btdt Posted October 19, 2014 Author Share Posted October 19, 2014 it was long with few things I was looking for but can't hurt if your up to it... this one is more to the point for our uses. even a nasal spray http://www.latinopost.com/articles/6052/20140610/oxytocin-nasal-spray-effects-hormone-makes-dogs-more-loving.htm Just looking around I have been doing this for years I just keep looking What was interesting about the connection with the other link posted today was the amino acids connected to oxytocin this was new to me and the connection between oxytocin and vasopressin. feel bloated lol I do asopressin, also known as arginine vasopressin (AVP), antidiuretic hormone (ADH), or argipressin, is aneurohypophysial hormone found in most mammals. Its two primary functions are to retain water in the body and to constrict blood vessels. Vasopressin regulates the body's retention of water by acting to increase water reabsorption in the collecting ducts of the kidney nephron.[1][2] Vasopressin is a peptide hormone that increases water permeability of the kidney's collecting duct and distal convoluted tubule by inducing translocation of aquaporin-CD water channels in the kidney nephron collecting duct plasma membrane.[3] It also increases peripheral vascular resistance, which in turn increases arterial blood pressure. It plays a key role in homeostasis, by the regulation of water, glucose, and salts in the blood. It is derived from a preprohormone precursor that is synthesized in the hypothalamus and stored in vesicles at the posterior pituitary. Most of it is stored in the posterior pituitary to be released into the bloodstream. However, some AVP may also be released directly into the brain, and accumulating evidence suggests it plays an important role in social behavior, sexual motivation and pair bonding, and maternal responses to stress[citation needed]. It has a very short half-life between 16-24 minutes. from wiki the easy channel. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted October 19, 2014 Author Share Posted October 19, 2014 Vassopressin ssri...association SIADH in turn can be caused by a number of problems. Some forms of cancer can cause SIADH, particularly small cell lung carcinoma but also a number of other tumors. A variety of diseases affecting the brain or the lung (infections, bleeding) can be the driver behind SIADH. A number of drugs has been associated with SIADH, such as certain antidepressants (serotonin reuptake inhibitors and tricyclic antidepressants), the anticonvulsant carbamazepine, oxytocin (used to induce and stimulate labor), and the chemotherapy drug vincristine. It has also been associated with fluoroquinolones (including ciprofloxacin and moxifloxacin).[2] Finally, it can occur without a clear explanation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasopressin worth reading again and I will think harder about it Vasopressin released within the brain has many actions: Vasopressin is released into the brain in a circadian rhythm by neurons of the suprachiasmatic nucleus.[citation needed]Vasopressin released from centrally projecting hypothalamic neurons is involved in aggression, blood pressure regulation, and temperature regulation.[citation needed]It is likely that vasopressin acts in conjunction with corticotropin-releasing hormone to modulate the release of corticosteroids from theadrenal gland in response to stress, particularly during pregnancy and lactation in mammals.[7][8][9]Selective AVPr1a blockade in the ventral pallidum has been shown to prevent partner preference in prairie voles, suggesting that these receptors in this ventral forebrain region are crucial for pair bonding.[4]Recent evidence suggests that vasopressin may have analgesic effects. The analgesia effects of vasopressin were found to be dependent on both stress and gender.[10]A lot to this I cannot get into my head. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Wildflower0214 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Hey there, Hope you got over your bug without having to see a dr. Hope you are well. I'm at such a point I don't know my head from my a**. But, believing it will pass and wishing you well. 2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor..... 5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses. Link to comment
Wolfhound Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Hi btdt. A hug from me. You´ve helped me a lot. Both your encouraging on my thread and my reading yours. Stay here with us. Take care! W. Put on trazadone for 8 weeks. Psychic akathisia started on 100 mg. Not a single doctor believed me telling me it is all anxiety in my head. Terrible suicidal urges. Got voluntary hospitalised. Acknoledged adverse reaction, put me off cold turkey. Instalated mirtazapine to block the reaction of trazadone. 5 weeks on mirtazapine.acathisia worsened, suicidal, homicidal urges. Nobody believed. Finally they stopped mirtazapine cold turkey. My heighest dose of trazadone was 200 mg, of mirtazapine 30 mg. Since the c/t, suicidal, acathisia continuing. tried promethazine for sleep. Tried atarax. Currently taking klonopin for 10 days. Good for sleep, but my condition worsening. Unable to tell if it is klonopin or a bad wave. In the former hospital i took twice gabapentin. It should be all my medication. i was offered promethazin for sleep 25 mg and also small amount of quetiapine. Both are antipsychotics, even if ptomethszin very weak. Terribly afraid. Link to comment
Muddles Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 How are you btdt? 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
