VA2202: bromazepam 3mg - nightmare

[Shep]

Since you've only been on that dose for 5 days, you may want to updose a little if the symptoms are too severe. I'm glad to read you'll be tapering slower going forth. You may want to even do less than 10%. Many people find that even 10% may be too much. 

 

Micro-taper instead of 10% or 5% decreases
Decreasing your dosage by very tiny amounts more often might be more tolerable than 5% or 10% decreases. Know your symptom pattern first so you can estimate how often you can reduce.

 

The Brassmonkey Slide Method of Micro-tapering

One way you can micro-taper.

[VA2202]

Hi @Shep

 

Sorry to come back to you so soon, but I will need an advice please. 

Basically, I had a very stressful week, absolutely nerve racking and in this morning I felt like I will go nuts, very bad tinnitus, chest pressure, brain fog, and very uncomfortable sensation like I can't control my self. 

Thing is I took my normal dose of 0.9, and because the states didn't fade away and I was feeling very bad I took another 0.6mg of bromazepam. Now I feel a bit better.  

Cause of this, from tomorrow can I go back to the normal ''schedule" of 0.9mg? 

I added from this morning Omega 3 Fish oil as well and took a Vitamin B complex, can this be a ''unpleasant mix'' for the states? 

I know I didn't do the right thing but is the first time this year when I'm overwhelmed with to many problems and too much stress in a very short period of time and I couldn't handle it any more. 

 

Thank you and sorry for being a nag ... 

 

V  

[Shep]

On 7/21/2023 at 5:13 AM, VA2202 said:

Thing is I took my normal dose of 0.9, and because the states didn't fade away and I was feeling very bad I took another 0.6mg of bromazepam. Now I feel a bit better.  

Cause of this, from tomorrow can I go back to the normal ''schedule" of 0.9mg? 

 

Yes, I would go back to your usual dose of 0.9 mg. I would look at the extra 0.6 mg as a rescue dose. It's okay to take a rescue dose during emergencies, but I wouldn't do it often. 

 

On 7/21/2023 at 5:13 AM, VA2202 said:

I added from this morning Omega 3 Fish oil as well and took a Vitamin B complex, can this be a ''unpleasant mix'' for the states? 

 

Only one change at a time. Please see:

 

The rule of 3KIS: Keep it simple. Keep it slow. Keep it stable.

 

We don't recommend the B complex type of vitamins (or any "complex") because if you have problems, you won't know which of the supplements included in the complex caused it. 

 

B vitamins or B vitamin complex

 

Here are some threads to read over as you time and energy involving several B vitamins:

 

Vitamin B3 (niacin, niacinamide)
 
Vitamin B8 (inositol)

Vitamin B12: essential for mood, nervous system

 

Unless you're a vegetarian, you may be getting all of the B12 you need through your food, especially if you're eating a clean, healthy diet. 

[VA2202]

Hi @Shep

 

I hope you are keeping well. 

This time what I will write you will sound silly or stupid, but I just realised I made a mistake and I don't know what should I do. 

In the last couple of months I had too much stress and way too many things going on and I just realised that I taper totally wrong; instead of going from 1mg to 0.9, I went to 0.09, and now everything makes sense why I feel so wired, I have constantly brain fog, shaking, I feel like my face muscles are twitching, I feel very agitated most of the time and anxious and the list can continue. 

What I want to ask, it is ok to upscale the dose as I should to 0.9mg and keep on going for one month and then  decrease another 10% and so on?

 

Kindest regards, 

 

V 

 

 

[Shep]

3 hours ago, VA2202 said:

In the last couple of months I had too much stress and way too many things going on and I just realised that I taper totally wrong; instead of going from 1mg to 0.9, I went to 0.09, and now everything makes sense why I feel so wired, I have constantly brain fog, shaking, I feel like my face muscles are twitching, I feel very agitated most of the time and anxious and the list can continue. 

What I want to ask, it is ok to upscale the dose as I should to 0.9mg and keep on going for one month and then  decrease another 10% and so on?

