Athena Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Btdt I'm glad you could at least have a good sleep, I wish you the same for tonight, and that you feel better overall. Me too I sometimes wish I would live in a warmer place... Crazy Canadian January. Healing wishes your way. A. 2000-2001: Effexor 2005-2012: Celexa, Zoloft, Effexor, desipramin, Wellbutrin, mirtazepin, Lamictal, Remeron, Abilify, nortriptylin, Cipralex, Cymbalta, and others I don't remember. Really bad side effects to all. Sept-Nov 2012: Paxil 20mg, Wellbutrin 100mg, Imovane 5mg Nov 2012: Paxil 20mg --> 10mg Dec 2012: Paxil 10mg-->0; 1 week later: HUGE WD symptoms. Started to get informed on the internet and back to 10mg Paxil. Dec 2012-Jan 2013: Paxil 10mg, Wellbutrin 100mg, Imovane 2.5mg End Jan 2013: P 9mg, W 100mg, I 2.0mg Feb 2013: P 8mg, W 100mg, I 1.5mg April 2013: P 7mg, W 100mg, I 1.25mg May 2013: P 7mg, W 90mg, I 1mg June 2013: P 7mg, W 80mg, I 0mg July 1/2013: P 7, W 70 July 22/2013: P 7, W 60 Aug 2013: P 7, W 50 Sept 2013: P 6.1, W 50 Oct 2013: P up to 6.3, W 50 Nov 2013: P 6.2 to 5.9, W 50 Dec 2013: P 5.9, W 40 Jan 2014: P 5.3, W40 Feb 2014: P 5.3, W 30 March-April 2014: P 5.3, W 26 May 2014: P 5.3, W 20 June 2014: P 5.3 W 15 July 2014: P 5.3, W 14 Aug 2014: P 5.3, W up to 15 Sept 2014: P 5.3, W 14 Oct 2014: P 4.8, W 14 Nov 2014: P 4.3, W 14 Dec 2014-Jan 2015: P 3.9, W 14 Feb 2015: P 3.9, W 12 March 2015: P 3.6, W 12 April-May 2015: P 3.3, W 12 June 2015: P 3.3, W 10 July 2015: P 3.3, W 8 Aug-Sept 2015: P 3.3, W 6 Oct 2015: P 3.0, W 6 Nov 2015: P 2.7, W 6 Dec 2015: P 2.4, W 6 Jan-Feb 2016: P 2.4, W 5 March 2016: P 2.2, W 5 April 2016: P 2.2, W 4 May-June 2016: P 2.2, W 3 July 2016: P 2.2, W 2 Aug 2016: P 2.2, W 1 Sept 2016: P 2.2, W 0!! Oct 2016: P 2.0 Nov 2016-Jan 2017: P 1.8 Feb-Mar 2017: P 1.9 April-May 2017: P 1.8 June 2017: P 1.6 July-Dec 2017: P 1.5 Jan-April 2018: P 1.6 Others: Cytomel 25mcg (thyroid), vit. C, vit D, Omega-3 fish oil, Magnesium bisglycinate , Melatonin 1mg, 81mg Aspirin, Milk peptides, L-theanine, Valericalm tincture mix, scullcap tincture, Suan Zao Ren (jujube seeds) Link to comment
btdt Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 Btdt I'm glad you could at least have a good sleep, I wish you the same for tonight, and that you feel better overall. Me too I sometimes wish I would live in a warmer place... Crazy Canadian January. Healing wishes your way. A. I do sleep a lot off and on generally it means I am getting what they have been calling the "flu" again. I just got up about 2 hours ago... I crashed hard at 6pm... so not expecting much in the way of sleep but I will try as one never knows lately in the flu times I can sleep 24/7 Not good to have those symptoms but for somebody like me who has lost so much sleep in these past years I will take any sleep even sick sleep seems like a blessing to me. Thanks you for stopping by Athena and thank you for the well wishes. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 I just learned about Arrow mans reaction to cipro and like drugs one of the like drugs sounded like one I had a reaction to after the car accident... http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/7761-aeroman-hello-from-aeroman/ Just making a note to myself about this so I don't forget. The one I took was generic but my doc said it was levaquin...substitute but call nor floxin or something like that. So for the rest of our lives we have to stay away from certain drugs but which drugs? How do we find out... then get a medical alert bracelet for said drugs??? How do we do this? WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
UnfoldingSky Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 I just learned about Arrow mans reaction to cipro and like drugs one of the like drugs sounded like one I had a reaction to after the car accident... http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/7761-aeroman-hello-from-aeroman/ Just making a note to myself about this so I don't forget. The one I took was generic but my doc said it was levaquin...substitute but call nor floxin or something like that. So for the rest of our lives we have to stay away from certain drugs but which drugs? How do we find out... then get a medical alert bracelet for said drugs??? How do we do this? Not to be a downer, but, I had a medic alert bracelet due to another health condition I may have (long story) and I found out there is no legal requirement that they check them in hospital where I live. It may be better than having nothing but they unfortunately won't prevent every possible drug situation. I naively admitted myself to hospital thinking they'd fix the drug reaction problems I had had..Bad move...Wore the bracelet there for over a month, and was reporting adverse effects from drugs they were giving me, finally near the end of my stay a nurse asked me about it. I would look into advance directives, I tried to but had a hard time last time as I was so spaced out, I don't think they are foolproof either, but worth trying if not much money. They may be taken more seriously. Also if you can pull this off get the drugs you are most afraid of and definitely don't want to ever take under any circumstance listed in your medical file as being drugs you are allergic to. Also someone posted this site a little while ago, I haven't validated all of it so do do your own research but it talks about which antibiotics are the most dangerous generally (for everyone, not just withdrawal people): http://thepeopleschemist.com/drug-rep-exposes-antibiotics-risks-outweigh-benefits-you-have-alternatives/ Please note sometimes people are allergic to the ABs they list as safe, individuals will vary on how they react to them. I'd think maybe the best thing to do with ABs at least is to sit down and read through the list of adverse effects of the particular kinds. The class of ABs called quinolones I have read can cause severe nervous system damage as well as permanent damage to tendons. They ran a show about them a little while back, forget what program did it though. Cipro is supposedly a quinolone. I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions. Link to comment
