Moderator brassmonkey Posted December 18, 2014 Moderator Share Posted December 18, 2014 My resting temp has run about 97F for years. Never thought a whole lot about it except I really feel like crap when it drops below that. When I am doing a lot of physical stuff it will get up to normal and if I'm really sick I'll get a low fever. I've mentioned it to the doc several times and get brushed off so I just let it go. Still I know how it makes ya feel. 20 years on Paxil starting at 20mg and working up to 40mg. Sept 2011 started 10% every 6 weeks taper (2.5% every week for 4 weeks then hold for 2 additional weeks), currently at 7.9mg. Oct 2011 CTed 15oz vodka a night, to only drinking 2 beers most nights, totally sober Feb 2013. Since I wrote this I have continued to decrease my dose by 10% every 6 weeks (2.5% every week for 4 weeks and then hold for an additional 2 weeks). I added in an extra 6 week hold when I hit 10mg to let things settle out even more. When I hit 3mgpw it became hard to split the drop into 4 parts so I switched to dropping 1mgpw (pill weight) every week for 3 weeks and then holding for another 3 weeks. The 3 + 3 schedule turned out to be too harsh so I cut back to dropping 1mgpw every 4 weeks which is working better. Final Dose 0.016mg. Current dose 0.000mg 04-15-2017 "It's also important not to become angry, no matter how difficult life is, because you can loose all hope if you can't laugh at yourself and at life in general." Stephen Hawking Link to comment
btdt Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 I was the same lately the last two years or so I have not been doing much as I had a car accident so there has not been any real physical activity for a long time. Same with me I just let it go seems for me health problems are ongoing they just sort of pile one on top of the others... I just let it go too. More sanity saving than anything it doesn't go to 95 anymore that I am aware of I don't check it like I use to as it gets old like me it all gets rather old doesn't it. I just noticed I am not officially 7 years out from my Effexor cold turkey as of last month I was sick and missed my anniversary... funny as I put a post up once saying I was 7 years off when I was really only 6 then 7 comes and goes and I don't even notice... gees this is crazy sort of life not at all what I expected... yet it is life... and I am glad to be here. peace to you all WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Member cymbaltawithdrawal5600 Posted December 19, 2014 Member Share Posted December 19, 2014 Btdt, you are just so much precious! What happened and how I arrived here: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4243-cymbaltawithdrawal5600-introduction/#entry50878 July 2016 I have decided to leave my story here at SA unfinished. I have left my contact information in my profile for anyone who wishes to talk to me. I have a posting history spanning nearly 4 years and 3000+ posts all over the site. Thank you to all who participated in my recovery. I'll miss talking to you but know that I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines, suffering and rejoicing with you in spirit, as you go on in your journey. Link to comment
Athena Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 OH Btdt I sent you a PM but you can't receive it it seems. How are the cyst and the haedaches going? 2000-2001: Effexor 2005-2012: Celexa, Zoloft, Effexor, desipramin, Wellbutrin, mirtazepin, Lamictal, Remeron, Abilify, nortriptylin, Cipralex, Cymbalta, and others I don't remember. Really bad side effects to all. Sept-Nov 2012: Paxil 20mg, Wellbutrin 100mg, Imovane 5mg Nov 2012: Paxil 20mg --> 10mg Dec 2012: Paxil 10mg-->0; 1 week later: HUGE WD symptoms. Started to get informed on the internet and back to 10mg Paxil. Dec 2012-Jan 2013: Paxil 10mg, Wellbutrin 100mg, Imovane 2.5mg End Jan 2013: P 9mg, W 100mg, I 2.0mg Feb 2013: P 8mg, W 100mg, I 1.5mg April 2013: P 7mg, W 100mg, I 1.25mg May 2013: P 7mg, W 90mg, I 1mg June 2013: P 7mg, W 80mg, I 0mg July 1/2013: P 7, W 70 July 22/2013: P 7, W 60 Aug 2013: P 7, W 50 Sept 2013: P 6.1, W 50 Oct 2013: P up to 6.3, W 50 Nov 2013: P 6.2 to 5.9, W 50 Dec 2013: P 5.9, W 40 Jan 2014: P 5.3, W40 Feb 2014: P 5.3, W 30 March-April 2014: P 5.3, W 26 May 2014: P 5.3, W 20 June 2014: P 5.3 W 15 July 2014: P 5.3, W 14 Aug 2014: P 5.3, W up to 15 Sept 2014: P 5.3, W 14 Oct 2014: P 4.8, W 14 Nov 2014: P 4.3, W 14 Dec 2014-Jan 2015: P 3.9, W 14 Feb 2015: P 3.9, W 12 March 2015: P 3.6, W 12 April-May 2015: P 3.3, W 12 June 2015: P 3.3, W 10 July 2015: P 3.3, W 8 Aug-Sept 2015: P 3.3, W 6 Oct 2015: P 3.0, W 6 Nov 2015: P 2.7, W 6 Dec 2015: P 2.4, W 6 Jan-Feb 2016: P 2.4, W 5 March 2016: P 2.2, W 5 April 2016: P 2.2, W 4 May-June 2016: P 2.2, W 3 July 2016: P 2.2, W 2 Aug 2016: P 2.2, W 1 Sept 2016: P 2.2, W 0!! Oct 2016: P 2.0 Nov 2016-Jan 2017: P 1.8 Feb-Mar 2017: P 1.9 April-May 2017: P 1.8 June 2017: P 1.6 July-Dec 2017: P 1.5 Jan-April 2018: P 1.6 Others: Cytomel 25mcg (thyroid), vit. C, vit D, Omega-3 fish oil, Magnesium bisglycinate , Melatonin 1mg, 81mg Aspirin, Milk peptides, L-theanine, Valericalm tincture mix, scullcap tincture, Suan Zao Ren (jujube seeds) Link to comment