btdt Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 Hey there, Hope you got over your bug without having to see a dr. Hope you are well. I'm at such a point I don't know my head from my a**. But, believing it will pass and wishing you well. Keep on believing you will need that to see you through this peace to you. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 Finished my antibiotics still very tired resting a lot. Waiting it out still this is a long process but nothing like wd's long process. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 I was given becofen... by my GP yesterday suggested to me first by a specialist ... jaw is in spasm... apparently thought to contribute to headaches... I asked me doc what the specialist said to her she said she did not understand the report should have asked for a copy but didn't was in pain and wanted out we covered a ton of topics in 5 min or less. Got the pills too half a 10mg pill it did not stop the jaw pain.. I added a pain killer to the mix. I took to halves so 5mg twice once awake once at night... I have noticed a few things... my foot that has been sort of cramped and painful for years eased... my right shoulder is a bit lower I think it is always too high and painful .. as are many other things ...all on the same side... I then looked up the side effects and freaked out.. a bit .. the bottle says 3 a day... at 10mg no half a pill on the bottle like she told me with her mouth... but she knows how hyper sensitive I am... still correct bottle labeling is expected by me. I think I need it... what are we treating beyond the term spaciity I don't know the dx... Unkown.. the cause who the hell knows... this is what my life it like... maddening. The side effects hallucination... ect... lots of psych affects and withdrawal is hellacious... not too interested in taking it except it may work... signing off confused.and unsure of my next move WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
calithebold Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I had no idea about pariet. I've been taking it for years and years and am on 40mg at the moment. I can't believe that everything I am on is such a hazard but I do believe it. It's so scary, this is going to be one long journey . Thanks for the info! All medications:: Xanax (1995-96), Aropax (1995-96), Mellaril (1997-2000), Efexor (1997-2002), Seroquel (2000-now), Lithium Carbonate (2000-now), Avanza (2002-05), Epilim (2005), Seroquel-XR (2000-now), Zyprexa (2002-14), Raberprazole (2000-now prn), Crestor (2009-15), Gabapentin (2009-12), Lamictal (2010-now), Abilify (2011-now) Lyrica (2012-now), Diazepam (2010-now prn), Saphris (2014), Respiridone (2014), Chlorpromazine (2014) Neulatil (07/2016) Current medications: Lithium Carbonate 750mg; Seroquel-XR 600mg, 800mg 04/16, 600mg 04/16, 400mg 04/16, 200mg 04/16, 400mg 04/16, 500mg 04/16; Lamictal 250mg 200mg150mg 04/16; Lyrica 300mg; Abilify 20mg 30mg 11/15 Zoloft 25mg 04/16 ceased after a week due to severe suicidal thoughts; Seroquel 25mg prn; Diazepam 40mg CT Jan 2013, 5mg occasionally, (massive med changes in April 2016 due to a hospital admission). Supplements: Fish oil 4000mg, Magnesium 100mg , Niacinamide 1000mg, Slippery Elm 800mg , B12 1000mcg, Zinc 50mg, B6 100mg, Vitamin D 2000IU, Calcium 1200mg, P5P 100mg, Vitamin C 2000mg, Vitamin E 400IU Link to comment
btdt Posted November 14, 2014 Author Share Posted November 14, 2014 I am taking pariet too 10 mg once a day I don't want to increase it and would like to be done with it asap. I have not taken any more baclofen ... taking my time on this it does not stop the pain in my jaw by itself so doubting it for that use. Today my doctor called said she had a report from a specialist I went to last month who did a xray and apparently my jaw is broken.. I know sound odd to me to... when I was there at the apt I was told I had arthritis in my jaw... now a month late she gets a report my jaw is broken... she is setting up a cat scan to get a better look ... if I have not heard anything in 2 wks I am to call the ct place to check.. that would make it 6 wks with a broken jaw and by then it could be healed... I have had bones heal before in 6wks.. So still on the weird train here with symptoms... Could be drug induced dystonia looks right if you know my symptoms but a broken jaw is reaching even for my imagination "orofacial dystonias" Treatment for oromandibular dystonia must be highly customized to the individual. A multitude of oral medications has been studied to determine benefit for people with oromandibular dystonia. About one-third of people's symptoms improve when treated with oral medications such as Klonopin (clonazepam), Artane (trihexyphenidyl), diazepam (Valium), tetrabenezine, and Lioresal (baclofen). More than likely it is a type of dystonia causing the one sided pain I have in my body the baclofen is helping other things more than my jaw... at this point I am sticking to T3 and staying away from the new drug will see what I decide at bed time... toss up as I don't know yet. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted November 14, 2014 Author Share Posted November 14, 2014 I wonder if dystonia can cause a fracture... I am too out of it to look right now very tired... peace all WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted November 14, 2014 Author Share Posted November 14, 2014 I am using the baclofen sparingly finding it makes a big difference in how my body feels... I sleep better but feel drugged in the mornings. It has changed my one foot that always felt contracted and cramped to open same with the muscle in the calf of that leg which has been an ongoing issues throughout withdrawal. My shoulder on the same side has been raised for years feels more relaxed and lowered. I have taken the half dose which is 5mg 2x including before bed for two days today I took one dose of 5mg in the morning hoping to treat a head ache I suspected was caused by neck contraction. It did not work I had to add codeine to slow the head ache then ended up in bed due to the grogy side effects and a head ache that refused to ease. I am thinking I will