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thankyou Tattyapple :) 

a lot of what's written there makes so much sense. 

i;m not sure whether to keep slowly upping the dose of the prozac or go all-in and take the full 20mg capsule. i feel like i'm just tinkering round the edges at the moment and am ending up feeling worse for it. i've been on 5 weeks now and thought i would have had some small bit of relief but nothing yet. i've had a couple of days when i had some calm but that is how my windows were before christmas so i'm maybe they've come back with the longer daylight hours. who knows? 

i wish i could find more anecdotal evidence from people who have reinstated at full dose. 

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Tattyapple

I Know what you mean for people with high anxiety like us tiny doses just prolong the fear because you are constantly on tender hooks waiting for something bad. However I totally understand why tiny doses are suggested because our nervous systems are so sensitive so it’s a tough call. 

 

You could always jump to 5 and see if you tolerate that ?

 

i don’t think you had akathesia on withdrawal so I think you have a good chance of success. 

 

I would give anything to go back 5 years and reinstate, I had a decent opportunity to do it and being the stubborn silly b**** I am I who toughens everything out, I didn’t do it. 

 

Good luck I’m rooting for you 

 

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keepinghope

I found this from someone who was tapering liquid Prozac and then went back on a full dose of sertraline (50mg).

I think a lot of people end up reinstating but maybe are too embarrassed/ashamed that they’ve gone back to the meds, so they don’t post here again. Which reminds me, I need to update my thread to say that I’ve reinstated. At nearly 3 years out, I’m not sure if I’m one of the ‘furthest out’ to have gone back on the ADs? My sister also went back on 20mg Prozac after being off it for I believe about 2 years. She’s still on it now and, same as me, suffers awful withdrawal symptoms when she tries to come off it. Although neither of us have ever tried the very long, slow taper advocated here. I wish I had, and not gone with my GPs crackpot 6 week taper! Might be a different story now. 

Edited to add - I did have Akathisia on withdrawal, pretty severely at around 6 months off, which slowly improved as time went on. 

 

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thecowisback

wow- that is quite a tale!!! all those years tapering and then she ended up back on meds!!

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powerback
17 minutes ago, thecowisback said:

wow- that is quite a tale!!! all those years tapering and then she ended up back on meds!!

Hi the TCIB ,this journey we take  isn't simple ,there are many variables to each case ,to find your own solution you need to keep reading as much as you can .I'm years listening to different opinions  on youtube and other places .if meds work for people then that's there business ,no one has the write to judge anyone .the future is informed consent .

you have all the info you need I don't think its as simple as the correct or wrong decision.

Theres one person on youtube that says meds help him be happy ,that's hes choice .my own opinion is that life is more than just been happy .

everyone is different ,ide love a mod to give you advice on upping your dose or not ,you seem desperate .we need to look at everything.im years studying nutrition/health  and phycology and introspection ,this has helped me in the decision to try life without meds or crutch's [I had many crutch's ,mainly alcohol ]   .I have the right to try and if it doesn't work well so be it ,we keep tyring and on to what ever else .

 

I understand your reading this material to give yourself the information but if its highly triggering ide be careful.somewere we need to put space in our mind from this withdrawl demon .

total respect.

Take care.

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thecowisback

i guess i don't trust my own judgement on what to do so keep looking for other people's experiences. 

 

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powerback
Just now, thecowisback said:

i guess i don't trust my own judgement on what to do so keep looking for other people's experiences. 

 

ye its hard isn't it ,I feel for you .I myself am still full of symptoms but one day I'm bad and the next I'm not the worst lately

,I cant even put it down to meds or not but that's all we have ,log our symptom's and go up or down

 

.the last 4 months I've rested the most in the last 3 years because im forced to ,there could be a link to over doing it ,my ego was pushing me to do things when I should of rested ,I didn't rest until my body gave up .harsh but cautionary tale .

A mod needs to look at your case because I cant tell you to updose ,but I can see this were your thinking .

 

the last few days a couple of times I was able to knock back the intrusive thoughts and critic a bit better than usual ,witch makes me think going down on dose has worked in MY OWN CASE  ,im a little less irritable also ,all to watch very closely.

 

I hope you find  relief TCIB 

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thecowisback

thankyou. i'm  really not sure what to do. prozac takes so long to kick in anyway so i've no idea if i need to give the dose i'm on now a bit longer. 

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powerback
1 minute ago, thecowisback said:

thankyou. i'm  really not sure what to do. prozac takes so long to kick in anyway so i've no idea if i need to give the dose i'm on now a bit longer. 

its time to call out a mod by name to get attention I think .

