margaretLO Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) Hello. I want to share my story to you and try to find some hope in this tuff journey. I am sorry for my English, is not my native language. I was 25 when I got some panic attacks from weed use and did the mistake and visit psychiatrist. After deny medication he convinced me and took 20 MG of lexapro. First month I got hppd, that he claims it's not the drug and general mild reduce of my intelligence. I stayed on it and hppd went away, so I believe is a receptor thing. I stayed there and did three attempts get off all this years with his advice taper in one month the max dose. First attempt at 2016 after one year use I got extreme terror and anxiety, second extreme social fear and loss of weight, third is the last one I got extremely sick on it with reactions and extreme fatigue and all day migraines plus inflammation marker on blood so I cold turkey. Never heard of tapering before until this year. All My symptoms that I have and had severe after get off the med it was mild on Lexapro and I had signs for all. First months I get off even I didn't have my character etc I wasn't bedridden. My symptoms so far I deal with them are: Symptoms that got better at 20-70percent: Extreme vertigo, balance issues, walking issues, hand shaking, legs restless, spinning vision, severe oscilopsia, crashing sounds, smelling things didn't exist, couldn't sit on chair because felt my body collapsing for months, swallow issues ate only soups for months, fever, anxiety not severe like muted, toxic anxiety, extreme weight loss, cold dysfuction, hair loss, tmj, extreme fatigue, one sec working memory, extreme anger, extreme happiness, extreme crying spells,burning brain, missing brain feeling,(still have most of them but not in a range of make me bedbound). I regain 60-70percent of my hearing even left with tinitus. Started feel some music, started seeing dreams, gain 20 percent of visualization. (I had lost all of them on lex and didn't know from lobotomized) Symptoms that persist or getting worst: blank mind apathy, tinnitus, severe cognitive dysfuction, severe detached from world, words problem, severe confusion even do simple tasks, time problem perception, both long term and short memory loss, visual snow, hppd, akitenopsia, bomb exploding feeling on head General I deal with all kind of possible symptoms. This concern me it's that I had all this mild on Lexapro and I had esr inflammation marker.. So I believe is chronic damage. The severe dementia started ten months off. My personality has nothing to do that I was but I am worst even from my severe pssd I had on Lexapro. Did anyone got this one year off to his cognition and get better? I started go to my office with brother try do some things I used to but suffering 24/7 with no thoughts and brain. Can the cognition get better one year off? Love you all Edited May 21, 2023 by manymoretodays name to topic title 2015 20mg lexapro 2016 20mg attempt get off one month taper(doctor advice) xtreme terror and anxiety 2016 again 20mg attempt get off extreme ocd and social fear as withdraws 2018 reduce to 10mg ocd visual snow fatigue couldn't learn 2022 10mg get off again one month taper(doctor advice) had reactions on it and inflammation markers... xtreme protracted withdraws symptoms Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Carmie Posted May 20, 2023 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 20, 2023 Welcome @margaretLO I’m sorry to hear about all the symptoms you’ve had or still have. These medications certainly cause a lot of havoc. Everyone on this site is going through an myriad of different symptoms. What date did you go off the Lexapro? Would you please put that into your drug signature. I’m gathering you may have tapered off it really quickly? Just go to the top of the Introductions and Updates page and you’ll see a thread asking you to start a topic about yourself. In the first paragraph there’s a link showing you how to do your drug signature. Please put in all medications you’ve been on, especially in the last two years. Thank you so much. If you read other people’s threads you’ll see that there are many people that are still suffering with symptoms years after coming off their medication, so you’re not alone. Feel free to pop over to other threads to have a chat. Cognition problems are really common. If you go to the Symptoms and Self-Care section there’s a thread entitled: “ Brain fog: blank mind, comprehension, concentration, cognitive and memory problems,” if you want to check it out. Sending hugs🤗 Seroquel. 2019:➡️ From 7.25mg to 5.80mg✔️ 2020➡️From 5.60 to 4.80✔️ 2021➡️From 4.60 to 4.0✔️ 2022➡️From 3.95 to 3.55✔️2023➡️ Jan 26=3.50✔️March 17=3.45✔️ June12=3.40✔️ July30=3.35✔️ Sep14=3.30✔️ Oct31=3.25✔️ 2024➡️Jan15=3.20✔️ Feb19=3.15✔️ March26=3.10✔️This is NOT medical advice.Consult your doctor. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Carmie Posted May 29, 2023 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted May 29, 2023 How are you doing @margaretLO ? 💛 Seroquel. 2019:➡️ From 7.25mg to 5.80mg✔️ 2020➡️From 5.60 to 4.80✔️ 2021➡️From 4.60 to 4.0✔️ 2022➡️From 3.95 to 3.55✔️2023➡️ Jan 26=3.50✔️March 17=3.45✔️ June12=3.40✔️ July30=3.35✔️ Sep14=3.30✔️ Oct31=3.25✔️ 2024➡️Jan15=3.20✔️ Feb19=3.15✔️ March26=3.10✔️This is NOT medical advice.Consult your doctor. Link to comment
