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Hi did any of you that successfully tappered off the antideppressant think of taking herbal remedies like kava kava or St Johns wort or passionflower or ashwaganda??to help with withdrawls.I am tappering very slowly off my meds this time.I want to take herbs to help me for withdrawls and anxiety and moodiness and irritability.

2008-2018 20mg celexa

2018 April  tapered 15ml, April 15 10mg,May 1st 5 mg, May 15 0mg

2018 July1st 10mg -July 15 20mg

Sept 2018 celexa 10mg Sept 15 20mg

Sept 2018 -tapered -15 Oct 2018 tapered 10mg

Nov 2018 tapered 05 mg-Dec 2018 tapered 0mg

Mar 3 -2019 ativan 1mg .March 18-2019 stopped ativan

March 06 2019 celexa 10mg March 20-2019 celexa 20mg

April-2019 15mg

May 2019 10mg

 

 

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Hi Adriane and welcome to SA,

 

SA recommends tapering by no more than 10% of the current dose followed by a hold of about 4 weeks to allow the brain to adapt to not getting as much of the drug. 

 

Why taper by 10% of my dosage?

Dr Joseph Glenmullen's Withdrawal Symptoms

 

Post #1 of this topic has links to various drug topics and how to get the dose you need:

 

important-topics-in-the-tapering-forum-and-faq

 

are-we-there-yet-how-long-is-withdrawal-going-to-take

 

 

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This is your own introductions topic where your can ask questions about your own situation and journal your progress.

 

 

The only supplements which SA recommends are  Magnesium and Omega-3 Fish Oil.  Some SA members, myself included, find that magnesium helps to take the edge of their anxiety.  When introducing something new try a small amount, one at a time, to see how you respond to it.  Also only ever make one change at a time, ie don't make a reduction at the same time as trying a new supplement.  Keep it Simple, Slow and Stable

 

Some supplements should not be taken when taking an antidepressant, especially St John's Wort.

 

From:  st-johns-wort-hypericum-perforatum

 

On 6/24/2011 at 3:09 AM, Punarbhava said:

Taking Saint John's Wort with MAOI's, SSRI's, or other antidepressants can lead to a drastic overproduction of the neurotransmitter serotonin, which may be a life-threatening reaction. Serotonin syndrome, as it is known, can also be caused when Saint John's Wort is taken in conjunction with other natural serotonin-increasing supplements, such as tryptophan, kanna and 5-HTP.

 

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Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering Oct 2015  Current from 14 Nov 2020:  Pristiq 0.50 mg

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Thank you for that information.How would i taper 10 % when the antidepressant only comes in 20, 10 mg.I have a pill cutter and can cut pills in half and in quarters,is there a way i can reduce 10% that im not aware of?

2008-2018 20mg celexa

2018 April  tapered 15ml, April 15 10mg,May 1st 5 mg, May 15 0mg

2018 July1st 10mg -July 15 20mg

Sept 2018 celexa 10mg Sept 15 20mg

Sept 2018 -tapered -15 Oct 2018 tapered 10mg

Nov 2018 tapered 05 mg-Dec 2018 tapered 0mg

Mar 3 -2019 ativan 1mg .March 18-2019 stopped ativan

March 06 2019 celexa 10mg March 20-2019 celexa 20mg

April-2019 15mg

May 2019 10mg

 

 

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There are many methods.  Some people are able to get a prescription for a liquid, others make their own liquids.   Some people cut pills or crush them into powder and use a digital scale to weigh doses.  Some people use compounding pharmacies to make up capsules or liquids.  There are pros and cons to each method.  See:

 

How to make a liquid from tablets or capsules

Using a digital scale to measure doses

How to calculate dosages and dilutions? Spreadsheets and calculators

 

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2001–2002 paroxetine

2003  citalopram

2004-2008  paroxetine (various failed tapers) 
2008  paroxetine slow taper down to

2016  Aug off paroxetine
2016  citalopram May 20mg  Oct 15mg … slow taper down
2018  citalopram 13 Feb 4.6mg 15 Mar 4.4mg 29 Apr 4.2mg 6 Jul 4.1mg 17 Aug 4.0mg  18 Nov 3.8mg
2019  15 Mar 3.6mg  21 May 3.4mg  26 Dec 3.2mg 

2020  19 Feb 3.0mg 19 July 2.9mg  16 Sep 2.8mg  25 Oct 2.7mg

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I am frustrated because i dont know how to do this.I put down my history but dont know how to save it or start a topic.

