Muddles Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I hear you btdt. I hope you get some answers with your new specialist. I admire your strength. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
mlrp Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Hi, btdt, I appreciate you and your spirit. "All I want is some truth. Just gimme some truth." ~John Lennon 04/2013 diagnoses: severe insomnia, major depressive disorder, anxiety disorder, agoraphobia. PTSD (my diagnosis) Original scripts: 30 mg mirtazapine (Remeron) (1x day), 75 mg Bupropion HCL (Wellbutrin) (2x day), and 0.5 lorazepam (1x day or as needed) 05/05/14: Onset of acute Wellbutrin withdrawal symptoms after haphazard "taper" of 6-8 wks. 05/10/14: Joined this site. 05/11/14: Reinstated approx. 25 mg Wellbutrin (1x day) 05/14/14: Switched to 12.5 mg Wellbutrin (2x day) 06/28/14: Changed lorazepam dosing to .25 mg 2x a day - seems to be reducing anxiety flare-ups 07/28/14: Dosing Wellbutrin in a (home made) solution form 12.5 mg (2x day) 08/15/14: Remeron 28 25.2 22.7 20.5 18.5 16.7 15.1 13.6 mg (home made) solution 05/16/15: Have been dosing lorazepam at .5 mg in the morning, .25 mg in the afternoon, and .25 mg at bedtime. Anxiety has increased somewhat, possibly due to tolerance. Link to comment
btdt Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 I could not participate in my care today was too out of it. So that specialist was a waste of time and money. Now being checked for clostridium does make one wonder what gifts are next. I am feeling sick with digestive issues can't think straight yet again. I do wonder muddles if it is strength at all... at some points it has been at other times it takes many other things to get thru this so many other things. I don't have the mind today to go into it but it takes a lot of different hats to do this right one hat I did not have today was the withdrawal administrator who deals with specialists. I think I have about had it with them anyway I have had the hat at other times and it made no difference anyway. So I am not going to beat myself up too much about it. Thanks you mlrp a little truth would go a long way tis true... we keep waiting. peace all WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Muddles Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Sorry you couldn't manage your appointment. I think you have enormous strength - there are a lot of people out there that couldn't have coped with everything you have had to go through. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
btdt Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 Thank you Muddles I you may be right I can't see myself very well. Maybe one day I will be able to I hope I can look back at myself in the future and find some integrity. For some reason maybe the loss of moral compass while drugged that is important to me. I hope things are better for you. peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 I went thru this like everyone else fighting groping stumbling giving in and laying low... all sorts of strategies were applied and still are... we keep going and try to help others like we were helped all the while we are learning and healing too... it is such two way street. peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Member cymbaltawithdrawal5600 Posted September 3, 2014 Member Share Posted September 3, 2014 Thinking of you and hoping you are doing well. Noticed you have not posted lately...... What happened and how I arrived here: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4243-cymbaltawithdrawal5600-introduction/#entry50878 July 2016 I have decided to leave my story here at SA unfinished. I have left my contact information in my profile for anyone who wishes to talk to me. I have a posting history spanning nearly 4 years and 3000+ posts all over the site. Thank you to all who participated in my recovery. I'll miss talking to you but know that I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines, suffering and rejoicing with you in spirit, as you go on in your journey. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Addax Posted September 3, 2014 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 3, 2014 Like CW, I noticed you haven't posted in a bit and am hoping thinks are going well for you. 1988-2012: Prozac @ 60mg (with a few stops and starts) Fall 2012: Returned to 40mg after discontinuing and horrid withdrawal Fall 2013: 40mg Fluoxetine, added 150mg Wellbutrin to treat fatigue Winter 2014: Attempting to taper both (too fast) April 2014: 9mg Fluoxetine + 37.5 Wellbutrin Summer 2014: 8 mg Fluoxetine + 0 Wellbutrin (way too fast a drop) Late summer/Early Fall 2014: Debilitating Withdrawal symptoms Fall 2014 - Wellbutrin successfully kicked to the curb but… Oct- Dec 2014: Panicked reinstatement of Fluoxetine ->30mg - held for 5yrs Jan 2021: taper to 20mg Fluoxetine then tapering by 1mg every 2-3 months Fall 2022 - held at 10mg->December 2022: 9mg->Feb 2023: 8mg ->March 2023: brassmonkey slide begins: 7.8mg -> 7.6 -> 7.4->2 week hold (April)->7.2->7mg->6.8->2 week hold->6.6-> 1-month hold ->(June)-6.5->4-week hold-> (July)-6.4 (discontinued brassmonkey slide and slowed taper)-> (Aug)-6.2->(Sept)-6.0->(Oct)-5.9->(Nov)-5.8->(Dec)-5.7->wave!->(Jan)-5.8->(Feb)-6mg and holding. My 2014 withdrawal experience: https://rxisk.org/antidepressant-withdrawal-a-prozac-story/ Link to comment
