Moderator Emeritus KarenB Posted December 14, 2016 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted December 14, 2016 Are you currently taking 9mg? If so, your brassmonkey slide will look like this: 10% of 9mg is 0.9. Then divide that into 4 weeks (0.9 divided into 4 = 0.225) so reduce by 0.225mg each week. Week 1: 9mg - 0.225mg = 8.775 Week 2: 8.775 - 0.225mg 8.55 Week 3: 8.55 - 0.225mg = 8.325 Week 4: 8.325 - 0.225mg = 8.1 Week 5: 8.1 Week 6: 8.1 Assess how you're going before deciding to make further reductions. 2010 Fluoxetine 20mg. 2011 Escitalopram 20mg. 2013 Tapered badly and destabilised CNS. Effexor 150mg. 2015 Begin using info at SurvivingAntidepressants. Cut 10% - bad w/d 2 months, held 1 month. Micro-tapering: four weekly 0.4% cuts, hold 4 weeks (struggling with symptoms). 8 month hold. 2017 Micro-tapering: four weekly 1% cuts, hold 4 weeks (symptoms almost non-existent). 2020 Still micro-tapering. Just over 2/3 of the way off effexor. Minimal symptoms, - and sleeping well. Supplements: Fish oil, vitamin C, iron, oat-straw tea, nettle tea. 2023 December - Now on 5 micro-beads Effexor. Minimal symptoms but much more time needed between drops. Symptoms begin to increase. 2024 April - Updosed to 6 microbeads - immediate increase in symptoms for 4 days. Decreased to 5 microbeads. 'The possibility of renewal exists so long as life exists.' Dr Gabor Mate. Link to comment
Rain Posted December 14, 2016 Author Share Posted December 14, 2016 Are you currently taking 9mg? If so, your brassmonkey slide will look like this: 10% of 9mg is 0.9. Then divide that into 4 weeks (0.9 divided into 4 = 0.225) so reduce by 0.225mg each week. Week 1: 9mg - 0.225mg = 8.775 Week 2: 8.775 - 0.225mg 8.55 Week 3: 8.55 - 0.225mg = 8.325 Week 4: 8.325 - 0.225mg = 8.1 Week 5: 8.1 Week 6: 8.1 Assess how you're going before deciding to make further reductions. Hey Karen! Haven't seen you for a while, how are you these days? Thanks for your calculating! I will try that after I stabilized on my current dose, at the moment. It seems quite ugly since I cut my dose from 10mg t0 9mg, from both physical and mental. I am still having a bit diarrhea too, which means my bowel system has been stimulated by the cut as well, pretty similar as the first time I experienced WD a year ago. 2006 October Zoloft 50mg for anxiety. 2013 March Lexapro 10mg for 18 months to 2015 September. 2015 September increased to 20mg for 7 weeks but getting worse. 3rd November dropped back to 10mg 2016 11th November taper to 9mg 2017 3rd March Taper to 8.8mg, then Fast taper start: 10th-8.6mg, 12th-8.2mg, 17th-8.0mg, 22rd-7.7mg, 27th-7.4mg. April 2nd- 6.9mg (WD start), 19th-6.5mg. Failed one day Cymbalta trial, took back Lexapro, much worse Akathisia torture. Keep holding. May 22nd- 6.3mg, June 10th- 5.7mg, Nov- 4.4mg, Dec- 4.3mg, 2018 Jan- 4.1mg Link to comment
Rain Posted December 20, 2016 Author Share Posted December 20, 2016 Updates: After another week of windows, this week I started awful restless legs! This is my first time feel this awful restless leg, I can only lying on the bed now! I tried to walk outside, it gets a bit better, but just I finished walking, the feeling comes back again, I have to lying back to the bed now. Is this can be called Akathisia for sure? Or just restless legs? I am so confused and scared now, what is going on with the meds? Is it the cutting problem or meds itself??? Will my situation worsening? 2006 October Zoloft 50mg for anxiety. 2013 March Lexapro 10mg for 18 months to 2015 September. 2015 September increased to 20mg for 7 weeks but getting worse. 3rd November dropped back to 10mg 2016 11th November taper to 9mg 2017 3rd March Taper to 8.8mg, then Fast taper start: 10th-8.6mg, 12th-8.2mg, 17th-8.0mg, 22rd-7.7mg, 27th-7.4mg. April 2nd- 6.9mg (WD start), 19th-6.5mg. Failed one day Cymbalta trial, took back Lexapro, much worse Akathisia torture. Keep holding. May 22nd- 6.3mg, June 10th- 5.7mg, Nov- 4.4mg, Dec- 4.3mg, 2018 Jan- 4.1mg Link to comment