 

I'm glad you caught this error. When did you from from 1 mg to 0.09 mg? Do you have the date? Your signature stops at "1.17 mg from end of April."

 

The farther you are out from the reduction, the more time your nervous system has had to adjust to the decrease, so if it's been more than, say, a couple of weeks, you may not want to go all the way back up to 0.9 mg. 

[VA2202]

I'm glad you caught this error. When did you from from 1 mg to 0.09 mg? Do you have the date? Your signature stops at "1.17 mg from end of April."

 

The farther you are out from the reduction, the more time your nervous system has had to adjust to the decrease, so if it's been more than, say, a couple of weeks, you may not want to go all the way back up to 0.9 mg. 

 

Hi @Shep

 

Are already 24 days, in the next 6 days I'm having the next drop...drop cause now is already way too low the dose I suppose. 

To be honest with you I experienced almost all the benzos withdrawal symptoms, apart from the ''heavy ones'' and I don't feel that I want to up-dose; the mental ones are very disturbing, like I'm not connected with what's going on around, the brain fog, loosing the control and ''go insane'' and the constant anxiety sensation, and all the time I got thru all this sensations somehow. Didn't had absolutely no problems with sleep. 

I even dropped all the vitamins B's, C's and so on, I'm just taking Magnesium once a day. 

I wasn't planning to do so, but as I mentioned, I had a very turbulent period of time in the past few weeks and everything went very chaotic and just today I realised. 

Now what should I do? Should I keep this dose for few more weeks?

 

Any suggestion, will be much appreciated. 

 

Regards, 

 

V  

[Shep]

18 hours ago, VA2202 said:

Are already 24 days, in the next 6 days I'm having the next drop...drop cause now is already way too low the dose I suppose. 

To be honest with you I experienced almost all the benzos withdrawal symptoms, apart from the ''heavy ones'' and I don't feel that I want to up-dose; the mental ones are very disturbing, like I'm not connected with what's going on around, the brain fog, loosing the control and ''go insane'' and the constant anxiety sensation, and all the time I got thru all this sensations somehow. Didn't had absolutely no problems with sleep. 

 

Please do not make another drop in 6 days. The reduction from 1 mg to .09 mg was a 90% reduction. This is almost a cold turkey.

 

Since it's been less than a month, I would updose to 0.25 mg and see how you feel. Your system is already adjusting to the lower dose, so you don't want to go all the way back up to 1 mg, but you could start at 0.25 mg to see if your symptoms improve and perhaps go back up to 0.50 mg if you do well with the 0.25 mg dose. 

 

Are you still taking doxepin? In your signature, you have "25mg doxepin, stopped in spring 2022" but you also have in red "2. Doxepin 25mg - 1 pill in the afternoon - 1 pill every evening"

[VA2202]

Hi @Shep

 

Yes, I still take the doxepin during the evenings. 

 

Should I up-dose starting from tomorrow?

For how long should I stay on 0.25? And then when to drop? 

 

I had somehow a ''peace of mind'' last evening realising what I had done and realising that all the symptoms that I got thru in the last few weeks was just cause of this. I want to thank you once again for your support. 

 

Regards, 

 

V 

 

 

[Shep]

49 minutes ago, VA2202 said:

Should I up-dose starting from tomorrow?

 

I would go ahead and start today if possible. Time is really of the essence. It's okay if it's too late to take it at your usual time today. I would go ahead and get a bit more of this drug in your system as soon as possible. 

 

53 minutes ago, VA2202 said:

For how long should I stay on 0.25? And then when to drop? 

 

Your symptoms will guide you. 

 

Please report back how you do with the updose. 

 

Also, please update your signature to include your benzo changes since April. A direct link to your signature is here:

 

Account Settings – Create or Edit a signature

[VA2202]

Hi @Shep

 

I hope you are doing well. 

I come with and update, everything is going fine for me, just small things like headaches, drowsiness and minor things ... 