Muddles Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Hope you're ok btdt. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
btdt Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 I am now taking 23mg of pariet Rabeprazole I can't live without it even with it I am in pain. I know it affects my thinking yet I have no choice right now. I don't know if it is fixing something or just masking something. I have a second warning and am in no mood to contribute to another site that bans me after years invested. It seems completely pointless. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Member cymbaltawithdrawal5600 Posted September 7, 2014 Member Share Posted September 7, 2014 Oh btdt, I hope you are ok. Please don't leave the site. I have gotten much out of what you have written and I see you as someone who is able to befriend people whom I have such a hard time understanding. It is horrible that you are in pain, I wish there was something that could be done. You have come so far from all of the psych drugs, you should be able to catch a break. I'd hate to lose a voice from someoone who has been so long off drugs as you have been. Please take very good care of yourself and try to stay with us if you can. What happened and how I arrived here: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4243-cymbaltawithdrawal5600-introduction/#entry50878 July 2016 I have decided to leave my story here at SA unfinished. I have left my contact information in my profile for anyone who wishes to talk to me. I have a posting history spanning nearly 4 years and 3000+ posts all over the site. Thank you to all who participated in my recovery. I'll miss talking to you but know that I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines, suffering and rejoicing with you in spirit, as you go on in your journey. Link to comment
btdt Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 COMPLETED SUICIDE ranks among PARIET's most well-known side effects. The Dashboard explained: The Dashboard first shows general Summary Statistics for PARIET and COMPLETED SUICIDE, such as the raw number and percentage of patients in FDA reports who used PARIET and developed COMPLETED SUICIDE. Next, the Dashboard lists the most common reasons (indications) why PARIET was prescribed for patients. We then display a pie-chart which shows, in aggregate, what we believe represents general physician opinion of the safety of PARIET. This pie-chart summarizes, for all FDA reports covering PARIET, whether or not the treating physician felt PARIET (versus other drugs the patient was taking) was responsible for the adverse side-effects. After the pie-chart, we itemize the most common side effects in FDA studies covering PARIET. You may click on any of these side effects to learn more about them, in general, or specifically for PARIET. Finally, we identify the drugs most widely associated with PARIET in FDA literature. You may also click on any of these drugs to view it's dashboard. Guess I will be quitting this drug too. Before I started it I was living on ensure. I can go back to that. Thanks CW it has been a long time no doubt about that there does come a point where I am at now when living a subhuman sort of life is just not worth the bother could be the drug as usual... but that is where I am. Fed up tired sick of it all. Back to the doctor... feels completely medicalized guess that is a new word. I guess this is how old people feel... I am not yet at the magic freedom 55 age the one I planned for all those years ago... I had no idea what was ahead of me. Thinking back to those early retirement planning days and seeing what actually panned out is so far from what I thought plausible it is ridiculous to attempt to ponder it all. Could be I am just wore out by the entire situation not just the politics of no change continued harm the long long journey and continual gifts from Ad use... it is the entire mess of it all. Will see the doc or pharmacy and try a step down... I had this drug just after the car accident when I broke my rib went off them by missing days but it was half the dose I am now on. I am confused limp dizzy and depressed yes I am depressed who wouldn't be... no I am not taking a pill for that. