Moderator Onmyway Posted July 19, 2023 Moderator Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Sinanz said: Hello again , i have some questions every time I going to gym particularly in evening after gym I get tickle in my brain , stomach ( butter fly gut),. Weakness in my arms and feel sickness but worse than the other I have problem with my anxiety my anxiety rev up for two or three days after and I sensitive to food again , does workout reves anxiety? Intense exercise can rev up withdrawal. Do something gentle. "Nothing so small as a moment is insurmountable, and moments are all that we have. You have survived every trial and tribulation that life has thrown at you up until this very instant. When future troubles come—and they will come—a version of you will be born into that moment that can conquer them, too." - Kevin Koenig I am not a doctor and this should not be considered medical advice. You can use the information and recommendations provided in whatever way you want and all decisions on your treatment are yours. In the next few weeks I do not have a lot of capacity to respond to questions. If you need a quick answer pls tag or ask other moderators who may want to be tagged. Aug 2000 - July 2003 (ct, 4-6 wk wd) , citalopram 20 mg, xanax prn, wellbutrin for a few months, trazodone prn Dec 2004 - July 2018 citalopram 20 mg, xanax prn (rarely used) Aug 2018 - citalopram 40 mg (self titrated up) September 2018 - January 2019 tapered citalopram - 40/30/20/10/5 no issues until a week after reaching 0 Feb 2019 0.25 xanax - 0.5/day (3 weeks) over to klonopin 0.25 once a day to manage severe wd March 6, reinstated citalopram 2.5 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 mg for sleep 2-3 times a week Apr 1st citalopram 2.0 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 once a week (off by 4/14/19- no tapering) citalopram (liquid) 4/14/19 -1.8 mg, 5/8/19 - 1.6 mg, 7/27/19 -1.5 mg, 8/15/19 - 1.35, 2/21/21 - 1.1 (smaller drops in between), 6/20/21 - 1.03 mg, 8/7/21- 1.025, 8/11/21 - 1.02, 8/15/21 - 1.015, 9/3/21 - 0.925 (fingers crossed!), 10/8/21 - 0.9, 10/18/21 - 0.875, 12/31/21 - 0.85, 1/7/22 - 0.825, 1/14/22 - 0.8, 1/22/22 - 0.785, 8/18/22 - 0.59, 12/15/2022 - 0.48, 2/15/22 - 0.43, 25/07/23 - 0.25 (mistake), 6/08/23 - 0.33mg Supplements: magnesium citrate and bi-glycinate Link to comment
Moderator Onmyway Posted July 19, 2023 Moderator Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Sinanz said: What to do with anxiety I start smoking again after 10 years quiting smoking .and feels awesome when I smoking , I buy tobacco pipe and some delicious tobacco so I relax myself to watching TV and pipe smoking 4 -5 time day. 🫣 Is it bad for WD or not? We don't encourage psychoactive substances as they may make wd worse. How you will react we don't know - you'll find out. "Nothing so small as a moment is insurmountable, and moments are all that we have. You have survived every trial and tribulation that life has thrown at you up until this very instant. When future troubles come—and they will come—a version of you will be born into that moment that can conquer them, too." - Kevin Koenig I am not a doctor and this should not be considered medical advice. You can use the information and recommendations provided in whatever way you want and all decisions on your treatment are yours. In the next few weeks I do not have a lot of capacity to respond to questions. If you need a quick answer pls tag or ask other moderators who may want to be tagged. Aug 2000 - July 2003 (ct, 4-6 wk wd) , citalopram 20 mg, xanax prn, wellbutrin for a few months, trazodone prn Dec 2004 - July 2018 citalopram 20 mg, xanax prn (rarely used) Aug 2018 - citalopram 40 mg (self titrated up) September 2018 - January 2019 tapered citalopram - 40/30/20/10/5 no issues until a week after reaching 0 Feb 2019 0.25 xanax - 0.5/day (3 weeks) over to klonopin 0.25 once a day to manage severe wd March 6, reinstated citalopram 2.5 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 mg for sleep 2-3 times a week Apr 1st citalopram 2.0 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 once a week (off by 4/14/19- no tapering) citalopram (liquid) 4/14/19 -1.8 mg, 5/8/19 - 1.6 mg, 7/27/19 -1.5 mg, 8/15/19 - 1.35, 2/21/21 - 1.1 (smaller drops in between), 6/20/21 - 1.03 mg, 8/7/21- 1.025, 8/11/21 - 1.02, 8/15/21 - 1.015, 9/3/21 - 0.925 (fingers crossed!), 10/8/21 - 0.9, 10/18/21 - 0.875, 12/31/21 - 0.85, 1/7/22 - 0.825, 1/14/22 - 0.8, 1/22/22 - 0.785, 8/18/22 - 0.59, 12/15/2022 - 0.48, 2/15/22 - 0.43, 25/07/23 - 0.25 (mistake), 6/08/23 - 0.33mg Supplements: magnesium citrate and bi-glycinate Link to comment
Mentor FindRest Posted July 19, 2023 Mentor Share Posted July 19, 2023 Nicotine is a psychoactive drug and affects the brain and cns. How it affects your withdrawals will be unpredictable at best. Know that you’ve just added one more variable to the mix and something else that needs to be tapered in the future. That’s not to mention all of the other ways smoking affects our health. As someone who has been smoke-free for 12 years, I understand the urge and the desire to smoke when we are suffering. However, you are doing yourself a great disservice and giving into the lies the urge wants to tell us. The relief you get is temporary, thus your need to smoke 4-5 times a day. With each puff, you are rebuilding that addiction. I encourage you to find other ways to cope with the anxiety. https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/forum/8-symptoms-and-self-care/ 1988-1996 Various AD’s, all classifications. 1996-2019 Effexor XR 37.5mg to 150mg. Jan 2017 onward, 37.5 mg. 2019 Apr 11 - July 24: Trials of Latuda then Rexulti. CT'd off per dr. Jul 24: CT Effexor (per dr) Sep 9-19: Viibryd, CT (per dr). Sep 23-27: Trintellix. CT (per dr). Sep 28 - Oct 24: Prozac 10mg. Oct 24: Stop Prozac, began Pristiq 25mg->50->25mg. 2020 Feb 1: CT Pristiq. Feb 1: Reinstated Effexor XR (10 large beads) gradually increasing to 22 beads (15L+7M) or 9.072mgai on Mar, 2020. 2021 Started Jan w 21 beads (13L+8M) or 8.47mgai ended Dec: 17 beads (7L+9M+1S) or 6.19mgai. Severe COVID + TIA. 2022 Ended yr w 14 beads (3L+5M+5S+1XS) or 4.5mgai. Major jaw injury during year + family tragedy. 2023 Jan: 13 beads (2L+5M+5S+1XS) or 4.2mgai; Feb: 12 beads (2L+4M+5S+1XS) or 3.9mgai; Mar: 11 beads (2L+4M+4S+1XS) or 3.6mgai, Apr: 10 beads (2L+3M+4S+1XS) or 3.3mgai; Jun: 9 beads (2L+3M+3S+1XS) or 3mgai, Current: July, 2023: Effexor XR - 9 beads (2L+3M+3S+1XS) or 2.7 mgai Other current meds: Ambien 10mg 3.935mg , clonazepam .125mg .107mg, omeprazole, Synthroid, Premarin. Supplements: D3, C, probiotic, K2-MK7, Mg Glycinate Link to comment
Sinanz Posted July 20, 2023 Author Share Posted July 20, 2023 15 hours ago, FindRest said: Nicotine is a psychoactive drug and affects the brain and cns. How it affects your withdrawals will be unpredictable at best. Know that you’ve just added one more variable to the mix and something else that needs to be tapered in the future. That’s not to mention all of the other ways smoking affects our health. As someone who has been smoke-free for 12 years, I understand the urge and the desire to smoke when we are suffering. However, you are doing yourself a great disservice and giving into the lies the urge wants to tell us. The relief you get is temporary, thus your need to smoke 4-5 times a day. With each puff, you are rebuilding that addiction. I encourage you to find other ways to cope with the anxiety. https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/forum/8-symptoms-and-self-care/ Thanks , I will read this but I can't eat magnesium, fish oil ... The two things that others can I tried breath technique and not helping so I try smoking I can't say it is good but 50 present worked and 50 present even gets worse included heart beat getting fast so it is one thing that I can tolerate . I promise to my self quite it again . Any way I had appointment to Dr an he said taper mirtazapine half in first month (3.75mg) and the other month 0 now iam on 7.5 mg because I am on clomipramine he said it wouldn't be problem withdrawal . But I am worried mabe it isn't good idea when I red this site about 10 percent In month recommended , what do I do now 😕. Fluoxamine/Levox 200 mg Clonazepam/Klonopin 0.5 mg gm Trazodone 50mg Sreqel 25mg Bospar 5 mg Nortriptyline 25 mg All meds above abrupt (cold turkey)after 6 weeks of use in 2022 ......................................................... All of them from February 2022 to March 2022 and normally used! Had wild signs Every day from March 2023 until now Clomipramine/anafranil 25 mg daily 50 mg clomipramine/anafranil nightly Night 7.4 Mirtazapine/Remeron Link to comment
Sinanz Posted July 20, 2023 Author Share Posted July 20, 2023 15 hours ago, Onmyway said: Intense exercise can rev up withdrawal. Do something gentle. Thanks man, I had biceps workout two days ago and for now I had nightmare, and some WD that I mentioned iam worried about my body too .every achievement I had throughout these 15 years almost gone😔 It depressed me but one thing that makes me keep on is you guys ! iam not alone in this road and have Friends like you who care about, support and it means every things to me . But when we heels it almost 16 month from my CT Fluoxamine/Levox 200 mg Clonazepam/Klonopin 0.5 mg gm Trazodone 50mg Sreqel 25mg Bospar 5 mg Nortriptyline 25 mg All meds above abrupt (cold turkey)after 6 weeks of use in 2022 ......................................................... All of them from February 2022 to March 2022 and normally used! Had wild signs Every day from March 2023 until now Clomipramine/anafranil 25 mg daily 50 mg clomipramine/anafranil nightly Night 7.4 Mirtazapine/Remeron Link to comment
Moderator Onmyway Posted July 20, 2023 Moderator Share Posted July 20, 2023 34 minutes ago, Sinanz said: Thanks , I will read this but I can't eat magnesium, fish oil ... The two things that others can I tried breath technique and not helping so I try smoking I can't say it is good but 50 present worked and 50 present even gets worse included heart beat getting fast so it is one thing that I can tolerate . I promise to my self quite it again . Any way I had appointment to Dr an he said taper mirtazapine half in first month (3.75mg) and the other month 0 now iam on 7.5 mg because I am on clomipramine he said it wouldn't be problem withdrawal . But I am worried mabe it isn't good idea when I red this site about 10 percent In month recommended , what do I do now 😕. Lots of doctors do not want to 'believe' in withdrawal. We you already know what happens when you go fast and the right decision. "Nothing so small as a moment is insurmountable, and moments are all that we have. You have survived every trial and tribulation that life has thrown at you up until this very instant. When future troubles come—and they will come—a version of you will be born into that moment that can conquer them, too." - Kevin Koenig I am not a doctor and this should not be considered medical advice. You can use the information and recommendations provided in whatever way you want and all decisions on your treatment are yours. In the next few weeks I do not have a lot of capacity to respond to questions. If you need a quick answer pls tag or ask other moderators who may want to be tagged. Aug 