DaveWales: Paroxetine withdrawal and discontinuation syndrome

[manymoretodays]

7 hours ago, DaveWales said:

Any help would be appreciated, especially stories of people who have suffered such a thing so far into their taper and still managed to make it back to some sort of meaningful normal existence. 

 

Hi DaveWales,

I had some horrid symptoms before I even knew I was in WD from one medication or the other.  So I mean, in retrospect, looking back in my own history before I'd even arrived here, or was very educated about tapering and WD.  Some tough stuff too.....after I arrived here, at survivingantidepressants too, when finally tapering off the last of my medications.

 

And yes, I have managed to make it back to a really great place, as far as meaningful existences' go.

 

It does get better, and we do heal from this stuff.  It does.  We do.

 

((((((Dave))))))

those are your hugs, AND butterfly wings too.

Love, peace, healing, and growth,

manymoretodays(mmt)

[manymoretodays]

4 hours ago, DaveWales said:

I didn't no Alto, but when I tried to swap to the paroxetine liquid I found it too hard and was easier to stick with the pills and measuring cutting them with a gemini scale. I really don't want to change anything else at the moment as I think it could risk an upset for my system. As I reacted when I updosed even 0.1 mg I am thinking creatively about ways to get paroxetine back in my system in a non reacting manner.

 

One way I thought was to have a dose every 22 hours then every 12 days I get an extra 7.5 in my system bringing the average up to over 8. Or, as I have my pill at night before bed maybe adding the smallest increment 1mgpw extra in the morning as some of the night befores would be out of my system. I could then add mega slowly and try and not increase total paroxetine load but increase the average. Any thoughts Alto? Many thanks. 

 

(just quoting this one too, so Alto can respond,  I don't want your reply to Alto to get lost in the shuffle of posts and pages.)

Edited May 31, 2019 by manymoretodays

[DaveWales]

@manymoretodays thanks so much for your kind words. In a previous life( it feels like now) I was a professional rock and ice climber and I know what it's like to hang on by the skin of your fingers or millimeters of an ice pick in crumbling ice, but never like this for so long. 

 

I wish you well on your journey mmd. 

 

Dave x

[Altostrata]

22 hours ago, DaveWales said:

One way I thought was to have a dose every 22 hours then every 12 days I get an extra 7.5 in my system bringing the average up to over 8. Or, as I have my pill at night before bed maybe adding the smallest increment 1mgpw extra in the morning as some of the night befores would be out of my system. I could then add mega slowly and try and not increase total paroxetine load but increase the average. Any thoughts Alto? Many thanks. 

 

I don't know, Dave. If I were you, I'd phone Dr. Healy and discuss switching to Prozac. Please let us know what he says.

[DaveWales]

51 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

 

I don't know, Dave. If I were you, I'd phone Dr. Healy and discuss switching to Prozac. Please let us know what he says.

OK, I will contact him and get his advice, and report back. Many thanks for your help. Dave

[Vonnegutjunky]

Hi Dave, I’m in the same situation as you. 

Also at about 7mg, and using a scale, I take 3.5 off my pills. 

 

And im also struggling with the ocd too, something I never really had before. 

 

It it seems to come and go for me, and it is so scary I hope it’s just wd and will let up eventually. 

 

Take care, and keep us posted on how you are doing. 

[powerback]

Hope your doing ok Dave lately .

I wanted to check in .

Take care.

[nick1990]

Hey Dave , I’m no admin , but have had a read over what you’ve gone through . I’m sorry for you troubles. 

 

I just wanted to say that some of us have a hard time with the 10% method . 

 

I cant do it . I crash every time. But I’ve successfully tapered from 45mg to 22mg living my life pretty much fully by going slowly . As in 5% max every 4 weeks (using the brassmonkey slide method) always followed by a hold of a few weeks. Sometimes if I’m feeling not quite right , I stop , and hold . 

 

Obviously this method of tapering will take a lot longer than the standard 10% method to become drug free , but it’s so much better than pushing your body to a point where it can’t handle it. 

 

I see it like this - you can either go faster and TRY to get off the drug quickly and likely endure hell. OR you can go very slowly , taking a few years more to become drug free , but maintaining functionality throughout. To me it’s a no brainer , but I think we all get caught up with this idea of rushing. 

 

I know this isn’t too relevant to how you feel right now , as your experiencing some WD symptoms, but more just something to consider in the future . 

Whatever you decide to do now , I hope it goes well for you mate.

 

cheers , Nick . 

 

 

[DaveWales]

Hello guys, I was wondering if anyone had experienced the thing that I did back in April. Basically, i was still in withdrawal after dropping to 7.5mg, but messed up had some drinks on my birthday and a stressful event happened. A few nights later i felt a "vibration" of my nerves although my body. I believe what I felt was apoptosis or cell death. I have felt nothing like this at any point in withdrawal, not even the initial rapid removal in 2016. I wonder if it was nmda receptors that could have died. I have had a very hard time the last 8 months and wonder if anyone else has experienced this. I dont mean "brain zaps" and all that low level stuff. I felt a while body nervous event, only once,  but think it may have done some serious damage. I believe my brain is adapting to some of the symptoms through neuro plasticity, but from what I read nmda receptors dont regrow. Any help or advice, or experience would be appreciated. 

[Memphisto]

hello dave, how are you today. have your anxiety levels decreased?

 

Edited April 13, 2022 by ChessieCat
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