of the experts here will help you soon. You probably need to reinstate part of the doses you were taking for relief. Somebody with more experience here will give you a recommendation. Been taking paroxetine 20 mg for 20+ years for depression. Taking 300 mg of wellbutrin since October 2015 for adhd and depression. Take fish oil, calcium, and a multivitamin. Started taking risperidone late January 2015 3mg for a misdiagnoses of bipolar. Started tapering risperidone late July 2016. As of late September tapered down to 2mg at 5% a week off current dose. Oct 21/2016 1.58 mg Nov 21/2016 1.26mg No withdrawals so far. Link to comment
Godiswithme Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 I'm terrified. I honestly feel like I am going to die. I can't imagine going back on this poison. So afraid of the possibility of it getting worse? I couldn't handle worse. I am barely holding on. I'm so sorry to sound like this. in Aug 2014, prescribed 20 mg of escitalopram. Oct 2014, upped to 30 mg. In January 2016, "doctor" added 2mg of Abilify I had been taking .5 Xanax in AM and PM for a few years Xanax November 23rd, 2016 .25 5 times per day Took .5 Ativan in AM and .5 Ativan in PM 10 hours apart for 2 weeks and 2 days. I stopped Ativan on Nov 4th 2016 I cold turkeyed off escitalopram and Abilify on September 4, 2016 i crosses over to 1 mg of Klonopin in Dec 2016. Since withdrawal, I have occasionally taken 10mg or 20mg propranolol when my heart was pounding uncontrollably Supplements Magnesium, Vitamin C, Natural Calm magnesium drink. Just started 11/16/16 Lactium supplement 167mg at night. Godiswithme: I'm very scared Godiswithme: Xanax taper after cold-turkey of Lexapro and Abilify Jan 2017. Slowly reinstated Lexapro over 4-5 mos to 15mg. Have stayed on that amount. Sept 2017. Started tapering 1mg of Klonopin. As of May 2017, I am at .426 mg of Klonopin split into 2 doses per day. Link to comment
Godiswithme Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 Do I even have a chance at this lasting less than years? in Aug 2014, prescribed 20 mg of escitalopram. Oct 2014, upped to 30 mg. In January 2016, "doctor" added 2mg of Abilify I had been taking .5 Xanax in AM and PM for a few years Xanax November 23rd, 2016 .25 5 times per day Took .5 Ativan in AM and .5 Ativan in PM 10 hours apart for 2 weeks and 2 days. I stopped Ativan on Nov 4th 2016 I cold turkeyed off escitalopram and Abilify on September 4, 2016 i crosses over to 1 mg of Klonopin in Dec 2016. Since withdrawal, I have occasionally taken 10mg or 20mg propranolol when my heart was pounding uncontrollably Supplements Magnesium, Vitamin C, Natural Calm magnesium drink. Just started 11/16/16 Lactium supplement 167mg at night. Godiswithme: I'm very scared Godiswithme: Xanax taper after cold-turkey of Lexapro and Abilify Jan 2017. Slowly reinstated Lexapro over 4-5 mos to 15mg. Have stayed on that amount. Sept 2017. Started tapering 1mg of Klonopin. As of May 2017, I am at .426 mg of Klonopin split into 2 doses per day. Link to comment
Godiswithme Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 How is this legal? This doctor destroyed me. I had no idea. How can this be legal? I have 2 teenage boys and a husband and I'm a vegetable. in Aug 2014, prescribed 20 mg of escitalopram. Oct 2014, upped to 30 mg. In January 2016, "doctor" added 2mg of Abilify I had been taking .5 Xanax in AM and PM for a few years Xanax November 23rd, 2016 .25 5 times per day Took .5 Ativan in AM and .5 Ativan in PM 10 hours apart for 2 weeks and 2 days. I stopped Ativan on Nov 4th 2016 I cold turkeyed off escitalopram and Abilify on September 4, 2016 i crosses over to 1 mg of Klonopin in Dec 2016. Since withdrawal, I have occasionally taken 10mg or 20mg propranolol when my heart was pounding uncontrollably Supplements Magnesium, Vitamin C, Natural Calm magnesium drink. Just started 11/16/16 Lactium supplement 167mg at night. Godiswithme: I'm very scared Godiswithme: Xanax taper after cold-turkey of Lexapro and Abilify Jan 2017. Slowly reinstated Lexapro over 4-5 mos to 15mg. Have stayed on that amount. Sept 2017. Started tapering 1mg of Klonopin. As of May 2017, I am at .426 mg of Klonopin split into 2 doses per day. Link to comment
AliG Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Godiswithme. More links to read : What is withdrawal syndrome? Non-drug techniques to cope with emotional symptoms Neuro emotions If you reinstate a small amount of Lexapro, it will help even out and slow down your withdrawal process, not completely eliminating symptoms but perhaps softening them a little. Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014 Psych Drug - free since May 2014 . Link to comment
Godiswithme Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 Even if I taper from 1 mg, won't I be right back in hell? My symptoms are EXTREME anxiety and EXTREME depression. I seem to have skipped many of the acute side effects. I'm so confused. in Aug 2014, prescribed 20 mg of escitalopram. Oct 2014, upped to 30 mg. In January 2016, "doctor" added 2mg of Abilify I had been taking .5 Xanax in AM and PM for a few years Xanax November 23rd, 2016 .25 5 times per day Took .5 Ativan in AM and .5 Ativan in PM 10 hours apart for 2 weeks and 2 days. I stopped Ativan on Nov 4th 2016 I cold turkeyed off escitalopram and Abilify on September 4, 2016 i crosses over to 1 mg of Klonopin in Dec 2016. Since withdrawal, I have occasionally taken 10mg or 20mg propranolol when my heart was pounding uncontrollably Supplements Magnesium, Vitamin C, Natural Calm magnesium drink. Just started 11/16/16 Lactium supplement 167mg at night. Godiswithme: I'm very scared Godiswithme: Xanax taper after cold-turkey of Lexapro and Abilify Jan 2017. Slowly reinstated Lexapro over 4-5 mos to 15mg. Have stayed on that amount. Sept 2017. Started tapering 1mg of Klonopin. As of May 2017, I am at .426 mg of Klonopin split into 2 doses per day. Link to comment