2000 - July 2003 (ct, 4-6 wk wd) , citalopram 20 mg, xanax prn, wellbutrin for a few months, trazodone prn Dec 2004 - July 2018 citalopram 20 mg, xanax prn (rarely used) Aug 2018 - citalopram 40 mg (self titrated up) September 2018 - January 2019 tapered citalopram - 40/30/20/10/5 no issues until a week after reaching 0 Feb 2019 0.25 xanax - 0.5/day (3 weeks) over to klonopin 0.25 once a day to manage severe wd March 6, reinstated citalopram 2.5 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 mg for sleep 2-3 times a week Apr 1st citalopram 2.0 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 once a week (off by 4/14/19- no tapering) citalopram (liquid) 4/14/19 -1.8 mg, 5/8/19 - 1.6 mg, 7/27/19 -1.5 mg, 8/15/19 - 1.35, 2/21/21 - 1.1 (smaller drops in between), 6/20/21 - 1.03 mg, 8/7/21- 1.025, 8/11/21 - 1.02, 8/15/21 - 1.015, 9/3/21 - 0.925 (fingers crossed!), 10/8/21 - 0.9, 10/18/21 - 0.875, 12/31/21 - 0.85, 1/7/22 - 0.825, 1/14/22 - 0.8, 1/22/22 - 0.785, 8/18/22 - 0.59, 12/15/2022 - 0.48, 2/15/22 - 0.43, 25/07/23 - 0.25 (mistake), 6/08/23 - 0.33mg Supplements: magnesium citrate and bi-glycinate Link to comment
Sinanz Posted July 23, 2023 Author Share Posted July 23, 2023 Hello hope you doing fun ,Today is bad day for me, I ate some prune/plum dry some maybe 20 of them I don't exactly know how many was for my constipation and ate some 1apple, 2 peaches after that feel some tingling in my chest and back and arms and feel burning next day felt anxiety came back (oh my old friend how r u I miss you ani! Really good to see you ani😐 )and today even worse when I woke up really close to panic attack, feel that iam loosing my mind and burning all over my skin , feel emptiness , fear I ate 25 mg clomipramine and now I just feel tired little anxiety 1 of 10 and feel needles / tingling on back and chest ! Is that plum did this or fruit do you have problem like me? I search two things are common in these fruits one is magnesium and the other is Vitamins B6 does vitamine B6 cause panic attack? I love you guys by the way , I honestly accept that maybe it isn't withdrawal is me I don't know I confused I really feel set back like I suddenly open door of hell I didn't have this such treble feeling from acute CT . Fluoxamine/Levox 200 mg Clonazepam/Klonopin 0.5 mg gm Trazodone 50mg Sreqel 25mg Bospar 5 mg Nortriptyline 25 mg All meds above abrupt (cold turkey)after 6 weeks of use in 2022 ......................................................... All of them from February 2022 to March 2022 and normally used! Had wild signs Every day from March 2023 until now Clomipramine/anafranil 25 mg daily 50 mg clomipramine/anafranil nightly Night 7.4 Mirtazapine/Remeron Link to comment
Sinanz Posted July 23, 2023 Author Share Posted July 23, 2023 I don't know what is wrong with me guys if I think about what I've been through what hard CT and all of these I think that I litarelly there and it want to happened again it makes me scare a anxious I feel like I Wana panic again hole 24/7 day like my acute withdrawal , I don't know if iam PTSD 😭 or not just need help . Sorry if I makes you sad but I don't know what to do with my ptsd Fluoxamine/Levox 200 mg Clonazepam/Klonopin 0.5 mg gm Trazodone 50mg Sreqel 25mg Bospar 5 mg Nortriptyline 25 mg All meds above abrupt (cold turkey)after 6 weeks of use in 2022 ......................................................... All of them from February 2022 to March 2022 and normally used! Had wild signs Every day from March 2023 until now Clomipramine/anafranil 25 mg daily 50 mg clomipramine/anafranil nightly Night 7.4 Mirtazapine/Remeron Link to comment