Muddles Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 How old were you when you cold turkeyed Effexor btdt if you don't mind me asking? 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
Muddles Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Thought this may interest you. I have heard you mention this before: https://www.facebook.com/ginger.breggin/posts/10152680008238580 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
btdt Posted December 23, 2014 Author Share Posted December 23, 2014 OH Btdt I sent you a PM but you can't receive it it seems. How are the cyst and the haedaches going? my box must be full I don't like messing with things ... like deleting messages unless I am in top form I make a lot of mistakes other wise but I will take a look... WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted December 25, 2014 Author Share Posted December 25, 2014 I cleaned up my inbox... and I can't believe I am here on Christmas Eve and I am taking myself off of there... I have to tho I don't want to ... as I feel I need to take a step towards my real life... even tho this is more real to me than most anything else I do. Merry Christmas! I wish you peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Muddles Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Off where? You're not leaving us are you? I wish you a merry Christmas and want to thank you for all of your support this year. Saved me so many times. Bless you. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
WinningThrough Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Thank you for all your support and help btdt (r2d2!). Wishing you peace this Christmas. The only way out is through. Aug 2013 - Augmentin leading to akathisia Sept-Nov 2013 - Citalopram 20mg, severe reaction, off at 5mg. Valium 4mg, prn Oct 2013 - 5 zopiclone tablets, 7.5mg End Nov 2013-end Feb 2014, Seroquel, top dose 150mg, off at 25mg End Nov 2013-early march 2014, Zoloft 100mg top dose, off at 25mg End Dec-2013-early April 2014, lorazepam 1mg prn April 3rd 2014 zoloft 5mg for a few days. 18/4/14 - zoloft, 1mg. Came off at 0.35 mg,14th June 2014 29 June 2014 - 1mg lorazepam, last ever 29 June 2014 - med free Link to comment
Wolfhound Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Merry Christmas btdt. You know you´ve helped me a lot. thanks. Put on trazadone for 8 weeks. Psychic akathisia started on 100 mg. Not a single doctor believed me telling me it is all anxiety in my head. Terrible suicidal urges. Got voluntary hospitalised. Acknoledged adverse reaction, put me off cold turkey. Instalated mirtazapine to block the reaction of trazadone. 5 weeks on mirtazapine.acathisia worsened, suicidal, homicidal urges. Nobody believed. Finally they stopped mirtazapine cold turkey. My heighest dose of trazadone was 200 mg, of mirtazapine 30 mg. Since the c/t, suicidal, acathisia continuing. tried promethazine for sleep. Tried atarax. Currently taking klonopin for 10 days. Good for sleep, but my condition worsening. Unable to tell if it is klonopin or a bad wave. In the former hospital i took twice gabapentin. It should be all my medication. i was offered promethazin for sleep 25 mg and also small amount of quetiapine. Both are antipsychotics, even if ptomethszin very weak. Terribly afraid. Link to comment
btdt Posted December 26, 2014 Author Share Posted December 26, 2014 Thank you all for the wishes I hope your holidays were tolerable if not joy joy.. we will get there. I took myself off for Christmas Eve I had to give myself a shake... to make me get off even for part of that evening no i am not a SA Addict.. oh ...maybe I am. She will have to ban me to get rid of me I afraid no worries Muddles I am not going anyplace... willingly.. Peace all WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Muddles Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Oh btdt - I cried yesterday because I thought you had left! I am sooooo relieved you are still with us! Merry Christmas - I hope you coped ok. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
Wildflower0214 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Thank you all for the wishes I hope your holidays were tolerable if not joy joy.. we will get there. I took myself off for Christmas Eve I had to give myself a shake... to make me get off even for part of that evening no i am not a SA Addict.. oh ...maybe I am. She will have to ban me to get rid of me I afraid no worries Muddles I am not going anyplace... willingly.. Peace all Glad you aren't leaving!!! You are in good company, the site closed yesterday for like 15 minutes for software updates, and I nearly had a meltdown. Lol so, yes, my name is Jess and I'm an SA addict. 2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor..... 5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses. Link to comment