take the 5mg at night for a few more nights at least. I am loving the effect on my one foot. I would like to note the complimentary muscles that work with the ones contracted are no sore as I suspect they have not be moving in a full fashion for some time. I have looked up the reason ones jaw would be broken and I may have some underlying disease such as cancer I hope not. Causes I have found list severe gum disease which I know I don't have I have spent a fortune on my teeth and bad days of withdrawal if I got up at all my teeth were cleaned. Other causes are : Improper supplementation with calcium and phosphorus chronic kidney disease osteogenisis imperfectus... some congenical disease cancer of the jaw bone already mentioned. Fractures may result secondary to mechanical overload: Torque results in spiral fractures Avulsion in transverse fractures Bending is short oblique fractures Compression in impaction and comminution Degree of fragmentation depends on the degree of energy transfer as a result of overload. These are the non trauma issues I was put to sleep and had a tooth removed but I think that was too long ago to be an issue as I suspect a bone to have healed by this time. Thing is the fracture is around the joint so maybe not and there is at least one piece bone loose in there where it should not be... I am not sure how reasonable this idea could be... how long a person could have a fractured jaw and not know it. I have had headaches and pain and it has always been suspected to be a dental issue ... this xray came about because of my dentist and my doctor not knowing what else to do with me when I would not stop complaining and serial infections I felt must have an underlying cause. It cost me money to have this apt as Canada is going towards private clinics and neither my doc or dentist thought there were a legitimate cause for this xray or it could have been done in hosp. I am on a fixed limited budget and almost did not go for this apt due to the cost eventually arranged a personal loan which will take me most of the winter to pay off. The loan is from a family member. That is my personal issue with the cost not to mention being in pain so long I have become accustom to it and almost did not go to this apt. as I associated it with more withdrawal issues that would pass in time or not... as some don't. This issue may have nothing to do with withdrawal. I am curious about the calcium issue on the list above as I cannot tolerate calcium and vit D post ssri use. I will post he cause once I get the testing and treatment and you can be sure I will be asking about any relation to using ssri drugs. I was surprised when I read the report from this last specialist that the issues of pain in relation to withdrawal from ssri and snri drug was actually part of the report as it has been my experience in the past that my ideas of what is causing pain seldom if ever made it to print in my file. I have actually read reports after seeing specialist and wondered who they seen as it was completely foreign to anything I said at the apt. but this one was ok. So this is my update peace all. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
calithebold Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 When I was in hospital in the middle of last year, I fell off of the end of my bed at a 45% angle and when the nurses came they just said, "you'll be fine" and put me to bed with some paracetamol and some valium. I found out in December last year that although it was now healed, I had a past fracture in my neck. I was so angry because it could have caused some of my head and neck pain. Bearing in mind that because I only have one and a half bones in my neck that are fused, it wasn't that noticeable because the pain was the same pain as normal. Still though, scary. I hope they can figure out what they can do to help and find out how it happened and how bad it is. Thinking of you All medications:: Xanax (1995-96), Aropax (1995-96), Mellaril (1997-2000), Efexor (1997-2002), Seroquel (2000-now), Lithium Carbonate (2000-now), Avanza (2002-05), Epilim (2005), Seroquel-XR (2000-now), Zyprexa (2002-14), Raberprazole (2000-now prn), Crestor (2009-15), Gabapentin (2009-12), Lamictal (2010-now), Abilify (2011-now) Lyrica (2012-now), Diazepam (2010-now prn), Saphris (2014), Respiridone (2014), Chlorpromazine (2014) Neulatil (07/2016) Current medications: Lithium Carbonate 750mg; Seroquel-XR 600mg, 800mg 04/16, 600mg 04/16, 400mg 04/16, 200mg 04/16, 400mg 04/16, 500mg 04/16; Lamictal 250mg 200mg150mg 04/16; Lyrica 300mg; Abilify 20mg 30mg 11/15 Zoloft 25mg 04/16 ceased after a week due to severe suicidal thoughts; Seroquel 25mg prn; Diazepam 40mg CT Jan 2013, 5mg occasionally, (massive med changes in April 2016 due to a hospital admission). Supplements: Fish oil 4000mg, Magnesium 100mg , Niacinamide 1000mg, Slippery Elm 800mg , B12 1000mcg, Zinc 50mg, B6 100mg, Vitamin D 2000IU, Calcium 1200mg, P5P 100mg, Vitamin C 2000mg, Vitamin E 400IU Link to comment
btdt Posted November 15, 2014 Author Share Posted November 15, 2014 Thanks Calithebold seems your the only person reading my posts these days. I am sorry to hear there was not follow up and hope your neck has healed. We get so use to being in pain things could go wrong and we would be too sick in withdrawal or fed up to bother with it... I could see that happening too. Many times since this started I have been fed up with doctor apts... they seem to go nowhere and can't help us anyway... when they try by giving meds I personally just get worse. Add that to the lack of understanding of our situation... why bother going. I am not sure what this is about it could be a bone disorder or bone cancer I have seen that word often enough l looking up symptoms while in health anxiety panic mode it barely phases me any more... can't get use to anything if you have to. Our species is adaptable