Moderator Frogie Posted December 20, 2016 Moderator Share Posted December 20, 2016 Updates: After another week of windows, this week I started awful restless legs! This is my first time feel this awful restless leg, I can only lying on the bed now! I tried to walk outside, it gets a bit better, but just I finished walking, the feeling comes back again, I have to lying back to the bed now. Is this can be called Akathisia for sure? Or just restless legs? I am so confused and scared now, what is going on with the meds? Is it the cutting problem or meds itself??? Will my situation worsening? I have restless legs when I seem to have a "bad" day. My cat really wants me to have good days because she lays on the bottom of the bed lol... I hope you feel better. Take care, Frogie xx PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist. Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form) ---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil. Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper. 19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020) I am not a medical professional. The suggestions I make are based on personal experience. Link to comment
AliG Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Just call it " Restless Legs". Most of us have had it . It can come out of the blue even after many months. Many SSRI's and SSNRI's over 20 years. Zoloft for 7 years followed by Effexor, Lexapro, Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Pristiq, Valdoxan, Mianserin and more - on and off. No tapering. Cold turkey off Valdoxan - end of May 2014 Psych Drug - free since May 2014 . Link to comment
Rain Posted December 20, 2016 Author Share Posted December 20, 2016 I have restless legs when I seem to have a "bad" day. My cat really wants me to have good days because she lays on the bottom of the bed lol... I hope you feel better. Take care, Frogie xx hey frogie thanks for your reply! I had one cat before, long time ago, I lost him, I missed him a lot! Hey frogie, it's surprise you have that too! What was your feeling, I felt heightened anxiety and upset stomach with this awful legs feeling. What will happen next? Will this get worse or something will happen soon? Thanks! 2006 October Zoloft 50mg for anxiety. 2013 March Lexapro 10mg for 18 months to 2015 September. 2015 September increased to 20mg for 7 weeks but getting worse. 3rd November dropped back to 10mg 2016 11th November taper to 9mg 2017 3rd March Taper to 8.8mg, then Fast taper start: 10th-8.6mg, 12th-8.2mg, 17th-8.0mg, 22rd-7.7mg, 27th-7.4mg. April 2nd- 6.9mg (WD start), 19th-6.5mg. Failed one day Cymbalta trial, took back Lexapro, much worse Akathisia torture. Keep holding. May 22nd- 6.3mg, June 10th- 5.7mg, Nov- 4.4mg, Dec- 4.3mg, 2018 Jan- 4.1mg Link to comment
Rain Posted December 20, 2016 Author Share Posted December 20, 2016 Just call it " Restless Legs". Most of us have had it . It can come out of the blue even after many months. Hi AliG, thanks for reply me. Is it normal that when this feeling starts, I also feel heightened anxiety and upset stomach? I could barely eat foods and very poor digestion! I really hope this will go away soon. Regards 2006 October Zoloft 50mg for anxiety. 2013 March Lexapro 10mg for 18 months to 2015 September. 2015 September increased to 20mg for 7 weeks but getting worse. 3rd November dropped back to 10mg 2016 11th November taper to 9mg 2017 3rd March Taper to 8.8mg, then Fast taper start: 10th-8.6mg, 12th-8.2mg, 17th-8.0mg, 22rd-7.7mg, 27th-7.4mg. April 2nd- 6.9mg (WD start), 19th-6.5mg. Failed one day Cymbalta trial, took back Lexapro, much worse Akathisia torture. Keep holding. May 22nd- 6.3mg, June 10th- 5.7mg, Nov- 4.4mg, Dec- 4.3mg, 2018 Jan- 4.1mg Link to comment
Yubyub65 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Not sure if this was mentioned in the thread. Nexium doubles serum Lexapro in blood. Omeprazole around 40% and protonix the least as they compete for the same enzyme pathway. I would avoid all PPI as I stabilize GAD, Panic, Severe Health Anxiety/Somatization Disorder SSRIs (Paxil and Lexapro) and Klonpin at various doses since late 90s Alcohol abuse got bad 2008 Quit everything in summer 2009. Fall 09 still alcohol free but reinstate messy got hospitalized at McClean for 10 days March 2012 relapsed on drinking. Two years pretty bad drinking on my Lexapro. Still slipping into 2016 with some good patches. Dropped to 10mg Lexapro in late summer. November 4th stopped drinking but days later all hell broke loose. Dec 4th 0.5mg Klonopin added (I know not a good idea this early into not drinking) Link to comment