UnfoldingSky Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 I am glad you aren't going anywhere either btdt, though I do hope your holidays in "the real world" are going well! I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions. Link to comment
btdt Posted December 28, 2014 Author Share Posted December 28, 2014 I am glad you aren't going anywhere either btdt, though I do hope your holidays in "the real world" are going well! Thank you for the well wishing and caring.... so far I made it I knew I would question is always will I like any of it... some I like some I didn't... bit more to go still most of it is done. I hope your holiday season went well with more like than not like. peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
UnfoldingSky Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 I am glad you aren't going anywhere either btdt, though I do hope your holidays in "the real world" are going well! Thank you for the well wishing and caring.... so far I made it I knew I would question is always will I like any of it... some I like some I didn't... bit more to go still most of it is done. I hope your holiday season went well with more like than not like. peace Thank you btdt, mine wasn't too bad. Here's hoping New Year's goes well for you and that the New Year brings you the good health you so desire and deserve. And everyone else here too. Take care, US I am not a medical professional and nothing I say is a medical opinion or meant to be medical advice, please seek a competent and trusted medical professional to consult for all medical decisions. Link to comment
Wildflower0214 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Btdt, I'm just interested in your story period. What is your everyday like? Are you able to be social at all and have a life...? I think you mentioned once that you do have a bit of a life. . Very happy for you, you are certainly due one. In just interested in your progress if you care to share. 2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor..... 5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses. Link to comment
btdt Posted January 2, 2015 Author Share Posted January 2, 2015 I got a hair cut after xmass not as planned but managed. I am always looking for empty hairdressers and found one after the rush. I can't tolerate hair dye or perm solutions so I look for that first I can't make an apt and ask they don't have any other customers getting those services. So that is something I managed... I went on the train to see friends for a day... that was something too. I got sick. AGAIN. Coughing could not breath again. Virus I was told again. Under my jaw hurt again I was told the bits I felt were swollen and hurt were my arteries. Back on sterioids in the form of puffers.... which I hate. grrrrr I have had a reaction to them in the past where I shake but so far this time no shaking..fingers crossed. Long ago a brain mri suggested vasculitis but also said it could be migraines... which I do have no followup was done...in the summer a sore head like I had been hit with a bat suggested to my gp arteritis ...something like that. Now this again. I am thinking maybe it is something vascular. Who knows as all parts of the body have blood vessels symptoms could be varied. Who knows I will talk to my doc about it later. I can't seem to eat... a couple of mouthfuls of anything and I am done food seems to just sit in my rib area and not move down... I drink and drink but can't seem to get food to go down. Maybe just a virus as the last clinic doc said but maybe not time will tell I guess. As for a life not much of one I am always sick... that is how it feels this past year seems to be a throwback year for me... first 2 years of withdrawal were back physically I was sick... to varying degrees throughout those two years... third year the brain zaps only came if I was ill... I was not dizzy like I had been. 4th year was good 5th year not so hot.... this year has sucked big time. I have had a lot of infections... blah blah blah I am sick of hearing myself talk about it I am sure others are sick of hearing it too. I have been much more social in withdrawal than I have been these last few years... think I am also fed up of late just fed up. I am well one wk out of 4 is how it seems. ya more whining... WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Muddles Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 We're not sick of hearing it - rant away btdt...I hear you! Sorry you are sick again....wish you would get some rest bite. Hope the virus passes soon. Thinking of you. 2008 - Doctors appointment with stress induced anxiety led to Citalopram prescription. Severe adverse reaction Mirtazapine prescribed - adverse reaction but told to stay on. Poop out - December 2013 15mg Currently on 13.5mg, April 12mg May 10th - 11mg June 10th - 10mg July 8th - 9mg September - 0mg Link to comment
