checco Posted January 22 Author Share Posted January 22 Today was a very bad day after going out for a drive I came back exhausted I went to bed and I went into a sort of sleep-wake state due to strong anxiety I developed some internal tremors that haven't happened to me since I stopped mirtazapine without tapering off, I think it's having stopped consuming porn and sex, it was a real addiction then I think yes It's okay to even feel the abstinence from the drugs, then I'm in a period where I can't get anything right, it seems like I'm like an elephant in a glass shop, as soon as I move I cause damage, I'll have to try to staying isolated as much as possible is hoping that the storm will pass and I will be stronger as time passes (any advice would be welcome)Even though I'm suffering a lot in this period I don't know what to do, many psychologists say not to make any decisions when you're sick but it seems like they made them for me, I don't think so. more suicidal but living like this isn't life, last night I kept driving around in the car the phone rings and I had a jolt and yet I don't realize I'm so tense 5 minutes earlier it seems like I have the courage to face a lion and 5 minutes later a little lamb impresses me, this has been going on for a long time perhaps even before the drugs but the drugs have made him stronger.I wish I had done many things differently even though not all of them are entirely my responsibility, I find no relief in anything now I continue to move forward knowing that I no longer have time now I have never I no longer want to give up and I don't want to become what many people now think of me. I have completely lost my appetite completely without libido and no erection and this makes me more vulnerable he is submissive I don't react he has no stimulus and I have social anxiety that I can keep under control for now, I can't do much in this period I have to do things but I continue to procrastinate, I think of the people who are no longer here and of the old days now there is none of that anymore the house was always full of light people who talked and joked they always cooked something the table was set there was life but now there are three of us left, each of us eating on our own, it's a gloomy atmosphere as if we were waiting for death, there is no dialogue other than skirmishes I have real and proper spite, it's no longer like before where yes we joked yes we laughed and there was love and hope for the future. Maybe it's the life I chose for myself but nothing comes to me differently, many people who I considered friends were only waiting for my fall to devour me, (I guard myself from enemies and God guards me from friends)😓. I know that living in the past is not very healthy and it leads to depression but rumination takes me there. I know that person knew he was hurting me a lot with what he did. I get thoughts of revenge that I try to chase away. I thought he was a second father but he isn't. he wouldn't have been worthy of cleaning my father's shoes, he proved to be a coward and an unscrupulous person, you can see his resentment towards me, that whole family is like that. I had to to get my driving license and I asked my son to act as a licensed companion to practice I did it also because he is someone who never leaves the house to be together and to see him after a start for example being a bit pretentious and having tantrums so I distanced myself a bit during that period then I had a bad car accident and I saw that none of them came to visit me in hospital after I even tried again but I gave up, I think they thought I exploited him but I also did it to get him out of the house and we had a good time for a while, I thought it was a good deed but instead I yes it backfired, I will be careful in the future with people who have a lot of problems you have to be very careful they can vent their frustration on you. I will try to move forward and maintain the good intentions of 2024, although very tough, seem to be becoming more resilient than in the past. I started very young taking psychotropic drugs with various suspensions and withdrawals mistaken for relapses, I don't know if this can affect what happens to me now. I can neither The drug nor the dose. 2013-2014 wellbutrin (I don't remember the dose) 2015-2016 brintellix 30 mg 2016-2017 sertraline 50 mg I stopped taking it and had a seizure which was mistaken for a flare of the disease replaced with mirtazapine in 2018 30mg at 10.30pm then stopped taking it because I was gaining weight Too september 2019 has november severe withdrawal symptoms anxiety i woke up shaking then found this site reverted to 3mg mirtazapine and within 15 minutes all symptoms vanished.After stabilizing for 4 months I began to reduce by 10% every 4 weeks manageable symptoms end of reduction 28 January 2022 Last dose of mirtazapine January 27 0.1 mg manageable symptoms until July 2023 where a wave caused by Stress made me incapacitated in bed. I take micro doses of lamictal 0.5mg for 4 days 0.7mg for 4 days 1.2 for 4 days 1.7 for 4 days the dose that seems to help is 2.2mg more than this starts to cause problems.Now down to 2mg Link to comment
checco Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 Today I'm not very well, I could barely get out of bed just because it was an emergency, I'm not very mentally clear and therefore I have to try to stay isolated as much as possible not to what I'm experiencing was enough, and even the imbeciles joined in, even if I'm alone I'm nervous, in fact I'm more nervous when I'm alone in bed while I go out I give myself a composure, the more I try to understand the psyche, the more strange it turns out to be, many times the worst means that you are going towards the right path, other times excessive commitment can be harmful. I started very young taking psychotropic drugs with various suspensions and withdrawals mistaken for relapses, I don't know if this can affect what happens to me now. I can neither The drug nor the dose. 2013-2014 wellbutrin (I don't remember the dose) 2015-2016 brintellix 30 mg 2016-2017 sertraline 50 mg I stopped taking it and had a seizure which was mistaken for a flare of the disease replaced with mirtazapine in 2018 30mg at 10.30pm then stopped taking it because I was gaining weight Too september 2019 has november severe withdrawal symptoms anxiety i woke up shaking then found this site reverted to 3mg mirtazapine and within 15 minutes all symptoms vanished.After stabilizing for 4 months I began to reduce by 10% every 4 weeks manageable symptoms end of reduction 28 January 2022 Last dose of mirtazapine January 27 0.1 mg manageable symptoms until July 2023 where a wave caused by Stress made me incapacitated in bed. I take micro doses of lamictal 0.5mg for 4 days 0.7mg for 4 days 1.2 for 4 days 1.7 for 4 days the dose that seems to help is 2.2mg more than this starts to cause problems.Now down to 2mg Link to comment
checco Posted January 24 Author Share Posted January 24 Today went better than yesterday even though I'm not very well but I went out I drove for at least 2 hours I needed the cable to charge my phone and I went out for that, I was in company we had I know they also suffer to see me like this. I was quite calm. I treated him with respect. I accompanied him into a large shop because she gets agitated and can't find what she needs to find, but the I love you very much and it is much stronger than I think if it weren't there maybe I wouldn't be here, at this moment after a quiet day the symptoms manifest themselves bringing me a stat of fight or flight which is very devastating for my situation. I still don't have the strength to get up but sooner or later I will have to face the reality which is not very encouraging for my life and my future for now I have chosen to live even if I am just surviving perhaps I have chosen to live more for the people who love me than for me they would be devastating they have seen too many tragedies I want to save them this then they need me they only have me, I hope there is a future for me for now only threats and when you are in this state of vulnerability it's not the best. Keeping a diary helps me track symptoms. I started very young taking psychotropic drugs with various suspensions and withdrawals mistaken for relapses, I don't know if this can affect what happens to me now. I can neither The drug nor the dose. 2013-2014 wellbutrin (I don't remember the dose) 2015-2016 brintellix 30 mg 2016-2017 sertraline 50 mg I stopped taking it and had a seizure which was mistaken for a flare of the disease replaced with mirtazapine in 2018 30mg at 10.30pm then stopped taking it because I was gaining weight Too september 2019 has november severe withdrawal symptoms anxiety i woke up shaking then found this site reverted to 3mg mirtazapine and within 15 minutes all symptoms vanished.After stabilizing for 4 months I began to reduce by 10% every 4 weeks manageable symptoms end of reduction 28 January 2022 Last dose of mirtazapine January 27 0.1 mg manageable symptoms until July 2023 where a wave caused by Stress made me incapacitated in bed. I take micro doses of lamictal 0.5mg for 4 days 0.7mg for 4 days 1.2 for 4 days 1.7 for 4 days the dose that seems to help is 2.2mg more than this starts to cause problems.Now down to 2mg Link to comment
