Zant808 Posted September 17, 2017 Author Share Posted September 17, 2017 On 9/12/2017 at 2:01 AM, bubble said: That sounds great! So it was around two weeks of fragmented sleep but you practiced various calming techniques, rode it out and now your sleep is back to normal? (And some time before you would've gone up or down with your drugs...) Just keep it slow and steady. Yes, I will just have to continue to practice different calming techniques and endure any suffering. I've held at 875 mg of Depakote Sprinkles for about 40 days now so I made a reduction to 850 mg and will hold for a while. I've been on dozens of psychiatric medications starting with being forced to take Prozac back as a minor in the mid 1990s. All doctors would cold turkey me from medications. I did not learn about withdrawal until the mid 2000's by reading Dr. Breggin's books and finding sites similar to this one. I had one successful full cleansing from medication in 2007 and began to recover from some of the iatrogenic damages. I started to drink alcohol in 2008 to try and recover from PSSD and then about 6 months later, I lost my ability to sleep and was put into an inpatient psychiatric facility and redrugged. The only med combination that has allowed me to sleep was 1250 mg of Depakote ER and 3 mg Klonopin. However, my quality of life is terrible on these meds. I want to try to get off everything now once again. I have failed a couple of times trying to come off these meds recently but will try again once I can find a psychiatrist who understands withdrawal and can support me. UPDATE: I have not consumed any alcohol in over 10 years. May 2019 - I started to reduce Anafranil very slowly so I can see a PSSD specialist. I also plan on trying stem cell therapy to repair my iatrogenic brain damage. Current meds: 1125 mg Depakote Sprinkles, 3 mg Klonopin Current side effects: PSSD, insomnia, odd sleep schedule, anhedonia, lack of motivation, cognitive issues, memory loss, hair loss, weight gain, dry mouth Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus bubble Posted September 17, 2017 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 17, 2017 Keep us posted. Are you journaling your symptoms? With most of us a pattern emergies after cutting: for me I can expect symptoms between 8-15 days after a cut, the symptoms can last up to 7 or 10 days and then decrease and I go back to my WD normal. There are usually stresses and just the difficulty of enduring 8 hours at the office which make things additionally difficult. But broadely speaking it works like that. Have you noticed any similar pattern? Current: 9/2022 Xanax 0.08, Lexapro 2 2020 Xanax 0.26 (down from 2 mg in 2013), Lexapro 2.85 mg (down from 5 mg 2013) Amitriptyline (tricyclic AD) and clonazepam for 3 months to treat headache in 1996 1999. - present Xanax prn up to 3 mg. 2000-2005 Prozac CT twice, 2005-2010 Zoloft CT 3 times, 2010-2013 Escitalopram 10 mg went from 2.5 to zero on 7 Aug 2013, bad crash 40 days afterreinstated to 5 mg Escitalopram 4Oct 2013 and holding liquid Xanax every 5 hours 28 Jan 2014 Xanax 1.9, 18 Apr 2015 1 mg, 25 June 2015 Lex 4.8, 6 Aug Lexapro 4.6, 1 Jan 2016 0.64 Xanax 9 month hold 24 Sept 2016 4.5 Lex, 17 Oct 4.4 Lex (Nov 0.63 Xanax, Dec 0.625 Xanax), 1 Jan 2017 4.3 Lex, 24 Jan 4.2, 5 Feb 4.1, 24 Mar 4 mg, 10 Apr 3.9 mg, May 3.85, June 3.8, July 3.75, 22 July 3.7, 15 Aug 3.65, 17 Sept 3.6, 1 Jan 2018 3.55, 19 Jan 3.5, 16 Mar 3.4, 14 Apr 3.3, 23 May 3.2, 16 June 3.15, 15 Jul 3.1, 31 Jul 3, 21 Aug 2.9 26 Sept 2.85, 14 Nov Xan 0.61, 1 Dec 0.59, 19 Dec 0.58, 4 Jan 0.565, 6 Feb 0.55, 20 Feb 0.535, 1 Mar 0.505, 10 Mar 0.475, 14 Mar 0.45, 4 Apr 0.415, 13 Apr 0.37, 21 Apr 0.33, 29 Apr 0.29, 10 May 0.27, 17 May 0.25, 28 May 0.22, 19 June 0.22, 21 Jun updose to 0.24, 24 Jun updose to 0.26 Supplements: Omega 3 + Vit E, Vit C, D, magnesium, Taurine, probiotic I'm not a medical professional. Any advice I give is based on my own experience and reading. Link to comment
xamendrummerx Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Hey Zant, I knew you on MSN messenger a few years ago. I'm so glad you're around. My username's initials on MSN were SR (just initials since I don't want to give away my old identity here since I had bad blood on that Paxil forum from long ago, but I'm sure you can figure out who I am). I'm still having trouble with my sleep. It might actually be the analgesic itch cream I've been using all these years and I never thought it might be that all this time. My problems always cleared up in a year's time before I started using the cream. Zoloft cold turkey in early '07. Survived withdrawal with other meds. Hypersensitive to certain products/food/chemicals ever since. I'm not imagining things since they occur the day after I take them or tried something new the day before. Link to comment
Zant808 Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 I've been making small reductions of 25 mg per week and made it down to 750 mg where I am holding for a month. I've had a weird month for sure. Earlier in the month I slept for almost 20 hours in a single day and didn't have any strength to get out of the reclining chair I was sleeping in. I have no idea why this happened. I have a cold now and I'm not sleeping as well as I'd like to. I'm only getting around 5 to 7 hours of sleep per night. My pdoc retired unexpectedly and now I have a young newbie who is a bit of a religious nut and I can already tell this pdoc doesn't want to follow with the previous pdoc's withdrawal plan. Even with Dr. David Healy's proof and new fundraiser for PSSD, this pdoc didn't want to believe it existed. Pressures at home are increasing as my stepfather's dementia worsens yet my mother will not let go due to financial reasons. I still have about 1 year before I become the breadwinner of the house and can leave to live on my own if I wanted to, but I'd be leaving with the uncertainty if I could survive my current withdrawal without having a meltdown due to lack of sleep. After Halloween, I'm not looking forward to the holidays or the brutal cold weather that lies ahead. I'm getting too old for this. I've been on dozens of psychiatric medications starting with being forced to take Prozac back as a minor in the mid 1990s. All doctors would cold turkey me from medications. I did not learn about withdrawal until the mid 2000's by reading Dr. Breggin's books and finding sites similar to this one. I had one successful full cleansing from medication in 2007 and began to recover from some of the iatrogenic damages. I started to drink alcohol in 2008 to try and recover from PSSD and then about 6 months later, I lost my ability to sleep and was put into an inpatient psychiatric facility and redrugged. The only med combination that has allowed me to sleep was 1250 mg of Depakote ER and 3 mg Klonopin. However, my quality of life is terrible on these meds. I want to try to get off everything now once again. I have failed a couple of times trying to come off these meds recently but will try again once I can find a psychiatrist who understands withdrawal and can support me. UPDATE: I have not consumed any alcohol in over 10 years. May 2019 - I started to reduce Anafranil very slowly so I can see a PSSD specialist. I also plan on trying stem cell therapy to repair my iatrogenic brain damage. Current meds: 1125 mg Depakote Sprinkles, 3 mg Klonopin Current side effects: PSSD, insomnia, odd sleep schedule, anhedonia, lack of motivation, cognitive issues, memory loss, hair loss, weight gain, dry mouth Link to comment