Rain Posted December 21, 2016 Author Share Posted December 21, 2016 Hi there, My restless legs are toally disappeared today but my akathisia starts very very bad!!! I felt anxiety to the top, despair, hopeless, low mood, give up thoughts, etc... My goodness I couldn't sleep for whole night, and nothing can calm me down, I can't sit still can't walk too long can't stand for long. This is the worst Akathisia I have ever experienced. Why I am feeling this way? Is this caused by this cut? Or Lexapro starts acting worse on me? By the way, I ate a lot of seafood 3 days ago, I used to intolerate seafood when WD started a year ago. And by the time this intolerable lessoned. Will this cut triggered seafood intolerance again then worsening the Akathisia? 2006 October Zoloft 50mg for anxiety. 2013 March Lexapro 10mg for 18 months to 2015 September. 2015 September increased to 20mg for 7 weeks but getting worse. 3rd November dropped back to 10mg 2016 11th November taper to 9mg 2017 3rd March Taper to 8.8mg, then Fast taper start: 10th-8.6mg, 12th-8.2mg, 17th-8.0mg, 22rd-7.7mg, 27th-7.4mg. April 2nd- 6.9mg (WD start), 19th-6.5mg. Failed one day Cymbalta trial, took back Lexapro, much worse Akathisia torture. Keep holding. May 22nd- 6.3mg, June 10th- 5.7mg, Nov- 4.4mg, Dec- 4.3mg, 2018 Jan- 4.1mg Link to comment
Rain Posted December 21, 2016 Author Share Posted December 21, 2016 I am now using a mirco scale to cut my lexapro tablet dosage. But I don't know if i am doing right: 10mg tablet, I cut 10% this time, should be 9mg, so the tablet weighs 0.130g, so I use scissor to cut the tablet to 0.117g-0.118g. But I don't know if this is right. 2006 October Zoloft 50mg for anxiety. 2013 March Lexapro 10mg for 18 months to 2015 September. 2015 September increased to 20mg for 7 weeks but getting worse. 3rd November dropped back to 10mg 2016 11th November taper to 9mg 2017 3rd March Taper to 8.8mg, then Fast taper start: 10th-8.6mg, 12th-8.2mg, 17th-8.0mg, 22rd-7.7mg, 27th-7.4mg. April 2nd- 6.9mg (WD start), 19th-6.5mg. Failed one day Cymbalta trial, took back Lexapro, much worse Akathisia torture. Keep holding. May 22nd- 6.3mg, June 10th- 5.7mg, Nov- 4.4mg, Dec- 4.3mg, 2018 Jan- 4.1mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus scallywag Posted December 22, 2016 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted December 22, 2016 Rain I've moved your post/question to your introduction topic so that all your information, questions and answers are in one place. What is the weight of the entire tablet of 10 mg lexapro? This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.1997-1999 Effexor; 2002-2005 Effexor XR 37.5 mg linear taper, dropping same #beads/week with bad results Cymbalta 60 mg 2012 - 2015; 2016: 20 mg to 7 mg exact doses and dates in this post; 2017: 6.3 mg to 0.0 mg Aug. 12; details here scallywag's IntroductionOnline spreadsheet for dose taper calculations and nz11's THE WORKS spreadsheet Link to comment
Rain Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 Rain I've moved your post/question to your introduction topic so that all your information, questions and answers are in one place. What is the weight of the entire tablet of 10 mg lexapro? Thanks! The med weighs 0.130g in 10mg dose. 2006 October Zoloft 50mg for anxiety. 2013 March Lexapro 10mg for 18 months to 2015 September. 2015 September increased to 20mg for 7 weeks but getting worse. 3rd November dropped back to 10mg 2016 11th November taper to 9mg 2017 3rd March Taper to 8.8mg, then Fast taper start: 10th-8.6mg, 12th-8.2mg, 17th-8.0mg, 22rd-7.7mg, 27th-7.4mg. April 2nd- 6.9mg (WD start), 19th-6.5mg. Failed one day Cymbalta trial, took back Lexapro, much worse Akathisia torture. Keep holding. May 22nd- 6.3mg, June 10th- 5.7mg, Nov- 4.4mg, Dec- 4.3mg, 2018 Jan- 4.1mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus scallywag Posted December 22, 2016 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted December 22, 2016 Your arithmetic a few posts back is good. If 10 mg active ingredient (mgai) = 130 mg pill weight (mgpw), then 9 mgai = 117 mgpw. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.1997-1999 Effexor; 2002-2005 Effexor XR 37.5 mg linear taper, dropping same #beads/week with bad results Cymbalta 60 mg 2012 - 2015; 2016: 20 mg to 7 mg exact doses and dates in this post; 2017: 6.3 mg to 0.0 mg Aug. 12; details here scallywag's IntroductionOnline spreadsheet for dose taper calculations and nz11's THE WORKS spreadsheet Link to comment
Rain Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 Your arithmetic a few posts back is good. If 10 mg active ingredient (mgai) = 130 mg pill weight (mgpw), then 9 mgai = 117 mgpw. Haha thanks! I'm on 9mg for 1.2 month now, I am suffering bad akathisia at the moment, worst one I've ever had. 2006 October Zoloft 50mg for anxiety. 2013 March Lexapro 10mg for 18 months to 2015 September. 2015 September increased to 20mg for 7 weeks but getting worse. 3rd November dropped back to 10mg 2016 11th November taper to 9mg 2017 3rd March Taper to 8.8mg, then Fast taper start: 10th-8.6mg, 12th-8.2mg, 17th-8.0mg, 22rd-7.7mg, 27th-7.4mg. April 2nd- 6.9mg (WD start), 19th-6.5mg. Failed one day Cymbalta trial, took back Lexapro, much worse Akathisia torture. Keep holding. May 22nd- 6.3mg, June 10th- 5.7mg, Nov- 4.4mg, Dec- 4.3mg, 2018 Jan- 4.1mg Link to comment
Moderator Frogie Posted December 22, 2016 Moderator Share Posted December 22, 2016 You'll do just fine. Take care, Frogie xx PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist. Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form) ---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil. Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper. 19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020) I am not a medical professional. The suggestions I make are based on personal experience. Link to comment
Rain Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 You'll do just fine. Take care, Frogie xx Hey Frogie, I need your help, my akathisia went crazy, I couldn't sleep for 24 hours, heart palp very fast, restless and insomnia, I don't know why things went such bad, I feeling hopeless and despair, no appetite at all. I want know if this akathisia will go away... 2006 October Zoloft 50mg for anxiety. 2013 March Lexapro 10mg for 18 months to 2015 September. 2015 September increased to 20mg for 7 weeks but getting worse. 3rd November dropped back to 10mg 2016 11th November taper to 9mg 2017 3rd March Taper to 8.8mg, then Fast taper start: 10th-8.6mg, 12th-8.2mg, 17th-8.0mg, 22rd-7.7mg, 27th-7.4mg. April 2nd- 6.9mg (WD start), 19th-6.5mg. Failed one day Cymbalta trial, took back Lexapro, much worse Akathisia torture. Keep holding. May 22nd- 6.3mg, June 10th- 5.7mg, Nov- 4.4mg, Dec- 4.3mg, 2018 Jan- 4.1mg Link to comment
Moderator Frogie Posted December 22, 2016 Moderator Share Posted December 22, 2016 You'll do just fine. Take care, Frogie xx Hey Frogie,I need your help, my akathisia went crazy, I couldn't sleep for 24 hours, heart palp very fast, restless and insomnia, I don't know why things went such bad, I feeling hopeless and despair, no appetite at all. I want know if this akathisia will go away... Hi Rain: I'm not a dr or an expert by any means, but I'm pretty sure it will go away. Did you have a bad day? Something unusual happen? Did you change doses? It always happens to me this time of year. It's the holidays for me. Too many memories and for some reason they won't go away. Just take a deep breath and know everything will be ok. Let me know if you still need to talk and we can even PM. Take care, Frogie xx PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist. Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form) ---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil. Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper. 19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020) I am not a medical professional. The suggestions I make are based on personal experience. Link to comment