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Member cymbaltawithdrawal5600 Posted September 7, 2014 Member Share Posted September 7, 2014 Such sadness and suffering. Please stop that drug if you think it will make you suicidal. There has been too much of that lately, even in my own thoughts. hard to keep it away when there does not seem to be any hope for change in circumstances. In my case, it is not so much the circumstances but the internal feelings and thoughts which are so bad. I have been counting on you being here to encourage me along and tell me that when I go through the awfulness, you've been there too and come out the other side. I am losing hope, hearing the despair in you. I wish I could help but I have nothing. What happened and how I arrived here: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4243-cymbaltawithdrawal5600-introduction/#entry50878 July 2016 I have decided to leave my story here at SA unfinished. I have left my contact information in my profile for anyone who wishes to talk to me. I have a posting history spanning nearly 4 years and 3000+ posts all over the site. Thank you to all who participated in my recovery. I'll miss talking to you but know that I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines, suffering and rejoicing with you in spirit, as you go on in your journey. Link to comment
Muddles Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Sorry bdtd to hear you are so down. Please don't leave the board. You are an inspiration to me. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
btdt Posted September 14, 2014 Author Share Posted September 14, 2014 Thank you both is good to feel of some use really makes a difference to me. I skipped taking the pariet one day as he day before I meant to get to the doctor and could not manage it finally phoned and pushed my way in to see the doc. I got a lower dose of the drug... took it later that day then screwed up and took the other one higher dose the next day in the midst of a migraine never rains but it pours... so figured that out finally waited... had one ok day on the lower dose and woke with a migraine again today. I have changed my diet and am making a health plan to work on as my physical self allows. A new plan should be my fing name.... yes I get reactions to so many things it is tiring and sometimes it beats the **** out of me... still I have held firm thru worse out of shear stubbornness and not wanting to let this be what brings me to my end. I have wasted too much time energy and hard work to over come this to throw it all away now. I generally know when I fall thru the cracks there is a drug at the bottom of it and am always right so far. So when you get clear of the withdrawal you have now please please please stay off drugs as much as you can. I avoid all sorts of suggested mental health help and will till the day I die... as that is what got me here to start with... or kept me here. It may well be I will battle the rest of my life but I plan on it being a long life as long as I can make it. It was hope that got me this far hope to once again have the life I had before but I have found in the good bits since hard withdrawal ENOUGH to keep me here it has not been the life it was before not even close ... but it has been enough. I wish for you both ENOUGH... and peace it is in the future it really is. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Addax Posted September 14, 2014 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 14, 2014 New diet, new plan for your physical well being... Good things! I'm glad your stubbornness prevails. 1988-2012: Prozac @ 60mg (with a few stops and starts) Fall 2012: Returned to 40mg after discontinuing and horrid withdrawal Fall 2013: 40mg Fluoxetine, added 150mg Wellbutrin to treat fatigue Winter 2014: Attempting to taper both (too fast) April 2014: 9mg Fluoxetine + 37.5 Wellbutrin Summer 2014: 8 mg Fluoxetine + 0 Wellbutrin (way too fast a drop) Late summer/Early Fall 2014: Debilitating Withdrawal symptoms Fall 2014 - Wellbutrin successfully kicked to the curb but… Oct- Dec 2014: Panicked reinstatement of Fluoxetine ->30mg - held for 5yrs Jan 2021: taper to 20mg Fluoxetine then tapering by 1mg every 2-3 months Fall 2022 - held at 10mg->December 2022: 9mg->Feb 2023: 8mg ->March 2023: brassmonkey slide begins: 7.8mg -> 7.6 -> 7.4->2 week hold (April)->7.2->7mg->6.8->2 week hold->6.6-> 1-month hold ->(June)-6.5->4-week hold-> (July)-6.4 (discontinued brassmonkey slide and slowed taper)-> (Aug)-6.2->(Sept)-6.0->(Oct)-5.9->(Nov)-5.8->(Dec)-5.7->wave!->(Jan)-5.8->(Feb)-6mg and holding. My 2014 withdrawal experience: https://rxisk.org/antidepressant-withdrawal-a-prozac-story/ Link to comment