Godiswithme Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 I'm so sorry to sound like this. This isn't me. I was a self sufficient woman who was a little depressed. Thank you for the response. in Aug 2014, prescribed 20 mg of escitalopram. Oct 2014, upped to 30 mg. In January 2016, "doctor" added 2mg of Abilify I had been taking .5 Xanax in AM and PM for a few years Xanax November 23rd, 2016 .25 5 times per day Took .5 Ativan in AM and .5 Ativan in PM 10 hours apart for 2 weeks and 2 days. I stopped Ativan on Nov 4th 2016 I cold turkeyed off escitalopram and Abilify on September 4, 2016 i crosses over to 1 mg of Klonopin in Dec 2016. Since withdrawal, I have occasionally taken 10mg or 20mg propranolol when my heart was pounding uncontrollably Supplements Magnesium, Vitamin C, Natural Calm magnesium drink. Just started 11/16/16 Lactium supplement 167mg at night. Godiswithme: I'm very scared Godiswithme: Xanax taper after cold-turkey of Lexapro and Abilify Jan 2017. Slowly reinstated Lexapro over 4-5 mos to 15mg. Have stayed on that amount. Sept 2017. Started tapering 1mg of Klonopin. As of May 2017, I am at .426 mg of Klonopin split into 2 doses per day. Link to comment
Junglechicken Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Godiswithme - many of us were self-sufficient and functioning until we took these ADs. Hang in there, we are all in the same boat.....it does get better. Hugs, JC Dose History: 19 Feb 2014 - Escitalopram 10mg daily June 2015 - Started taper, 5mg every other day July 2015 - 5mg every 2 days August 2015 - 5mg every 3 days September 2015 - 5mg every 4 days Sept 14th - Completed tapering, but at 7 weeks "drug free" I suffered serious WD symptoms as a consequence of "incorrect" tapering. Nov 25 2015 - Re-instated Cipralex @ 2.5mg daily. WD symptoms faded. Held at this dose and experienced "windows and waves". 12 Oct 2017 Reduced dose to 1.25mg. 13 Mar 2018 Reduced dose to 0.625mg (approx.). 16 April 2018 0mg. Windows and waves triggered by stress (IBS/reflux, headaches, sinus issues) Aug 2019 Mirena coil fitted 6 Jan 2020 MAJOR Wave hit 19 months following last dose (protracted WD). Symptoms listed below Mar 2020 Mirena coil removal. Therapy: Nov 15th 2016 Re-started therapy Jan 19th 2017 Started CBT Dec 2017 Started listening to Hypnotherapy CD (self-esteem). Nov 2019 Started couples therapy. Supplements: "Bioglan" Biotic Balance Ultimate Flora 10 billion CFU, live Bacteria, Probiotic, suitable for Vegetarians, with Lactobacillus Acidophilus, Lactobacillus Rhamnosus, Bifidobacterium Longum. "Pukka" Vitalise a unique blend of 30 energising botanicals. Diet: 16 April 2018 Detox cleanse / anti-candida for 90 days. Jan 2020 Started "small plate" diet (i.e child size portions). Exercise: Stretching, Yoga, Pilates, Spinning, Elliptical/upper body workout, walking. Medical Test Results: 4 Jan 2017 Homeopathic Treatment starts 24 Feb 2017 Started weight loss program 24 Mar 2017 Naturopathic Treatment + anti-Candida diet started due to suspected Candida Related Complex (CRC). DETOXED for 7 weeks to "re-set" gut. April 2017 "Genova Diagnostics" Comprehensive Stool Analysis NEGATIVE; Full Blood Count (Normal) / Blood Cholesterol: 5.6 (Borderline) / Blood Sugar (Normal) / 28 Jun 2017 FSH 8.2 / 14 Nov 2017 FSH 17.7 Dec 2017 Blood Cholesterol: 3.9 (Normal) / Kidney Function (Normal) / Blood Sugar (Normal). December 2017 "Genova Diagnostics" Food panel allergy (bloodwork) analysis - a few "VERY LOW/VL" allergens; Mar 2018 "Genova Diagnostics" SIBO urine analysis: High Level of Yeast/fungal markers found in small intestine but NO SIBO. April 2018 Thyroid (Normal) / Full Blood Count (Normal) / FSH (Normal). 16 April 2018 Started anti-Candida diet - 3 month protocol. 25 March 2020 All test results "Normal". CRP" 5 mg/L (normal range to 0-5 mg/L). Symptoms: Flu-like symptoms, anxiety, anhedonia, sinus headaches right-side (severe), IBS issues/reflux (severe)**, tinnitus, fatigue, inner tremor, nausea, chills/hot flushes, pounding heart, muscular issues including stiff left hip flexor, intense anger, PSSD (ongoing). **Histhamine intolerance (suspected). Major Life Events: Re-located to UK from Canada: Jan 2016 My father died: 5:05pm, Monday 5 Feb 2018 Last Lexapro dose: 16 April 2018 (its now been over a year since I quit ADs) Moved house: Friday 23rd February 2018 "Divorced" toxic Mother: Monday 26 March 2018 Starting working again: 19 November 2018 Diagnosed with: 5th August 2021 PTSD/C-PTSD Diagnosed with: March 2022 Interstitial Cystitis (IC)/Painful bladder syndrome Link to comment
AliG Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Whether you reinstate or not it's possible to recover from this. I know it's scary right now but with a little help and guidance from us and some time and stabilization you can get through this. Please read the links and fill in your drug history signature with your drugs , dates, doses , discontinuations and any reinstatements over the last 12 - 18 months. Please put your withdrawal history in your signature This is your thread to ask questions , keep track of progress and stay in touch with the SA community. Have a read of the links and come back with any questions you may have. Ali Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014 Psych Drug - free since May 2014 . Link to comment
Mentor Happy2Heal Posted November 1, 2016 Mentor Share Posted November 1, 2016 (edited) Do I even have a chance at this lasting less than years? hang on hon, and don't think that far ahead, you want to get thru today and just today, or just the next few minutes or hours I was just where you are now, not even a week ago and did not think I could survive it, but so far, so good I was off lexapro completely for 5 mos and just now reinstated at a super small dose of about 1/10th of a mg (I have the liquid and a 1cc oral syringe marked off in 1/10ths) I literally took just 1/20th of a mg the first day, on the 26th and the difference in my anxiety level was dramatic and happened in just hours. I am still not where I want to be, but that horrible anxiety and darkness are gone for the most part. I know you don't want to be stuck on this drug, none of us do, but my decision to go back on a tiny dose was based on the fact that I was sure I could not survive the kind of anxiety and other symptoms I was having. you can get thru this, we are here to help you. I can't give any advice, just share my story and support you on your journey but there may be things we have in common that may help each other here is something that another member shared with me that has been a HUGE help http://www.getselfhelp.co.uk/music/FirstAidPanicF.mp3 Edited November 7, 2016 by Altostrata mp3 note Taking a break from mentoring, please do not message or tag me, thank you! Got some personal stuff to deal with and am not able to give you my full attention. I will remove this reminder when I am back. Keep on swimming, my friends. 