Rain Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 You'll do just fine. Take care, Frogie xx Hey Frogie,I need your help, my akathisia went crazy, I couldn't sleep for 24 hours, heart palp very fast, restless and insomnia, I don't know why things went such bad, I feeling hopeless and despair, no appetite at all. I want know if this akathisia will go away... Hi Rain: I'm not a dr or an expert by any means, but I'm pretty sure it will go away. Did you have a bad day? Something unusual happen? Did you change doses? It always happens to me this time of year. It's the holidays for me. Too many memories and for some reason they won't go away. Just take a deep breath and know everything will be ok. Let me know if you still need to talk and we can even PM. Take care, Frogie xx If PM Ok for you, I'd like to PM to you. Thanks! 2006 October Zoloft 50mg for anxiety. 2013 March Lexapro 10mg for 18 months to 2015 September. 2015 September increased to 20mg for 7 weeks but getting worse. 3rd November dropped back to 10mg 2016 11th November taper to 9mg 2017 3rd March Taper to 8.8mg, then Fast taper start: 10th-8.6mg, 12th-8.2mg, 17th-8.0mg, 22rd-7.7mg, 27th-7.4mg. April 2nd- 6.9mg (WD start), 19th-6.5mg. Failed one day Cymbalta trial, took back Lexapro, much worse Akathisia torture. Keep holding. May 22nd- 6.3mg, June 10th- 5.7mg, Nov- 4.4mg, Dec- 4.3mg, 2018 Jan- 4.1mg Link to comment
Moderator Frogie Posted December 22, 2016 Moderator Share Posted December 22, 2016 You'll do just fine. Take care, Frogie xx Hey Frogie,I need your help, my akathisia went crazy, I couldn't sleep for 24 hours, heart palp very fast, restless and insomnia, I don't know why things went such bad, I feeling hopeless and despair, no appetite at all. I want know if this akathisia will go away... Hi Rain: I'm not a dr or an expert by any means, but I'm pretty sure it will go away. Did you have a bad day? Something unusual happen? Did you change doses? It always happens to me this time of year. It's the holidays for me. Too many memories and for some reason they won't go away. Just take a deep breath and know everything will be ok. Let me know if you still need to talk and we can even PM. Take care, Frogie xx If PM Ok for you, I'd like to PM to you. Thanks! No problem go ahead and PM anytime. PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist. Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form) ---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil. Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper. 19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020) I am not a medical professional. The suggestions I make are based on personal experience. Link to comment
Rain Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 Your arithmetic a few posts back is good. If 10 mg active ingredient (mgai) = 130 mg pill weight (mgpw), then 9 mgai = 117 mgpw. Hi Scallywag, just a question, I am dry cutting a lexapro tablet, is there any issue about the uneven strength in the tablet? or is it Ok to cut like that? 2006 October Zoloft 50mg for anxiety. 2013 March Lexapro 10mg for 18 months to 2015 September. 2015 September increased to 20mg for 7 weeks but getting worse. 3rd November dropped back to 10mg 2016 11th November taper to 9mg 2017 3rd March Taper to 8.8mg, then Fast taper start: 10th-8.6mg, 12th-8.2mg, 17th-8.0mg, 22rd-7.7mg, 27th-7.4mg. April 2nd- 6.9mg (WD start), 19th-6.5mg. Failed one day Cymbalta trial, took back Lexapro, much worse Akathisia torture. Keep holding. May 22nd- 6.3mg, June 10th- 5.7mg, Nov- 4.4mg, Dec- 4.3mg, 2018 Jan- 4.1mg Link to comment
Mort81 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Hey Rain it's me! Long time no speak Was on 30mg (Lexapro) for 7-8yrs20mg for 3 months (This was my choice my Doc wanted me to drop much faster)15 mg 2week10mg 2 weeks 5 mg 1 week0 since August 24th . PPI Dexlant 30 mg taper has begun. Cutting 20% currently. using zantac as needed. Benzo is currently 0.10mg Link to comment
