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9 hours ago, Frogie said:

@jeffelmexicano

 

You will want to taper by 10% a month on the lorazepam. Do you have a scale? I can give you some information on using a scale to do this.

 


Using a scale to weigh and measure doses

 

 

I will try to handle when I need to start ? 

2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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17 hours ago, jeffelmexicano said:

 take 

1,25 mg at 12 am 

1,25 mg at 5 pm 

2,25 mg at 8 pm 

where should I start

mod told me 10% less each motnh 

but Idk how should I start he told me 

to start from the 12 am dose 

but how 

I have a pharmacy that can make the cuts 

or should I change to Valium like Ashton manual ? I’m already in wd cos I skipped one dose 

about a month ago 

im also taking queriapine 

ok thanks guys 

 

@jeffelmexicano Please note I moved this post from the benzo forum to here on your intro/update thread. Please continue posting here so all of your information is in one place. Thank you. 

 

 

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18 hours ago, jeffelmexicano said:

or should I change to Valium like Ashton manual ? I’m already in wd cos I skipped one dose 

about a month ago 

When I began my taper, I was forced to switch from Lorazepam to Valium because I couldn't get Lorazepam.  Otherwise, I would have stayed with Lorazepam.  My nervous system did better with Lorazepam.  

 

Advantages of switch to Valium:

1. Valium has a long half-life, so you only have to take one dose a day

2. Because the doses of Valium are much larger than Lorazepam (10mg Valium = 1mg Lorazepam) it's easier to make your dose if using a scale

 

Disadvantages of switch to Valium

1.  7 week delay in starting your taper due to need to slowly switch from Lorazepam to Valium before starting to taper 

2. There is a risk that Valium won't work as well for you as Lorazepam.   This happened to me. There is also the risk that Valium won't work at all for you.  In my view, it's almost always better to taper the drug you're already on.  

 

If you do switch, you need to do a slow crossover.  Instructions for this are in the Ashton Manual.

 

 

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements

Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium

Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium 

End 2021  year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg

End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg 

End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg

Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper.

Taper is 95% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg  

March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper

Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper

Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper.  Current dose as of April 1: 6.8mg

Taper is 91% complete.  

  

Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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3 minutes ago, Gridley said:

When I began my taper, I was forced to switch from Lorazepam to Valium because I couldn't get Lorazepam.  Otherwise, I would have stayed with Lorazepam.  My nervous system did better with Lorazepam.  

 

Advantages of switch to Valium:

1. Valium has a long half-life, so you only have to take one dose a day

2. Because the doses of Valium are much larger than Lorazepam (10mg Valium = 1mg Lorazepam) it's easier to make your dose if using a scale

 

Disadvantages of switch to Valium

1.  7 week delay in starting your taper due to need to slowly switch from Lorazepam to Valium before starting to taper 

2. There is a risk that Valium won't work as well for you as Lorazepam.   This happened to me. There is also the risk that Valium won't work at all for you.  In my view, it's almost always better to taper the drug you're already on.  

 

If you do switch, you need to do a slow crossover.  Instructions for this are in the Ashton Manual.

 

 

I should taper the the first 12 am dose ten percent oh that then finish and the next and so on 

2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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5 minutes ago, jeffelmexicano said:

I should taper the the first 12 am dose ten percent oh that then finish and the next and so on 

Im in severe wd . On full dose wich I don’t understand . Should I start to low dose even more now ? Thanks 

2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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I need to kind understand what’s going on with my health ... 

2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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1 hour ago, jeffelmexicano said:

I should taper the the first 12 am dose ten percent oh that then finish and the next and so on 

It depends on your situation.  

 

You could reduce the morning dose during the first step of the 10 percent method, then reduce the noon dose during the second step, then reduce the evening dose during the third step. Once this cycle was finished, you would begin the fourth step with a further reduction of the morning dose, and so on, until the withdrawal is completed.

