Shellbell Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) I’m really really struggling lately. Suffering akathesia. Depression. Suicidal thoughts. It’s overwhelming and horrific. It’s been 13 months since this started and it doesn’t seem to be improving. My mind just won’t shut off with the negative ruminating. I feel there isn’t any way out of this. And it kills me this is my life. Just needed a place to vent my thoughts. Thank you for listening Edited July 10, 2021 by Gridley 5-28-20 given cymbalta. Had bad reaction. Stopped immediately. 6-20-20 stopped vicodin after 5 years. Suffered akathesia. 7-20-20 to 11-13-20 mirtazapine. On 7.5 tapered for 8 weeks jumped off at 1.5 11/20 to Feb 3. .25 klonopin, tapered 4 weeks. Jumped off at .0935 present - med free. Still suffering from akathesia, insomnia,depression and anxiety melatonin 1mg. Magnesium 400mg daily Vicodin one week. Stopped 12-5-21 temezapam prn sonata sleeping pill. Prn tried kratom for one week 1-15-22 - symptoms - visual issues, dizziness, severe brain fog, suicidal ideations Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted July 10, 2021 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) Welcome to SA, Shellbell. Thank you for completing your drug signature. I'm sorry you're feeling so bad. The symptoms you list in your post and drug signature are typical of psychiatric drug withdrawal. The good news is that you will heal, but we can't give you a timeline of when this will happen. Everyone is different. Several factors in your drug history, either individually but more likely in combination, come into play, including the adverse reaction to Cymbalta (the symptoms an adverse reaction are very similar to those of withdrawal), withdrawal from the Vicodin, the fast taper off Mirtazapine and likely benzo withdrawal as well. The vast majority of doctors know nothing about withdrawal from psychiatric drugs, and don't believe it exists. Our experience here with thousand of members has been the opposite. So that you have a better idea of what you're experiencing, here is some information on withdrawal and the healing process. Protracted Withdrawal or PAWS (post-acute withdrawal ... What is withdrawal syndrome. Daily Checklist of Antidepressant Withdrawal Symptoms (PDF) The Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization When we take psychiatric medications, the CNS (central nervous system) responds by making changes over the months and years we take the drug(s). When the medication is discontinued, the CNS has to undo all the changes it made. Rebuilding the neurotransmitter production and reactivating the receptor and transporter cells takes time -- during that rebuilding process symptoms occur. These explain the healing process really well. Brain Remodelling Video: Healing From Antidepressants - Patterns of Recovery Insomnia is one of the most common withdrawal symptoms. Here are some links to help you deal with it. Tricks and tips to fall asleep faster http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2017/02/16/tips-tricks-fall-asleep-faster.aspx?utm_source=dnl&utm_medium=email&utm_content=art1&utm_campaign=20170216Z1&et_cid=DM133787&et_rid=1889748952 This link contains helpful information, including insomnia and also non-drug coping skills. Important topics about symptoms, including sleep problems Some members have found Melatonin helpful with insomnia. Melatonin for sleep It's best to start at a very low dosage, such as .25mg, and gradually increase if needed to the lowest effective dose. Anxiety is another very common withdrawal symptom. Here are some tips. Audio: How to Recover from Anxiety - Dr Claire Weekes VIDEO: Peace from Nervous Suffering - Claire Weekes (1 hour) (http://sendvid.com/vgquc1dg) Anxiety Stuff - all kinds of stuff about anxiety attacks and things that help … 10 minute Restorative Yoga for Relaxation | Up the wall I've found the last link about the restorative yoga pose to be very helpful with withdrawal anxiety. Changing the channel is a helpful technique for dealing with ruminations. "Change the channel" - dealing with cognitive symptoms ... We don't recommend a lot of supplements on SA, as many members report being sensitive to them due to our over-reactive nervous systems, but two supplements that we do recommend are magnesium and omega 3 (fish oil). Many people find these to be calming to the nervous system. Magnesium, nature's calcium channel blocker Omega-3 fatty acids (fish oil) Add in one at a time and at a low dose in case you do experience problems. Get supplements that are single ingredient (not mixed with other types of supplements). This is your Introduction topic, where you can ask questions and connect with other members. We're glad you found your way here. Edited July 10, 2021 by Gridley Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of April 1: 6.8mg Taper is 91% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
