tgirl Posted October 10, 2015 Author Share Posted October 10, 2015 Thank you WF, Thanks for stopping by my thread. This is just so torturous! I am just so speechless right now. I don't know how everyone puts up with this day in and day out! Is there no god? Where is he? Really!! I want to live but not like this. T April 2014 remeron 45mg. June 2014 abilify 2.5 remeron wasn't working so abilify was then added September 2014 woke up with anxiety x 100!!!! Pdoc then took me from 45 to 7.5 within a month and took abilify from 2.5 to 0 Currently Remeron 7.5 Vitamin d 5,000 iu taking for about 3 years October 2014 added fish oil/omega 3 1000 mg per day Levothyroxitine 100 10 years or so Dec 2014 started tapering 10% every 10 days-no problems. August 2015 down to 0.1 mg Woke up with severe anxiety-sleep issues-racing thoughts-depression. 9/9/15 up dose 1 mg. Link to comment
Wildflower0214 Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I understand your questioning many things right now. And, I don't have any very good answers. But, I hear you. And, you're not alone. I wish there was something else to say or do to ease the suffering. But, it seems there isn't much that hasn't already been said. You are stronger than you know. You can endure. And, you will. hang in there. 2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor..... 5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses. Link to comment
servadei Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I had a tought day too so I felt the same about God. I'm a bit better now AND I know it will be the same for you. Hang on! I know this isn't life but you have to fight for yourself Because you are a miracle. CD off meds in July 2015, not on any medication since. Went through WD nightmare, now dealing with normal anxiety, but decided not to leave this forum yet because I want to support and give hope to others. ♡ Link to comment
Hopefull Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Sorry to hear that you are feeling really bad! I have asked myself on many occasions if there is God and what is the point of this suffering. Try to remember the windows that you had. Hang on to something positive. That will get you through the tough days. There has to be an end to all of this, but it obviously takes a long time for the brain to heal and revert to its original state. Best wishes, Hopefull. DRUG HISTORY: November 2013- Zoloft, ( Bad reaction). January 2014 - March 2014 Seroquel.( Quit Cold Turkey). January2014- Mirtazapine, I was taking 15mg at one stage, reduced to 7.5mg, Pgad reactions to Mirtazapine. Doctor kept increasing it to 37.5mg, until July 2014. No improvement, experiencing panic attacks, on 37.5 mg. I had enough by October 2014. Began tapering. October 2014- Started tapering Mirtazapine from 37.5mg. September 2015- Down to 4mg of Mirtazapine. Crashed. September 16th- Up dosed to 5mg. Held this dose for almost 5 months. Stabilised. February 2016- Began tapering again. From 5mg to 4.5mg of Mirtazapine. (Rocking the boat, again)! Lol. Link to comment
calithebold Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Hi tgirl, I'm sorry to hear you are feeling pretty horrible, I can't tell you when it will lift but I have no doubt that you are strong enough to get there. One day you will look back at this and it will be a memory. You are in my thoughts All medications:: Xanax (1995-96), Aropax (1995-96), Mellaril (1997-2000), Efexor (1997-2002), Seroquel (2000-now), Lithium Carbonate (2000-now), Avanza (2002-05), Epilim (2005), Seroquel-XR (2000-now), Zyprexa (2002-14), Raberprazole (2000-now prn), Crestor (2009-15), Gabapentin (2009-12), Lamictal (2010-now), Abilify (2011-now) Lyrica (2012-now), Diazepam (2010-now prn), Saphris (2014), Respiridone (2014), Chlorpromazine (2014) Neulatil (07/2016) Current medications: Lithium Carbonate 750mg; Seroquel-XR 600mg, 800mg 04/16, 600mg 04/16, 400mg 04/16, 200mg 04/16, 400mg 04/16, 500mg 04/16; Lamictal 250mg 200mg150mg 04/16; Lyrica 300mg; Abilify 20mg 30mg 11/15 Zoloft 25mg 04/16 ceased after a week due to severe suicidal thoughts; Seroquel 25mg prn; Diazepam 40mg CT Jan 2013, 5mg occasionally, (massive med changes in April 2016 due to a hospital admission). Supplements: Fish oil 4000mg, Magnesium 100mg , Niacinamide 1000mg, Slippery Elm 800mg , B12 1000mcg, Zinc 50mg, B6 100mg, Vitamin D 2000IU, Calcium 1200mg, P5P 100mg, Vitamin C 2000mg, Vitamin E 400IU Link to comment