margaretLO Posted May 31, 2023 Author Share Posted May 31, 2023 Hello Carmie. Thank you. Not good. I am dealing with brain fog and xtreme ocd thoughts (not mine). Blurry vision dissappeared three days now.. General very bad.... I ll update My signature. 2015 20mg lexapro 2016 20mg attempt get off one month taper(doctor advice) xtreme terror and anxiety 2016 again 20mg attempt get off extreme ocd and social fear as withdraws 2018 reduce to 10mg ocd visual snow fatigue couldn't learn 2022 10mg get off again one month taper(doctor advice) had reactions on it and inflammation markers... xtreme protracted withdraws symptoms Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Carmie Posted June 1, 2023 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted June 1, 2023 I’m so very sorry you’re suffering so much @margaretLO, thank you for doing your signature when you get around to it. If you have trouble doing it, I can get someone to send you a link, I don’t have a computer. I see you live in Greece, I was just looking at some pictures of Greece, it looks like such a beautiful country. Do you live near the water at all? Sending you hugs🤗 Seroquel. 2019:➡️ From 7.25mg to 5.80mg✔️ 2020➡️From 5.60 to 4.80✔️ 2021➡️From 4.60 to 4.0✔️ 2022➡️From 3.95 to 3.55✔️2023➡️ Jan 26=3.50✔️March 17=3.45✔️ June12=3.40✔️ July30=3.35✔️ Sep14=3.30✔️ Oct31=3.25✔️ 2024➡️Jan15=3.20✔️ Feb19=3.15✔️ March26=3.10✔️This is NOT medical advice.Consult your doctor. Link to comment
margaretLO Posted June 1, 2023 Author Share Posted June 1, 2023 On 5/31/2023 at 3:18 PM, margaretLO said: Hello Carmie. Thank you. Not good. I am dealing with brain fog and xtreme ocd thoughts (not mine). Blurry vision dissappeared three days now.. General very bad.... I ll update My signature. Thank u much.. I would be greatfull if you send me the link how to make the signature. Yes the sea is almost above my house but I can't feel my surroundings 2015 20mg lexapro 2016 20mg attempt get off one month taper(doctor advice) xtreme terror and anxiety 2016 again 20mg attempt get off extreme ocd and social fear as withdraws 2018 reduce to 10mg ocd visual snow fatigue couldn't learn 2022 10mg get off again one month taper(doctor advice) had reactions on it and inflammation markers... xtreme protracted withdraws symptoms Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Carmie Posted June 2, 2023 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted June 2, 2023 @margaretLO I’m glad you live near the water, but it’s sad that your emotions are so numb that you can’t enjoy it. It’s very common in withdrawals to have anhedonia and have trouble feeling pleasure in anything. Brain fog and feeling detached from the world is so very common. You said that you had extreme emotions, like extreme angry, extreme happiness, extreme crying spells. These are neuro-emotions caused by the meds. There is a thread in the Symptoms and Self-Care section on neuro-emotions if you want to have a read of it. It’s also very common with withdrawals. All our emotions can be extremely heightened, it’s not us, it’s the medication. You mentioned dementia. Did you actually get diagnosed with it? Withdrawals can also affect our memory etc, and what you have may be the effects of this if you weren’t officially diagnosed with dementia. I’ve had chronic fatigue syndrome for three decades and it feels like I have dementia, because my memory is so very bad. I’ve learnt to live with it and make peace with it, as I can’t change it unless I one day get over my illness. As regards withdrawals, you’ll see that quite a number of people on this site who have recovered ended up getting their cognition back. Even when going through withdrawals, many have said that they slowly started to feel better. I sent a note for someone to send you the signature link. I don’t have a computer and can’t send links. Sending hugs your way🤗 Seroquel. 2019:➡️ From 7.25mg to 5.80mg✔️ 2020➡️From 5.60 to 4.80✔️ 2021➡️From 4.60 to 4.0✔️ 2022➡️From 3.95 to 3.55✔️2023➡️ Jan 26=3.50✔️March 17=3.45✔️ June12=3.40✔️ July30=3.35✔️ Sep14=3.30✔️ Oct31=3.25✔️ 2024➡️Jan15=3.20✔️ Feb19=3.15✔️ March26=3.10✔️This is NOT medical advice.Consult your doctor. Link to comment
margaretLO Posted June 3, 2023 Author Share Posted June 3, 2023 6 hours ago, Carmie said: @margaretLO I’m glad you live near the water, but it’s sad that your emotions are so numb that you can’t enjoy it. It’s very common in withdrawals to have anhedonia and have trouble feeling pleasure in anything. Brain fog and feeling detached from the world is so very common. You said that you had extreme emotions, like extreme angry, extreme happiness, extreme crying spells. These are neuro-emotions caused by the meds. There is a thread in the Symptoms and Self-Care section on neuro-emotions if you want to have a read of it. It’s also very common with withdrawals. All our emotions can be extremely heightened, it’s not us, it’s the medication. You mentioned dementia. Did you actually get diagnosed with it? Withdrawals can also affect our memory etc, and what you have may be the effects of this if you weren’t officially diagnosed with dementia. I’ve had chronic fatigue syndrome for three decades and it feels like I have dementia, because my memory is so very bad. I’ve learnt to live with it and make peace with it, as I can’t change it unless I one day get over my illness. As regards withdrawals, you’ll see that quite a number of people on this site who have recovered ended up getting their cognition back. Even when going through withdrawals, many have said that they slowly started to feel better. I sent a note for someone to send you the signature link. I don’t have a computer and can’t send links. Sending hugs your way🤗 Goodmorning! I didn't know about neuroemotions. I ll check it out thank you. I got them at withdraws. Yes both memories are super effected to the point not have a clue what I did previous days plus severe confusion to do daily tasks... Thank u for all the info... I hope get better to a point that ll make peace of it.. Because it's very xtreme. I got binocular motion issues and many symptoms unfortunately and cfs too Now I am out try take some vitamin d. Sorry for ur memory issues. Hope resolve ❤️ 2015 20mg lexapro 2016 20mg attempt get off one month taper(doctor advice) xtreme terror and anxiety 2016 again 20mg attempt get off extreme ocd and social fear as withdraws 2018 reduce to 10mg ocd visual snow fatigue couldn't learn 2022 10mg get off again one month taper(doctor advice) had reactions on it and inflammation markers... xtreme protracted withdraws symptoms Link to comment
