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phenylbot: 6 months in Nardil / phenelzine withdrawal


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@phenylbot my dreams haven't subsided even after so long time. Because of it I feel so tired.

2017 october--2018 march->(6 month) fluoxetine 20,30 mg-->cold turkey= after 2 month semen leakage

2018 july---2018 Aug-->(24 days) fluoxetine 20 mg --> cold turkey = vivid dreams begin

2018 december 2019 Jan-->(1 month) Amitriptyline 25--> cold turkey
--------++++--horror of drugs begins. Taking one after another and cold turkey-------+++------------------
2019 May--2019 May--> (12 days) Lexapro cold turkey

2019 May--2019 august -->(3 month)Cobazam 10 mg +amitriptyline 25 mg --> clobazam cold turkey

----2019 october ---> went cold turkey amitriptyline 25 mg.

2019 october--2020 Jan -->(3 months) duloxetine cymbalta 30mg --->cold turkey

2020 jan-2020 Apr--> (3 months) paroxetine 25 mg --> Cold turkey

2020 July--2021 Jan--> (6 months) amitriptyline 50 mg ,75 mg,100 mg ,125 mg -> cold turkey

2021 jan--2021 May--> (4 months) imipramine 75 mg -->cold turkey

2021 may-2021 Aug--> (3 months) nortriptyline 25 mg --> cold turkey== still semen leakage and vivid dream

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Well... I'm still alive. Done a lot of exploring on the web and found an article that validated inner akathisia. Seems arbitrary that I would need this validation but when ya think yer going crazy the mind wants an explanation. I applied for disability and was declined. Drs. report said that I had depression and refused meds. That's a kick in the head. I really regret having put trust in drs. and this is a tough lesson learned. My sleep has gotten worse again. I wake after an hour and not sure if I sleep anymore through the night. My mind seems to dream while I lay there awake. So weird. Anhedonia is severe and I have a hard time knowing what to do with myself. So nervous all the time (even at home alone). Trying to walk daily although each small accomplishment is a huge chore. Don't feel I've improved and maybe a bit worse. Gut is still extremely tense, neck shoulders and back feel very fatigued. I'm still very sensitive to noise, light and most television. These things ramp up the weird fear feeling and this rarely goes away. Only augments and diminishes. It's been such a long  time. I fear a lot of this is permanent. Will be talking to a pdoc this week to see what he has to say. Don't imagine it will do much good. Sorry I haven't posted for a while. Wanted to wait for improvements. Still hoping. I get really upset when I see the price of homes now as it means I'll never be able to live in my city of origin again. Makes me homesick. Sold my house for 170 000 15 yrs. ago. It's now worth 750 000. This brings me intense emotional pain. I now live in what I call a tear down in a small farm town that is about 50 yrs. behind the times. No resources and nothing to do. I know I'm feeling sorry for myself but at Home | Antidepressant Risks | United Kingdom

least I'm feeling. Here's a link to the info re: inner aka Hope you're improving @DataGuy

 

  • 1992-2020-Nardil altered between 45 and 60 mgs
  • March 2020 fast 1 month taper from 45 mg to zero
  • July 2020 Venlafaxine xr 37.5 for 2 days-kindled stopped
  • August 2020 Sertraline 25 mg for 2 days kindled stopped
  • two weeks later nardil 3.5 mg for 5 days kindled stopped
  • Tried to reinstate nardil  3 more times over next 3 months @ 3.5 mg. Always kindled
  • October 2020 seroquel low dose one night for sleep no thanks
  • February 2021 clonazepam .25 mg. intermittently for 6 weeks total of 6 tablets used
  • Quit caffeine drinking decaf
  • Smoking half a pack to a full pack a day
  • currently taking no supplements as have cause kindling in the past
  • currently take no meds letting my nervous system stabilize
  • Trialed 15 mg. nardil daily for 3 days stopped 11/18/2021
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Glad you are still alive and happy you found some validation. Inner akathisia is most definitely a real condition. I will respond more a bit later, just trying to organize my life a bit better right now. All I will say is that you write wonderfully about this, and I hope you seriously think about writing a book, journal or media article about it : ). It's a sad state of affairs medicine has left us in, and they deserve to be exposed. 

Remeron - 2004-2005 (bad withdrawal)

Clonazepam - 2005-2018 (jumped around March)

Olanzapine - 2014- late 2017

Domperidone - 2008-2018

Many drugs in between including Lexapro, other benzos and z-drugs.

Still suffering post-withdrawal from Clonazepam (Klonopin), Olanzapine and Domperidone. 

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I'm sorry you haven't improved much, @phenylbot. But remember you have had a bunch of setbacks caused by attempts at new meds / reinstatements. I don't think the general anesthesia for the cancer screening was very helpful either. Hopefully can avoid any unnecessary stuff like that in the future. If we just leave your system alone, give it food and water and exercise, you should see some improvement. 

 

I would not feel too bad about selling your home. Many people are in this situation. No one can reliably predict asset prices. There are only a handful of people on the planet who can consistently make above market returns buying and selling assets like stocks, bonds, real estate etc., and these people only do it by guessing slightly better than the average what will go up and go down. Most of it is explained by the efficient market hypothesis and the fact that it is difficult to predict the future, never mind the future where you have 1000s of variables involved. 

 

It might be that living in a small farm town is a good thing right now. The air should be clean, lots of space to exercise, not too many people to deal with when you don't feel like it. I often wish I were living in a more isolated space. It is difficult to go for a walk or run here without running into hordes of people, who I often want to avoid. 

 

Excellent that you found a resource which validated inner akathisia. It is definitely a thing. You can also have "outer" akathisia without the inner distress. I think most people would prefer that type. 

 

I have finally moved to a new place and am just getting settled. The move itself was pretty stressful. Haven't really slept well since I moved in, although I don't think it has much to do with the place or the environment. Just a wave kicked off by the stress of moving and the last few months of living in the crappy environment I was in before. Luckily the new place is much nicer.

 

If you'd like someone to talk to your doctor for you, I'd be happy to do it. It is pretty outrageous that you were denied disability. I would file a complaint with the oversight board. 

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Remeron - 2004-2005 (bad withdrawal)

Clonazepam - 2005-2018 (jumped around March)

Olanzapine - 2014- late 2017

Domperidone - 2008-2018

Many drugs in between including Lexapro, other benzos and z-drugs.

Still suffering post-withdrawal from Clonazepam (Klonopin), Olanzapine and Domperidone. 

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How are you doing @phenylbot? I have a busy day at work this week, taking a first aid course and working a couple more days than usual. Sleep has been not too much different, but I did have a night recently where I slept about 6 hours straight, which is the most hours I have gotten in a row in the last 4 years. So that not bad.

Remeron - 2004-2005 (bad withdrawal)

Clonazepam - 2005-2018 (jumped around March)

Olanzapine - 2014- late 2017

Domperidone - 2008-2018

Many drugs in between including Lexapro, other benzos and z-drugs.

Still suffering post-withdrawal from Clonazepam (Klonopin), Olanzapine and Domperidone. 

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