AliG Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 T Girl, Hang in there ! I'm " without words", as well . All you can do is " Breathe" & keep breathing. No one wants to live like this & it is " torturous". Just try & keep putting one foot in front of the other, minute by minute. Hour by hour. Day by day . Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014 Psych Drug - free since May 2014 . Link to comment
melanie Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 This is just so torturous! I am just so speechless right now. I don't know how everyone puts up with this day in and day out! Is there no god? Where is he? Really!! I want to live but not like this. T Hi Tina, I try to find God's presence in Nature and my Kitty. My Kitty was given to me by Nature. "You're a child of the universe; no less than the trees and the stars, you have a right to be here." (Max Ehrmann "Desiderata: A poem for a way of life.") Do you still take your clindamycin? How's your tooth? It may get you in a lower mood as well. Make sure you take plenty of probiotic with clindamycin, drink lots of yoghurt etc. Probiotic should be taken 2 hrs before or after the antibiotic. I don't remember, you've got to check it out on the net. Unless you're allergic to clindamycin, it should be all right. I was given it for acne issues, tolerated it well. Allergy is when you develop a skin rash etc. It's all in the leaflet. Antibiotics are not psychotropic drugs, they are safer... Big hugs to you, Mel 1990-1992 Anafranil. OCD under control, extreme social phobia. Hospitalized for the 1st and 2nd time (out of 3). 1999-2002: Prozac 20 mg. Stopped due to severe anxiety. Increased benzo consumption. 2003-2005: AD free (therapy). Feeling good, started working. Persisted 9 yrs in full-time job. 2005-2007: Ixel (milnacipran). SNRI. 2007-2011: Lexapro 10-15 mg. Fatigue and anxiety. Mania. Insomnia. Acne. Shopoholism. Polydrugging with different meds. 2011-2013: Effexor 37,5-150 mg (mostly 75 mg). SNRI. Fatigue and depression, terrible acne with scars, now gone. April 2013: Wellbutrin 150 mg. Hot flashes, extreme appetite, aggression. May 2013 - May 2014: Prozac - from 10 mg to 0 mg, very harsh taper. Functioning great but EXTREME ANXIETY. From May 2014: tried different ADs to replace Prozac, nothing worked, terrible side effects (Seroxat, Zoloft, Luvox, Brintellix, Doxepin, Trazodone). May 2014 back to benzos (Valium) in hope of improvement, aggravated depression and anxiety. Sept. 2014: Lexapro 2,5 mg, highest dose 5 mg for 1,5 months (Spring 2015). Steady decline, anxiety, fatigue. Diagnosed with OCD, dysthymia, social phobia, anxiety disorder, insomnia, eating disorder (first bulimia, then anorexia). Current meds: Seroquel 6,25 mg for sleep - 5 mg since Nov. 5, 2015. Lexapro 1,25 mg since Aug. 4th 2015. Valium, Ambien prn, tapering. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/9984-melanie-should-i-reinstate-lexapro/ Link to comment
tgirl Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 Thanks a lot all of you! This is just so unbelievable! I feel it is a dream. I don't even know what is real anymore. I feel exhausted. I'm sure the antibiotic doesn't help things much. Thank you all, Tgirl April 2014 remeron 45mg. June 2014 abilify 2.5 remeron wasn't working so abilify was then added September 2014 woke up with anxiety x 100!!!! Pdoc then took me from 45 to 7.5 within a month and took abilify from 2.5 to 0 Currently Remeron 7.5 Vitamin d 5,000 iu taking for about 3 years October 2014 added fish oil/omega 3 1000 mg per day Levothyroxitine 100 10 years or so Dec 2014 started tapering 10% every 10 days-no problems. August 2015 down to 0.1 mg Woke up with severe anxiety-sleep issues-racing thoughts-depression. 9/9/15 up dose 1 mg. Link to comment
quitpaxil2015 Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Hi Tgirl, I understand what you are going through. I feel the same but we cannot give up. You will destabilize. Once you do, you should stay on the dose you are at, I think, for a while. I understand feeling desperation with this. Had I known I would be in this position right now, most likely would not have dropped at all. Hang in there! QP Username: quitpaxil2015 - Started antidepressants sometime in 1990. Misdiagnosed with Bipolar, but later with thyroid disease in1998 (8 years of being on several different psychiatric meds with several psychiatric hospitalizations). Total thyroidectomy in 1999. At the time, was on 85 mg of Paxil. In 2001, tried to get off Paxil and had car crash due to vertigo and w/d symptoms. Given more