btdt Posted January 2, 2015 Author Share Posted January 2, 2015 I am better with the stupid puffers tho they do not help my mood one bit and keep me up. Thanks muddles have not been here a few days I will try to catch up soon peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
WinningThrough Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 R2D2, I'm not sure if I've mentioned this before..have you heard of Allicin Max? It's very good for infections. It's made of an ingredient that's in garlic and that's it. It's very safe. It's available from amazon. A friend of my said her sister had a serious infection which didn't respond to antibiotics. She took allicin max, 2 three times a day, and the infection went in 4 days. When I had that suspected infection and went on antibiotics (which started this whole nightmare off for me), the antibiotic didn't clear it. I took allicin Max. The pain went at some point. I don't remember when exactly, I had so much else going on. But the pain went and it think it was the allicin max. Recently, I got the pain back so I took Allicin Max again and the pain went really quickly. The only way out is through. Aug 2013 - Augmentin leading to akathisia Sept-Nov 2013 - Citalopram 20mg, severe reaction, off at 5mg. Valium 4mg, prn Oct 2013 - 5 zopiclone tablets, 7.5mg End Nov 2013-end Feb 2014, Seroquel, top dose 150mg, off at 25mg End Nov 2013-early march 2014, Zoloft 100mg top dose, off at 25mg End Dec-2013-early April 2014, lorazepam 1mg prn April 3rd 2014 zoloft 5mg for a few days. 18/4/14 - zoloft, 1mg. Came off at 0.35 mg,14th June 2014 29 June 2014 - 1mg lorazepam, last ever 29 June 2014 - med free Link to comment
btdt Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 I am chicken to try things ...so many reactions so much wasted money I don't have already... I have a couple of drawers a few bags and a cupboard full of things I have bought to try to get well. I am sure some are expired I could use some energy and motivation to clean up and throw them out. Others has said over time their reactions changed and they could take things again... so I kept them just in case ... the fear factor and being off balance all the time with illness ads up to me not wanting to rock the boat on any good days I may get. I feel like a 100 year old woman... Steroids mess with my head I feel still even in just puffer form.... that is enough trouble I need to breath first. I can't completely trust myself when I am on them I get irrational ...ya that still after all these friggen years... hate them love to breath tho. I have a few things for infection olive leaf oregano oil.. echinacia and the cold fx stuff forget what is in it... I don't feel comfortable using them... I know I am such a chicken right now I keep hoping for a long stint of not being sick then maybe I can think it through... without steroid effects thanks for thinking of me I will keep it in mind .. or at least on here as my mind is sketchy WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 I am better I can eat now Today I attempted to clean up some and found some old papers no idea how they got out of wherever they are suppose to live as all this old stuff was put away. I found a few drug receipts from the month of Nov 1996 how is that for pack rat. Just for the heck of it I ran them thru the drug interaction checker yes my life is so exciting I have time for this... this is the result I got Serious - Use Alternative amitriptyline + erythromycin baseamitriptyline and erythromycin base both increase QTc interval. High likelihood serious or life-threatening interaction. Contraindicated unless benefits outweigh risks and no alternatives available. sertraline + amitriptylinesertraline and amitriptyline both increase serotonin levels. High likelihood serious or life-threatening interaction. Contraindicated unless benefits outweigh risks and no alternatives available. erythromycin base + amitriptylineerythromycin base will increase the level or effect of amitriptyline by affecting hepatic/intestinal enzyme CYP3A4 metabolism. Possible serious or life-threatening interaction. Monitor closely. Use alternatives if available. erythromycin base + amitriptylineerythromycin base will increase the level or effect of amitriptyline by P-glycoprotein (MDR1) efflux transporter. Possible serious or life-threatening interaction. Monitor closely. Use alternatives if available. Minor erythromycin base + divalproex sodiumerythromycin base increases levels of divalproex sodium by decreasing metabolism. Minor or non-significant interaction. Creepy isn't it. I did not own a computer then not sure anyone did but I didn't. Hindsight is 20/20 ... CHECK YOUR DRUGS FOR INTERACTIONS IT IS IMPORTANT. Some how I no longer want to clean would rather lament over my misspent youth... or so it seems... stupid Eve complex why do I always have to know things it rarely helps my mood or present living... grrr.... just who I have become I guess. wishing you all peace and if you have not wasted all your youth yet