Administrator Altostrata Posted March 15, 2019 Administrator Share Posted March 15, 2019 We love you to pieces, pb. How are you doing today? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Moderator brassmonkey Posted March 15, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 15, 2019 Not the subject being discussed, the one playing in your head. For the one bring discussed you just have to walk away. 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
powerback Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 On 3/15/2019 at 5:00 AM, Altostrata said: We love you to pieces, pb. How are you doing today? Hi Alto ,that's a lovely thing to say so thank you ,the feeling is mutual for every human being on SA . Not great the last few days ,today im wiped out with a stomach bug doing the rounds ,my partner had it [7 days and she still not back to base line ] . I never get these bugs so ile see how it progresses .ile knuckle down and rest . Take care. Alcohol free since February 2015 1MG diazepam 4.5MG PROZAC. Link to comment
powerback Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 On 3/14/2019 at 10:25 PM, Flowers said: Thinking of you PB and hoping things change for the better soon. Love and hugs from Flowers xxx You Too flowers ,thanks and take care. Alcohol free since February 2015 1MG diazepam 4.5MG PROZAC. Link to comment
Andie Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Sorry your cross taper has been so rough PB. Current Dose 0.5mcg Clonidine and 1.25 Diazepam PRN for treatment of iatrogenic hypertension. 2010 .Prescribed Pristiq 100 mg in July by GP 2010 .Reduced to 50mg by splitting and weighing. Held at 50mg 2014. Reduced from 50-35 .Held at 35mg. 2017. Taper from 35mg commenced using compounded Desvenlafaxine 2018. 23/06 13.5mg. 21/07 12.5mg. 25/08 11.5mg. 09/2018 10mg. 14/11 11mg (updose) 21/11 -12mg (updose) 2019. Still holding at 12mg and stuck. 2020. January 2019 Prozac Bridge-- Prozac 2.5 to 10mg and Pristiq 23rd Jan 6mg/ 27th Jan 5mg/ 28th Jan 3mg/ 30 Jan 0 Prozac 6th Feb 9.5mg. Vitamin D3 5000iu with K2 Magnesium Glycinate with Glycine and Passionflower 600mg Link to comment
powerback Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share Posted March 17, 2019 28 minutes ago, Andie said: Sorry your cross taper has been so rough PB. HI Andie ,your very kind to say that but I wasn't in a great spot before the bridge ,ive had a little let up on the severity the last 2 days.I just have to wait ,ive surendered alot more to my body saying no. Take care Alcohol free since February 2015 1MG diazepam 4.5MG PROZAC. Link to comment
powerback Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share Posted March 17, 2019 Making a note of the last few days. The frequent urination is shocking ,in the last 2 days im holding no fluids . The stomach bug didn't come to anything serious . I have been a little more relaxed but can be easily pulled out of this by distraction. The crushing fatigue was ok yesterday until 1700 it came on but its been worse. My OCD thoughts are annoying . Ive noticed lately my brain wants to do things quicker than my body alows ,theres quite a conflict/tug of war going on in my brain. Im at a point today im looking forward to relaxing on the couch rather than fighting the fact I cant go out ,its cold out and my body is just not liking it. Ile stick with 1.1ml prozac and crumb of effexor for the time being I think. Alcohol free since February 2015 1MG diazepam 4.5MG PROZAC. Link to comment
Bridgetini Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Hi PB, hope that you are doing a bit better today. Stomach bug and crap weather on top of everything else really does suck for you! I hope that you have some time off over this weekend to recharge a bit. Bridgetini xx Jan 2023: Venlafaxine XR 100 mg, Lorazepam 0.25 mg, Oestradiol 100 micrograms Dec 2022: Venlafaxine XR 100 mg, Lorazepam 0.25 mg. HRT stopped for hysterectomy surgery 5 Dec 22 (potential clotting risk) September 2022: Venlafaxine XR 100 mg, Lorazepam 0.25 mg, Oestradiol 100 micrograms, Progesterone 100 mg. Apologies but I can't remember or find details