checco Posted January 25 Author Share Posted January 25 Today I tried to take something to raise testosterone hoping that it would cheer me up a bit, reading another forum of a person who uses it it occurred to me that I too had a supplement similar I had stopped it in the past because it was having negative effects, now who knows maybe it will help me recover since I already had it I didn't have to spend money maybe a help from the universe who knows! I started very young taking psychotropic drugs with various suspensions and withdrawals mistaken for relapses, I don't know if this can affect what happens to me now. I can neither The drug nor the dose. 2013-2014 wellbutrin (I don't remember the dose) 2015-2016 brintellix 30 mg 2016-2017 sertraline 50 mg I stopped taking it and had a seizure which was mistaken for a flare of the disease replaced with mirtazapine in 2018 30mg at 10.30pm then stopped taking it because I was gaining weight Too september 2019 has november severe withdrawal symptoms anxiety i woke up shaking then found this site reverted to 3mg mirtazapine and within 15 minutes all symptoms vanished.After stabilizing for 4 months I began to reduce by 10% every 4 weeks manageable symptoms end of reduction 28 January 2022 Last dose of mirtazapine January 27 0.1 mg manageable symptoms until July 2023 where a wave caused by Stress made me incapacitated in bed. I take micro doses of lamictal 0.5mg for 4 days 0.7mg for 4 days 1.2 for 4 days 1.7 for 4 days the dose that seems to help is 2.2mg more than this starts to cause problems.Now down to 2mg Link to comment
checco Posted January 26 Author Share Posted January 26 Things are improving but I doubt it's the supplement on the other hand I woke up shaking I think I won't take it today and let's see how it goes the situation continues to improve. I started very young taking psychotropic drugs with various suspensions and withdrawals mistaken for relapses, I don't know if this can affect what happens to me now. I can neither The drug nor the dose. 2013-2014 wellbutrin (I don't remember the dose) 2015-2016 brintellix 30 mg 2016-2017 sertraline 50 mg I stopped taking it and had a seizure which was mistaken for a flare of the disease replaced with mirtazapine in 2018 30mg at 10.30pm then stopped taking it because I was gaining weight Too september 2019 has november severe withdrawal symptoms anxiety i woke up shaking then found this site reverted to 3mg mirtazapine and within 15 minutes all symptoms vanished.After stabilizing for 4 months I began to reduce by 10% every 4 weeks manageable symptoms end of reduction 28 January 2022 Last dose of mirtazapine January 27 0.1 mg manageable symptoms until July 2023 where a wave caused by Stress made me incapacitated in bed. I take micro doses of lamictal 0.5mg for 4 days 0.7mg for 4 days 1.2 for 4 days 1.7 for 4 days the dose that seems to help is 2.2mg more than this starts to cause problems.Now down to 2mg Link to comment
checco Posted January 26 Author Share Posted January 26 I'm following the good resolutions of 2024, no porn is no sex, especially paid sex, perhaps what I'm experiencing right now is also due to the lack of dopamine due to these activity but I don't intend to go back even if it's very hard after this morning I was shaking I looked for porn withdrawal symptoms and they match perfectly anhedonia, anxiety, depression inability to feel pleasure in anything else. I will continue and I won't go back even though many now look at me with contempt where I live I won't let myself be brought down like in the past and I will continue to look for a better version of me, today I had some strange tremors in the morning and afternoon while I was trying to fall asleep, they are very disturbing, all in all it seems to improve the situation I hope to recover and to recover my life worth living and itself for now I will have to suffer patience I will overcome it. I started very young taking psychotropic drugs with various suspensions and withdrawals mistaken for relapses, I don't know if this can affect what happens to me now. I can neither The drug nor the dose. 2013-2014 wellbutrin (I don't remember the dose) 2015-2016 brintellix 30 mg 2016-2017 sertraline 50 mg I stopped taking it and had a seizure which was mistaken for a flare of the disease replaced with mirtazapine in 2018 30mg at 10.30pm then stopped taking it because I was gaining weight Too september 2019 has november severe withdrawal symptoms anxiety i woke up shaking then found this site reverted to 3mg mirtazapine and within 15 minutes all symptoms vanished.After stabilizing for 4 months I began to reduce by 10% every 4 weeks manageable symptoms end of reduction 28 January 2022 Last dose of mirtazapine January 27 0.1 mg manageable symptoms until July 2023 where a wave caused by Stress made me incapacitated in bed. I take micro doses of lamictal 0.5mg for 4 days 0.7mg for 4 days 1.2 for 4 days 1.7 for 4 days the dose that seems to help is 2.2mg more than this starts to cause problems.Now down to 2mg Link to comment
Moderator Go2zero Posted January 27 Moderator Share Posted January 27 Hi Checco, you seem to be doing very well. What a power to keep going in your OWN direction. What a great progress have you made since you joined this community! 🙏 1 1993 Anafranil (Clomipramine) for a few months. Later in 1993 Paxil for a few months 1993- 2006 No medication 2006 Effexor, Cymbalta, some Benzo’s. All for short periods. Later in 2006 Lexapro (escitalopram) 10 mg and shortly after Wellbutrin XR 150mg, against side effects Lexapro Since 2006 until end of 2015: Several times on and off Lexapro and Wellbutrin and several slight dosage changes. Mostly taken dosages: 5mg Lexapro and 150mg Wellbutrin 2016 Dosage change Lexapro from 5mg to 2,5 mg. Wellbutrin stayed om 150mg November 2016 – April 2017 Down from 2,5mg to 0,6mg Lexapro (in steps) without much problems. Wellbutrin down from 150mg to 66mg. Also without much problems. April 2017 – March 2019 Lexapro 0,6 mg April 2017 - August 2018 Wellbutrin in small steps down from 66mg in to 37,5 mg . Quite heavy WD after each step. March 2019 – May 2019 Lexapro down from 0,6 to 0,3mg then Prozac to 0,6 mg switch because severe discontinuation effects (may also have been from Wellbutrin..) Wellbutrin down from 37,5mg to 35,3mg October 2019 Seroquel 12,5 mg for 4 weeks because of extreme sleeping problems, then weaning off in 2 weeks Prozac up dosage to 1,2 mg March 2020 Wellbutrin in 2 steps down from 35,3mg to 33,3mg Extreme withdrawal effects during 8 months. Stopped tapering Wellbutrin until total off Prozac. February 2020 – November 2020 Prozac down in steps from 1,2mg to 0,57mg. Jan 2021 : Prozac down to: 0,55> 0,53>0,51mg, Feb 0,47mg , Mar 0,42mg, Apr 0,37, longer hold because of WD symptoms July 0,36 and hold again, Sept 19 0,35, Sept 26 0,34mg, Oct 3 0,33mg Long hold of 172 days until March 2022 January 20, 2022: Wellbutrin from 33,3 to 32,3mg March 22, 2022 Prozac down from 0,33mg to: 0,30mg, Apr 0,29, May 0,28, 0,27, June 0,26, 0,25, July 0,24, 0,23, 0,22, 0,21, Aug 0,20, 0,19 Sep 0,18, Oct 0,17. 0,16, 0,15, Nov 0,14 Jan 2023 0,13, 0,12, 0,11 Feb 0,10, 0,09 Mar 0,08 , June 0,07 , July 0,06, 0,05, Aug 0,04, 0,03, Sept 0,026, 0,024 Nov 0,022, 0,019, 0,016, 0,013 Dec 0,012, 0,011, 0,010, 0,009 Jan 2024 0,008, 0,007, 0,006, 0,005, 0,004, 0,003, 0,002, 0,001, Feb 0,0007. 0,0005, 0,0003, 0,0001, Feb 23, 2024: 0,00000 Wellbutrin resume tapering: Apr 2024 31,6mg, 30,8, 30,0 , May 29,1, Supplements: Fish Oil (3000mg), Magnesium 100 mg, 2 drops of Lavender Oil, only when feeling extreme anxiety. 50mg of L-Theanine only when severe discontinuation effects caused by Wellbutrin Please note this is NOT a medical advice. Discuss all your medical issues with a doctor who understands psychical drugs and really knows how to withdraw from them. I wish that you will find one. Link to comment