😊 pysch med history: 1974 @ age 18 to Oct 2017 (approx 43 yrs total) Drug list: stelazine, haldol, elavil, lithium, zoloft, celexa, lexapro(doses as high as 40mgs), klonopin, ambien, seroquel(high doses), depakote, zyprexa, lamictal- plus brief trials of dozens of other psych meds over the years started lexapro 2002, dose varied from 20mgs to 40mgs. First attempt to get off it was 2007- WD symptoms were mistaken for "relapse". 2013 too fast taper down to 5mg but WD forced me back to 20mgs June of 2105, tapered again too rapidly to 2.5mgs by Dec 2015. Found SA, held at 2.5 mgs til May 2016 when I foolishly "jumped off". felt ok until Sept, then acute WD hit!! reinstated at 0.3mgs in Oct. 2106 Tapered off to zero by Oct. 2017 Doing very well. Nov. 2018 feel 95% healed, age 63 Jan. 2020 feel 100% healed, peaceful and content PRESENT DAYS: Loving life! ❤️ with all it's ups and downs Link to comment
Godiswithme Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 I can't see what the other member shared, Catnapt. So, did you do a slow taper of Lexapro? I was on the generic version. I'm guessing that doesn't come in liquid? The doctor I saw is completely clueless. I handed over my entire life to her. Why? How could I do that? Anyway, will I just be prolonging this unbearable agony by going back on a small dose? I appreciate you responding. I'm trying to hang on for the next few minutes. Like you said. I don't know what to do. People are driving and working and I am a vegetable. Am I way worse off than most? I can barely shower once per week. And that is with 2 .5 mg Ativan per day. in Aug 2014, prescribed 20 mg of escitalopram. Oct 2014, upped to 30 mg. In January 2016, "doctor" added 2mg of Abilify I had been taking .5 Xanax in AM and PM for a few years Xanax November 23rd, 2016 .25 5 times per day Took .5 Ativan in AM and .5 Ativan in PM 10 hours apart for 2 weeks and 2 days. I stopped Ativan on Nov 4th 2016 I cold turkeyed off escitalopram and Abilify on September 4, 2016 i crosses over to 1 mg of Klonopin in Dec 2016. Since withdrawal, I have occasionally taken 10mg or 20mg propranolol when my heart was pounding uncontrollably Supplements Magnesium, Vitamin C, Natural Calm magnesium drink. Just started 11/16/16 Lactium supplement 167mg at night. Godiswithme: I'm very scared Godiswithme: Xanax taper after cold-turkey of Lexapro and Abilify Jan 2017. Slowly reinstated Lexapro over 4-5 mos to 15mg. Have stayed on that amount. Sept 2017. Started tapering 1mg of Klonopin. As of May 2017, I am at .426 mg of Klonopin split into 2 doses per day. Link to comment
AliG Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 This link will help to explain : tapering Lexapro http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/406-tips-for-tapering-off-lexapro-escitalopram/ Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014 Psych Drug - free since May 2014 . Link to comment
Mentor Happy2Heal Posted November 1, 2016 Mentor Share Posted November 1, 2016 I can't see what the other member shared, Catnapt. So, did you do a slow taper of Lexapro? I was on the generic version. I'm guessing that doesn't come in liquid? The doctor I saw is completely clueless. I handed over my entire life to her. Why? How could I do that? Anyway, will I just be prolonging this unbearable agony by going back on a small dose? I appreciate you responding. I'm trying to hang on for the next few minutes. Like you said. I don't know what to do. People are driving and working and I am a vegetable. Am I way worse off than most? I can barely shower once per week. And that is with 2 .5 mg Ativan per day. hi Godiswithme are you on a smart phone? I shared a link to an audio clip, let me try that again http://www.getselfhelp.co.uk/music/FirstAidPanicF.mp3 I was on the generic of lexapro as well but a very high dose for a long time. I tried to get off it several times, not knowing anything about tapering and all that, and it did not go well, and the drs convinced me I was relapsing and put me back on it (actually one time I went off it, things got so bad, I begged a dr for the Rx of it!) my last taper was too fast and ended abruptly- I am sure I would not be this bad off if I had gone slower. If I could turn back time, I would surely go a LOT slower! oh well, I seem destined to learn the hard way sometimes anyway the generic DOES come in liquid, the liquid is a one mg per ml dilution. So if you were to take, for example only, 2mgs, you'd be taking 2mls (also called ccs) of the liquid The good thing about the liquid is that you can literally take DROPS of it, if you are scared about what going back on it might do. That's essentially what I have done, I drew up a half of one ml (or cc) into a small syringe and took that- and now, I am very glad I did that, because FOR ME, it worked. Unfortunately no one here can tell you if this will work for you. It might, or might now, but if you do a tiny tiny dose like I did, you will be having a lower risk of things being worse. They may also not get much better on a tiny dose, but I was in such bad shape, I think, that I noticed that it was a big change and a positive one for me. yes I have a bit more nausea and no appetite, but believe me, compared to the intrusive thoughts and panic I had, that's nothing! so you are not able to drive? is it due to anxiety? what is preventing you from showering? I"m not judging, please don't misunderstand, I"m just trying to get a picture of what your symptoms are etc I can't address the ativan, someone else will hopefully be along to help you with that. there's no point in trying to compare yourself to anyone else here, in terms of worse off or better off, etc. We all have our struggles and for each of us, they are difficult, and that's all we need to know. I am sure that others have had similar symptoms, and maybe more or less but you can get thru it. Taking a break from mentoring, please do not message or tag me, thank you! Got some personal stuff to deal with and am not able to give you my full attention. I will remove this reminder when I am back. Keep on swimming, my friends. 