at the moment, but I slowly reduced Venlafaxine and Lorazepam through 2020-2021-2022. Jan 2022: HRT increased by GP for unknown reason to oestradiol patch 100 microg, progresterone 100 mg June 2021: started HRT (oestradiol patch 50 microg, progresterone 100 mg). August 2020: Made a 16% reduction in Lorazepam at psychiatrist's recommendation (1.25 mg) while holding Venlafaxine at 150 mg. March 2019 - March 2020: Venlafaxine XR tapered from 337.5 mg to 150 mg (60% reduction), while continuing 1.5 mg Lorazepam. March 2016 - January 2019: Mirtazapine taptered to 0, while continuing on 1.5 mg Lorazepam and 375 mg Venlafaxine XR. Feb. 2015: 7.5 mg Mirtazapine + 1.5 mg Lorazepam + 375 mg Venlafaxine. Link to comment
dj2010 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 7 hours ago, powerback said: Ile stick with 1.1ml prozac and crumb of effexor for the time being I think. sounds like a wise move pb, hold for a few months until the effexor withdrawal loses its intensity i think, happy st patricks day 2001 - 2005 prozac, 2001 - 2017 various benzos, mainly diazapem and zanex, 2002 - 2017 olanzapine or seroquel, 2002 -2017 propanolol, 2005 - 2009 venlafaxine 75mg , forced to go cold turkey off venlafaxine as moved Thailand, doctor cut me off and couldn't get it there, severely ill for over 2 years, countered withdrawals with more zanex and seroquel 2014 returned to UK, mainly to get treatment getting off meds doctor advised to taper seroquel over a few weeks, severely ill and bed bed-bound so reinstated it, 2015 tapered seroquel myself slower over a few months, was off it 2 months and was too ill so went on olanzapine, became zombie and too tired to get out of bed, went back on seroquel, very depressed so went back on venlafaxine, didnt work so doctor swapped to zoloft became very agitated so back on venlafaxine June 2016 - felt strong enough to begin tapering again, started what I thought was a slow taper of all meds, 2016 July Not had any alcoholic drink since this date, 2016 October completely off diazepem, 2017 Feb completely off seroquel, 2017 March completely off proponanlol, 2017 April (day before birthday) completely off venlafaxine, OFF ALL MEDS 11/4/2017, was fine for nearly 3 months and then delayed withdrawal hit, supplements taking: turmeric capsules, NiaCel (nicotinamide riboside), Vit B12 sublingual, Vit B3, Vit B6, Vit B1, apple cider vinegar, manuka umf 10 honey, camu camu powder, melatonin when needed, epsom salt baths, juices, smoothies, Intro: http://survivingantidepressants.org/topic/15175-dj2010-off-all-meds-for-3-months-and-been-fine-now-bad-insomnia/ Link to comment
powerback Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share Posted March 17, 2019 30 minutes ago, dj2010 said: sounds like a wise move pb, hold for a few months until the effexor withdrawal loses its intensity i think, happy st patricks day Hi DJ hope your well my friend,happy paddy whackery day to you also ,its the tourists in temple bar [Dublin] I feel sorry for, more than 8 euro a pint .says me the ex binge drinker lol. Take care . Alcohol free since February 2015 1MG diazepam 4.5MG PROZAC. Link to comment
powerback Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share Posted March 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Bridgetini said: Hi PB, hope that you are doing a bit better today. Stomach bug and crap weather on top of everything else really does suck for you! I hope that you have some time off over this weekend to recharge a bit. Bridgetini xx Hi Bridgetini ,thanks for your visit,the fact my body isn't up to anything makes the weather situation ok ,the nicer the weather the worse it is being housebound in my eyes .I see the cold and rain and that makes the decision for me ,so pressure off .silver linings hey . Hope your doing well . Peace and continued healing to you🙏. Alcohol free since February 2015 1MG diazepam 4.5MG PROZAC. Link to comment