Sinanz Posted July 23, 2023 Author Share Posted July 23, 2023 I don't know what is wrong with me guys if I think about what I've been through what hard CT and all of these I think that I litarelly there and it want to happened again it makes me scare a anxious I feel like I Wana panic again hole 24/7 day like my acute withdrawal , I don't know if iam PTSD 😭 or not just need help . Sorry if I makes you sad but I don't know what to do with my ptsd Fluoxamine/Levox 200 mg Clonazepam/Klonopin 0.5 mg gm Trazodone 50mg Sreqel 25mg Bospar 5 mg Nortriptyline 25 mg All meds above abrupt (cold turkey)after 6 weeks of use in 2022 ......................................................... All of them from February 2022 to March 2022 and normally used! Had wild signs Every day from March 2023 until now Clomipramine/anafranil 25 mg daily 50 mg clomipramine/anafranil nightly Night 7.4 Mirtazapine/Remeron Link to comment
Sinanz Posted July 24, 2023 Author Share Posted July 24, 2023 Hello again sorry if i bother you to read my massages, but I think that is enough I want to live my life again , I want it back so I decided to eat wha ever I want, and work out how hard like before I am sick of everything , I hate all psychologist dr's to make my life hell , I never forgive them to do that to me all brain zap, anxiety , panic and the things I have to go through , day made this and they are responsible. I just can't wait at home to be myself again 16 month in home and 6 first month acute withdrawal it is not just withdrawal it was absolute torture , there are guys in this site that ،There are people who only complain about stopping / early tapering one medicine (ssri,tricycle, remeron) , but I abrupt 6 medication!! The Ct you can't imagine , no one can bare this trust me I know the pain I had many pain in my life tear muscle ,rotator cuff ... But this was something else I some time have nightmare of that moments in my dreams when iam sleeping , so that is why iam tired of burning skin, pain , anxiety , some times I feel my brain just stop and not working !!! And then start working it is weird thing , I lost my hope but I want to live my life iam tired of any thing and forget I have paws Fluoxamine/Levox 200 mg Clonazepam/Klonopin 0.5 mg gm Trazodone 50mg Sreqel 25mg Bospar 5 mg Nortriptyline 25 mg All meds above abrupt (cold turkey)after 6 weeks of use in 2022 ......................................................... All of them from February 2022 to March 2022 and normally used! Had wild signs Every day from March 2023 until now Clomipramine/anafranil 25 mg daily 50 mg clomipramine/anafranil nightly Night 7.4 Mirtazapine/Remeron Link to comment
Sinanz Posted August 15, 2023 Author Share Posted August 15, 2023 Hello to dear friends hope you all doing fine, today I got COVID so iam sick now and symptoms rev up , I feel nausea and tickle on my back and gut ,anxiety. Fluoxamine/Levox 200 mg Clonazepam/Klonopin 0.5 mg gm Trazodone 50mg Sreqel 25mg Bospar 5 mg Nortriptyline 25 mg All meds above abrupt (cold turkey)after 6 weeks of use in 2022 ......................................................... All of them from February 2022 to March 2022 and normally used! Had wild signs Every day from March 2023 until now Clomipramine/anafranil 25 mg daily 50 mg clomipramine/anafranil nightly Night 7.4 Mirtazapine/Remeron Link to comment
Sinanz Posted August 15, 2023 Author Share Posted August 15, 2023 I have some question every time I eat walnut or prune my symptoms revs high and I get runny nose problem and feel pain in myear and jaw plus mental problem like anxiety, brain fog, dizziness,some dp Dr and breath problem do you have problem with walnut and prune too? Some weeks ago I felt iam Heald but I eat them and going sick again a good news is I can do sport and walk again without any symptoms and I can tolerate ketchup and tomato and potato I can eat 🍫 chocolate and sugar again but I don't eat them much . Fluoxamine/Levox 200 mg Clonazepam/Klonopin 0.5 mg gm Trazodone 50mg Sreqel 25mg Bospar 5 mg Nortriptyline 25 mg All meds above abrupt (cold turkey)after 6 weeks of use in 2022 ......................................................... All of them from February 2022 to March 2022 and normally used! Had wild signs Every day from March 2023 until now Clomipramine/anafranil 25 mg daily 50 mg clomipramine/anafranil nightly Night 7.4 Mirtazapine/Remeron Link to comment
