btdt Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 JD UFS Muddles I am so lucky to have you people here to rant to... there are always blessings sometimes we ignore the great value you folks are blessing I am glad to have peace all I am glad you and everyone else here are here as well. Imagine how isolating it would be without this... I was thinking about that the other day. It does strike me as a little strange that now if people in your life say can't understand an experience you are having it does seem a little weird in a way that you can say connect to others who can without even leaving your home... Just picturing the world before computers and how isolated you would feel and how way back when say like two hundred years ago somewhere I am sure there were people in different situations being misunderstood who were dreaming of people "somewhere out there" who would understand them...How something like online support would have been a dream come true. Not sure if I am making sense, lol, I could use some more sleep. Hope the search for a place is going okay. Crossing my fingers there's some total find out there with your name on it, at a good price... I don't have to guess about this as in the 90's when I was having a SAR to prozac pc did not exist... I know what it is like. I used a lot of crisis lines as resources were small not like now at all. I and I am sure a lot of others here had many other dx and drugs added ...drug reactions interactions... wd... and time served... on and on along with labels and we did not know any better. I did not get a pc until 2006 I started looking hard then still did not find pp untill 2008 I am serious but I could not see or hold up my head the first year... not really I was sick... it took a year fooling around with doctors to convince me I had to get off Effexor ... also to try all the drugs they wanted to try to fix the neurological issues... so I had to endure that... try Effexor again endure that reaction .. then quit everything ct... endure that... 2008 was my enlightenment year... from 1990 to 2008 I went through "treatment" for what started as nerve pain in my leg to a mess of dx and drugs. 2008 I found @ 8 months into ct from E and other drugs all quit on the same day. I had problems looking at the computer trouble logging in as I was confused and could not think... but it was a start. I am sure there are other people here besides me who suffered thru this for years without a clue what was going on with them... I know Mamma would be one of those people. I am in no way saying this is easy even with support but with any luck you will not be drugged for 20 or more years as you have the information now... that is the up side. Even as I say it I know there are many out there who may be as they don't have the information... maybe they are blind or can't read or too poor to have computer access or kids. The problems is in no way solved but there has been some progress very little but some. It does make the world of difference to have some people to talk to who gets it. It makes a huge difference. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
UnfoldingSky Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 It does make a huge difference. I am spaced out I had forgotten you did this before the net was popular. Eek I need sleep...I knew that I really did. I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions. Link to comment
lionofJuda Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Hi,I am suffering like you of pleasureless orgarms, I am a male, I felt the same thing you described in one of your posting , I had improved I am starting to get a little bit of more feeling, Lossleader healed from this condition, how is your condition are you improving, this is very hard please help me Please note - I am not a medical practitioner and I do not give medical advice. I offer an opinion based on my own experiences, reading and discussion with others. Link to comment
btdt Posted January 20, 2015 Author Share Posted January 20, 2015 I am so sorry that things are this way for you BT, I can imagine how distressing it all is for you and I wish you the peace that you wish for all of us. x Thank you mamma it has upset my cart in part of my very basic part of myself I am trying to deal as best I can and stay sane WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted January 20, 2015 Author Share Posted January 20, 2015 I thought you lived with your son? I'm pleased to have you too. Did I say that? I try as hard as I can to keep my kids life completely removed from this all of it symptoms reactions ALL to protect him best I can as he does not deserve this. Nobody does.I do for now. That needs to end now and I am moving on. peace. My son is sick don't get me started yes pharma is involved... if I go there this site will becomes something else indeed I can't go there for his privacy... and my sanity. bothI'm so sorry btdt...I didn't mean to upset or rock the apple cart. All I wish for you is a peaceful life. I just presumed you were being looked after...I'm sorry. :-( you didn't upset my cart muddles the apples were already on the ground when you got here WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted January 20, 2015 Author Share Posted January 20, 2015 It does make a huge difference. I am spaced out I had forgotten you did this before the net was popular. Eek I need sleep...I knew that I really did. I am not one to point out others mistakes cause I make some doozies lol don't give it a thought I bet everyone here has the same issues I hope you had some restorative sleep peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted January 20, 2015 Author Share Posted January 20, 2015 Hi, I am suffering like you of pleasureless orgarms, I am a male, I felt the same thing you described in one of your posting , I had improved I am starting to get a little bit of more feeling, Lossleader healed from this condition, how is your condition are you improving, this is very hard please help me I sent you a pm with the pssd links as I am not sure how much the same we will be. I am sure much is the same... but not all. I have feeling back I am no longer completely numb I was numb in all genitalia including nipples not sure how or why but I was. That has gone to the point I no longer feel like I had several shots of lidocaine in these parts ... it feels just like the dental freezing exactly. At first it improved a bit her