Sometimes there will be obvious reasons to choose the morning or evening dose as the first one to reduce. Many people find that they awaken in the morning in a state of anxiety or agitation due to withdrawal from the previous evening dose. Therefore, they may feel more comfortable beginning with a reduction of the afternoon dose. Others may find that they become excessively sleepy in the afternoon. They might want to begin by reducing that dose. Still others may be concerned about difficulty sleeping if they stop the evening dose of a tranquilizer. In that case, they would be wise to begin reducing a dose that is given earlier in the day.

There are no hard and fast rules about which doses to reduce first. In general, however, you should consider initially reducing the dose that's causing the most side effects, such as the afternoon dose that makes you too sleepy. Conversely, you may want to initially keep the dose that seems to be helping you the most, such as the evening dose if you have insomnia.

 

 

 

 

 

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements

Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium

Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium 

End 2021  year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg

End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg 

End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg

Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper.

Taper is 95% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg  

March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper

Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper

Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper.  Current dose as of April 1: 6.8mg

Taper is 91% complete.  

  

Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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31 minutes ago, Gridley said:

It depends on your situation.  

 

You could reduce the morning dose during the first step of the 10 percent method, then reduce the noon dose during the second step, then reduce the evening dose during the third step. Once this cycle was finished, you would begin the fourth step with a further reduction of the morning dose, and so on, until the withdrawal is completed.

Sometimes there will be obvious reasons to choose the morning or evening dose as the first one to reduce. Many people find that they awaken in the morning in a state of anxiety or agitation due to withdrawal from the previous evening dose. Therefore, they may feel more comfortable beginning with a reduction of the afternoon dose. Others may find that they become excessively sleepy in the afternoon. They might want to begin by reducing that dose. Still others may be concerned about difficulty sleeping if they stop the evening dose of a tranquilizer. In that case, they would be wise to begin reducing a dose that is given earlier in the day.

There are no hard and fast rules about which doses to reduce first. In general, however, you should consider initially reducing the dose that's causing the most side effects, such as the afternoon dose that makes you too sleepy. Conversely, you may want to initially keep the dose that seems to be helping you the most, such as the evening dose if you have insomnia.

 

 

 

 

 

I see first thanks for the answer 

tbh I don’t feel nothing of taking the pills I don’t feel the effect I’m always the same . My symptoms I guess are steady , mostly  in the morning I wake up like you said with anxiety and “bad from the head “ 

i understand what you say about first 10 percent of the first next month ten percent of the second and 3rd month of the night dose. 

Question. Can I do first finish the 1 and 2 doses ? Like 10 percent of the 1 then the 2 then back to the first, like I want to eliminate the day intake. Idk if you follow me sorry my englsih is not my first language. 

Anther question. Should I start now ? Cos my wd state is not gonna pass ? I skipped a dose accidentally on January 12 , enter into a wd and still didn’t get stable 

should I wait ? Start now ? The damage can be repair ? According what I read is kind of random I guess 

so that it’s thanks 

 

2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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7 minutes ago, jeffelmexicano said:

Can I do first finish the 1 and 2 doses ? Like 10 percent of the 1 then the 2 then back to the first,

You can taper off 10% off dose 1 for 4 weeks.  Then 10% off dose 2 for 4 weeks.  Then 10% off dose 3 for 4 weeks.  Then 10% off dose 4 for 4 weeks. Then you'd return to dose 1 and taper another 10% off your previous dose.  Etcetera.

 

An alternate method would be to taper 2.5% off each of the 4 doses at the same time for 4 weeks.  Then another 2.5% for 4 weeks.  Etcetera.

 

13 minutes ago, jeffelmexicano said:

should I wait ? Start now ?

You will have to decide.  It's a good idea to be stable when starting a taper.  

 

19 minutes ago, jeffelmexicano said:

The damage can be repair ?

Yes.

 

 

 

 

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements

Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium

Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium 

End 2021  year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg

End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg 

End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg

Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper.

Taper is 95% complete.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg  

March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper

Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper

Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper.  Current dose as of April 1: 6.8mg

Taper is 91% complete.  