One thing that I come across are bruises, that appear randomly or on the legs or on the arms, don't hurt or something but they appear once or twice during the month. Is this something to do with the withdraw or with tapering? I had a look now on the website and I've seen that quite a lot of people had this and I just wondering is this is normal and what's the reason behind it? 

 

I mentioned before, I done already this year two blood tests, nothing showed up. 

 

Thank you, 

 

V

[Shep]

@VA2202 Unusual bleeding or bruising is listed as a side effect of Doxepin - Doxepin side effects. Could be that or a withdrawal effect. Since you already got checked out, hopefully you'll see less of this as you continue tapering and recovering from withdrawal. 

[VA2202]

Hi @Shep

 

Thank you for your replay. 

I just dropped again by 10% from Monday the bromazepam, and as usual and I was expecting that first few days until the body will adapt, numbness in the left arm, jaw, and the left leg, headaches, light head, arms shacking, pinches, muscle aches and tight chest. I know will last for few days but and then will be ok, the numbness is the thing that scares me a lot all the time and drives me mad psychically.  

The only single thing that helps is the B complex, in some of the days works, today seems like not.

I asked about the bruises, because few days ago suddenly I got one under my arm from no where; same thing happened on the legs and on the arms from the moment I started to tapper. No issues on the blood tests so this was the only thing that was coming thru my head, that can be from these pills     

 

I'll keep you updated how the things go. 

 

Thank you once again. 

 

V

 

 

 

[Shep]

@VA2202 It sounds like you're tapering too fast. You may want to slow down, and perhaps switch to the Brassmonkey Slide so the reductions are smaller, weekly reductions instead of one large monthly reduction. 

The Brassmonkey Slide Method of Micro-tapering

 

20 hours ago, VA2202 said:

I know will last for few days but and then will be ok, the numbness is the thing that scares me a lot all the time and drives me mad psychically.  

 

I would slow the taper down. Perhaps go with 5% monthly reductions. You could do this by reducing 1.25% each week. That would be much gentler on your nervous system. Also, make sure you're holding long enough. In that link, Brassmonkey explains how to do the slide method with 4 weekly reductions followed by a two week hold. This gives your body time to recover. You can hold longer if you need. 

[VA2202]

@Shep

 

Good Morning, 

 

I need to ask few more questions if you can help me with a suggestion. With the bromazepam I am tapering as slow as I can and it works, when I reached 0.9 I stayed 2 months and I was fine.

Now my problem is how to tapper Doxepin? As long as the pill doesn't have any markings, you cant  crush it or cut it. 

Or will be better idea to stay a little while on doxepin? The only reason I'm asking is, that from the moment I started to do to one day to take it and one not, I started to have very bad tinitus, most of the noises started to amplify, a wired pressure in both ears and some wired headaches. I know that's the signs of taking out doxepin, as is not the first time,  from the system but I can't handle it as for the moment I am in very stressful period of time. 

 

Thank you, 

 

V

 

 

[VA2202]

I forgot to add something. 

I got some plant based tablet ST JOHNS WORT EXTRACT https://www.hollandandbarrett.com/shop/product/hri-good-mood-st-john-s-wort-tablets-60094875?skuid=094875&utm_campaign=shopping&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&gclid=CjwKCAjw6p-oBhAYEiwAgg2PghF5oMUiirMT7A6nSVer-c3GPT9X9HJ0m-RMEoNkJMdgQtVuzrsJbRoCDlwQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

I took few times when I felt I am too anxious and very agitated. Will be a good idea to take them for a while? 

Thank you and sorry for all the head aches. 

 

V  

[Shep]

@VA2202 Please read through the this thread, as it discusses how you can taper doxepin:

 

Tips for tapering doxepin (Sinequan, Zonalon)

 

You can crush Doxepin and use a scale or you can make your own liquid (Doxepin is water soluble). 

 

After you read through that thread, please let us know if you have any questions. 

 

1 minute ago, VA2202 said:

I took few times when I felt I am too anxious and very agitated. Will be a good idea to take them for a while? 