it may take a lifetime but we will eventually adapt or mutate lol. For those possibly following my baclofen use for spastic contractions... I now suddenly recall why I don't use muscle relaxants... severe headaches across the back of my head ... down my spine.... I knew there was a reason but had not tried them since an accident 30 years ago... I now remember. I took one dose yesterday morning 5mg I did not take any more all day and wrestled with a head ache all day ... the headache was of migrain intensity but I dont think it was a migraine. I waited it out all day taking T3 and having naps... after dinner I took a migraine pill and went to bed early. Forinal ... or whatever it is called. I am still likely the fact that the muscle relaxants help other things in my body foot calf shoulder ...perhaps spasms in the jaw but it is not taking the jaw pain away. In an attempt to find a sweet spot for this drug I have cut the 10mg pill into 4 getting aprox 2.5 mg dose which I took this early morning... well at 330am we will see how this pans out. If this dose is not acceptable to my body I will keep the med for times my foot and other mentioned parts are killing me... the idea of taking a walk without pain really appeals to me... really!!! so I don't want to give up on this drug as it may be the key... will tinker with it a bit more... and let you know. It could be that due to hypersensitivity even the 2.5 dose will be too much for me and I will have to go lower cutting it with water I have thought of that... but it may not be effective on spasms at that low dose. Perhaps it will not be effective at 2.5... as it is I am planning now to have this be the only dose I take today. That could change...peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted November 15, 2014 Author Share Posted November 15, 2014 PS Baclofen messes up my head... another side effect I will not tolerate I would rather think than walk but the two priorities are very close. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 I took one !/4 dose of beclofen yesterday at 3am when I woke up for the day. I am now done with becolfen I will not be taking it again if I did decide to for my foot it would be at this or a lower dose at night only... causes severe headaches and stupidity in me. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Wildflower0214 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I'm sorry you're having trouble. I feel like sh*t, or would respond more. My sleep, I thought was improving, only to wake up tonight at 2am in cold sweats feeling like I drank a pot of coffee. But, I guess grateful for any sleep at all. Anyways, I wish you could catch a break. Seems you are always battling something. I hope this ends soon for u. U certainly deserve a respite. 2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor..... 5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses. Link to comment
btdt Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 thanks JD I appreciate where you are just now.. tight spot to be in and makes your effort to comment on my thread even more appreciated... peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
calithebold Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Hi btdt, I had the most incredible pain last night in my neck and head. Whoa, was it bad. I can't tolerate pain meds except paracetamol, which really sucks and is a huge blessing as I could never get addicted to them as they make me so so sick. I'm sorry to hear you are having so many problems, wish I could give you an answer but I don't know much about drugs to be honest, just know about pain, since I can't take anything for it. It's really debilitating is it? Horrible. Wish you peace today All medications:: Xanax (1995-96), Aropax (1995-96), Mellaril (1997-2000), Efexor (1997-2002), Seroquel (2000-now), Lithium Carbonate (2000-now), Avanza (2002-05), Epilim (2005), Seroquel-XR (2000-now), Zyprexa (2002-14), Raberprazole (2000-now prn), Crestor (2009-15), Gabapentin (2009-12), Lamictal (2010-now), Abilify (2011-now) Lyrica (2012-now), Diazepam (2010-now prn), Saphris (2014), Respiridone (2014), Chlorpromazine (2014) Neulatil (07/2016) Current medications: Lithium Carbonate 750mg; Seroquel-XR 600mg, 800mg 04/16, 600mg 04/16, 400mg 04/16, 200mg 04/16, 400mg 04/16, 500mg 04/16; Lamictal 250mg 200mg150mg 04/16; Lyrica 300mg; Abilify 20mg 30mg 11/15 Zoloft 25mg 04/16 ceased after a week due to severe suicidal thoughts; Seroquel 25mg prn; Diazepam 40mg CT Jan 2013, 5mg occasionally, (massive med changes in April 2016 due to a hospital admission). Supplements: Fish oil 4000mg, Magnesium 100mg , Niacinamide 1000mg, Slippery Elm 800mg , B12 1000mcg, Zinc 50mg, B6 100mg, Vitamin D 2000IU, Calcium 1200mg, P5P 100mg, Vitamin C 2000mg, Vitamin E 400IU Link to comment
btdt Posted November 17, 2014 Author Share Posted November 17, 2014 I looked up the drug you take it is known as tylenol here ... oh my I would not want to be stuck without a pain killer just for insurance if nothing else. For really bad headaches you could try a cold or ice pack at the back of you neck this often helps me enough i don't have to take any drugs... sometimes I find a cold pack on my neck and heating pad on my spine works... I have this idea that the nervous system is all confused by the two things in combination and kind of reboots... just something I tried on my own after years of trying to cure headaches. Some type of rub called deep cold can be bought here too ...for situations where you can't use a cold pack like on the bus ect. It helps with other pain sometimes and sometimes it is completely useless. Still it is a non drug option which I have used a lot. it may help you peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted November 17, 2014 Author Share Posted November 17, 2014 I have thought about this broken jaw a lot this wkend... I have no idea