  

Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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7 minutes ago, Gridley said:

You can taper off 10% off dose 1 for 4 weeks.  Then 10% off dose 2 for 4 weeks.  Then 10% off dose 3 for 4 weeks.  Then 10% off dose 4 for 4 weeks. Then you'd return to dose 1 and taper another 10% off your previous dose.  Etcetera.

 

An alternate method would be to taper 2.5% off each of the 4 doses at the same time for 4 weeks.  Then another 2.5% for 4 weeks.  Etcetera.

 

You will have to decide.  It's a good idea to be stable when starting a taper.  

 

Yes.

 

 

 

 

Thanks for the answer 

there are only 3 intakes 

but I understand 

10% of each every 4 weeks 

IM doubtful  about starting now 

maybe this state never pass and I keep waiting and damaging 

Mmm well idk you recomend to be stable but the big question is if that ever happens 

thanks 

2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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Hola @jeffelmexicano yo hablo español y estoy pasando por algo igual que tú , yo solo me tomé una pastilla y me hizo tener mucho síntomas porque tuve una reacción muy fuerte y aún estoy con estos síntomas . También tengo lo mismos problemas que tú hasta más . Yo solo soy una persona regular que también está en esta forma para que me ayuden. Gracias a ellos me di cuenta de esto porque estaba en los doctores y ellos me hicieron varios estudios y todo estaba normal .. hasta que me di cuenta que fue la pastilla suele pasa hasta con una sola pastilla. Tengo muchos síntomas como los tuyos . Lo único que te puedo decir que esto no es fácil pero que vas estar bien y que ellos son bien profesionales en ayudarte… si gustas preguntarme algo o solo necesitas hablar de esto con alguien en español aquí estoy . Espero y te recuperes pronto . Especialmente para ti y tu esposa . Yo también tengo una familia y 2 niños pequeños. 

December 27, 22’ Lexapro 10mg (only took one dose and immediately stopped) 

(Taking magnesium before bed 11 PM)

 

 

Look to the LORD, and his strength; seek his face always 🙏❤️

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4 minutes ago, Annaaa said:

Hola @jeffelmexicano yo hablo español y estoy pasando por algo igual que tú , yo solo me tomé una pastilla y me hizo tener mucho síntomas porque tuve una reacción muy fuerte y aún estoy con estos síntomas . También tengo lo mismos problemas que tú hasta más . Yo solo soy una persona regular que también está en esta forma para que me ayuden. Gracias a ellos me di cuenta de esto porque estaba en los doctores y ellos me hicieron varios estudios y todo estaba normal .. hasta que me di cuenta que fue la pastilla suele pasa hasta con una sola pastilla. Tengo muchos síntomas como los tuyos . Lo único que te puedo decir que esto no es fácil pero que vas estar bien y que ellos son bien profesionales en ayudarte… si gustas preguntarme algo o solo necesitas hablar de esto con alguien en español aquí estoy . Espero y te recuperes pronto . Especialmente para ti y tu esposa . Yo también tengo una familia y 2 niños pequeños. 

Hola annna gracias por escribirme 

lamento q haya sido una Sola pastilla la verdad que es horrible no hay nada peor me gustaría saber de qué país eres ya mi vida cambio y no puedo hacer mucho . Es difícil sobre todo la apatía y la sexualidad pra el matrimonio . Se puede chatear por este sitio bueno también estoy en discord y muchas gracias por haberme escrito ♥️

2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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14 hours ago, jeffelmexicano said:

Im in severe wd . On full dose wich I don’t understand . Should I start to low dose even more now ? Thanks 

 

@jeffelmexicano the reason we're suggesting that you reduce the lorazepam is because it appears many of your symptoms are from taking TOO MUCH lorazepam. It wears off overnight, that's why you might have those bad symptoms in the morning.

 

For what reason were Seroquel and lorazepam prescribed together? Why are you taking 250mg Seroquel?

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9 hours ago, Altostrata said:

 

@jeffelmexicano the reason we're suggesting that you reduce the lorazepam is because it appears many of your symptoms are from taking TOO MUCH lorazepam. It wears off overnight, that's why you might have those bad symptoms in the morning.