Adriane

2008-2018 20mg celexa

2018 April  tapered 15ml, April 15 10mg,May 1st 5 mg, May 15 0mg

2018 July1st 10mg -July 15 20mg

Sept 2018 celexa 10mg Sept 15 20mg

Sept 2018 -tapered -15 Oct 2018 tapered 10mg

Nov 2018 tapered 05 mg-Dec 2018 tapered 0mg

Mar 3 -2019 ativan 1mg .March 18-2019 stopped ativan

March 06 2019 celexa 10mg March 20-2019 celexa 20mg

April-2019 15mg

May 2019 10mg

 

 

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46 minutes ago, Adriane said:

am frustrated because i dont know how to do this.I put down my history but dont know how to save it or start a topic.

Adriane

 

Your drug history is posted and visible but not from a phone.   As far as starting a topic, just post right here.  This is the place where you should post questions and updates as well as connect with other members.

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Lorazepam 1 mg 1986-1991 CT, soon reinstated.  CT 2000. RI 1 mg 2011-2016.  Sept. 2016  0.625mg X 3

Nov.27, 2020 Begin 6-week Ativan-Valium crossover.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan. 2016 began every 3-weeks 10% taper, down to 15mg.  Aug 2016, discovered SA, updosed to 25mg and holding.  Taper is 66% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega, vitamins E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, melatonin .3mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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ok so i am going to start taper ing 10% and hold for  6 weeks and see how it goes.I found a componding pharmacy.I am taking supplements like fish oil,magnesium,iron,complex B vitamins,vit c,and Zinc.I am trying to cut back on carbs and sugar and dairy as well.i seem to have digestion problems.

2008-2018 20mg celexa

2018 April  tapered 15ml, April 15 10mg,May 1st 5 mg, May 15 0mg

2018 July1st 10mg -July 15 20mg

Sept 2018 celexa 10mg Sept 15 20mg

Sept 2018 -tapered -15 Oct 2018 tapered 10mg

Nov 2018 tapered 05 mg-Dec 2018 tapered 0mg

Mar 3 -2019 ativan 1mg .March 18-2019 stopped ativan

March 06 2019 celexa 10mg March 20-2019 celexa 20mg

April-2019 15mg

May 2019 10mg

 

 

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39 minutes ago, Adriane said:

complex B vitamins

 

Some members find that B vitamins can be stimulating, especially B6.

 

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ADs since ~1992:  25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after)

Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering Oct 2015  Current from 14 Nov 2020:  Pristiq 0.50 mg

My tapering program                                      My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.

 

REMINDER TO SELF:  I don't need the drug now, but my still brain does.

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Hi I am on 10 mg and plan to taper down to 9  mg next week.I think i have gut issues ,and gut and brain are linked.I was thinking of doing a liver cleanse to start, anyone else do any cleanses while tapering?

2008-2018 20mg celexa

2018 April  tapered 15ml, April 15 10mg,May 1st 5 mg, May 15 0mg

2018 July1st 10mg -July 15 20mg

Sept 2018 celexa 10mg Sept 15 20mg

Sept 2018 -tapered -15 Oct 2018 tapered 10mg

Nov 2018 tapered 05 mg-Dec 2018 tapered 0mg

Mar 3 -2019 ativan 1mg .March 18-2019 stopped ativan

March 06 2019 celexa 10mg March 20-2019 celexa 20mg

April-2019 15mg

May 2019 10mg

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Adriane said:

liver cleanse to start, anyone else do any cleanses while tapering?

SA doesn't recommend detoxing while tapering.  Our systems are very sensitive during tapering and withdrawal, and detoxing places further stress on an already challenged system.

 

As Altostrata, founder of the site, said,

 

"Hmmm, I feel I must point out here that withdrawal symptoms are not due to toxicity, but to the ABSENCE of a drug upon which the body has become dependent. The liver has done its job properly and caused what it can to be excreted.