checco Posted January 27 Author Share Posted January 27 10 hours ago, Go2zero said: Ciao Checco, sembra che tu stia molto bene. Che potere andare avanti nella TUA PROPRIA direzione. Quanti grandi progressi hai fatto da quando ti sei unito a questa comunità! 🙏 Thank you for your interest today went better than yesterday I decided to cut out my bad habits and live a healthier life now after 2 weeks of being very tired now it's okay improving. I started very young taking psychotropic drugs with various suspensions and withdrawals mistaken for relapses, I don't know if this can affect what happens to me now. I can neither The drug nor the dose. 2013-2014 wellbutrin (I don't remember the dose) 2015-2016 brintellix 30 mg 2016-2017 sertraline 50 mg I stopped taking it and had a seizure which was mistaken for a flare of the disease replaced with mirtazapine in 2018 30mg at 10.30pm then stopped taking it because I was gaining weight Too september 2019 has november severe withdrawal symptoms anxiety i woke up shaking then found this site reverted to 3mg mirtazapine and within 15 minutes all symptoms vanished.After stabilizing for 4 months I began to reduce by 10% every 4 weeks manageable symptoms end of reduction 28 January 2022 Last dose of mirtazapine January 27 0.1 mg manageable symptoms until July 2023 where a wave caused by Stress made me incapacitated in bed. I take micro doses of lamictal 0.5mg for 4 days 0.7mg for 4 days 1.2 for 4 days 1.7 for 4 days the dose that seems to help is 2.2mg more than this starts to cause problems.Now down to 2mg Link to comment
Moderator Go2zero Posted January 27 Moderator Share Posted January 27 9 minutes ago, checco said: I decided to cut out my bad habits and live a healthier life now after 2 weeks of being very tired now it's okay improving. A very good decision I think! This will really help to stay on your right track! 🙏 1 1993 Anafranil (Clomipramine) for a few months. Later in 1993 Paxil for a few months 1993- 2006 No medication 2006 Effexor, Cymbalta, some Benzo’s. All for short periods. Later in 2006 Lexapro (escitalopram) 10 mg and shortly after Wellbutrin XR 150mg, against side effects Lexapro Since 2006 until end of 2015: Several times on and off Lexapro and Wellbutrin and several slight dosage changes. Mostly taken dosages: 5mg Lexapro and 150mg Wellbutrin 2016 Dosage change Lexapro from 5mg to 2,5 mg. Wellbutrin stayed om 150mg November 2016 – April 2017 Down from 2,5mg to 0,6mg Lexapro (in steps) without much problems. Wellbutrin down from 150mg to 66mg. Also without much problems. April 2017 – March 2019 Lexapro 0,6 mg April 2017 - August 2018 Wellbutrin in small steps down from 66mg in to 37,5 mg . Quite heavy WD after each step. March 2019 – May 2019 Lexapro down from 0,6 to 0,3mg then Prozac to 0,6 mg switch because severe discontinuation effects (may also have been from Wellbutrin..) Wellbutrin down from 37,5mg to 35,3mg October 2019 Seroquel 12,5 mg for 4 weeks because of extreme sleeping problems, then weaning off in 2 weeks Prozac up dosage to 1,2 mg March 2020 Wellbutrin in 2 steps down from 35,3mg to 33,3mg Extreme withdrawal effects during 8 months. Stopped tapering Wellbutrin until total off Prozac. February 2020 – November 2020 Prozac down in steps from 1,2mg to 0,57mg. Jan 2021 : Prozac down to: 0,55> 0,53>0,51mg, Feb 0,47mg , Mar 0,42mg, Apr 0,37, longer hold because of WD symptoms July 0,36 and hold again, Sept 19 0,35, Sept 26 0,34mg, Oct 3 0,33mg Long hold of 172 days until March 2022 January 20, 2022: Wellbutrin from 33,3 to 32,3mg March 22, 2022 Prozac down from 0,33mg to: 0,30mg, Apr 0,29, May 0,28, 0,27, June 0,26, 0,25, July 0,24, 0,23, 0,22, 0,21, Aug 0,20, 0,19 Sep 0,18, Oct 0,17. 0,16, 0,15, Nov 0,14 Jan 2023 0,13, 0,12, 0,11 Feb 0,10, 0,09 Mar 0,08 , June 0,07 , July 0,06, 0,05, Aug 0,04, 0,03, Sept 0,026, 0,024 Nov 0,022, 0,019, 0,016, 0,013 Dec 0,012, 0,011, 0,010, 0,009 Jan 2024 0,008, 0,007, 0,006, 0,005, 0,004, 0,003, 0,002, 0,001, Feb 0,0007. 0,0005, 0,0003, 0,0001, Feb 23, 2024: 0,00000 Wellbutrin resume tapering: Apr 2024 31,6mg, 30,8, 30,0 , May 29,1, Supplements: Fish Oil (3000mg), Magnesium 100 mg, 2 drops of Lavender Oil, only when feeling extreme anxiety. 50mg of L-Theanine only when severe discontinuation effects caused by Wellbutrin Please note this is NOT a medical advice. Discuss all your medical issues with a doctor who understands psychical drugs and really knows how to withdraw from them. I wish that you will find one. Link to comment
checco Posted January 28 Author Share Posted January 28 Today I managed to do something not very much, I think the energy is returning, I also shaved I hadn't shaved for over a week. Yesterday afternoon I was as tired as if I had been running a marathon these two weeks have exhausted me both physically and mentally it seems to be passing. I didn't eat much in this period, I ate the bare minimum with an effort not to to make things worse, even though there was still a bit of discomfort, I felt a bit vulnerable to stress. Even though I was very ill I didn't fall back into old habits and this is good for me hope for the future. I was thinking that before this wave I had a wolf's appetite, I don't know if it has any meaning. I started very young taking psychotropic drugs with various suspensions and withdrawals mistaken for relapses, I don't know if this can affect what happens to me now. I can neither The drug nor the dose. 2013-2014 wellbutrin (I don't remember the dose) 2015-2016 brintellix 30 mg 2016-2017 sertraline 50 mg I stopped taking it and had a seizure which was mistaken for a flare of the disease replaced with mirtazapine in 2018 30mg at 10.30pm then stopped taking it because I was gaining weight Too september 2019 has november severe withdrawal symptoms anxiety i woke up shaking then found this site reverted to 3mg mirtazapine and within 15 minutes all symptoms vanished.After stabilizing for 4 months I began to reduce by 10% every 4 weeks manageable symptoms end of reduction 28 January 2022 Last dose of mirtazapine January 27 0.1 mg manageable symptoms until July 2023 where a wave caused by Stress made me incapacitated in bed. I take micro doses of lamictal 0.5mg for 4 days 0.7mg for 4 days 1.2 for 4 days 1.7 for 4 days the dose that seems to help is 2.2mg more than this starts to cause problems.Now down to 2mg Link to comment
checco Posted January 29 Author Share Posted January 29 Free thoughts, I noticed that my cleanliness of life is more and more rooted, today I put myself to the test I passed a prostitute with whom I have been with other times, she told me was inviting but it had no effect not long ago I wouldn't have resisted, maybe I'm not as out of control as I thought this gives me hope. I was very foresighted in starting this thing, from the first impact which was devastating now it is giving me less anxiety and more energy, in my life I have always risen from my ashes I am good at this, if I hadn't done this cleanliness in my life I would be at the mercy of events, I wish I had done it sooner now I would be a different person, perhaps all this had to happen to take my life into my own hands. I started very young taking psychotropic drugs with various suspensions and withdrawals mistaken for relapses, I don't know if this can affect what happens to me now. I can neither The drug nor the dose. 2013-2014 wellbutrin (I don't remember the dose) 2015-2016 brintellix 30 mg 2016-2017 sertraline 50 mg I stopped taking it and had a seizure which was mistaken for a flare of the disease replaced with mirtazapine in 2018 30mg at 10.30pm then stopped taking it because I was gaining weight Too september 2019 has november severe withdrawal symptoms anxiety i woke up shaking then found this site reverted to 3mg mirtazapine and within 15 minutes all symptoms vanished.After stabilizing for 4 months I began to reduce by 10% every 4 weeks manageable symptoms end of reduction 28 January 2022 Last dose of mirtazapine January 27 0.1 mg manageable symptoms until July 2023 where a wave caused by Stress made me incapacitated in bed. I take micro doses of lamictal 0.5mg for 4 days 0.7mg for 4 days 1.2 for 4 days 1.7 for 4 days the dose that seems to help is 2.2mg more than this starts to cause problems.Now down to 2mg Link to comment