psychiatric meds including Prozac and Trazodone to treat SEVERE w/d from Paxil - which is the only reason I still take Paxil. Tried to taper off Paxil again in 2004 - from 25 mg to 20 mg (5 mg cuts) - had to go back on 25 mg on the 10th day of the taper due to inability to function (dizziness, vertigo, motion sickness, crying spells, depersonalization, etc). Currently on Paxil 25 mg and Trazodone 100 mg. Trying to quit Paxil in 2015. April 22, 2015 - Paxil 22.5 mg. May 13, 2015 Paxil 20 mg. June 3, 2015 - Paxil 17.5 mg. June 24, 2015 - Paxil 15 mg. Don't remember - 12.5 mg. August 5, 2015 - Paxil 10 mg. September 16, 2015 - 7.5 mg (considering going back up - severe anxiety/panic) September 28, 2015 - back up to 10 mg. October 6, 2015 - back up to 15 mg. Link to comment
dreamspirit Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 I totally understand. It is terrible. It's amazing how a little pill can make you feel awful.. I use to say, if I had to feel like this everyday the rest of my life I would rather be dead.. But I know it just can't possibly stay like this forever even though it feels like it will. We are stronger than we believe we are.. and in time, it too shall pass. Like everything else does. We all want a quick fix of the problem and unfortunately it just don't work that way. We should be happy that our brain does heal in time. Can you imagine if it didn't? I wouldn't want to imagine that. Withdrawl makes it so hard especially when you have children to take care of. When I'm in a bad withdrawl I can't function what so ever. I'm couch ridden. Can't talk to no one and can't go anywhere. I become agoraphobic. Which I kinda am right now but I'm trying not to push it and stress myself out.. I stay away from stressful situations as much as possible. We will all feel better in time! Good things come to those who wait! Hugs!! Been on Paxil since 96”-97”, 40mg tried 3 times to get off and didn’t work, started a very slow taper Jan 2016, have only dropped down by 3 mg.. on 37mg currently.. have very delayed withdrawals. Last drop was in July 2017.. still have waves and windows. Magnesium 200mg, foilc acid 1 mg, vitamin d3 5000iu, Blood pressure meds-Verapamil & Irbesartan... Smoke cbd flower once in awhile. Link to comment
PapaBear Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Hi tgirl, Sorry to hear about your problems. I hope it will be better soon! Cheers, PB - Paroxetine since more than 10years - 20mg for the first five year, then 10mg since - Several attempts to withdraw cold turkey following doctor's advise - Last attempt in spring 2015 to reduce 10 -> 5 -> 2.5 -> 0mg within 2 months -> Extreme wd problems - Reinstated with 10mg then down to 5mg again 04/01 5mg (tingling and muscle problems) 07/20 5mg (less problems) 08/20 4.95mg (muscle tightness, no more tingling sensations) 12/28 3.27mg (muscle tightness, numb feeling in feet and hands, light tingling sensations Link to comment
AliG Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 TGirl , How are you ? I hope , you're doing a little better . Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014 Psych Drug - free since May 2014 . Link to comment
tgirl Posted October 16, 2015 Author Share Posted October 16, 2015 QP, dream spirit, papa and Ali, Thank you all for visiting my thread. Unfortunately I'm not better. I wish I had better news. I After no sleep for three days, I took a Xanax and slept some. But, still felt as if I slept none. I know it's against this webs rules to take another drug, but I was desperate to sleep. I am sorry, Tgirl April 2014 remeron 45mg. June 2014 abilify 2.5 remeron wasn't working so abilify was then added September 2014 woke up with anxiety x 100!!!! Pdoc then took me from 45 to 7.5 within a month and took abilify from 2.5 to 0 Currently Remeron 7.5 Vitamin d 5,000 iu taking for about 3 years October 2014 added fish oil/omega 3 1000 mg per day Levothyroxitine 100 10 years or so Dec 2014 started tapering 10% every 10 days-no problems. August 2015 down to 0.1 mg Woke up with severe anxiety-sleep issues-racing thoughts-depression. 9/9/15 up dose 1 mg. Link to comment
servadei Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I don't blame you. Not sleeping for 3 days is way too much. Hope you get better soon! CD off meds in July 2015, not on any medication since. Went through WD nightmare, now dealing with normal anxiety, but decided not to leave this forum yet because I want to support and give hope to others. ♡ Link to comment