a bit there over years... then one day I noticed I did not feel completely numb. in my erogenous zones....but I have one area that is still numb a lot of the time... it is not an erogenous zone I have no idea what that means either. It is under my breasts on my ribs ... anyone else have this? As for orgasm last time I tried alone still have orgasm head ache comes on when muscle tighten and would turn a dog from a gut wagon or a sexually feisty person off sex. really it is horrid and makes even trying not worth the pain.... Interests in sex is limited I think when anyone has a life full of problems it is our basic instinct to see to the reptilian basic needs first... food water safety stability sanity housing .. is an issue for me just now ...sex is like the frosting on the cake first you need a cake... I don't have cake. Even as I say that I think of the times I put all else at risk or sex when I was on Effexor sex ruled a lot of other things.. at first then it became a useless memory at the end of my taking Effexor I could not feel anything... could not be bothered... last attempt was july 10 2006 bf birthday ya... whatever. I guess I would have to say there is no way I am sexually functional... end of story I am sick of it. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Skylarblue75 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Hey btdt, thanks for stopping by today to talk poop, I love your posts and how you keep your wits about yourself going through your struggles. I hope the GI doc finds something, the one I saw early on in this mess just wanted to throw drugs at me, but I bet you know that already. So many doctors I have wanted to drop kick in the head in the past 2 years???? hope you ok today Spring of 1998 place on birth control pills for irregular bleeding, high testosterone and one ovarian cyst, stayed on until April 2004, told to take hormone holiday, conceived first son 4 months later-VERY BIG SUPRISE, was told wouldn't be able to have childern or would need reproductive doctor to help. Got pregnant again 2006 with second son easily, then was on/off birthcontrol again until October 2011, concieved 3rd son in October 2011(tried many times to get pregant again when 2nd child was close to 2yrs, hormone problems started again after 2nd child, along with thyroid enlargement. Spring of 2001 celexa 10 mgs-rx'd by pcp for complaints of chronic fatigue, irritability and weight gain, stayed on until June 2005, switched to Lexapro 20mgs for PPD, stayed on Lexapro 6-7 months, couldn't afford to see psyh dr. and Lexapro, saw PCP switched back to 20mgs celexa in 2007, remained on until November 2011, was c/t off due to 3rd pregnancy, baby had umbilical cord defect, seemed ok during pregnancy, except for crying jags here and there. Our miracle baby was born July 20th 2012, healthy except with reflux. One month later the anxiety,restlessness,horrible crying, insomnia and the deepest depression ever. That started the psyh drug nightmare-benzo's,antidepressants, sleeping pills, mood stablizers. Nothing help made me worse, doctors just kept changing the meds frequently. 4 mental health hospitalizations, rapid detox off benzos Jan 2013, horrible withdrawal and still suffering withdrawal symptoms NO ONE BELIEVES ME, I feel like ive been on one consistant drug withdrawal for the past 2 years January 2014 slow titrate up of lexapro to 20 mgs-horrible side effects!!, was just rapidly taper by current pysh off to pursade me to try an MAOI-no way!!! Was told should consider ECT Link to comment
btdt Posted January 22, 2015 Author Share Posted January 22, 2015 LOll ya they try the drugs with me too and sometimes I have needed them.. I kind of hope he does find anything that this is just wd crap still as finding something bad means treatment and treatment means drugs which means I go for a slide again... nope I would be ok to get there in march and be fine. As long as this stops by then. Fingers crossed. It seems to come and go all this year we will see and time will tell. peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
UnfoldingSky Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 It does make a huge difference. I am spaced out I had forgotten you did this before the net was popular. Eek I need sleep...I knew that I really did. I am not one to point out others mistakes cause I make some doozies lol don't give it a thought I bet everyone here has the same issues I hope you had some restorative sleep peace Thanks, didn't end up having it but like the well wishes anyway. Hope you are doing okay. I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions. Link to comment
btdt Posted January 22, 2015 Author Share Posted January 22, 2015 http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/3713-campagne-2005-venlafaxine-and-serious-withdrawal-symptoms-warning-to-drivers/ I wonder how many car accidents are caused by the taking and wd from Ads about effexor "....Among the adverse effects are a number of withdrawal symptoms that form "discontinuance syndromes," sometimes mistakenly identified with what Sternbach in 1991 proposed as the "serotonin syndrome".[2] Venlafaxine's half-life is only 4 hours. Its primary metabolite, O-desmethylvenlafaxine, has a half-life of 10 hours. In the past 10 years, a number of clinical reports of severe venlafaxine withdrawal symptoms have been published, and for the most part these effects are duly reflected in generally available information. Widely consulted drug information services, such as Medscape DrugInfo, American Hospital Formulary Service Drug Information, and First DataBank, list the following withdrawal symptoms as "serious": agitation, anorexia, anxiety, confusion, impaired coordination, diarrhea, dizziness, dry mouth, dysphoric mood, fasciculation, fatigue, headaches, hypomania, insomnia, nausea, nervousness, nightmares, sensory disturbances (including shock-like electrical sensations), somnolence, sweating, tremor, vertigo, and vomiting. Patient hand-outs contain several useful warnings and physicians know that, because any psychoactive drug may impair judgment, thinking, or motor skills, patients should be cautioned about operating hazardous machinery, including automobiles, until they are reasonably certain that venlafaxine does not adversely affect their ability to engage in such activities. Venlafaxine is structurally similar to phencyclidine and thus should not be discontinued abruptly. If the drug has been administered for longer than 1 week, the dose should be tapered over 7 to 10 days to prevent a withdrawal syndrome (headache, nausea, dizziness, insomnia, and nervousness).