jfrank17 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 (edited) I'm not sure of the protocol of adding a doctor here (if they need to be contacted and agree to it, etc.?) I would nominate my psychiatrist, Dr. Elizabeth McMasters, from McHenry Community Health Center, McHenry, IL. She has been very sympathetic, and seems to recognize my descriptions as withdrawal syndrome, not relapse. She has been supportive and willing to taper slowly and carefully, and has shown interest when I share things I have learned about withdrawal syndrome. She has never once tried to suggest I need to stay on medication for life, and seems conservative about prescribing. I'm not sure if she would consider herself a withdrawal expert but she does seem more knowledgeable than anyone else I have run into. [below added by admin] Dr. Elizabeth McMasters Pioneer Center for Human Services Main: 815.344.1230 Fax: 815.344.3815 Admissions: 815.759.7204 GetHelp@pioneercenter.org Liberty Square 3901 Mercy Dr McHenry, IL 60050 815-363-9900 4100 Veterans Pkwy Mchenry, IL 60050 (815) 385-6400 YouTube https://youtu.be/AxoFsY4jxDs and an article that mentions her http://www.nwherald.com/mobile/article.xml/articles/2012/06/25/r_4mg0x17_q5szh54sfrzsuw/index.xml Edited May 13, 2015 by Altostrata updated Self-tapered off Effexor after being on for 9 years around 2001 Medication-free until 2006 In 2006 went through divorce and placed on Celexa 20 mg and p.r.n. clonazepam Stayed on 20 mg until 2011 when began cutting in half and taking 10 mg (Didn't really notice withdrawal symptoms) Began to plan to come off in spring/summer 2012, continuing 10 mg Jan/Feb. Tapered to 5 mg March/April (about 1 week mild withdrawal symptoms). Tapered to sliver of tablet, estimated 2-2.5 mg in (1-2 weeks of withdrawal symptoms progressively diminishing and then stopping) May 18, 2012: Stopped Celexa. July 5, 2012: Reinstated Celexa at 5 mg. July 13, 2012: Increased Celexa to 10 mg. August 30, 2012: Increased Celexa 15 mg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted August 24, 2012 Administrator Share Posted August 24, 2012 Thank you, jfrank. I'll contact her if I can and add her to our list. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted August 27, 2012 Administrator Share Posted August 27, 2012 Dr. Terry Lynch http://www.doctorterrylynch.com/ Terry Lynch is a fully registered medical doctor, psychotherapist and author. He worked as a GP for over ten years. He then specialised in mental health, completing an MA in Humanistic and Integrative Psychotherapy at the University of Limerick in 2002. He has worked full-time in mental health for the past ten years, providing a recovery-oriented mental health service in Limerick, Ireland. ANEW Psychotherapy Centre Unit 50, Tait Business Centre Dominic Street, Limerick, Ireland Phone: 353-61-319747 This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted August 30, 2012 Administrator Share Posted August 30, 2012 (edited) Thanks for the reminder about Dr. Garodia, Rhi. I'll add her to our list.Her bio is here http://qcinstitute.org/garodia.htmlContact info from http://www.medfordmd.com/index.php?/MMC/Our_Providers/prachi-garodia-md:Dr. Prachi GarodiaMedford Medical Clinic 555 Black Oak DriveSuite 100Medford, OR 97504Phone (541) 734-3430Fax (541) 734-3638Please let me know if you get any recommendations from Will Hall. Edited September 6, 2014 by Altostrata updated contact information This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted September 3, 2012 Administrator Share Posted September 3, 2012 Libby (Elizabeth) Stuyt, MD Medical Director Circle Program Colorado Mental Health Institute at Pueblo 1600 W. 24th Street Pueblo, Colorado 81003 719 546-4494 From our correspondence: Thanks for writing and making me aware of your web sites. I like what I have seen and think they are great resources. Yes, I gradually taper patients off of psychiatric medications in our program - when they request to get off of medication and when I can convince others to try reduction of their medications. I have seen significant withdrawal symptoms in some people - especially certain SSRIs. I like that you warn people about stopping these medications abruptly. I don't know if you are aware of the company TrueHope ... ? They promote high dose minerals and vitamins for help with psychiatric symptoms. I mention them mainly because they have developed specific protocols to help people coming off psych medications if they get on their vitamin and mineral supplements....the supplements can worsen the withdrawal symptoms from psychiatric medications significantly. This probably happens with other supplements as well and people need to realize this. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbarannamated Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Just clarifying... Dr. Stuyt is cautioning against this and similar regimens..? Pristiq tapered over 8 months ending Spring 2011 after 18 years of polydrugging that began w/Zoloft for fatigue/general malaise (not mood). CURRENT: 1mg Klonopin qhs (SSRI bruxism), 75mg trazodone qhs, various hormonesLitigation for 11 years for Work-related injury, settled 2004. Involuntary medical retirement in 2001 (age 39). 2012 - brain MRI showing diffuse, chronic cerebrovascular damage/demyelination possibly vasculitis/cerebritis. Dx w/autoimmune polyendocrine failure.<p>2013 - Dx w/CNS Sjogren's Lupus (FANA antibodies first appeared in 1997 but missed by doc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted September 4, 2012 Administrator Share Posted September 4, 2012 Yes, I think there was a mistyping in there that muddied the meaning. Dr. Stuyt is cautioning against those supplements. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted September 17, 2012 Administrator Share Posted September 17, 2012 Our colleagues at PatientsRights.org.nz recommend this psychiatrist and psychologist offering natural choices Tony Coates MD http://www.tonycoates.co.nz/profile.html Auckland (09) 376 4249 This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted October 6, 2012 Administrator Share Posted October 6, 2012 MindFreedom Ireland recommends Dr. Terry Lynch in Limerick and Dr Ivor Browne Institute of Psychosocial Medicine Practitioners http://ipmed.org/practitioners.html 2 Eden Park, Summerhill Road, Dun Laoghaire, Co. Dublin, Ireland +353-1-280-0084 This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fj929 Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 (edited) Harold R. Jordan, M.D. 53 Center St Northampton, MA 01060 (413) 586-5555 (Office) 1233 Main St Holyoke, MA 01040 (413) 536-5111 (Office) Dr Jordan is a believer in long term withdrawal from SSRI's. He's a nice guy who is easy to talk to. ADMIN NOTE 04/1719 On 1/31/2019 at 2:00 PM, Rezten said: Here is his current information. I have not spoken with him at this point in time, but am considering giving him a call http://doctorjordan.org Edited April 17, 2019 by Altostrata added note Paxil 10mg 2004-2011 7.5mg 4months 5mg. 4months 2.5mg.8 months no wd issues Dropped pax 4-10-12 5-9-12 started prozac to alleviate symptoms (no relief) 5-22-12 reinstated paxil 2.5mg 5-28-12 5mg pax (couldn't tolerate sides) 6-22-12 Pax 2.5 6-30-12 Pax O Cerebrolysin to help with wd at 29 months. Horrible decision much worse. Still suffering sever Brain fog, Confusion, slow thinking,And just feeling sick and weird (hard to explain),facial twitching, weakness, shaking and jerking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted November 14, 2012 Administrator Share Posted November 14, 2012 (edited) Thank you, Hawk! Christina Lasich, MD 900 East Main Street Suite 200 Grass Valley, CA 95945 (530) 273-8480 http://www.healingwomeninpain.com/ A chronic pain management, Dr. Lasich observed her patients having difficulties in going off antidepressants, specifically, Cymbalta, prescribed for pain. She wrote this article http://www.healthcentral.com/chronic-pain/c/27148/146506/comments She is committed to careful tapering. I am very proud to say our list of doctors is growing! Edited August 21, 2014 by Altostrata updated This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexhex Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Here's a link that may help too: Its from the American Board of Psychiatry and Neurology. They have a searchable database and multiple subspecialties that fit many of our needs. https://application.abpn.com/verifycert/verifyCert.asp?a=4&u=1 Short term low dose Klonopin use back in 2004Acute, protracted withdrawal after discontinuingBegan Lexapro in 2005 to ease Benzo withdrawalTook 2 years to stabilizeRapid taper from Lexapro in July/August 2012Return of anxiety, insomnia and cardiac issuesFailed reinstatement early August 2012Acute withdrawal for 9 months; intermittent symptoms for another 6 Relief on February 9, 2014 after addition of Taurine Almost complete remission of symptoms w/addition of 12.5mg Atenolol daily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted November 15, 2012 Administrator Share Posted November 15, 2012 Thanks, lexhex. Problem is, very few of those docs will understand anything at all about tapering or withdrawal syndrome. If you find any, please let us know. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy131313 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Add David Healy t this list Alto, in the UK. Also I am going to ask him to recommend to me anyone local in england who understands this so I hope to have more names damaged by citalopram - severe suffering for 3 years now...no improvement akathsiia, pgad, dp/dr, terror, and so SO many more daily severly disabled and lost everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted November 25, 2012 Administrator Share Posted November 25, 2012 Excellent idea, Iggy. Please find out how one might make an appointment with Dr. Healy. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted December 29, 2012 Administrator Share Posted December 29, 2012 (edited) A member recommends Dr. Gaertner. He recognized her withdrawal syndrome.Dr. William Ronald Gaertnerhttp://williamrgaertner.md.com/Insight Physicians PC5855 Bremo Rd Ste 210Richmond, VA 23226(804) 282-06551701 Fall Hill Ave Ste 101Fredericksburg, VA 22401-3570(540) 735-98974906 Radford AveRichmond, VA 23230(804) 354-1996Specialties:PsychiatryAddiction MedicineAddiction Psychiatry Edited March 24, 2014 by Altostrata updated This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted January 29, 2013 Administrator Share Posted January 29, 2013 Duncan Double of the UK's Critical Psychiatry Network has agreed to be on our list. He writes a blog at http://criticalpsychiatry.blogspot.com/ Dr. Double only does NHS work; a GP referral is required. He is Consultant Psychiatrist, Norfolk and Suffolk NHS Foundation Trust and Honorary Senior Lecturer, Norwich Medical School, University of East Anglia Duncan Double, MD http://www.dbdouble.freeuk.com/homepage.htm Victoria House, 28 Alexandra Rd, Lowestoft, Suffolk, NR32 1PL, UK Anglia Mental Health http://www.psychiatry.freeuk.com/angliamentalhealth.htm 26 Christchurch Road Norwich NR2 2AE This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted January 30, 2013 Administrator Share Posted January 30, 2013 Recommended by a Facebook friend https://www.facebook.com/altostrata/posts/497064933679738?comment_id=5164356 Mark Lichtenstein, MD http://www.nchcvt.org/hhcproviders.html Hardwick Health Center 4 Slapp Hill Rd Hardwick, VT 05843 Ph. 802-472-3300, Fax 472-8277 1-800-339-0740 This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted February 2, 2013 Administrator Share Posted February 2, 2013 Recommended by a Facebook friend https://www.facebook.com/groups/benzobook/permalink/157141504438274/ who says they are a functional medicine (integrative medicine) group and follow the Ashton Manual for benzo tapering. Visions Medical http://www.visionshealthcare.com/ 170 Worcester St. (Route 9), Wellesley, MA 02481 781.232.5400 910 Washington St., Dedham, MA 02026 781.232.5500 This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted March 22, 2013 Administrator Share Posted March 22, 2013 (edited) Dr. Rob Purssey contacted me to be put on our list after a post I made on MadinAmerica.com.Dr Robert Purssey MBBS FRANZCPhttp://mindfulpsychiatry.com.au/resources/Dr Robert PursseyMBBS FRANZCPPsychiatrist and ACT TherapistDirector - Brisbane ACT Centre7 Marie Street, Milton Q 4064http://www.brisbaneactcentre.com.auhttp://mindfulpsychiatry.com.au/e-mail rob at brisbaneactcentre/com/auP: 07 3193 1072F: 07 3193 1073M: 07 3309 2268I got an e-mail from Dr. Purssey 22 March 2013: I have commenced a group ACT practice here in Brisbane and wish to get more messages out offering my help in withdrawing here in Brisbane or indeed throughout Australia as I can do sessions via Skype anywhere and be rebated by our health system - Medicare. Dr. Purssey will counsel anyone in Australia. He will expect you to engage in Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) -- also see Dr. Rob Purssey's tips about Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT)Dr. Purssey's services will be PARTLY compensated by the national health system. Edited June 29, 