dreamspirit Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 No need to be sorry! I probably would have done the same. I take it that Melatonin don't help you? Just be careful and conservative when taking Xanax though. I have Klonopin here if I need it but I haven't taken it in awhile and if I do its only 1/4 of the lowest dose of a pill. Stay strong!! Hugs!! Been on Paxil since 96”-97”, 40mg tried 3 times to get off and didn’t work, started a very slow taper Jan 2016, have only dropped down by 3 mg.. on 37mg currently.. have very delayed withdrawals. Last drop was in July 2017.. still have waves and windows. Magnesium 200mg, foilc acid 1 mg, vitamin d3 5000iu, Blood pressure meds-Verapamil & Irbesartan... Smoke cbd flower once in awhile. Link to comment
quitpaxil2015 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Tgirl, I'm sorry you are also not sleeping. I am at about 3 hours per night still. Username: quitpaxil2015 - Started antidepressants sometime in 1990. Misdiagnosed with Bipolar, but later with thyroid disease in1998 (8 years of being on several different psychiatric meds with several psychiatric hospitalizations). Total thyroidectomy in 1999. At the time, was on 85 mg of Paxil. In 2001, tried to get off Paxil and had car crash due to vertigo and w/d symptoms. Given more psychiatric meds including Prozac and Trazodone to treat SEVERE w/d from Paxil - which is the only reason I still take Paxil. Tried to taper off Paxil again in 2004 - from 25 mg to 20 mg (5 mg cuts) - had to go back on 25 mg on the 10th day of the taper due to inability to function (dizziness, vertigo, motion sickness, crying spells, depersonalization, etc). Currently on Paxil 25 mg and Trazodone 100 mg. Trying to quit Paxil in 2015. April 22, 2015 - Paxil 22.5 mg. May 13, 2015 Paxil 20 mg. June 3, 2015 - Paxil 17.5 mg. June 24, 2015 - Paxil 15 mg. Don't remember - 12.5 mg. August 5, 2015 - Paxil 10 mg. September 16, 2015 - 7.5 mg (considering going back up - severe anxiety/panic) September 28, 2015 - back up to 10 mg. October 6, 2015 - back up to 15 mg. Link to comment
AliG Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Hi T, How are you now ? Don't be sorry . Many of us are in " the same boat" here. Totally get it ! If I had some, I would probably take it , at this point - desperate !! Hugs, Ali. Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014 Psych Drug - free since May 2014 . Link to comment
tgirl Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 Ali, Unfortunately I am no better today. Lack of sleep is making me crazy. I just can't seem to get any relief. My husband doesn't understand and he's sick of it. I don't blame him. I have no support, which adds to my problems. I getting really worn down. Hope you are well, Tgirl April 2014 remeron 45mg. June 2014 abilify 2.5 remeron wasn't working so abilify was then added September 2014 woke up with anxiety x 100!!!! Pdoc then took me from 45 to 7.5 within a month and took abilify from 2.5 to 0 Currently Remeron 7.5 Vitamin d 5,000 iu taking for about 3 years October 2014 added fish oil/omega 3 1000 mg per day Levothyroxitine 100 10 years or so Dec 2014 started tapering 10% every 10 days-no problems. August 2015 down to 0.1 mg Woke up with severe anxiety-sleep issues-racing thoughts-depression. 9/9/15 up dose 1 mg. Link to comment
Martina23 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Hello T-Girl, how are you? Havent heard from you for a long time. My son is here hitting me. I think I have to enroll him for some sport like football, because in other case I will be always full of blue spots. Hope you are allright, Martina 05/2013 Lyrica 100 mg / per day for pain + PGAD resulting from caesarian delivery11/2014 started to taper: 50 mg per day/ for one week then c/tafter one month reinstated at 50 mg /per days of 10 July 2015 drug free- symptoms OCD Link to comment
AliG Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 T, I get it . I'm the same ! It's brutal . This , isn't for " wimps", LOL !! Hang in there . Hugs, Ali. Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014 Psych Drug - free since May 2014 . Link to comment