 

St. John's Wort is extremely problematic for anyone taking serotonin drugs because combining these may lead to serotonin syndrome. Please see:

 

St. John's Wort (Hypericum Perforatum)

 

How often have you taken St. John's Wort? We have a number of members here who've taken this supplement long enough to become dependent and have had to taper off it, sometimes with similar results to coming off an antidepressant, so this is definitely not something you want to rely on to cope with withdrawal from other drugs. The best way to cope with withdrawal is to do a slow taper and to hold when needed. Please be very, very careful with adding in supplements. 

[VA2202]

2 minutes ago, Shep said:

How often have you taken St. John's Wort? We have a number of members here who've taken this supplement long enough to become dependent and have had to taper off it, sometimes with similar results to coming off an antidepressant, so this is definitely not something you want to rely on to cope with withdrawal from other drugs. The best way to cope with withdrawal is to do a slow taper and to hold when needed. Please be very, very careful with adding in supplements. 

Hi @Shep

 

I took just for couple of times, in case of urgency, and yes you are right, I was just reading an article about it and seems that is not an option. 

I will hold the doxepin till the end of the month and then I will slowly start to taper by 10%. 

 

Much appreciated once again. 

 

V

[Shep]

1 hour ago, VA2202 said:

I will hold the doxepin till the end of the month and then I will slowly start to taper by 10%. 

 

Have you been tapering bromazepam? Which drug is the one that helps the most for sleep - doxepin or bromazepam? 

 

Quote

2. Doxepin 25mg - Monday the 11th of September, alternating one day yes and one day no during the evening for a month 

 

The above quote is from your current signature, but a few weeks ago, I noted this:

 

On 8/7/2023 at 5:13 AM, Shep said:

 

Are you still taking doxepin? In your signature, you have "25mg doxepin, stopped in spring 2022" but you also have in red "2. Doxepin 25mg - 1 pill in the afternoon - 1 pill every evening"

 

Please stop changing your signature like this. It makes it very hard to give advice. It looks like you're changing your drugs around to target symptoms, which is dangerous and may lead to kindling. We do not recommend alternating days - see: Do not take your drug every other day

 

The point of the signature is so we have a chronological listing of your changes so we know the changes you have made over the previous months. Please see:

 

How to Summarize Your Drug History in Your Signature

 

 

[VA2202]

22 minutes ago, Shep said:

Have you been tapering bromazepam? Which drug is the one that helps the most for sleep - doxepin or bromazepam? 

Yes I am tapering the bromazepam. The one that helps me with sleep is doxepin. 

 

22 minutes ago, Shep said:

Please stop changing your signature like this. It makes it very hard to give advice. It looks like you're changing your drugs around to target symptoms, which is dangerous and may lead to kindling. We do not recommend alternating days - see: Do not take your drug every other day

I didn't knew about this, in the past, in 2022 I managed to take out doxepin without any problem, now I understood the issue and I will not to this alternative, it makes a lot of sense why I have all this symptoms. I've just realised now that I've done a mistake in the signature and I will change it now. 

I will reinstate the doxepin at the moment without any stops and start to taper when I will feel prepared - I got the idea by 10%. 

 

Sorry for mistake in the signature, my apologies. 

 

V

[Shep]

23 hours ago, VA2202 said:

Yes I am tapering the bromazepam. The one that helps me with sleep is doxepin. 

 

This is good. You'll want to taper the drug that helps the most with sleep last, so staying on the doxepin and taking it at the same time of evening and at the same dose every day is important. 

 

Thanks for updating your signature. Please let us know how you're doing and check in before your next reduction. 

 

 

[VA2202]

Hi @Shep

 

I'm passing thru a very stressful period of time, due to some events at the work place, basically tomorrow and Thursday I have two interviews for a new job(I don't feel confident in my body at the moment); all this process of looking, sending e-mails, staying on the phones in the past 4 week and plus the taper left me in a very uncomfortable ''zone''. 