 

Given that we urge gradual tapering, anything of the drug remaining in fat or tissues could be considered to cushion, however minimally, the lack of the drug the body is craving. If you are in the middle of tapering, which means you're deliberately slowing the passage of the drug from your body, why would you want to speed the drug out of your system with liver detoxification (assuming that would work)?

 

My belief is that, our bodies and nervous systems being under so much stress from withdrawal, detoxing the liver or any other ritual of purification only adds further stress and doesn't do anything positive for proper withdrawal. (Liver detox was developed for serious, identifiable heavy metal poisoning.) Liver cleansing is one of those things naturopathic medicine routinely recommends for all kinds of ills, with very little evidence it helps any of them. I do not think it's appropriate for withdrawal syndrome."

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Lorazepam 1 mg 1986-1991 CT, soon reinstated.  CT 2000. RI 1 mg 2011-2016.  Sept. 2016  0.625mg X 3

Nov.27, 2020 Begin 6-week Ativan-Valium crossover.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan. 2016 began every 3-weeks 10% taper, down to 15mg.  Aug 2016, discovered SA, updosed to 25mg and holding.  Taper is 66% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega, vitamins E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, melatonin .3mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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Makes sense ,but i am not doing liver cleanse to rid body of SSRI,i would be doing it in preparation for a candida cleanse.

2008-2018 20mg celexa

2018 April  tapered 15ml, April 15 10mg,May 1st 5 mg, May 15 0mg

2018 July1st 10mg -July 15 20mg

Sept 2018 celexa 10mg Sept 15 20mg

Sept 2018 -tapered -15 Oct 2018 tapered 10mg

Nov 2018 tapered 05 mg-Dec 2018 tapered 0mg

Mar 3 -2019 ativan 1mg .March 18-2019 stopped ativan

March 06 2019 celexa 10mg March 20-2019 celexa 20mg

April-2019 15mg

May 2019 10mg

 

 

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25 minutes ago, Adriane said:

i am not doing liver cleanse to rid body of SSRI,

 

It's your decision whether or not to do the liver cleanse.  We don't recommend liver cleanses, whatever the purpose, during tapering and withdrawal because of the extra stress it puts on an already-stressed system.

Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Begin Brassmonkey Slide Taper Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Oct. 30, 2020  Jump to zero from 0.025mg.  Current dose: 0.000mg

3 year, 10 month taper is 100% complete.

 

Lorazepam 1 mg 1986-1991 CT, soon reinstated.  CT 2000. RI 1 mg 2011-2016.  Sept. 2016  0.625mg X 3

Nov.27, 2020 Begin 6-week Ativan-Valium crossover.

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan. 2016 began every 3-weeks 10% taper, down to 15mg.  Aug 2016, discovered SA, updosed to 25mg and holding.  Taper is 66% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega, vitamins E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, melatonin .3mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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1 hour ago, Adriane said:

I am on 10 mg and plan to taper down to 9  mg next week.

 

1 hour ago, Adriane said:

i would be doing it in preparation for a candida cleanse

 

48 minutes ago, Gridley said:

We don't recommend liver cleanses, whatever the purpose, during tapering and withdrawal because of the extra stress it puts on an already-stressed system.

 

If you are going to do the liver cleanse it would be better not to make another reduction until at least a few weeks after the cleanse.

 

Keep it Simple, Slow and Stable

 

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ADs since ~1992:  25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after)

Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering Oct 2015  Current from 14 Nov 2020:  Pristiq 0.50 mg

My tapering program                                      My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.

 

REMINDER TO SELF:  I don't need the drug now, but my still brain does.

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2 hours ago, Gridley said:

 

It's your decision whether or not to do the liver cleanse.  We don't recommend liver cleanses, whatever the purpose, during tapering and withdrawal because of the extra stress it puts on an already-stressed system.

ok i wont do a liver cleanse at this time.I dont want to do anything to jepardize my tapering off antidepressants.