btdt Posted September 14, 2014 Author Share Posted September 14, 2014 Thanks so far still in the planning stages... will see how it goes as the I have learned life is what happens when I am making other plans peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Fireball2014 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I hope & pray for you today btdt. You have been kind to me & I want to send healing your way. May peace come to you as you say. I have no peace right now & just remember you... On SSRI's/SNRI's for @ 25 years, first Prozac 18 years Took Pristiq last 3 years, had increase in severe migraines Started tapering Pristiq 100 mg every other day, was ok Tried Topamax for 2 weeks, but side effects intolerable Continued taper, able to tolerate 100mg every 4th day At 6 weeks cut 100mg tab to 50mg & had bad reaction Only taking 25mg sumatriptan or 0.5mg Ativan as needed 4 weeks later withdrawal worse, where do I go from here? Stabilizing on 4mg Prozac, NO triptans, NO Ativan 3.6mg hold since June 18 Link to comment
btdt Posted September 21, 2014 Author Share Posted September 21, 2014 Thank you! My problem is a reaction to PPI proton pump inhibitor drugs I have reacted to them all at this point.. for a time it looked like I could tolerate pariet but not this time not at the 20 mg dose. I am now down to 10 and trying other things to heal my stomach aloe vera juice I just happen to be taking this one https://well.ca/products/lily-of-the-desert-whole-leaf-aloe_39853.html not recommending it as I don't know if it is going to work or not... just trying Keefer likely spelled wrong Deglycyrrhizinated Licorice Root Extract tablets... and my normal probiotics I know I am going against all I have said about taking low doses of things and starting one thing at a time so you know what works and what you may be reacting too... I kind of did this but only for a day or so. If I did not react to it .. then I added another thing I want off this pill and am loading the bases to heal my gut so I can get away from it pronto. Fingers crossed. peace all WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
WinningThrough Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Hi btdt I just read the above and notice that you are taking liquorice root. I'm not sure how many you're taking or at what dose. I don't want to alarm you just to make you aware and protect you. A couple of years ago I took liquorice root. I think I was taking a fairly high dose. I had no idea that liquorice root can deplete potassium. While I was taking it I started to get tingling in my hands and feet and was getting a lot of pain in my body. It began to affect my heartbeat. I got an irregular heartbeat. It got down to 30bpm sometimes and I didn't know what was going on. I took my pulse and it was missing beats. One night I lay in bed and my heart didn't beat for ages. I was lying there literally waiting for it to beat. It would then do a hard thud. This kept happening all night. The next morning I collapsed and had to go to hospital where it was discovered that my potassium was very low. I was put on a potassium drip for six hours and then put on potassium tablets. Everything went back to normal and my potassium levels have been fine since. When liquorice is stopped, potassium levels do return to normal. I'm sure yours is fine but I couldn't not say anything when I saw that you were taking liquorice. The only way out is through. Aug 2013 - Augmentin leading to akathisia Sept-Nov 2013 - Citalopram 20mg, severe reaction, off at 5mg. Valium 4mg, prn Oct 2013 - 5 zopiclone tablets, 7.5mg End Nov 2013-end Feb 2014, Seroquel, top dose 150mg, off at 25mg End Nov 2013-early march 2014, Zoloft 100mg top dose, off at 25mg End Dec-2013-early April 2014, lorazepam 1mg prn April 3rd 2014 zoloft 5mg for a few days. 18/4/14 - zoloft, 1mg. Came off at 0.35 mg,14th June 2014 29 June 2014 - 1mg lorazepam, last ever 29 June 2014 - med free Link to comment
btdt Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share Posted September 22, 2014 Thank you for sharing this I will lower my dose to be on the safe side. I don't usually do this gang up on taking supplements but I am this time... maybe it is a good thing as I can switch things up here and there take a bit less of one thing and more of another. So far I feel ok tho I have had times where I am a very tired which had me wonder if I have blood loss going on just now... I do get that from too much magnesium too... for some reason I can't get up. will double check things in the morning when I am more apt to be a bit intelligent. Thank you hope things improve for us both soon peace. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Skylarblue75 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Hi btdt Spring of 1998 place on birth control pills for irregular bleeding, high testosterone and one ovarian cyst, stayed on until April 2004, told to take hormone holiday, conceived first son 4 months later-VERY BIG SUPRISE, was told wouldn't be able to have childern or would need reproductive doctor to help. Got pregnant again 2006 with second son easily, then was on/off birthcontrol again until October 2011, concieved 3rd son in October 2011(tried many times to get pregant again when 2nd child was close to 2yrs, hormone problems started again after 2nd child, along with thyroid enlargement. Spring of 2001 celexa 10 mgs-rx'd by pcp for complaints of chronic fatigue, irritability and weight gain, stayed on until June 2005, switched to Lexapro 20mgs for PPD, stayed on Lexapro 6-7 months, couldn't afford to see psyh dr. and Lexapro, saw PCP switched back to 20mgs celexa in 2007, remained on until November 2011, was c/t off due to 3rd pregnancy, baby had umbilical cord defect, seemed ok during pregnancy, except for crying jags here and there. Our miracle baby was born July 20th 2012, healthy except with reflux. One month later the anxiety,restlessness,horrible crying, insomnia and the deepest depression ever. That started the psyh drug nightmare-benzo's,antidepressants, sleeping pills, mood stablizers. Nothing help made me worse, doctors just kept changing the meds frequently. 4 mental health hospitalizations, rapid detox off benzos Jan 2013, horrible withdrawal and still suffering withdrawal symptoms NO ONE BELIEVES ME, I feel like ive been on one consistant drug withdrawal for the past 2 years January 2014 slow titrate up of lexapro to 20 mgs-horrible side effects!!, was just rapidly taper by current pysh off to pursade me to try an MAOI-no way!!! Was told should consider ECT Link to comment
Muddles Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Hi bdtd! Hope you're ok. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
btdt Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 Hi btdt I just read the above and notice that you are taking liquorice root. I'm not sure how many you're taking or at what dose. I don't want to alarm you just to make you aware and protect you. A couple of years ago I took liquorice root. I think I was taking a fairly high dose. I had no idea that liquorice root can deplete potassium. While I was taking it I started to get tingling in my hands and feet and was getting a lot of pain in my body. It began to affect my heartbeat. I got an irregular heartbeat. It got down to 30bpm sometimes and I didn't know what was going on. I took my pulse and it was missing beats. One night I lay in bed and my heart didn't beat for ages. I was lying there literally waiting for it to beat. It would then do a hard thud. This kept happening all night. The next morning I collapsed and had to go to hospital where it was discovered that my potassium was very low. I was put on a potassium drip for six hours and then put on potassium tablets. Everything went back to normal and my potassium levels have been fine since. When liquorice is stopped, potassium levels do return to normal. I'm sure yours is fine but I couldn't not say anything when I saw that you were taking liquorice. Thanks for the infor I have quit taking the licorice maybe have one once in awhile I did not find it helpful for my stomach. Caused a lot of belching is all I could see... sticking with the aloe vera juice think it is helping with inflammation and maybe some sort of virus... or something I had ...seems I had a block in my sinus or there abouts the aloe seems to have helped me breath easier... This is going to be gross... so don't read it if you guts are iffy. I have had repeated sinus infections... for years now had a 6 month run this year seems to be a sinus drip too always making my stomcah sick... the pallet or roof of my mouth at the back has seemed swollen even the ent doc commented on it but was not sure why it was that way. After 2 wks of taking the aloe vera juice it seemed to me I could breath easier all the time... gradual improvment not a lot but some... I have become use to this post nasal drip thing since withdrawal I don't like it and have steroid sprays that help some I use them hit and miss... now. Nothing stops the post nasal drip even when I think it is gone doc says it is still there just not as noticeable as usual. gross part. after 2 wks of taking the aloe vera there seemed to be a mass that went down the path where the post nasal drip usually goes... it turned my stomach and I had dry heaves for a long time but could not get it out. I am timid of vomiting due to gastro bleed in the past don't want that again. I continue to take the aloe vera and continue to breath freely... not sure how long I will take it... seems to have helped my foot and other things have calmed somewhat not gone but calmer. I am hoping nothing stops me from taking it as it truly seems to help me. Down side I am getting a LOT of mirgraines not sure if it could have something to do with