tgirl Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 I have a few questions and I realize that nobody here is a doctor. Do you think I will ever stabilize on this 1 mg. of Remeron? I feel like it's doing nothing for me. Why would I feel so good for 6/7 months while tapering (too fast) but, every time I made a cut the better I felt. Then CRASH! Why would I be doing so well on 45 then wake up ome day to severe agitation and anxiety x100? I am so worn out, I don't know how I will ever make it out of this. Thanks for any replys! April 2014 remeron 45mg. June 2014 abilify 2.5 remeron wasn't working so abilify was then added September 2014 woke up with anxiety x 100!!!! Pdoc then took me from 45 to 7.5 within a month and took abilify from 2.5 to 0 Currently Remeron 7.5 Vitamin d 5,000 iu taking for about 3 years October 2014 added fish oil/omega 3 1000 mg per day Levothyroxitine 100 10 years or so Dec 2014 started tapering 10% every 10 days-no problems. August 2015 down to 0.1 mg Woke up with severe anxiety-sleep issues-racing thoughts-depression. 9/9/15 up dose 1 mg. Link to comment
AliG Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 T, You do have this support ! Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014 Psych Drug - free since May 2014 . Link to comment
tgirl Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 Thank you Ali! April 2014 remeron 45mg. June 2014 abilify 2.5 remeron wasn't working so abilify was then added September 2014 woke up with anxiety x 100!!!! Pdoc then took me from 45 to 7.5 within a month and took abilify from 2.5 to 0 Currently Remeron 7.5 Vitamin d 5,000 iu taking for about 3 years October 2014 added fish oil/omega 3 1000 mg per day Levothyroxitine 100 10 years or so Dec 2014 started tapering 10% every 10 days-no problems. August 2015 down to 0.1 mg Woke up with severe anxiety-sleep issues-racing thoughts-depression. 9/9/15 up dose 1 mg. Link to comment
AliG Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 T girl, Honestly, what have doctors , done for you ? You're right . We're not doctors. Thank God, for that ! This is much better. When you say , it's doing nothing, what do you mean, exactly ? I don't think it's meant to DO anything. It just keeps you even and stable. You said that you tapered too fast , and then crashed . There is nothing surprising in that .I really think it's " windows & waves ". Hang in there. T. It will be ok . Ali. Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014 Psych Drug - free since May 2014 . Link to comment
tgirl Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 Ali, Thank for replying. It has not kept me even and stable. I just have so many questions, no answers. I want to live life. I want to be out there being a part of it, like I was just months ago. I know everyone here is suffering too. I wish this on nobody! Thank you again! April 2014 remeron 45mg. June 2014 abilify 2.5 remeron wasn't working so abilify was then added September 2014 woke up with anxiety x 100!!!! Pdoc then took me from 45 to 7.5 within a month and took abilify from 2.5 to 0 Currently Remeron 7.5 Vitamin d 5,000 iu taking for about 3 years October 2014 added fish oil/omega 3 1000 mg per day Levothyroxitine 100 10 years or so Dec 2014 started tapering 10% every 10 days-no problems. August 2015 down to 0.1 mg Woke up with severe anxiety-sleep issues-racing thoughts-depression. 9/9/15 up dose 1 mg. Link to comment
Martina23 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 T-Girl, when I was tappering Lyrica, I have also never stabilized. I think stabilization is possible if you are tappering very slowly from the beginning so that the system is not destabilized. If you c/t like me or do a rapid tapper it is by many people that they stabilize only once they are totally off the drug. This was by me and also a lot of people I read about. And doing good and have a later crash is also possible. Dont worry you will get better. 05/2013 Lyrica 100 mg / per day for pain + PGAD resulting from caesarian delivery11/2014 started to taper: 50 mg per day/ for one week then c/tafter one month reinstated at 50 mg /per days of 10 July 2015 drug free- symptoms OCD Link to comment
freespirit Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Sorry it's so hard tgirl. Unfortunately, we can never really know for sure the whys about a lot of this process. The only thing we can do is respond as best we can. Finding non-drug ways to soothe or rest the nervous system...and the other 100 small things that Dalsaan talks about are key...and not just for WD, but also for the rest of life. WD is a crash course in how to find our way through the difficulties of life. Remeron for depression. Started at 7.5 mg. in 2005. Gradual increases over 8 years, up to 45 mg. in 2012.Began tapering in June 2013. Went from 45 to 30 mg in the first 3-4 months. Held for a couple of months.Started tapering