good and check your drugs ... I know I have felt I had to take what they gave me but the truth is we are our own control board... comes from an old alcohol health ad.... "you are your own liquor control board... so wish I had figured this out sooner.. hope it is in time for some of you ... peace all WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Member cymbaltawithdrawal5600 Posted January 4, 2015 Member Share Posted January 4, 2015 why do I always have to know things It appears to be a distinctly human trait: "According to neuroscientist Daniel Bor, a research fellow at the University of Sussex in England and author of the new book The Ravenous Brain: How the New Science of Consciousness Explains Our Insatiable Search for Meaning, it’s because we take great pleasure in pattern-finding." Read the rest of the (2012) article here. I have found, however, that the search for the "why" of something is an endless quest and never helps as a solution in and of itself. Rather, you use the answer to the 'why' to find a solution. You can get stuck in endless searches for the why instead of just living and seeing what comes next. I do it a lot too. I would still like to know for sure if my antihistamine use last Nov. caused protracted wd but knowing it definitively won't change what happened, only prevent (maybe) a future occurrence (and cause me to butt into people's threads whenever I see them reveal they are taking an antihistamine, to warn them.) And the thing you asked about in my thread: what did I do or what happened to jump me up to a level of recovery that wasn't there previously? (Something like that.) I am positive it had to do with trying a new activity even though I did not feel sufficiently recovered to do what I did (the dating site adventure.) But doing it propelled me into a new state and got me to an amazing insight (with help from someone on the dating site forums) on why my life turned out the way it did. And to what therapy might possibly help. But I do not know for sure and where do I find the answer to that one? Who would possibly have done a study? All I have is my internal experience. I KNOW something happened, I don't know WHY. Being ill as you are probably means you have a lot of time to just think and research stuff. Your mind needs something to focus on, it's like a bored child always wanting stimulation, newness, adventure, learning, and answers. What happened and how I arrived here: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4243-cymbaltawithdrawal5600-introduction/#entry50878 July 2016 I have decided to leave my story here at SA unfinished. I have left my contact information in my profile for anyone who wishes to talk to me. I have a posting history spanning nearly 4 years and 3000+ posts all over the site. Thank you to all who participated in my recovery. I'll miss talking to you but know that I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines, suffering and rejoicing with you in spirit, as you go on in your journey. Link to comment
Athena Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Hello Btdt, Thinking of you and hoping you are feeling better. Did you get the ice/snow storm over there? Take care. A. 2000-2001: Effexor 2005-2012: Celexa, Zoloft, Effexor, desipramin, Wellbutrin, mirtazepin, Lamictal, Remeron, Abilify, nortriptylin, Cipralex, Cymbalta, and others I don't remember. Really bad side effects to all. Sept-Nov 2012: Paxil 20mg, Wellbutrin 100mg, Imovane 5mg Nov 2012: Paxil 20mg --> 10mg Dec 2012: Paxil 10mg-->0; 1 week later: HUGE WD symptoms. Started to get informed on the internet and back to 10mg Paxil. Dec 2012-Jan 2013: Paxil 10mg, Wellbutrin 100mg, Imovane 2.5mg End Jan 2013: P 9mg, W 100mg, I 2.0mg Feb 2013: P 8mg, W 100mg, I 1.5mg April 2013: P 7mg, W 100mg, I 1.25mg May 2013: P 7mg, W 90mg, I 1mg June 2013: P 7mg, W 80mg, I 0mg July 1/2013: P 7, W 70 July 22/2013: P 7, W 60 Aug 2013: P 7, W 50 Sept 2013: P 6.1, W 50 Oct 2013: P up to 6.3, W 50 Nov 2013: P 6.2 to 5.9, W 50 Dec 2013: P 5.9, W 40 Jan 2014: P 5.3, W40 Feb 2014: P 5.3, W 30 March-April 2014: P 5.3, W 26 May 2014: P 5.3, W 20 June 2014: P 5.3 W 15 July 2014: P 5.3, W 14 Aug 2014: P 5.3, W up to 15 Sept 2014: P 5.3, W 14 Oct 2014: P 4.8, W 14 Nov 2014: P 4.3, W 14 Dec 2014-Jan 2015: P 3.9, W 14 Feb 2015: P 3.9, W 12 March 2015: P 3.6, W 12 April-May 2015: P 3.3, W 12 June 2015: P 3.3, W 10 July 2015: P 3.3, W 8 Aug-Sept 2015: P 3.3, W 6 Oct 2015: P 3.0, W 6 Nov 2015: P 2.7, W 6 Dec 2015: P 2.4, W 6 Jan-Feb 2016: P 2.4, W 5 March 2016: P 2.2, W 5 April 2016: P 2.2, W 4 May-June 2016: P 2.2, W 3 July 2016: P 2.2, W 2 Aug 2016: P 2.2, W 1 Sept 2016: P 2.2, W 0!! Oct 2016: P 2.0 Nov 2016-Jan 2017: P 1.8 Feb-Mar 2017: P 1.9 April-May 2017: P 1.8 June 2017: P 1.6 July-Dec 2017: P 1.5 Jan-April 2018: P 1.6 Others: Cytomel 25mcg (thyroid), vit. C, vit D, Omega-3 fish oil, Magnesium bisglycinate , Melatonin 1mg, 81mg Aspirin, Milk peptides, L-theanine, Valericalm tincture mix, scullcap tincture, Suan Zao Ren (jujube seeds) Link to comment