2014 by Altostrata updated This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted March 22, 2013 Administrator Share Posted March 22, 2013 Recommended by a Facebook correspondent: Ernest Shaw, MD Psychiatry 291 Wall St Kingston, NY 12401 (845) 331-1155 (Office) (845) 339-6731 (Fax) This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted March 25, 2013 Administrator Share Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) ADMIN UPDATE Please see these and other comments about Dr. Brogan in this topic. On 5/21/2017 at 5:05 PM, Squeakykin said: Hello, I was a patient of Dr. Kelly Brogan in New York City for over 3 years. She claimed that we had a partnership in our doctor / patient relationship. Although she agreed to writing the prescriptions to reduce my med at the amounts that I asked for, she eventually became extremely dogmatic about her treatment protocols and began treating all of her patients, her entire practice, with the same treatments regardless of the individual cases and issues the patient was having. This came to a head when I started consulting with other professionals over these irresponsible protocols, one explicitly being daily coffee enemas. She accused me of not trusting her. Since I verbally told her that I do not wish to do this protocol, she told me that she could no longer be my doctor unless I performed this protocol. She also currently insists that her patients eat a Paleo diet and not to deviate from that. Because I asserted my needs and conveyed to her my sensitivities to most, if not all of her recommendations; that she was doing more harm than good, she ended our relationship. She also claimed that she could not guarantee results for her patients unless they did her strict protocol. She stated that she was "afraid that she would lose her medical license if by chance a patient had the bad fortune to be hospitalized by not adhering to her protocol". She told me that she has fired many of her patients who leave her office crying because they did not adhere to her strict protocol. On 5/21/2017 at 5:17 PM, Kay said: squeakykin thanks for posting this. That is too bad, to hear Dr. Brogan was too hard on you, but I am not completely surprised. Like many high achievers, it sounds to me that she is pushing too hard, with her patients as she has with herself. She has helped a lot for people dealing with this type of illness, getting off antidepressants, but it sounds like she is too driven herself and so then with her patients also. On 5/21/2017 at 7:48 PM, Squeakykin said: Yes, she has formulated a set system which was primarily based on her deceased mentor, Dr. Nicholas Gonzales' theories. Yet he was a cancer specialist, whereas Brogan is dealing with mental illness and psychiatric drug withdrawal. She seems to have extrapolated part of his protocol to her practice and made it dogma. Yet if you look at Gonzales' youtube videos about diet, he advocated several different diets depending on the person's body type and other factors. There was a great variation in his treatment for his patients. Whereas Brogan has a treatment protocol that is strictly limited and it is applied across the board to all of her patients. Frankly, I think she has bitten off more than she can chew in her drive for success for herself and her patients. Since there is a very long waitlist for her services now, she feels that she can pick and choose who she wants to help, and by doing this very easy strict protocol she has not taken on any challenges of anyone differing from the prototype. Most of her patients come to her from very wealthy backgrounds who have become depressed by having eaten a lousy diet most of their lives. A simple change in diet off processed foods seems to be all that they really need. Then the coffee enema is applied to detox the antidepressant very quickly, and they are off their drug in no time. A healthy eating coach could do this same protocol. The only advantage of Brogan's approach is that she is a MD and can write the prescriptions for the taper. I think it is a real crime that her fees are so exorbitant. Her approach is mostly on autopilot once one changes her diet, starts the taper, and does the enemas. The rest is smooth sailing for Brogan. On 5/22/2017 at 3:19 PM, Kay said: I'm sorry Squeakykin you had to go through all that. Does that work, tapering faster with coffee enemas? Gross to consider but I'm