Zant808 Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 On 9/17/2017 at 5:55 AM, bubble said: Keep us posted. Are you journaling your symptoms? With most of us a pattern emergies after cutting: for me I can expect symptoms between 8-15 days after a cut, the symptoms can last up to 7 or 10 days and then decrease and I go back to my WD normal. There are usually stresses and just the difficulty of enduring 8 hours at the office which make things additionally difficult. But broadely speaking it works like that. Have you noticed any similar pattern? Sorry for the long delay in a reply. I'm not sure if quoting is the only thing that "pings" you that this thread has been replied to. I've been journaling symptoms over on the BB forum that only allows yourself to add more replies to the thread. I'm pretty upset that the owner of the Beyond Meds blog has retired as it feels like more and more helpful places are disappearing. I can't really say I see any types of patterns emerging. Things feel very random. I had bronchitis for most of late October and early November. I just reduced to 725 mg of Depakote Sprinkles from 750 mg of Depakote Sprinkles about 5 days ago. I think I held at 750 mg for about 45 days. I'm still taking 3 mg of Klonopin and 25 mg of Anafranil. I'm extremely depressed and I just feel like I want to rest all of the time and I wonder about what my life's purpose is. I have little motivation to do anything, especially to go outside since I am sensitive to cold temperatures. It's 28 degrees F right now and that's unbearable to me already and it's not even winter yet. As for PSSD, it looks like there are many people experimenting with a prescription drug called Ella which is a female emergency birth control. I can't imagine that adding that drug to my current cocktail could do anything positive but maybe 3 years later when I'm hopefully off everything there will be more data on how that can reverse PSSD. I've been on dozens of psychiatric medications starting with being forced to take Prozac back as a minor in the mid 1990s. All doctors would cold turkey me from medications. I did not learn about withdrawal until the mid 2000's by reading Dr. Breggin's books and finding sites similar to this one. I had one successful full cleansing from medication in 2007 and began to recover from some of the iatrogenic damages. I started to drink alcohol in 2008 to try and recover from PSSD and then about 6 months later, I lost my ability to sleep and was put into an inpatient psychiatric facility and redrugged. The only med combination that has allowed me to sleep was 1250 mg of Depakote ER and 3 mg Klonopin. However, my quality of life is terrible on these meds. I want to try to get off everything now once again. I have failed a couple of times trying to come off these meds recently but will try again once I can find a psychiatrist who understands withdrawal and can support me. UPDATE: I have not consumed any alcohol in over 10 years. May 2019 - I started to reduce Anafranil very slowly so I can see a PSSD specialist. I also plan on trying stem cell therapy to repair my iatrogenic brain damage. Current meds: 1125 mg Depakote Sprinkles, 3 mg Klonopin Current side effects: PSSD, insomnia, odd sleep schedule, anhedonia, lack of motivation, cognitive issues, memory loss, hair loss, weight gain, dry mouth Link to comment
xamendrummerx Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Hey Zant, I've been through the insomnia for years from Zoloft damaging me. I just noticed after 10 years that I sleep a lot better if I keep a regular sleep schedule. I didn't even think a body clock was a real thing. 3-8pm is the worst time to sleep, and I do it a lot since I find it hard to keep a regular schedule. It took me 10 years to notice that. I think you should try to sleep only at night and see if it gets better. I actually had a whole month of sleep because I didn't sleep in 3-8pm time anymore. Now that I have, I noticed it's back and terrible. I really wish I didn't have to sleep in the afternoons. A body clock must actually exist and is very important if even someone as damaged as me is feeling better from following a schedule. Zoloft cold turkey in early '07. Survived withdrawal with other meds. Hypersensitive to certain products/food/chemicals ever since. I'm not imagining things since they occur the day after I take them or tried something new the day before. Link to comment
Zant808 Posted January 15, 2018 Author Share Posted January 15, 2018 On 12/7/2017 at 1:50 AM, xamendrummerx said: Hey Zant, I've been through the insomnia for years from Zoloft damaging me. I just noticed after 10 years that I sleep a lot better if I keep a regular sleep schedule. I didn't even think a body clock was a real thing. 3-8pm is the worst time to sleep, and I do it a lot since I find it hard to keep a regular schedule. It took me 10 years to notice that. I think you should try to sleep only at night and see if it gets better. I actually had a whole month of sleep because I didn't sleep in 3-8pm time anymore. Now that I have, I noticed it's back and terrible. I really wish I didn't have to sleep in the afternoons. A body clock must actually exist and is very important if even someone as damaged as me is feeling better from following a schedule. Sorry for not responding to you earlier. I know Windows Messenger was aborted by Microsoft for Skype and I'm not really sure what happened to my contact list there. I remember my AIM buddy list better although that closed down a month ago today. I really wish I could keep a regular sleep schedule. Right now I'm trying to get up earlier but I feel so overwhelmed by the depressing, cold weather that I just nap. So then when there's nobody awake in the house I work on the computer all night and don't go to bed until around 8 AM. I'll finally be trying another reduction on my Depakote Sprinkles this week once I get my blood work done. It sucks that I probably won't be off Depakote Sprinkles until the end of this year and then I still have to figure out how to get off Klonopin and Anafranil. How much do you think you have recovered since your Zoloft cold turkey? Did you have PSSD at all? I've been on dozens of psychiatric medications starting with being forced to take Prozac back as a minor in the mid 1990s. All doctors would cold turkey me from medications. I did not learn about withdrawal until the mid 2000's by reading Dr. Breggin's books and finding sites similar to this one. I had one successful full cleansing from medication in 2007 and began to recover from some of the iatrogenic damages. I started to drink alcohol in 2008 to try and recover from PSSD and then about 6 months later, I lost my ability to sleep and was put into an inpatient psychiatric facility and redrugged. The only med combination that has allowed me to sleep was 1250 mg of Depakote ER and 3 mg Klonopin. However, my quality of life is terrible on these meds. I want to try to get off everything now once again. I have failed a couple of times trying to come off these meds recently but will try again once I can find a psychiatrist who understands withdrawal and can support me. UPDATE: I have not consumed any alcohol in over 10 years. May 2019 - I started to reduce Anafranil very slowly so I can see a PSSD specialist. I also plan on trying stem cell therapy to repair my iatrogenic brain damage. Current meds: 1125 mg Depakote Sprinkles, 3 mg Klonopin Current side effects: PSSD, insomnia, odd sleep schedule, anhedonia, lack of motivation, cognitive issues, memory loss, hair loss, weight gain, dry mouth Link to comment
Zant808 Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 After approximately 43 days of holding at 625 mg of Depakote Sprinkles, I have now reduced from 625 mg of Depakote Sprinkles to 600 mg of Depakote Sprinkles. I am also taking 3 mg of Klonopin and 25 mg of Anafranil. I've been on dozens of psychiatric medications starting with being forced to take Prozac back as a minor in the mid 1990s. All doctors would cold turkey me from medications. I did not learn about withdrawal until the mid 2000's by reading Dr. Breggin's books and finding sites similar to this one. I had one successful full cleansing from medication in 2007 and began to recover from some of the iatrogenic damages. I started to drink alcohol in 2008 to try and recover from PSSD and then about 6 months later, I lost my ability to sleep and was put into an inpatient psychiatric facility and redrugged. The only med combination that has allowed me to sleep was 1250 mg of Depakote ER and 3 mg Klonopin. However, my quality of life is terrible on these meds. I want to try to get off everything now once again. I have failed a couple of times trying to come off these meds recently but will try again once I can find a psychiatrist who understands withdrawal and can support me. UPDATE: I have not consumed any alcohol in over 10 years. May 2019 - I started to reduce Anafranil very slowly so I can see a PSSD specialist. I also plan on trying stem cell therapy to repair my iatrogenic brain damage. Current meds: 1125 mg Depakote Sprinkles, 3 mg Klonopin Current side effects: PSSD, insomnia, odd sleep schedule, anhedonia, lack of motivation, cognitive issues, memory loss, hair loss, weight gain, dry mouth Link to comment