 

Basically, in the last few weeks after I dropped to 0.8mg, my hands are shaking almost constantly, very bad muscle aches, brain fog from time to time, chest pressure, muscle twitching, bad sleep(yesterday was first night after 3 weeks when I slept thru the entire night without waking up), muscle spasms thru the legs and on the stomach, paresthsia on the left side of the face(not so bad like in the past), nausea, hair loss, feel like I don't have energy to get out of the house, panic attacks from time to time and the thing that made me to write was that yesterday for 30 min I had the most intense state of restlessness like I never had before.   

 

Tomorrow will be a month after the drop, but I will stay for another month at least; my question is how long a wave can take usually, as I know is a wave after the drop? As I read, is unpredictable, I've seen many opinions, from 4 weeks up to 6 weeks. Can be all this states related to the stress period that I'm passing thru, also?

 

What I observed during thru all the period that I started to tapper is that the only single thing that makes me to work properly is to be active all the time, move, move and move and do something all the time and disturb/distress my brain from symptoms which can be very hard and bring me to a total state of tiredness. As far as I remember, I read somewhere that benzo and alcohol withdraw can bring you in this state of restlessness and you have to be active all the time to succeed. Is overwhelming... feels sometimes like passing thru hell(I can't describe it ortherwise).  

 

Another thing that I want to point out, is that I'm taking calcium every afternoon, and helps but not much. What I didn't understood and I'm a bit confused, what is the best calcium or magnesium? 

 

I know I will succeed, but like I said sometimes is overwhelming and gets you to a state that you can't coop. Deep breath, calming down knowing that is another panic attack or what ever other symptom and carry on ... 

 

All the best to all. 

 

V 

 

[Shep]

2 hours ago, VA2202 said:

Tomorrow will be a month after the drop, but I will stay for another month at least; my question is how long a wave can take usually, as I know is a wave after the drop? As I read, is unpredictable, I've seen many opinions, from 4 weeks up to 6 weeks. Can be all this states related to the stress period that I'm passing thru, also?

 

Having outside stress can definitely cause upticks in symptoms. Yes, as you've noted, the waves are unpredictable. The more you can do to help your nervous system along, the better. This could be yoga, eating healthy, drinking plenty of water, getting outside for a 30 minute walk in the sun and in nature, if possible. Talking to friends and staying connected is also important. 

 

2 hours ago, VA2202 said:

I'm passing thru a very stressful period of time, due to some events at the work place, basically tomorrow and Thursday I have two interviews for a new job(I don't feel confident in my body at the moment); all this process of looking, sending e-mails, staying on the phones in the past 4 week and plus the taper left me in a very uncomfortable ''zone''.

 

Is this new job something you think may be too much for you right now? Would you be more comfortable staying in your current job for now? Try not to take on more than you can carry right now. If you're financially able to stay in a lower stress job until you've recovered from these drugs, that's okay. You can always go for a better job once you've recovered and are in the re-build phase of this journey. 

 

2 hours ago, VA2202 said:

Another thing that I want to point out, is that I'm taking calcium every afternoon, and helps but not much. What I didn't understood and I'm a bit confused, what is the best calcium or magnesium? 

 

People react to different forms of supplements differently, so you'll be the best judge of which is best for you.

 

However, I wouldn't take calcium and magnesium at the same time. As Alto notes, calcium and magnesium should be taken at least 2 hours apart: 

 

On 10/7/2011 at 3:22 PM, Altostrata said:

PLEASE NOTE:  Some magnesium tablets contain additional ingredients. B vitamins can be activating, especially vitamin B6.

 

Calcium cancels the calming effect of magnesium and the 2 should be taken at least 2 hours apart.

 

 

You may have already seen these threads, but just case, here they are:

 

Magnesium, nature's calcium channel blocker

 

Calcium

 

 

[VA2202]

1 hour ago, Shep said:

Is this new job something you think may be too much for you right now? Would you be more comfortable staying in your current job for now? Try not to take on more than you can carry right now. If you're financially able to stay in a lower stress job until you've recovered from these drugs, that's okay. You can always go for a better job once you've recovered and are in the re-build phase of this journey. 