Rain Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 Hey Rain it's me! Long time no speak Hey Stitch! Long time no speak on forum! Haha! 2006 October Zoloft 50mg for anxiety. 2013 March Lexapro 10mg for 18 months to 2015 September. 2015 September increased to 20mg for 7 weeks but getting worse. 3rd November dropped back to 10mg 2016 11th November taper to 9mg 2017 3rd March Taper to 8.8mg, then Fast taper start: 10th-8.6mg, 12th-8.2mg, 17th-8.0mg, 22rd-7.7mg, 27th-7.4mg. April 2nd- 6.9mg (WD start), 19th-6.5mg. Failed one day Cymbalta trial, took back Lexapro, much worse Akathisia torture. Keep holding. May 22nd- 6.3mg, June 10th- 5.7mg, Nov- 4.4mg, Dec- 4.3mg, 2018 Jan- 4.1mg Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus scallywag Posted December 23, 2016 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted December 23, 2016 Rain, the tablets are homogeneous, i.e. the active ingredient is dispersed evenly throughout the tablet. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.1997-1999 Effexor; 2002-2005 Effexor XR 37.5 mg linear taper, dropping same #beads/week with bad results Cymbalta 60 mg 2012 - 2015; 2016: 20 mg to 7 mg exact doses and dates in this post; 2017: 6.3 mg to 0.0 mg Aug. 12; details here scallywag's IntroductionOnline spreadsheet for dose taper calculations and nz11's THE WORKS spreadsheet Link to comment
Rain Posted December 23, 2016 Author Share Posted December 23, 2016 Rain, the tablets are homogeneous, i.e. the active ingredient is dispersed evenly throughout the tablet. Many thanks for your answer! 2006 October Zoloft 50mg for anxiety. 2013 March Lexapro 10mg for 18 months to 2015 September. 2015 September increased to 20mg for 7 weeks but getting worse. 3rd November dropped back to 10mg 2016 11th November taper to 9mg 2017 3rd March Taper to 8.8mg, then Fast taper start: 10th-8.6mg, 12th-8.2mg, 17th-8.0mg, 22rd-7.7mg, 27th-7.4mg. April 2nd- 6.9mg (WD start), 19th-6.5mg. Failed one day Cymbalta trial, took back Lexapro, much worse Akathisia torture. Keep holding. May 22nd- 6.3mg, June 10th- 5.7mg, Nov- 4.4mg, Dec- 4.3mg, 2018 Jan- 4.1mg Link to comment
Rain Posted December 27, 2016 Author Share Posted December 27, 2016 Some small updates: Last week I went throgh the up and down intense legs discomfort and insomnia. Today, things seem settled down a lot. Sleeping is back to normal again and legs feeling turns to mild. I am able to do some house works and driving uber for 1.5 hours. While driving Uber, I noticed the leg restless slightly came back again, so I decided not to push myself too much and go home. I hope the leg discomfort feeling will go away soon. 2006 October Zoloft 50mg for anxiety. 2013 March Lexapro 10mg for 18 months to 2015 September. 2015 September increased to 20mg for 7 weeks but getting worse. 3rd November dropped back to 10mg 2016 11th November taper to 9mg 2017 3rd March Taper to 8.8mg, then Fast taper start: 10th-8.6mg, 12th-8.2mg, 17th-8.0mg, 22rd-7.7mg, 27th-7.4mg. April 2nd- 6.9mg (WD start), 19th-6.5mg. Failed one day Cymbalta trial, took back Lexapro, much worse Akathisia torture. Keep holding. May 22nd- 6.3mg, June 10th- 5.7mg, Nov- 4.4mg, Dec- 4.3mg, 2018 Jan- 4.1mg Link to comment
Moderator Frogie Posted December 27, 2016 Moderator Share Posted December 27, 2016 Some small updates: Last week I went throgh the up and down intense legs discomfort and insomnia. Today, things seem settled down a lot. Sleeping is back to normal again and legs feeling turns to mild. I am able to do some house works and driving uber for 1.5 hours. While driving Uber, I noticed the leg restless slightly came back again, so I decided not to push myself too much and go home. I hope the leg discomfort feeling will go away soon. I'm really glad you are feeling better. Take care, Frogie xx PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist. Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form) ---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil. Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper. 19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020) I am not a medical professional. The suggestions I make are based on personal experience. Link to comment