Zant808 Posted January 30, 2018 Author Share Posted January 30, 2018 I'm down to 575 mg of Depakote Sprinkles. I've been on dozens of psychiatric medications starting with being forced to take Prozac back as a minor in the mid 1990s. All doctors would cold turkey me from medications. I did not learn about withdrawal until the mid 2000's by reading Dr. Breggin's books and finding sites similar to this one. I had one successful full cleansing from medication in 2007 and began to recover from some of the iatrogenic damages. I started to drink alcohol in 2008 to try and recover from PSSD and then about 6 months later, I lost my ability to sleep and was put into an inpatient psychiatric facility and redrugged. The only med combination that has allowed me to sleep was 1250 mg of Depakote ER and 3 mg Klonopin. However, my quality of life is terrible on these meds. I want to try to get off everything now once again. I have failed a couple of times trying to come off these meds recently but will try again once I can find a psychiatrist who understands withdrawal and can support me. UPDATE: I have not consumed any alcohol in over 10 years. May 2019 - I started to reduce Anafranil very slowly so I can see a PSSD specialist. I also plan on trying stem cell therapy to repair my iatrogenic brain damage. Current meds: 1125 mg Depakote Sprinkles, 3 mg Klonopin Current side effects: PSSD, insomnia, odd sleep schedule, anhedonia, lack of motivation, cognitive issues, memory loss, hair loss, weight gain, dry mouth Link to comment
Zant808 Posted February 5, 2018 Author Share Posted February 5, 2018 I'm down to 550 mg of Depakote Sprinkles and will be holding for a while. I've been on dozens of psychiatric medications starting with being forced to take Prozac back as a minor in the mid 1990s. All doctors would cold turkey me from medications. I did not learn about withdrawal until the mid 2000's by reading Dr. Breggin's books and finding sites similar to this one. I had one successful full cleansing from medication in 2007 and began to recover from some of the iatrogenic damages. I started to drink alcohol in 2008 to try and recover from PSSD and then about 6 months later, I lost my ability to sleep and was put into an inpatient psychiatric facility and redrugged. The only med combination that has allowed me to sleep was 1250 mg of Depakote ER and 3 mg Klonopin. However, my quality of life is terrible on these meds. I want to try to get off everything now once again. I have failed a couple of times trying to come off these meds recently but will try again once I can find a psychiatrist who understands withdrawal and can support me. UPDATE: I have not consumed any alcohol in over 10 years. May 2019 - I started to reduce Anafranil very slowly so I can see a PSSD specialist. I also plan on trying stem cell therapy to repair my iatrogenic brain damage. Current meds: 1125 mg Depakote Sprinkles, 3 mg Klonopin Current side effects: PSSD, insomnia, odd sleep schedule, anhedonia, lack of motivation, cognitive issues, memory loss, hair loss, weight gain, dry mouth Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted February 5, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted February 5, 2018 Oooooo that's great news. Heading in the right direction!!! * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Zant808 Posted February 14, 2018 Author Share Posted February 14, 2018 On 2/5/2018 at 12:34 AM, ChessieCat said: Oooooo that's great news. Heading in the right direction!!! Thanks ChessieCat. I'm at 525 mg of Depakote Sprinkles and holding now. I've been on dozens of psychiatric medications starting with being forced to take Prozac back as a minor in the mid 1990s. All doctors would cold turkey me from medications. I did not learn about withdrawal until the mid 2000's by reading Dr. Breggin's books and finding sites similar to this one. I had one successful full cleansing from medication in 2007 and began to recover from some of the iatrogenic damages. I started to drink alcohol in 2008 to try and recover from PSSD and then about 6 months later, I lost my ability to sleep and was put into an inpatient psychiatric facility and redrugged. The only med combination that has allowed me to sleep was 1250 mg of Depakote ER and 3 mg Klonopin. However, my quality of life is terrible on these meds. I want to try to get off everything now once again. I have failed a couple of times trying to come off these meds recently but will try again once I can find a psychiatrist who understands withdrawal and can support me. UPDATE: I have not consumed any alcohol in over 10 years. May 2019 - I started to reduce Anafranil very slowly so I can see a PSSD specialist. I also plan on trying stem cell therapy to repair my iatrogenic brain damage. Current meds: 1125 mg Depakote Sprinkles, 3 mg Klonopin Current side effects: PSSD, insomnia, odd sleep schedule, anhedonia, lack of motivation, cognitive issues, memory loss, hair loss, weight gain, dry mouth Link to comment
Zant808 Posted February 18, 2018 Author Share Posted February 18, 2018 I'm down to 500 mg of Depakote Sprinkles now and will be holding for one month. I've been on dozens of psychiatric medications starting with being forced to take Prozac back as a minor in the mid 1990s. All doctors would cold turkey me from medications. I did not learn about withdrawal until the mid 2000's by reading Dr. Breggin's books and finding sites similar to this one. I had one successful full cleansing from medication in 2007 and began to recover from some of the iatrogenic damages. I started to drink alcohol in 2008 to try and recover from PSSD and then about 6 months later, I lost my ability to sleep and was put into an inpatient psychiatric facility and redrugged. The only med combination that has allowed me to sleep was 1250 mg of Depakote ER and 3 mg Klonopin. However, my quality of life is terrible on these meds. I want to try to get off everything now once again. I have failed a couple of times trying to come off these meds recently but will try again once I can find a psychiatrist who understands withdrawal and can support me. UPDATE: I have not consumed any alcohol in over 10 years. May 2019 - I started to reduce Anafranil very slowly so I can see a PSSD specialist. I also plan on trying stem cell therapy to repair my iatrogenic brain damage. Current meds: 1125 mg Depakote Sprinkles, 3 mg Klonopin Current side effects: PSSD, insomnia, odd sleep schedule, anhedonia, lack of motivation, cognitive issues, memory loss, hair loss, weight gain, dry mouth Link to comment
Zant808 Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 I'm at day 12 of holding at 500 mg of Depakote Sprinkles. I've been on dozens of psychiatric medications starting with being forced to take Prozac back as a minor in the mid 1990s. All doctors would cold turkey me from medications. I did not learn about withdrawal until the mid 2000's by reading Dr. Breggin's books and finding sites similar to this one. I had one successful full cleansing from medication in 2007 and began to recover from some of the iatrogenic damages. I started to drink alcohol in 2008 to try and recover from PSSD and then about 6 months later, I lost my ability to sleep and was put into an inpatient psychiatric facility and redrugged. The only med combination that has allowed me to sleep was 1250 mg of Depakote ER and 3 mg Klonopin. However, my quality of life is terrible on these meds. I want to try to get off everything now once again. I have failed a couple of times trying to come off these meds recently but will try again once I can find a psychiatrist who understands withdrawal and can support me. UPDATE: I have not consumed any alcohol in over 10 years. May 2019 - I started to reduce Anafranil very slowly so I can see a PSSD specialist. I also plan on trying stem cell therapy to repair my iatrogenic brain damage. Current meds: 1125 mg Depakote Sprinkles, 3 mg Klonopin Current side effects: PSSD, insomnia, odd sleep schedule, anhedonia, lack of motivation, cognitive issues, memory loss, hair loss, weight gain, dry mouth Link to comment