by 3.75 mg every month or 2, with some longer holding periods. Eventually went down to 3.75 mg. about April 2014. Stopped taking Remeron August 2014. Developed issues with histamine a week after stopping--symptoms reduced through diet and a few supplements. Currently having issues with a few foods. Most of the histamine intolerance has resolved or is at least, in remission. Current Medications: Current Supplements: Cannabis (CBD and THC), Vitamin C, D, Quercetin, CoQ10, Tart Cherry, Probiotic, Phytoplankton oil, magnesium, Methyl B. What has helped me most: spending time in nature, qi gong, exercise, healthy diet, meditation, IV vitamins, homeopathy, massage, acupuncture, chiropractic, music, and cuddling my cats.. My introduction: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/8459-mirtazapine-withdrawal-freespirit/#entry144282 Please note: I am not a therapist or medical practitioner. Any suggestions offered come solely from my personal experience in recovering from childhood trauma, therapy, and AD use. Please seek appropriate care for yourself. “After a cruel childhood, one must reinvent oneself. Then re-imagine the world.” ― Mary Oliver Link to comment
dreamspirit Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 The same thing happened to me, Tgirl.. When I was tapering I felt great and didn't have any withdrawl symptoms and then I crashed like you... Then I reinstated to my original dose and it took almost 4 months to feel normal again..and I had some waves and windows through that as well.. I still have some lightheadedness but I'm sure that will go in time too. I do plan on tapering again down the road but I'm going to go super slow and I know it will take me years to get off but I can't handle the withdrawls so it is what it is.. "You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have" Hugs!! Been on Paxil since 96”-97”, 40mg tried 3 times to get off and didn’t work, started a very slow taper Jan 2016, have only dropped down by 3 mg.. on 37mg currently.. have very delayed withdrawals. Last drop was in July 2017.. still have waves and windows. Magnesium 200mg, foilc acid 1 mg, vitamin d3 5000iu, Blood pressure meds-Verapamil & Irbesartan... Smoke cbd flower once in awhile. Link to comment
quitpaxil2015 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I'm sorry you are not feeling well Tgirl. I'm in the same boat. My husband and friends want to understand but they really can't. You have our support. Username: quitpaxil2015 - Started antidepressants sometime in 1990. Misdiagnosed with Bipolar, but later with thyroid disease in1998 (8 years of being on several different psychiatric meds with several psychiatric hospitalizations). Total thyroidectomy in 1999. At the time, was on 85 mg of Paxil. In 2001, tried to get off Paxil and had car crash due to vertigo and w/d symptoms. Given more psychiatric meds including Prozac and Trazodone to treat SEVERE w/d from Paxil - which is the only reason I still take Paxil. Tried to taper off Paxil again in 2004 - from 25 mg to 20 mg (5 mg cuts) - had to go back on 25 mg on the 10th day of the taper due to inability to function (dizziness, vertigo, motion sickness, crying spells, depersonalization, etc). Currently on Paxil 25 mg and Trazodone 100 mg. Trying to quit Paxil in 2015. April 22, 2015 - Paxil 22.5 mg. May 13, 2015 Paxil 20 mg. June 3, 2015 - Paxil 17.5 mg. June 24, 2015 - Paxil 15 mg. Don't remember - 12.5 mg. August 5, 2015 - Paxil 10 mg. September 16, 2015 - 7.5 mg (considering going back up - severe anxiety/panic) September 28, 2015 - back up to 10 mg. October 6, 2015 - back up to 15 mg. Link to comment
Hopefull Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Hi Tgirl, You will have a life and things will get better. You did your best, but your brain did not like it. Not your fault. I am still stabilizing. It happens. We are all learning from our mistakes. Even if you do a really slow tapper, there are always chances that something could go wrong. Chin up and keep going. Treat your self with something that you like. It is nice to do something that previously made you happy. Have your hair done etc. Best wishes, Hopefull. DRUG HISTORY: November 2013- Zoloft, ( Bad reaction). January 2014 - March 2014 Seroquel.