Rain Posted December 28, 2016 Author Share Posted December 28, 2016 Some small updates: Last week I went throgh the up and down intense legs discomfort and insomnia. Today, things seem settled down a lot. Sleeping is back to normal again and legs feeling turns to mild. I am able to do some house works and driving uber for 1.5 hours. While driving Uber, I noticed the leg restless slightly came back again, so I decided not to push myself too much and go home. I hope the leg discomfort feeling will go away soon. I'm really glad you are feeling better. Take care, Frogie xx Many thanks Frogie, things will get better, but need to be patient and be strong. 2006 October Zoloft 50mg for anxiety. 2013 March Lexapro 10mg for 18 months to 2015 September. 2015 September increased to 20mg for 7 weeks but getting worse. 3rd November dropped back to 10mg 2016 11th November taper to 9mg 2017 3rd March Taper to 8.8mg, then Fast taper start: 10th-8.6mg, 12th-8.2mg, 17th-8.0mg, 22rd-7.7mg, 27th-7.4mg. April 2nd- 6.9mg (WD start), 19th-6.5mg. Failed one day Cymbalta trial, took back Lexapro, much worse Akathisia torture. Keep holding. May 22nd- 6.3mg, June 10th- 5.7mg, Nov- 4.4mg, Dec- 4.3mg, 2018 Jan- 4.1mg Link to comment
Moderator Frogie Posted December 28, 2016 Moderator Share Posted December 28, 2016 Some small updates: Last week I went throgh the up and down intense legs discomfort and insomnia. Today, things seem settled down a lot. Sleeping is back to normal again and legs feeling turns to mild. I am able to do some house works and driving uber for 1.5 hours. While driving Uber, I noticed the leg restless slightly came back again, so I decided not to push myself too much and go home. I hope the leg discomfort feeling will go away soon. I'm really glad you are feeling better. Take care, Frogie xx Many thanks Frogie, things will get better, but need to be patient and be strong. Yes they will. We just have to be patient. Take care, Frogie xx PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist. Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form) ---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil. Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper. 19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020) I am not a medical professional. The suggestions I make are based on personal experience. Link to comment
Rain Posted January 4, 2017 Author Share Posted January 4, 2017 Updates: My restless legs were totally gone since mid of last week, which is a very good thing. My anxiety and morning wake up with OCD thoughts starts since last sunday and keep worsening. Today I woke up with very bad heart palp, anxiety and OCD thoughts. After an hour got up, my mood was low and despair. I feel after this 10% cut, I am going back to the starting point of my WD last year or even worse. Anyone can tell will this cut made me back to the Zero or worse? 2006 October Zoloft 50mg for anxiety. 2013 March Lexapro 10mg for 18 months to 2015 September. 2015 September increased to 20mg for 7 weeks but getting worse. 3rd November dropped back to 10mg 2016 11th November taper to 9mg 2017 3rd March Taper to 8.8mg, then Fast taper start: 10th-8.6mg, 12th-8.2mg, 17th-8.0mg, 22rd-7.7mg, 27th-7.4mg. April 2nd- 6.9mg (WD start), 19th-6.5mg. Failed one day Cymbalta trial, took back Lexapro, much worse Akathisia torture. Keep holding. May 22nd- 6.3mg, June 10th- 5.7mg, Nov- 4.4mg, Dec- 4.3mg, 2018 Jan- 4.1mg Link to comment
Rain Posted January 15, 2017 Author Share Posted January 15, 2017 Some updates: My restless legs are coming back, which is awful again. Thoughts are bad. Recently the pattern is like: woke up the worst, anxiety, OCD thoughts and despair. Got up and ate something then turns to better a bit. After 4 hours of taking Lexapro bad again, then night time is fear and anxiety feelings to stop me get to sleep. I don't really know if 10% cut made this bad or something else? Any experienced people can tell me what should I do? What will happen if I keep taking 9mg of Lexapro? Thanks! 2006 October Zoloft 50mg for anxiety. 2013 March Lexapro 10mg for 18 months to 2015 September. 2015 September increased to 20mg for 7 weeks but getting worse. 3rd November dropped back to 10mg 2016 11th November taper to 9mg 2017 3rd March Taper to 8.8mg, then Fast taper start: 10th-8.6mg, 12th-8.2mg, 17th-8.0mg, 22rd-7.7mg, 27th-7.4mg. April 2nd- 6.9mg (WD start), 19th-6.5mg. Failed one day Cymbalta trial, took back Lexapro, much worse Akathisia torture. Keep holding. May 22nd- 6.3mg, June 10th- 5.7mg, Nov- 4.4mg, Dec- 4.3mg, 2018 Jan- 4.1mg Link to comment