[3]However, little mention is found of the possibly severe effects of abrupt discontinuation or postponing ingestion of the daily dose for as little as 8 to 12 hours. Although a patient may have established that taking the drug does not noticeably affect the ability to drive a car or operate machinery, taking the drug in the evening if it is usually taken in the morning or forgetting to take the daily dose just once may induce sudden and severe disturbances in physical and mental condition that most definitely can impair normal functioning." At one point when I was complaining to my shrink about how I was feeling in pooped out his answer to me was to take it at night rather then the morning... long enough delayed ingestion to start wd.. One other interesting word I found in this article Fasciculationsit has a name I did not know till now. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Muddles Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I had 1 car accident on mirtazapine (luckily not too serious) and 2 near misses. I went over on a red light yesterday. I bet it happens a lot. Never had anything close before meds. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
btdt Posted January 22, 2015 Author Share Posted January 22, 2015 It comes and goes with me along with other things. I read it could be a vitamin deficiency but I do react to so many I fear taking anything. Lately I have this and vibrating limbs both on the same one side looks like today will be a head ache day so I will need time out to see how it develops maybe get it to go away. peace all WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted January 22, 2015 Author Share Posted January 22, 2015 I had 1 car accident on mirtazapine (luckily not too serious) and 2 near misses. I went over on a red light yesterday. I bet it happens a lot. Never had anything close before meds. I drove when I felt able when I had a car getting out and away especially to the beach was a big part of my healing since I did not have my own space for all of this my car was my escape hatch kinda like your new room will be for you. At times we just need our space. Thankfully where I am living right now is close to the beach by car...long long long if you walk.. I tried and then wondered how I was going to get home. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Tilly Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Hi btdt, I just wanted to stop by and say hello. I have read many of your posts which are always informative and supportive. I hope that your day is being kind to you. Tilly x 1999 - 2004 Paroxetine 20mg -> 2004 - 2007 Citalopram 20mg -> 2007 - short term Trazedone use (insomnia) -> 2007 - 2009 Fluoxetine 20mg -> 2009 - Jan 2012 Citalopram 20mg (Spring / Summer 2012 protracted withdrawal & related agoraphobia) -> 2012 - September Restarted Citalopram - unbearable start up effects. Discontinued in under 1 week -> Oct 12 - October 2014 Escitalopram - 10mg prescribed. Started on 5mg and worked up to 10mg in 2.5mg increments -> Oct 2014 - 5mg; 30/03/15 2.5mg; 15/04/15 3.5mg; 20/05/15 2.9mg; 19/09/15 2.8mg; 30/10/15 2.7mg; 13/11/15 2.6mg. Holding until March. Diet: mostly pescatarianl & lots of veg. Weekly offal for b vitamins. Turmeric, nigella seeds, avocados, apple cider vinegar, coconut products daily. Lots of fluids: water, lemon juice, coconut water, herbal & green tea (decaffeinated). Supplements: vitamin C 4000mg, Omega 3 fish oil - high DPA & EHA, vitamin E 400iu, vitamin D3 5000mg (Winter only - from sun in Spring / Summer), probiotics. Current Symptoms: chronic fatigue, erratic sleep, extreme photophobia, eye floaters, noise sensitivity, tinnitus, cognitive & speech difficulties, dizziness, irregular gait, poor co ordination, severe facial and upper body muscle tension, head and neck pressure. Coping Strategies: good nutrition, cooking, gardening & growing my own food, cycling, dancing, yoga, photography, sewing & creative pursuits, self massage, pampering, meditation, journalling, nature, cuddling cats & humans, laughter & humour, gratitude, self care, aromatherapy, audio books, word games & believing in myself, my potential and my future. "Everything I need is within me" - Shakti Gawain Link to comment
btdt Posted January 22, 2015 Author Share Posted January 22, 2015 I woke ok thinking I felt better than I have in quite awhile but it passed usually if I am going to have an off day I know when I wake up but not today feel like a migrainy thing same as yesterday took a tylenol and waiting will likely need to lay down with a cold pack to get on my feet for the day. Thanks for checking thanks for asking WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted January 23, 2015 Author Share Posted January 23, 2015 Adding this here as I have just been reminded of food not going down when I swallow... I had this long ago in wd.. for some reason it gradually went away and it came back this past summer for a few days I could not swallow food and I existed on meal replacement ensure... waiting to get in and see my doctor. She thought I was having a reaction to an antibiotic that had hurt my stomach and gave me a ppi it helped but I reacted to it.. as usual we had to lower the dose. I had extreme runs then too and coughing. This is the same thing that has happened again these past 2 or so months this time I was told a few times I had the flu ... once when I was sure it had something to do with what was called a cyst on my throat that swelled to a large enough size to affect my breathing...before it drained. The swallowing problem happened again for a few days this past episode.. I could swallow only small amounts of food at a time soft light food like yogurt. Even that had to be washed down with water. I had forgot about the ppi helping last time so did not think to ask the doctor for it and forgot to tell her I could not swallow food. I had the runs so bad I was using pepto a lot.. I have to start a paper journal as I am forgetting too many things. Not to self I had two drugs that affected my nervous system before this happened.. I need to check this later... atenolol and beclofen... I am thinking this could have been a similar drug reaction I know it is a long shot but not taking either of them would be a better treatment than anything else I can think of and if this is indeed the case .. avoiding like drugs will be a paramount importance. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus WiggleIt Posted January 23, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 23, 2015 I'm so sad to hear you're having this swallowing problem. It is a constant problem for me, and I am sad to hear that it could come back again, even after it has cleared up for a long time. I will pray for you that it is only temporary and that you are able to eat again normally. I pray that once it clears, it NEVER bothers is again!! Be well soon. *I'm not a doctor and don't give medical advice, just personal experience **Off all meds since Nov. 2014. Mentally & emotionally recovered; physically not-Dual cold turkeys off TCA & Ativan in Oct 2014. Prescribed from 2011-2014 -All meds were Rxed off-label for an autoimmune illness. It was a MISDIAGNOSIS, but I did not find out until AFTER meds caused damage. All med tapers/cold turkeys directed by doctors -Nortriptyline May 2012 - Dec 2013. Cold turkey off nortrip & cold switched to desipramine -Desipramine Jan 2014 - Oct. 29, 2014 (rapid taper/cold turkey) -Lorazepam 1 mg per night during 2011 -Lorazepam 1 mg per month in 2012 (or less) -Lorazepam on & off, Dec 2013 through Aug 2014. Didn't exceed 3x a week -Lorazepam again in Oct. 2014 to help get off of desipramine. Last dose lzpam was 1 mg, Nov. 2, 2014. Immediate paradoxical reactions to benzos after stopping TCAs -First muscle/dystonia side effects started on nortriptyline, but docs too stupid to figure it out. On desipramine, muscle tremors & rigidity worsened -Two weeks after I got off all meds, I developed full-blown TD. Tardive dystonia, dyskinesia, myoclonic jerks ALL over body, ribcage wiggles, facial tics, twitching tongue & fingers, tremors/twitches of arms, legs, cognitive impairment, throat muscles semi-paralyzed & unable to swallow solid food, brain zaps, ears ring, dizzy, everything looks too far away, insomnia, numbness & electric shocks everywhere when I try to fall asleep, jerk awake from sleep with big, gasping breaths, wake with terrors & tremors, severely depressed. NO HISTORY OF DEPRESSION, EVER. Meds CREATED it. -Month 7: hair falling out; no vision improvement; still tardive dystonia; facial & tongue tics returned -Month 8: back to acute, incl. Grand Mal seizure-like episodes. New mental torment, PGAD, worse insomnia -Month 9: tardive dystonia worse, dyskinesia returned. Unable to breathe well due to dystonia in stomach, chest, throat -Month 13: Back to acute, brain zaps back, developed eczema & stomach problems. Left leg no longer works right due to dystonia, meaning both legs now damaged -7 years off: Huge improvements, incl. improved dystonia Link to comment
btdt Posted January 24, 2015 Author Share Posted January 24, 2015 Today I was back to needing a nap... sleep is good I will keep taking it but yesterday I had no nap and it was so good today I am back at it. I have a type of fatigue these last few months it hits a lot with the "flu" I supposedly have had and it is back. I am not coughing as bad as the other times but not feeling so hot after one good day I was expecting to be on the "up" side again at least for awhile and it could well be this is the last day and tomorrow will be the first of many good days. I am having some odd symptoms this year off and on they come and go but seem to be kind of the same some of them remind me of withdrawal or the pooped out time I had before getting off Effexor. Since my symptoms at that time reminded the specialist of MS I have been researching MS lately. What he said after testing is I did not meet the criteria at that time. I am wondering if MS is actually what is wrong with me I have many of the symptoms. I hope not as I don't want it. It would be nice to have some treatment tho if that is what it is as this is almost 2 months of constant symptoms. Could be many other things I am sure and having googlitis is not new to me... I have had it since I got a computer in 2006. Now it seems impossible to live without a computer... before 2006 I was way to busy working to have time for a computer now it seems what I do most after sleep... That is my update for today. peace all WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted January 24, 2015 Author Share Posted January 24, 2015 I need to read this link but am too tired now so will put it here to look at after I rest http://www.neuropathy.org/site/DocServer/Medication-Induced_Neuropathies.pdf?docID=1604 WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Muddles Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KLjgBLwH3Wc This may be worth a look at btdt. I know withdrawal is complex and can mimic a lot of different disorders, but I found this amazing and thought you may get something from it. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus WiggleIt Posted January 25, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 25, 2015 If you need to get a test done to ease your mind, it's understandable. I'm sure I'm going through wd, but still getting other tests done to be safe. Don't unnecessarily scare yourself, though... *I'm not a doctor and don't give medical advice, just personal experience **Off all meds since Nov. 2014. Mentally & emotionally recovered; physically not-Dual cold turkeys off TCA & Ativan in Oct 2014. Prescribed from 2011-2014 -All meds were Rxed off-label for an autoimmune illness. It was a MISDIAGNOSIS, but I did not find out until AFTER meds caused damage. All med tapers/cold turkeys directed by doctors -Nortriptyline May 2012 - Dec 2013. Cold turkey off nortrip & cold switched to desipramine -Desipramine Jan 2014 - Oct. 29, 2014 (rapid taper/cold turkey) -Lorazepam 1 mg per night during 2011 -Lorazepam 1 mg per month in 2012 (or less) -Lorazepam on & off, Dec 2013 through Aug 2014. Didn't exceed 3x a week -Lorazepam again in Oct. 2014 to help get off of desipramine. Last dose lzpam was 1 mg, Nov. 2, 2014. Immediate paradoxical reactions to benzos after stopping TCAs -First muscle/dystonia side effects started on nortriptyline, but docs too stupid to figure it out. On desipramine, muscle tremors & rigidity worsened -Two weeks after I got off all meds, I developed full-blown TD. Tardive dystonia, dyskinesia, myoclonic jerks ALL over body, ribcage wiggles, facial tics, twitching tongue & fingers, tremors/twitches of arms, legs, cognitive impairment, throat muscles semi-paralyzed & unable to swallow solid food, brain zaps, ears ring, dizzy, everything looks too far away, insomnia, numbness & electric shocks everywhere when I try to fall asleep, jerk awake from sleep with big, gasping breaths, wake with terrors & tremors, severely depressed. NO HISTORY OF DEPRESSION, EVER. Meds CREATED it. -Month 7: hair falling out; no vision improvement; still tardive dystonia; facial & tongue tics returned -Month 8: back to acute, incl. Grand Mal seizure-like episodes. New mental torment, PGAD, worse insomnia -Month 9: tardive dystonia worse, dyskinesia returned. Unable to breathe well due to dystonia in stomach, chest, throat -Month 13: Back to acute, brain zaps back, developed eczema & stomach problems. Left leg no longer works right due to dystonia, meaning both legs now damaged -7 years off: Huge improvements, incl. improved dystonia Link to comment