how long it has been broken other than for sure the past month... It is not only broken but there is a fragment of bone floating around in there just to have some frosting on the cake. I am thinking it could have been broken a few different ways at the dentist when I was asleep when I was in surgery and asleep... or in a car accident where I was knocked out... ALL of these things are over a year ago or more... I can't imagine breaking my jaw when I was awake and not knowing it... that is where these ideas came from. From there I was thinking sinus infections and gum tooth infections that spread and got out of control could maybe be from this broken jaw... bet it could happen. I have had so many infections and they seemed to get worse over time needing more serious drugs for longer periods to get rid of them then if they went away at all they came right back...in shorter and shorter intervals until it just seemed I was sick all the time. I am hoping should I get this jaw issue resolved maybe my general health would improve... as I have had more time sick then well this last year it is taking a toll on me... hoping still tho I am still pissed this happened it could have been missed forever... maybe fixing it will improve my health and life... lets hope. peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
calithebold Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Hi btdt, yes tylenol, I've heard it called that in other parts of the world. Yes so allergic to opiates and sensitive to all anti-inflammatories plus also nothing like ibuprofen type drugs. So jealous others can take other stuff in a way but not in another way. We have this stuff called deep heat, it's good though it stinks, you can smell someone coming a mile away who has it on. It doesn't smell really horrible but just smells unique. I have in fact taken anti-inflammatories that by-pass the stomach ie. by injection and tolerated it but only in emergency because my GP won't do it. I also get bilateral nerve blocks the nerve that runs either side of my head (great opcipital (spelling) nerve) and that lasts for three months. I have a very unusual neck condition, I have only 1 1/2 bones in my neck that are fused which brings my shoulders up and I have fusion in my spine too, nothing can be done about it and have had it since birth. This is what gives me my pain. It has been very painful today too, awful but at least I got some valium for going to bed with. My doc won't let me have much because I used to be addicted to it. When I found out I had a 'past fracture' in my neck I was shocked because my neck condition would have prevented me a bit from a really reallly serious broken neck had I had a normal neck as a fall with a 45% angle fall off a bed would do that I think to someone else. So lucky! I went through the same elmination procedure you did by wracking my brain for all the ways I could have broken my neck. The nurses didn't even send me for an X-ray, just put me to bed with extra medication... idiots! I would imagine one of those incidents where you were asleep would be the culprit of your break as I couldn't imagine a break like that without knowing you had done it while awake. I hope you get to the bottom of it all soon. All medications:: Xanax (1995-96), Aropax (1995-96), Mellaril (1997-2000), Efexor (1997-2002), Seroquel (2000-now), Lithium Carbonate (2000-now), Avanza (2002-05), Epilim (2005), Seroquel-XR (2000-now), Zyprexa (2002-14), Raberprazole (2000-now prn), Crestor (2009-15), Gabapentin (2009-12), Lamictal (2010-now), Abilify (2011-now) Lyrica (2012-now), Diazepam (2010-now prn), Saphris (2014), Respiridone (2014), Chlorpromazine (2014) Neulatil (07/2016) Current medications: Lithium Carbonate 750mg; Seroquel-XR 600mg, 800mg 04/16, 600mg 04/16, 400mg 04/16, 200mg 04/16, 400mg 04/16, 500mg 04/16; Lamictal 250mg 200mg150mg 04/16; Lyrica 300mg; Abilify 20mg 30mg 11/15 Zoloft 25mg 04/16 ceased after a week due to severe suicidal thoughts; Seroquel 25mg prn; Diazepam 40mg CT Jan 2013, 5mg occasionally, (massive med changes in April 2016 due to a hospital admission). Supplements: Fish oil 4000mg, Magnesium 100mg , Niacinamide 1000mg, Slippery Elm 800mg , B12 1000mcg, Zinc 50mg, B6 100mg, Vitamin D 2000IU, Calcium 1200mg, P5P 100mg, Vitamin C 2000mg, Vitamin E 400IU Link to comment
Wildflower0214 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 thanks JD I appreciate where you are just now.. tight spot to be in and makes your effort to comment on my thread even more appreciated... peace Well, I surely want to see you better. And I appreciate the support u give me a lot. I don't have a fraction of your experience in life or in WD, but I do want you better. And am always interested in your recovery. I am getting to reading some of the articles on my thread you posted about FQ stuff. Interesting. I've been too out of it lately to comprehend much, but will catch up as my brain comes back. Feel like I don't know my head from my a** most days. Anyways, be well. 2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor..... 5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses. Link to comment