UnfoldingSky Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 btdt, I know little about those sorts of results but wanted to say I hope it gets sorted. At least you've got something to work with now, keeping my fingers crossed that effective solutions are on their way then. Yes it is something to work with... I have had off blood work before many times and my doc often sends me back to the liver doc with what she thinks is a pancreas issue or some other thing and he poo poos it saying she is wrong... seems a bit unethical to me to say your doctor is just wrong... but he sure does all the time. He may do the same thing this time. I told her he doesn't do anything pokes around a bit does blood work maybe... it is generally better by the time I get in to see him only to come back. This time the symptoms have come on like the flu several times... all this year so I am thinking I will be pushing him for some answers regarding this... if not my family doc is going to send me for a second opinion to a different liver specialist. and around we go... Thanks for the well wishing UF I wish this were something new it is in how often it is coming and not abating this year and I am not sure if this is completely new blood work results i know the liver is an ongoing issue ... but the others I could check and should as I get copies of all my tests now. I am thinking later in the day would be a better time for a walk ya sucking out already. I really should live in a warmer place... I did sleep a long time last night strange for me.. it was a good thing. peace all Glad you got some sleep. I was supposed to go for a walk too..and yesterday...and the day before... Sounds like the doctors have given you the same sorts of round arounds I get. Pass the buck...round and round. I've had a test come back abnormal too and it was ignored, a naturopath though took the results and told me what they actually mean and said they were indicative of a problem...Couldn't do much with that info at the time as I reacted to everything pretty well. Wonder if it is still an issue now. I hope you get lots of zzzzzzzzzzzs tonight. I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions. Link to comment
Muddles Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 I just learned about Arrow mans reaction to cipro and like drugs one of the like drugs sounded like one I had a reaction to after the car accident... http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/7761-aeroman-hello-from-aeroman/ Just making a note to myself about this so I don't forget. The one I took was generic but my doc said it was levaquin...substitute but call nor floxin or something like that. So for the rest of our lives we have to stay away from certain drugs but which drugs? How do we find out... then get a medical alert bracelet for said drugs??? How do we do this? you might want to take a look at beyond meds. Cant think of the ladies name who runs it but she found a brilliant doctor who helped her with withdrawal and put it in her medical notes that she wasn't able to tolerate medications due to adverse effects. She also has the allergy bracelet. I need one of these too...was allergic to certain antibiotics before this but pretty much allergic to everything now. Not sure how I would go about it though? 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
btdt Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 Hi bdtd, thanks for stopping by my thread, i really hope you get some answers and soon. You are a true warrior, i wish i had your courage and strenght. I did not always have it and do not always have it... I did not even get for a walk today even tho I shut this down twice to go... I sucked out no courage today. Getting out of that first while is a bugger there were many times I was thinking I simply would not make it... but I did some how. I hope this turns around for you soon. Seems I made a post that makes no sense... sorry Skylarblue... it is nothing personal.. I lost the plot yesterday for a bit... just gave up after dinner and went to bed. Some days are just like that I hope you don't look at me and think it is going to be like this for you...because I don't think it will. I made a post yesterday listing the complications of my history ... I am going to try finding it and putting it here on my thread so people know. Even if it takes you a long time to get better... I can say this your 4th year is not going to be anything like your 1st or 2end year... or even the 3rd year... You are getting better you can't see or feel it maybe but you are and your healing will present it's rewards one of these days ... it will I promise. I know how bad it can get and I know sometimes hanging on is tough but I am not super human I am like you and I did manage somehow I am sure you and Muddles both will too. Some day you will be much better. I wish you peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 I just learned about Arrow mans reaction to cipro and like drugs one of the like drugs sounded like one I had a reaction to after the car accident... http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/7761-aeroman-hello-from-aeroman/ Just making a note to myself about this so I don't forget. The one I took was generic but my doc said it was levaquin...substitute but call nor floxin or something like that. So for the rest of our lives we have to stay away from