Tulip52 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 1 hour ago, This2shallpass said: Hi everyone. I need some guidance or anyone’s thoughts on this. I destabilized my system with alcohol in July of 2023 after being stable for 3 years. I had symptoms for several months coming in windows and waves, I felt like I turned a corner in February until I got covid. A lot of my old symptoms were intensified. I tried going to acupuncture and I felt like it was helping me until he did too much 3 weeks ago, which stimulated me and I’ve been severely suffering ever since. this whole time I have not changed my dose of Prozac which i was going to start tapering last year. I don’t know if what I’m suffering is still a destabilized nervous system, Long covid, or if from the beginning, this was my Prozac starting to poop out or turning on me. can anyone give me their thoughts? I’m suffering severely. Thank you so much. A few months ago I had a few beers with friends and paid dearly for quite a while after… won’t be doing that again. I also had covid twice and each time I felt that it put me right back at the beginning symptoms of withdrawing. If you think about it, stress increases the stress hormone cortisol. Anytime we add stress to an already strained nervous system it takes a while for the cortisol to lower. What has helped me the most is staying hydrated. I have atleast one Gatorade zero a day and use magnesium oil on my legs. The magnesium oil eases pain in my muscles from my imioramine withdrawals, rubbed on my calves helps a lot with restless legs and also calms my anxiety some. 94-2000 Prozac, 2000-2001 zoloft 2001-2003 paxil, 2002 1 mg klonopin 2003-2004 effexor, ct klonopin, in hospital put on Seroquel & lexapro , 2005 Ct lexapro, in the hospital again, imipramine 250mg, 2009-2010 weaned off seroquel, 2016-17tapered imipramine to 150, 2017-19 100 mg, 2020 jumped to 50 mg a week later went back up to 60. 11/22 56 mg 12-22 50mg 4/5/23 - 47mg 4/16 - 40 mg 6/27/23-35mg, 4/15/24 33mg 1/20 1 mg ropinirol 3/21 ropinirol 2 mg 4/23 Ozempic .25, 6/26/23 .37mg 12/1/23 .39mg, 4/24 40mg 1/24 1mg clonidine Supplements: boron, diatomaceous earth, cream of tartar and Celtic sea salt, transdermal magnesium oil Link to comment
Tulip52 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 Another thing, once my cortisol is up I have to be super careful even with exercise. Too much can have me down for a few days. Be gentle with yourself and inch your way back up… you’ve got this! Love 94-2000 Prozac, 2000-2001 zoloft 2001-2003 paxil, 2002 1 mg klonopin 2003-2004 effexor, ct klonopin, in hospital put on Seroquel & lexapro , 2005 Ct lexapro, in the hospital again, imipramine 250mg, 2009-2010 weaned off seroquel, 2016-17tapered imipramine to 150, 2017-19 100 mg, 2020 jumped to 50 mg a week later went back up to 60. 11/22 56 mg 12-22 50mg 4/5/23 - 47mg 4/16 - 40 mg 6/27/23-35mg, 4/15/24 33mg 1/20 1 mg ropinirol 3/21 ropinirol 2 mg 4/23 Ozempic .25, 6/26/23 .37mg 12/1/23 .39mg, 4/24 40mg 1/24 1mg clonidine Supplements: boron, diatomaceous earth, cream of tartar and Celtic sea salt, transdermal magnesium oil Link to comment
This2shallpass Posted April 28 Author Share Posted April 28 5 hours ago, Onmyway said: Hi @This2shallpass You destabilised yourself with alcohol (happens), no indication it was poopout. I think you need to give your body a break and not try anything new for a while. Our instinct is to try to change things when they're difficult but in withdrawal we need stability instead. Let your body do its thing. Are you trying Claire Weekes' methods? I’m not, but I will look into tonight. I’ve been to acupuncture in the past and I really believe it helped stabilize me the first withdrawal. I guess I’m too sensitive now? 2010- Celexa 20 mg 2012-lexapro 20mg 2015- lexapro 30mg October 2016- tried a too fast taper of lexapro and completely crashed. I reinstated 10mg after 3 months and it worked. December 2016- started to wean off lexapro with liquid and got off in April of 2018 got pregnant in June of 2018 and remained off lexapro no withdrawal symptoms. february 2019- right after I gave birth I started having withdrawal symptoms March 2019- reinstated 10mg lexapro, it made me very sick May 2019- did a successful Prozac bridge and immediately felt better. currently stabilized on 20mg Prozac Link to comment
This2shallpass Posted April 28 Author Share Posted April 28 5 hours ago, Tulip52 said: Another thing, once my cortisol is up I have to be super careful even with exercise. Too much can have me down for a few days. Be gentle with yourself and inch your way back up… you’ve got this! Love Thank you @Tulip52 I appreciate your support. how long did it talk for you to feel better after covid? I’m concerned I have long covid and this isn’t my regular setback. 2010- Celexa 20 mg 2012-lexapro 20mg 2015- lexapro 30mg October 2016- tried a too fast taper of lexapro and completely crashed. I reinstated 10mg after 3 months and it worked. December 2016- started to wean off lexapro with liquid and got off in April of 2018 got pregnant in June of 2018 and remained off lexapro no withdrawal symptoms. february 2019- right after I gave birth I started having withdrawal symptoms March 2019- reinstated 10mg lexapro, it made me very sick May 2019- did a successful Prozac bridge and immediately felt better. currently stabilized on 20mg Prozac Link to comment