btdt Posted January 25, 2015 Author Share Posted January 25, 2015 I'm so sad to hear you're having this swallowing problem. It is a constant problem for me, and I am sad to hear that it could come back again, even after it has cleared up for a long time. I will pray for you that it is only temporary and that you are able to eat again normally. I pray that once it clears, it NEVER bothers is again!! Be well soon. It is not a currant problem wigglelt it has gone again but the fact that it came back a few times this year bothers me too. I have a couple of things on my mind thinking of it.. I know atenolol damages mitochondria so that may be important.. and I know the other drug baclofen..caused very bad headache... it may well be something drug related.. or could have an affect on my brain.. resulting in the change in the gi tract... who know that is why we have doctors... to run these things by after we have researched the crap out of our ideas and take the printout for backup lol doctors love that... not. I have read about your situation...it is extreme is what I recall and that is about all sorry memory again... I can't retain a lot for long but I think this may pass I hope it does. peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted January 25, 2015 Author Share Posted January 25, 2015 If you need to get a test done to ease your mind, it's understandable. I'm sure I'm going through wd, but still getting other tests done to be safe. Don't unnecessarily scare yourself, though... Wd does not seem to show up on many of there tests I think they need some new ones I know what you mean so much of this they can't figure or don't want to... join the findings to drug use. peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted January 25, 2015 Author Share Posted January 25, 2015 http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KLjgBLwH3Wc This may be worth a look at btdt. I know withdrawal is complex and can mimic a lot of different disorders, but I found this amazing and thought you may get something from it. Haha Muddles I posted that same video here on my fb and on the topx site and any other place I could put it about 3 or so years ago... I know it was long before the care accident I had before I broke me foot before 2012.. I loved it! I also followed it. I have a relative who is training to be a doctor and was running a health site diet and weight ect... she helped me put together a program for myself but I based it on that video I swear that is why I was doing so well before the accident. Shopping cooking eating that way all takes a decent digestion and the ability to get out and shop carry and cook food... I could do none of that after the car accident and it slipped away. I had digestive problems after the accident could not shop .. still can't carry much... my back side hurts... stupid broken rib will not heal apparently or something else is wrong no doctor can find I don't know... I lost a lot of weight on the program I had set up and was doing well.. then the car accident a few month later i fell down the stairs still not sure why and broke my foot... then I had surgery... blah blah blah.. seems to just drone on with one bad thing after the other... I want to write this I woke one day suddenly healed I had not pain any place I woke in my bed and stretched and it felt so good to be alive I thought a nice hot shower and a hardy breakfast and I will go the beach for a run... I won the lottery ...paid off all my family's mortgages rented a villa in Spain for a month we are all going on vacation.... I fell in love with the most wonderful man not too handsome I don't like to bother fighting other women for my men constantly but a heart of gold who loves me unconditionally we have wonderful mind blowing sex and I can't wait to see him.. miss his laugh as much as his wonderful sense of humor. I had a wonderful day at work not only did a child I was trying to get to speak talk for the first time but I got a raise and awarded a special mention with my organization for all the extra hours I put and but the work is so rewarding I would do it for free.... how is that .. that is what I want to say about my life... Most of these things I have had in my life not to the extremes I have written but in a lesser way.. I have had vacations with family where I could have a beer and eat... and just love them... not so nowadays.... I have had love and sex like this I have had work that was rewarding that I would have done for free honest... There is just a big difference from who I was and where I was ect to this and in some odd way I am tired in so many ways.... If I woke up and any of these things just one in the smallest way was happening I would know I was dead and in heaven. You know what I need to start back to that diet ... that is where we came in was it not.. well that is where we are going out too... diet. I am finding it tricky to get to stores and too eat well...but I will do better. That is how these things start knowledge and then apply it. peace all WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
direstraits Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I wish all your dreams would come true...you deserve it and thanks for your reply to me on westcoast's thread went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.started 10 mgs. Fluoxetine May 25 2021 .Stopped fluoxetine May 2022 at 5 mgs. Link to comment