😊 pysch med history: 1974 @ age 18 to Oct 2017 (approx 43 yrs total) Drug list: stelazine, haldol, elavil, lithium, zoloft, celexa, lexapro(doses as high as 40mgs), klonopin, ambien, seroquel(high doses), depakote, zyprexa, lamictal- plus brief trials of dozens of other psych meds over the years started lexapro 2002, dose varied from 20mgs to 40mgs. First attempt to get off it was 2007- WD symptoms were mistaken for "relapse". 2013 too fast taper down to 5mg but WD forced me back to 20mgs June of 2105, tapered again too rapidly to 2.5mgs by Dec 2015. Found SA, held at 2.5 mgs til May 2016 when I foolishly "jumped off". felt ok until Sept, then acute WD hit!! reinstated at 0.3mgs in Oct. 2106 Tapered off to zero by Oct. 2017 Doing very well. Nov. 2018 feel 95% healed, age 63 Jan. 2020 feel 100% healed, peaceful and content PRESENT DAYS: Loving life! ❤️ with all it's ups and downs Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted November 1, 2016 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted November 1, 2016 Hi GIWM, So that we are able assist you we really need you to take a bit of time and complete your drug signature. This way we will be able to make suggestions based on your individual situation. Many members get off their drugs too quickly and end up with bad withdrawal symptoms. It is understandable that they don't want to reinstate. Unfortunately, reinstatement of the same drug is the only know way to lessen the withdrawal symptoms. This is because the drug changes the brain. After going back on a small amount of the drug you then stabilise and you can then do a slow 10% taper of the previous dose with a holding period of about 4 weeks. Doing this allows the brain to adapt to not getting as much of the drug. Please do not go back on the last dose you were on as the brain will have already made same adaptations during the time you were off. We can suggest a dose for you to try. Please carefully read Post #1 of the About reinstating and stabilizing to reduce withdrawal symptoms. The longer you leave reinstatement the less chance there is that it will work. Learning as much as you can will help you to make an informed decision. Why taper by 10% of my dosage? Dr Joseph Glenmullen's WD Symptoms Checklist These helped me to understand SA's recommendations: Brain Remodelling Video: Healing From Antidepressants - Patterns of Recovery This may be the link that catnapt wanted to share: Audio: First Aid for Panic (4 minutes) * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Godiswithme Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 Catnapt. I know you aren't judging me. Thank you. I am incapacitated. I don't know how to explain it as I have never felt this way before. The most extreme form of anxiety I have ever experienced. I read a link on this thread that said I basically threw my brain off a cliff. I am going to die, aren't I? Everyone on here is tapering tiny amounts and I cold turkeyed. God please help me. Do I have a chance if I don't reinstate. Opinion? I know you aren't giving me advice. in Aug 2014, prescribed 20 mg of escitalopram. Oct 2014, upped to 30 mg. In January 2016, "doctor" added 2mg of Abilify I had been taking .5 Xanax in AM and PM for a few years Xanax November 23rd, 2016 .25 5 times per day Took .5 Ativan in AM and .5 Ativan in PM 10 hours apart for 2 weeks and 2 days. I stopped Ativan on Nov 4th 2016 I cold turkeyed off escitalopram and Abilify on September 4, 2016 i crosses over to 1 mg of Klonopin in Dec 2016. Since withdrawal, I have occasionally taken 10mg or 20mg propranolol when my heart was pounding uncontrollably Supplements Magnesium, Vitamin C, Natural Calm magnesium drink. Just started 11/16/16 Lactium supplement 167mg at night. Godiswithme: I'm very scared Godiswithme: Xanax taper after cold-turkey of Lexapro and Abilify Jan 2017. Slowly reinstated Lexapro over 4-5 mos to 15mg. Have stayed on that amount. Sept 2017. Started tapering 1mg of Klonopin. As of May 2017, I am at .426 mg of Klonopin split into 2 doses per day. Link to comment
Godiswithme Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 Chessie Cat. Thank you so much. Am I going to die from what I did? Do you think? If I don't reinstate? in Aug 2014, prescribed 20 mg of escitalopram. Oct 2014, upped to 30 mg. In January 2016, "doctor" added 2mg of Abilify I had been taking .5 Xanax in AM and PM for a few years Xanax November 23rd, 2016 .25 5 times per day Took .5 Ativan in AM and .5 Ativan in PM 10 hours apart for 2 weeks and 2 days. I stopped Ativan on Nov 4th 2016 I cold turkeyed off escitalopram and Abilify on September 4, 2016 i crosses over to 1 mg of Klonopin in Dec 2016. Since withdrawal, I have occasionally taken 10mg or 20mg propranolol when my heart was pounding uncontrollably Supplements Magnesium, Vitamin C, Natural Calm magnesium drink. Just started 11/16/16 Lactium supplement 167mg at night. Godiswithme: I'm very scared Godiswithme: Xanax taper after cold-turkey of Lexapro and Abilify Jan 2017. Slowly reinstated Lexapro over 4-5 mos to 15mg. Have stayed on that amount. Sept 2017. Started tapering 1mg of Klonopin. As of May 2017, I am at .426 mg of Klonopin split into 2 doses per day. Link to comment
Godiswithme Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 Does anyone out there think I have a chance of living a normal life if I don't get back on the drug? in Aug 2014, prescribed 20 mg of escitalopram. Oct 2014, upped to 30 mg. In January 2016, "doctor" added 2mg of Abilify I had been taking .5 Xanax in AM and PM for a few years Xanax November 23rd, 2016 .25 5 times per day Took .5 Ativan in AM and .5 Ativan in PM 10 hours apart for 2 weeks and 2 days. I stopped Ativan on Nov 4th 2016 I cold turkeyed off escitalopram and Abilify on September 4, 2016 i crosses over to 1 mg of Klonopin in Dec 2016. Since withdrawal, I have occasionally taken 10mg or 20mg propranolol when my heart was pounding uncontrollably Supplements Magnesium, Vitamin C, Natural Calm magnesium drink. Just started 11/16/16 Lactium supplement 167mg at night. Godiswithme: I'm very scared Godiswithme: Xanax taper after cold-turkey of Lexapro and Abilify Jan 2017. Slowly reinstated Lexapro over 4-5 mos to 15mg. Have stayed on that amount. Sept 2017. Started tapering 1mg of Klonopin. As of May 2017, I am at .426 mg of Klonopin split into 2 doses per day. Link to comment