Doctorsrcrap Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Hiya. Just wanted to welcome you to the community and wish you luck on your journey. Sending healing vibes your way 2015- Jan 2021 20mg Citalapram Jan 2021- April 2021 Sertraline (CT) June 2021 - Fluoxetine & Trazadone Oct 2021- Trazadone to Quitiapin Oct 2021 to June 2022 switches Duloxetine then paroxatine then Venlafaxine. June 2022- venlafaxine for 5 or 6 weeks at 37.5 twice daily. Upped for one week to 75mg twice daily but caused panic attacks. Dropped back down to 37.5 twice daily. Panic attacks stopped. 1 week- 62.5mg 1 week- 50mg 1 week- 37.5mg 1 week - 25mg ANTIDEPRESSANT FREE SINCE JULY 22ND 2022!! 18/05/23 - 01-06/23 doxycycline for a rat bite Taken propranalol since 2015. 80mg. 21/11/22 76mg. 28/11/22 72mg. 05/12/22 68mg. 19/12/22 64mg. 27/12/22 60mg. 02/01/23 56mg. 09/01/23 50mg. 16/01/23 47mg. 23/01/23 44mg. 29/01/23 40mg. 05/02/23 38mg. 12/02/23 35mg. 19/02/23 32mg. 25/02/23 27mg. 04/03/23 25mg. 11/03/23 22mg. 17/03/23 19mg. 24/03/23 20mg. 05/04/23 18mg. 11/04/23 16mg. 17/04/23 14mg. 27/04/23 20mg. 19/06/23 19mg. 25/06/23 20mg. 04/08/23 18mg. 11/08/23 17mg. 16/08/23 16mg. 25/08/23 15mg. 01/09/23 14mg. 08/09/23 13mg. 15/08/23 12mg. 22/09/23 11mg. 29/09/23 10mg. 19/11/23 9mg. 26/11/23 8mg. 03/12/23 7mg. 10/12/23 6mg. 17/12/23 5mg. 24/12/23 4mg. 31/01/23 3mg. 07/01/24 2mg. 13/01/24 1mg. 19/01/24 0mg. DONE! Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Carmie Posted June 4, 2023 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted June 4, 2023 23 hours ago, margaretLO said: Goodmorning! I didn't know about neuroemotions. I ll check it out thank you. I got them at withdraws. Yes both memories are super effected to the point not have a clue what I did previous days plus severe confusion to do daily tasks... Thank u for all the info... I hope get better to a point that ll make peace of it.. Because it's very xtreme. I got binocular motion issues and many symptoms unfortunately and cfs too Now I am out try take some vitamin d. Sorry for ur memory issues. Hope resolve ❤️ Yes, neuro-emotions are definitely something we contend with when going through withdrawals Margaret, I feel like crying today myself. I have a lot of health issues on top of withdrawals and I’m feeling quite overwhelmed today. I let myself feel the emotions, but I continue to do things that matter to me anyway. I’m sorry you have CFS as well, how long have you had it? Having had it for three decades, it’s just part of my life now, I can’t really remember what it’s like to be well. It’s just new health issues over the last few years (unrelated to withdrawals) that are hard to deal with. Hope you find a little joy in your day💛 Seroquel. 2019:➡️ From 7.25mg to 5.80mg✔️ 2020➡️From 5.60 to 4.80✔️ 2021➡️From 4.60 to 4.0✔️ 2022➡️From 3.95 to 3.55✔️2023➡️ Jan 26=3.50✔️March 17=3.45✔️ June12=3.40✔️ July30=3.35✔️ Sep14=3.30✔️ Oct31=3.25✔️ 2024➡️Jan15=3.20✔️ Feb19=3.15✔️ March26=3.10✔️This is NOT medical advice.Consult your doctor. Link to comment
margaretLO Posted June 4, 2023 Author Share Posted June 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Carmie said: Yes, neuro-emotions are definitely something we contend with when going through withdrawals Margaret, I feel like crying today myself. I have a lot of health issues on top of withdrawals and I’m feeling quite overwhelmed today. I let myself feel the emotions, but I continue to do things that matter to me anyway. I’m sorry you have CFS as well, how long have you had it? Having had it for three decades, it’s just part of my life now, I can’t really remember what it’s like to be well. It’s just new health issues over the last few years (unrelated to withdrawals) that are hard to deal with. Hope you find a little joy in your day💛 I am really sorry for your symptoms Carmie. I had fatigue on Lexapro but last year I developed it severe one day like couldn't lift the stairs. Then I get off lexapro and this continue and become severe. Now I have waves and windows of xtreme fatigue to housebound to moderate fatigue walk to work or do some stuff, never normal ofc for my age, not even close. 💓 2015 20mg lexapro 2016 20mg attempt get off one month taper(doctor advice) xtreme terror and anxiety 2016 again 20mg attempt get off extreme ocd and social fear as withdraws 2018 reduce to 10mg ocd visual snow fatigue couldn't learn 2022 10mg get off again one month taper(doctor advice) had reactions on it and inflammation markers... xtreme protracted withdraws symptoms Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus manymoretodays Posted June 4, 2023 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted June 4, 2023 Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks. Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Carmie Posted June 11, 2023 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted June 11, 2023 Hi @margaretLO , thanks for your kind words and thanks for putting in your signature. I’m sorry you’re struggling with fatigue too, it certainly makes day to day living a challenge. Mine isn’t from the medication, but from my illness. Yeah, I know the feeling of barely being functional, not fun! Some days I don’t even have the strength to walk downstairs to check the mail. I spend lots of time in bed. One of the worst things about CFS is the effects on the brain, I can barely think to save my life some days. I hope that you’re coping okay💛 Seroquel. 2019:➡️ From 7.25mg to 5.80mg✔️ 2020➡️From 5.60 to 4.80✔️ 2021➡️From 4.60 to 4.0✔️ 2022➡️From 3.95 to 3.55✔️2023➡️ Jan 26=3.50✔️March 17=3.45✔️ June12=3.40✔️ July30=3.35✔️ Sep14=3.30✔️ Oct31=3.25✔️ 2024➡️Jan15=3.20✔️ Feb19=3.15✔️ March26=3.10✔️This is NOT medical advice.Consult your doctor. Link to comment