 

2008-2018 20mg celexa

2018 April  tapered 15ml, April 15 10mg,May 1st 5 mg, May 15 0mg

2018 July1st 10mg -July 15 20mg

Sept 2018 celexa 10mg Sept 15 20mg

Sept 2018 -tapered -15 Oct 2018 tapered 10mg

Nov 2018 tapered 05 mg-Dec 2018 tapered 0mg

Mar 3 -2019 ativan 1mg .March 18-2019 stopped ativan

March 06 2019 celexa 10mg March 20-2019 celexa 20mg

April-2019 15mg

May 2019 10mg

 

 

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ADs since ~1992:  25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after)

Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering Oct 2015  Current from 14 Nov 2020:  Pristiq 0.50 mg

My tapering program                                      My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.

 

REMINDER TO SELF:  I don't need the drug now, but my still brain does.

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3 minutes ago, Adriane said:

Hi I see that you took natural herbs and Gabba ,did these help you?I am planning on taking same herbs and supplemnts when i taper off celexa.

 

 

Please do your research before starting any supplements.  There are many existing topics on SA.  I like to use google and add survivingantidepressants.org to my search term.  Look for posts made by this site's founder, Altostrata.

 

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The only supplements which SA recommends are Magnesium and Omega-3 Fish Oil.  Try a small amount, one at a time, to see how you react to them.  Keep it Simple, Slow and Stable

 

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ADs since ~1992:  25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after)

Pristiq:  50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity)  Tapering Oct 2015  Current from 14 Nov 2020:  Pristiq 0.50 mg

My tapering program                                      My Intro (goes to my tapering graph)

My website - includes my brief history + links to videos & information on the web

PLEASE NOTE:  I am not a medical professional.  I provide information and make suggestions.

 

REMINDER TO SELF:  I don't need the drug now, but my still brain does.

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HI this is my second posting,just want to update my situation and maybe get some feedback.I am 54 years old.I have been on celexa for the past ten years and have tried to quit 5 times now. I am on 7 mg of celexa now, after 6 weeks i drop down 1 mg.I am starting to feel a little depressed at times.I started running  at least 5 days a week,and i find that helps.I am fearful of the time when i am completely off the meds, because of what happened last March. 

a year ago i tappered off my antidepressants and i was doing okay some sleepless nights and feeling low, until one day a freind offered me a  toke of sativia weed ,and i went into a full blown panic attack and went to ER.After waiting 6 hours and feeling like i was going to die,i finally saw a doctor he basically gave me some ativan and sent me home.I eneded up going back on celexa because i could'nt function well.from 10mg to 20mg in a matter of a few days.TIi started tappering again.Now im at 7 mg.I  am thinking of taking 5htp 50 mg when i tapper down to 5 mg.I will see a naturopath in January ,when my insurance kicks in and hopefully she/ he will be able to help me.I also started on progesterone cream about amonth ago and havent noticed any changes yet.Progesterone is suppose to be a happy hormone.

2008-2018 20mg celexa

2018 April  tapered 15ml, April 15 10mg,May 1st 5 mg, May 15 0mg

2018 July1st 10mg -July 15 20mg

Sept 2018 celexa 10mg Sept 15 20mg

Sept 2018 -tapered -15 Oct 2018 tapered 10mg

Nov 2018 tapered 05 mg-Dec 2018 tapered 0mg

Mar 3 -2019 ativan 1mg .March 18-2019 stopped ativan

March 06 2019 celexa 10mg March 20-2019 celexa 20mg

April-2019 15mg

May 2019 10mg

 

 

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Hi Adriane, 

I would suggest that you go more slowly as you get to the lower doses. I did fine from 20-5 mg but 5-0 sent me into hell. If you followed the 10% suggested taper, your next drop would be 0.7 mg but if you are struggling, perhaps a hold is called for. 