Godiswithme Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 I don't know how to reply to a post. I am on my phone. in Aug 2014, prescribed 20 mg of escitalopram. Oct 2014, upped to 30 mg. In January 2016, "doctor" added 2mg of Abilify I had been taking .5 Xanax in AM and PM for a few years Xanax November 23rd, 2016 .25 5 times per day Took .5 Ativan in AM and .5 Ativan in PM 10 hours apart for 2 weeks and 2 days. I stopped Ativan on Nov 4th 2016 I cold turkeyed off escitalopram and Abilify on September 4, 2016 i crosses over to 1 mg of Klonopin in Dec 2016. Since withdrawal, I have occasionally taken 10mg or 20mg propranolol when my heart was pounding uncontrollably Supplements Magnesium, Vitamin C, Natural Calm magnesium drink. Just started 11/16/16 Lactium supplement 167mg at night. Godiswithme: I'm very scared Godiswithme: Xanax taper after cold-turkey of Lexapro and Abilify Jan 2017. Slowly reinstated Lexapro over 4-5 mos to 15mg. Have stayed on that amount. Sept 2017. Started tapering 1mg of Klonopin. As of May 2017, I am at .426 mg of Klonopin split into 2 doses per day. Link to comment
Mentor Happy2Heal Posted November 1, 2016 Mentor Share Posted November 1, 2016 Catnapt. I know you aren't judging me. Thank you. I am incapacitated. I don't know how to explain it as I have never felt this way before. The most extreme form of anxiety I have ever experienced. I read a link on this thread that said I basically threw my brain off a cliff. I am going to die, aren't I? Everyone on here is tapering tiny amounts and I cold turkeyed. God please help me. Do I have a chance if I don't reinstate. Opinion? I know you aren't giving me advice. it's ok hon, no you are not going to die. It may feel really horrible but you will not die. your brain can and will heal but there are things you can do that may help it to heal and doing some other things, may not be helpful there are a lot of ppl who went off cold turkey(one or more times), myself included and we are still here. It was not pleasant, that's for sure, but we made it thru it you can make it thru this. the choice to reinstate (or not) is yours. try listening to that first aid for panic audio clip, it is very helpful. I have had times when I would listen to it many times in an hour. take it one minute at a time, do not look too far ahead, and there's no sense looking back, you can't change anything you can only deal with what is happening now I know this is hard, I am going thru it too. but you can make it thru it I can not tell you if reinstating is going to help you or not but from what I've read, that others have written about their experiences with this particular drug, lexapro, reinstating when you are doing this poorly has been helpful I realize reading back that I said I was afraid I would not survive, I need to clarify that. The panic attacks and dark terrifying and horrifying intrusive thoughts FELT so intolerable to me, that my mind was heading towards thinking of wanting to end my life, rather than having to suffer thru this. I didn't know if it would end, and I was feeling very desperate, as you seem to be feeling now. I put a plan in place with a crisis line and a hospital in case I became unsafe, and then I re filled the prescription for the liquid lexapro that I had. I still waited another day or so, hoping that it was just a bad wave that would soon pass, before finally deciding to take a TINY dose of the liquid I am lucky, so far it is working for me. I can't say, no one can say, if it will work for you. but I think you may want to consider it, IF you are getting to a point where you are afraid you may hurt yourself. the withdrawal symptoms by themselves, I do not believe it is possible for those to "kill you". they may feel really really bad, but I don't believe anyone has died from them. there have been some people who found the symptoms so intolerable that they did kill themselves. there are ways to avoid that. you need to take over and find ways to cope with your symptoms It will be hard but you CAN do it!! you can get thru this. remember to breathe, and take only one day, one hour, one minute at a time. do not look too far ahead. that's not going to help you find things that help you, if it's taking a relaxing bath, going for a short walk, listening to soothing music, etc. eat well and avoid caffeine and high sugar foods if you can. or whatever works for you. (you may feel the need for comforting foods) do you have someone you can reach out to, to talk to, to help you with how you are feeling? Taking a break from mentoring, please do not message or tag me, thank you! Got some personal stuff to deal with and am not able to give you my full attention. I will remove this reminder when I am back. Keep on swimming, my friends. 😊 pysch med history: 1974 @ age 18 to Oct 2017 (approx 43 yrs total) Drug list: stelazine, haldol, elavil, lithium, zoloft, celexa, lexapro(doses as high as 40mgs), klonopin, ambien, seroquel(high doses), depakote, zyprexa, lamictal- plus brief trials of dozens of other psych meds over the years started lexapro 2002, dose varied from 20mgs to 40mgs. First attempt to get off it was 2007- WD symptoms were mistaken for "relapse". 2013 too fast taper down to 5mg but WD forced me back to 20mgs June of 2105, tapered again too rapidly to 2.5mgs by Dec 2015. Found SA, held at 2.5 mgs til May 2016 when I foolishly "jumped off". felt ok until Sept, then acute WD hit!! reinstated at 0.3mgs in Oct. 2106 Tapered off to zero by Oct. 2017 Doing very well. Nov. 2018 feel 95% healed, age 63 Jan. 2020 feel 100% healed, peaceful and content PRESENT DAYS: Loving life! ❤️ with all it's ups and downs Link to comment