Wildflower0214 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Just wanted to stop by. I will catch up on your thread soon. Until then, thinking of u. 2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor..... 5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses. Link to comment
btdt Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 why do I always have to know things It appears to be a distinctly human trait: "According to neuroscientist Daniel Bor, a research fellow at the University of Sussex in England and author of the new book The Ravenous Brain: How the New Science of Consciousness Explains Our Insatiable Search for Meaning, it’s because we take great pleasure in pattern-finding." Read the rest of the (2012) article here. I have found, however, that the search for the "why" of something is an endless quest and never helps as a solution in and of itself. Rather, you use the answer to the 'why' to find a solution. You can get stuck in endless searches for the why instead of just living and seeing what comes next. I do it a lot too. I would still like to know for sure if my antihistamine use last Nov. caused protracted wd but knowing it definitively won't change what happened, only prevent (maybe) a future occurrence (and cause me to butt into people's threads whenever I see them reveal they are taking an antihistamine, to warn them.) And the thing you asked about in my thread: what did I do or what happened to jump me up to a level of recovery that wasn't there previously? (Something like that.) I am positive it had to do with trying a new activity even though I did not feel sufficiently recovered to do what I did (the dating site adventure.) But doing it propelled me into a new state and got me to an amazing insight (with help from someone on the dating site forums) on why my life turned out the way it did. And to what therapy might possibly help. But I do not know for sure and where do I find the answer to that one? Who would possibly have done a study? All I have is my internal experience. I KNOW something happened, I don't know WHY. Being ill as you are probably means you have a lot of time to just think and research stuff. Your mind needs something to focus on, it's like a bored child always wanting stimulation, newness, adventure, learning, and answers. Bored child .. who feels freaked out lately.... likely steroid puffers... sounds a lot like me I do feel immature in a lot of my actions lately and off and on for a long time in my lifestlye with not working ect... my not more flood gates to open... I did not say before on your thread but I did try a dating site too... a few years back although I knew I was not ready.. as luck would have it one guy could not keep his hands off me the other I ended up cooking when he invited me to dinner... eee gad... since I am not interested in sex I did not appreciate the octipussy guy... the other one was just messy and boring... See one mans rubbish is another mans jewel... I am glad you got lucky I just stopped after that it was enough for me. I am glad it was the new thing that started you in the right direction... keep going and thank you. peace WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 Just wanted to stop by. I will catch up on your thread soon. Until then, thinking of u. Thank you there is not much to catch up on I have been sick got better got it back again...both times told it was the flu so either I had it twice or it rebounded on me... and I have been on her whining about it and the meds they gave me to treat it ....but been gone a lot too as I needed to just lay in bed a lot and sleep.... and lay in bed and sleep... that is about it... wish I had something to say but my life is dull as it gets. I went to a doc apt this wk in another city and tho I have been there a hundred times and left 40 min early I was a half hour late and they are never on time but that day they were... was still trying to get my sea legs still on puffers but I can't say for sure the memory issues are from that... think it is just me as it comes and goes I hate not being able to trust my brain.. still 7 years off drugs it sucks. there more whining... I hope to post something uplifting soon... very soon ... first working on my post flu sea legs then something fun right after peace all WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Member cymbaltawithdrawal5600 Posted January 7, 2015 Member Share Posted January 7, 2015 I did not say before on your thread but I did try a dating site too... a few years back although I knew I was not ready.. as luck would have it one guy could not keep his hands off me the other I ended up cooking when he invited me to dinner... eee gad... since I am not interested in sex I did not appreciate the octipussy guy... the other one was just messy and boring... See one mans rubbish is another mans jewel... I am glad you got lucky I just stopped after that it was enough for me. I am glad it was the