Aug  2000 - July 2003 (ct, 4-6 wk wd) , citalopram 20 mg ,  xanax prn, wellbutrin for a few months (don't remember dates), trazodone prn 

Dec 2004 - July 2018 citalopram 20 mg

Aug 2018 - citalopram 40 mg (self titrated up), occasionally did this in difficult times 

September 2018 - January 2019 tapered citalopram - 40/30/20/10/5 no issues until a week after reaching 0

Feb 2019 0.25 xanax/day, then 0.5/day (3 weeks) over to klonopin 0.25 once a day to manage severe wd

March 6, reinstated citalopram 2.5 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 mg for sleep 2-3 times a week

Apr 1st 2.0 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 once a week, April  14 , 2019 - citalopram 1.8 mg (liquid), May 8, 2019 - citalopram 1.6 mg (liquid),  July 27, 2019 - citalopram 1.5 mg (liquid),  August 15, 2019 - citalopram 1.35 (liquid)

 

 supplements:  melatonin 1 mg  

 

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Hello onmyway thanks for your reply.When you say you 5-0 was hell,what symtoms did you have.?

2008-2018 20mg celexa

2018 April  tapered 15ml, April 15 10mg,May 1st 5 mg, May 15 0mg

2018 July1st 10mg -July 15 20mg

Sept 2018 celexa 10mg Sept 15 20mg

Sept 2018 -tapered -15 Oct 2018 tapered 10mg

Nov 2018 tapered 05 mg-Dec 2018 tapered 0mg

Mar 3 -2019 ativan 1mg .March 18-2019 stopped ativan

March 06 2019 celexa 10mg March 20-2019 celexa 20mg

April-2019 15mg

May 2019 10mg

 

 

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@Altostrata , not sure if a moderator has seen this post . 

Cheers. 

Started Citalopram in 2005 (aged 15) for apparent "OCD" - 60mg 

July 2015 attempted 2 x 10% + cuts 4 weeks apart. WD symptoms intense at times. Need to slow down.

 

November 2016 - Resumed taper. 1.25 - 1.5% decrease weekly approx.

44.5mg November 2016. Jan 2017 42.5 mg. March 2017 40 mg. June 2017 37mg. September 2018 22mg. Nov 2018 Holding at 22mg to stabilise from moderate wave. January 2020 - Holding, mostly feeling fine, but still having some waves at times. 

 

February 2020 - Resumed taper , 1.5% reduction weekly/every two weeks. 

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Welcome, Adriane.

 

On 10/2/2019 at 12:29 AM, Adriane said:

....I eneded up going back on celexa because i could'nt function well.from 10mg to 20mg in a matter of a few days.TIi started tappering again.Now im at 7 mg.I  am thinking of taking 5htp 50 mg when i tapper down to 5 mg.I will see a naturopath in January ,when my insurance kicks in and hopefully she/ he will be able to help me.I also started on progesterone cream about amonth ago and havent noticed any changes yet.Progesterone is suppose to be a happy hormone.

 

Why are you thinking of taking 5-htp? How are you feeling now? What is your taper schedule? Please stop tapering while we discuss this.

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11 hours ago, Altostrata said:

Welcome, Adriane.

 

 

Why are you thinking of taking 5-htp? How are you feeling now? What is your taper schedule? Please stop tapering while we discuss this.

Hi Alto I am feeling  a little irritated at times, i am having trouble falling asleep some nights.I think i screwed up my tapering schedule.I thought 10% reduction was going from 10 mg to 9 mg then 8. However from reading more on tapering .Please help.I am now on 7mg for 1 month and am tapering to 6.5.I start tomorrow.whdat am i suppose to taper down to ??I was thinking of taking 5-htp because i read a book by a doctor and she said when you taper off AD one could take 50 mg 5htp.I thought it would help me feel better.what is your advise?I find it hard to navigate this web site.

2008-2018 20mg celexa

2018 April  tapered 15ml, April 15 10mg,May 1st 5 mg, May 15 0mg

2018 July1st 10mg -July 15 20mg

Sept 2018 celexa 10mg Sept 15 20mg

Sept 2018 -tapered -15 Oct 2018 tapered 10mg

Nov 2018 tapered 05 mg-Dec 2018 tapered 0mg

Mar 3 -2019 ativan 1mg .March 18-2019 stopped ativan

March 06 2019 celexa 10mg March 20-2019 celexa 20mg

April-2019 15mg

May 2019 10mg

 

 

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11 hours ago, Altostrata said:

Welcome, Adriane.

 

 

Why are you thinking of taking 5-htp? How are you feeling now? What is your taper schedule? Please stop tapering while we discuss this.