checco Posted January 29 Author Share Posted January 29 Another thought now for the prostitute I don't feel excitement but compassion, I'm sorry for her situation even though I can't do anything for her she's very young and now he lives only to raise money for drugs and I think he practices unprotected sex, it won't be long before he contracts a disease, he also tried with me and I refused to have sex Not protected. I know they are not people we can trust and they are dangerous but he is still a human being. I started very young taking psychotropic drugs with various suspensions and withdrawals mistaken for relapses, I don't know if this can affect what happens to me now. I can neither The drug nor the dose. 2013-2014 wellbutrin (I don't remember the dose) 2015-2016 brintellix 30 mg 2016-2017 sertraline 50 mg I stopped taking it and had a seizure which was mistaken for a flare of the disease replaced with mirtazapine in 2018 30mg at 10.30pm then stopped taking it because I was gaining weight Too september 2019 has november severe withdrawal symptoms anxiety i woke up shaking then found this site reverted to 3mg mirtazapine and within 15 minutes all symptoms vanished.After stabilizing for 4 months I began to reduce by 10% every 4 weeks manageable symptoms end of reduction 28 January 2022 Last dose of mirtazapine January 27 0.1 mg manageable symptoms until July 2023 where a wave caused by Stress made me incapacitated in bed. I take micro doses of lamictal 0.5mg for 4 days 0.7mg for 4 days 1.2 for 4 days 1.7 for 4 days the dose that seems to help is 2.2mg more than this starts to cause problems.Now down to 2mg Link to comment
checco Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 I have a few ups and downs which are very annoying not to mention the foggy celebration which doesn't give me peace and like sleeping standing up, I've done something but not much. I'm trying to make the time pass, I can't do anything else, I continue to carry forward the good intentions of 2024, when I have a wave I also have erection problems or non-existent sexual stimuli with the windows things seem to be improving also in terms of sexuality.Perhaps the most frustrating thing is earning in the windows and then losing it during a wave, I'm also sleeping little and this also affects in this period I lost a little weight and this is positive the celebrating fog is the most annoying one, first it was anxiety, now it doesn't seem to be so strong even if it comes and goes on the 2nd I have an appointment with my psychiatrist I will tell them about the symptoms but I have lost the hope to get help from these doctors, I do everything secretly from them all the drugs they gave me were so many that my family doctor refused to give me a prescription for them benzodiazepines prescribed by you I would not have taken them anyway as I do not take the other drugs you gave me except lamictal 1ml in the evening last night helped a little. I started very young taking psychotropic drugs with various suspensions and withdrawals mistaken for relapses, I don't know if this can affect what happens to me now. I can neither The drug nor the dose. 2013-2014 wellbutrin (I don't remember the dose) 2015-2016 brintellix 30 mg 2016-2017 sertraline 50 mg I stopped taking it and had a seizure which was mistaken for a flare of the disease replaced with mirtazapine in 2018 30mg at 10.30pm then stopped taking it because I was gaining weight Too september 2019 has november severe withdrawal symptoms anxiety i woke up shaking then found this site reverted to 3mg mirtazapine and within 15 minutes all symptoms vanished.After stabilizing for 4 months I began to reduce by 10% every 4 weeks manageable symptoms end of reduction 28 January 2022 Last dose of mirtazapine January 27 0.1 mg manageable symptoms until July 2023 where a wave caused by Stress made me incapacitated in bed. I take micro doses of lamictal 0.5mg for 4 days 0.7mg for 4 days 1.2 for 4 days 1.7 for 4 days the dose that seems to help is 2.2mg more than this starts to cause problems.Now down to 2mg Link to comment
checco Posted February 2 Author Share Posted February 2 Today I had a visit to the psychiatrist and a center where other patients were also looked after, I heard crying but I didn't see anyone then after a while a girl of about 20 came out supported by her sister and the mother was also there, she was destroyed, she was crying and she couldn't walk or even talk, I understood from the way she moved that she was heavily medicated (I recognize them from afar, those who involve massive doses of drugs) and the ambulance came to take her to a psychiatric ward, after when I got out to pay for parking I saw her sister crying. At the same time there was Another girl who was having her first date, it was a twist of fate, was very similar to the girl who was taken away, I wanted to tell her: get out of here, don't take anything you get. they offer run away from here as fast as you can and don't look back. Maybe because they looked alike and were almost the same age and it was like seeing the before and after treatment, how can you take a mildly depressed person and thus reduce it for life. My situation continues to follow the good intentions of 2024 ups and downs but on the other hand less anxiety and also less depressed, today is one of those days that I could drink 100 coffees and not feel the strange effect of how you go from 100 to 0 in a few hours or a few days. I hope that one day this thing will end you never know how long it will last and tomorrow it will get better or worse, if I could go back I wouldn't take any more drugs. I started very young taking psychotropic drugs with various suspensions and withdrawals mistaken for relapses, I don't know if this can affect what happens to me now. I can neither The drug nor the dose. 2013-2014 wellbutrin (I don't remember the dose) 2015-2016 brintellix 30 mg 2016-2017 sertraline 50 mg I stopped taking it and had a seizure which was mistaken for a flare of the disease replaced with mirtazapine in 2018 30mg at 10.30pm then stopped taking it because I was gaining weight Too september 2019 has november severe withdrawal symptoms anxiety i woke up shaking then found this site reverted to 3mg mirtazapine and within 15 minutes all symptoms vanished.After stabilizing for 4 months I began to reduce by 10% every 4 weeks manageable symptoms end of reduction 28 January 2022 Last dose of mirtazapine January 27 0.1 mg manageable symptoms until July 2023 where a wave caused by Stress made me incapacitated in bed. I take micro doses of lamictal 0.5mg for 4 days 0.7mg for 4 days 1.2 for 4 days 1.7 for 4 days the dose that seems to help is 2.2mg more than this starts to cause problems.Now down to 2mg Link to comment
checco Posted February 3 Author Share Posted February 3 These ups and downs exhaust me, first I'm full of energy and I feel good after a while I become vulnerable to stress again all in the same day. Last night for example I spent 1 hour where I felt normal without any symptoms or strange thoughts it was as if someone had lifted a huge weight off me it was fantastic almost like a religious experienceThis evening, however, after a busy day, I now have anxiety and feel down, even rumination, will it have an end? I started very young taking psychotropic drugs with various suspensions and withdrawals mistaken for relapses, I don't know if this can affect what happens to me now. I can neither The drug nor the dose. 2013-2014 wellbutrin (I don't remember the dose) 2015-2016 brintellix 30 mg 2016-2017 sertraline 50 mg I stopped taking it and had a seizure which was mistaken for a flare of the disease replaced with mirtazapine in 2018 30mg at 10.30pm then stopped taking it because I was gaining weight Too september 2019 has november severe withdrawal symptoms anxiety i woke up shaking then found this site reverted to 3mg mirtazapine and within 15 minutes all symptoms vanished.After stabilizing for 4 months I began to reduce by 10% every 4 weeks manageable symptoms end of reduction 28 January 2022 Last dose of mirtazapine January 27 0.1 mg manageable symptoms until July 2023 where a wave caused by Stress made me incapacitated in bed. I take micro doses of lamictal 0.5mg for 4 days 0.7mg for 4 days 1.2 for 4 days 1.7 for 4 days the dose that seems to help is 2.2mg more than this starts to cause problems.Now down to 2mg Link to comment