Zant808 Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 Before I write anything else, I should say that I feel extremely stuck and I need to figure out a new plan of action otherwise I don't see how I'm going to withdraw from my remaining medications. I cannot do this alone and I just feel like I'm doing the same thing over and over where I hit a point with either the Depakote or Klonopin is too low and then I cannot sleep and then I wind up in inpatient. So I'm at about day 28 of holding at 500 mg Depakote Sprinkles, 3 mg Klonopin and 25 mg of Anafranil. I just got back from a week away on vacation in Las Vegas on March 13, 2018. For some reason I wasn't able to sleep well even though I still didn't drink any alcohol since May 2009. Recreation and medical marijuana is legal there now so I always wanted to try and see if the edible form would help me with sleep. Sadly it did not do anything but just relax my body a little bit but then it made me think way too much so that's not a good solution to help me either. I think a lot of the trip was triggering because I'm in my late 30's now and I have been dealing with this since my teenage years with no real solution. So, I see all of these young people, wealthy people, happy couples, people who can feel love and other emotions, people who can do the legal recreational drugs like alcohol, marijuana and recover the next day and have a story to tell about it and then I feel like my life is just so pathetic because I cannot feel love, have sex and I cannot even sleep. My brain is damaged and I'm stuck on these horrible medications. I keep seeing such exponential advances in every field except for neuroscience. I just went with the flow and did the normal things there like eating out and going to different concerts and shows and some gambling. I'm home now and I have a cold or maybe something worse...I still have to go to the doctor for that. I had a bad reaction to Cold-Eeze cough medication and some vitamin C and magnesium supplements and started to have horrible mood swings. So now I'm stuck back at home and just trying to get back to my old pattern of just working on the computer to keep my mind occupied and to try and make some money and my sleep isn't returning to normal. Anafranil was supposed to be the medication that put me to sleep no matter what while I withdraw from Depakote and Klonopin. The last time I left the psych hospital in the summer of 2016 I was on 6 sedating psychiatric medications but really only the Anafranil did something strong enough to allow me to sleep enough and leave the hospital. So again, I'm back to just having the same tools and same plan that appears it is going to lead me nowhere. There are very few options left that I haven't tried. Milk peptides, cherry tart juice and phenibut? I even contacted a stem cell research place that has fixed people who have had TBI from car accidents to see what they could do for me but I haven't heard back from them yet. My hands are in the air and I'm just lost again. I don't want to make the wrong decision and I don't want to pretend like I know everything about withdrawal etc. Help? I've been on dozens of psychiatric medications starting with being forced to take Prozac back as a minor in the mid 1990s. All doctors would cold turkey me from medications. I did not learn about withdrawal until the mid 2000's by reading Dr. Breggin's books and finding sites similar to this one. I had one successful full cleansing from medication in 2007 and began to recover from some of the iatrogenic damages. I started to drink alcohol in 2008 to try and recover from PSSD and then about 6 months later, I lost my ability to sleep and was put into an inpatient psychiatric facility and redrugged. The only med combination that has allowed me to sleep was 1250 mg of Depakote ER and 3 mg Klonopin. However, my quality of life is terrible on these meds. I want to try to get off everything now once again. I have failed a couple of times trying to come off these meds recently but will try again once I can find a psychiatrist who understands withdrawal and can support me. UPDATE: I have not consumed any alcohol in over 10 years. May 2019 - I started to reduce Anafranil very slowly so I can see a PSSD specialist. I also plan on trying stem cell therapy to repair my iatrogenic brain damage. Current meds: 1125 mg Depakote Sprinkles, 3 mg Klonopin Current side effects: PSSD, insomnia, odd sleep schedule, anhedonia, lack of motivation, cognitive issues, memory loss, hair loss, weight gain, dry mouth Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted March 15, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 15, 2018 It sounds like your holiday was overstimulating. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Zant808 Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 4 hours ago, ChessieCat said: It sounds like your holiday was overstimulating. I agree about the overstimulation ChessieCat. I also went on vacation to a more relaxing environment in Arizona for this past New Years Eve and I still had horrible issues with sleeping. I travel to New York City and Philadelphia at least twice a month for events such as concerts and those are both extremely stimulating environments but I wind up sleeping at home with no problems. So I guess part of the plan is to not go on vacation / switch time zones. But that is still far from a complete plan. The Stem Cell Therapy place never returned my call, but I will try to call them myself tomorrow. One other option that I actually found in Arizona was the Mayo Clinic which was about 20 minutes away from my hotel. I think with my current disability insurance they will pay 80% of the bill and those are supposed to be the best doctors in the entire world. But how do I approach them without them just saying we'll admit you to our psychiatric hospital as opposed to a sleep clinic or other option? I've been on dozens of psychiatric medications starting with being forced to take Prozac back as a minor in the mid 1990s. All doctors would cold turkey me from medications. I did not learn about withdrawal until the mid 2000's by reading Dr. Breggin's books and finding sites similar to this one. I had one successful full cleansing from medication in 2007 and began to recover from some of the iatrogenic damages. I started to drink alcohol in 2008 to try and recover from PSSD and then about 6 months later, I lost my ability to sleep and was put into an inpatient psychiatric facility and redrugged. The only med combination that has allowed me to sleep was 1250 mg of Depakote ER and 3 mg Klonopin. However, my quality of life is terrible on these meds. I want to try to get off everything now once again. I have failed a couple of times trying to come off these meds recently but will try again once I can find a psychiatrist who understands withdrawal and can support me. UPDATE: I have not consumed any alcohol in over 10 years. May 2019 - I started to reduce Anafranil very slowly so I can see a PSSD specialist. I also plan on trying stem cell therapy to repair my iatrogenic brain damage. Current meds: 1125 mg Depakote Sprinkles, 3 mg Klonopin Current side effects: PSSD, insomnia, odd sleep schedule, anhedonia, lack of motivation, cognitive issues, memory loss, hair loss, weight gain, dry mouth Link to comment
Zant808 Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 So I was diagnosed with bronchitis and now I have to take Zithromax. I feel absolutely miserable. I've been on dozens of psychiatric medications starting with being forced to take Prozac back as a minor in the mid 1990s. All doctors would cold turkey me from medications. I did not learn about withdrawal until the mid 2000's by reading Dr. Breggin's books and finding sites similar to this one. I had one successful full cleansing from medication in 2007 and began to recover from some of the iatrogenic damages. I started to drink alcohol in 2008 to try and recover from PSSD and then about 6 months later, I lost my ability to sleep and was put into an inpatient psychiatric facility and redrugged. The only med combination that has allowed me to sleep was 1250 mg of Depakote ER and 3 mg Klonopin. However, my quality of life is terrible on these meds. I want to try to get off everything now once again. I have failed a couple of times trying to come off these meds recently but will try again once I can find a psychiatrist who understands withdrawal and can support me. UPDATE: I have not consumed any alcohol in over 10 years. May 2019 - I started to reduce Anafranil very slowly so I can see a PSSD specialist. I also plan on trying stem cell therapy to repair my iatrogenic brain damage. Current meds: 1125 mg Depakote Sprinkles, 3 mg Klonopin Current side effects: PSSD, insomnia, odd sleep schedule, anhedonia, lack of motivation, cognitive issues, memory loss, hair loss, weight gain, dry mouth Link to comment