new thing that started you in the right direction... keep going and thank you. peace I missed this reply and glad I caught it now, your dating site comment was hilarious (octipussy [sic]) indeed but I'll bet disappointing at the time. Would that I had even got that lucky as you! Mine did not go well (yet), 3 meets, no repeat dates and not a single meet under my new profile. Seems men won't date ya if they can't see how attractive (ugly) you are first. I had to be honest and say I was a few pounds heavy because I am, but my BMI does not put me in the 'obese' category. They say guys aren't in hunting mode during the holidays, we will see what happens now that they are over. They just don't know what they are missing by not dating me but I'll tell ya, the dating pool for my area on that particular site really leaves a lot to be desired. Not many I'd really want to date but I'll give most of them a first meet to check them out. (Except the ones who are downright rude in their first message to me). It has been super disappointing except for the insight I got into what kind of therapy might be beneficial for me (not just for dating reasons.) I mentioned that in my thread. What happened and how I arrived here: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4243-cymbaltawithdrawal5600-introduction/#entry50878 July 2016 I have decided to leave my story here at SA unfinished. I have left my contact information in my profile for anyone who wishes to talk to me. I have a posting history spanning nearly 4 years and 3000+ posts all over the site. Thank you to all who participated in my recovery. I'll miss talking to you but know that I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines, suffering and rejoicing with you in spirit, as you go on in your journey. Link to comment
btdt Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 Thought this may interest you. I have heard you mention this before: https://www.facebook.com/ginger.breggin/posts/10152680008238580 I don't ever mention facebook because my past dealings with withdrawal sites has been too messed up with sites closing and I suspect folks are targeted by pharma when they are active in the activist process. Giving them easy access to your personal information to me is a very bad idea and yes you can call that paranoia if you like I don't mind. I have watched plenty of sites close and information disappear too much to ever go on any fb page to discuss any withdrawal issues. I am not saying other forms of discussion are safe either but I am not going to stop talking about this it is too important I am just saying they're are likely safer I could be wrong tho. I also never go to links that are personal for the same reason. My suggestion would be that other people do the same... however I am aware this sounds paranoid. Breggin on the other had can be found on countless websites even wiki and has many books with a lot of information so do a lot of other people that are just as important in my opinion. books I liked by author or title depending on what I can recall just now on the topic of ssri damage and the pharma industry how it works... bit of both here. Our Daily Meds Glenmullen Dr Grace E Jackson Dr Ben Goldacre Death by Prescription a few of my fav I would suggest are the most important... don't forget Whitaker Healy of cours but all the above come first before them. All have information online so you don't have to buy the books to get the gist of knowing if you would like to read the books many have utube videos too. If you would like to discuss what is talked about in the link you posted please tell me the topic I am sure there are many sources beside fb that cover the topic. peace B WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 I did not say before on your thread but I did try a dating site too... a few years back although I knew I was not ready.. as luck would have it one guy could not keep his hands off me the other I ended up cooking when he invited me to dinner... eee gad... since I am not interested in sex I did not appreciate the octipussy guy... the other one was just messy and boring... See one mans rubbish is another mans jewel... I am glad you got lucky I just stopped after that it was enough for me. I am glad it was the new thing that started you in the right direction... keep going and thank you. peace I missed this reply and glad I caught it now, your dating site comment was hilarious (octipussy [sic]) indeed but I'll bet disappointing at the time. Would that I had even got that lucky as you! Mine did not go well (yet), 3 meets, no repeat dates and not a single meet under my new profile. Seems men won't date ya if they can't see how attractive (ugly) you are first. I had to be honest and say I was a few pounds heavy because I am, but my BMI does not put me in the 'obese' category. They say guys aren't in hunting mode during the holidays, we will see what happens now that they are over. They just don't know what they are missing by not