checco Posted February 4 Author Share Posted February 4 Today is a bit of a strange day, everything is fine until I lose my energy and we return to low self-esteem etc. I hope that this thing will end over time, with these fluctuations I don't know what to expect situation changes from hour to hour before when I had windows they lasted days weeks now it all happens in one day both the windows and the waves, I don't know until now how I managed to resist, if I hadn't found this site I would have already taken my own life. I'm very stressed and it's very hard for various aspects of my life, everything happens because it's your path you can't escape from life under penalty of an even worse punishment it's life that calls you with sometimes very cruel trials but it shows you the path to follow. My sleep is getting better again this night I slept well and it gives me more serenity. I started very young taking psychotropic drugs with various suspensions and withdrawals mistaken for relapses, I don't know if this can affect what happens to me now. I can neither The drug nor the dose. 2013-2014 wellbutrin (I don't remember the dose) 2015-2016 brintellix 30 mg 2016-2017 sertraline 50 mg I stopped taking it and had a seizure which was mistaken for a flare of the disease replaced with mirtazapine in 2018 30mg at 10.30pm then stopped taking it because I was gaining weight Too september 2019 has november severe withdrawal symptoms anxiety i woke up shaking then found this site reverted to 3mg mirtazapine and within 15 minutes all symptoms vanished.After stabilizing for 4 months I began to reduce by 10% every 4 weeks manageable symptoms end of reduction 28 January 2022 Last dose of mirtazapine January 27 0.1 mg manageable symptoms until July 2023 where a wave caused by Stress made me incapacitated in bed. I take micro doses of lamictal 0.5mg for 4 days 0.7mg for 4 days 1.2 for 4 days 1.7 for 4 days the dose that seems to help is 2.2mg more than this starts to cause problems.Now down to 2mg Link to comment
checco Posted February 6 Author Share Posted February 6 Yesterday I tried Omega-3 again but given the results I have to stop immediately it only made the situation worse, I don't know why they don't always have the same effect on me sometimes they work others don't. I've read other posts on this site that talk about Omega-3s as activators but they don't always have this effect on me. I continue with the good resolutions of 2024, even if it's hard not to use those relief valves to release tension, yesterday I argued with a couple at the checkout of a supermarket just because she was rude, my aggression has always been a problem and now with everything that's happening to me and even worse. The symptoms are fog, celebration, anxiety, invasive thoughts. I think the Omega-3s accentuated the symptoms. Yesterday before taking them I wasn't at these levels, I eat something just to not feel worse (it happened to me that I had a nervous breakdown while fasting). Then I'm going through a very difficult phase in my life and it's hard not to be able to relieve the tension with porn or prostitutes, this stop period of almost 40 days made me understand how much these things had a hold on me, as I refuse to depend on a pill I refuse to depend on those bad habits or compulsive and destructive behaviors. I started very young taking psychotropic drugs with various suspensions and withdrawals mistaken for relapses, I don't know if this can affect what happens to me now. I can neither The drug nor the dose. 2013-2014 wellbutrin (I don't remember the dose) 2015-2016 brintellix 30 mg 2016-2017 sertraline 50 mg I stopped taking it and had a seizure which was mistaken for a flare of the disease replaced with mirtazapine in 2018 30mg at 10.30pm then stopped taking it because I was gaining weight Too september 2019 has november severe withdrawal symptoms anxiety i woke up shaking then found this site reverted to 3mg mirtazapine and within 15 minutes all symptoms vanished.After stabilizing for 4 months I began to reduce by 10% every 4 weeks manageable symptoms end of reduction 28 January 2022 Last dose of mirtazapine January 27 0.1 mg manageable symptoms until July 2023 where a wave caused by Stress made me incapacitated in bed. I take micro doses of lamictal 0.5mg for 4 days 0.7mg for 4 days 1.2 for 4 days 1.7 for 4 days the dose that seems to help is 2.2mg more than this starts to cause problems.Now down to 2mg Link to comment
checco Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 Today was much better the Omega-3s had an effect paradoxically they made me very nervous as if I had drunk 10 coffees, they triggered symptoms like when you are in the first days of abstinence without having gradually tapered off. There seems to be no consequences for now, it seems calm has returned, I'm happy that there were no consequences, perhaps you can also understand how much my nervous system has improved, in the past I wouldn't have recovered like this quickly this current state is a blessing, this is known very well by those who have made a mistake after leaving the drug for example drinking alcohol, heavy training etc... These things leave you destabilized for many days. Today I also did some very stressful things without losing clarity and without excessive anger. For now I'm satisfied and I'm trying to see the small improvements, I still follow the good intentions of 2024, I believe I am proceeding in the right direction, not having fallen back into old habits gives me hope for the future. I started very young taking psychotropic drugs with various suspensions and withdrawals mistaken for relapses, I don't know if this can affect what happens to me now. I can neither The drug nor the dose. 2013-2014 wellbutrin (I don't remember the dose) 2015-2016 brintellix 30 mg 2016-2017 sertraline 50 mg I stopped taking it and had a seizure which was mistaken for a flare of the disease replaced with mirtazapine in 2018 30mg at 10.30pm then stopped taking it because I was gaining weight Too september 2019 has november severe withdrawal symptoms anxiety i woke up shaking then found this site reverted to 3mg mirtazapine and within 15 minutes all symptoms vanished.After stabilizing for 4 months I began to reduce by 10% every 4 weeks manageable symptoms end of reduction 28 January 2022 Last dose of mirtazapine January 27 0.1 mg manageable symptoms until July 2023 where a wave caused by Stress made me incapacitated in bed. I take micro doses of lamictal 0.5mg for 4 days 0.7mg for 4 days 1.2 for 4 days 1.7 for 4 days the dose that seems to help is 2.2mg more than this starts to cause problems.Now down to 2mg Link to comment
checco Posted February 9 Author Share Posted February 9 40 Days from the beginning of 2024 I continue no porn, masturbation, prostitutes, today my brain played tricks on me, as if what I did was useless, I might as well go back to the old ones habits I managed to resist even though it was very difficult. I've noticed that for 3 days I no longer wake up in a panic, even the extreme anxiety I felt before is improving (many forums they say it's testosterone). Not falling into old patterns to alleviate suffering is very hard, but it will pay off in the long run. Sexual behavior began to worsen after many interruptions and cold turkeys from antidepressants and as if my brain was searching for something equally extreme to what was happening to me in order to make sense of my state alteration, when I have no symptoms my sexual behavior is more natural. In many journalistic and scientific studies it is argued that antidepressants have a much greater impact vast on the brain of serotonin alone and that this is unknown both to those who prescribe it and to those who produce it which is worrying and that consumption continues to grow and more and more people they use and psychiatrists continue to prescribe more and more to the same patient. I started very young taking psychotropic drugs with various suspensions and withdrawals mistaken for relapses, I don't know if this can affect what happens to me now. I can neither The drug nor the dose. 2013-2014 wellbutrin (I don't remember the dose) 2015-2016 brintellix 30 mg 2016-2017 sertraline 50 mg I stopped taking it and had a seizure which was mistaken for a flare of the disease replaced with mirtazapine in 2018 30mg at 10.30pm then stopped taking it because I was gaining weight Too september 2019 has november severe withdrawal symptoms anxiety i woke up shaking then found this site reverted to 3mg mirtazapine and within 15 minutes all symptoms vanished.After stabilizing for 4 months I began to reduce by 10% every 4 weeks manageable symptoms end of reduction 28 January 2022 Last dose of mirtazapine January 27 0.1 mg manageable symptoms until July 2023 where a wave caused by Stress made me incapacitated in bed. I take micro doses of lamictal 0.5mg for 4 days 0.7mg for 4 days 1.2 for 4 days 1.7 for 4 days the dose that seems to help is 2.2mg more than this starts to cause problems.Now down to 2mg Link to comment