 

For what reason were Seroquel and lorazepam prescribed together? Why are you taking 250mg Seroquel?

Hello , thanks for answer 

im not sure why I am in those meds 

my complain to the doctor was anxiety and middle insomnio nothing else . I used to smoke and drink quit much . I guess he followed the protocol . But I wants having delusion or anything. 

Idk why they were prescribing together 

2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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7 minutes ago, jeffelmexicano said:

Hello , thanks for answer 

im not sure why I am in those meds 

my complain to the doctor was anxiety and middle insomnio nothing else . I used to smoke and drink quit much . I guess he followed the protocol . But I wants having delusion or anything. 

Idk why they were prescribing together 

When I wake up 

i can barely stand and I have a family 

depresion is way to heavy 

also not having feelings or emotions 

and heavy dreaming constantly dreaming 

and no desire for my wife wich don’t know exactly what’s going on 

thanks 

2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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4 minutes ago, jeffelmexicano said:

When I wake up 

i can barely stand and I have a family 

depresion is way to heavy 

also not having feelings or emotions 

and heavy dreaming constantly dreaming 

and no desire for my wife wich don’t know exactly what’s going on 

thanks 

Also I wanted to ask . I read that is the current dose the reduction 

with benzos is the same or is the 10 of original dose 

this gonna take years i guess ... 

2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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@jeffelmexicanoJeff Are you able to follow @Frogie's suggestions?

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1 hour ago, Altostrata said:

@jeffelmexicanoJeff Are you able to follow @Frogie's suggestions?

Hello @AltostrataI was thinking in following gridley . I’m not sure what was @Frogie recomendation like 10% less of each dose every 4 weeks but that gonna take years I guess . Thanks 

2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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@Altostratanow i see @Frogierecommendation maybe it’s better 

like 10% of first dose until is done... can I do 10 % of the original dose ? Ok I’m sorry now I saw what @Frogierecomend you think the same ? @Altostratathanks very much 

2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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Is messed cos I try to do this with my pharmacy 

taking them pills to cut them every month wich is expensive but I’m not good with maths and I don’t have a mg scale 

2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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@jeffelmexicano

 

If you purchase a scale, they are pretty inexpensive on Amazon, we would help you with the math.

 

I would start with the most activating dose that you are on and taper off of it first.

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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1 minute ago, Frogie said:

@jeffelmexicano

 

If you purchase a scale, they are pretty inexpensive on Amazon, we would help you with the math.

 

I would start with the most activating dose that you are on and taper off of it first.

Hello @Frogiethanks for the answer apriciete 

I guess im doing the pharmacy thing 

I don’t want to make a mistake again 

you still could help me with the maths tho . 

Im not sure what is most activating dose 

when I take 12 am dose 1.25 mg 

i don’t feel nothing same with the 5 pm dose 

when i take 2.25 mg at night last intake i go to sleep but there I also take the quetiapin drug 

usually I get up at morning real bad 

thanks 

2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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Just now, jeffelmexicano said:

Hello @Frogiethanks for the answer apriciete 

I guess im doing the pharmacy thing 

I don’t want to make a mistake again 

you still could help me with the maths tho . 

Im not sure what is most activating dose 

when I take 12 am dose 1.25 mg 

i don’t feel nothing same with the 5 pm dose 

when i take 2.25 mg at night last intake i go to sleep but there I also take the quetiapin drug 

usually I get up at morning real bad 

thanks 

What do you suggest 

2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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@jeffelmexicano

 

Since you aren't having major symptoms with any one of th doses. I would start with the 1st dose then.

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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2 minutes ago, Frogie said:

@jeffelmexicano

 

Since you aren't having major symptoms with any one of th doses. I would start with the 1st dose then.

I see ok thanks 

so first cut must be the pill have to weight 1.125 mg right ? Thanks @Frogie

2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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6 minutes ago, jeffelmexicano said:

I see ok thanks 

so first cut must be the pill have to weight 1.125 mg right ? Thanks @Frogie

Or 1.12? 