Zant808 Posted March 18, 2018 Author Share Posted March 18, 2018 Day 30 of holding and trying to stabilize. Day 2 of 5 for the Zithromax. Overall life score is 0 out of 10. I've been on dozens of psychiatric medications starting with being forced to take Prozac back as a minor in the mid 1990s. All doctors would cold turkey me from medications. I did not learn about withdrawal until the mid 2000's by reading Dr. Breggin's books and finding sites similar to this one. I had one successful full cleansing from medication in 2007 and began to recover from some of the iatrogenic damages. I started to drink alcohol in 2008 to try and recover from PSSD and then about 6 months later, I lost my ability to sleep and was put into an inpatient psychiatric facility and redrugged. The only med combination that has allowed me to sleep was 1250 mg of Depakote ER and 3 mg Klonopin. However, my quality of life is terrible on these meds. I want to try to get off everything now once again. I have failed a couple of times trying to come off these meds recently but will try again once I can find a psychiatrist who understands withdrawal and can support me. UPDATE: I have not consumed any alcohol in over 10 years. May 2019 - I started to reduce Anafranil very slowly so I can see a PSSD specialist. I also plan on trying stem cell therapy to repair my iatrogenic brain damage. Current meds: 1125 mg Depakote Sprinkles, 3 mg Klonopin Current side effects: PSSD, insomnia, odd sleep schedule, anhedonia, lack of motivation, cognitive issues, memory loss, hair loss, weight gain, dry mouth Link to comment
Zant808 Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 Day 31 of holding and trying to stabilize. Day 3 of 5 for the Zithromax. I managed to fall asleep for a little bit even before taking the meds but I was woken up by the bronchitis symptoms. Overall life score is still 0 out of 10. I've been on dozens of psychiatric medications starting with being forced to take Prozac back as a minor in the mid 1990s. All doctors would cold turkey me from medications. I did not learn about withdrawal until the mid 2000's by reading Dr. Breggin's books and finding sites similar to this one. I had one successful full cleansing from medication in 2007 and began to recover from some of the iatrogenic damages. I started to drink alcohol in 2008 to try and recover from PSSD and then about 6 months later, I lost my ability to sleep and was put into an inpatient psychiatric facility and redrugged. The only med combination that has allowed me to sleep was 1250 mg of Depakote ER and 3 mg Klonopin. However, my quality of life is terrible on these meds. I want to try to get off everything now once again. I have failed a couple of times trying to come off these meds recently but will try again once I can find a psychiatrist who understands withdrawal and can support me. UPDATE: I have not consumed any alcohol in over 10 years. May 2019 - I started to reduce Anafranil very slowly so I can see a PSSD specialist. I also plan on trying stem cell therapy to repair my iatrogenic brain damage. Current meds: 1125 mg Depakote Sprinkles, 3 mg Klonopin Current side effects: PSSD, insomnia, odd sleep schedule, anhedonia, lack of motivation, cognitive issues, memory loss, hair loss, weight gain, dry mouth Link to comment
Zant808 Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 Day 32 of holding and trying to stabilize. Day 4 of 5 for the Zithromax. My sleep has improved somewhere between 4 and 6 hours but the bronchitis is still really awful. Overall life score is about 2 out of 10 now. I've been on dozens of psychiatric medications starting with being forced to take Prozac back as a minor in the mid 1990s. All doctors would cold turkey me from medications. I did not learn about withdrawal until the mid 2000's by reading Dr. Breggin's books and finding sites similar to this one. I had one successful full cleansing from medication in 2007 and began to recover from some of the iatrogenic damages. I started to drink alcohol in 2008 to try and recover from PSSD and then about 6 months later, I lost my ability to sleep and was put into an inpatient psychiatric facility and redrugged. The only med combination that has allowed me to sleep was 1250 mg of Depakote ER and 3 mg Klonopin. However, my quality of life is terrible on these meds. I want to try to get off everything now once again. I have failed a couple of times trying to come off these meds recently but will try again once I can find a psychiatrist who understands withdrawal and can support me. UPDATE: I have not consumed any alcohol in over 10 years. May 2019 - I started to reduce Anafranil very slowly so I can see a PSSD specialist. I also plan on trying stem cell therapy to repair my iatrogenic brain damage. Current meds: 1125 mg Depakote Sprinkles, 3 mg Klonopin Current side effects: PSSD, insomnia, odd sleep schedule, anhedonia, lack of motivation, cognitive issues, memory loss, hair loss, weight gain, dry mouth Link to comment
Zant808 Posted March 21, 2018 Author Share Posted March 21, 2018 Since there are very few forum based withdrawal sites left and this is one of the big two that are still running, I figure I should just keep the same data on both in case one goes down. Considering I have about another 3 years until I can maybe withdraw from everything, this is likely a good idea. At some point I should keep everything locally as well. 3/20/2018 - I took my final Zithromax pill today. I don't know if I still have bronchitis or if it's turning into pneumonia. I was able to sleep a lot today, so I suppose my system is stabilizing. I am quite afraid to go down any further on the Depakote Sprinkles right now. My symptoms: PSSD, insomnia, anxiety, confusion, memory loss, no motivation, depression, nightmares, paranoia Summary and Schedule: Total sleep: somewhere between 6 and 9 hours Diet: bottled water, pot roast, mashed potatoes, salad, milk, chocolate, chocolate cupcakes, cheese crackers, peanut butter crackers, banana Exercise: none Quality of life: 3 out of 10 1:00 AM - 500 mg of Depakote Sprinkles (Day 33 of cutting to 500 mg), 3 mg Klonopin, 25 mg Anafranil 8:00 AM - attempt to sleep I've been on dozens of psychiatric medications starting with being forced to take Prozac back as a minor in the mid 1990s. All doctors would cold turkey me from medications. I did not learn about withdrawal until the mid 2000's by reading Dr. Breggin's books and finding sites similar to this one. I had one successful full cleansing from medication in 2007 and began to recover from some of the iatrogenic damages. I started to drink alcohol in 2008 to try and recover from PSSD and then about 6 months later, I lost my ability to sleep and was put into an inpatient psychiatric facility and redrugged. The only med combination that has allowed me to sleep was 1250 mg of Depakote ER and 3 mg Klonopin. However, my quality of life is terrible on these meds. I want to try to get off everything now once again. I have failed a couple of times trying to come off these meds recently but will try again once I can find a psychiatrist who understands withdrawal and can support me. UPDATE: I have not consumed any alcohol in over 10 years. May 2019 - I started to reduce Anafranil very slowly so I can see a PSSD specialist. I also plan on trying stem cell therapy to repair my iatrogenic brain damage. Current meds: 1125 mg Depakote Sprinkles, 3 mg Klonopin Current side effects: PSSD, insomnia, odd sleep schedule, anhedonia, lack of motivation, cognitive issues, memory loss, hair loss, weight gain, dry mouth Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Gridley Posted March 21, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 21, 2018 Keep in ind that chocolate contains caffeine and sugar, and so can be very activating. I love it but can't eat it. Gridley Introduction Lexapro 20 mg since 2004. Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017. End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg Oct. 30, 2020 Jump to zero from 0.025mg. Current dose: 0.000mg 3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete. Ativan 1 mg to 1.875mg 1986-2020, two CT's and reinstatements Nov. 2020, 7-week Ativan-Valium crossover to 18.75mg Valium Feb. 2021, begin 10%/4 week taper of 18.75mg Valium End 2021 year 1 of Valium taper at 6mg End 2022 year 2 of Valium taper at 2.75mg End 2023 year 3 of Valium taper at 1mg Jan. 24, 2024: Hold at 1mg and shift to Imipramine taper. Taper is 95% complete. Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986. Jan.-Sept. 2016 tapered to 14.4mg March 22, 2022: Begin 10%/4 week taper Aug. 5, 2022: hold at 9.5mg and shift to Valium taper Jan. 24, 2024: Resume Imipramine taper. Current dose as of April 1: 6.8mg Taper is 91% complete. Supplements: multiple, quercetin, omega-3, vitamins C, E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotics, zinc, melatonin .3mg, iron, serrapeptase, nattokinase I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs. Link to comment