Shellbell Posted July 11, 2021 Author Share Posted July 11, 2021 Thank you for replying. I could really use some support. Things have been extremely difficult. Not sure I’m going to make it much longer 5-28-20 given cymbalta. Had bad reaction. Stopped immediately. 6-20-20 stopped vicodin after 5 years. Suffered akathesia. 7-20-20 to 11-13-20 mirtazapine. On 7.5 tapered for 8 weeks jumped off at 1.5 11/20 to Feb 3. .25 klonopin, tapered 4 weeks. Jumped off at .0935 present - med free. Still suffering from akathesia, insomnia,depression and anxiety melatonin 1mg. Magnesium 400mg daily Vicodin one week. Stopped 12-5-21 temezapam prn sonata sleeping pill. Prn tried kratom for one week 1-15-22 - symptoms - visual issues, dizziness, severe brain fog, suicidal ideations Link to comment
Shellbell Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 @Gridley how can I get extra support here? 5-28-20 given cymbalta. Had bad reaction. Stopped immediately. 6-20-20 stopped vicodin after 5 years. Suffered akathesia. 7-20-20 to 11-13-20 mirtazapine. On 7.5 tapered for 8 weeks jumped off at 1.5 11/20 to Feb 3. .25 klonopin, tapered 4 weeks. Jumped off at .0935 present - med free. Still suffering from akathesia, insomnia,depression and anxiety melatonin 1mg. Magnesium 400mg daily Vicodin one week. Stopped 12-5-21 temezapam prn sonata sleeping pill. Prn tried kratom for one week 1-15-22 - symptoms - visual issues, dizziness, severe brain fog, suicidal ideations Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted July 12, 2021 Mentor Share Posted July 12, 2021 @Shellbell Hi, I am sorry you are so much pain. Please take a deep breathe and tell yourself you can do this. You are stronger than you think. You will make it‼️ You made it through yesterday, all you have to make it through today and worry about tomorrow , tomorrow‼️ There is a lot of information here on SA that will help you. I know depression is a horrible symptom of WD. I suffer from it too. Reach out here to other members. Read some other members into's on the forums page. There are a lot of new and older members all looking for support. Start a connection to a few. Always remember you are not alone! Post as much as you need. The success stories are good for encouragement I'm hear is you need to talk 2 https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Shellbell Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 @Greatful thank you so much for reaching out. It means so much to me. I have spoken to a member here who has been supportive. It's just been excruciating this weekend and I honestly just don't know what to do anymore. The akathesia being the worst symptom. I can't handle it much longer to be hones. It is just too much for me.... thank you again. I truly appreciate it. 5-28-20 given cymbalta. Had bad reaction. Stopped immediately. 6-20-20 stopped vicodin after 5 years. Suffered akathesia. 7-20-20 to 11-13-20 mirtazapine. On 7.5 tapered for 8 weeks jumped off at 1.5 11/20 to Feb 3. .25 klonopin, tapered 4 weeks. Jumped off at .0935 present - med free. Still suffering from akathesia, insomnia,depression and anxiety melatonin 1mg. Magnesium 400mg daily Vicodin one week. Stopped 12-5-21 temezapam prn sonata sleeping pill. Prn tried kratom for one week 1-15-22 - symptoms - visual issues, dizziness, severe brain fog, suicidal ideations Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted July 12, 2021 Mentor Share Posted July 12, 2021 @Shellbell Can you tell me a little bit about your akathesia? Do you have support with you now? 1 https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Shellbell Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 @Greatful my akathesia is severe inner doom. Inner agitation. Suicidal thoughts. Skin hot. Causes depression really bad. My mind is convinced I will never get better my husband is here. But he mostly gets annoyed and frustrated when I try to talk to him. I have two therapists I speak to weekly. Which helps a little. I try and go to work but sometimes I am unable. I just feel hopeless and desperate. I don’t see this getting any better thanks for listening 5-28-20 given cymbalta. Had bad reaction. Stopped immediately. 6-20-20 stopped vicodin after 5 years. Suffered akathesia. 7-20-20 to 11-13-20 mirtazapine. On 7.5 tapered for 8 weeks jumped off at 1.5 11/20 to Feb 3. .25 klonopin, tapered 4 weeks. Jumped off at .0935 present - med free. Still suffering from akathesia, insomnia,depression and anxiety melatonin 1mg. Magnesium 400mg daily Vicodin one week. Stopped 12-5-21 temezapam prn sonata sleeping pill. Prn tried kratom for one week 1-15-22 - symptoms - visual issues, dizziness, severe brain fog, suicidal ideations Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted July 12, 2021 Mentor Share Posted July 12, 2021 @Shellbell I wasn't sure if you had the akathesia that makes you want to move all the time. I have times were I feel very restless and tense, very tense. My brain and body will feel very intense. I feel like I need to run or bolt but at the same time I am so intense I feel so tight I can't move. Is there anything that relieves the inter agitation. Can you go out for a walk, even if it's just around the block? 