Also Onmywat suggested my next taper is 0.7 is that correct?

 

2008-2018 20mg celexa

2018 April  tapered 15ml, April 15 10mg,May 1st 5 mg, May 15 0mg

2018 July1st 10mg -July 15 20mg

Sept 2018 celexa 10mg Sept 15 20mg

Sept 2018 -tapered -15 Oct 2018 tapered 10mg

Nov 2018 tapered 05 mg-Dec 2018 tapered 0mg

Mar 3 -2019 ativan 1mg .March 18-2019 stopped ativan

March 06 2019 celexa 10mg March 20-2019 celexa 20mg

April-2019 15mg

May 2019 10mg

 

 

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OnMyWay  is pointing out that a 10% reduction of your current dose would be decreasing it by .7mgai.  The new dose would be 6.3mgai.  I wouldn't be in a hurry to taper, it would be a good idea to sort out the 5-htp before doing any reductions.

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking

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2 hours ago, brassmonkey said:

OnMyWay  is pointing out that a 10% reduction of your current dose would be decreasing it by .7mgai.  The new dose would be 6.3mgai.  I wouldn't be in a hurry to taper, it would be a good idea to sort out the 5-htp before doing any reductions.

thank you for your reply.It will take time for me to figure this all out.I m not taking 5htp until i have more information.I will taper slowly 10% for 4 weeks ,anything to get off these damn drugs.I have a question,approximately how long will it take me if i taper 10% from 7mg?

2008-2018 20mg celexa

2018 April  tapered 15ml, April 15 10mg,May 1st 5 mg, May 15 0mg

2018 July1st 10mg -July 15 20mg

Sept 2018 celexa 10mg Sept 15 20mg

Sept 2018 -tapered -15 Oct 2018 tapered 10mg

Nov 2018 tapered 05 mg-Dec 2018 tapered 0mg

Mar 3 -2019 ativan 1mg .March 18-2019 stopped ativan

March 06 2019 celexa 10mg March 20-2019 celexa 20mg

April-2019 15mg

May 2019 10mg

 

 

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A 10% every 4 weeks taper has a half life of about 6 months.  So six months from now you would be at 3.5mgai, and in a year 1.75mgai.  Following that pattern it would take you three and a half years to get to a point that is considered safe to jump to "0".  This is assuming that everything goes well and you don't have to make any extended holds.  For many people our "recommended taper" is still to fast and they either have to do smaller reductions or extend their hold times.  I highly recommend doing a Brassmonkey Slide which gives a 10% reduction every 6 weeks.  It takes a little longer, but the benefit is a greatly reduced symptom load.  Many of our members are having great success with it.

20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking

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On 10/10/2019 at 11:55 AM, brassmonkey said:

A 10% every 4 weeks taper has a half life of about 6 months.  So six months from now you would be at 3.5mgai, and in a year 1.75mgai.  Following that pattern it would take you three and a half years to get to a point that is considered safe to jump to "0".  This is assuming that everything goes well and you don't have to make any extended holds.  For many people our "recommended taper" is still to fast and they either have to do smaller reductions or extend their hold times.  I highly recommend doing a Brassmonkey Slide which gives a 10% reduction every 6 weeks.  It takes a little longer, but the benefit is a greatly reduced symptom load.  Many of our members are having great success with it.

thank you for your advise,i did see the taper process and understand now.I will have to show my doctor this.

2008-2018 20mg celexa

2018 April  tapered 15ml, April 15 10mg,May 1st 5 mg, May 15 0mg

2018 July1st 10mg -July 15 20mg

Sept 2018 celexa 10mg Sept 15 20mg

Sept 2018 -tapered -15 Oct 2018 tapered 10mg

Nov 2018 tapered 05 mg-Dec 2018 tapered 0mg

Mar 3 -2019 ativan 1mg .March 18-2019 stopped ativan

March 06 2019 celexa 10mg March 20-2019 celexa 20mg

April-2019 15mg

May 2019 10mg

 

 

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On 10/10/2019 at 11:55 AM, brassmonkey said:

A 10% every 4 weeks taper has a half life of about 6 months.  So six months from now you would be at 3.5mgai, and in a year 1.75mgai.  Following that pattern it would take you three and a half years to get to a point that is considered safe to jump to "0".  This is assuming that everything goes well and you don't have to make any extended holds.  For many people our "recommended taper" is still to fast and they either have to do smaller reductions or extend their hold times.  I highly recommend doing a Brassmonkey Slide which gives a 10% reduction every 6 weeks.  It takes a little longer, but the benefit is a greatly reduced symptom load.  Many of our members are having great success with it.

thank you again.where can i find your info.How you are doing after successfully tapering.Any panic attacks or anything like that?