certain drugs but which drugs? How do we find out... then get a medical alert bracelet for said drugs??? How do we do this? Not to be a downer, but, I had a medic alert bracelet due to another health condition I may have (long story) and I found out there is no legal requirement that they check them in hospital where I live. It may be better than having nothing but they unfortunately won't prevent every possible drug situation. I naively admitted myself to hospital thinking they'd fix the drug reaction problems I had had..Bad move...Wore the bracelet there for over a month, and was reporting adverse effects from drugs they were giving me, finally near the end of my stay a nurse asked me about it. I would look into advance directives, I tried to but had a hard time last time as I was so spaced out, I don't think they are foolproof either, but worth trying if not much money. They may be taken more seriously. Also if you can pull this off get the drugs you are most afraid of and definitely don't want to ever take under any circumstance listed in your medical file as being drugs you are allergic to. Also someone posted this site a little while ago, I haven't validated all of it so do do your own research but it talks about which antibiotics are the most dangerous generally (for everyone, not just withdrawal people): http://thepeopleschemist.com/drug-rep-exposes-antibiotics-risks-outweigh-benefits-you-have-alternatives/ Please note sometimes people are allergic to the ABs they list as safe, individuals will vary on how they react to them. I'd think maybe the best thing to do with ABs at least is to sit down and read through the list of adverse effects of the particular kinds. The class of ABs called quinolones I have read can cause severe nervous system damage as well as permanent damage to tendons. They ran a show about them a little while back, forget what program did it though. Cipro is supposedly a quinolone. I took a look at the link - thank you. "Levaquin is in a class of antibiotics called quinolones, for short. Examples of others include Cipro, Avelox, and Floxin." I was put on Avelox since the accident too...only took one pill it caused severe pain in my hand and foot. I should know better but when I get sick I get stupid too as in I cannot think straight so I am an easy sucker and make mistakes that cost me. It seems even people we would expect to know better get trapped. "Many of these side effects can occur weeks to months after taking the antibiotics, so many people never associate their health problems to the drug, which puts thousands of future patients at risk. Ironically, I was a pharmaceutical sales rep for over eight years prior to taking Levaquin." There is another drug I took this year after several courses of amoxicillin that would not take away an infection I had from March till Aug... I am going to look them up too. Seems I have been getting pretty steady diet of antibiotics since the accident there was a surgery and another infection or the same one that never goes away. Hard to say. Levaquin more than once amoxicillin more than cephalex.. which may be the same as cefuromime - both cephasporin but different 1st and 2nd generations Lordy I may as well make a list: Amoxicillin - a moderate-spectrum, bacteriolytic, β-Lactam antibiotic in the aminopenicillin family Ampicillin - penicillin group of beta-lactam antibiotics, Azithromycin - is an azalide, a subclass of macrolide antibiotic Cefalexin - class of first-generation cephalosporins Cefuroxime - class of first-generation cephalosporins Levofloxacin - antibiotic of the fluoroquinolone drug class( I had this one a few times.) Norfloxacin - is a synthetic chemotherapeutic antibacterial agent(after gyno surgery) first generation synthetic fluoroquinolone (quinolone) worth noting " insomnia, restlessness, and rarely, seizure, convulsions, and psychosis" - " a life-threatening arrhythmia, but in practice this appears relatively uncommon in part because the most widely prescribed fluoroquinolones (ciprofloxacin and levofloxacin) only minimally prolong the QT interval" Nitrofurantoin / Macrobid - mechanism of action of nitrofurantoin - damaging bacterial DNA- multiple reactive intermediates that attack ribosomal proteins, DNA,[23] respiration, pyruvate metabolism and other macromolecules within the cell. Nitrofurantoin exerts greater effects on bacterial cells than mammalian cells because bacterial cells activate the drug more rapidly. It is not known which of the actions of nitrofurantoin is primarily responsible for its bactericidal activity. This drug list is from 2013 the accident was in Dec 2012 the surgery I had was in May 2013 I have yet to find my drug info for 2014... A few of these drugs were given by the hosp either in emerg at time of surgery. Infections have been a mainstay since the accident. Doing my best to avoid antibiotics and have not taken any since Aug WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 This past year I have been adamant that I will only take amoxicillin but had to cave when I just could not get well after several months of it working less and less well and being sick still. several tries with amoxicillin cefuroxime & cefalex macrobid yet again Atenolol - in an attempt to lower my bp was a complete psychological disaster for me I took 1/2 of a 50mg tab Nucynta - given at emerg for pain I did not touch it as it has noripinephrine in it. Baclofen - muscle spams in my jaw... another bad reaction in severe constant non migraine headache I broke the 9th rib in 2012 as it comes around to the front.. it has hurt for 2 years I could not bend over the last try with macrobin helped that pain... but it did not stay away. So add to the list tylenol #3 in varying amounts depending on the pain and rarely used florinal for migraines. The last two years have been a nose dive for me. The medications help and hurt... still I have to be able to live in this body... trying to make peace with the situation and the circumstances of my life and live in this body ...not an easy task. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 btdt, I know little about those sorts of results but wanted to say I hope it gets sorted. At least you've got something to work with now, keeping my fingers crossed that effective solutions are on their way then. Yes it is something to work with... I have had off blood work before many times and my doc often sends me back to the liver doc with what she thinks is a pancreas issue or some other thing and he poo poos it saying she is wrong... seems a bit unethical to me to say your doctor is just wrong... but he sure does all the time. He may do the same thing this time. I told her he doesn't do anything pokes around a bit does blood work maybe... it is generally better by the time I get in to see him only to come back. This time the symptoms have come on like the flu several times... all this year so I am thinking I will be pushing him for some answers regarding this... if not my family doc is going to send me for a second opinion to a different liver specialist. and around we go... Thanks for the well wishing UF I wish this were something new it is in how often it is coming and not abating this year and I am not sure if this is completely new blood work results i know the liver is an ongoing issue ... but the others I could check and should as I get copies of all my tests now. I am thinking later in the day would be a better time for a walk ya sucking out already. I really should live in a warmer place... I did sleep a long time last night strange for me.. it was a good thing. peace all Glad you got some sleep. I was supposed to go for a walk too..and yesterday...and the day before... Sounds like the doctors have given you the same sorts of round arounds I get. Pass the buck...round and round. I've had a test come back abnormal too and it was ignored, a naturopath though took the results and told me what they actually mean and said they were indicative of a problem...Couldn't do much with that info at the time as I reacted to everything pretty well. Wonder if it is still an issue now. I hope you get lots of zzzzzzzzzzzs tonight. I did sleep well and was doing not too bad before the accident.. I had a bowel fall down and needed to have it repaired but was still feeling ok... I had the surgery after the accident in 2012 and did not recover well they said you can have sex at 6 wks...lol I still couldn't walk then. Sex has not been tried but was just giving you an idea how well that all went. My own doctor has a list and is already sick of me and my "resistance to treatment" but she does play nice about it all things considered. You know if I were you I would make a list of the common drugs your have not reacted to and try to stay withing the list. I am not sure where I am headed yet kinda feel I am flying by the seat of my pants always with my health trying to slow that down best I can. More specialist apts does not fit into my plan of getting well and not needing any of them. Stick with what you already know if you can. I wish you peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 Food for future thought Do you still feel like you are in WD? Or, you are dealing with health issues caused by WD? I sure as hell hope you're not in WD this far out!!!! Yes, take a walk. The sun is out here for the first time in a almost a week. I'm going on a drive. I have what seem like withdrawal like issue lately and for the last couple of years since I had a car accident... I thought it was the pain pills maybe or the crash its self or maybe I had a concussion as I don't recall the accident so was out for a bit at least. It could be a combination of all those things is what I have thought to be most likely... it is not like the withdrawal your in now. The first few months after the accident were like that tho... like early withdrawal very much like it. Here is the thing I had broken rib was not noticed I ended up with pneumonia ... swelling my lung could not expand. They gave me a drug like levaquin... I just read today about a guy going back into withdrawal from a drug in that family. I knew I had to get off it too as I had very bad physical side effects any head side effects I would have blamed on the accident. Not only that but after that drug wrecked my gut I was put on an acid reducer an H2 blocker that messes with dopamine and then I became suicidal... thankfully I know drug reactions had enough of them.. so I pegged it right away. I think I was doing betting in 2012 before that accident then i am doing now. I know it sounds bad but that is how it seems and feels to me. I can't judge just now how much the health problems are making things murky as I have had many illnesses this last year the year before was not so hot either as I had to have a surgery just to make it all worse. Whatever is wrong with me just now that causes the flu symptoms to come an go put me back into what would be described as DR that is what it feels like a lot... I am not sure if there is something else going on liver maybe.. low sodium can turn a person into a nutter... I hear. I just can't tell JD I know I am not normal I have pain what is the cause... after years of wd pain that never did end I can't say... not for sure for all the pain. did I just make it worse are you more confused... sorry if I messed this up I will try to answer...againI am not sure. sometimes it feels exactly like some withdrawal experiences sometimes it feels different than that but not good... I was better than this bf the accident but I was