Sinanz Posted August 15, 2023 Author Share Posted August 15, 2023 Is that mean I lam close to end of turture? 🙄. Fluoxamine/Levox 200 mg Clonazepam/Klonopin 0.5 mg gm Trazodone 50mg Sreqel 25mg Bospar 5 mg Nortriptyline 25 mg All meds above abrupt (cold turkey)after 6 weeks of use in 2022 ......................................................... All of them from February 2022 to March 2022 and normally used! Had wild signs Every day from March 2023 until now Clomipramine/anafranil 25 mg daily 50 mg clomipramine/anafranil nightly Night 7.4 Mirtazapine/Remeron Link to comment
Sinanz Posted January 1 Author Share Posted January 1 Hello guys hope you doing fine after 21 month CT I feel better but if I eat food contain glutamate some symptoms rev up like flue , nausea, headache , burning body , I feel sick and so on , my anxiety better I am 15 month on clomipraine 75 mg to stable my symptoms but I really am scared to win off clomipraine and don't know when it is right time to do it😕. Some help wool be good tanks Fluoxamine/Levox 200 mg Clonazepam/Klonopin 0.5 mg gm Trazodone 50mg Sreqel 25mg Bospar 5 mg Nortriptyline 25 mg All meds above abrupt (cold turkey)after 6 weeks of use in 2022 ......................................................... All of them from February 2022 to March 2022 and normally used! Had wild signs Every day from March 2023 until now Clomipramine/anafranil 25 mg daily 50 mg clomipramine/anafranil nightly Night 7.4 Mirtazapine/Remeron Link to comment
Sinanz Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 Hello guys I finaly found out what is wrong with me!!! Iam vampire!!! Because I can not tolerate garlic !!! To day I ate some garlic and my skins burning my heart is pumping fast and I feel literarly Iam dying man !!! It is almost 24 month that from CT it is sucks. 😕 my anxiety and feeling butter fly gut is killing me ... Hello me help I want help god Fluoxamine/Levox 200 mg Clonazepam/Klonopin 0.5 mg gm Trazodone 50mg Sreqel 25mg Bospar 5 mg Nortriptyline 25 mg All meds above abrupt (cold turkey)after 6 weeks of use in 2022 ......................................................... All of them from February 2022 to March 2022 and normally used! Had wild signs Every day from March 2023 until now Clomipramine/anafranil 25 mg daily 50 mg clomipramine/anafranil nightly Night 7.4 Mirtazapine/Remeron Link to comment
Sinanz Posted April 10 Author Share Posted April 10 Hello every one !!! Good news Iam think that I have been almost healed couple weeks without any waves! Just I think if I get sick from covid I will have some muscle spasm and insomnia. But everything is just fine. I am back baby . Oh god this I am relieved? Or not ? I don't know but I can eat everything that I want and can go to gym. I love it. Hope all of you guys feel same things 1 Fluoxamine/Levox 200 mg Clonazepam/Klonopin 0.5 mg gm Trazodone 50mg Sreqel 25mg Bospar 5 mg Nortriptyline 25 mg All meds above abrupt (cold turkey)after 6 weeks of use in 2022 ......................................................... All of them from February 2022 to March 2022 and normally used! Had wild signs Every day from March 2023 until now Clomipramine/anafranil 25 mg daily 50 mg clomipramine/anafranil nightly Night 7.4 Mirtazapine/Remeron Link to comment
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