Miko789 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Hi Pb, yeh when weather is cold and the mood is bad then its ok to stay in. did you get the yoga rubber band to keep busy.? take care 2011 protracted withdrawal symptoms from Effexor, managed to come off 2013-2015 risperidone consta 50 mg, started tapering from March 2015 to 1,66mg/day and from 02/2015 started seroxat 10mg/day 01/17 Seroxat 2,0mg,olanzapine 5mg,risperidone consta 25mg/every 15days 05/17 Seroxat 1mg,olanzapine 5mg,risp.consta 25mg/every 15days 06/17 Seroxat 2drops,olanzapine 5mg,liquid risperidone2mg 07/17 Seroxat 1 drop,olanzapine 5mg,Risperidone 0mg, 10/17 Seroxat 0mg,olanzapine,5mg,Risperidone 0mg, 12/17 Seroxat 1/2 drop, olanzapine 5mg, 04/18 Olanzapine 1,25mg, 04/18 xanax 0,5mg 24/06/2019 doc said to take 10mg olanzapine for 13days and down to 5mg been taking 10mg for 14 days, 5mg for 8 days and tapered to 3/4quart. 5mg for 14 days, 1/2 for 14 days, 01/08/19 2,5mg 08/2021 5mg olanzapine Supplements Omega 3, Turmeric, Bacopa monneri, Mucuna Pruriens Link to comment
powerback Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share Posted March 18, 2019 15 hours ago, Miko789 said: did you get the yoga rubber band to keep busy.? Ile google this but what is it mate . Alcohol free since February 2015 1MG diazepam 4.5MG PROZAC. Link to comment
dj2010 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 17 hours ago, powerback said: Hi DJ hope your well my friend,happy paddy whackery day to you also ,its the tourists in temple bar [Dublin] I feel sorry for, more than 8 euro a pint .says me the ex binge drinker lol. Take care . I’m well thank you, I’m part Irish, my grandads side of family are from Ireland, I have a Irish second name, used to celebrate with many pints of Guinness, obviously not anymore lol, yeh 8 Euro is criminal, used to be £2.25 a pint when I was drinking years ago How you today? 2001 - 2005 prozac, 2001 - 2017 various benzos, mainly diazapem and zanex, 2002 - 2017 olanzapine or seroquel, 2002 -2017 propanolol, 2005 - 2009 venlafaxine 75mg , forced to go cold turkey off venlafaxine as moved Thailand, doctor cut me off and couldn't get it there, severely ill for over 2 years, countered withdrawals with more zanex and seroquel 2014 returned to UK, mainly to get treatment getting off meds doctor advised to taper seroquel over a few weeks, severely ill and bed bed-bound so reinstated it, 2015 tapered seroquel myself slower over a few months, was off it 2 months and was too ill so went on olanzapine, became zombie and too tired to get out of bed, went back on seroquel, very depressed so went back on venlafaxine, didnt work so doctor swapped to zoloft became very agitated so back on venlafaxine June 2016 - felt strong enough to begin tapering again, started what I thought was a slow taper of all meds, 2016 July Not had any alcoholic drink since this date, 2016 October completely off diazepem, 2017 Feb completely off seroquel, 2017 March completely off proponanlol, 2017 April (day before birthday) completely off venlafaxine, OFF ALL MEDS 11/4/2017, was fine for nearly 3 months and then delayed withdrawal hit, supplements taking: turmeric capsules, NiaCel (nicotinamide riboside), Vit B12 sublingual, Vit B3, Vit B6, Vit B1, apple cider vinegar, manuka umf 10 honey, camu camu powder, melatonin when needed, epsom salt baths, juices, smoothies, Intro: http://survivingantidepressants.org/topic/15175-dj2010-off-all-meds-for-3-months-and-been-fine-now-bad-insomnia/ Link to comment
powerback Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share Posted March 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, dj2010 said: I’m well thank you, I’m part Irish, my grandads side of family are from Ireland, I have a Irish second name, used to celebrate with many pints of Guinness, obviously not anymore lol, yeh 8 Euro is criminal, used to be £2.25 a pint when I was drinking years ago How you today? Not bad today mate,listening to music ,had a cathartic emotional cry [finding sympathy for myself lol],known me the addict ile be wanting to ball cry all day lol. oh great your Irish ,can I have a lend of money since we are related 🤣. A smell of Guinness would put me on a 3 day bender lol.I know I'm an addict now so I can never touch it again .thanks steve61 for all your help with understanding this. Good your well mate ,some day we will get a hike in together, i look forward to this. Alcohol free since February 2015 1MG diazepam 4.5MG PROZAC. Link to comment