This2shallpass Posted April 28 Author Share Posted April 28 @Onmyway is it common to have new symptoms? During this setback I’ve never experienced muscle twitches or pots like symptoms, but after covid and this acupuncture I’m experiencing pots and muscle twitches all over my body. 2010- Celexa 20 mg 2012-lexapro 20mg 2015- lexapro 30mg October 2016- tried a too fast taper of lexapro and completely crashed. I reinstated 10mg after 3 months and it worked. December 2016- started to wean off lexapro with liquid and got off in April of 2018 got pregnant in June of 2018 and remained off lexapro no withdrawal symptoms. february 2019- right after I gave birth I started having withdrawal symptoms March 2019- reinstated 10mg lexapro, it made me very sick May 2019- did a successful Prozac bridge and immediately felt better. currently stabilized on 20mg Prozac Link to comment
Moderator Onmyway Posted April 29 Moderator Share Posted April 29 @This2shallpass Covid is known to cause POTs symptoms. And so is withdrawal. They basically both destabilize the nervous system and POTs is due to autonomic nervous system issues. Also new symptoms come and go. Last year out of nowhere I had severe palpitations- skipped heartbeats. After much testing etc. things were OK and they went away on their own. There is a thread on acupuncture here. Maybe it will help? I know nothing about it. My first recovery from Covid (pre-vaccination, old variants) took over 3 months. My POTs doctor (I don't have POTs but a milder postural hypotension) is convinced it is the result of Covid. But everything has gotten better with time. Rest and stability as much as possible is what's needed. "Nothing so small as a moment is insurmountable, and moments are all that we have. You have survived every trial and tribulation that life has thrown at you up until this very instant. When future troubles come—and they will come—a version of you will be born into that moment that can conquer them, too." - Kevin Koenig I am not a doctor and this should not be considered medical advice. You can use the information and recommendations provided in whatever way you want and all decisions on your treatment are yours. In the next few weeks I do not have a lot of capacity to respond to questions. If you need a quick answer pls tag or ask other moderators who may want to be tagged. Aug 2000 - July 2003 (ct, 4-6 wk wd) , citalopram 20 mg, xanax prn, wellbutrin for a few months, trazodone prn Dec 2004 - July 2018 citalopram 20 mg, xanax prn (rarely used) Aug 2018 - citalopram 40 mg (self titrated up) September 2018 - January 2019 tapered citalopram - 40/30/20/10/5 no issues until a week after reaching 0 Feb 2019 0.25 xanax - 0.5/day (3 weeks) over to klonopin 0.25 once a day to manage severe wd March 6, reinstated citalopram 2.5 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 mg for sleep 2-3 times a week Apr 1st citalopram 2.0 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 once a week (off by 4/14/19- no tapering) citalopram (liquid) 4/14/19 -1.8 mg, 5/8/19 - 1.6 mg, 7/27/19 -1.5 mg, 8/15/19 - 1.35, 2/21/21 - 1.1 (smaller drops in between), 6/20/21 - 1.03 mg, 8/7/21- 1.025, 8/11/21 - 1.02, 8/15/21 - 1.015, 9/3/21 - 0.925 (fingers crossed!), 10/8/21 - 0.9, 10/18/21 - 0.875, 12/31/21 - 0.85, 1/7/22 - 0.825, 1/14/22 - 0.8, 1/22/22 - 0.785, 8/18/22 - 0.59, 12/15/2022 - 0.48, 2/15/22 - 0.43, 25/07/23 - 0.25 (mistake), 6/08/23 - 0.33mg Supplements: magnesium citrate and bi-glycinate Link to comment
Tulip52 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 10 hours ago, This2shallpass said: Thank you @Tulip52 I appreciate your support. how long did it talk for you to feel better after covid? I’m concerned I have long covid and this isn’t my regular setback. It took a few weeks for my energy to come back 94-2000 Prozac, 2000-2001 zoloft 2001-2003 paxil, 2002 1 mg klonopin 2003-2004 effexor, ct klonopin, in hospital put on Seroquel & lexapro , 2005 Ct lexapro, in the hospital again, imipramine 250mg, 2009-2010 weaned off seroquel, 2016-17tapered imipramine to 150, 2017-19 100 mg, 2020 jumped to 50 mg a week later went back up to 60. 11/22 56 mg 12-22 50mg 4/5/23 - 47mg 4/16 - 40 mg 6/27/23-35mg, 4/15/24 33mg 1/20 1 mg ropinirol 3/21 ropinirol 2 mg 4/23 Ozempic .25, 6/26/23 .37mg 12/1/23 .39mg, 4/24 40mg 1/24 1mg clonidine Supplements: boron, diatomaceous earth, cream of tartar and Celtic sea salt, transdermal magnesium oil Link to comment