btdt Posted January 25, 2015 Author Share Posted January 25, 2015 Thank you I had a bit of spiral there I was up all night is that going to be my excuse... I don't need one. This is my life and I am done making excuses for how I feel I just am today. I allowed myself the indulgence of a brain trip... from there to now to where ever my brain wanted to fly... in a attempt to stop my own downward spiral I veered hard off the path I am tied of it.. generally i cannot afford the indulgence of thinking of who I was...or the fantasy of if only..visits those two places for years of withdrawal would put me in self pity or worse places I could not afford to be. I am still not sure it was wise but it was a change from the downward crap as I have had my fill of it. Thanks Direstraights I think all people deserve it deserve to have the life they were meant to have peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted January 25, 2015 Author Share Posted January 25, 2015 Nothing changed btw woke up to no change still here same as before. In case anyone is delusional here today... as I sometimes with I were lately. I feel I am seeing things clearly and not liking it one bit. Sorry if delusional is too strong a word for some.I don't really mean it. think I need a vacation.. don't we all. peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
direstraits Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 yeah, a nice long vacation to someplace sunny & warm once I 'm over this cold went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.started 10 mgs. Fluoxetine May 25 2021 .Stopped fluoxetine May 2022 at 5 mgs. Link to comment
btdt Posted January 25, 2015 Author Share Posted January 25, 2015 So not in the cards for me hope you enjoy your vacation ... in the past wk on fb I have watch dozen people going or returning from sunny spots..... with pictures videos and play by play... bah humbug... another family member is on a cruse to Bahamas... no job no money no assets means no vacation too... back to whining it seems lol... shoot ... some days every corner I turn there is a whine waiting I don't even mean it not feeling it just saying words that are true.. I in now way begrudge any of the people enjoying their lives... except maybe the folks who lied about these drugs... got us hooked when they knew they were lying.. those folks don't get a vacation in btdt land... no no pudding either... peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
direstraits Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 no, that was just my wish...no money here either went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.started 10 mgs. Fluoxetine May 25 2021 .Stopped fluoxetine May 2022 at 5 mgs. Link to comment
btdt Posted January 25, 2015 Author Share Posted January 25, 2015 we can always wish WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Wildflower0214 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 This may be worth a look at btdt. I know withdrawal is complex and can mimic a lot of different disorders, but I found this amazing and thought you may get something from it. Haha Muddles I posted that same video here on my fb and on the topx site and any other place I could put it about 3 or so years ago... I know it was long before the care accident I had before I broke me foot before 2012.. I loved it! I also followed it. I have a relative who is training to be a doctor and was running a health site diet and weight ect... she helped me put together a program for myself but I based it on that video I swear that is why I was doing so well before the accident. Shopping cooking eating that way all takes a decent digestion and the ability to get out and shop carry and cook food... I could do none of that after the car accident and it slipped away. I had digestive problems after the accident could not shop .. still can't carry much... my back side hurts... stupid broken rib will not heal apparently or something else is wrong no doctor can find I don't know... I lost a lot of weight on the program I had set up and was doing well.. then the car accident a few month later i fell down the stairs still not sure why and broke my foot... then I had surgery... blah blah blah.. seems to just drone on with one bad thing after the other... I want to write this I woke one day suddenly healed I had not pain any place I woke in my bed and stretched and it felt so good to be alive I thought a nice hot shower and a hardy breakfast and I will go the beach for a run... I won the lottery ...paid off all my family's mortgages rented a villa in Spain for a month we are all going on vacation.... I fell in love with the most wonderful man not too handsome I don't like to bother fighting other women for my men constantly but a heart of gold who loves me unconditionally we have wonderful mind blowing sex and I can't wait to see him.. miss his laugh as much as his wonderful sense of humor. I had a wonderful day at work not only did a child I was trying to get to speak talk for the first time but I got a raise and awarded a special mention with my organization for all the extra hours I put and but the work is so rewarding I would do it for free.... how is that .. that is what I want to say about my life... Most of these things I have had in my life not to the extremes I have written but in a lesser way.. I have had vacations with family where I could have a beer and eat... and just love them... not so nowadays.... I have had love and sex like this I have had work that was rewarding that I would have done for free honest... There is just a big difference from who I was and where I was ect to this and in some odd way I am tired in so many ways.... If I woke up and any of these things just one in the smallest way was happening I would know I was dead and in heaven. You know what I need to start back to that diet ... that is where we came in was it not.. well that is where we are going out too... diet. I am finding it tricky to get to stores and too eat well...but I will do better. That is how these things start knowledge and then apply it. peace all You make me smile. I hope some of that hapoens for you. I hope it all does. 2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor..... 5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses. Link to comment