thecowisback Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 my physiotherapist gave me one when i injured my shoulder. they're just a strip of latex that you use to stretch and work your muscles. they're really good 👍 Took prozac 40 mg for 20 years. January 2017 started cutting down prozac by 12.5% a week. End of February 2017 completely off prozac and withdrawals began. Currently taking Levothyroxine 75 mcg, Magnesium citrate 200mg,Sage leaf 50mg daily Amlodipine: October 2017 , discontinued 26 Feb 2019; Candesartan: 26 Feb 2019, 4mg. Discontinued magnesium citrate 200mg Apr 3rd 2019 Reinstated prozac: 14 Jan 2019, 1mg; 26 Jan, 1.5mg; 4 Feb, 2mg; 16 Feb, 2.5mg; 2 Mar, 3mg; 5 Mar, 2.5mg, 23 Mar, 3 mg; 6 Apr, 3.5mg, 14 Apr 4mg, 23 Apr 5mg, 10 Jul 8mg, 1 Dec 20mg, 1 Apr 2020 40mg Link to comment
powerback Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share Posted March 18, 2019 Just now, thecowisback said: my physiotherapist gave me one when i injured my shoulder. they're just a strip of latex that you use to stretch and work your muscles. they're really good 👍 Oh I get you now thanks TCIB Alcohol free since February 2015 1MG diazepam 4.5MG PROZAC. Link to comment
dj2010 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, powerback said: Not bad today mate,listening to music ,had a cathartic emotional cry [finding sympathy for myself lol],known me the addict ile be wanting to ball cry all day lol. oh great your Irish ,can I have a lend of money since we are related 🤣. A smell of Guinness would put me on a 3 day bender lol.I know I'm an addict now so I can never touch it again .thanks steve61 for all your help with understanding this. Good your well mate ,some day we will get a hike in together, i look forward to this. Brilliant pb you are sounding like back on the up now, yeh a good cry to release what’s built up will do some good, hike would be good some day, you will be back out on them before you know it enjoy your day cheers 2001 - 2005 prozac, 2001 - 2017 various benzos, mainly diazapem and zanex, 2002 - 2017 olanzapine or seroquel, 2002 -2017 propanolol, 2005 - 2009 venlafaxine 75mg , forced to go cold turkey off venlafaxine as moved Thailand, doctor cut me off and couldn't get it there, severely ill for over 2 years, countered withdrawals with more zanex and seroquel 2014 returned to UK, mainly to get treatment getting off meds doctor advised to taper seroquel over a few weeks, severely ill and bed bed-bound so reinstated it, 2015 tapered seroquel myself slower over a few months, was off it 2 months and was too ill so went on olanzapine, became zombie and too tired to get out of bed, went back on seroquel, very depressed so went back on venlafaxine, didnt work so doctor swapped to zoloft became very agitated so back on venlafaxine June 2016 - felt strong enough to begin tapering again, started what I thought was a slow taper of all meds, 2016 July Not had any alcoholic drink since this date, 2016 October completely off diazepem, 2017 Feb completely off seroquel, 2017 March completely off proponanlol, 2017 April (day before birthday) completely off venlafaxine, OFF ALL MEDS 11/4/2017, was fine for nearly 3 months and then delayed withdrawal hit, supplements taking: turmeric capsules, NiaCel (nicotinamide riboside), Vit B12 sublingual, Vit B3, Vit B6, Vit B1, apple cider vinegar, manuka umf 10 honey, camu camu powder, melatonin when needed, epsom salt baths, juices, smoothies, Intro: http://survivingantidepressants.org/topic/15175-dj2010-off-all-meds-for-3-months-and-been-fine-now-bad-insomnia/ Link to comment
powerback Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share Posted March 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, dj2010 said: Brilliant pb you are sounding like back on the up now, yeh a good cry to release what’s built up will do some good, hike would be good some day, you will be back out on them before you know it enjoy your day cheers Ye ive seen enough to be happy about the last 3 days . Take care mate ,I relive my old hikes in my thoughts ,this is a good sign. Talk soon 🤝. Alcohol free since February 2015 1MG diazepam 4.5MG PROZAC. Link to comment