checco Posted February 10 Author Share Posted February 10 I'm continuing with the good resolutions of 2024 but I've realized that I'm in a compulsion to repeat myself, I'll continue like this it's just a matter of time to go back, I have to change my mentality and consciousness if I want my life to take a different turn. I have moments where I can glimpse the real me conditioned by other factors such as medications. Nothing seems to be going as it should, it's a particular period I'm experiencing, not having sexual stimuli takes away a lot of my self-esteem as a man and it makes me submissive and lazy, I think of the many mistakes I have made in the past and how my life would be today if this had not happened, I think of all the years I have wasted with these drugs and if I succeeded never has to recover, then you also add people of little sensitivity and little intellect who destroy your life I don't understand why fate continues to punish me I'm so tired of all this . I see significant improvements, my anxiety has improved significantly, no anxiety when I wake up, even when I'm driving, I no longer have the fear of someone passing too close to me in their car. Re The anxiety in general has improved a lot even if the fog remains. Celebrating that when I wake up it's even 4 in the morning I can no longer fall asleep then after a few hours sleep returns and last all day and annoying I just want a bit of normality without exaggerated emotions without crazy thoughts, I have decided to change my life in 2024 and I will continue on my path I don't know where it will take me but I prefer this to my old life of laxity in everything. 1 I started very young taking psychotropic drugs with various suspensions and withdrawals mistaken for relapses, I don't know if this can affect what happens to me now. I can neither The drug nor the dose. 2013-2014 wellbutrin (I don't remember the dose) 2015-2016 brintellix 30 mg 2016-2017 sertraline 50 mg I stopped taking it and had a seizure which was mistaken for a flare of the disease replaced with mirtazapine in 2018 30mg at 10.30pm then stopped taking it because I was gaining weight Too september 2019 has november severe withdrawal symptoms anxiety i woke up shaking then found this site reverted to 3mg mirtazapine and within 15 minutes all symptoms vanished.After stabilizing for 4 months I began to reduce by 10% every 4 weeks manageable symptoms end of reduction 28 January 2022 Last dose of mirtazapine January 27 0.1 mg manageable symptoms until July 2023 where a wave caused by Stress made me incapacitated in bed. I take micro doses of lamictal 0.5mg for 4 days 0.7mg for 4 days 1.2 for 4 days 1.7 for 4 days the dose that seems to help is 2.2mg more than this starts to cause problems.Now down to 2mg Link to comment
checco Posted February 14 Author Share Posted February 14 A note for future reference today almost by instinct I was about to open a porn site (I didn't) and I realized that there wasn't a sexual desire but it was boredom, feelings of inferiority and to distract myself from my life and not think about my situation, I think this describes my past I made many bad choices and I didn't take responsibility for my life and this makes me it led to antidepressants which I thought would make things easier for me and yes it turned out to be a boomerang they made everything worse. What can I say again, my cognitive conditions are slow, a little better than in the past but not by much, the anxiety seems to decrease when I am active, when I do nothing it increases both the anxiety and the rumination, I would say that I am improving slowly but I am not taking steps backwards and this is also important. I'm continuing with my resolutions for the year, I believe that this is an incentive for a change of life and perspective, life is not easy, I didn't think I was so conditioned by these bad things habits but I can't go back and keep looking for shortcuts or ways to escape reality. 1 I started very young taking psychotropic drugs with various suspensions and withdrawals mistaken for relapses, I don't know if this can affect what happens to me now. I can neither The drug nor the dose. 2013-2014 wellbutrin (I don't remember the dose) 2015-2016 brintellix 30 mg 2016-2017 sertraline 50 mg I stopped taking it and had a seizure which was mistaken for a flare of the disease replaced with mirtazapine in 2018 30mg at 10.30pm then stopped taking it because I was gaining weight Too september 2019 has november severe withdrawal symptoms anxiety i woke up shaking then found this site reverted to 3mg mirtazapine and within 15 minutes all symptoms vanished.After stabilizing for 4 months I began to reduce by 10% every 4 weeks manageable symptoms end of reduction 28 January 2022 Last dose of mirtazapine January 27 0.1 mg manageable symptoms until July 2023 where a wave caused by Stress made me incapacitated in bed. I take micro doses of lamictal 0.5mg for 4 days 0.7mg for 4 days 1.2 for 4 days 1.7 for 4 days the dose that seems to help is 2.2mg more than this starts to cause problems.Now down to 2mg Link to comment
Gonzo Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Keep it up checco, you're on your way, I see that you're using the website as a journal, same as I do, I think this will help others too. 1 Mid Feb 2017 - Mid March 2017 0.25mg Sertraline March 2017 - last months of 2019 0.50mg Sertraline Last months of 2019 - tappering, cold turkey and reinstating multiple times, decided to not take it any longer (suffering unknown withdrawal) April 2020 - end August 2020 - 0.50mg again, stopped cold turkey Jan/Feb 2021 (Can't remember exactly) - 0.25mg or 0.50mg Sertraline for 1-3 weeks max 0.00mg since August 2020 Link to comment
checco Posted February 15 Author Share Posted February 15 4 hours ago, Gonzo said: Continua così checco, sei sulla buona strada, vedo che usi il sito come un diario, come faccio io, penso che questo aiuterà anche altri. Yes, exactly, it helps me to remember what helped me and what didn't, you can also see the improvements between one post and another.Writing in a diary is a good way to release tension. 1 I started very young taking psychotropic drugs with various suspensions and withdrawals mistaken for relapses, I don't know if this can affect what happens to me now. I can neither The drug nor the dose. 2013-2014 wellbutrin (I don't remember the dose) 2015-2016 brintellix 30 mg 2016-2017 sertraline 50 mg I stopped taking it and had a seizure which was mistaken for a flare of the disease replaced with mirtazapine in 2018 30mg at 10.30pm then stopped taking it because I was gaining weight Too september 2019 has november severe withdrawal symptoms anxiety i woke up shaking then found this site reverted to 3mg mirtazapine and within 15 minutes all symptoms vanished.After stabilizing for 4 months I began to reduce by 10% every 4 weeks manageable symptoms end of reduction 28 January 2022 Last dose of mirtazapine January 27 0.1 mg manageable symptoms until July 2023 where a wave caused by Stress made me incapacitated in bed. I take micro doses of lamictal 0.5mg for 4 days 0.7mg for 4 days 1.2 for 4 days 1.7 for 4 days the dose that seems to help is 2.2mg more than this starts to cause problems.Now down to 2mg Link to comment
checco Posted February 15 Author Share Posted February 15 I didn't sleep much last night maybe 2 hours all in all just a little more anxiety but not excessive, I got rid of all the pornographic DVDs in my possession I've been wanting to make money for a long time Throw it away now, I could use that money. I want to make a clean break with the past, I have tried to do so many times but I have always kept it for the future, but no longer. On YouTube he passed me a video on the causes of death of many porn stars, suicides were the main cause, I believe that if it wasn't such a profitable business few would do it for pleasure. Today was a subdued day, I expected worse, it didn't go as it did in the past when I suffered from insomnia, this also gives me clues that I'm improving. 1 I started very young taking psychotropic drugs with various suspensions and withdrawals mistaken for relapses, I don't know if this can affect what happens to me now. I can neither The drug nor the dose. 2013-2014 wellbutrin (I don't remember the dose) 2015-2016 brintellix 30 mg 2016-2017 sertraline 50 mg I stopped taking it and had a seizure which was mistaken for a flare of the disease replaced with mirtazapine in 2018 30mg at 10.30pm then stopped taking it because I was gaining weight Too september 2019 has november severe withdrawal symptoms anxiety i woke up shaking then found this site reverted to 3mg mirtazapine and within 15 minutes all symptoms vanished.After stabilizing for 4 months I began to reduce by 10% every 4 weeks manageable symptoms end of reduction 28 January 2022 Last dose of mirtazapine January 27 0.1 mg manageable symptoms until July 2023 where a wave caused by Stress made me incapacitated in bed. I take micro doses of lamictal 0.5mg for 4 days 0.7mg for 4 days 1.2 for 4 days 1.7 for 4 days the dose that seems to help is 2.2mg more than this starts to cause problems.Now down to 2mg Link to comment