margaretLO Posted July 28, 2023 Author Share Posted July 28, 2023 Suddenly the colours become dull and grayish... 17 months off. Does this never end? Cognition and emotions still bottom 2015 20mg lexapro 2016 20mg attempt get off one month taper(doctor advice) xtreme terror and anxiety 2016 again 20mg attempt get off extreme ocd and social fear as withdraws 2018 reduce to 10mg ocd visual snow fatigue couldn't learn 2022 10mg get off again one month taper(doctor advice) had reactions on it and inflammation markers... xtreme protracted withdraws symptoms Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus manymoretodays Posted August 4, 2023 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 4, 2023 Hi margaretLO. Any windows? Even partial day ones? For me, it did get much better. And at 17 months off everything.....I still struggled quite a bit, with some WD symptoms....yet if I paid attention and checked my journals, or calendar......I could or would always see the Windows for the Waves and know I would get lifted back to a better and easier baseline. I can't pull off links to great topics here right now. Do seek out new practices, if needed, to give yourself a pause from worrying about staying stuck. Oooh sweetie, it can sure try us....prolonged or protracted WD. I sense you'll improve and feel it soon too. L, P, H, and G. mmt Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks. Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
Mentor RachelSusan Posted August 19, 2023 Mentor Share Posted August 19, 2023 @margaretLO I'm sorry to read about what you are going through. I hope you see some improvement soon. When you feel up to it, please let us know how you are doing. I am not a health professional in any way. I do not give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a professional medical practitioner. NEW INFORMATION FOR GABAPENTIN TAPER April 29, 2022 900 mg to 800 mg (11%), May 29, 2022 800 to 700 mg (12.5%), June 20, 2022 700 to 650mg (8%), July 20, 2022 650 to 575 (12%), August 20, 575 to 500 (13%), Sept 20, 2020 500 to 475mg (5%) Nov 7, 2022 475 to 425 (11%), Nov 21, 2022 500mg Medications: Gabapentin, Prednisone 1.5mg a day, Cortisol Inhaler daily. HISTORY FOR ZOLOFT TAPER Feb. 2016 to June 2016 - Was on 150mg Zoloft. Put on Gabapentin at 900mg a day in 2016 due to antidepressant withdrawal. Quit Zoloft (Sertraline) June 2016, reinstated 50mg of Zoloft July 2016. From July 2016 to October 2016 went from 50 mg down 2.3 mg. I up-dosed in November 2016 to 12.5 mg. Held there until January 2017 when I started a much slower taper. STARTING SENSIBLE ZOLOFT TAPERING USING GUIDELINES FROM THIS SITE Dec. 10 2016 - switched to Liquid Zoloft (Sertraline) @ 12.5 mg. Jan. 4, 2020 1.875 mg (6.3%). Jan. 25, 2020 1.75 mg. Feb. 29, 2020 1.625mg (7.10%). Apr. 4, 2020 1.5 mg. May 9, 2020 1.375 mg. June 6, 2020 1.25 mg. (9.10%). July 4, 2020 1.125 mg. (10%). August 15, 2020 1.0 mg. Oct 24, 2020 .875 mg. Nov. 28, 2020 .75mg. Jan 16, 2021 .685mg (8.7%). Feb 13, 2021 .62mg. March 12, 2021 .56mg. May 1, 2021 .375mg. May 29, 2021 .25mg. June 26, 2021 .0125mg. July 25, 2021 .065mg. August 22, 2021 .048mg. October 2, 2021 .043mg. October 10, 2021 .038mg. October 23, 2021 .035mg. October 30, 2021 .032mg. Nov. 13, 2021 .030 mg. Dec 4, 2021 .0285 mg. Dec 11, 2021 .0265 mg. Dec 18, 2021 .0246 mg. Dec 25, 2021 .023mg. Jan 1, 2022. 0 mg. OFF COMPLETELY Link to comment
margaretLO Posted August 19, 2023 Author Share Posted August 19, 2023 On 8/4/2023 at 11:23 PM, manymoretodays said: Hi margaretLO. Any windows? Even partial day ones? For me, it did get much better. And at 17 months off everything.....I still struggled quite a bit, with some WD symptoms....yet if I paid attention and checked my journals, or calendar......I could or would always see the Windows for the Waves and know I would get lifted back to a better and easier baseline. I can't pull off links to great topics here right now. Do seek out new practices, if needed, to give yourself a pause from worrying about staying stuck. Oooh sweetie, it can sure try us....prolonged or protracted WD. I sense you'll improve and feel it soon too. L, P, H, and G. mmt Hello. Thanks for your interests. Wish spread recovery to you. I am not doing well. Cognition, memory, brain fog, vision, apathy and fatigue are my main problems. Most people left me and just spend the time on bed grieving my life. I am very sick. I cook for me and go out once in a while but the severe Dr and fog doesn't let me. 2015 20mg lexapro 2016 20mg attempt get off one month taper(doctor advice) xtreme terror and anxiety 2016 again 20mg attempt get off extreme ocd and social fear as withdraws 2018 reduce to 10mg ocd visual snow fatigue couldn't learn 2022 10mg get off again one month taper(doctor advice) had reactions on it and inflammation markers... xtreme protracted withdraws symptoms Link to comment