Pariet/Aloe vera or not ... can't find anything is searching that would suggest a big problems ... but one just never know. so unexpected result from aloe Juice for me so far is can breath a lot better.... not sure it could be a fluke but I don't think it is. peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 I hope & pray for you today btdt. You have been kind to me & I want to send healing your way. May peace come to you as you say. I have no peace right now & just remember you... I am glad I come across as kind I am hoping to be kind. Thank you for the healing sent... I am praying too one things this withdrawal has helped is my prayer life. I hope peace has found you no matter how brief it all counts take it and build on it. This process if that is what it is can be very trying we need to be kind to each other as we know so little of the blessing meant for us. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 Hi bdtd! Hope you're ok. I am ok. Basically. Not great but not too bad. I keep putting one foot in front of the other and am spending a lot of time resting and taking good care of my diet and other healing aspects like meditation ect. Working the tool box and sometimes just sitting in a veggitative state... not sure why. I think the pariet makes me confused or otherwise not able to think well. When I catch myself vegging too long I try to shake it off. I am now skipping a day here and there and trying to wean myself from the pariet... bland diet sucks but it is better than pain. I was thinking maybe the pariet had something to do with migraines found one reference but I can't open it for some reason ... I don't have the intelect to figure out... PARIET - Janssen Inc. www.janssen.ca/subcategory_docdownload?id=1570 Mar 8, 2013 - digoxin or drugs that may cause hypomagnesemia (e.g., diuretics), health care ... PARIET® tablets should not be administered to pregnant women ... hypertension, increased capillary fragility, migraine, myocardial infarction,. but I am holding on and my stomach is healing it just is not there yet and I know I will get acid rebound when I try to go off The real sign of how any of us is doing is not getting any worse and other than the head aches nothing worse has gone down... just more crap. Thanks for asking Muddles I know you having a time too... hold on best advice I have. If there is anything in the tool box that helps use it often... peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted October 17, 2014 Author Share Posted October 17, 2014 I have a bug of some sort and have not been up to computer things for a bit will try to catch up as I get better. peace all WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Muddles Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Sorry to hear that. Hope you pick up soon. Take care. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus mammaP Posted October 17, 2014 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted October 17, 2014 Sorry that you are feeling sick BT, hope it passes soon. **I am not a medical professional, if in doubt please consult a doctor with withdrawal knowledge. Different drugs occasionally (mostly benzos) 1976 - 1981 (no problem) 1993 - 2002 in and out of hospital. every type of drug + ECT. Staring with seroxat 2002 effexor. Tapered March 2012 to March 2013, ending with 5 beads. Withdrawal April 2013 . Reinstated 5 beads reduced to 4 beads May 2013 Restarted taper Nov 2013 OFF EFFEXOR Feb 2015 Tapered atenolol and omeprazole Dec 2013 - May 2014 Tapering tramadol, Feb 2015 100mg , March 2015 50mg July 2017 30mg. May 15 2018 25mg Taking fish oil, magnesium, B12, folic acid, bilberry eyebright for eye pressure. My story http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4199-hello-mammap-checking-in/page-33 Lesson learned, slow down taper at lower doses. Taper no more than 10% of CURRENT dose if possible Link to comment
btdt Posted October 19, 2014 Author Share Posted October 19, 2014 I am taking care thank you both... bumping along sleeping a lot.. it will pass just hasn't yet. peace all WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
WinningThrough Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Hope you feel better soon. The only way out is through. Aug 2013 - Augmentin leading to akathisia Sept-Nov 2013 - Citalopram 20mg, severe reaction, off at 5mg. Valium 4mg, prn Oct 2013 - 5 zopiclone tablets, 7.5mg End Nov 2013-end Feb 2014, Seroquel, top dose 150mg, off at 25mg End Nov 2013-early march 2014, Zoloft 100mg top dose, off at 25mg End Dec-2013-early April 2014, lorazepam 1mg prn April 3rd 2014 zoloft 5mg for a few days. 18/4/14 - zoloft, 1mg. Came off at 0.35 mg,14th June 2014 29 June 2014 - 1mg lorazepam, last ever 29 June 2014 - med free Link to comment