curious. I've just started my second year of tapering off Effexor XR (Venlafaxine) and anticipate it taking about five years. On 5/22/2017 at 3:35 PM, Squeakykin said: Hi Kay, I am only repeating what Dr. Brogan told me, saying that many of her patients got off the drugs in months rather than years. She stands behind her claim that coffee enemas are safe. But I consulted with several respected alt. health professionals who all warned me of its many dangers. I think it would be dangerous for anyone in a weakened state or for one who is older to do these enemas. I have 6 more years to go with my taper and although it is very tempting to think that by doing the enema the taper process could be cut to a fraction of the time, there are other factors at play here as well. Being that I have been on psych drugs for 34 years, it is recommended that a slow taper is safer giving the body/mind/spirit much needed time to adjust to the myriad changes it undergoes in healing. I believe long term healing takes time and a quick fix is dangerous. On 5/22/2017 at 5:10 PM, Kay said: OK thanks a bunch for that info Squeakykin. My feeling was that it was best to stay the course I'm on. I've taken the med for about 13 years myself. It is difficult! From MadinAmerica.com http://www.madinamerica.com/author/kbrogan/ Kelly Brogan, MD Integrative and holistic psychiatrist specializing in women's mental health http://www.kellybroganmd.com/ 280 Madison Ave Suite 702 New York, NY 10016 276 5th Ave New York, NY 10001 (646) 706-7771 (Office) (646) 706-7771 (Fax) Edited April 17, 2019 by Altostrata Added admin note This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted March 31, 2013 Administrator Share Posted March 31, 2013 Dr. Tsafrir has an interesting blog at http://www.judytsafrirmd.com/ Judy Tsafrir, M.D. Boston Holistic Psychiatrist http://www.judytsafrirmd.com/ 120 Sumner Street Newton Centre, MA 02459 Tel: 617-965-3020 Dr. Tsafrir writes: ....Your website makes a real public health contribution. I am no expert in drug tapering, but am willing to learn more. I have had one patient who has successfully almost tapered off of Paxil by switching to a liquid preparation and by decreasing by very tiny increments. I could imagine that dietary support could make a difference for some people, as their diet is aggravating their condition or even in some cases causing it. I would be glad to try and be helpful to patients locally who would like to try and taper from medications. I rarely just function as a psychopharmacologist to most of my patients. Most see me for a combination of psychotherapy and nutritional and life style approaches to treating their condition. I am also not affiliated with insurance companies. My patients are all self-pay, though I am willing to provide paper work that allows patients to sometimes get reimbursed for a portion of my fee. Thanks again for contacting me, and for the important work that you do. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted April 2, 2013 Administrator Share Posted April 2, 2013 You may want to read her posts on MadinAmerica.com. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmusic Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 I just wanted to post here. I went and saw a doc at a holistic medial center around here. It's called Visions Medical Center. It's listed on this site as one of the friendly docs. And I'm sure they are helpful for withdrawing from Benzos, but the doctor I saw didn't have a clue about what was happening to me. I have been there in the past and have gotten tests done, etc. I recall now why I stopped going. Basically the outcome was - you have to change your diet and take these 10 expensive supplements. I was offered a 'plan' to take 5-HTP (which puts my anxiety through the roof), several proprietary blends of taurine, magnesium, etc., and some stuff that I realized after I bought it was Phenibut. Phenibut - he looked me right in the eye and said - it's not habit forming, we're dealing with the precursors to GABA, etc. But then I read you can get hooked on it. How is that any better than benzos? The guy basically went down the same old playbook - telling me I have food 'allergies' and other conditions putting stress on the body. He actually tried to tell me that he doesn't think the crisis I'm feeling right now is necessarily the withdrawal from antidepressants, but rather my diet and other