better and got worse bf the accident too can't say what causes what if you know what I mean... now I am confused... I wish I knew either way it is not usually the sort of wd you feel now. It is different. when I get clear headed I will try again.peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Wildflower0214 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Food for future thought Do you still feel like you are in WD? Or, you are dealing with health issues caused by WD? I sure as hell hope you're not in WD this far out!!!! Yes, take a walk. The sun is out here for the first time in a almost a week. I'm going on a drive. I have what seem like withdrawal like issue lately and for the last couple of years since I had a car accident... I thought it was the pain pills maybe or the crash its self or maybe I had a concussion as I don't recall the accident so was out for a bit at least. It could be a combination of all those things is what I have thought to be most likely... it is not like the withdrawal your in now. The first few months after the accident were like that tho... like early withdrawal very much like it. Here is the thing I had broken rib was not noticed I ended up with pneumonia ... swelling my lung could not expand. They gave me a drug like levaquin... I just read today about a guy going back into withdrawal from a drug in that family. I knew I had to get off it too as I had very bad physical side effects any head side effects I would have blamed on the accident. Not only that but after that drug wrecked my gut I was put on an acid reducer an H2 blocker that messes with dopamine and then I became suicidal... thankfully I know drug reactions had enough of them.. so I pegged it right away. I think I was doing betting in 2012 before that accident then i am doing now. I know it sounds bad but that is how it seems and feels to me. I can't judge just now how much the health problems are making things murky as I have had many illnesses this last year the year before was not so hot either as I had to have a surgery just to make it all worse. Whatever is wrong with me just now that causes the flu symptoms to come an go put me back into what would be described as DR that is what it feels like a lot... I am not sure if there is something else going on liver maybe.. low sodium can turn a person into a nutter... I hear. I just can't tell JD I know I am not normal I have pain what is the cause... after years of wd pain that never did end I can't say... not for sure for all the pain. did I just make it worse are you more confused... sorry if I messed this up I will try to answer...again I am not sure. sometimes it feels exactly like some withdrawal experiences sometimes it feels different than that but not good... I was better than this bf the accident but I was better and got worse bf the accident too can't say what causes what if you know what I mean... now I am confused... I wish I knew either way it is not usually the sort of wd you feel now. It is different. when I get clear headed I will try again. peace Glad you found it!!! 2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor..... 5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses. Link to comment
btdt Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 I think wd can come back on a person if we mess with other drugs... that is how it feels to me but having said that too... I will add ( cause this is not complicated enough already) I had a concussion years ago... it took time to heal for me the first withrawal ct from E felt the same in many respects as that concussion. I can't say how just now as I have more to say and don't want to stop to think about it... Seeing how I was out for a second in the last accident that could well be enough to cause more damage to a brain already concussed... add to it the drugs and wd...added nothing in the way of health to my brain... now add the further drugs.. further reactions ect.. it does not make for good health is what I know. I am a human I have a life LIFE IS MESSY in my case complex. Seems to me it has always been this way ...not sure if that memory is correct how could I be given the life i have had. peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 I have made 45 posts to SA today... that sounds like too much. Time for a break. peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Skylarblue75 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Hi btdt, how are you doing today?, yeah I would really like to know about the whole medication situation too! Spring of 1998 place on birth control pills for irregular bleeding, high testosterone and one ovarian cyst, stayed on until April 2004, told to take hormone holiday, conceived first son 4 months later-VERY BIG SUPRISE, was told wouldn't be able to have childern or would need reproductive doctor to help. Got pregnant again 2006 with second son easily, then was on/off birthcontrol again until October 2011, concieved 3rd son in October 2011(tried many times to get pregant again when 2nd child was close to 2yrs, hormone problems started again after 2nd child, along with thyroid enlargement. Spring of 2001 celexa 10 mgs-rx'd by pcp for complaints of chronic fatigue, irritability and weight gain, stayed on until June 2005, switched to Lexapro 20mgs for PPD, stayed on Lexapro 6-7 months, couldn't afford to see psyh dr. and Lexapro, saw PCP switched back to 20mgs celexa in 2007, remained on until November 2011, was c/t off due to 3rd pregnancy, baby had umbilical cord defect, seemed ok during pregnancy, except for crying jags here and there. Our miracle baby was born July 20th 2012, healthy except with reflux. One month later the anxiety,restlessness,horrible crying, insomnia and the deepest depression ever. That started the psyh drug nightmare-benzo's,antidepressants, sleeping pills, mood stablizers. Nothing help made me worse, doctors just kept changing the meds frequently. 4 mental health hospitalizations, rapid detox off benzos Jan 2013, horrible withdrawal and still suffering withdrawal symptoms NO ONE BELIEVES ME, I feel like ive been on one consistant drug withdrawal for the past 2 years January 2014 slow titrate up of lexapro to 20 mgs-horrible side effects!!, was just rapidly taper by current pysh off to pursade me to try an MAOI-no way!!! Was told should consider ECT Link to comment