Zant808 Posted March 21, 2018 Author Share Posted March 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Gridley said: Keep in ind that chocolate contains caffeine and sugar, and so can be very activating. I love it but can't eat it. I'll see what happens by cutting it out tonight but I always seem to have paradoxical reactions to these sorts of things. Chocolate usually relaxes me and puts me to sleep. Soda had the same effect but I haven't drank that in years because I know the reaction was caused by the carbonation interfering with the level of Depakote in my bloodstream. I've been on dozens of psychiatric medications starting with being forced to take Prozac back as a minor in the mid 1990s. All doctors would cold turkey me from medications. I did not learn about withdrawal until the mid 2000's by reading Dr. Breggin's books and finding sites similar to this one. I had one successful full cleansing from medication in 2007 and began to recover from some of the iatrogenic damages. I started to drink alcohol in 2008 to try and recover from PSSD and then about 6 months later, I lost my ability to sleep and was put into an inpatient psychiatric facility and redrugged. The only med combination that has allowed me to sleep was 1250 mg of Depakote ER and 3 mg Klonopin. However, my quality of life is terrible on these meds. I want to try to get off everything now once again. I have failed a couple of times trying to come off these meds recently but will try again once I can find a psychiatrist who understands withdrawal and can support me. UPDATE: I have not consumed any alcohol in over 10 years. May 2019 - I started to reduce Anafranil very slowly so I can see a PSSD specialist. I also plan on trying stem cell therapy to repair my iatrogenic brain damage. Current meds: 1125 mg Depakote Sprinkles, 3 mg Klonopin Current side effects: PSSD, insomnia, odd sleep schedule, anhedonia, lack of motivation, cognitive issues, memory loss, hair loss, weight gain, dry mouth Link to comment
Zant808 Posted March 22, 2018 Author Share Posted March 22, 2018 3/21/2018 - I'm seeing even more improvements with sleep but I'm still not seeing improvements with my bronchitis. There's no more antibiotics left. We got quite the snowstorm overnight and it's still snowing a bit, so I won't be able to make it out to see a doctor until Friday. My symptoms: PSSD, insomnia, anxiety, confusion, memory loss, no motivation, depression, nightmares, paranoia Summary and Schedule: Total sleep: somewhere between 7 and 10 hours Diet: bottled water, chicken wings, brown rice, corn, salad, cheese crackers, peanut butter crackers, apples, banana Exercise: none Quality of life: 3 out of 10 11:00 PM - 500 mg of Depakote Sprinkles (Day 34 of cutting to 500 mg), 3 mg Klonopin, 25 mg Anafranil 8:00 AM - attempt to sleep I've been on dozens of psychiatric medications starting with being forced to take Prozac back as a minor in the mid 1990s. All doctors would cold turkey me from medications. I did not learn about withdrawal until the mid 2000's by reading Dr. Breggin's books and finding sites similar to this one. I had one successful full cleansing from medication in 2007 and began to recover from some of the iatrogenic damages. I started to drink alcohol in 2008 to try and recover from PSSD and then about 6 months later, I lost my ability to sleep and was put into an inpatient psychiatric facility and redrugged. The only med combination that has allowed me to sleep was 1250 mg of Depakote ER and 3 mg Klonopin. However, my quality of life is terrible on these meds. I want to try to get off everything now once again. I have failed a couple of times trying to come off these meds recently but will try again once I can find a psychiatrist who understands withdrawal and can support me. UPDATE: I have not consumed any alcohol in over 10 years. May 2019 - I started to reduce Anafranil very slowly so I can see a PSSD specialist. I also plan on trying stem cell therapy to repair my iatrogenic brain damage. Current meds: 1125 mg Depakote Sprinkles, 3 mg Klonopin Current side effects: PSSD, insomnia, odd sleep schedule, anhedonia, lack of motivation, cognitive issues, memory loss, hair loss, weight gain, dry mouth Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted March 22, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 22, 2018 Are you aware of this? Interactions between your drugs Moderate clonazepam clomipramine Applies to: Klonopin (clonazepam), Anafranil (clomipramine) Using clomiPRAMINE together with clonazePAM may add to dizziness, drowsiness, breathing problems, and other side effects. This may be more likely to occur in older adults or those with a debilitating condition. Talk with your doctor before using clonazePAM together with clomiPRAMINE. It is important to tell your doctor about all other medications you use, including vitamins and herbs. Do not stop using any medications without first talking to your doctor. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Zant808 Posted March 22, 2018 Author Share Posted March 22, 2018 6 hours ago, ChessieCat said: Are you aware of this? Interactions between your drugs Moderate clonazepam clomipramine Applies to: Klonopin (clonazepam), Anafranil (clomipramine) Using clomiPRAMINE together with clonazePAM may add to dizziness, drowsiness, breathing problems, and other side effects. This may be more likely to occur in older adults or those with a debilitating condition. Talk with your doctor before using clonazePAM together with clomiPRAMINE. It is important to tell your doctor about all other medications you use, including vitamins and herbs. Do not stop using any medications without first talking to your doctor. Hey ChessieCat, Thanks for continuing to follow my progress here. I really appreciate it. When I used various drug interaction checkers, I saw a lot of these things. Every medication had some sort of negative interaction with something else. There's really not much I can do since my summer 2016 hospitalization which had me on Depakote, Klonopin, Zyprexa, Hydroxyzine and Trazodone. That 5 med combo still wasn't enough to get me to sleep and consider me safe to leave inpatient. My mom actually pulled some records out from previous hospitalizations many years ago and found out that 50 mg of Anafranil was super sedating for me. They tried 25 mg of Anafranil on me and that enabled me to finally sleep and get out of the hospital. So, unless something really severe happens where I have to cold turkey these meds due to serotonin syndrome, I'm probably stuck for about 3 years trying to withdraw from them and likely Anafranil will have to be the final medication to come off of because Klonopin withdrawal is by far the worst type of withdrawal I've had to deal with. So being on 3 meds or kinda like 2 and a half since the Depakote is falling below the therapeutic range now at only 500 mg, is a huge improvement of the 6 medication cocktail. I just cannot make the mistake I made that caused the last hospitalization which was thinking that being on 125 mg of Depakote Sprinkles and not having any Depakote being detected by blood work was a sign that I could just drop the 125 mg to nothing to rush the process. I've been on dozens of psychiatric medications starting with being forced to take Prozac back as a minor in the mid 1990s. All doctors would cold turkey me from medications. I did not learn about withdrawal until the mid 2000's by reading Dr. Breggin's books and finding sites similar to this one. I had one successful full cleansing from medication in 2007 and began to recover from some of the iatrogenic damages. I started to drink alcohol in 2008 to try and recover from PSSD and then about 6 months later, I lost my ability to sleep and was put into an inpatient psychiatric facility and redrugged. The only med combination that has allowed me to sleep was 1250 mg of Depakote ER and 3 mg Klonopin. However, my quality of life is terrible on these meds. I want to try to get off everything now once again. I have failed a couple of times trying to come off these meds recently but will try again once I can find a psychiatrist who understands withdrawal and can support me. UPDATE: I have not consumed any alcohol in over 10 years. May 2019 - I started to reduce Anafranil very slowly so I can see a PSSD specialist. I also plan on trying stem cell therapy to repair my iatrogenic brain damage. Current meds: 1125 mg Depakote Sprinkles, 3 mg Klonopin Current side effects: PSSD, insomnia, odd sleep schedule, anhedonia, lack of motivation, cognitive issues, memory loss, hair loss, weight gain, dry mouth Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted March 22, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 22, 2018 I can understand the predicament you are in. The reason I pasted the interaction was because