powerback Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share Posted March 18, 2019 Ive had access today to built up and repressed emotion ,I balled crying and to say its cathartic is an understatement ,the relief in my chest is amazing ,I have access to what others see in me today and what a fire that burns in me .dam I need to remember this . I have access to the sympathy of my struggle rather than the judgment that my critic brings. Anyway this needs noting . Thanks 🙏. this is the song I had on a loop for an hour lol. Alcohol free since February 2015 1MG diazepam 4.5MG PROZAC. Link to comment
direstraits Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 beautiful!❤️🙏 went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.started 10 mgs. Fluoxetine May 25 2021 .Stopped fluoxetine May 2022 at 5 mgs. Link to comment
powerback Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share Posted March 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, direstraits said: beautiful!❤️🙏 Hi D ,I could get used to feeling like this . Thanks 🙏. This Artist is vocal about he's anxiety struggles .the world is waking up to the fact the pressure we put ourselves under creates it [well withdrawl and meds that cause it is a little different ],hopefully others find a way other than meds . .I look forward to slowing down for the rest of my life. Alcohol free since February 2015 1MG diazepam 4.5MG PROZAC. Link to comment
peng Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 On 3/13/2019 at 10:20 AM, apace41 said: Prozac targets primarily serotonin and Effexor targets both serotonin and norepinephrine. At dose of over 150mg Effexor XR, seratonin and norepinephrine targetted. Up to 150mg, only seratonin targetted. That is how I understand it. Thinking of you pb. I know you will think the above point is tedious for yourself in your position of suffering, but I feel it is best to mention it. Maybe someone else will confirm the dose thing? Bless you, pb. Born 1945. 1999 - First Effexor/Venlafaxine. 2016 Withdrawal research. Effexor. 13Jul - 212.5mg; 6Aug - 200.0mg; 24Aug - 187.5mg; 13Sep - 175.0mg; 3Oct - 162.5mg; 26Oct - 150mg 2017 9Jan - 150.00mg; 23Mar - 137.50mg; 24Apr - 125.00mg; 31May - 112.50mg holding; 3Sep - 100.00mg; 20Sep - 93.75mg; 20Oct - 87.5mg; 12Nov - 81.25mg; 13 Dec - 75.00mg 2018 18Jan - 69.1mg; 16Feb - 62.5mg; 16March - 57.5mg (-8%); 22Apr - 56.3mg(-2%); CRASHED - Updose 29May - 62.5mg; Updose - 1Jul - 75.0mg. Updose - 2Aug - 87.5mg. Updose - 27Aug - 100.0mg. Updose - 11Oct 112.5mg. Updose - 6Nov 125.00mg. 2019 Updoses 19 Jan - 150.0mg. 1April - 162.5mg. 24 April - Feeling better - doing tasks, getting outside. 7 May - usual depression questionnaire gives "probably no depression" result. Supps/Vits Omega 3; Chelated Magnesium; Prebiotics/Probiotics, Vit D3. Link to comment
powerback Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 22 hours ago, peng said: At dose of over 150mg Effexor XR, seratonin and norepinephrine targetted. Up to 150mg, only seratonin targetted. That is how I understand it. Thinking of you pb. I know you will think the above point is tedious for yourself in your position of suffering, but I feel it is best to mention it. Maybe someone else will confirm the dose thing? Bless you, pb. Hi peng I hope your well. In regards to the 150mg effexor you quote,im confused how this relates to me ,its around 4 years I was on 75mg let alone 150mg,which I never even took. This information doesn't really help my situation with a very compromised nervous system because of withdrawal ,not in relation to finding my sweet spot medication. Respect and take care mate Alcohol free since February 2015 1MG diazepam 4.5MG PROZAC. Link to comment