btdt Posted October 19, 2014 Author Share Posted October 19, 2014 thanks Winning bit better today WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted October 19, 2014 Author Share Posted October 19, 2014 I remembered what I wanted to say about that video... she said oxytocin and lowers coritstol... may have spelled them both wrong sorry spellcheck is of no help. She said it is made up of amino acids... she also said something about vassopressin I can't recall. So I was thinking if we want to lower coristol we could maybe use those amino acids since taurine has helped some thought it may be there but it wasn't.... as I looked it up here. http://www.worldofmo...ns/oxytocin.htm This surprised me "he relationship between oxytocin and human sexual response is unclear. At least two non-controlled studies have found increases in plasma oxytocin at orgasm in both men and women.[5][6] The authors of one of these studies speculated that oxytocin's effects on muscle contractibility may facilitate sperm and egg transport.[5" "In humans, oxytocin is thought to be released during hugging, touching, and orgasm in both sexes. In the brain, oxytocin is involved in social recognition and bonding, and may be involved in the formation of trust between people[1] and generosity.[2][3]" I wonder if it plays a role in pssd. But I am side tracked sorry cold is making me a bit stupid. Structure and relation to vasopressin Oxytocin is a peptide of nine amino acids (a nonapeptide). The sequence is cysteine - tyrosine - isoleucine - glutamine - asparagine - cysteine - proline - leucine - glycine (CYIQNCPLG). The cysteine residues form a sulfur bridge. Oxytocin has a molecular mass of 1007 daltons. One international unit (IU) of oxytocin is the equivalent of about 2 micrograms of pure peptide. The structure of oxytocin is very similar to that of vasopressin (cysteine - tyrosine - phenylalanine - glutamine - asparagine - cysteine - proline - arginine - glycine), also a nonapeptide with a sulfur bridge, whose sequence differs from oxytocin by 2 amino acids. A table showing the sequences of members of the vasopressin/oxytocin superfamily and the species expressing them is present in the vasopressin article. Oxytocin and vasopressin were isolated and synthesized by Vincent du Vigneaud in 1953, work for which he received the Nobel Prize in Chemistry in 1955. Oxytocin and vasopressin are the only known hormones released by the human posterior pituitary gland to act at a distance. However, oxytocin neurons make other peptides, including corticotropin-releasing hormone (CRH) and dynorphin, for example, that act locally. The magnocellular neurons that make oxytocin are adjacent to magnocellular neurons that make vasopressin, and are similar in many respects." " phenylalanine is ringing some bell for me but I can't recall why... link is worth the read This may turn out to be another wild goose chase but for some reason I am interested by it just now when I think of that road back program I wonder if they did something like this to get better... I know we don't recommend it. still I am going to look more when I feel up to it... or get obsessed if I am not already. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted October 19, 2014 Author Share Posted October 19, 2014 drugs that have Phenylalanine http://www.pkunews.org/diet/asptable.htm include but not limited to Antipsycotics and Antidepressants Remeron 15ng Soltabs 2.6mg/tablet Remeron 30mg Soltabs 5.2mg/tablet Remeron 45mg Soltabs 7.8mg/tablet Zyprexa Zydis 5mg ODTablet 0.34mg/tablet Zyprexa Zydis 10mg ODTablet 0.45mg/tablet Zyprexa Zydis 15mg ODTablet 0.67mg/tablet Zyprexa Zydis 20mg ODTablet 0.90mg/tablet Singulair 5mg chewable tablet 0.842mg/tablet H-2 Antagonists (stomach) Pepcid 20mg RPD Tablet 1.05mg/tablet Pepcid 40mg RPD tablet 2.10mg/tablet Zantac efferdose tablets and granules 16.84mg/150mg Migraine treatment Maxalt-MLT 5mg tablet 1.05mg/tablet Maxalt-MLT 10mg tablet iemetics Zofran ODT 4mg <0.03mg/tablet Zofran ODT 8mg <0.03mg/tablet Antilipemics (Cholesterol) Cholestyramine powder 14mg/packet Colestid flavored granules 15-18mg/7.5mg dose Prevalite powder 14mg/packet Questran Lite powder This group I used in withdrawal PRODUCT PHE CONTENT OVER THE COUNTER DRUGS Cold and Allergy Non-prescription Products Alka-Seltzer Plus sparkling original flavor 8.4mg/tablet Alka-Seltzer Plus Cold and Cough medicine 11mg/tablet Alka-Seltzer Plus Cold and Sinus 4mg/tablet Alka-Seltzer Plus Cold medicine cherry flavor 5.6mg/tablet Alka-Seltzer Plus Cold medicine orange zest flavor 4.2mg/tablet Alka-Seltzer Plus Flu w/Max-Strength Pain Reliever, honey orange 6.7mg/tablet Alka-Seltzer Plus Nose and Throat Cold Medicine, citrus blend 5.6mg/tablet Alka-Seltzer Plus Night-Time Cold Medicine 7.8mg/tablet Augmentin 200mg 2.1mg/tablet Augmentin 400mg 4.2mg/tablet Benadryl allergy and sinus fastmelt 4.6mg/tablet Benadryl