of the possibility of breathing difficulties. I am concerned that the doctor might keep throwing antibiotics at you when you don't actually need them. * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Zant808 Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 3/22/2018 - I'm still sleeping well and even able to nap. I want to get rid of this bronchitis so bad but it's still not happening. I guess it's off to an urgent care office after I get up much later today. My symptoms: PSSD, insomnia, anxiety, confusion, memory loss, no motivation, depression, nightmares, paranoia Summary and Schedule: Total sleep: somewhere between 7 and 10 hours Diet: bottled water, pot roast, carrots, potatoes, salad, chocolate cupcakes, cheese crackers, peanut butter crackers, apples, banana Exercise: none Quality of life: 3 out of 10 2:30 AM - 500 mg of Depakote Sprinkles (Day 35 of cutting to 500 mg), 3 mg Klonopin, 25 mg Anafranil 8:00 AM - attempt to sleep I've been on dozens of psychiatric medications starting with being forced to take Prozac back as a minor in the mid 1990s. All doctors would cold turkey me from medications. I did not learn about withdrawal until the mid 2000's by reading Dr. Breggin's books and finding sites similar to this one. I had one successful full cleansing from medication in 2007 and began to recover from some of the iatrogenic damages. I started to drink alcohol in 2008 to try and recover from PSSD and then about 6 months later, I lost my ability to sleep and was put into an inpatient psychiatric facility and redrugged. The only med combination that has allowed me to sleep was 1250 mg of Depakote ER and 3 mg Klonopin. However, my quality of life is terrible on these meds. I want to try to get off everything now once again. I have failed a couple of times trying to come off these meds recently but will try again once I can find a psychiatrist who understands withdrawal and can support me. UPDATE: I have not consumed any alcohol in over 10 years. May 2019 - I started to reduce Anafranil very slowly so I can see a PSSD specialist. I also plan on trying stem cell therapy to repair my iatrogenic brain damage. Current meds: 1125 mg Depakote Sprinkles, 3 mg Klonopin Current side effects: PSSD, insomnia, odd sleep schedule, anhedonia, lack of motivation, cognitive issues, memory loss, hair loss, weight gain, dry mouth Link to comment
Zant808 Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 10 hours ago, ChessieCat said: I can understand the predicament you are in. The reason I pasted the interaction was because of the possibility of breathing difficulties. I am concerned that the doctor might keep throwing antibiotics at you when you don't actually need them. I'm coughing the same amount as I was over a week ago even as I'm typing this reply to you. The snow has cleared out and since it's Friday I'm going to have to head over to either my primary care physician or to an urgent care office and see what they think. I should definitely get a chest x-ray this time around instead of what I think was subjective guesswork when I got the bronchitis diagnosis. If this isn't able to be fought by antibiotics, I have a tough time believing my own immune system can fight it since I know that Depakote weakens the immune system quite a lot. I've been on dozens of psychiatric medications starting with being forced to take Prozac back as a minor in the mid 1990s. All doctors would cold turkey me from medications. I did not learn about withdrawal until the mid 2000's by reading Dr. Breggin's books and finding sites similar to this one. I had one successful full cleansing from medication in 2007 and began to recover from some of the iatrogenic damages. I started to drink alcohol in 2008 to try and recover from PSSD and then about 6 months later, I lost my ability to sleep and was put into an inpatient psychiatric facility and redrugged. The only med combination that has allowed me to sleep was 1250 mg of Depakote ER and 3 mg Klonopin. However, my quality of life is terrible on these meds. I want to try to get off everything now once again. I have failed a couple of times trying to come off these meds recently but will try again once I can find a psychiatrist who understands withdrawal and can support me. UPDATE: I have not consumed any alcohol in over 10 years. May 2019 - I started to reduce Anafranil very slowly so I can see a PSSD specialist. I also plan on trying stem cell therapy to repair my iatrogenic brain damage. Current meds: 1125 mg Depakote Sprinkles, 3 mg Klonopin Current side effects: PSSD, insomnia, odd sleep schedule, anhedonia, lack of motivation, cognitive issues, memory loss, hair loss, weight gain, dry mouth Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Songbird Posted March 23, 2018 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted March 23, 2018 Have you tried steam inhalation for your bronchitis? You can also add a drop or two of eucalyptus or pine oil (or Olbas oil). I haven't had bronchitis for many years, but when I did I found these inhalations very helpful. Also, are you taking any Vitamin C? I take large doses whenever I get any kind of respiratory infection and found it very helpful. Oregano oil and N-acetyl-cysteine are also said to be good for bronchitis, although I have not tried those myself. 2001–2002 paroxetine 2003 citalopram 2004-2008 paroxetine (various failed tapers) 2008 paroxetine slow taper down to 2016 Aug off paroxetine2016 citalopram May 20mg Oct 15mg … slow taper down2018 citalopram 13 Feb 4.6mg 15 Mar 4.4mg 29 Apr 4.2mg 6 Jul 4.1mg 17 Aug 4.0mg 18 Nov 3.8mg 2019 15 Mar 3.6mg 21 May 3.4mg 26 Dec 3.2mg 2020 19 Feb 3.0mg 19 Jul 2.9mg 16 Sep 2.8mg 25 Oct 2.7mg 23 Oct 2.6mg 24 Dec 2.5mg 2021 29 Aug 2.4mg 15 Nov 2.3mg Link to comment
Zant808 Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 3/23/2018 - My sleep has returned to normal and my bronchitis seems to have gone away without going back to the doctor. I'll see how I am doing in about a week and make a decision as to if I should start going down more on Depakote Sprinkles. I might have to really baby step things at this point, going from 500 mg to only 475 mg and holding. My symptoms: PSSD, insomnia, anxiety, confusion, memory loss, no motivation, depression, nightmares, paranoia Summary and Schedule: Total sleep: somewhere between 7 and 10 hours Diet: bottled water, pizza, strawberry lemonade, chocolate cake, donut, peanut butter crackers, banana Exercise: none Quality of life: 4 out of 10 11:45 PM - 500 mg of Depakote Sprinkles (Day 36 of cutting to 500 mg), 3 mg Klonopin, 25 mg Anafranil 8:00 AM - attempt to sleep I've been on dozens of psychiatric medications starting with being forced to take Prozac back as a minor in the mid 1990s. All doctors would cold turkey me from medications. I did not learn about withdrawal until the mid 2000's by reading Dr. Breggin's books and finding sites similar to this one. I had one successful full cleansing from medication in 2007 and began to recover from some of the iatrogenic damages. I started to drink alcohol in 2008 to try and recover from PSSD and then about 6 months later, I lost my ability to sleep and was put into an inpatient psychiatric facility and redrugged. The only med combination that has allowed me to sleep was 1250 mg of Depakote ER and 3 mg Klonopin. However, my quality of life is terrible on these meds. I want to try to get off everything now once again. I have failed a couple of times trying to come off these meds recently but will try again once I can find a psychiatrist who understands withdrawal and can support me. UPDATE: I have not consumed any alcohol in over 10 years. May 2019 - I started to reduce Anafranil very slowly so I can see a PSSD specialist. I also plan on trying stem cell therapy to repair my iatrogenic brain damage. Current meds: 1125 mg Depakote Sprinkles, 3 mg Klonopin Current side effects: PSSD, insomnia, odd sleep schedule, anhedonia, lack of motivation, cognitive issues, memory loss, hair loss, weight gain, dry mouth Link to comment