btdt Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 Busy trying to find a place to live not easy on my budget hoping a gem comes along. Trying to get my head around it too. peace all WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Wildflower0214 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I have made 45 posts to SA today... that sounds like too much. Time for a break. peace Lol 2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor..... 5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses. Link to comment
UnfoldingSky Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I took a look at the link - thank you. "Levaquin is in a class of antibiotics called quinolones, for short. Examples of others include Cipro, Avelox, and Floxin." I was put on Avelox since the accident too...only took one pill it caused severe pain in my hand and foot. I should know better but when I get sick I get stupid too as in I cannot think straight so I am an easy sucker and make mistakes that cost me. It seems even people we would expect to know better get trapped. "Many of these side effects can occur weeks to months after taking the antibiotics, so many people never associate their health problems to the drug, which puts thousands of future patients at risk. Ironically, I was a pharmaceutical sales rep for over eight years prior to taking Levaquin." There is another drug I took this year after several courses of amoxicillin that would not take away an infection I had from March till Aug... I am going to look them up too. Seems I have been getting pretty steady diet of antibiotics since the accident there was a surgery and another infection or the same one that never goes away. Hard to say. Levaquin more than once amoxicillin more than cephalex.. which may be the same as cefuromime - both cephasporin but different 1st and 2nd generations Lordy I may as well make a list: Amoxicillin - a moderate-spectrum, bacteriolytic, β-Lactam antibiotic in the aminopenicillin family Ampicillin - penicillin group of beta-lactam antibiotics, Azithromycin - is an azalide, a subclass of macrolide antibiotic Cefalexin - class of first-generation cephalosporins Cefuroxime - class of first-generation cephalosporins Levofloxacin - antibiotic of the fluoroquinolone drug class( I had this one a few times.) Norfloxacin - is a synthetic chemotherapeutic antibacterial agent(after gyno surgery) first generation synthetic fluoroquinolone (quinolone) worth noting " insomnia, restlessness, and rarely, seizure, convulsions, and psychosis" - " a life-threatening arrhythmia, but in practice this appears relatively uncommon in part because the most widely prescribed fluoroquinolones (ciprofloxacin and levofloxacin) only minimally prolong the QT interval" Nitrofurantoin / Macrobid - mechanism of action of nitrofurantoin - damaging bacterial DNA- multiple reactive intermediates that attack ribosomal proteins, DNA,[23] respiration, pyruvate metabolism and other macromolecules within the cell. Nitrofurantoin exerts greater effects on bacterial cells than mammalian cells because bacterial cells activate the drug more rapidly. It is not known which of the actions of nitrofurantoin is primarily responsible for its bactericidal activity. This drug list is from 2013 the accident was in Dec 2012 the surgery I had was in May 2013 I have yet to find my drug info for 2014... A few of these drugs were given by the hosp either in emerg at time of surgery. Infections have been a mainstay since the accident. Doing my best to avoid antibiotics and have not taken any since Aug I hear you about not remembering to be careful when sick, I am the same way. Though it's more with other things, drugs I have a "no way" attitude pretty well stamped in my brain, because of akathisia. I was nearly given a drug for a problem they said I had, hemmed and hawed about taking it, decided not to--turned out I didn't have the problem. Narrow miss, it's not as safe as I had thought either. So now I'm even more wary. I hope you are able to sort out what was doing what. And that you get a break! I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions. Link to comment
UnfoldingSky Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I did sleep well and was doing not too bad before the accident.. I had a bowel fall down and needed to have it repaired but was still feeling ok... I had the surgery after the accident in 2012 and did not recover well they said you can have sex at 6 wks...lol I still couldn't walk then. Sex has not been tried but was just giving you an idea how well that all went. My own doctor has a list and is already sick of me and my "resistance to treatment" but she does play nice about it all things considered. You know if I were you I would make a list of the common drugs your have not reacted to and try to stay withing the list. I am not sure where I am headed yet kinda feel I am flying by the seat of my pants always with my health trying to slow that down best I can. More specialist apts does not fit into my plan of getting well and not needing any of them. Stick with what you already know if you can. I wish you peace I have a short list, a very short list of ABs I think I can take. I'll only know when I have to take them though whether that list is right or not., I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions. Link to comment