2008-2018 20mg celexa

2018 April  tapered 15ml, April 15 10mg,May 1st 5 mg, May 15 0mg

2018 July1st 10mg -July 15 20mg

Sept 2018 celexa 10mg Sept 15 20mg

Sept 2018 -tapered -15 Oct 2018 tapered 10mg

Nov 2018 tapered 05 mg-Dec 2018 tapered 0mg

Mar 3 -2019 ativan 1mg .March 18-2019 stopped ativan

March 06 2019 celexa 10mg March 20-2019 celexa 20mg

April-2019 15mg

May 2019 10mg

 

 

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I will be drug free for two and a half years on Wednesday. I'm living a pretty normal life with normal emotional ups and downs.  The post "0" healing process is on going with steady improvements.  The hard part now is trying to tell what needs healing and what is just old age getting to me. You can read my success story here, it's pretty much up to date.

 

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/17647-tao-of-the-brassmonkey/

 

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20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013.

Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks.  The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better.

Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017

 

"It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general."  Stephen Hawking

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Hi Im confused today.Im at 6.5 mg of celexa for 6 weeks what will be my next reduction? using the brass monkey scale.?my doctor told me to drop to 6mg.is that too much?

 

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2008-2018 20mg celexa

2018 April  tapered 15ml, April 15 10mg,May 1st 5 mg, May 15 0mg

2018 July1st 10mg -July 15 20mg

Sept 2018 celexa 10mg Sept 15 20mg

Sept 2018 -tapered -15 Oct 2018 tapered 10mg

Nov 2018 tapered 05 mg-Dec 2018 tapered 0mg

Mar 3 -2019 ativan 1mg .March 18-2019 stopped ativan

March 06 2019 celexa 10mg March 20-2019 celexa 20mg

April-2019 15mg

May 2019 10mg

 

 

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@Adriane Please note I've merged the new post you made in with your introduction thread. Please keep posting here in your intro thread so all of your information is in one place.

 

Reducing from 6.5 mg to 6 mg is a 7.7% reduction.

 

Since you're using the Brassmonkey Slide, you could do this by making 2% reductions each week. This will actually be an 8% reduction, so you'd be down to 5.98 mg, which is very close.

 

However, it really depends on your symptoms. If you're struggling, you could hold a bit longer and then when you re-start your taper, go slower. 

Drug free May 22, 2015 after 30 years of neuroleptics, benzos, z-drugs, so-called "anti"-depressants, and amphetamines 

 

My Success Story:  Shep's Success: "Leaving Plato's Cave"

 

And what is good, Phaedrus, and what is not good — need we ask anyone to tell us these things? ~ Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

 

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Thank you shep,I am now taking 6 mg for 6 weeks ,so far i feel ok,I did have bad dreams last night,its been a long time since i had bad dreams,but i was also scaredlaying in bed listening to the stormy high winds,so that could have triggered it.I also notice when i drink too much coffee .I have to drink decaf.

 

2008-2018 20mg celexa

2018 April  tapered 15ml, April 15 10mg,May 1st 5 mg, May 15 0mg

2018 July1st 10mg -July 15 20mg

Sept 2018 celexa 10mg Sept 15 20mg

Sept 2018 -tapered -15 Oct 2018 tapered 10mg

Nov 2018 tapered 05 mg-Dec 2018 tapered 0mg

Mar 3 -2019 ativan 1mg .March 18-2019 stopped ativan

March 06 2019 celexa 10mg March 20-2019 celexa 20mg

April-2019 15mg

May 2019 10mg

 

 

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Adriane
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Titled:  taper question

 

HI i need help with tapering.I am at 5.25 and would like to taper to 5.How many percent drop is that? and what would be a 5% taper from 5.25.I tried to calculate it myself but i just want to make sure.