13 months is a long time. You are a strong woman to endure it that long. Have you had any windows . Does the depression get lighter at different times of the day? Are you getting sleep? Please hang in there Keep talking it helps, let it out. I'll listen. Have you tried to meditate? I know it as helped me. Lay down on your bed or couch, put you hands on your stomach, close your eyes and breath, bring your mind to your breath and feel your stomach go up and down.(sometimes I say up down or in out) (just breathe like you normally do) Your thoughts will drift and that okay, gently bring your mind back to your breath. Try list for a few minutes, if you can you can do it longer. Oh, Tell yourself your thoughts are just that thoughts. They can't hurt you. Don't fight the thought, let it be and move your mind to something else. Look at something, a flower, picture anything to move your thoughts. I have told myself that this is WD thoughts, not mine. Have you looked at any of the Symptoms & Self-care forum. There is some good threads on how to cope with symptoms. https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Shellbell Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 @Greatful I try and meditate every day.but sometimes it just doesn't help. My symptoms change all the time. Akathesia the past two days really bad. Last week it was the depression. I just can't catch a break. I was sleeping ok for awhile but not too good the past couple days. This is so horrifying. Never suffered mental trauma before I was given the Cymbalta for back pain only. Had akathesia reaction to that. And it's been hell ever since. I just so lost and alone. I only see one way out and it's not good Thank you for listening and reaching out to me. I really do appreciate it 5-28-20 given cymbalta. Had bad reaction. Stopped immediately. 6-20-20 stopped vicodin after 5 years. Suffered akathesia. 7-20-20 to 11-13-20 mirtazapine. On 7.5 tapered for 8 weeks jumped off at 1.5 11/20 to Feb 3. .25 klonopin, tapered 4 weeks. Jumped off at .0935 present - med free. Still suffering from akathesia, insomnia,depression and anxiety melatonin 1mg. Magnesium 400mg daily Vicodin one week. Stopped 12-5-21 temezapam prn sonata sleeping pill. Prn tried kratom for one week 1-15-22 - symptoms - visual issues, dizziness, severe brain fog, suicidal ideations Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted July 12, 2021 Mentor Share Posted July 12, 2021 @Shellbell It is good that you meditate everyday. Sometimes it is hard for me to, but I feel like at least I am resting and training my body and mind to relax. It is typical for symptoms to change and morph into different symptoms. Weekends tend to be harder for me. Remember, you are not alone. Yes it does feel like that at times. Can you get out with friends or family. I sit on my covered front porch, listen to the birds sing and hear the wind blow through the trees. I have my computer with me if I want to look through SA or talk with other members. I try to walk 6 or so days a week. It hard some days but it does help with anxiety and get you out in nature. Are you finding little things to do to distract yourself. Have you tried Magnesium? I take Magnesium Glycinate. It helps to relax my anxiety. How about Omega 3 https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted July 12, 2021 Mentor Share Posted July 12, 2021 @ShellbellI am going to call it a night. Hang in there and I will check in with you tomorrow morning Here is a hug t🤗 1 https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted July 12, 2021 Mentor Share Posted July 12, 2021 @Shellbell Good morning how are you doing? https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Shellbell Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 I feel everyday is hell on earth. I’m beyond horrified that this is my life now. I no longer want to live this way 5-28-20 given cymbalta. Had bad reaction. Stopped immediately. 6-20-20 stopped vicodin after 5 years. Suffered akathesia. 