Take care TCIB ,I'm off to distraction land.

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Altostrata
11 hours ago, thecowisback said:

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i've upped to 2.5 mg today. not sure if i'm doing the right thing upping again. if there are any mods around maybe one can advise. 

i'm feeling very lost right now. yesterday was another day filled with tears and panic and i feel like i'm not living any more, merely existing day to day. 

i've missed out on the past 2 years thanks to withdrawals and i'm sick to death of this whole thing. weekends are always worse for me for some reason and i'm thoroughly despondent this morning at starting yet another saturday terrified of everything, as each week i keep telling myself it will get better, then another saturday comes and reminds me i'm not actually getting better at all - at best i'm just the same as 2 years ago and on bad days i'm actually feeling a lot worse.

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Did you feel any different after taking 2.5mg Prozac? It will take at least a week for you to feel the full effect of the increase. Please keep daily notes about your drugs and symptoms and let us know how you're doing.

 

Every time these thoughts come up, you need to forgive yourself for all your mistakes and regrets. You are making your condition worse by diving into bad thoughts about yourself. Read these topics again:

 

Neuro-emotions

 

Non-drug techniques to cope with emotional symptoms

 

Deep emotional pain and crying spells, spontaneous weeping

 

Health anxiety, hypochondria, and obsession with symptoms

 

Shame, guilt, regret, and self-criticism

 

Dealing With Emotional Spirals


Easing your way into meditation for a stressed-out nervous system

 

Self-care is not easy, it's work, you need to apply yourself to it.

 

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my family are asking why i'm not taking my full dose of prozac. they don't see how such a small dose can help and on days like this i wonder the same thing, but i'm trusting the advice on here as there is nowhere else to turn. 

 

Perhaps it's time to tell your family that while you're feeling poorly, you will make your own decisions. Stop asking them to fix you, taking more Prozac is their best idea.

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thecowisback

thankyou for the reply :) i didn't feel any different after the higher dose today, just the usual mix of anxiety and depression. 

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thecowisback

16/02  15/02 corrected per this post

7 am had breakfast. took 2mg prozac. couldn't finish breakfast. anxiety high. 

had trouble getting the kids to school which made me more anxious. 

12 pm had lunch. still not very hungry. went to run some errands. very anxious. blurry vision. couldn't wait to get back home. 

3.30 picked up kids. was supposed to pick up something on the way home but forgot completely. very anxious. couldn't face going for my daily walk today despite the weather being good. 

5.00 cooked dinner. undercooked today instead of burnt! 

6.45 got a big headache. drunk lots of water in case i was dehydrated. tried to watch tv with the kids but couldn't concentrate. 

9.00 tried to watch a film but something in it triggered me and couldn't stop crying. 

 

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Altostrata

Those notes show 2mg Prozac. How much did you take?

 

It's very important that when you change dosage, you have to be consistent in dosing, and you need to keep daily notes to see what it does. You may not feel any difference from an increase in Prozac for several days to a week.

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thecowisback

whoops- the date should show 15th- these are the notes for yesterday.

 

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thecowisback

16/02

got up at 7. took amlodipine 5mg, prozac 2.5 mg had breakfast. 

cleaned the house. feeling very scared and anxious. lots of intrusive thoughts. 

didn't feel like eating lunch. had some soup at 2pm. still very anxious and scared.

3.30 started to feel extremely down. couldn't stop crying for ages. feeling very depressed. 

6pm ordered takeaway. feeling a little better. 

7pm watched films with kids. feeling much calmer. trying to dismiss intrusive thoughts. 

12.30 am took levothyroxine 75mg. went to bed. took ages to get to sleep and kept waking in the night. feeling very overheated. 

 

one thing i noticed today is the skin on my inner thigh has been itching like crazy. it used to do this in the last year or so of me taking prozac but i can't remember when it stopped.  not sure if this is related to upping the dose to 2.5 mg or just a coincidence. 

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JackieDecides
20 hours ago, Altostrata said:

You may not feel any difference from an increase in Prozac for several days to a week.

 

it's got to be hard to keep this in mind, @thecowisback....that's kind of awkward, can I call you The Cow for short? 😉

 

seriously, I know you are having a hard time and I just want to say I read your posts and feel for you.

 

On 2/16/2019 at 5:36 AM, thecowisback said:

i guess i don't trust my own judgement on what to do so keep looking for other people's experiences. 

 

 

 

I totally understand this. 

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thecowisback

yep, cow is fine 😁

i'll stick to the 2.5 for a week and see what happens. today has been unrelenting depression and derealisation.

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