factors that are stressing me. Doing a little more research, I realized that the IgG tests they use for food 'allergies' are not even proven to indicate allergies. And when I asked why I don't have allergic reactions to these foods, I was told they are delayed reactions. So I should go dairy free and gluten free when I tried to explain that I'm barely even eating enough to stay alive. I'm not saying that I couldn't benefit from improving my diet, but to claim that this is the reason I'm feeling unnatural levels of anxiety, and not the fact that I pulled the plug on a psych drug after a decade? And to think a person in my state could make these kinds of major changes right now? Really? They also had measured my cortisol levels and other hormones in the past and found these to be significantly low. This I do believe. But I see this as a result of being in so much emotional stress from (at the time of the test) thrashing around on antidepressants and taking benzos. Of course with this level of stress my adrenals and everything else that try to combat it are burning out. I know my adrenals need to heal along with the rest of my body. But there isn't much I can do about it until my system calms down. And last, they had tested me for the MTHFR mutation (which I have in both genes), but that was at my request last year. So more expensive supplements (methylfolate and methyl B12). I've taken these in the past and didn't see any improvements to anything. Maybe it would help if I WASN'T IN ACUTE WITHDRAWAL FROM SSRI's! Even though these things could help me (and in the long term probably will), I could not believe he would rattle off this same old crap after I just told him about my situation. I was shocked. I went there because I couldn't get any help from mainstream medicine or psychiatry, hoping for some understanding and perhaps an open mind. But all I got was this? Bottom line is that it's really the same thing as mainstream medicine, seeing every situation as a nail just because you have a hammer. Only with these guys it's just a different type of hammer. Anyway, just saw this thread so thought I'd share my experience. Started on Zoloft in 2002 Switched to Lexapro in 2005 Switched to Prozac in 2008 Off Prozac abruptly in 2010 (a mistake) - crashed Lexapro end of 2010 - didn't work Effexor until 2012 - roller coaster from hell Back to Prozac November 2012 - one last rise and fall Quit Prozac 01/13 Reinstated Prozac 5mg 05/13 Trial of 7.5 Remeron for one month 06/13, then off Off Lamictal 06/13 Quit benzos 06/13 Reduced to 4mg Prozac 8/15/13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compsports Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Cmusic, I am so sorry for your experiences and this is good feedback for alto so she can't adjust the list accordingly. What you are reporting sounds somewhat similar to my experience with an alternative doctor a few years ago. I went there against my better judgment and unfortunately, my worst fears came to light as they wanted order tests that I knew were a bunch of BS. Some people get so angry if you criticize alternative folks but your example is a perfect reason why you have to be so cautious. CS I just wanted to post here. I went and saw a doc at a holistic medial center around here. It's called Visions Medical Center. It's listed on this site as one of the friendly docs. And I'm sure they are helpful for withdrawing from Benzos, but the doctor I saw didn't have a clue about what was happening to me. I have been there in the past and have gotten tests done, etc. I recall now why I stopped going. Basically the outcome was - you have to change your diet and take these 10 expensive supplements. I was offered a 'plan' to take 5-HTP (which puts my anxiety through the roof), several proprietary blends of taurine, magnesium, etc., and some stuff that I realized after I bought it was Phenibut. Phenibut - he looked me right in the eye and said - it's not habit forming, we're dealing with the precursors to GABA, etc. But then I read you can get hooked on it. How is that any better than benzos? The guy basically went down the same old playbook - telling me I have food 'allergies' and other conditions putting stress on the body. He actually tried to tell me that he doesn't think the crisis I'm feeling right now is necessarily the withdrawal from antidepressants, but rather my diet and other factors that