powerback Posted March 23, 2019 Author Share Posted March 23, 2019 Im calling myself out today for being a wally brain plonker . I got it into my head on Tuesday and Wednesdays to do a project with a friend,it ended up being more physical than I anticipated ,I was not up to it but I did what I do best and ignored my common sense .im furious with myself now ,im bed ridden in bits,the fatigue in my brain is torture .I have undone months of resting.my mental state is shockingly fragile now. Why am I making such mistakes ,this one is very harsh and my critic is raging at me now ,im paying dearly for this mistake . I don't have the right to come on here and moan about my symptom's when im single handily causing the issue myself . I wont forget this lesson for a long time . I deserve the misery I am now suffering . No sympathy please ,I just wanted to make a note of the biggest mistake of the year by far and maybe of my whole long winded withdrawal process . Alcohol free since February 2015 1MG diazepam 4.5MG PROZAC. Link to comment
dj2010 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 20 minutes ago, powerback said: Im calling myself out today for being a wally brain plonker . I got it into my head on Tuesday and Wednesdays to do a project with a friend,it ended up being more physical than I anticipated ,I was not up to it but I did what I do best and ignored my common sense .im furious with myself now ,im bed ridden in bits,the fatigue in my brain is torture .I have undone months of resting.my mental state is shockingly fragile now. Why am I making such mistakes ,this one is very harsh and my critic is raging at me now ,im paying dearly for this mistake . I don't have the right to come on here and moan about my symptom's when im single handily causing the issue myself . I wont forget this lesson for a long time . I deserve the misery I am now suffering . No sympathy please ,I just wanted to make a note of the biggest mistake of the year by far and maybe of my whole long winded withdrawal process . You will be fine pb, we all make these mistakes although they are not really mistakes more like learning what can do and can’t, our nervous system is a bit like a bottle of fizzy pop, once it gets shaken up it takes a while for all the fiz to go down and to settle, just take it easy and you will be back to baseline soon take care 2001 - 2005 prozac, 2001 - 2017 various benzos, mainly diazapem and zanex, 2002 - 2017 olanzapine or seroquel, 2002 -2017 propanolol, 2005 - 2009 venlafaxine 75mg , forced to go cold turkey off venlafaxine as moved Thailand, doctor cut me off and couldn't get it there, severely ill for over 2 years, countered withdrawals with more zanex and seroquel 2014 returned to UK, mainly to get treatment getting off meds doctor advised to taper seroquel over a few weeks, severely ill and bed bed-bound so reinstated it, 2015 tapered seroquel myself slower over a few months, was off it 2 months and was too ill so went on olanzapine, became zombie and too tired to get out of bed, went back on seroquel, very depressed so went back on venlafaxine, didnt work so doctor swapped to zoloft became very agitated so back on venlafaxine June 2016 - felt strong enough to begin tapering again, started what I thought was a slow taper of all meds, 2016 July Not had any alcoholic drink since this date, 2016 October completely off diazepem, 2017 Feb completely off seroquel, 2017 March completely off proponanlol, 2017 April (day before birthday) completely off venlafaxine, OFF ALL MEDS 11/4/2017, was fine for nearly 3 months and then delayed withdrawal hit, supplements taking: turmeric capsules, NiaCel (nicotinamide riboside), Vit B12 sublingual, Vit B3, Vit B6, Vit B1, apple cider vinegar, manuka umf 10 honey, camu camu powder, melatonin when needed, epsom salt baths, juices, smoothies, Intro: http://survivingantidepressants.org/topic/15175-dj2010-off-all-meds-for-3-months-and-been-fine-now-bad-insomnia/ Link to comment