margaretLO Posted August 23, 2023 Author Share Posted August 23, 2023 I think I am worsening. The confusion memory loss and brain fog are 100percent, I can't even go out. 2015 20mg lexapro 2016 20mg attempt get off one month taper(doctor advice) xtreme terror and anxiety 2016 again 20mg attempt get off extreme ocd and social fear as withdraws 2018 reduce to 10mg ocd visual snow fatigue couldn't learn 2022 10mg get off again one month taper(doctor advice) had reactions on it and inflammation markers... xtreme protracted withdraws symptoms Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus manymoretodays Posted August 24, 2023 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted August 24, 2023 Hi margaretLO, Hugs. When's the last time you went out? Any home people or people close by that you can talk with or visit with every now and again? I know. And I remember when it all felt scary......the DP/DR stuff especially.......when I did not really know what it was, that it WAS temporary. Hoping you'll find something helpful, calming in the topic below: -derealization-or-depersonalization-dr-and-dp/ Windows and Waves and remember ^ I know that right when you posted you felt horrid, and cognitively challenged.......I am hopeful however, that by now you feel a little better or improved. I mean maybe not all the way to where you wish to be someday, but better, even a little. You posted. You used big words. Good, good. Oh sweetie, hang on. Hoping you can find someone locally to connect with too. I used to use....."I had a drug reaction" to explain what was going on with me, when it was bad and tough. Don't over isolate. Love, p, h, and g, mmt Late 2023- gone to emeritus status, inactive, don't @ me, I can check who I've posted on, and I'm not really here like I used to be......thanks. Started with psycho meds/psychiatric care circa 1988. In retrospect, and on contemplation, situational overwhelm. Rounding up to 30 years of medications(30 medication trials, poly-pharmacy maximum was 3 at one time). 5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014) 12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs. My last psycho med ever! Tapered @ 10% every 4 weeks, sometimes 2 weeks to 2016 Dec 16, medication free!! Longer signature post here, with current supplements. Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016. And.....I quit smoking 11/2021. Lapsed. Redo of quit smoking 9/28/2022. Can you say Hallelujah?(took me long enough)💜 None of my posts are intended as medical advice. Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. My success story: Blue skies ahead, clear sailing Link to comment
margaretLO Posted August 26, 2023 Author Share Posted August 26, 2023 Thanks a lot... I am xtreme severe and for what reading my post seems that I am better but I am in a very bad situation. I cant feel time at all, neither surroundings, I have blank mind, I cannt understand world around me, my vision almost doesn't exist, static halos visual snow distorted light sensitivity objects are distorted and colours, shaking vibrating, all blurry, anger issues, I have zero memory both long and short, xtreme fatigue to the point can't go out, some days cant go to toilet, completely lost of personality, not normal behavior and ruminations, my right eye is lagging, aphasia, slurring my speech, generally I am housebound and have trouble even do food shopping.I feel trapped out of reality and live in another planet., severe Dr, pressure at the head and eyes, dry eyes, can't make conversations neither pretend, anhedonia, hearing loss tinnitus ....if I move my head the motion doesn't follow my head movement, cant feel my hands..I don't remember at all how look normal, can't stand more than some minutes, walking feels weird . I feel severely brain damage.... 2015 20mg lexapro 2016 20mg attempt get off one month taper(doctor advice) xtreme terror and anxiety 2016 again 20mg attempt get off extreme ocd and social fear as withdraws 2018 reduce to 10mg ocd visual snow fatigue couldn't learn 2022 10mg get off again one month taper(doctor advice) had reactions on it and inflammation markers... xtreme protracted withdraws symptoms Link to comment
Mentor RachelSusan Posted August 26, 2023 Mentor Share Posted August 26, 2023 @margaretLO I am sorry to hear that things are so bad. These drugs are truly awful and it can take some of us a long time to recover. I too have been in the hell you describe however relief did come to me and it should come to you. Your brain has indeed been injured by the Lexapro but the brain can recover. It does take the brain a very long time though. I am not a health professional in any way. I do not give medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a professional medical practitioner. NEW INFORMATION FOR GABAPENTIN TAPER April 29, 2022 900 mg to 800 mg (11%), May 29, 2022 800 to 700 mg (12.5%), June 20, 2022 700 to 650mg (8%), July 20, 2022 650 to 575 (12%), August 20, 575 to 500 (13%), Sept 20, 2020 500 to 475mg (5%) Nov 7, 2022 475 to 425 (11%), Nov 21, 2022 500mg Medications: Gabapentin, Prednisone 1.5mg a day, Cortisol Inhaler daily. HISTORY FOR ZOLOFT TAPER Feb. 2016 to June 2016 - Was on 150mg Zoloft. Put on Gabapentin at 900mg a day in 2016 due to antidepressant withdrawal. Quit Zoloft (Sertraline) June 2016, reinstated 50mg of Zoloft July 2016. From July 2016 to October 2016 went from 50 mg down 2.3 mg. I up-dosed in November 2016 to 12.5 mg. Held there until January 2017 when I started a much slower taper. STARTING SENSIBLE ZOLOFT TAPERING USING GUIDELINES FROM THIS SITE Dec. 10 2016 - switched to Liquid Zoloft (Sertraline) @ 12.5 mg. Jan. 4, 2020 1.875 mg (6.3%). Jan. 25, 2020 1.75 mg. Feb. 29, 2020 1.625mg (7.10%). Apr. 4, 2020 1.5 mg. May 9, 2020 1.375 mg. June 6, 2020 1.25 mg. (9.10%). July 4, 2020 1.125 mg. (10%). August 15, 2020 1.0 mg. Oct 24, 2020 .875 mg. Nov. 28, 2020 .75mg. Jan 16, 2021 .685mg (8.7%). Feb 13, 2021 .62mg. March 12, 2021 .56mg. May 1, 2021 .375mg. May 29, 2021 .25mg. June 26, 2021 .0125mg. July 25, 2021 .065mg. August 22, 2021 .048mg. October 2, 2021 .043mg. October 10, 2021 .038mg. October 23, 2021 .035mg. October 30, 2021 .032mg. Nov. 13, 2021 .030 mg. Dec 4, 2021 .0285 mg. Dec 11, 2021 .0265 mg. Dec 18, 2021 .0246 mg. Dec 25, 2021 .023mg. Jan 1, 2022. 0 mg. OFF COMPLETELY Link to comment