btdt Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 Hi btdt, yes tylenol, I've heard it called that in other parts of the world. Yes so allergic to opiates and sensitive to all anti-inflammatories plus also nothing like ibuprofen type drugs. So jealous others can take other stuff in a way but not in another way. We have this stuff called deep heat, it's good though it stinks, you can smell someone coming a mile away who has it on. It doesn't smell really horrible but just smells unique. I have in fact taken anti-inflammatories that by-pass the stomach ie. by injection and tolerated it but only in emergency because my GP won't do it. I also get bilateral nerve blocks the nerve that runs either side of my head (great opcipital (spelling) nerve) and that lasts for three months. I have a very unusual neck condition, I have only 1 1/2 bones in my neck that are fused which brings my shoulders up and I have fusion in my spine too, nothing can be done about it and have had it since birth. This is what gives me my pain. It has been very painful today too, awful but at least I got some valium for going to bed with. My doc won't let me have much because I used to be addicted to it. When I found out I had a 'past fracture' in my neck I was shocked because my neck condition would have prevented me a bit from a really reallly serious broken neck had I had a normal neck as a fall with a 45% angle fall off a bed would do that I think to someone else. So lucky! I went through the same elmination procedure you did by wracking my brain for all the ways I could have broken my neck. The nurses didn't even send me for an X-ray, just put me to bed with extra medication... idiots! I would imagine one of those incidents where you were asleep would be the culprit of your break as I couldn't imagine a break like that without knowing you had done it while awake. I hope you get to the bottom of it all soon. My son's father broke his neck he had a halo was in hosp for 8 months... glad you did not need that so sliver linings can be small and hidden things like a neck condition that prevents a worse neck condition. I wonder if there are more of them to come that would be good... some silver lining feel due I am sure we all feel that way. I have to admit it is weighing on my mind heavy today I have an apt for ct scan in another city not sure why it is not in my own city... maybe it is bit faster still a couple of wks to wait. The very odd thing about all this with the jaw as the side they say is fractured has less than half the pain of the side they say isn't I do wonder if a mistake was made in which side. Guess I will just have to wait and see. Today I took more pain pills more than I would normally because I don't know why... fed up don't want to be in pain... not today. Today I went looking for distraction and fell into one of my old stand byes baking... even tho I know the food I am cooking is not good to eat... I did it anyway... may eat some too but haven't finished yet. For some reason it did not dawn on me that I could have cook something healthy dah... kind of stressed I will blame it on that. I seems odd to me how I fell back to a coping skill without much real thought felt like being on drugs again and just reacting not choosing. Odd. Whatever soon to have pecan sticky rolls no muscle relaxants today not a lot of pain pills still under normal dose for a normal person but a lot for me... hope to be more present and do better tomorrow. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 thanks JD I appreciate where you are just now.. tight spot to be in and makes your effort to comment on my thread even more appreciated... peace Well, I surely want to see you better. And I appreciate the support u give me a lot. I don't have a fraction of your experience in life or in WD, but I do want you better. And am always interested in your recovery. I am getting to reading some of the articles on my thread you posted about FQ stuff. Interesting. I've been too out of it lately to comprehend much, but will catch up as my brain comes back. Feel like I don't know my head from my a** most days. Anyways, be well. Thank you it feels like a dream I want to come true and maybe it will or maybe I will stop getting sick.. i don't know what to expect either way. I called my doctor today thinking I would try to get in to discuss this but did not have the patients to sit on hold as long as it was taking I am quite sure she won't have much to say still would like to talk to her about a bit. ...maybe. It is good to know you wish me well thank you... I wish you well too. I know it is a struggle it will get better in time it is odd I still have those days where my brain does not want to work... I thought they would be gone by now but they are not so I completely understand have had it change part way thru a day too or come and go thruout the day.. it is the strangest thing... as it makes no sense to me. I am not sure if other people have this pattern or not. Off now to bake some sugar and butter ... just what I don't need. peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Wildflower0214 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 thanks JD I appreciate where you are just now.. tight spot to be in and makes your effort to comment on my thread even more appreciated... peaceWell, I surely want to see you better. And I appreciate the support u give me a lot. I don't have a fraction of your experience in life or in WD, but I do want you better. And am always interested in your recovery. I am getting to reading some of the articles on my thread you posted about FQ stuff. Interesting. I've been too out of it lately to comprehend much, but will catch up as my brain comes back. Feel like I don't know my head from my a** most days. Anyways, be well. Thank you it feels like a dream I want to come true and maybe it will or maybe I will stop getting sick.. i don't know what to expect either way. I called my doctor today thinking I would try to get in to discuss this but did not have the patients to sit on hold as long as it was taking I am quite sure she won't have much to say still would like to talk to her about a bit. ...maybe.It is good to know you wish me well thank you... I wish you well too. I know it is a struggle it will get better in time it is odd I still have those days where my brain does not want to work... I thought they would be gone by now but they are not so I completely understand have had it change part way thru a day too or come and go thruout the day.. it is the strangest thing... as it makes no sense to me. I am not sure if other people have this pattern or not. Off now to bake some sugar and butter ... just what I don't need. peace Enjoy the yummy food I'm down to like 14 things I can tolerate this last month or so. None of which is yummy food. What I wouldn't give for a milkshake! Haha 2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor..... 5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses. Link to comment