7-20-20 to 11-13-20 mirtazapine. On 7.5 tapered for 8 weeks jumped off at 1.5 11/20 to Feb 3. .25 klonopin, tapered 4 weeks. Jumped off at .0935 present - med free. Still suffering from akathesia, insomnia,depression and anxiety melatonin 1mg. Magnesium 400mg daily Vicodin one week. Stopped 12-5-21 temezapam prn sonata sleeping pill. Prn tried kratom for one week 1-15-22 - symptoms - visual issues, dizziness, severe brain fog, suicidal ideations Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted July 12, 2021 Mentor Share Posted July 12, 2021 @Shellbell Are you alone? Can you call someone to be with you? Tell me what is going on. Depression? Anxiety? Restlessness? You did jump off some strong meds back in a few months ago. You are in some sever WD Paws. Please read this. It is about a woman who recovered from benzos. Altostrata equates it to any meds that change your brain. It tell how your brain is repairing itself. Click on the title and read. Michael Priebe has some clips on you tube. "The Lovely Grind" He is recovered from Paxil and xanax. His clips are short and he has several on different topic in WD. 1 https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Shellbell Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 I’m currently at work trying to make it another day. It’s getting harder and harder each day. I will take a look at those things you suggested. My akathesia isn’t getting better. Which causes the depression and suicidal thoughts. I just so lost and defeated 5-28-20 given cymbalta. Had bad reaction. Stopped immediately. 6-20-20 stopped vicodin after 5 years. Suffered akathesia. 7-20-20 to 11-13-20 mirtazapine. On 7.5 tapered for 8 weeks jumped off at 1.5 11/20 to Feb 3. .25 klonopin, tapered 4 weeks. Jumped off at .0935 present - med free. Still suffering from akathesia, insomnia,depression and anxiety melatonin 1mg. Magnesium 400mg daily Vicodin one week. Stopped 12-5-21 temezapam prn sonata sleeping pill. Prn tried kratom for one week 1-15-22 - symptoms - visual issues, dizziness, severe brain fog, suicidal ideations Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted July 12, 2021 Mentor Share Posted July 12, 2021 Check back with me when you get home Hang in there https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted July 13, 2021 Mentor Share Posted July 13, 2021 @ShellbellHow are you doing?☺️ https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Shellbell Posted July 13, 2021 Author Share Posted July 13, 2021 @Greatful I’m barely hanging on. Suffering debilitating fatigue. Dizziness. Blurry vision. On top of everything else. I can’t catch a break. It’s just to much for me to handle. Thinking this can go on for years has me so sad 5-28-20 given cymbalta. Had bad reaction. Stopped immediately. 6-20-20 stopped vicodin after 5 years. Suffered akathesia. 7-20-20 to 11-13-20 mirtazapine. On 7.5 tapered for 8 weeks jumped off at 1.5 11/20 to Feb 3. .25 klonopin, tapered 4 weeks. Jumped off at .0935 present - med free. Still suffering from akathesia, insomnia,depression and anxiety melatonin 1mg. Magnesium 400mg daily Vicodin one week. Stopped 12-5-21 temezapam prn sonata sleeping pill. Prn tried kratom for one week 1-15-22 - symptoms - visual issues, dizziness, severe brain fog, suicidal ideations Link to comment
mva96 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 @Shellbellhey, im right there with you with the inner akathisia doom/horror/terror. Its awful but we will make it through. Hang in there. Started Lexapro 5mg Mid March 2020 Came off Completely September 2020 Hospitalised september 2021 Slowly worked up to 50mg lamictal and 60mg Prozac reduced to 20mg Prozac September 2021 Holding 20mg Prozac and 50mg Lamictal for a good while to stabilise. November 2021 Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted July 13, 2021 Mentor Share Posted July 13, 2021 @Shellbell Were you able to work today? I wish I could take away some of your pain. What kind of coping skills have you tried? Are you able to sit outside and hear the sounds of nature? If you are tired take a blanket and lay on the ground focus on what's going on around you. Can you go for a short walk? Distract, distract yourself You will make it through this. You will have to dig deep within yourself and find the strength to move forward. I know it is very painful, but your mind is very powerful, if you use it positively it will help ease some of your pain. You are stronger then you think, you have held up this long. Have you read any of the success stories? Did you look at any of suggestions I sent you. Do not get stuck in your thoughts, you are not thinking clearly right now. Thoughts are just thoughts they can't hurt you. Don't fight them, acknowledge them and then distract yourself by moving, looking at something flower, trees, if you are already doing something refocus on that. It is the reaction to your symptoms not the symptoms that are causing you the pain. As hard as it is you must dig deep♥️ https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Shellbell Posted July 13, 2021 Author Share Posted July 13, 2021 @mva96 thank you for your reply to me. I honestly don't think I am going to make it out of this alive. It's just too much 5-28-20 given cymbalta. Had bad reaction. Stopped immediately. 6-20-20 stopped vicodin after 5 years. Suffered akathesia. 7-20-20 to 11-13-20 mirtazapine. On 7.5 tapered for 8 weeks jumped off at 1.5 11/20 to Feb 3. .25 klonopin, tapered 4 weeks. Jumped off at .0935 present - med free. Still suffering from akathesia, insomnia,depression and anxiety melatonin 1mg. Magnesium 400mg daily Vicodin one week. Stopped 12-5-21 temezapam prn sonata sleeping pill. Prn tried kratom for one week 1-15-22 - symptoms - visual issues, dizziness, severe brain fog, suicidal ideations Link to comment