That's the problem, is not the best situation right now for me, being at part time will not cover all the expenses and so on. The jobs that I applied for and I have the interviews give me the possibility to move more(be much more active) and socialise more, thing that is not happening in the current role that I have, being trapped in office job, and most of the time being alone. 

 

As much as I move, and I'm doing something physically I feel fine. I'll see how will go and hope the symptoms will parish soon. 

 

Thank you, 

 

V     

[Shep]

Good luck with the interviews, @VA2202. Let us know how you do. 

[VA2202]

Hi @Shep, Hi Everyone, 

 

I hope you are keeping well. 

Can you please help me with some answers to couple of questions:

1. It is normal to have from time to time hot spells and shivers during the withdrawal period, that can take several hours? Thing is, yesterday evening I experienced something new, hot spells all over my back and arms for almost two hours, and from time to time shivers not longer than 30 min. 

2. It is normal, to appear bruises from middle of nowhere, on the arms and legs and after couple of days to disappear? I was reading on the site that people experienced this kind of situation, but for me all started from spring when I started the tapering process; I had a period of 2 months when nothing happened and now all of the sudden, I have bruises that are appearing and disagreeing. I want to mention that I didn't hit my self or done something. 

3. Skin rush and skin sensitivity... I got all along the legs red dots, like needles, I am applying loads of creams but nothing seems to work. The veins also tend to be more pronounced on the legs, and this is not giving me a peace of mind. On top of this I developed skin sensitivity too cold, if is too cold I feel all the skin itching and like electric shocks.  

 

In rest, everything seems to be normal, no problems with anxiety, no problems with blood pressure, nothing major to scare me.  

I managed to get at 0.77mg right now, still a long way to run but I see already the end and I can't wait the day when this will be over. 

 

Thank you and all the best, 

 

V  

[VA2202]

Hi to All, 

 

Is someone available to please respond to one question:

Did someone during tapering period had the wired physical sensation like ,,like a wave of energy trying to get out from the body''?  Sounds very silly, but I can't described it better than this, and seem to be very overwhelming and very disturbing. 

The only thing that I think about can be depersonalisation. 

I just dropped 2 days ago from 0,68 to 0,66mg 

 

@Altostrata or any of the admins if you can please respond.

 

Thank you 

[LotusRising]

Hi @VA2202,

 

This doesn't sound silly to me at all. It's in fact a common symptom. I had it a lot in the beginning of my taper, but now only experience it once in a while. To me, it felt like electricity coursing through my body, but wasn't usually painful. 

 

Have you seen the threads below? You might find some relatable experiences in them.

 

 

[DataGuy]

@VA2202 are you still getting the skin rash? This can sometimes happen during withdrawal. I experienced it myself and know others who have as well. 

 

A couple potential solutions: 1) slow down the taper (or even pause), or 2) try rinsing your clothes in clear water after washing them to make sure all the detergent is removed. Sometimes people develop chemical sensitivity in withdrawal.

[bunchesofoats]

On 2/20/2024 at 4:14 AM, VA2202 said:

wired physical sensation like ,,like a wave of energy trying to get out from the body

I've experienced something like this many times. I call them body rushes, and often I would get them mostly in the early hours of the morning. It was very bizarre to me to experience such strong sensations out of seemingly nowhere. It's a common withdrawal symptom, and it's not surprising given your recent drop.

 

Stay put at your current dose until your symptoms subside. Meanwhile, see if you can calm your nervous system down by doing some deep breathing and relaxing stretches. I like the 4-7-8 method because it's relatively easy to remember and focus on, even when my mind wants to race. I also really like this yoga pose for releasing tension and emotions. I hold it for 20 minutes.

 

 

 

[VA2202]

@LotusRising @DataGuy @bunchesofoats Much appreciated for your replays.  

 

I know for a fact that right now I'm on a ''wave'', been many times in this roller coster and I know how is going to be the ride for couple of days. 