( Quit Cold Turkey). January2014- Mirtazapine, I was taking 15mg at one stage, reduced to 7.5mg, Pgad reactions to Mirtazapine. Doctor kept increasing it to 37.5mg, until July 2014. No improvement, experiencing panic attacks, on 37.5 mg. I had enough by October 2014. Began tapering. October 2014- Started tapering Mirtazapine from 37.5mg. September 2015- Down to 4mg of Mirtazapine. Crashed. September 16th- Up dosed to 5mg. Held this dose for almost 5 months. Stabilised. February 2016- Began tapering again. From 5mg to 4.5mg of Mirtazapine. (Rocking the boat, again)! Lol. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus SquirrellyGirl Posted October 20, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted October 20, 2015 Hi Tgirl, I am feeling so troubled for you! I am tapering mirt and want to do my next 10% cut soon, but this all scares me so much, the torment you are going through, that so many have gone through with this evil drug! My stupid p-doc put me on it after I had mild serotonin syndrome after being in Effexor WD, long story, couldn't eat, lost weight, couldn't sleep....He said it was gentle and that I could play with the dosage, go up as needed. Before I knew it I was on 37.5 mg and completely flat out apathetic, no will to do anything, could hardly get off the couch to wash myself and eat...I ended up reinstating Effexor and so am on the two drugs. I have gained weight, and I am a recovered bulimic so I find it so irresponsible that my p-doc would put me on this drug that causes weight gain and is HELL to come off of! I am so sorry you are going through such a hard time. It seems the low end is where it gets the toughest. I am so sorry your husband is not supportive. It is so hard to have no one who can share this with, so thankfully we have SA! Just know that we are here cheering you on! Hugs, SG Started ADs back around 1995 after bad break-up, starting with Prozac. Switched to Wellbutrin, and then to Effexor in 2002 Effexor XR 2002-2014 up to 225 mg at one point, down to 37.5 mg towards end but back up to 75 mg in 2014; now realize I had W/D as I dropped down, memory very poor about history. Extreme emotions, poor concentration as I stepped back down, didn't connect the dots! Summer 2014 reduced to 0 very quickly, was sick of anhedonia/sexual dysfunction due to meds, depression never controlled if not worse. Didn't recognize WD since symptoms built slowly (thought I had ADD! and menopausal on top of it), starting with severe sweats, very bad cog-fog and memory issues, culminating in weight loss, severe anxiety and depression, panic, severe apathy and insomnia by eight months off. Saw p-doc who put me on Remeron, increased from 7.5 mg/day to 37.5 mg by May 22, 2015; still doing very badly though able to sleep. June 1. 2015 Reinstated Effexor XR 37.5 mg, Remeron dropped to 30 mg PM. Immediate relief of symptoms, like nothing had ever happened! Joined SA and began on advice of friend who recognized it was WD all along! Began tapering in July 2015. Been tapering both meds ever since, focusing on one more than the other or doing no more than 5% of each per month. 12 mg Effexor and 5.8 mg Remeron (mirtazapine SolTabs to make a solution with OraPlus) as of 5/4/2017 Update 3/14/18: 2.9 mg Remeron and 6 mg Effexor; 6/10/18: 2.6 mg Remeron and 4.9 mg Effexor My intro: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/9313-squirrellygirl-effexor-withdrawal-etc/page-2#entry196679 This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. Link to comment
dreamspirit Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 How are you doing today, tgirl ? Been on Paxil since 96”-97”, 40mg tried 3 times to get off and didn’t work, started a very slow taper Jan 2016, have only dropped down by 3 mg.. on 37mg currently.. have very delayed withdrawals. Last drop was in July 2017.. still have waves and windows. Magnesium 200mg, foilc acid 1 mg, vitamin d3 5000iu, Blood pressure meds-Verapamil & Irbesartan... Smoke cbd flower once in awhile. Link to comment
quitpaxil2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Thinking of you Tgirl! Username: quitpaxil2015 - Started antidepressants sometime in 1990. Misdiagnosed with Bipolar, but later with thyroid disease in1998 (8 years of being on several different psychiatric meds with several psychiatric hospitalizations). Total thyroidectomy in 1999. At the time, was on 85 mg of Paxil. In 2001, tried to get off Paxil and had car crash due to vertigo and w/d symptoms. Given more psychiatric meds including Prozac and Trazodone to treat SEVERE w/d from Paxil - which is the only reason I still take Paxil. Tried to taper off Paxil again in 2004 - from 25 mg to 20 mg (5 mg cuts) - had to go back on 25 mg on the 10th day of the taper due to inability to function (dizziness, vertigo, motion sickness, crying spells, depersonalization, etc). Currently on Paxil 25 mg and Trazodone 100 mg. Trying to quit Paxil in 2015. April 22, 2015 - Paxil 22.5 mg. May 13, 2015 Paxil 20 mg. June 3, 2015 - Paxil 17.5 mg. June 24, 2015 - Paxil 15 mg. Don't remember - 12.5 mg. August 5, 2015 - Paxil 10 mg. September 16, 2015 - 7.5 mg (considering going back up - severe anxiety/panic) September 28, 2015 - back up to 10 mg. October 6, 2015 - back up to 15 mg. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus JanCarol Posted October 25, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted October 25, 2015 Hey Tgirl - did you survive the antibiotics? And did you get the tooth out? I'm unsure about Melanie's advice to take probiotics while on the antibiotics - it may ameliorate some of discomfort but my doctor friend says (this is word-of-mouth here, nothing official) that you just waste the probiotics. But if you are done with the antibiotics, now is the time to stock up on some good old lactobacilli and repopulate your gut with friendly bacteria. You will feel so much better when you do. Please let us know how you are going? "Easy, easy - just go easy and you'll finish." - Hawaiian Kapuna Holding is hard work, holding is a blessing. Give your brain time to heal before you try again. My suggestions are not medical advice, you are in charge of your own medical choices. A lifetime of being prescribed antidepressants that caused problems (30 years in total). At age 35 flipped to "bipolar," but was not diagnosed for 5 years. Started my journey in Midwest United States. Crossed the Pacific for love and hope; currently living in Australia. CT Seroquel 25 mg some time in 2013. Tapered Reboxetine 4 mg Oct 2013 to Sept 2014 = GONE (3 years on Reboxetine). Tapered Lithium 900 to 475 MG (alternating with the SNRI) Jan 2014 - Nov 2014, tapered Lithium 475 mg Jan 2015 - Feb 2016 = GONE (10 years on Lithium). Many mistakes in dry cutting dosages were made. The tedious thread (my intro): JanCarol ☼ Reboxetine first, then Lithium The happy thread (my success story): JanCarol - Undiagnosed Off all bipolar drugs My own blog: https://shamanexplorations.com/shamans-blog/ I have been psych drug FREE since 1 Feb 2016! Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted October 25, 2015 Administrator Share Posted October 25, 2015 Supposedly if you take the probiotics at a different time than the antibiotics, some of the probiotic bacteria will survive. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
leahy Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 HI Tgirl, I hope you are feeling better today. I have been having terrible issues with lack of sleep which results in a god awful hangover, nausea and headache the next day. The headache has been pretty much a constant headache since wd in February. Recenetly I tried melatonin again and it has been helping me. Not EVERY day but most days which is a huge improvement for me. I started with 1 mg but I'm discovering 3 mg really works for me. If/when I wake at night I take melatonin again. I am trying to avoid using xanax to help me sleep. I think xanax makes things worse ultimately. However, I do use it in desperation sometimes. Like last night. Today I feel terrible. My recent posts have more detail about my recent melatonin/sleep/headache discoveries if you are interested. I wanted to post this for you in case it can be helpful to you. Remeron wreaks havoc with our sleep. WD from Remeron makes sleep issues much worse. No sleep makes us sick and miserable. And sad. And unmotivated. And fat. And nauseous. And headachy. Lack of sleep goes is unbearable and goes way beyond "Oh my I'm a little sleepy today." All we need is a good night's sleep. Then miracles can happen and the world looks brighter. Hang on, Tgirl. Hugs, Leahy 2001-2007 Rem 90 mg, xanax 2 mg synthroid 112mcg - 2007-2014 Rem 60 mg xanax 3-4 mg 2015 Feb Rem 45 mg xanax 2 mg, March Rem 30 xanax 2, April Rem 22.5, May Rem 30 xanax .25x4 hrs, June Rem 26 xanax 2-3, July Rem 22.5 xanax 2, Aug Rem 15 xanax 2, Sept Rem 22 xanax 2, Oct Rem 18 mg xanax .25 mg /4 hrs, Nov Rem 23 mg xanax .5mg, Dec Rem 24 xanax 2 2016 Jan Rem 20 xanax 2, Feb Rem 18 mg xanax 1.5, Feb Rem 14 12 mg xanax 1 mg, March Rem 10 9 mg xanax 1-2 mg Rem 7.3 8 xanax 1-2, April Rem 10 12 mg xanax 2 mg, May Rem 11 xanax 1 .75mg Nov Rem 10mg Xanax 2mg 2017 May Rem 10.25 Xanax 1 mg, November Xanax 1mg Link to comment
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