allergy chewables 4.2mg/tablet Benadryl, Childrens allergy and cold fast melt tablets 4.6mg/tablet Childrens PediaCare Multi-Symptom Cold Chewables, Cherry flavor 8.4mg/tablet Diabetic Tussin Maximum strength DM 8.4mg/teaspoon Diabetic Tussin Regular strength DM 8.4mg/teaspoon Halls sugar free menthol cough supressant drops 2mg/drop Ricola Sugar free herb throat drops 1mg/drop Robitussin sugar free throat drops 3.37mg/drop Sudafed childrens chewables 0.78mg/tablet TheraFlu Maximum strength Flu and Congestion non-drowsy 24mg/packet TheraFlu Maximum Strength Flu and Sore throat packets 22mg/packet TheraFlu Maximum Strength Severe cold and congestion night time 17mg/packet TheraFlu Maximum Strength Severe cold and congestion non-drowsy 17mg/packet TheraFlu Regular Strength Cold and Sore throat packets 11mg/packet TheraFlu Regular strength Cough and Cold packet 13mg/packet Triaminic softchews allergy and congestion 17.6mg/tablet Triaminic softchews allergy, runny nose and congestion 17.5mg/tablet Triaminic softchews cough 22.5mg/tablet Triaminic softchews cough and sore throat 28.1mg/tablet Wal-Flu Maximum strength non-drowsy Flu, Cough and Cold (Walgreens brand) 0mg phe Wal-Flu Regular strength Cough and Cold (Walgreens Brand) 0mg phe Walgreens Effervescent Cold Relief Plus, original flavor 8.4mg/tablet Wal-Tussin DM Clear (Walgreens brand) 14mg/teaspoon Valu-Rite Expectorant DM clear cough syrup 14mg/teaspoon Analgesic Non-prescription Products Advil, Childrens 50mg chewable tablets grape 2.1mg/tablet Advil, Junior strength 100mg fruit 4.2mg/tablet Alka-Seltzer PM 4.04mg/tablet Excedrin Quick Tabs Free Motrin, Junior Strength chewable tablets 100mg grape 2.8mg/tablet Motrin. Childrens chewable tablets 50mg orange/grape flavor 1.4mg/tablet Non-Aspirin, Childrens soft chewable tablets all flavors (Walgreens brand) 6mg/tablet Non-Aspirin, Junior strength all flavors (Walgreens brand) 12mg/tablet Tempra quicklets childrens or junior stengths 21mg/tablet Antacids Alka-Seltzer antacid and pain relief medicine lemon-lime 9mg/tablet Alka-Seltzer Heartburn Relief lemon lime 11mg/2 tablets Alka-Seltzer Morning Relief 9mg/tablet Chooz antacid/calcium supplement 2.4mg/tablet Surpass antacid chewable gum extra Strength wintergreen flavor 3.9mg/piece Surpass antacid chewable gum Regular strength fruit flavor 3.9mg/piece Laxatives Citrucel sugar free fiber therapy 52mg/adult dose(10.2gm) Maalox Quick dissolve Max Stength assorted flavor or lemon flavor 0.9mg/tablet Maalox Quick dissolve Max Stength wild berry flavor 0.5mg/tablet Metamucil sugar free fiber Orange flavor 25mg/teaspoon Reguloid sugar free regular flavor 6mg/rounded teaspoon Reguloid sugar free orange flavor 30mg/rounded teaspoon NVP sugar free orange flavor (Walgreens brand) 21mg/teaspoon Medilax chewable tablets 2mg/tablet Vitamins and Minerals Citracal Liquitab Effervescent tablets 12mg/tablet Bugs Bunny complete, plus iron or plus extra vit C chewable tablets 3mg/tablet Bugs Bunny childrens chewable tablets 2mg/tablet Centrum Junior chewable tablets 4mg/tablet Flinstones vitamins complete or with calcium 2mg/tablet Garfield complete with mineral chewable vitamins 3mg/tablet Sunkist multivitamin complete 4mg/tablet Sunkist multivitamins plus iron or plus extra C chewable tablets 6mg/tablet Electrolyte Replacement Pedialyte freezer pops 16mg/pop Kao Lectrolyte electrolyte replenisher unflavored or bubble gum 11mg/packet Kao Lectrolyte electrolyte replenisher grape flavor 23mg/packet Motion Sickness and Nausea Medicine Dramamine chewable formula tablets 1.5mg/tablet Dramamine chewable tablets 1.5mg/tablet Nauzene chewable tabs for nausea wild cherry 18mg/4 tablets Benadryl allergy and sinus fastmelt 4.6mg/tablet Benadryl allergy chewables 4.2mg/tablet Benadryl, Childrens allergy and cold fast melt tablets 4.6mg/tablet WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted October 19, 2014 Author Share Posted October 19, 2014 There may of course be no relation to this one ingredient and the reaction of the medication. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
WinningThrough Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Thanks btdt. That's interesting about the oxytocin. I will take a look at that video. The only way out is through. Aug 2013 - Augmentin leading to akathisia Sept-Nov 2013 - Citalopram 20mg, severe reaction, off at 5mg. Valium 4mg, prn Oct 2013 - 5 zopiclone tablets, 7.5mg End Nov 2013-end Feb 2014, Seroquel, top dose 150mg, off at 25mg End Nov 2013-early march 2014, Zoloft 100mg top dose, off at 25mg End Dec-2013-early April 2014, lorazepam 1mg prn April 3rd 2014 zoloft 5mg for a few days. 18/4/14 - zoloft, 1mg. Came off at 0.35 mg,14th June 2014 29 June 2014 - 1mg lorazepam, last ever 29 June 2014 - med free Link to comment
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