btdt Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 I made this post in another thread but decided it belongs here as it is part of my history unfolding story. In the last month I have been given a script for a drug containing - norepinephrine... one part of my dreaded nemesis effexor... for pain in emerg. I looked it up and did not take it the doc did not want to give me an opiate. I had tylenol #3 my doctor gives me for pain I take the lowest dose I can believe me I am very careful with it. My use went up during that kidney infection and my doc now antsy about my use cut me off last wk..I told her I use if for pain from that last car accident and headaches often it will stop a migraine before it gets out of hand... I do however have other much more potent pain drugs for migraines that I am now hypersensitive to.. so I can use that if I need to. How does this make any sense... at all. I told her I usually take the T3 at night to sleep or when I wake in pain... I do all sorts of other things during the day to survive without drugs but sleep I need and can't do it with the amount of pain I am in. Next offer she will give me a benzo... yep I told her the last benzo I took when paradoxical on me ... lol I don't think she believes me... I am frustrated beyond understanding how both these side effect inducing drugs with long term horrid withdrawals can be "given like candy" I am sick of hearing that phrase myself but there it is fitting perfectly again... and I can't get a T3 but I can get forinal with codeine... and a barbituate... or nucynta-norepinephrine or a benzo... lol I have had it I am sure I can by T3 on the street if I have to and i will if I have to...because they know not what they do. I will try to talk to my doc again as I was not into it that day... she gave me 20 pills to taper me off she thinks I am addicted which is stupid. I know addiction I have been on drugs for 18 years and in withdrawal for 6+ ...so tired of this Do you see where we are headed by having the truth of these drugs ignored and the oxy story scaring the crap out of docs cause it get so much air time... cause they don't have a withdrawal site to go and hide on and work things out like we do they are all hitting the streets and the air waves... I don't mean to suggest we would get more help without support I don't think we would we would be "hopsitalized" for "mental health" reasons... What a tangle web we weave... TRUTH the world needs a huge injection of Truth... again I know we all try but it is not getting thru... end rant..going to meditate... peace all nucynta new sin ta hmm ya I do that to spell stupidly concocted drug names. I was told nucynta was a non opiate drug - another lie. NUCYNTA® ER (tapentadol) is indicated for the management of: •Pain severe enough to require daily, around-the-clock, long-term opioid treatment and for which alternative treatment options are inadequate. •Neuropathic pain associated with diabetic peripheral neuropathy (DPN) in adults severe enough to require daily, around-the-clock, long-term opioid treatment and for which alternative treatment options are inadequate. Limitations of Usage •Because of the risks of addiction, abuse, and misuse with opioids, even at recommended doses, and because of the greater risks of overdose and death with extended-release opioid formulations, reserve NUCYNTA® ER for use in patients for whom alternative treatment options (e.g., non-opioid analgesics or immediate-release opioids) are ineffective, not tolerated, or would be otherwise inadequate to provide sufficient management of pain. •NUCYNTA® ER is not indicated as an as-needed (prn) analgesic. NUCYNTA® ER IMPORTANT SAFETY INFORMATION WARNING: ADDICTION, ABUSE, AND MISUSE; LIFE-THREATENING RESPIRATORY DEPRESSION; ACCIDENTAL INGESTION; NEONATAL OPIOID WITHDRAWAL SYNDROME; and INTERACTION WITH ALCOHOL Addiction, Abuse, and Misuse: NUCYNTA® ER exposes patients and other users to the risks of opioid addiction, abuse, and misuse, which can lead to overdose and death. Assess each patient’s risk prior to prescribing NUCYNTA® ER, and monitor all patients regularly for the development of these behaviors or conditions. Life-threatening Respiratory Depression: Serious, life-threatening, or fatal respiratory depression may occur with use of NUCYNTA® ER. Monitor for respiratory depression, especially during initiation of NUCYNTA® ER or following a dose increase. Instruct patients to swallow NUCYNTA® ER tablets whole; crushing, chewing, or dissolving NUCYNTA® ER tablets can cause rapid release and absorption of a potentially fatal dose of tapentadol. Accidental Ingestion: Accidental ingestion of even one dose of NUCYNTA® ER, especially by children, can result in a fatal overdose of tapentadol. Neonatal Opioid Withdrawal Syndrome: Prolonged use of NUCYNTA® ER during pregnancy can result in neonatal opioid withdrawal syndrome, which may be life-threatening if not recognized and treated, and requires management according to protocols developed by neonatology experts. If opioid use is required for a prolonged period in a pregnant woman, advise the patient of the risk of neonatal opioid withdrawal syndrome and ensure that appropriate treatment will be available. Interaction With Alcohol: Instruct patients not to consume alcoholic beverages or use prescription or nonprescription products that contain alcohol while taking NUCYNTA® ER. The co-ingestion of alcohol with NUCYNTA® ER may result in increased plasma tapentadol levels and a potentially fatal overdose of tapentadol. Use in Patients With Gastrointestinal (GI) Conditions: Contraindicated in patients with GI obstruction, including paralytic ileus; may cause spasm of the sphincter of Oddi. Monitor patients with biliary tract disease, including acute pancreatitis, for worsening symptoms. Withdrawal: Withdrawal symptoms (e.g., anxiety, sweating, insomnia, rigors, pain, nausea, tremors, diarrhea, upper respiratory symptoms, piloerection, and rarely, hallucinations) may occur: After abrupt discontinuation or a significant dose reduction of NUCYNTA® in physically dependent patients. When discontinuing NUCYNTA®, gradually taper the dose. If mixed agonists/antagonists (e.g., butorphanol, nalbuphine, pentazocine) and partial agonists (e.g., buprenorphine) are used in patients who have received or are receiving NUCYNTA®. Avoid use with mixed agonists/antagonists and partial agonists. If opioid antagonists (e.g., naloxone, nalmefene) are administered in physically dependent patients. Administration of the antagonist should be begun with care and by titration with smaller than usual doses of the antagonist. i AM SO VERY GLAD I DID NOT TOUCH THIS DRUG!