2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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@jeffelmexicano

 

I would do 1.13, rounding up.

 

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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I did a little math just fast 

so quit benzos gonna take me 5 years almost 

plus with Luck 2 more years quetiapine 

so 7 years sentence ! 

And nothing guarantee I gonna heal 

also during those 5 years I will be taking seroquel none stop 

for 5 years ! 

I have no words I gonna be an old man by then I’m in shock 

2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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I've done this math too, those years rack up fast. Hard to feel hopeful when thinking of year after year of med tapering... but then when I think of the alternative (doing nothing, staying on too high a dose) it makes me think I gotta keep going on this. Who knows, might even add years to our lives to be on less meds! Probably will, when you think about all the health problems tied to lifelong usage of psych meds.

 

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Started on Prozac in early 2000s to treat cPTSD, been on various cocktails ever since.

2002-2004, 2017-2022: Buspar, tapered down to 0

2016-present: 100mg Seroquel for sleep -> May 2023: 90mg -> June 2023: 81mg -> September 2023: 72mg -> switched to brand name, much too strong, down to 60mg -> October 2023: 54mg -> November 2023: 50mg -> January 2024: 45mg -> April 2024: 40.5mg

2016-Present: 100mg Wellbutrin SR -> January 2023: 75mg IR (37.5mg 2x a day) -> February 2023 (33.75mg 2x a day) -> July 2023 (30.37mg 2x a day) -> August 2023: 27.33mg 2x a day 

2018-present: 25mg Pristiq

2015-present: 600mg Gabapentin (200mg 3x a day) -> December 2022: 300mg Gabapentin (100mg 3x a day) per GP's recommendation after side effects -> March 2023: 90mg 3x a day (switched to liquid suspension) -> April 2023: 81mg 3x a day -> September 2023: bad generic, switched back to homemade liquid; too strong after bad generic, down to 70mg 3x a day, still bad. Adjusted slowly till at 60mg 3x a day, much better. Long hold till -> December 2023: 54mg, still feels too high after November Seroquel switch from brand name to generic, doc recommended 50mg which feels better -> January 2024: When Wellbutrin went down, Gabapentin started putting me to sleep, went down to 45mg, then 41mg to stay awake, so far so good -> February 2024: 36mg, still too high, 34mg -> March 2024: 31mg, STILL too high, 30mg

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@jeffelmexicanowe are having trouble understanding you.

 

On 3/3/2023 at 6:13 AM, jeffelmexicano said:

I take at 12 am 1.25 mg 

5 pm 1.25 mg 

8 pm 2.25 mg 

 

Do you take your first dose of lorazepam at 12 a.m. midnight or 12 p.m. noon?

 

What time o'clock do you take Seroquel? At what dosage? Are you taking immediate-release Seroquel or Seroquel XR?

 

Do you take any other drugs?

 

15 hours ago, jeffelmexicano said:

When I wake up 

i can barely stand and I have a family 

 

What do you mean by "I can barely stand"? What are the symptoms you have in the morning, before you take any of your drugs?

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3 hours ago, Altostrata said:

@jeffelmexicanowe are having trouble understanding you.

 

 

Do you take your first dose of lorazepam at 12 a.m. midnight or 12 p.m. noon?

 

What time o'clock do you take Seroquel? At what dosage? Are you taking immediate-release Seroquel or Seroquel XR?

 

Do you take any other drugs?

 

 

What do you mean by "I can barely stand"? What are the symptoms you have in the morning, before you take any of your drugs?