AmitV Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 On 8/26/2023 at 5:37 PM, margaretLO said: Thanks a lot... I am xtreme severe and for what reading my post seems that I am better but I am in a very bad situation. I cant feel time at all, neither surroundings, I have blank mind, I cannt understand world around me, my vision almost doesn't exist, static halos visual snow distorted light sensitivity objects are distorted and colours, shaking vibrating, all blurry, anger issues, I have zero memory both long and short, xtreme fatigue to the point can't go out, some days cant go to toilet, completely lost of personality, not normal behavior and ruminations, my right eye is lagging, aphasia, slurring my speech, generally I am housebound and have trouble even do food shopping.I feel trapped out of reality and live in another planet., severe Dr, pressure at the head and eyes, dry eyes, can't make conversations neither pretend, anhedonia, hearing loss tinnitus ....if I move my head the motion doesn't follow my head movement, cant feel my hands..I don't remember at all how look normal, can't stand more than some minutes, walking feels weird . I feel severely brain damage.... talk to your neurologist about this. Only a few neurologists have knowledge in this area. I have this and very slowly getting better. https://www.visualsnowinitiative.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/visual-snow-diagnostic-criteria-v10.pdf https://vestibular.org/blog/visual-snow-syndrome/ Jan 1-15 2023 - Ativan 2mg Jan 1-12 2023 - Trintellix 10mg Jan 14-16 2023 - Escitalopram 5mg Jan 15-Jan 20 2023 - Ativan 1mg Jan 21-30 2023 - Ativan 0.5mg Slow taper down - 5 days 0.5mg once a day. Then 0.5 mg every other day for 3 doses. Jan 17- Feb 04 2023 - Escitalopram 10mg Feb 05-14 2023 - 5mg for 5 days, then 2.5mg for 4 days. Feb 15 - Zero Mg Escitalopram Mar 11, 2023 - Propranolol 20mg Link to comment
margaretLO Posted August 29, 2023 Author Share Posted August 29, 2023 On 8/27/2023 at 2:50 AM, RachelSusan said: @margaretLO I am sorry to hear that things are so bad. These drugs are truly awful and it can take some of us a long time to recover. I too have been in the hell you describe however relief did come to me and it should come to you. Your brain has indeed been injured by the Lexapro but the brain can recover. It does take the brain a very long time though. Thanks a lot ♥️ I appreciate that 1 2015 20mg lexapro 2016 20mg attempt get off one month taper(doctor advice) xtreme terror and anxiety 2016 again 20mg attempt get off extreme ocd and social fear as withdraws 2018 reduce to 10mg ocd visual snow fatigue couldn't learn 2022 10mg get off again one month taper(doctor advice) had reactions on it and inflammation markers... xtreme protracted withdraws symptoms Link to comment
margaretLO Posted August 29, 2023 Author Share Posted August 29, 2023 8 hours ago, AmitV said: talk to your neurologist about this. Only a few neurologists have knowledge in this area. I have this and very slowly getting better. https://www.visualsnowinitiative.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/visual-snow-diagnostic-criteria-v10.pdf https://vestibular.org/blog/visual-snow-syndrome/ Thanks a lot 2015 20mg lexapro 2016 20mg attempt get off one month taper(doctor advice) xtreme terror and anxiety 2016 again 20mg attempt get off extreme ocd and social fear as withdraws 2018 reduce to 10mg ocd visual snow fatigue couldn't learn 2022 10mg get off again one month taper(doctor advice) had reactions on it and inflammation markers... xtreme protracted withdraws symptoms Link to comment
margaretLO Posted November 18, 2023 Author Share Posted November 18, 2023 Hello! I know that it doesn't matter now but I have curiosity. I want to ask about 4 months off lexapro I got very vivid contrast colours and severe light sensitivity, I become bedbound with fatigue. With your experience here did anyone have this from withdraws or drugs? I am afraid I got toxicity from tumeric, which I saw need cyp2d6 (poor metabolizer) and I took to big amounts because I didn't know. I feel guilty... 2015 20mg lexapro 2016 20mg attempt get off one month taper(doctor advice) xtreme terror and anxiety 2016 again 20mg attempt get off extreme ocd and social fear as withdraws 2018 reduce to 10mg ocd visual snow fatigue couldn't learn 2022 10mg get off again one month taper(doctor advice) had reactions on it and inflammation markers... xtreme protracted withdraws symptoms Link to comment
Jakeblack14 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Hey @margaretLO, I am exactly 4 months off of Lexapro. Light sestivity and color contrast are not as prevelent, I would more describe mine more as sound sensitivity and just any kind of stimuli, but the others are not uncommon. Personally, Fatigue and Nuesea have been my biggest physical symtoms. Here is a list that we can use to visualize most common symtoms. Please note, this is not an “all inclusive” list. There are some symtoms you may exeperience that are not on this list and it may be helpful to ask your peers like you have, about symtoms you are experiencing. https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/1779-using-dr-glenmullens-checklist-to-track-symptom-patterns-and-progress/#comment-23798 We all make mistakes in this journey, so we recognize them, pick ourselves back up, and move forward. Good luck. I am not a medical professional - my advice is only based on my experience. 2016 - Lexapro 10mg, Klonapin as needed .5mg - Later Lexapro bumped to 20mg 2020 - (March) Lexapro cold Turkey attempt, reinstated 1 month Later along with Prozac. Tried Buspar, Zoloft and a couple other drugs that were added and removed within a 2 month period 2021 - (Feb) 15mg -Taper off Lexapro 5mg per psychiatrist suggestion. 2021 - (Feb) 10mg 2021 - (March) back to 20mg 2022 - Attempt Taper off Lexapro 2mg every 4 weeks (March 18mg, April 16mg, May 14mg, June 12mg, July 10mg, August 10mg hold, September 8mg, October 8mg to 10mg, Nov 8mg, Dec 6mg, Jan 4mg) 2023 - January 4mg up to 5mg 2023 - 10 percent brass monkey taper. August 2023 COMPLETELY off medication. April 2024 Currently in protracted antidepressant withdrawal Supplements: omega-3, magnesium glycinate Link to comment