Shellbell Posted July 13, 2021 Author Share Posted July 13, 2021 @Greatful I honestly don't have any coping skills. I try meditation. I was able to work today. My vision is all messed up lately and think the agitation makes it worse. Which causes more agitation I had surgery 5 weeks ago and am wondering if that made everything worse with the anesthesia and pain meds they gave me. I don't know. I am scared to take a vitamin, scared to drink a cup of coffee. Scared when I have a damn bite of ice cream. It's absolutely ridiculous. my mind just won't stop the constant loop and it drives me nuts. If I could just make my mind stop thinking about everything I think it would really help. But it's just stuck and has been for the past 12 months. 5-28-20 given cymbalta. Had bad reaction. Stopped immediately. 6-20-20 stopped vicodin after 5 years. Suffered akathesia. 7-20-20 to 11-13-20 mirtazapine. On 7.5 tapered for 8 weeks jumped off at 1.5 11/20 to Feb 3. .25 klonopin, tapered 4 weeks. Jumped off at .0935 present - med free. Still suffering from akathesia, insomnia,depression and anxiety melatonin 1mg. Magnesium 400mg daily Vicodin one week. Stopped 12-5-21 temezapam prn sonata sleeping pill. Prn tried kratom for one week 1-15-22 - symptoms - visual issues, dizziness, severe brain fog, suicidal ideations Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted July 14, 2021 Mentor Share Posted July 14, 2021 @Shellbell Have you symptoms gotten worse after your surgery? I bet you are having a set back from that. I have read people will have a set back after getting work done at he dentist. Did you have any antibiotics? I can relate to being afraid to eat anything, drink coffee, it is pretty pathetic how we get paranoid because we don't want to feel worse. Maybe you could try Magnesium Glycinate. Or people take Epson salt baths, to help with anxiety. I take magnesium glycinate about 400mg a day. I split open a 200mg capsule and pour about half the amount into a glass of water and drink. I do this about 4 times a day. It is better to spread magnesium throughout the day. If you could start with 50mg for a few days and see how it goes. Most of the time I feel a difference in my anxiety. Are you still getting sleep? https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Shellbell Posted July 14, 2021 Author Share Posted July 14, 2021 I do take magnesium 400 b4 bed. I also take 1mg of melatonin every night. I get about 5 to 7 hours of sleep. I feel the akathesia got worse after my surgery. Refused to take antibiotics or the benzo they wanted to give me. Only took 5 pain pills because I was scared. And I might need another surgery here pretty soon. So I’m so worried about that as well. it’s just not ever going to get better. I’m stuck in a **** ton of suck and I can’t get out. I feel there is no hope anymore. My mind is too damaged 5-28-20 given cymbalta. Had bad reaction. Stopped immediately. 6-20-20 stopped vicodin after 5 years. Suffered akathesia. 7-20-20 to 11-13-20 mirtazapine. On 7.5 tapered for 8 weeks jumped off at 1.5 11/20 to Feb 3. .25 klonopin, tapered 4 weeks. Jumped off at .0935 present - med free. Still suffering from akathesia, insomnia,depression and anxiety melatonin 1mg. Magnesium 400mg daily Vicodin one week. Stopped 12-5-21 temezapam prn sonata sleeping pill. Prn tried kratom for one week 1-15-22 - symptoms - visual issues, dizziness, severe brain fog, suicidal ideations Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted July 14, 2021 Mentor Share Posted July 14, 2021 @Shellbell Spread your magnesium throughout the day. Your brain is not damaged. Please read some of the success stories. How were you symptoms before surgery? Can you get some good Omega 3s that are high in DHA and EPA they recommend a high dose of that. It is really good for your brain You must try and change your mind set. Is there someone who can go for a walk with you. Try to distract yourself. You must dig deep and accept where you are at right now and fight to move forward. It has to come from with in. You can find the courage and strength, you have already come this far. I am pulling for you https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Shellbell Posted July 14, 2021 Author Share Posted July 14, 2021 Akathesia has been horrible for the past 5 days. The panic is debilitating. I can’t do this anymore. I’m not capable I feel I’ve gotten worse and worse instead of better. Had a decent day last Friday and that was it. The suicidal thoughts are overwhelming me. And I’m terrified 5-28-20 given cymbalta. Had bad reaction. Stopped immediately. 