UnfoldingSky Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Busy trying to find a place to live not easy on my budget hoping a gem comes along. Trying to get my head around it too. peace all Happy hunting, I hope you find an awesome place! I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions. Link to comment
UnfoldingSky Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Busy trying to find a place to live not easy on my budget hoping a gem comes along. Trying to get my head around it too. peace all Happy hunting, I hope you find an awesome place! Oh btdt, I just read of your being forced to find a new place, I didn't realize...I didn't mean for that to come across as flippant, not how I meant that to sound. Please don't take it the wrong way. My family wanted me gone a while back too and it scared me as I wasn't in any shape to leave and I'm hardly rich...Rents here are high too. Too high for what you get, too high for me to afford. I worry continually about becoming homeless. I truly hope there is something decent to be found or that you get to stay where you are. I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions. Link to comment
Muddles Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I wish I could help you btdt. I had a dream that I took Pharma to court and got a huge settlement and bought you a big house! I wish I could make it happen but I have tried contacting many lawyers and it seems I have no-where to go...no-one is interested. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
btdt Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 I think it is easy to over react... the idea of home is a big deal for people who are messed inside their first home their real home which is our brain/body... the space you end of living in and the people you interact with in your space are so very important to healing the first home. I am better than I was... if you disregard recent crap... which could be drug related. I worry that is not drug related and is a progressive something in my brain.. like the old days before I learned about the drugs causing all these problems I thought I was dying of some brain related disorder... and symptoms were close enough for docs to test me for MS but I don't have it... so they said. Other things as I have said relating to immune stuff have come up as suggestions on tests but have always had an easier explanation I guess. I am going to do my best to curb the worry and get on with it as it is likely irrational to start with and if it is something worse chances are with my history they will miss it and I will end up where I end up. We will see where that is. Long ago when I was really sick I kind of made my peace with dying.. funny how even a tiny bit of life will push that peace with dying right out of your head... still it is an important bit of work and I do not want to lose it due to my brain not managing to keep stuff... so far I can find it with a bit of work. Having done the work makes life's bumps and grinds that much easier to put into perspective. At the end of the day we are not all powerful and we will take what we get to some degree and not ourselves or science or even pharma will have any power over it.... there is a greater power. We will all get there some day. I don't understand it completely but it helps me to keep drama like this in perspective. Tho it threw me and likely will again... I am not living on the street... if I were I would go to a shelter we have them such as they are. I have been there before once so what. I know this is not the best thing I could be doing with my life it is not my purpose I don't think... but it is what it is. I am not going to be on the street that is not going to happen unless I choose to put myself there like I did before. peace is worth more than all the gold... and it does not matter where you live if you have your first home... and peace inside. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 JD UFS Muddles I am so lucky to have you people here to rant to... there are always blessings sometimes we ignore the great value you folks are blessing I am glad to have peace all WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Muddles Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I thought you lived with your son? I'm pleased to have you too. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
btdt Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 I thought you lived with your son? I'm pleased to have you too. Did I say that? I try as hard as I can to keep my kids life completely removed from this all of it symptoms reactions ALL to protect him best I can as he does not deserve this. Nobody does. I do for now. That needs to end now and I am moving on. peace. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Wildflower0214 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 JD UFS Muddles I am so lucky to have you people here to rant to... there are always blessings sometimes we ignore the great value you folks are blessing I am glad to have peace all I'm happy that we help you..thank you for helping me. 2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor..... 5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses. Link to comment