thecowisback Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 good analogy dj2010! we're all guilty over overpushing ourselves when we have a better day, it's human nature. just rest up and try to remember to go a bit slower next time. look at the positives - you enjoyed doing a project with a friend which is good for your mental health. you've knocked yourself sideways but in a good way so i'm sure you haven 't undone months of resting and healing. keep the thoughts of the good you've done foremost in your brain and rest up until you get your strength back mentally and physically. be nice to yourself - you did good!!! 👍👍👍 Took prozac 40 mg for 20 years. January 2017 started cutting down prozac by 12.5% a week. End of February 2017 completely off prozac and withdrawals began. Currently taking Levothyroxine 75 mcg, Magnesium citrate 200mg,Sage leaf 50mg daily Amlodipine: October 2017 , discontinued 26 Feb 2019; Candesartan: 26 Feb 2019, 4mg. Discontinued magnesium citrate 200mg Apr 3rd 2019 Reinstated prozac: 14 Jan 2019, 1mg; 26 Jan, 1.5mg; 4 Feb, 2mg; 16 Feb, 2.5mg; 2 Mar, 3mg; 5 Mar, 2.5mg, 23 Mar, 3 mg; 6 Apr, 3.5mg, 14 Apr 4mg, 23 Apr 5mg, 10 Jul 8mg, 1 Dec 20mg, 1 Apr 2020 40mg Link to comment
powerback Posted March 23, 2019 Author Share Posted March 23, 2019 26 minutes ago, dj2010 said: You will be fine pb, we all make these mistakes although they are not really mistakes more like learning what can do and can’t, our nervous system is a bit like a bottle of fizzy pop, once it gets shaken up it takes a while for all the fiz to go down and to settle, just take it easy and you will be back to baseline soon take care Hi Mate ,I hope so ,im actually in a suicidal mood with anger and judgement at myself .I'm furious . Thanks for your wise wisdom . 🙏 Alcohol free since February 2015 1MG diazepam 4.5MG PROZAC. Link to comment
powerback Posted March 23, 2019 Author Share Posted March 23, 2019 1 hour ago, thecowisback said: good analogy dj2010! we're all guilty over overpushing ourselves when we have a better day, it's human nature. just rest up and try to remember to go a bit slower next time. look at the positives - you enjoyed doing a project with a friend which is good for your mental health. you've knocked yourself sideways but in a good way so i'm sure you haven 't undone months of resting and healing. keep the thoughts of the good you've done foremost in your brain and rest up until you get your strength back mentally and physically. be nice to yourself - you did good!!! 👍👍👍 Thanks TCIB for your visit .if I was nice to myself I would of said no to doing it .I totally disrespected the situation im in at the moment ,the same kind of project a year ago would of been ok .ive affectively put myself house bound because of it. Totall ego controlled me ,simple as. I didnt enjoy it ,the whole time I was saying what in the world are you doing . The analogy I come up with at the moment is "the fizzy pop bottle has gone through the shredder ",I akin what I did to going out on a drinking bender and I can never do the drinking for the rest of my life because I would never forgive myself. I will put them 2 dates on the wall in a frame so I never forget ,im so furious, im even going to say that I was using power tools ,who in the world uses dangerous power tools while in withdrawl .I could have easily made a mistake and had a skill saw jam into my leg ,I actually nearly did .I got home that night and thought of the incident again and it gave me a fright.just the thought jolted my nervous system. Keep yourself well TCIB and take care . Alcohol free since February 2015 1MG diazepam 4.5MG PROZAC. Link to comment
SkyStreamer Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Hi @powerback ! Sorry to hear about your situation. I was in the exact same spot about 3 weeks ago. Tons of anger and rage, and a lot of self-criticism & discouragement. Just want to encourage you not to forget all the amazing things you've already accomplished. You've been alcohol free since 2015. That's incredible!! And, you're now only on a small dose of AD. You're in a good position - despite this rough patch. Don't forget all the good you've already done. We tend to forget this during dark times. I'm rooting for you! Don't give up! 09/2011- 01/2014: 10mg Cipralex / 02/2014: increased to 15mg Cipralex 02/2014 - 10/2016: 15mg Cipralex / 11/2016: reduced to 12.5mg Cipralex (over 2 weeks) 12/2016: reduced to 10mg Cipralex (over 2 