are stressing me. Doing a little more research, I realized that the IgG tests they use for food 'allergies' are not even proven to indicate allergies. And when I asked why I don't have allergic reactions to these foods, I was told they are delayed reactions. So I should go dairy free and gluten free when I tried to explain that I'm barely even eating enough to stay alive. I'm not saying that I couldn't benefit from improving my diet, but to claim that this is the reason I'm feeling unnatural levels of anxiety, and not the fact that I pulled the plug on a psych drug after a decade? And to think a person in my state could make these kinds of major changes right now? Really? They also had measured my cortisol levels and other hormones in the past and found these to be significantly low. This I do believe. But I see this as a result of being in so much emotional stress from (at the time of the test) thrashing around on antidepressants and taking benzos. Of course with this level of stress my adrenals and everything else that try to combat it are burning out. I know my adrenals need to heal along with the rest of my body. But there isn't much I can do about it until my system calms down. And last, they had tested me for the MTHFR mutation (which I have in both genes), but that was at my request last year. So more expensive supplements (methylfolate and methyl B12). I've taken these in the past and didn't see any improvements to anything. Maybe it would help if I WASN'T IN ACUTE WITHDRAWAL FROM SSRI's! Even though these things could help me (and in the long term probably will), I could not believe he would rattle off this same old crap after I just told him about my situation. I was shocked. I went there because I couldn't get any help from mainstream medicine or psychiatry, hoping for some understanding and perhaps an open mind. But all I got was this? Bottom line is that it's really the same thing as mainstream medicine, seeing every situation as a nail just because you have a hammer. Only with these guys it's just a different type of hammer. Anyway, just saw this thread so thought I'd share my experience. Drug cocktail 1995 - 2010 Started taper of Adderall, Wellbutrin XL, Remeron, and Doxepin in 2006 Finished taper on June 10, 2010 Temazepam on a PRN basis approximately twice a month - 2014 to 2016 Beginning in 2017 - Consumption increased to about two times per week April 2017 - Increased to taking it full time for insomnia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 I have read them and have also seen your responses! I read them, thinking you have some reservations. Thats why i was wondering whether anyone has first had experience with her, esp since i need withdrawal addressed and not "simply" the determination of how to address anxiety/insomnia! (Although gentle long term care would be welcome as well.) 2003-2010 up and down 10-40mg celexa for anxiety2/2011 10mg8/2011 5mg for 3 wks, then stopped completely.middle of night waking after apx 1-2 hours of sleep (nightly), panic/jitteriness after waking11/11 back on 30mg celexa, ambien/many supplements-insomnia/panic.2/12 30mg celexa, many supplements (Magnesium eliminated morning tight chest/jitteriness). Off ambien!7/12 20mg8/12 15 mg(sleep improving,mood pos)12/12 2.3 mg got liquid celexa!1/13 2.1 mg3/13 1.2 mg4/13 down to .6 too quickly- cortisol spikes, middle of night waking, night sweats...4/13 held at .6 for 3 weeks so far. Off most supplements as well. Withdrawal depression almost gone! 7/13 OFF OF CELEXA!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted April 7, 2013 Administrator Share Posted April 7, 2013 I would try Dr. Brogan if I were near her. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Thank you. I may not know you, but vote of confidence means a lot. I will update with my experience. (And I'll not hope for miracles and be unfair to her.) 2003-2010 up and down 10-40mg celexa for anxiety2/2011 10mg8/2011 5mg for 3 wks, then stopped completely.middle of night waking after apx 1-2 hours of sleep (nightly), panic/jitteriness after waking11/11 back on 30mg celexa, ambien/many supplements-insomnia/panic.2/12 30mg celexa, many supplements (Magnesium eliminated morning tight chest/jitteriness). Off ambien!7/12 20mg8/12 15 mg(sleep improving,mood pos)12/12 2.3 mg got liquid celexa!1/13 2.1 mg3/13 1.2 mg4/13 down to .6 too quickly- cortisol spikes, middle of night waking, night sweats...4/13 held at .6 for 3 weeks so far. Off most supplements as well. Withdrawal depression almost gone! 7/13 OFF OF CELEXA!