This2shallpass Posted Friday at 02:30 PM Author Share Posted Friday at 02:30 PM Hi everyone. Still really struggling. Last night my daughter woke me up in the middle of the night and I I started scrolling my phone and I saw a spider on my pillow I gasped and tried to grab it but it wasn’t there. I’m freaking out that I’m going to start hallucinating and go into psychosis. I have really bad OCD surrounding this. anyone have anything similar? 2010- Celexa 20 mg 2012-lexapro 20mg 2015- lexapro 30mg October 2016- tried a too fast taper of lexapro and completely crashed. I reinstated 10mg after 3 months and it worked. December 2016- started to wean off lexapro with liquid and got off in April of 2018 got pregnant in June of 2018 and remained off lexapro no withdrawal symptoms. february 2019- right after I gave birth I started having withdrawal symptoms March 2019- reinstated 10mg lexapro, it made me very sick May 2019- did a successful Prozac bridge and immediately felt better. currently stabilized on 20mg Prozac Link to comment
Alfred1977 Posted Saturday at 10:32 AM Share Posted Saturday at 10:32 AM 19 hours ago, This2shallpass said: Hi everyone. Still really struggling. Last night my daughter woke me up in the middle of the night and I I started scrolling my phone and I saw a spider on my pillow I gasped and tried to grab it but it wasn’t there. I’m freaking out that I’m going to start hallucinating and go into psychosis. I have really bad OCD surrounding this. anyone have anything similar? I think, when you are woken up in the middle of the night or are sleepy, things like this happen. If you have slept well, are wide awake and things like this happen, then it's probably a glitch in the matrix😉. 2001 - ~2003 Paroxetine, quit cold turkey 2005 - Dez. 2023 Venlafaxine, most of the time 75mg, for about 4 years 37,5mg Dez 2023 - 03/13/2024 quitting Venlafaxine (too fast, skipping doses) since 04/07/2024 Venlafaxine 12,5mg 04/17/2024 Venlafaxine 25mg 4/29/24 until 5/4/24: Trimipramine, starting at 5mg going down to zero over 5 days supplements: 500mg magnesium, 100mg aspirin and melatonin spray all taken before sleep (ca. 10pm) First they sell an addictive drug as harmless and then they leave you alone dosing fractions of miligrams correctly or plunging into the abyss. Link to comment
Moderator Onmyway Posted Saturday at 10:53 AM Moderator Share Posted Saturday at 10:53 AM 20 hours ago, This2shallpass said: Hi everyone. Still really struggling. Last night my daughter woke me up in the middle of the night and I I started scrolling my phone and I saw a spider on my pillow I gasped and tried to grab it but it wasn’t there. I’m freaking out that I’m going to start hallucinating and go into psychosis. I have really bad OCD surrounding this. anyone have anything similar? Could the spider have just walked away? they are pretty fast In-between-sleep states are weird as Alfred has said - wouldn't think much of it. Finally, even if you did hallucinate and even if it wasn't a withdrawal symptom, hallucinating isn't the end of the world. Lots of people live good fulfilling lives like that - it is not always scary. It is more common than you think and than we are led to believe. https://www.hearing-voices.org/#content omw "Nothing so small as a moment is insurmountable, and moments are all that we have. You have survived every trial and tribulation that life has thrown at you up until this very instant. When future troubles come—and they will come—a version of you will be born into that moment that can conquer them, too." - Kevin Koenig I am not a doctor and this should not be considered medical advice. You can use the information and recommendations provided in whatever way you want and all decisions on your treatment are yours. In the next few weeks I do not have a lot of capacity to respond to questions. If you need a quick answer pls tag or ask other moderators who may want to be tagged. Aug 2000 - July 2003 (ct, 4-6 wk wd) , citalopram 20 mg, xanax prn, wellbutrin for a few months, trazodone prn Dec 2004 - July 2018 citalopram 20 mg, xanax prn (rarely used) Aug 2018 - citalopram 40 mg (self titrated up) September 2018 - January 2019 tapered citalopram - 40/30/20/10/5 no issues until a week after reaching 0 Feb 2019 0.25 xanax - 0.5/day (3 weeks) over to klonopin 0.25 once a day to manage severe wd March 6, reinstated citalopram 2.5 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 mg for sleep 2-3 times a week Apr 1st citalopram 2.0 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 once a week (off by 4/14/19- no tapering) citalopram (liquid) 4/14/19 -1.8 mg, 5/8/19 - 1.6 mg, 7/27/19 -1.5 mg, 8/15/19 - 1.35, 2/21/21 - 1.1 (smaller drops in between), 6/20/21 - 1.03 mg, 8/7/21- 1.025, 8/11/21 - 1.02, 8/15/21 - 1.015, 9/3/21 - 0.925 (fingers crossed!), 10/8/21 - 0.9, 10/18/21 - 0.875, 12/31/21 - 0.85, 1/7/22 - 0.825, 1/14/22 - 0.8, 1/22/22 - 0.785, 8/18/22 - 0.59, 12/15/2022 - 0.48, 2/15/22 - 0.43, 25/07/23 - 0.25 (mistake), 6/08/23 - 0.33mg Supplements: magnesium citrate and bi-glycinate Link to comment
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