andy96gr Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Hello @margaretLOHHow are you doing? On 11/18/2023 at 2:34 PM, margaretLO said: I am afraid I got toxicity from tumeric, which I saw need cyp2d6 (poor metabolizer) and I took to big amounts because I didn't know. I feel guilty... What is that ?I aslo did a mistake which maybe made things worse ,I took maca and from then on I had very bad symptoms.Should I do that test? What is the meaning of this gene test?I also taking lyrica and everyday is becoming worse annd more worse.Maybe i should do this but which doctor should see this after? •01/2017-12/2022 ~6 Years on Generic Escilitopram (5mg-20mg) because of repetitive panic attacks and anxiety that lead to depression. My tapering was not tapering as I read here. I consider it CT because of wrong directions of docs, I went from 20mg to 5mg in a short amount of time and then jumped to 0mg. •01/07/23 Took maca root powder for pssd for 4 days only which I think worsened my symptoms a lot.(Not sure if that was the cause or what came was supposed to come) •15/07/23-01/08/23 Prebagalin) 2x50mg 01/08/23 - 05/08/23. 75x50mg 06/08/23 - 18/08/23 2x75mg an then reduced 19/09/23 - 23-09 to 75x50mg 24/09/23 - 1/12/23 2x50mg. 1/12/22- ongoing 2x45mg( on first week of December happened a mistake in liquid I made and took 4 times double dose ) 15/01/24 - ongoing occasional 5mg diazepam for anxiety. Link to comment
margaretLO Posted November 19, 2023 Author Share Posted November 19, 2023 13 minutes ago, andy96gr said: Hello @margaretLOHHow are you doing? What is that ?I aslo did a mistake which maybe made things worse ,I took maca and from then on I had very bad symptoms.Should I do that test? What is the meaning of this gene test?I also taking lyrica and everyday is becoming worse annd more worse.Maybe i should do this but which doctor should see this after? Hey! I am not doing well unfortunately! How are you? Its a test show cyp450 enzymes we have in body, which they break medications or herbs or general they are responsible for metabolizing things. I found a online place they do it and called. They came to my house and took saliva for the test 2015 20mg lexapro 2016 20mg attempt get off one month taper(doctor advice) xtreme terror and anxiety 2016 again 20mg attempt get off extreme ocd and social fear as withdraws 2018 reduce to 10mg ocd visual snow fatigue couldn't learn 2022 10mg get off again one month taper(doctor advice) had reactions on it and inflammation markers... xtreme protracted withdraws symptoms Link to comment
margaretLO Posted November 19, 2023 Author Share Posted November 19, 2023 5 hours ago, Jakeblack14 said: Hey @margaretLO, I am exactly 4 months off of Lexapro. Light sestivity and color contrast are not as prevelent, I would more describe mine more as sound sensitivity and just any kind of stimuli, but the others are not uncommon. Personally, Fatigue and Nuesea have been my biggest physical symtoms. Here is a list that we can use to visualize most common symtoms. Please note, this is not an “all inclusive” list. There are some symtoms you may exeperience that are not on this list and it may be helpful to ask your peers like you have, about symtoms you are experiencing. https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/1779-using-dr-glenmullens-checklist-to-track-symptom-patterns-and-progress/#comment-23798 We all make mistakes in this journey, so we recognize them, pick ourselves back up, and move forward. Good luck. Hey! Wish u quick healing! Yes the symptoms are a lot and many include in the list Xx 2015 20mg lexapro 2016 20mg attempt get off one month taper(doctor advice) xtreme terror and anxiety 2016 again 20mg attempt get off extreme ocd and social fear as withdraws 2018 reduce to 10mg ocd visual snow fatigue couldn't learn 2022 10mg get off again one month taper(doctor advice) had reactions on it and inflammation markers... xtreme protracted withdraws symptoms Link to comment
andy96gr Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Feel really sorry for you ,hope you see improvements in the future.Me too , I'm not doing well no idea what is really happening.I have pain all over my body and my cognition is going worse and worse. 31 minutes ago, margaretLO said: cyp450 enzymes On 11/18/2023 at 2:34 PM, margaretLO said: cyp2d6 Are these different or one test? In cyp450test is included cyp2d6? These are two different tests right? You did these both ?And where did you do these? •01/2017-12/2022 ~6 Years on Generic Escilitopram (5mg-20mg) because of repetitive panic attacks and anxiety that lead to depression. My tapering was not tapering as I read here. I consider it CT because of wrong directions of docs, I went from 20mg to 5mg in a short amount of time and then jumped to 0mg. •01/07/23 Took maca root powder for pssd for 4 days only which I think worsened my symptoms a lot.(Not sure if that was the cause or what came was supposed to come) •15/07/23-01/08/23 Prebagalin) 2x50mg 01/08/23 - 05/08/23. 75x50mg 06/08/23 - 18/08/23 2x75mg an then reduced 19/09/23 - 23-09 to 75x50mg 24/09/23 - 1/12/23 2x50mg. 1/12/22- ongoing 2x45mg( on first week of December happened a mistake in liquid I made and took 4 times double dose ) 15/01/24 - ongoing occasional 5mg diazepam for anxiety. Link to comment