6-20-20 stopped vicodin after 5 years. Suffered akathesia. 7-20-20 to 11-13-20 mirtazapine. On 7.5 tapered for 8 weeks jumped off at 1.5 11/20 to Feb 3. .25 klonopin, tapered 4 weeks. Jumped off at .0935 present - med free. Still suffering from akathesia, insomnia,depression and anxiety melatonin 1mg. Magnesium 400mg daily Vicodin one week. Stopped 12-5-21 temezapam prn sonata sleeping pill. Prn tried kratom for one week 1-15-22 - symptoms - visual issues, dizziness, severe brain fog, suicidal ideations Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted July 14, 2021 Mentor Share Posted July 14, 2021 @Shellbell 1 hour ago, Shellbell said: Had a decent day last Friday and that was it. Wait a minuet, You had a decent day on Friday. That does tell me and it should tell you that you can and are healing💥 Have you tried journaling daily so you can track your days and when you are feeling down you can look back and see there was days that you were doing okay. Are you at work? Did you get out for a walk yesterday or today? Walks will help with the restlessness. You will also feel better about yourself, you will be taking steps to help yourself. Have you tried a weighted blanket for snuggling or on your bed. I love mine, it really helped when my anxiety was high and when I felt restless. I took were ever I was, sitting on my recliner, laying on the couch, and I still sleep with it as my blanket. We all have very trying and scary days and even weeks, you will have to find ways to cope and accept. Time is all we have, this process can not be rushed. You will only make it harder if you fight it each step of the way❣️ https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted July 14, 2021 Mentor Share Posted July 14, 2021 @@Shellbell Here is a thread about akathisia. I did not read the whole thing yet, but I thought it might help you feel not so alone. Please read https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted July 14, 2021 Mentor Share Posted July 14, 2021 @Shellbell Here is another one on changing the channel Click on the title https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted July 14, 2021 Mentor Share Posted July 14, 2021 @Shellbell How are you doing? https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
Shellbell Posted July 14, 2021 Author Share Posted July 14, 2021 @Greatful Praying for god to take me home. 5-28-20 given cymbalta. Had bad reaction. Stopped immediately. 6-20-20 stopped vicodin after 5 years. Suffered akathesia. 7-20-20 to 11-13-20 mirtazapine. On 7.5 tapered for 8 weeks jumped off at 1.5 11/20 to Feb 3. .25 klonopin, tapered 4 weeks. Jumped off at .0935 present - med free. Still suffering from akathesia, insomnia,depression and anxiety melatonin 1mg. Magnesium 400mg daily Vicodin one week. Stopped 12-5-21 temezapam prn sonata sleeping pill. Prn tried kratom for one week 1-15-22 - symptoms - visual issues, dizziness, severe brain fog, suicidal ideations Link to comment
Mia1 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Hi Shellbell, I’m stopping by to offer my support and encouragement that you will get better. I know this can feel so scary and hopeless but if you are willing to put in the work you can greatly reduce the mental and physical pain you are experiencing. I’m going to share with you the things that have helped not only me but others on this journey. The single most thing that can help you right now is acceptance. It’s identifying your physical symptoms and emotional state and simply saying okay, this is what’s happening, since I can’t change anything I will accept things as they are. I will accept myself as I am right now. And you stop thinking about it. When you think about it, keep reminding yourself that you are okay and give yourself permission to stop thinking about it. It’s your resistance to your symptoms that’s causing your suffering, not the actual symptoms. Change your relationship to your symptoms, change your suffering. Keep practicing this, it will get easier with time. I also find that finding the meaning in the suffering can help you with acceptance. For me, it has been an incredible journey of self love and discovery. So when I have symptoms I know it’s just part of the process, I don’t fight it. Be mindful what you are telling yourself. Imagine your best friend came to you with these concerns. Would you tell her that it was hopeless and that she was never going to make it? Learn to be your best friend, learn how to love yourself. Please be patient and kind to yourself, you need and deserve that right now.