Mort81 Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Hey Rain hang tough u gonna be right! Was on 30mg (Lexapro) for 7-8yrs20mg for 3 months (This was my choice my Doc wanted me to drop much faster)15 mg 2week10mg 2 weeks 5 mg 1 week0 since August 24th . PPI Dexlant 30 mg taper has begun. Cutting 20% currently. using zantac as needed. Benzo is currently 0.10mg Link to comment
Rain Posted January 16, 2017 Author Share Posted January 16, 2017 Hey Rain hang tough u gonna be right! Many thanks Stitch!!! Appreciated! 2006 October Zoloft 50mg for anxiety. 2013 March Lexapro 10mg for 18 months to 2015 September. 2015 September increased to 20mg for 7 weeks but getting worse. 3rd November dropped back to 10mg 2016 11th November taper to 9mg 2017 3rd March Taper to 8.8mg, then Fast taper start: 10th-8.6mg, 12th-8.2mg, 17th-8.0mg, 22rd-7.7mg, 27th-7.4mg. April 2nd- 6.9mg (WD start), 19th-6.5mg. Failed one day Cymbalta trial, took back Lexapro, much worse Akathisia torture. Keep holding. May 22nd- 6.3mg, June 10th- 5.7mg, Nov- 4.4mg, Dec- 4.3mg, 2018 Jan- 4.1mg Link to comment
Rain Posted January 16, 2017 Author Share Posted January 16, 2017 Updates: My stomach starts nausea and indigestive, that caused me extremely anxious and fear, despair... 2006 October Zoloft 50mg for anxiety. 2013 March Lexapro 10mg for 18 months to 2015 September. 2015 September increased to 20mg for 7 weeks but getting worse. 3rd November dropped back to 10mg 2016 11th November taper to 9mg 2017 3rd March Taper to 8.8mg, then Fast taper start: 10th-8.6mg, 12th-8.2mg, 17th-8.0mg, 22rd-7.7mg, 27th-7.4mg. April 2nd- 6.9mg (WD start), 19th-6.5mg. Failed one day Cymbalta trial, took back Lexapro, much worse Akathisia torture. Keep holding. May 22nd- 6.3mg, June 10th- 5.7mg, Nov- 4.4mg, Dec- 4.3mg, 2018 Jan- 4.1mg Link to comment
Moderator Frogie Posted January 16, 2017 Moderator Share Posted January 16, 2017 Just take deep breaths, nausea is a W/D symptom as you know. You will be fine. Take care, Frogie xx PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist. Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form) ---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil. Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper. 19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020) I am not a medical professional. The suggestions I make are based on personal experience. Link to comment
Mort81 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Hey Rain how's the restless leg today? Was on 30mg (Lexapro) for 7-8yrs20mg for 3 months (This was my choice my Doc wanted me to drop much faster)15 mg 2week10mg 2 weeks 5 mg 1 week0 since August 24th . PPI Dexlant 30 mg taper has begun. Cutting 20% currently. using zantac as needed. Benzo is currently 0.10mg Link to comment
Rain Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 Just take deep breaths, nausea is a W/D symptom as you know. You will be fine. Take care, Frogie xx Many thanks Frogie for encouraging me! I will do my best to go through the WD. Regards Rain 2006 October Zoloft 50mg for anxiety. 2013 March Lexapro 10mg for 18 months to 2015 September. 2015 September increased to 20mg for 7 weeks but getting worse. 3rd November dropped back to 10mg 2016 11th November taper to 9mg 2017 3rd March Taper to 8.8mg, then Fast taper start: 10th-8.6mg, 12th-8.2mg, 17th-8.0mg, 22rd-7.7mg, 27th-7.4mg. April 2nd- 6.9mg (WD start), 19th-6.5mg. Failed one day Cymbalta trial, took back Lexapro, much worse Akathisia torture. Keep holding. May 22nd- 6.3mg, June 10th- 5.7mg, Nov- 4.4mg, Dec- 4.3mg, 2018 Jan- 4.1mg Link to comment
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