Thankyou 

Adriane

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2008-2018 20mg celexa

2018 April  tapered 15ml, April 15 10mg,May 1st 5 mg, May 15 0mg

2018 July1st 10mg -July 15 20mg

Sept 2018 celexa 10mg Sept 15 20mg

Sept 2018 -tapered -15 Oct 2018 tapered 10mg

Nov 2018 tapered 05 mg-Dec 2018 tapered 0mg

Mar 3 -2019 ativan 1mg .March 18-2019 stopped ativan

March 06 2019 celexa 10mg March 20-2019 celexa 20mg

April-2019 15mg

May 2019 10mg

 

 

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Hi Adriane, @Adriane,

I moved your last post in tapering, back here to your Introduction.  This is the best place for you to post with questions around your specifics.  And I can see what information has been given to you, thus far too.   As well as, learn a bit more about your case in general.

How are you doing now?  Any withdrawal symptoms of note?

I do see that last May(from your signature) you were on Celexa/citalopram 10 mg.  And then in narratives, I see that you were down to 6 mg last November(2019)

 

How have you been calculating your taper drops to date?  And when have you made changes in dose?  Please update your signature:  AccountsSettings/signature

On 3/3/2020 at 1:04 PM, Adriane said:

HI i need help with tapering.I am at 5.25 and would like to taper to 5.How many percent drop is that? and what would be a 5% taper from 5.25.I tried to calculate it myself but i just want to make sure.

 

Why taper by 10% of my dosage

**Tips for tapering Celexa(citalopram)

^ this is definitely worth your time to look at and study further, it also will help you figure out how to get the dosages that you will need for further tapering

 

I'm a bit concerned that you might be tapering a little fast.  I do see that you did a 10% taper, back when you were on 10 mg of Celexa, down to 9 mg.  After that......it's not clear how you have done your tapers, or what you have based the dosages on.  You may want to slow down a bit.

 

To calculate a 10% drop from 5.25 mg:

5.25 mg X .90 = 4.72 mg would be the dose to take that represents a 10% taper from your current dose

5.25 mg X .95 = 4.99 mg would be the dose for a 5% taper from your current dose

 

How are you measuring your doses right now.

 

Hope this helps.  And I would love to see an update.

 

L, P, H, and G,

mmt

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Started with psycho meds circa 1988 I think 27 or 28 total.

AD's, antpsychotics, antiseizure mood stabilizers. Lithium, lamictal ,benzos, and stimulants. Some med. for narcolepsy once(Provigil,) Gabapentin........probably more.  Ask me?......I probably was on it.  Haphazard W/D's by Dr. recommend or uneducated self.

10/2014- off Lexapro--had been on highest dose 10 mg. then 5 mg. for a couple of years, went from 5 mg. to 3 mg. liquid and then CT in hospital(voluntary).  I got out of the hospital on a combination of low dose adderal salts x1/day and trileptal 150mg. x2/day.

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!

 

3/21/2016---I did some unwise updosing of trileptal/oxcarbazepine with some stressful stuff......doubled the above dose x2 during this last wave but began liquifying again and on approximately 68mg. starting today.  11/12//2016 24 mg. oxcarbazepine  12/9/2016 off oxcarbazepine/trileptal!!!! :) optimistic  2016 December 9- completely off all medications!!!!!

Omega3's,EPA +DHA= 1800 mg/day. Magnesium complex, orally, diluted in a liter of H2O(that I can shake up.....it usually dissolves more completely as the water gets down to room temperature) and/or Epsom salt baths prn.   Vit. C, D3, and E.  B12, melatonin tapered to 1mg., and bioidentical hormones sublingually.  Trace mineral drops.  L-lysine.  L-methylfolate=400 mcg plus daily spinach. Totally ready for a good long window to hit soon and getting better strings of full days and partial days along the way.  Definite improvement overall since I first arrived on the SA survivor ship.  Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016.  None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. manymoretodays

 

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