💗 I’m going to recommend that you continue your meditation practice even if you feel like it’s not helping because it is and long term it will help with your anxiety. It has so many other benefits but for right now just try to keep doing it. I’m going to share a healing meditation I have been doing. This will help you with acceptance and I believe if you do it every day you will see remarkable results. You are okay right now, you are just scared. And I know that after not feeling well for so long you can start to get discouraged. But there’s a reason we go on medication and once we get off we have to start working on these issues. It can be done and you already have the strength to do it. I’m here for you and happy to help in any way I can. I’m sending you love and light 💓🙏 Completely drug free 11/26/22 🎉 Supplements: Magnesium citrate: 250 mg; Fish oil: 1200 mg “When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.” - Victor Frankl Link to comment
Shellbell Posted July 15, 2021 Author Share Posted July 15, 2021 @Mia1 thank you for your support and suggestions. I try so hard to tell myself those things. But the mental anguish of akathesia is just too much to handle most times. I was given cymbalta for back pain. Have never had depression or anxiety before. It’s crazy ridiculous. did you experience akathesia yourself? I will try that meditation tonight while I try to sleep thank you for your kindness 5-28-20 given cymbalta. Had bad reaction. Stopped immediately. 6-20-20 stopped vicodin after 5 years. Suffered akathesia. 7-20-20 to 11-13-20 mirtazapine. On 7.5 tapered for 8 weeks jumped off at 1.5 11/20 to Feb 3. .25 klonopin, tapered 4 weeks. Jumped off at .0935 present - med free. Still suffering from akathesia, insomnia,depression and anxiety melatonin 1mg. Magnesium 400mg daily Vicodin one week. Stopped 12-5-21 temezapam prn sonata sleeping pill. Prn tried kratom for one week 1-15-22 - symptoms - visual issues, dizziness, severe brain fog, suicidal ideations Link to comment
Mia1 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 I’m happy you are going to start the meditation, it is going to teach you acceptance and help you to focus off your symptoms. Yes, I’ve had varying degrees of akathesia during my journey, acceptance has been my one constant relief. I’m going to suggest you start a gratitude journal. When you wake in the morning write a couple things you are grateful for, even if it’s getting out of bed. Before you go to bed write a couple things you were grateful for during the day. This helps to retrain your brain to start focusing on the positive aspects of life. You have been in w/d for a while and we want to break you out of the habit of negative thinking. When you notice you are being negative with self talk stop and reframe your thought into something positive. So if you tell yourself “I’m never going to make it” stop and then tell yourself instead “ I’m so strong to be able to do this, I know I’m getting better every day.” You’ve got this, you just need to take that first step out of the darkness. Completely drug free 11/26/22 🎉 Supplements: Magnesium citrate: 250 mg; Fish oil: 1200 mg “When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.” - Victor Frankl Link to comment
Mentor Greatful Posted July 15, 2021 Mentor Share Posted July 15, 2021 @Shellbell Sounds like you have something to try tonight. I have learned a lot from @Mia1. She has learned a lot about acceptance and is more than happy to share her insights into this. Small baby steps and you will start to see the light at the end of the tunnel. https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/ 1995? Prozac, tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015 Kindled Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016 ended back on Prozac and Lamictal 200mg 5/2020 thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg Prozac down to 3mg. Crashed 12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct 1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct 2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg. Became hypo manic 2/1 6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25 25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg. 2/24 100mg 4/9 75mg 4/21 37.5 2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr 3/3 100mg 3/17 150mg side effects ct 4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg 4/14 7.5mg 4/30 10mg 5/10 7.5mg 2021/ 5/16 5mg Lexapro 37.5 Lamictal 25mg trazadone, xanax .0625mg 3x a day Lexapro Taper> Sept/01/2021 4.90mg> Sept/25 4.75mg> Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid 4.2mg (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg> 2/24 3.8mg slow taper to Aug/12/2022 2.04mg 2023> 2mg, 1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024 0 Lamictal taper 4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22- 0 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg July 2023 0 Xanax 0.0625 3 x a day, 2023> 0.042 3x a day Supplements Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC Link to comment
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