andy96gr Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 On 11/18/2023 at 2:34 PM, margaretLO said: afraid I got toxicity from tumeric, which I saw need cyp2d6 (poor metabolizer) and I took to big amounts Cannot understand that? Tumeric is supposed to help with neurotoxicity and toxicity. •01/2017-12/2022 ~6 Years on Generic Escilitopram (5mg-20mg) because of repetitive panic attacks and anxiety that lead to depression. My tapering was not tapering as I read here. I consider it CT because of wrong directions of docs, I went from 20mg to 5mg in a short amount of time and then jumped to 0mg. •01/07/23 Took maca root powder for pssd for 4 days only which I think worsened my symptoms a lot.(Not sure if that was the cause or what came was supposed to come) •15/07/23-01/08/23 Prebagalin) 2x50mg 01/08/23 - 05/08/23. 75x50mg 06/08/23 - 18/08/23 2x75mg an then reduced 19/09/23 - 23-09 to 75x50mg 24/09/23 - 1/12/23 2x50mg. 1/12/22- ongoing 2x45mg( on first week of December happened a mistake in liquid I made and took 4 times double dose ) 15/01/24 - ongoing occasional 5mg diazepam for anxiety. Link to comment
margaretLO Posted November 19, 2023 Author Share Posted November 19, 2023 23 minutes ago, andy96gr said: Feel really sorry for you ,hope you see improvements in the future.Me too , I'm not doing well no idea what is really happening.I have pain all over my body and my cognition is going worse and worse. Are these different or one test? In cyp450test is included cyp2d6? These are two different tests right? You did these both ?And where did you do these? Thanks a lot. Wish u spread recovery. About the test, it's one general cyp450 which Includes cyp2d6 too and some other enzymes. I read tumeric needs cyp2d6 which I don't have... So most possible to get toxicity 2015 20mg lexapro 2016 20mg attempt get off one month taper(doctor advice) xtreme terror and anxiety 2016 again 20mg attempt get off extreme ocd and social fear as withdraws 2018 reduce to 10mg ocd visual snow fatigue couldn't learn 2022 10mg get off again one month taper(doctor advice) had reactions on it and inflammation markers... xtreme protracted withdraws symptoms Link to comment
andy96gr Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Thank you @margaretLO,I wish you the same ,its frustrating all this situation.Where did you do this test Im searching and cannot find here in Greece anywhere to do this.And thank you for your answering 😊. •01/2017-12/2022 ~6 Years on Generic Escilitopram (5mg-20mg) because of repetitive panic attacks and anxiety that lead to depression. My tapering was not tapering as I read here. I consider it CT because of wrong directions of docs, I went from 20mg to 5mg in a short amount of time and then jumped to 0mg. •01/07/23 Took maca root powder for pssd for 4 days only which I think worsened my symptoms a lot.(Not sure if that was the cause or what came was supposed to come) •15/07/23-01/08/23 Prebagalin) 2x50mg 01/08/23 - 05/08/23. 75x50mg 06/08/23 - 18/08/23 2x75mg an then reduced 19/09/23 - 23-09 to 75x50mg 24/09/23 - 1/12/23 2x50mg. 1/12/22- ongoing 2x45mg( on first week of December happened a mistake in liquid I made and took 4 times double dose ) 15/01/24 - ongoing occasional 5mg diazepam for anxiety. Link to comment
margaretLO Posted November 21, 2023 Author Share Posted November 21, 2023 On 11/19/2023 at 10:12 PM, andy96gr said: Thank you @margaretLO,I wish you the same ,its frustrating all this situation.Where did you do this test Im searching and cannot find here in Greece anywhere to do this.And thank you for your answering 😊. There is two companies in Athens they do it. I ll pm 2015 20mg lexapro 2016 20mg attempt get off one month taper(doctor advice) xtreme terror and anxiety 2016 again 20mg attempt get off extreme ocd and social fear as withdraws 2018 reduce to 10mg ocd visual snow fatigue couldn't learn 2022 10mg get off again one month taper(doctor advice) had reactions on it and inflammation markers... xtreme protracted withdraws symptoms Link to comment
margaretLO Posted November 28, 2023 Author Share Posted November 28, 2023 Literally I feel mental after disconnection lexapro. I can't stop write to my ex even we broke up, I ruminate constantly about how he gaslighted and I don't lose the chance to send msg. I can't hold myself. I feel crazy. I never ever annoy anyone when I was normal. I cant think clear and nornal. I am weird and confused all the time. I lost completely myself and Noone will believe me for the mental issues. Even my family and friends believed me for the cognitive and psychical issues. I have anger out of nowhere. I feel dangerous. Not in a way I ll hurt someone, in a way I am not acting normal. I don't want this anymore. I think my life ie is over. Surviving every second... 2015 20mg lexapro 2016 20mg attempt get off one month taper(doctor advice) xtreme terror and anxiety 2016 again 20mg attempt get off extreme ocd and social fear as withdraws 2018 reduce to 10mg ocd visual snow fatigue couldn't learn 2022 10mg get off again one month taper(doctor advice) had reactions on it and inflammation markers... xtreme protracted withdraws symptoms Link to comment
Jakeblack14 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Hey @margaretLO, Sorry its been such a beating recently. How long have you been off of Lexapro now/how long has this wave been for you? Keep taking it one day at a time. We are with ya. 1 I am not a medical professional - my advice is only based on my experience. 2016 - Lexapro 10mg, Klonapin as needed .5mg - Later Lexapro bumped to 20mg 2020 - (March) Lexapro cold Turkey attempt, reinstated 1 month Later along with Prozac. Tried Buspar, Zoloft and a couple other drugs that were added and removed within a 2 month period 2021 - (Feb) 15mg -Taper off Lexapro 5mg per psychiatrist suggestion. 2021 - (Feb) 10mg 2021 - (March) back to 20mg 2022 - Attempt Taper off Lexapro 2mg every 4 weeks (March 18mg, April 16mg, May 14mg, June 12mg, July 10mg, August 10mg hold, September 8mg, October 8mg to 10mg, Nov 8mg, Dec 6mg, Jan 4mg) 2023 - January 4mg up to 5mg 2023 - 10 percent brass monkey taper. August 2023 COMPLETELY off medication. April 2024 Currently in protracted antidepressant withdrawal Supplements: omega-3, magnesium glycinate Link to comment
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