modelarz71 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Congratulations on your long 46 days of success and struggle. However, if it happens that something doesn't work out don't worry about it too much and again collect another 40 days is your big progress. 1 2022 escitalopram from July 25 2.5 mg, 5 mg, 10 mg August-December- 7.5 mg, 5 mg, (1 month) 2.5 mg - C/T WD 2023 Short reinstatement from WD date: escitalopram May 25-June 12 5 mg, 2.5 mg plus interrupted Reinstatement 24 07.23 0.5mg escitalopram, 18.08.23 0.22 escitalopram, 07.09. 0.28 Now 0.30 mg escitalopram Last year 6 months on escitalopram, I was very agitated, hypomaniacal and with little need for sleep. Since July 2023 reinstated and reduced from 0.50 mg to 0.30 mg Lexapro - difficulty sleeping and lack of sleep, eye pain and IBS. Anhedonia. November 2023 - 0mg Link to comment
checco Posted February 15 Author Share Posted February 15 23 minutes ago, modelarz71 said: Congratulazioni per i tuoi lunghi 46 giorni di successi e lotte. Tuttavia, se succede che qualcosa non funziona, non preoccuparti troppo e accumulare altri 40 giorni sarà il tuo grande progresso. I'm living day by day the only thing I'm sure I don't want to go back to is my old habits. I started very young taking psychotropic drugs with various suspensions and withdrawals mistaken for relapses, I don't know if this can affect what happens to me now. I can neither The drug nor the dose. 2013-2014 wellbutrin (I don't remember the dose) 2015-2016 brintellix 30 mg 2016-2017 sertraline 50 mg I stopped taking it and had a seizure which was mistaken for a flare of the disease replaced with mirtazapine in 2018 30mg at 10.30pm then stopped taking it because I was gaining weight Too september 2019 has november severe withdrawal symptoms anxiety i woke up shaking then found this site reverted to 3mg mirtazapine and within 15 minutes all symptoms vanished.After stabilizing for 4 months I began to reduce by 10% every 4 weeks manageable symptoms end of reduction 28 January 2022 Last dose of mirtazapine January 27 0.1 mg manageable symptoms until July 2023 where a wave caused by Stress made me incapacitated in bed. I take micro doses of lamictal 0.5mg for 4 days 0.7mg for 4 days 1.2 for 4 days 1.7 for 4 days the dose that seems to help is 2.2mg more than this starts to cause problems.Now down to 2mg Link to comment
checco Posted February 16 Author Share Posted February 16 Before finding this site sissi suddenly mirtazapine, everything was fine as I had no symptoms in the period that doctors indicate as withdrawal symptoms I was fine and I thought I was out of danger.But it wasn't like that after a month or more I started to feel restless then it got worse quickly I tried St. John's wort, rhodiola etc... but I was getting worse and worse, I was on the verge of akathisia, I couldn't find peace in any way, I took the drug again and this time I stopped in 2 weeks, reducing the symptoms more slowly.they presented again I thought it was my illness and I took the drug again . Then I tried again more slowly but the symptoms returned after stopping it, I didn't want to believe that I would have to take it for life, I was desperate, I searched on Google and found this site and I understood what was happening, I restored it in the right way and it worked immediately within 10 minutes, all the symptoms disappeared. I think that every time I stopped taking the drugs abruptly, I are penalizing them even today, now that I am no longer on these drugs my problems resurface that I didn't solve when I was sedated but they are waiting for me and they are still the same the drug causes them disappear but it's an illusion I'm still there waiting these drugs have only made me waste time and continue to waste time even today with many problems. I started very young taking psychotropic drugs with various suspensions and withdrawals mistaken for relapses, I don't know if this can affect what happens to me now. I can neither The drug nor the dose. 2013-2014 wellbutrin (I don't remember the dose) 2015-2016 brintellix 30 mg 2016-2017 sertraline 50 mg I stopped taking it and had a seizure which was mistaken for a flare of the disease replaced with mirtazapine in 2018 30mg at 10.30pm then stopped taking it because I was gaining weight Too september 2019 has november severe withdrawal symptoms anxiety i woke up shaking then found this site reverted to 3mg mirtazapine and within 15 minutes all symptoms vanished.After stabilizing for 4 months I began to reduce by 10% every 4 weeks manageable symptoms end of reduction 28 January 2022 Last dose of mirtazapine January 27 0.1 mg manageable symptoms until July 2023 where a wave caused by Stress made me incapacitated in bed. I take micro doses of lamictal 0.5mg for 4 days 0.7mg for 4 days 1.2 for 4 days 1.7 for 4 days the dose that seems to help is 2.2mg more than this starts to cause problems.Now down to 2mg Link to comment
Gonzo Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Beautifully explained. Keep it up checco. 1 Mid Feb 2017 - Mid March 2017 0.25mg Sertraline March 2017 - last months of 2019 0.50mg Sertraline Last months of 2019 - tappering, cold turkey and reinstating multiple times, decided to not take it any longer (suffering unknown withdrawal) April 2020 - end August 2020 - 0.50mg again, stopped cold turkey Jan/Feb 2021 (Can't remember exactly) - 0.25mg or 0.50mg Sertraline for 1-3 weeks max 0.00mg since August 2020 Link to comment
Gonzo Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 checco, I think you described in your last post what this website calls neuroemotions and emotional spirals. But you managed to make a logical, personal and meaningful connection between your emotional reactions when stopping the drug and your past, something that I think lots of people have difficult doing. In my opinion, talking about these difficult emotional experiences as if they're just a symptom of a drug induced neurological disorder is very simplistic, neurological reductionism, as psychiatry does, and not very helpful for recovery. Mid Feb 2017 - Mid March 2017 0.25mg Sertraline March 2017 - last months of 2019 0.50mg Sertraline Last months of 2019 - tappering, cold turkey and reinstating multiple times, decided to not take it any longer (suffering unknown withdrawal) April 2020 - end August 2020 - 0.50mg again, stopped cold turkey Jan/Feb 2021 (Can't remember exactly) - 0.25mg or 0.50mg Sertraline for 1-3 weeks max 0.00mg since August 2020 Link to comment
checco Posted February 16 Author Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, Gonzo said: checco, penso che tu abbia descritto nel tuo ultimo post ciò che questo sito chiama neuroemozioni e spirali emotive. Ma sei riuscito a stabilire un collegamento logico, personale e significativo tra le tue reazioni emotive quando smetti di prendere il farmaco e il tuo passato, qualcosa che penso che molte persone abbiano difficoltà a fare. Secondo me, parlare di queste esperienze emotive difficili come se fossero solo un sintomo di un disturbo neurologico indotto dai farmaci è molto semplicistico, riduzionista neurologico, come fa la psichiatria, e non molto utile per il recupero. That was abstinence not neuro emotions, neuro emotions come later (at least in my case) after leaving the drug after two months I woke up shaking like a leaf this yes it occurs both in withdrawal from alcohol or even from Cocaine it was a more physical discomfort I could not eat or get up from the Bed.The neuro emotions came after brooding over one thought too many for days or weeks, being paranoid about everything, that these drugs have an impact on your nervous system and certainly the psychiatry believes that these drugs restore the chemical balance in the brain, but I say that they create imbalance and something different. I started very young taking psychotropic drugs with various suspensions and withdrawals mistaken for relapses, I don't know if this can affect what happens to me now. I can neither The drug nor the dose. 2013-2014 wellbutrin (I don't remember the dose) 2015-2016 brintellix 30 mg 2016-2017 sertraline 50 mg I stopped taking it and had a seizure which was mistaken for a flare of the disease replaced with mirtazapine in 2018 30mg at 10.30pm then stopped taking it because I was gaining weight Too september 2019 has november severe withdrawal symptoms anxiety i woke up shaking then found this site reverted to 3mg mirtazapine and within 15 minutes all symptoms vanished.After stabilizing for 4 months I began to reduce by 10% every 4 weeks manageable symptoms end of reduction 28 January 2022 Last dose of mirtazapine January 27 0.1 mg manageable symptoms until July 2023 where a wave caused by Stress made me incapacitated in bed. I take micro doses of lamictal 0.5mg for 4 days 0.7mg for 4 days 1.2 for 4 days 1.7 for 4 days the dose that seems to help is 2.2mg more than this starts to cause problems.Now down to 2mg Link to comment