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted April 8, 2013 Administrator Share Posted April 8, 2013 Sorry about Visions. Is there anyone there who knows about tapering off drugs other than benzos? Maybe I should take them off our list. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmusic Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 I'm not sure because I've only seen a few of the doctors. But they seem to have a standard play book regardless of your situation - food, allergies, adrenals, etc. and again, while all this stuff might help, my commentary was on the lack of acknowledgement of the powerful effects that getting off these drugs can cause. I'm not sure about tapering help because I didn't slowly taper (which I regret). My feel though is that they wouldn't know a lot about it beyond the benzos. They do have an integrative psychiatrist - I have an appointment but not for a few months so can't comment on that yet. Started on Zoloft in 2002 Switched to Lexapro in 2005 Switched to Prozac in 2008 Off Prozac abruptly in 2010 (a mistake) - crashed Lexapro end of 2010 - didn't work Effexor until 2012 - roller coaster from hell Back to Prozac November 2012 - one last rise and fall Quit Prozac 01/13 Reinstated Prozac 5mg 05/13 Trial of 7.5 Remeron for one month 06/13, then off Off Lamictal 06/13 Quit benzos 06/13 Reduced to 4mg Prozac 8/15/13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted May 13, 2013 Administrator Share Posted May 13, 2013 (edited) George P. Dawson, MD http://www.blogger.com/profile/03474899831557543486 15251 Pleasant Valley Rd Suite CO7 Center City, MN 55012 (651) 213-4184 (Office) (651) 213-4515 (Fax) 640 Jackson St Saint Paul, MN 55101 (651) 254-4786 (Office) (651) 228-8362 (Fax) Dr. Dawson works in an addiction medicine clinic and can see only patients in the clinic. If you are not a patient in the clinic, contact Dr. Dawson only for referral to another doctor in the area who knows about tapering. Edited May 14, 2013 by Altostrata updated This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted May 14, 2013 Administrator Share Posted May 14, 2013 David D. Harwood M.D. http://www.mpa1040.com/david-d-harwood-m-d/ Montgomery Psychiatry and Associates 1040 Longfield Ct Montgomery, AL 36117 (334) 288-9009 This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy131313 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 (edited) New UK Clinic by colleague Dr Bob Johnson, Consultant Psychiatrist -- EMOTION CLINIC. Appointments & info -clinic@DrBobJohnson.org. Rivington House, 82 Great Eastern Street, London EC2A 3JF. 07976 228 444 for messages Edited February 15, 2014 by Altostrata fixed text damaged by citalopram - severe suffering for 3 years now...no improvement akathsiia, pgad, dp/dr, terror, and so SO many more daily severly disabled and lost everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy131313 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 also I know its said that its hard to see Dr Healy, but it really isnt, after me 4 people I spoke to and explained how to see him have also seen him with no problem and they live all over england, you can only see him through the NHS and if you insist to your GP and say patient choice then you can see him....Dr Haddad is a no no unless you live in Hope (hope is a place in manchester, of course we all live in hope lol) damaged by citalopram - severe suffering for 3 years now...no improvement akathsiia, pgad, dp/dr, terror, and so SO many more daily severly disabled and lost everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Altostrata Posted June 25, 2013 Administrator Share Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) Thanks for that information, Iggy. Dr. Healy should be on our list. Dr. David Healyhttp://www.nwcs.ac.uk/profiles/dh.php.enhttp://davidhealy.org/ North WalesHergest Unit Ysbyty Gwynedd Tel: 01248 384883Dr Healy Tel: 01492860926 Dr. Healy is one of the few physicians in the world who recognize post-discontinuation syndrome from psychiatric drugs. He also founded Rxisk.org to track iatrogenic damage from pharmaceuticals. Edited April 20, 2014 by Altostrata updated This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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