weeks) / 01/2017 - 09/2018: 10mg Cipralex 10/2018 - 11/2018: reduced gradually to 7.5mg Cipralex / 12/2018: found SA & first learned about the 10% taper method 2019: 6.9mg / 2020: 5.1mg (0.064-0.065) 06/01/21/2021: 4.8mg (0.061-0.062) / 06/01/21/2021-04/15/2022: 3.8mg (0.048) / 04/16-07-10/15/2022 : 2.8mg (0.036mg) / 10/15/2022-04/27/2023: 2.4mg (0.031mg) / 04/27/2023-06/05/2023: 2.4mg (0.030mg) / 06/05/2023- 11/04/2023: 1.7mg (0.022mg) - Extremely bad WD; UPDOSED 03/01/2023- 04/03/2023: 2.0mg (0.025mg); UPDOSED AGAIN 04/04/2023: 2.3mg (0.028-0.029mg) Please Note: I am not a medical professional. Consult a knowledgeable medical professional when making decisions about your medical care. Link to comment
powerback Posted March 23, 2019 Author Share Posted March 23, 2019 1 minute ago, SkyStreamer said: Hi @powerback ! Sorry to hear about your situation. I was in the exact same spot about 3 weeks ago. Tons of anger and rage, and a lot of self-criticism & discouragement. Just want to encourage you not to forget all the amazing things you've already accomplished. You've been alcohol free since 2015. That's incredible!! And, you're now only on a small dose of AD. You're in a good position - despite this rough patch. Don't forget all the good you've already done. We can tend to forget this when darkness envelops us. I'm rooting for you! Don't give up! Thanks SS ,im in a very dangerous mood ,im trying not go near the darkness but I'm besides myself with annoyance.im getting worse as the days go on ,I want to check myself into hospital and be put asleep . Thanks for your visit and take care.do the opposite of what I do and you'll be fine lol .I obviously carry around a self-destruct mechanism my whole life . Alcohol free since February 2015 1MG diazepam 4.5MG PROZAC. Link to comment
powerback Posted March 23, 2019 Author Share Posted March 23, 2019 thanks for the support ,im off to distract myself ,my raging self critic is already saying im just attention seeking .but I needed to call myself out on these 2 days to try prevent it from happening again this year. Alcohol free since February 2015 1MG diazepam 4.5MG PROZAC. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted March 23, 2019 Administrator Share Posted March 23, 2019 Not sure what a wally brain plonker is, but you must tell your raging self-critic to stuff it. You tried to help a friend and overdid the strenuous exercise. This is not in any way like going on a bender. Just let your body and brain rest. A little physical challenge might have moved the ball along. (Next time, not as strenuous.) This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
powerback Posted March 23, 2019 Author Share Posted March 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Altostrata said: Not sure what a wally brain plonker is, but you must tell your raging self-critic to stuff it. You tried to help a friend and overdid the strenuous exercise. This is not in any way like going on a bender. Just let your body and brain rest. A little physical challenge might have moved the ball along. (Next time, not as strenuous.) Lol ,irish slang for an idiot. It was fairly physical ,its work I was used to before the worst of withdrawal. Im calling myself out on this because I dont have the right to waste you and the moderators time by going and doing such work .its set me back hugely. Thanks Alto ,take care. Alcohol free since February 2015 1MG diazepam 4.5MG PROZAC. Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted March 23, 2019 Administrator Share Posted March 23, 2019 Not a waste of time -- I've added "wally brain plonker" to my vocabulary. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
powerback Posted March 23, 2019 Author Share Posted March 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Altostrata said: Not a waste of time -- I've added "wally brain plonker" to my vocabulary. LOL ,its good to dumb down your vocabulary every now and then so your welcome ha . Thanks and take care Alto. Alcohol free since February 2015 1MG diazepam 4.5MG PROZAC. Link to comment
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