@Altostratathanks for the answer 

i take at 12 am day( I guess 0 am is at night ) . I take 12 am middle day 

barely stand cos I feel bad imagine all the time I gonna have to be on meds 

how my brain is gonna remodel “back” after so long 

seroquel is normal release 

i take it between 8 and 930 pm 

there’s a was to speed up ? My liver going to be able to hold ? 

my dose of seroquel now is 187,5 mg 

ibguess i put it on my signature will check again 

I don’t take any other drugs 

now is more clear ?  Thanks 

 

2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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5 minutes ago, jeffelmexicano said:

@Altostratathanks for the answer 

i take at 12 am day( I guess 0 am is at night ) . I take 12 am middle day 

barely stand cos I feel bad imagine all the time I gonna have to be on meds 

how my brain is gonna remodel “back” after so long 

seroquel is normal release 

i take it between 8 and 930 pm 

there’s a was to speed up ? My liver going to be able to hold ? 

my dose of seroquel now is 187,5 mg 

ibguess i put it on my signature will check again 

I don’t take any other drugs 

now is more clear ?  Thanks 

 

Im sorry if didnt understand me I’m such in a big stress 

2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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13 minutes ago, jeffelmexicano said:

@Altostratathanks for the answer 

i take at 12 am day( I guess 0 am is at night ) . I take 12 am middle day 

barely stand cos I feel bad imagine all the time I gonna have to be on meds 

how my brain is gonna remodel “back” after so long 

seroquel is normal release 

i take it between 8 and 930 pm 

there’s a was to speed up ? My liver going to be able to hold ? 

my dose of seroquel now is 187,5 mg 

ibguess i put it on my signature will check again 

I don’t take any other drugs 

now is more clear ?  Thanks 

I take exactly to be fair at 9 pm the seroquel and is immediate release 

 

2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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It’s 5 am here 

idk why I get up so early 

Maybe I sleep 5 hours only ususally is like 8 or 9 

when i woke up at 4 am just now 

mall this ideas of the 7 years of taper come to my mind and woke me up 

i drank some Coca Cola and made one puff of my wife cig . I stoped smoke cos all this . Idk what woke me up 

i have a few days with out going to the bathroom 

and in a few day is my bday 

im having a huge detachment 

i can’t believe this is happening to me 

my social life is destroy 

tbh my wife like sex with me lol I’m sorry but that real 

and I’m zero sexual I can make it happen maybe this in the future will create some problems ? Just venting sorry thanks 

 

2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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It’s 5 am here 

idk why I get up so early 

Maybe I sleep 5 hours only ususally is like 8 or 9 

when i woke up at 4 am just now 

mall this ideas of the 7 years of taper come to my mind and woke me up 

i drank some Coca Cola and made one puff of my wife cig . I stoped smoke cos all this . Idk what woke me up 

i have a few days with out going to the bathroom 

and in a few day is my bday 

im having a huge detachment 

i can’t believe this is happening to me 

my social life is destroy 

tbh my wife like sex with me lol I’m sorry but that real 

and I’m zero sexual I cant make it happen maybe this in the future will create some problems ? Just venting sorry thanks 

I also took around 8 pm a decaf coffee 

im extra sensitive to stuff ? Feeling more empty . Or anhedonia ? Emotional anesthesia ? Never could back sleep again tonight well now is day time now 

2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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It's terrible to lose your personal power being a young person who need it to build your own future, also all your plans and dreams were born considering your social abilities  that now are gone, I understand because thats me too

 

I'm on seroquel too and still not able to taper

SECOND TIME USING MEDICATION

> quetiapine (seroquel)

09/08/22 300 mg    10/24/22 400mg    11/02/22 500mg    01/02/23 700mg  03/09  650mg  04/20 600mg    05/12 550mg   06/11 500mg    07/15 450mg    07/29 400mg

FIRST TIME USING MEDICATION (sorry did not use mm/dd/year but dd/mm/year)

>    OLANZAPINE (ZYPREXA)

07/21 10mg      08/21 20mg       09/21 15 mg        10/21 10mg then 5mg     11/01/21 off Olanzapine

>    SERTRALINE (ZOLOFT)

08/21 100mg        09/21 supposedly 150mg as prescribed, 200mg as a mistake for a while       10/21 100mg        11/21 50mg       12/11/22 off Sertraline

>    LITHIUM
07/21 300mg (1 pill)        08/21 600mg        09/21 900mg (stabilized in blood tests)     10/21, 11/21, 12/21, 01/22 tapered off in the course of 2 weeks     02/22 off Lithium

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