Muddles Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I really hope you manage to get your jaw fixed soon. It must be so painful. Thinking of you. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
btdt Posted November 20, 2014 Author Share Posted November 20, 2014 thanks JD I appreciate where you are just now.. tight spot to be in and makes your effort to comment on my thread even more appreciated... peaceWell, I surely want to see you better. And I appreciate the support u give me a lot. I don't have a fraction of your experience in life or in WD, but I do want you better. And am always interested in your recovery. I am getting to reading some of the articles on my thread you posted about FQ stuff. Interesting. I've been too out of it lately to comprehend much, but will catch up as my brain comes back. Feel like I don't know my head from my a** most days. Anyways, be well. Thank you it feels like a dream I want to come true and maybe it will or maybe I will stop getting sick.. i don't know what to expect either way. I called my doctor today thinking I would try to get in to discuss this but did not have the patients to sit on hold as long as it was taking I am quite sure she won't have much to say still would like to talk to her about a bit. ...maybe.It is good to know you wish me well thank you... I wish you well too. I know it is a struggle it will get better in time it is odd I still have those days where my brain does not want to work... I thought they would be gone by now but they are not so I completely understand have had it change part way thru a day too or come and go thruout the day.. it is the strangest thing... as it makes no sense to me. I am not sure if other people have this pattern or not. Off now to bake some sugar and butter ... just what I don't need. peace Enjoy the yummy food I'm down to like 14 things I can tolerate this last month or so. None of which is yummy food. What I wouldn't give for a milkshake! Haha Thanks it did not turn out that well... I bake as a form of coping... then give it away if others in the house don't eat it or if like this time the recipe is much larger then I thought. Still it gave me something to think about and do.. sometimes I bite off more than I can really chew... this time I did it again. I know what is it is like to not be able to eat much and I do feel sorry for you... at one point I could eat only boiled veggies ensure and pediasure... I am very happy those days are gone... I can eat now most things. I am still careful but it is nice to be able to eat. I hope you can have that milkshake soon. I wish you peace. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted November 20, 2014 Author Share Posted November 20, 2014 I really hope you manage to get your jaw fixed soon. It must be so painful. Thinking of you. It is the same pain I have had for ages... so for me it is normal.. I have been told it was arthritis and a ton of other things ... as there were a ton of associated things I now think were related... waking with a sore head feeling Iike I was hit with a bat... that got me to an eye doc that day as it was thought to be arteritis inflamed arteries... could have been the jaw... I still don't know how infections play into this but bet they do... who knows maybe that one bit of bone in there has not blood flow and is rotting away causing infections... I know so gross to think of.. because of these ongoing infections I have stomach problems from antibiotics ... bad enough I put of going to the doc when I knew it was probable... and I did need them. I now try everything else first including garlic organo oil echinachea ect... but at the end of the day it is always antibiotics. I do have pain pills but have to cut them up and be so very careful with them as my doc will not give them to me... there are days and I do not know what causes the very bad days but there are days I have headaches I cannot deal with ...for those days I have a boss pain pills which have codeine and a type of drug used to knock you out in surgery... and it does work. I wonder if it is one of those Michael Jackson drugs.. can't recall the name know it is a barbituate is all I recall... I have been dealing with this a long time that I know. I use heat cold rubs ect... last resort is pills until I get too sick then back tot he doc very high pain days there are those pills. I can't imagine my life without this pain... without the idea of the fear of it.. i don't go to buy food without a pill for emergency... there is always one on my person as I cannot stand it. It will be interesting to see how much of the pain is the jaw how much is arthritis how much is something else... even if it can be fixed at this late date I am sure there is damage due to the lack of care at this point... it may well be the pain stays no matter what they do... what scares me is that it gets worse. This is actually just tiny bit too much for me to process... I just can't manage it...but I am trying. peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted November 22, 2014 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 Had a couple days rest trying to beat the infection I knew I had gave up got the antibiotics it has only been 3wks since the last ones. It is almost continual at this point. I get to a point where I can't function and I know I have let it go too long it really affects my thinking... should be better in a few days I hope thinking a bit better already but still know I am not really clicking well in the brain. It will come soon I hope. peace all WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Muddles Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Sorry btdt - I really wish you didn't have that horrid pain. How do you get on with antibiotics? I have a lot of head pain/pressure - do you think I would be ok with painkillers? I'm scared to take anything. I hope this gets sorted for you soon. Pain on top of everything else is just not good. Thinking of you. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