Godiswithme Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 Hello, is anyone there? in Aug 2014, prescribed 20 mg of escitalopram. Oct 2014, upped to 30 mg. In January 2016, "doctor" added 2mg of Abilify I had been taking .5 Xanax in AM and PM for a few years Xanax November 23rd, 2016 .25 5 times per day Took .5 Ativan in AM and .5 Ativan in PM 10 hours apart for 2 weeks and 2 days. I stopped Ativan on Nov 4th 2016 I cold turkeyed off escitalopram and Abilify on September 4, 2016 i crosses over to 1 mg of Klonopin in Dec 2016. Since withdrawal, I have occasionally taken 10mg or 20mg propranolol when my heart was pounding uncontrollably Supplements Magnesium, Vitamin C, Natural Calm magnesium drink. Just started 11/16/16 Lactium supplement 167mg at night. Godiswithme: I'm very scared Godiswithme: Xanax taper after cold-turkey of Lexapro and Abilify Jan 2017. Slowly reinstated Lexapro over 4-5 mos to 15mg. Have stayed on that amount. Sept 2017. Started tapering 1mg of Klonopin. As of May 2017, I am at .426 mg of Klonopin split into 2 doses per day. Link to comment
Godiswithme Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 Yes. I can talk to my sister and my husband. Thank you for answering. I appreciate it. No one really knows if we will heal or how long. I need to accept that. God help us. in Aug 2014, prescribed 20 mg of escitalopram. Oct 2014, upped to 30 mg. In January 2016, "doctor" added 2mg of Abilify I had been taking .5 Xanax in AM and PM for a few years Xanax November 23rd, 2016 .25 5 times per day Took .5 Ativan in AM and .5 Ativan in PM 10 hours apart for 2 weeks and 2 days. I stopped Ativan on Nov 4th 2016 I cold turkeyed off escitalopram and Abilify on September 4, 2016 i crosses over to 1 mg of Klonopin in Dec 2016. Since withdrawal, I have occasionally taken 10mg or 20mg propranolol when my heart was pounding uncontrollably Supplements Magnesium, Vitamin C, Natural Calm magnesium drink. Just started 11/16/16 Lactium supplement 167mg at night. Godiswithme: I'm very scared Godiswithme: Xanax taper after cold-turkey of Lexapro and Abilify Jan 2017. Slowly reinstated Lexapro over 4-5 mos to 15mg. Have stayed on that amount. Sept 2017. Started tapering 1mg of Klonopin. As of May 2017, I am at .426 mg of Klonopin split into 2 doses per day. Link to comment
Godiswithme Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 Thank you for answering me in Aug 2014, prescribed 20 mg of escitalopram. Oct 2014, upped to 30 mg. In January 2016, "doctor" added 2mg of Abilify I had been taking .5 Xanax in AM and PM for a few years Xanax November 23rd, 2016 .25 5 times per day Took .5 Ativan in AM and .5 Ativan in PM 10 hours apart for 2 weeks and 2 days. I stopped Ativan on Nov 4th 2016 I cold turkeyed off escitalopram and Abilify on September 4, 2016 i crosses over to 1 mg of Klonopin in Dec 2016. Since withdrawal, I have occasionally taken 10mg or 20mg propranolol when my heart was pounding uncontrollably Supplements Magnesium, Vitamin C, Natural Calm magnesium drink. Just started 11/16/16 Lactium supplement 167mg at night. Godiswithme: I'm very scared Godiswithme: Xanax taper after cold-turkey of Lexapro and Abilify Jan 2017. Slowly reinstated Lexapro over 4-5 mos to 15mg. Have stayed on that amount. Sept 2017. Started tapering 1mg of Klonopin. As of May 2017, I am at .426 mg of Klonopin split into 2 doses per day. Link to comment
Mentor Happy2Heal Posted November 1, 2016 Mentor Share Posted November 1, 2016 Yes. I can talk to my sister and my husband. Thank you for answering. I appreciate it. No one really knows if we will heal or how long. I need to accept that. God help us. I'm sorry, I don't believe that is true. we can and DO heal, but as far as how long it takes, well, probably longer than we'd like. but we do heal!! there are plenty of ppl here who have successfully gotten off these drugs you will heal too. Taking a break from mentoring, please do not message or tag me, thank you! Got some personal stuff to deal with and am not able to give you my full attention. I will remove this reminder when I am back. Keep on swimming, my friends. 😊 pysch med history: 1974 @ age 18 to Oct 2017 (approx 43 yrs total) Drug list: stelazine, haldol, elavil, lithium, zoloft, celexa, lexapro(doses as high as 40mgs), klonopin, ambien, seroquel(high doses), depakote, zyprexa, lamictal- plus brief trials of dozens of other psych meds over the years started lexapro 2002, dose varied from 20mgs to 40mgs. First attempt to get off it was 2007- WD symptoms were mistaken for "relapse". 2013 too fast taper down to 5mg but WD forced me back to 20mgs June of 2105, tapered again too rapidly to 2.5mgs by Dec 2015. Found SA, held at 2.5 mgs til May 2016 when I foolishly "jumped off". felt ok until Sept, then acute WD hit!! reinstated at 0.3mgs in Oct. 2106 Tapered off to zero by Oct. 2017 Doing very well. Nov. 2018 feel 95% healed, age 63 Jan. 2020 feel 100% healed, peaceful and content PRESENT DAYS: Loving life! ❤️ with all it's ups and downs Link to comment
Godiswithme Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share Posted November 2, 2016 Yes. I can talk to my sister and my husband. Thank you for answering. I appreciate it. No one really knows if we will heal or how long. I need to accept that. God help us. I'm sorry, I don't believe that is true. we can and DO heal, but as far as how long it takes, well, probably longer than we'd like. but we do heal!! there are plenty of ppl here who have successfully gotten off these drugs you will heal too. Please tell me what longer than we'd like means. Please. Please. in Aug 2014, prescribed 20 mg of escitalopram. Oct 2014, upped to 30 mg. In January 2016, "doctor" added 2mg of Abilify I had been taking .5 Xanax in AM and PM for a few years Xanax November 23rd, 2016 .25 5 times per day Took .5 Ativan in AM and .5 Ativan in PM 10 hours apart for 2 weeks and 2 days. I stopped Ativan on Nov 4th 2016 I cold turkeyed off escitalopram and Abilify on September 4, 2016 i crosses over to 1 mg of Klonopin in Dec 2016. Since withdrawal, I have occasionally taken 10mg or 20mg propranolol when my heart was pounding uncontrollably Supplements Magnesium, Vitamin C, Natural Calm magnesium drink. Just started 11/16/16 Lactium supplement 167mg at night. Godiswithme: I'm very scared Godiswithme: Xanax taper after cold-turkey of Lexapro and Abilify Jan 2017. Slowly reinstated Lexapro over 4-5 mos to 15mg. Have stayed on that amount. Sept 2017. Started tapering 1mg of Klonopin. As of May 2017, I am at .426 mg of Klonopin split into 2 doses per day. Link to comment