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT WAS GIVEN TO ME AT THE HOSP AND I WAS TOLD IT WAS A NEW TREATMENT FOR PAIN NOT AN OPIATE. I FILLED THE SCRIPT ON THE WAY HOME FROM EMERG THEN LOOKED TO SEE WHAT IT WAS I had trouble finding much information about what else was in it but as soon as I seen norepinephrine I was done looking as that is one half of effexor. I thought of it today when once again T#3 are low... I can get buy on sometimes a half a T#3 a day at sleep time.. if I have too... if not headaches come and some days less. I had more luck looking today maybe because I was on in intense pain .. I am thinking now it is a mix of dilaudid and norepinephrine. I have never taken it so can't report on if it works or not.. I don't care peace http://www.nucynta.com/ Here some folks talk about taking it http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/opinions/43993 One talks of brain zaps when she ran out of pills for a short time. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 This may be worth a look at btdt. I know withdrawal is complex and can mimic a lot of different disorders, but I found this amazing and thought you may get something from it. Haha Muddles I posted that same video here on my fb and on the topx site and any other place I could put it about 3 or so years ago... I know it was long before the care accident I had before I broke me foot before 2012.. I loved it! I also followed it. I have a relative who is training to be a doctor and was running a health site diet and weight ect... she helped me put together a program for myself but I based it on that video I swear that is why I was doing so well before the accident. Shopping cooking eating that way all takes a decent digestion and the ability to get out and shop carry and cook food... I could do none of that after the car accident and it slipped away. I had digestive problems after the accident could not shop .. still can't carry much... my back side hurts... stupid broken rib will not heal apparently or something else is wrong no doctor can find I don't know... I lost a lot of weight on the program I had set up and was doing well.. then the car accident a few month later i fell down the stairs still not sure why and broke my foot... then I had surgery... blah blah blah.. seems to just drone on with one bad thing after the other... I want to write this I woke one day suddenly healed I had not pain any place I woke in my bed and stretched and it felt so good to be alive I thought a nice hot shower and a hardy breakfast and I will go the beach for a run... I won the lottery ...paid off all my family's mortgages rented a villa in Spain for a month we are all going on vacation.... I fell in love with the most wonderful man not too handsome I don't like to bother fighting other women for my men constantly but a heart of gold who loves me unconditionally we have wonderful mind blowing sex and I can't wait to see him.. miss his laugh as much as his wonderful sense of humor. I had a wonderful day at work not only did a child I was trying to get to speak talk for the first time but I got a raise and awarded a special mention with my organization for all the extra hours I put and but the work is so rewarding I would do it for free.... how is that .. that is what I want to say about my life... Most of these things I have had in my life not to the extremes I have written but in a lesser way.. I have had vacations with family where I could have a beer and eat... and just love them... not so nowadays.... I have had love and sex like this I have had work that was rewarding that I would have done for free honest... There is just a big difference from who I was and where I was ect to this and in some odd way I am tired in so many ways.... If I woke up and any of these things just one in the smallest way was happening I would know I was dead and in heaven. You know what I need to start back to that diet ... that is where we came in was it not.. well that is where we are going out too... diet. I am finding it tricky to get to stores and too eat well...but I will do better. That is how these things start knowledge and then apply it. peace all You make me smile. I hope some of that hapoens for you. I hope it all does. It is the sort of life I took for granted... who knew what was coming down the tubes. I hope it happens for all of us it should have. peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 As for myself today. Lately I have noticed I am making a lot of mistakes and not getting things right ... not noticing right away all the time. I also have to sleep part of each day as i become extremely fatigued so much so it feel almost like I am going to pass out rather than lay down for awhile. Even when I really want to be up doing things I can't manage it other than one day this wk when i did stay up the entire day. Today when the extreme fatigue hit me I refused to lay down I forced myself to stay upright and fight back... so I sat where I am sitting now and waited it out. I started to not see very well I could not focus my eyes I sat through it... I was trying to type something and kept going my eyes sight zoned out then back in but i don't need to see to type... so I kept going... when it was done and I could see again it was obvious that even tho I can type i can not type anything that makes any sense when I can't see... so it was more than just my eyes it was my brain was not thinking properly. It likely lasted less than 5 minutes but seemed a bit long as bizarre things do. I am not sure what it was but noted it started with the same severe fatigue I have been having for days now... maybe months. I was surprised to find the tiredness passed in a relatively short time if I had laid down rather than fight it off I would have been asleep an hour at least maybe more... these naps are becoming a big part of my day and keep me from doing things. I have had vision things in the past and generally always think vision issues are related to migraine maybe stroke but more likely migraine... I have both ..stroke was only small due to birth control pills years ago... it is the fatigue that goes with it that has me thinking something else may be going on. Ya me and my health events seems I have plenty of them I can think of some psych labels to go with that and I am not interested in hearing them... just in case anyone was thinking that. peace all WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
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