Gonzo Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Yes, but you see, you can make a clear distinction and that is good. What I mean is that not everything is neurological related, that there is more than that, at least for some people, and that the distinction should be made to help people make sense of their experiences better and to have a smoother recovery. Mid Feb 2017 - Mid March 2017 0.25mg Sertraline March 2017 - last months of 2019 0.50mg Sertraline Last months of 2019 - tappering, cold turkey and reinstating multiple times, decided to not take it any longer (suffering unknown withdrawal) April 2020 - end August 2020 - 0.50mg again, stopped cold turkey Jan/Feb 2021 (Can't remember exactly) - 0.25mg or 0.50mg Sertraline for 1-3 weeks max 0.00mg since August 2020 Link to comment
checco Posted February 16 Author Share Posted February 16 9 minutes ago, Gonzo said: Sì, ma vedi, puoi fare una distinzione chiara e questo è positivo. Ciò che intendo è che non tutto è correlato alla neurologia, che c'è di più, almeno per alcune persone, e che la distinzione dovrebbe essere fatta per aiutare le persone a dare un senso migliore alle loro esperienze e ad avere un recupero più agevole. Yes of course, but this happens after some time passes after stopping the drug, I have taken this stuff for more than 20 years and I have taken many types including benzodiazepines and stopped without t many precautions, these drugs are very powerful and it is certainly not known which areas of the brain or nervous system they affect, the brain is a very complex organ that required millions of years to be so advanced, and it is expected that a pill created in two years of research even less does not create damage in this perfect balance which took a long time to be balanced. 1 I started very young taking psychotropic drugs with various suspensions and withdrawals mistaken for relapses, I don't know if this can affect what happens to me now. I can neither The drug nor the dose. 2013-2014 wellbutrin (I don't remember the dose) 2015-2016 brintellix 30 mg 2016-2017 sertraline 50 mg I stopped taking it and had a seizure which was mistaken for a flare of the disease replaced with mirtazapine in 2018 30mg at 10.30pm then stopped taking it because I was gaining weight Too september 2019 has november severe withdrawal symptoms anxiety i woke up shaking then found this site reverted to 3mg mirtazapine and within 15 minutes all symptoms vanished.After stabilizing for 4 months I began to reduce by 10% every 4 weeks manageable symptoms end of reduction 28 January 2022 Last dose of mirtazapine January 27 0.1 mg manageable symptoms until July 2023 where a wave caused by Stress made me incapacitated in bed. I take micro doses of lamictal 0.5mg for 4 days 0.7mg for 4 days 1.2 for 4 days 1.7 for 4 days the dose that seems to help is 2.2mg more than this starts to cause problems.Now down to 2mg Link to comment
Gonzo Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Yes, 100% agree. 1 Mid Feb 2017 - Mid March 2017 0.25mg Sertraline March 2017 - last months of 2019 0.50mg Sertraline Last months of 2019 - tappering, cold turkey and reinstating multiple times, decided to not take it any longer (suffering unknown withdrawal) April 2020 - end August 2020 - 0.50mg again, stopped cold turkey Jan/Feb 2021 (Can't remember exactly) - 0.25mg or 0.50mg Sertraline for 1-3 weeks max 0.00mg since August 2020 Link to comment
checco Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 Today, a little better than yesterday, the right hours of sleep make the difference between feeling good and feeling bad. I continue on my cleansing journey, it seems to be helping me become a better person, I am convinced that the responsibility for these sexual compulsions can be attributed to everyone the years that I have been on drugs have the power to give you the grandeur I believe they also have a weight in sexual impulses. Now many things seem to be going in the right direction, not everything but at least it makes sense, all this time on antidepressants it seemed like nothing made sense as if there was another person in my place who ate my food,who slept in my bed, who used my phone, who spoke for me or made decisions is like waking up from a long hibernation.I knew even before I found this site that to get my life back I would have to quit the drugs and I still didn't know anything about everything I know now I only knew that I had to quit them to r take my life back. 1 I started very young taking psychotropic drugs with various suspensions and withdrawals mistaken for relapses, I don't know if this can affect what happens to me now. I can neither The drug nor the dose. 2013-2014 wellbutrin (I don't remember the dose) 2015-2016 brintellix 30 mg 2016-2017 sertraline 50 mg I stopped taking it and had a seizure which was mistaken for a flare of the disease replaced with mirtazapine in 2018 30mg at 10.30pm then stopped taking it because I was gaining weight Too september 2019 has november severe withdrawal symptoms anxiety i woke up shaking then found this site reverted to 3mg mirtazapine and within 15 minutes all symptoms vanished.After stabilizing for 4 months I began to reduce by 10% every 4 weeks manageable symptoms end of reduction 28 January 2022 Last dose of mirtazapine January 27 0.1 mg manageable symptoms until July 2023 where a wave caused by Stress made me incapacitated in bed. I take micro doses of lamictal 0.5mg for 4 days 0.7mg for 4 days 1.2 for 4 days 1.7 for 4 days the dose that seems to help is 2.2mg more than this starts to cause problems.Now down to 2mg Link to comment
Gonzo Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 I know how you feel, specially the emotional coma/hibernation thing and feeling like it wasn't you the one who experienced all that, but another person. You did good explaining it, definitely you're not alone. 1 Mid Feb 2017 - Mid March 2017 0.25mg Sertraline March 2017 - last months of 2019 0.50mg Sertraline Last months of 2019 - tappering, cold turkey and reinstating multiple times, decided to not take it any longer (suffering unknown withdrawal) April 2020 - end August 2020 - 0.50mg again, stopped cold turkey Jan/Feb 2021 (Can't remember exactly) - 0.25mg or 0.50mg Sertraline for 1-3 weeks max 0.00mg since August 2020 Link to comment
checco Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 Gonzo Now I'm trying to start living again and make sense of everything that happened to me, what I lost and what to do in the future. 1 I started very young taking psychotropic drugs with various suspensions and withdrawals mistaken for relapses, I don't know if this can affect what happens to me now. I can neither The drug nor the dose. 2013-2014 wellbutrin (I don't remember the dose) 2015-2016 brintellix 30 mg 2016-2017 sertraline 50 mg I stopped taking it and had a seizure which was mistaken for a flare of the disease replaced with mirtazapine in 2018 30mg at 10.30pm then stopped taking it because I was gaining weight Too september 2019 has november severe withdrawal symptoms anxiety i woke up shaking then found this site reverted to 3mg mirtazapine and within 15 minutes all symptoms vanished.After stabilizing for 4 months I began to reduce by 10% every 4 weeks manageable symptoms end of reduction 28 January 2022 Last dose of mirtazapine January 27 0.1 mg manageable symptoms until July 2023 where a wave caused by Stress made me incapacitated in bed. I take micro doses of lamictal 0.5mg for 4 days 0.7mg for 4 days 1.2 for 4 days 1.7 for 4 days the dose that seems to help is 2.2mg more than this starts to cause problems.Now down to 2mg Link to comment
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