Mentor Happy2Heal Posted November 2, 2016 Mentor Share Posted November 2, 2016 Yes. I can talk to my sister and my husband. Thank you for answering. I appreciate it. No one really knows if we will heal or how long. I need to accept that. God help us. I'm sorry, I don't believe that is true. we can and DO heal, but as far as how long it takes, well, probably longer than we'd like. but we do heal!! there are plenty of ppl here who have successfully gotten off these drugs you will heal too. Please tell me what longer than we'd like means. Please. Please. um well, you are feeling unwell now, and you want it that feeling to end, right? so anything longer than than it ending right now, is longer than you'd like. there's really no way to know, hon, but you skipped right over the good news. YOU will heal, it will get better how about working on what you can do right now to feel better? I know it's hard, believe me, I'm going thru it too. it's best to look for things that help you feel better and NOT dwell on how bad it is, or how long it might last. all any one really has is right now as hard as it is, try to live in the moment and do what you can to get thru that. how are you doing reading thru the links that the mods posted? Taking a break from mentoring, please do not message or tag me, thank you! Got some personal stuff to deal with and am not able to give you my full attention. I will remove this reminder when I am back. Keep on swimming, my friends. 😊 pysch med history: 1974 @ age 18 to Oct 2017 (approx 43 yrs total) Drug list: stelazine, haldol, elavil, lithium, zoloft, celexa, lexapro(doses as high as 40mgs), klonopin, ambien, seroquel(high doses), depakote, zyprexa, lamictal- plus brief trials of dozens of other psych meds over the years started lexapro 2002, dose varied from 20mgs to 40mgs. First attempt to get off it was 2007- WD symptoms were mistaken for "relapse". 2013 too fast taper down to 5mg but WD forced me back to 20mgs June of 2105, tapered again too rapidly to 2.5mgs by Dec 2015. Found SA, held at 2.5 mgs til May 2016 when I foolishly "jumped off". felt ok until Sept, then acute WD hit!! reinstated at 0.3mgs in Oct. 2106 Tapered off to zero by Oct. 2017 Doing very well. Nov. 2018 feel 95% healed, age 63 Jan. 2020 feel 100% healed, peaceful and content PRESENT DAYS: Loving life! ❤️ with all it's ups and downs Link to comment
Godiswithme Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share Posted November 2, 2016 Yes. I can talk to my sister and my husband. Thank you for answering. I appreciate it. No one really knows if we will heal or how long. I need to accept that. God help us.I'm sorry, I don't believe that is true.we can and DO heal, but as far as how long it takes, well, probably longer than we'd like. but we do heal!! there are plenty of ppl here who have successfully gotten off these drugs you will heal too. Please tell me what longer than we'd like means. Please. Please. um well, you are feeling unwell now, and you want it that feeling to end, right? so anything longer than than it ending right now, is longer than you'd like. there's really no way to know, hon, but you skipped right over the good news. YOU will heal, it will get better how about working on what you can do right now to feel better? I know it's hard, believe me, I'm going thru it too. it's best to look for things that help you feel better and NOT dwell on how bad it is, or how long it might last. all any one really has is right now as hard as it is, try to live in the moment and do what you can to get thru that. how are you doing reading thru the links that the mods posted? One said I threw my brain off a cliff. I'm confused. I have to read them again. I watched the panic movie. Thank you for answering. in Aug 2014, prescribed 20 mg of escitalopram. Oct 2014, upped to 30 mg. In January 2016, "doctor" added 2mg of Abilify I had been taking .5 Xanax in AM and PM for a few years Xanax November 23rd, 2016 .25 5 times per day Took .5 Ativan in AM and .5 Ativan in PM 10 hours apart for 2 weeks and 2 days. I stopped Ativan on Nov 4th 2016 I cold turkeyed off escitalopram and Abilify on September 4, 2016 i crosses over to 1 mg of Klonopin in Dec 2016. Since withdrawal, I have occasionally taken 10mg or 20mg propranolol when my heart was pounding uncontrollably Supplements Magnesium, Vitamin C, Natural Calm magnesium drink. Just started 11/16/16 Lactium supplement 167mg at night. Godiswithme: I'm very scared Godiswithme: Xanax taper after cold-turkey of Lexapro and Abilify Jan 2017. Slowly reinstated Lexapro over 4-5 mos to 15mg. Have stayed on that amount. Sept 2017. Started tapering 1mg of Klonopin. As of May 2017, I am at .426 mg of Klonopin split into 2 doses per day. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus scallywag Posted November 2, 2016 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted November 2, 2016 GIWM you are obviously posting from a phone. You may find it easier if you use the full "desktop" version of the site. The full desktop version allows you to edit posts rather than sending "one-liners" as well, you can create a signature. Instructions on how to do that are these posts in the Signature thread:Post #8; Post #9 This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.1997-1999 Effexor; 2002-2005 Effexor XR 37.5 mg linear taper, dropping same #beads/week with bad results Cymbalta 60 mg 2012 - 2015; 2016: 20 mg to 7 mg exact doses and dates in this post; 2017: 6.3 mg to 0.0 mg Aug. 12; details here scallywag's IntroductionOnline spreadsheet for dose taper calculations and nz11's THE WORKS spreadsheet Link to comment