btdt Posted November 23, 2014 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 I can take tylenol #3 I take them in 1/4 pieces sometimes a half if I know I need it... I have a drug for bad mirgraines very strong I use to use it at !/4 dose too but last time I took it just took it all and survived it. Head was too far gone by then. I do ok with the T3... I can't take perkacet however that is spelled.. they make me stupid. I can take amoxicillin I know old but it often works for me. NO quinolins... they were a mistake. I can't recall the name of the stronger antibiotic that actually stopped this infection for almost 2 months... but I have it in records it left me with colitis like reaction I am still on ppi to treat. So I don't want it again if I can avoid it. Early on when I had the head pressure I used one ibuprofen in the mornings... I was not suppose to take any drug that could cause bleeding as I had a gastro bleed before... but I did it for a long time one the lowest dose you can get...one each morning. Cold packs saved me much of the time put them on your neck or where you head hurts or both if you have a few. Heat on the spine and cold on the neck seemed to confuse the pain and give me some relief... soaking my feet too in cool water I tried it ..but really when you feel like crap putting your feet in cold water sounds like the last thing you want to do... like I have one nerve left and that one may break me... or my cover calm... but cool helped sometimes. I also put my head over a pot of steam.. it was not great till I added cider vinegar... that braggs you know that everybody swears by... I found it helped but stinks quit bad and burns too.. so water it down... first time did it full force... not good. It did help clear my sinus the few times I tried it. But first line of offence first choice would be cold pack... often works no mess little work. Right up my alley. After that (I say ibuprofen but it was the brand name Advil) I tried the kid one too grape don't do it ...had a reaction to it never again for that one. Kid doses are good for me it seems. If your going try anything go low... the lowest dose of advil I could get that had a coating. The grape did not have a coating. I tried the netty pot too and did not find it helpful whatever is bugging my head could not be reached by the netty pot and once it seemed to go to the back of head and caused headaches I never used it again I have tried the mist too... ocean mist sprays into the nose did not like that either. Cold rub I know it sound not nice but I have on occasion put it all threw my hair and laid down... and yes it was a mess but it did help. Desperate times call for desperate measures sometimes... I sleep alone so can get away with this sort of thing in the middle of the night. Gargling with salt or listerine... sometimes helped not usually but it made me feel better. I actually prefer warm water to salt water but if there is a soar throat salt is good. That is what I can think of now... I can't say any of it is good for you but hopefully they won't hurt you. peace to you.... WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted November 23, 2014 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 As the infection eases the pain eases with it better than it was already. I am coming out of it... and very glad to be hungry and actually looked forward to eating not enough to cook much but a salad went down well. Soon I will be good. as good as I get. peace all WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted November 23, 2014 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 Muddles steroid nasal spray... yes it will mess you up and not really worth it for me even now it is a very last resort ..it is an bad option but it is an option... it means compromising other things like healing and I would not recommend it but I have used if when sinus infections which I have a lot ... get really out of hand. I hate it. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Wolfhound Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I just wanted to say hello..... Put on trazadone for 8 weeks. Psychic akathisia started on 100 mg. Not a single doctor believed me telling me it is all anxiety in my head. Terrible suicidal urges. Got voluntary hospitalised. Acknoledged adverse reaction, put me off cold turkey. Instalated mirtazapine to block the reaction of trazadone. 5 weeks on mirtazapine.acathisia worsened, suicidal, homicidal urges. Nobody believed. Finally they stopped mirtazapine cold turkey. My heighest dose of trazadone was 200 mg, of mirtazapine 30 mg. Since the c/t, suicidal, acathisia continuing. tried promethazine for sleep. Tried atarax. Currently taking klonopin for 10 days. Good for sleep, but my condition worsening. Unable to tell if it is klonopin or a bad wave. In the former hospital i took twice gabapentin. It should be all my medication. i was offered promethazin for sleep 25 mg and also small amount of quetiapine. Both are antipsychotics, even if ptomethszin very weak. Terribly afraid. Link to comment
Wildflower0214 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I hope u feel better soon. Too much sickness. Pisses me off for u. Lol 2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor..... 5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses. Link to comment
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