Zant808 Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 20 hours ago, Songbird said: Have you tried steam inhalation for your bronchitis? You can also add a drop or two of eucalyptus or pine oil (or Olbas oil). I haven't had bronchitis for many years, but when I did I found these inhalations very helpful. Also, are you taking any Vitamin C? I take large doses whenever I get any kind of respiratory infection and found it very helpful. Oregano oil and N-acetyl-cysteine are also said to be good for bronchitis, although I have not tried those myself. Hey Songbird, I haven't tried any steam inhalation. I have just taken the Zithromax antibiotic and have waited things out. I have a lot of a powder Vitamin C supplement that I used to use, but lately I haven't used it since the cough drops are supposed to have a lot of vitamin C in them. I think that waiting things out has worked alright as my coughing has become minimal without going back to the doctor. I've been on dozens of psychiatric medications starting with being forced to take Prozac back as a minor in the mid 1990s. All doctors would cold turkey me from medications. I did not learn about withdrawal until the mid 2000's by reading Dr. Breggin's books and finding sites similar to this one. I had one successful full cleansing from medication in 2007 and began to recover from some of the iatrogenic damages. I started to drink alcohol in 2008 to try and recover from PSSD and then about 6 months later, I lost my ability to sleep and was put into an inpatient psychiatric facility and redrugged. The only med combination that has allowed me to sleep was 1250 mg of Depakote ER and 3 mg Klonopin. However, my quality of life is terrible on these meds. I want to try to get off everything now once again. I have failed a couple of times trying to come off these meds recently but will try again once I can find a psychiatrist who understands withdrawal and can support me. UPDATE: I have not consumed any alcohol in over 10 years. May 2019 - I started to reduce Anafranil very slowly so I can see a PSSD specialist. I also plan on trying stem cell therapy to repair my iatrogenic brain damage. Current meds: 1125 mg Depakote Sprinkles, 3 mg Klonopin Current side effects: PSSD, insomnia, odd sleep schedule, anhedonia, lack of motivation, cognitive issues, memory loss, hair loss, weight gain, dry mouth Link to comment
Zant808 Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 Psychiatric Medication History Since Mid 1990's To Present Here are the psychiatric medications that I remember and/or have official medical records that I've taken since the mid 1990's either by force or coercion starting as a minor. The list is in somewhat of a chronological order. Many times I took these in combination with other psychiatric medications starting with the Depakote / Zyprexa combination. I believe the most medications I've ever been on at the same time was 6. 1) Prozac 2) Buspar 3) Effexor 4) Serzone 5) Celexa 6) Luvox 7) Remeron 8) Wellbutrin 9) Depakote 10) Zyprexa 11) Risperdal 12) Trazodone 13) Ativan 14) Klonopin 15) Neurontin 16) Rozerem 17) Lexapro 18) Lunesta 19) Sonata 20) Ambien 21) Lamictal 22) Lithium 23) Valium 24) Synthroid 25) Seroquel 26) Abilify 27) Geodon 28) Haldol 29) Cogentin 30) Restoril 31) Topamax 32) Tegretol 33) Trileptal 34) Ambien CR 35) Depakote ER 36) Doxepin 37) Vistaril 38) Depakote Sprinkles 39) Anafranil 40) Xanax I've been on dozens of psychiatric medications starting with being forced to take Prozac back as a minor in the mid 1990s. All doctors would cold turkey me from medications. I did not learn about withdrawal until the mid 2000's by reading Dr. Breggin's books and finding sites similar to this one. I had one successful full cleansing from medication in 2007 and began to recover from some of the iatrogenic damages. I started to drink alcohol in 2008 to try and recover from PSSD and then about 6 months later, I lost my ability to sleep and was put into an inpatient psychiatric facility and redrugged. The only med combination that has allowed me to sleep was 1250 mg of Depakote ER and 3 mg Klonopin. However, my quality of life is terrible on these meds. I want to try to get off everything now once again. I have failed a couple of times trying to come off these meds recently but will try again once I can find a psychiatrist who understands withdrawal and can support me. UPDATE: I have not consumed any alcohol in over 10 years. May 2019 - I started to reduce Anafranil very slowly so I can see a PSSD specialist. I also plan on trying stem cell therapy to repair my iatrogenic brain damage. Current meds: 1125 mg Depakote Sprinkles, 3 mg Klonopin Current side effects: PSSD, insomnia, odd sleep schedule, anhedonia, lack of motivation, cognitive issues, memory loss, hair loss, weight gain, dry mouth Link to comment
Zant808 Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 3/24/2018 - I'm definitely sleeping a lot but it seems like the bronchitis systems really didn't go away. It's the weekend so I'll have to wait until tomorrow and see if I should go to a doctor again and see if this is getting any better. My symptoms: PSSD, insomnia, anxiety, confusion, memory loss, no motivation, depression, nightmares, paranoia Summary and Schedule: Total sleep: somewhere between 7 and 10 hours Diet: bottled water, pot roast, salad, chocolate cake, donut, cheese crackers, peanut butter crackers Exercise: none Quality of life: 4 out of 10 11:45 PM - 500 mg of Depakote Sprinkles (Day 37 of cutting to 500 mg), 3 mg Klonopin, 25 mg Anafranil 8:00 AM - attempt to sleep I've been on dozens of psychiatric medications starting with being forced to take Prozac back as a minor in the mid 1990s. All doctors would cold turkey me from medications. I did not learn about withdrawal until the mid 2000's by reading Dr. Breggin's books and finding sites similar to this one. I had one successful full cleansing from medication in 2007 and began to recover from some of the iatrogenic damages. I started to drink alcohol in 2008 to try and recover from PSSD and then about 6 months later, I lost my ability to sleep and was put into an inpatient psychiatric facility and redrugged. The only med combination that has allowed me to sleep was 1250 mg of Depakote ER and 3 mg Klonopin. However, my quality of life is terrible on these meds. I want to try to get off everything now once again. I have failed a couple of times trying to come off these meds recently but will try again once I can find a psychiatrist who understands withdrawal and can support me. UPDATE: I have not consumed any alcohol in over 10 years. May 2019 - I started to reduce Anafranil very slowly so I can see a PSSD specialist. I also plan on trying stem cell therapy to repair my iatrogenic brain damage. Current meds: 1125 mg Depakote Sprinkles, 3 mg Klonopin Current side effects: PSSD, insomnia, odd sleep schedule, anhedonia, lack of motivation, cognitive issues, memory loss, hair loss, weight gain, dry mouth Link to comment
Zant808 Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 3/25/2018 - My sleep is pretty stable at this point. The bronchitis is almost all gone. I'll be reducing my Depakote Sprinkles from 500 mg to either 475 mg or 450 mg starting next week. My symptoms: PSSD, insomnia, anxiety, confusion, memory loss, no motivation, depression, nightmares, paranoia Summary and Schedule: Total sleep: somewhere between 7 and 10 hours Diet: bottled water, orange chicken, jasmine rice, salad, chocolate cake, donut, cheese crackers, peanut butter crackers Exercise: none Quality of life: 4 out of 10 1:00 AM - 500 mg of Depakote Sprinkles (Day 38 of cutting to 500 mg), 3 mg Klonopin, 25 mg Anafranil 8:00 AM - attempt to sleep I've been on dozens of psychiatric medications starting with being forced to take Prozac back as a minor in the mid 1990s. All doctors would cold turkey me from medications. I did not learn about withdrawal until the mid 2000's by reading Dr. Breggin's books and finding sites similar to this one. I had one successful full cleansing from medication in 2007 and began to recover from some of the iatrogenic damages. I started to drink alcohol in 2008 to try and recover from PSSD and then about 6 months later, I lost my ability to sleep and was put into an inpatient psychiatric facility and redrugged. The only med combination that has allowed me to sleep was 1250 mg of Depakote ER and 3 mg Klonopin. However, my quality of life is terrible on these meds. I want to try to get off everything now once again. I have failed a couple of times trying to come off these meds recently but will try again once I can find a psychiatrist who understands withdrawal and can support me. UPDATE: I have not consumed any alcohol in over 10 years. May 2019 - I started to reduce Anafranil very slowly so I can see a PSSD specialist. I also plan on trying stem cell therapy to repair my iatrogenic brain damage. Current meds: 1125 mg Depakote Sprinkles, 3 mg Klonopin Current side effects: PSSD, insomnia, odd sleep schedule, anhedonia, lack of motivation, cognitive issues, memory loss, hair loss, weight gain, dry mouth Link to comment
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