Are you still getting the skin rash? - yes from time to time, itching, red spots that appear and disappear. 

I initially started the taper ''on a fast pace'' on 10%, didn't went good at all and now in going very slow, at 2.5% at the moment, with an interval of 3 weeks staying on the same value. I know is very slow, I know is very low dosage, but I'm not in rush and I am somehow ''scared'' cause of the withdrawal symptoms. 

Probably this wave will be different as I just quit smoking for a week and ''I don't fell good'' most of time, headaches, dizziness, irascibility, mood swings and so on. 

On top of all this, and I know for a fact, and this is very clear a withdrawal sign, depersonalisation is a every day thing, feel like a robot, I can't sympathise with nothing around me, brain fog and so on; happen before, I am very aware about everything that is around me (other wise I wasn't enable to drive for the passed month and a half more than 2000mile across UK) but sometimes is scary and you don't know what can you expect. 

 

I know everything will be ok, can't wait the day to be BENZO FREE. 

 

Thank you once again for your support 🙏  

 

 

[VA2202]

Good Afternoon, 

 

I have a question that is coming thru my mind for few days, I know that probably will not the the best option and is not a race to get faster to the finish line, but I can't endure the withdrawal symptoms: head aches, tremor, depersonalisation, feeling anxious from time to time, no self-esteem, skin rushes, tinitus and brain fog. 

 

Even I have all these symptoms I'm most of the time fully functional; the only single impediment, unfortunately I can't do nothing about is the weather which is ''tearing me to pieces'', the pressure has very big fluctuations almost every 2 days and as I read other threads, I'm not the only with this issue. For some reason for couple of years I developed meteo sensibility...I'm leaving in the UK and as probably most of you know, the weather over here is extremely unpredictable and annoying.  I can't even remember honestly when I enjoyed last time a sunny and warm day.  

 

What I want to ask - As I mentioned before I am on a very slow taper right now, my value is 0.66mg at the 2.5% dropping, with a period of 3 weeks hold. If I'm keeping this pace I will get rid off the the bromazepam just in few years ... Will be a good idea to start to tapper at 10% and increase my doxepin dose at 50mg, one in the afternoon and one before sleep? 

I keep the same schedule from the beginning of 2023 - bromazepam in the morning and the doxepin in the evening. Doxepin helped me a lot with sleeping and calming down. 

 

Another mention is that I start to take all the time after taking bromazepam, 5ml of omega 3 fish oil and in first instance I can say that helps a lot. 

 

Thank you 

 

 

[LotusRising]

Can you please confirm what you mean by 2.5% - is this weekly, or monthly?

 

On 3/10/2024 at 10:26 AM, VA2202 said:

Will be a good idea to start to tapper at 10% and increase my doxepin dose at 50mg, one in the afternoon and one before sleep?

Is there a reason you want to increase your doxepin?

[VA2202]

Hi @LotusRising

 

2.5% monthly, I'm going in the most slowest pace, like a snail; main reason - being afraid of the withdrawal symptoms. 

I'm saying about the doxepin as I ''safety net'' in case the withdrawal will ''hit me hard'' -  I don't know if is a good idea? As I mentioned above, doxepin helps me with sleep mainly and is giving a state of calmness.  

 

Because of states from the last few days, I remained at 0.66 for one more week, even from today I should meant to drop at 0.64mg. 

 

Thank you,

 

V

[LotusRising]

1 minute ago, VA2202 said:

I'm saying about the doxepin as I ''safety net'' in case the withdrawal will ''hit me hard''

Personally, I would not increase the doxepin as  safety net for WD symptoms. One, you have no idea if it will help WD symptoms and two, you then have that much more to taper off. 

 

If 2.5% monthly is too much, you can always drop it down to 1.25%. We're all different with different sensitivities, but more medication is not necessarily the answer.

[VA2202]

Much appreciated for your answer; I will keep the slow pace without any other alterations in the process and I will keep an update. 

 

Thank you once again and all the best