dating me but I'll tell ya, the dating pool for my area on that particular site really leaves a lot to be desired. Not many I'd really want to date but I'll give most of them a first meet to check them out. (Except the ones who are downright rude in their first message to me). It has been super disappointing except for the insight I got into what kind of therapy might be beneficial for me (not just for dating reasons.) I mentioned that in my thread. I understand the visual side of things the dating pool was not huge here either and I would never date a person or even contact one who did not have a picture... I am visual too. I can't recall why I started there... likely urging of a friend was a couple years back I closed up the account after I realized I was no where near being ready and sex is an issue for me a sad one. The one guy I dated was a friend of a friend a relative of a friends friend actually the one where I made the dinner the other caught my eye because he was funny I lol when I read his post. I had a smart ass answer not only was he all hands but he had a life style full of people and parties and energy I do not possess there is no way I could have kept up with him... even if his horny intentions could have been calmed by sex... I don't want sex I don't function sexually I know it and so that was the end of that idea. I ended up feeling more useless and less than after my experience so I just closed up shop there and forgot about it. For me that is how it went down I truly have no interest in shaking any more not good enough defective thoughts out of the tree by being on a dating site... for me that was the outcome. I know this is all relative to who you are this is me and not you.... I hope it all goes well for you. When I say I could have had the pick of the litter at one time I mean it.. and after stripping a few years a certain knowing comes with the territory... maybe a confidence around men knowing how to read them... an instinct. Not many jobs do you size up men all day hour after hour and decide how to approach them. I did that in my drugged state... not the same now of course... still now that I am off the drugs and sexually broken... I see so much more of what I would want has turned back to the old self I knew and none of that seems possible any longer. Bit of a gymnastic bout to get thru this posting not sure anyone will understand it... still wishing you success and peace B WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Member cymbaltawithdrawal5600 Posted January 7, 2015 Member Share Posted January 7, 2015 books I liked by author or title depending on what I can recall just now "The Power of Now" by Eckhart Tolle is one you mention a lot too. What happened and how I arrived here: http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4243-cymbaltawithdrawal5600-introduction/#entry50878 July 2016 I have decided to leave my story here at SA unfinished. I have left my contact information in my profile for anyone who wishes to talk to me. I have a posting history spanning nearly 4 years and 3000+ posts all over the site. Thank you to all who participated in my recovery. I'll miss talking to you but know that I'll be cheering you on from the sidelines, suffering and rejoicing with you in spirit, as you go on in your journey. Link to comment
btdt Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 Oh btdt - I cried yesterday because I thought you had left! I am sooooo relieved you are still with us! Merry Christmas - I hope you coped ok. I am not going anywhere Muddles don't cry even when I lost my internet and computer I went to the library and used their computers. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 books I liked by author or title depending on what I can recall just now "The Power of Now" by Eckhart Tolle is one you mention a lot too. yes that is about recovery not the drug industry or the drugs so much not about drugs at all but about trying to go forward in the present... NOW a great concept I first got the book no from the library... there was a long wait to get it and had to take it back without renewing ... so I went to buy it and it was on back order... a lot of waiting involved in getting that book I did learn some thing from it that I use to this day. WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
btdt Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 I am trying to do a timeline from when I took baclofen which caused a horrid headache to when I had the swelling under my jaw... and the really bad headache I got as that all started as I was thinking maybe there is a connection... however I seem to not be able to read my own thread today so I will fold for now... and try again another time... I am too easily distracted... Another note to self can withdrawal flu come on again post withdrawal even years later if so what could be the impetus for it...? WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
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