Godiswithme Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share Posted November 2, 2016 Thank you so much. in Aug 2014, prescribed 20 mg of escitalopram. Oct 2014, upped to 30 mg. In January 2016, "doctor" added 2mg of Abilify I had been taking .5 Xanax in AM and PM for a few years Xanax November 23rd, 2016 .25 5 times per day Took .5 Ativan in AM and .5 Ativan in PM 10 hours apart for 2 weeks and 2 days. I stopped Ativan on Nov 4th 2016 I cold turkeyed off escitalopram and Abilify on September 4, 2016 i crosses over to 1 mg of Klonopin in Dec 2016. Since withdrawal, I have occasionally taken 10mg or 20mg propranolol when my heart was pounding uncontrollably Supplements Magnesium, Vitamin C, Natural Calm magnesium drink. Just started 11/16/16 Lactium supplement 167mg at night. Godiswithme: I'm very scared Godiswithme: Xanax taper after cold-turkey of Lexapro and Abilify Jan 2017. Slowly reinstated Lexapro over 4-5 mos to 15mg. Have stayed on that amount. Sept 2017. Started tapering 1mg of Klonopin. As of May 2017, I am at .426 mg of Klonopin split into 2 doses per day. Link to comment
PatriciaVP Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Hi there GIWM, I grew up in PA. Such a beautiful state especially this time of year. Sometimes I really miss it. When people say stopping your drug cold turkey is like "throwing your brain off a cliff" it sounds pretty scary. Usually when you throw something off a cliff it's a total loss. Completely unsalvageable. Let me reassure this is not the case here. It's more like one of those movies that surround you and make you feel like you are flying or falling or speeding around a race track when what you are really doing is just sitting back in a comfortable chair looking up at a big dome. The drugs temporarily changes the structure of our brain, and when we remove it suddenly it's like coming into the middle of one of those movies where our perception is extremely distorted. I know the thought of swallowing the awful poison that put you here in the first place may seem ludicrous, but perhaps think of it instead like strapping on a virtual parachute in the middle of the movie to slow the ground that your brain is seeing as rushing up at you. Bringing your perceptions more in line with reality and giving your brain time to sort things out. Whether you decide to reinstate or not, remember this is not your permanent reality. It does get better. Even those who have gone cold turkey have healed and come out on the other side. You are not alone. Peace, love and healing. PatriciaVP@AbleWriterSays My Intro Zoloft 150-200 mg- on and off between 1998 and 2004. Lexapro 40 mg - 2004-2013 30 mg 2013 - August 2015 20 mg August 2015- September 2015 15 mg September 2015 - October 2015 10 mg October 2015 -Nov. 1 2015. Nov. 2015 increased dose to 12.5 mg to stabilize. Dec. 28 2015 11.25 mg March 29, 2016 10 mg. August 1, 2016 9 mg. October 23, 2016 8.1 mg. Nov. 29, 2016 7.5 mg. Feb. 25, 2017 7 mg. April 9, 2017 6.5 mg. June 2017 6 mg. Aug. 2018 5.75 mg March 2019 5.5 mg Apr. 2019 5.25 mg. June 2019 5 mg Sept. 2019 4.75 mg Nov. 2019 4.5 mg Dec. 2019 4.25 April 7 2020 4mg Depakote 1000 mg 2008-2013 750 2013-Dec 2015 500 mg Dec 2015 to Feb 2, 2016. Sopped completely Feb 2 2016. Adderall 40mg 2004-Feb 29, 2016. Feb 29,2016 - reduced Adderall to 20 mg based on pdoc's recommendations. March 29, 2016 - Reduced Adderall to 15 mg. April 30 reduced Adderall to 10 mgs. May 28, 2016 reduced Adderall to 5 mgs.June 8, 2016 stopped taking Adderall due to extreme agitation. Amphetamine 20mg 2008 - 1/16. 1/16 - Stopped Amphetamine completely because pdoc did not renew script. WWW.PSYCHFREE.NET Link to comment
Godiswithme Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share Posted November 2, 2016 Hi there GIWM, I grew up in PA. Such a beautiful state especially this time of year. Sometimes I really miss it. When people say stopping your drug cold turkey is like "throwing your brain off a cliff" it sounds pretty scary. Usually when you throw something off a cliff it's a total loss. Completely unsalvageable. Let me reassure this is not the case here. It's more like one of those movies that surround you and make you feel like you are flying or falling or speeding around a race track when what you are really doing is just sitting back in a comfortable chair looking up at a big dome. The drugs temporarily changes the structure of our brain, and when we remove it suddenly it's like coming into the middle of one of those movies where our perception is extremely distorted. I know the thought of swallowing the awful poison that put you here in the first place may seem ludicrous, but perhaps think of it instead like strapping on a virtual parachute in the middle of the movie to slow the ground that your brain is seeing as rushing up at you. Bringing your perceptions more in line with reality and giving your brain time to sort things out. Whether you decide to reinstate or not, remember this is not your permanent reality. It does get better. Even those who have gone cold turkey have healed and come out on the other side. You are not alone. Peace, love and healing. Thank you so much for your kind response. I am caught between a rock and a hard place. I am barely making it. Yet the thought of taking any more of it is utterly terrifying to me. I went to the family counselor last night. She wanted me to try Prozac and withdraw from that or reinstate on a small dose of generic Lexapro. Of course, talk to my "Doctor first". I know how ridiculous this sounds and I'm embarrassed, but I have such a strong feeling I am going to die? Is this common, do you know? in Aug 2014, prescribed 20 mg of escitalopram. Oct 2014, upped to 30 mg. In January 2016, "doctor" added 2mg of Abilify I had been taking .5 Xanax in AM and PM for a few years Xanax November 23rd, 2016 .25 5 times per day Took .5 Ativan in AM and .5 Ativan in PM 10 hours apart for 2 weeks and 2 days. I stopped Ativan on Nov 4th 2016 I cold turkeyed off escitalopram and Abilify on September 4, 2016 i crosses over to 1 mg of Klonopin in Dec 2016. Since withdrawal, I have occasionally taken 10mg or 20mg propranolol when my heart was pounding uncontrollably Supplements Magnesium, Vitamin C, Natural Calm magnesium drink. Just started 11/16/16 Lactium supplement 167mg at night. Godiswithme: I'm very scared Godiswithme: Xanax taper after cold-turkey of Lexapro and Abilify Jan 2017. Slowly reinstated Lexapro over 4-5 mos to 15mg. Have stayed on that amount. Sept 2017. Started tapering 1mg of Klonopin. As of May 2017, I am at .426 mg of Klonopin split into 2 doses per day. Link to comment
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