btdt Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 I thought you lived with your son? I'm pleased to have you too. Did I say that? I try as hard as I can to keep my kids life completely removed from this all of it symptoms reactions ALL to protect him best I can as he does not deserve this. Nobody does. I do for now. That needs to end now and I am moving on. peace. My son is sick don't get me started yes pharma is involved... if I go there this site will becomes something else indeed I can't go there for his privacy... and my sanity. both WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 JD UFS Muddles I am so lucky to have you people here to rant to... there are always blessings sometimes we ignore the great value you folks are blessing I am glad to have peace all I'm happy that we help you..thank you for helping me. It has been my pleasure peace to you WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Wildflower0214 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I thought you lived with your son? I'm pleased to have you too. Did I say that? I try as hard as I can to keep my kids life completely removed from this all of it symptoms reactions ALL to protect him best I can as he does not deserve this. Nobody does. I do for now. That needs to end now and I am moving on. peace. My son is sick don't get me started yes pharma is involved... if I go there this site will becomes something else indeed I can't go there for his privacy... and my sanity. both 2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor..... 5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses. Link to comment
btdt Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 I know I can't go there I refuse to put his life here ever. It is sacred ground to me... and private. peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Wildflower0214 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I know I can't go there I refuse to put his life here ever. It is sacred ground to me... and private. peace I don't blame you. 2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor..... 5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus mammaP Posted January 19, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 19, 2015 I am so sorry that things are this way for you BT, I can imagine how distressing it all is for you and I wish you the peace that you wish for all of us. x **I am not a medical professional, if in doubt please consult a doctor with withdrawal knowledge. Different drugs occasionally (mostly benzos) 1976 - 1981 (no problem) 1993 - 2002 in and out of hospital. every type of drug + ECT. Staring with seroxat 2002 effexor. Tapered March 2012 to March 2013, ending with 5 beads. Withdrawal April 2013 . Reinstated 5 beads reduced to 4 beads May 2013 Restarted taper Nov 2013 OFF EFFEXOR Feb 2015 Tapered atenolol and omeprazole Dec 2013 - May 2014 Tapering tramadol, Feb 2015 100mg , March 2015 50mg July 2017 30mg. May 15 2018 25mg Taking fish oil, magnesium, B12, folic acid, bilberry eyebright for eye pressure. My story http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4199-hello-mammap-checking-in/page-33 Lesson learned, slow down taper at lower doses. Taper no more than 10% of CURRENT dose if possible Link to comment
Muddles Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I thought you lived with your son? I'm pleased to have you too. Did I say that? I try as hard as I can to keep my kids life completely removed from this all of it symptoms reactions ALL to protect him best I can as he does not deserve this. Nobody does. I do for now. That needs to end now and I am moving on. peace. My son is sick don't get me started yes pharma is involved... if I go there this site will becomes something else indeed I can't go there for his privacy... and my sanity. both I'm so sorry btdt...I didn't mean to upset or rock the apple cart. All I wish for you is a peaceful life. I just presumed you were being looked after...I'm sorry. :-( 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
UnfoldingSky Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 JD UFS Muddles I am so lucky to have you people here to rant to... there are always blessings sometimes we ignore the great value you folks are blessing I am glad to have peace all I am glad you and everyone else here are here as well. Imagine how isolating it would be without this... I was thinking about that the other day. It does strike me as a little strange that now if people in your life say can't understand an experience you are having it does seem a little weird in a way that you can say connect to others who can without even leaving your home... Just picturing the world before computers and how isolated you would feel and how way back when say like two hundred years ago somewhere I am sure there were people in different situations being misunderstood who were dreaming of people "somewhere out there" who would understand them...How something like online support would have been a dream come true. Not sure if I am making sense, lol, I could use some more sleep. Hope the search for a place is going okay. Crossing my fingers there's some total find out there with your name on it, at a good price... I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions. Link to comment
btdt Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 I thought you lived with your son? I'm pleased to have you too. Did I say that? I try as hard as I can to keep my kids life completely removed from this all of it symptoms reactions ALL to protect him best I can as he does not deserve this. Nobody does.I do for now. That needs to end now and I am moving on. peace. My son is sick don't get me started yes pharma is involved... if I go there this site will becomes something else indeed I can't go there for his privacy... and my sanity. bothI'm so sorry btdt...I didn't mean to upset or rock the apple cart. All I wish for you is a peaceful life. I just presumed you were being looked after...I'm sorry. :-( I thought I was ok too this is new something to adjust to. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
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