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Just over 11 months off. Windows and waves are still happening. I’ve made huge progress when I look back to some months ago. Sleep has improved, I still have little appetite, my waves don’t seem to be as awful as they used to be. 
although I get impatient at times, I’m remaining hopeful. It’s like I have to learn that there are ups and downs in life. While on Effexor, nothing really bothered me. I was very numb to emotions. Now, I am very emotional and it’s new. Progressing and learning. 💜

17 years on 150 mg Effexor.

started taper to 75 mg October 29, 2022

went to 37.5mg December 20, 2022

0 on January 27, 2023

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1 hour ago, 2cats2272 said:

I’ve made huge progress when I look back to some months ago.

 

I'm so happy to hear this @2cats2272!  I always say this, but your posts always give me hope about my own situation as I resumed my Effexor taper yesterday.  I'm sure your windows will get bigger and your waves smaller as time goes on.  I'm glad you're remaining hopeful.  Our wonderfully designed bodies know what to do to heal with time.  Keep up the great work!

 

Catina 😻

Disclaimer:  This is not professional medical advice but is based on personal experience only.

1994 - 2017:  Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Paxil, Wellbutrin, Zoloft, Seroquel, Buspar, Lorazepam, Xanax, Ambien

2005-present:  Trazodone 50 mg 

2017:  Effexor XR 37.5 >> 75 mg 

2020 (March):  Began 10% monthly taper of Effexor XR (got down to 12 mg)

2021 (September):  Completely crashed.  Went back up to 37.5 mg but in doing so I kindled myself

2024:  1/1:  35.6 mg (-6 beads)  |  2/1:  33.8 mg (-11 beads)  |  3/1:  32.1 mg (-16 beads)  |   4/1:  (-18 beads)

Reasons for starting psych meds:  PMDD/Depression, Generalized Anxiety Disorder

Other medications:  Levothyroxine 75 mcg

Supplements:  Dr. Berg's Electrolyte Powder on occasion   

 

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18 hours ago, 2cats2272 said:

Just over 11 months off. Windows and waves are still happening. I’ve made huge progress when I look back to some months ago. Sleep has improved, I still have little appetite, my waves don’t seem to be as awful as they used to be. 
although I get impatient at times, I’m remaining hopeful. It’s like I have to learn that there are ups and downs in life. While on Effexor, nothing really bothered me. I was very numb to emotions. Now, I am very emotional and it’s new. Progressing and learning. 💜

I'm so glad that you are making progress! Onward and upward!

2000: Feb: went on Paxil 20mg

2019: Feb: came off Paxil 20mg bridged to Prozac 20mg over 2 weeks.

2019: June: BAD TIME: had mother of all WD waves

2019: July: went on Effexor XR 150mg and WD symptoms stopped.

2020: Dec: started 10% per month taper from 150mg.

2021: Steadily dropped dose with some WDs but manageable.

2022: mid April- had terrible WDs in drop from 50mg to 45mg.
2022: 25 April-reinstated at 50mg

04/25/22--09/30/22: 50mg 10/31/22: 47.1mg 11/30/22: 42.3mg 12/31/22: 37.5mg 01/31/23: 33mg 02/28/23: 28.5mg 03/31/23: 24mg 04/30/23: 19.5mg 05/30/23: 16.5mg 06/30/23: 12mg 07/31/23: 9mg 08/31/23: 6mg 9/30/23: Back to 6mg (tried to switch to bead counting and miscalculated) 10/30/23: 5.1mg SEVERE WDs 11/8/23: 5.7mg UPDOSED 12/31/23: 6mg 1/1/24: 6.6mg

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Today is 1 year off Effexor. This last year had been like nothing I could have ever anticipated. I wasn’t prepared for the things I went through. I was told the same thing most of us are…. “You’ll feel flu like symptoms for a week or two”. 
well, one entire year later and I could never have thought I’d feel better. I am putting in the work. I still get waves. They’re relatively short lived and I hope it continues. 
I had my first ever appointment with a psychiatrist a couple weeks ago. I was shocked with what he said. He said I’m doing all the right things and he wouldn’t prescribe me anything (I wouldn’t have taken it anyhow). 
just know that what most people say is try. The biggest help is time. I’m sure all the other little things help too. 
I started therapy once withdrawal hit. I got regular massage and chiropractic adjustments. There were some really dark and tough times but if I could make it this far and can be a tiny ray of hope to anyone, I’m grateful for my journey. 
im fully expecting more waves but I feel better equipped to manage them. 

17 years on 150 mg Effexor.

started taper to 75 mg October 29, 2022

went to 37.5mg December 20, 2022

0 on January 27, 2023

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Great news @2cats2272!  I'm very happy for the progress you've made.  You're more than a "tiny ray of hope" to me!  🥰

Disclaimer:  This is not professional medical advice but is based on personal experience only.

1994 - 2017:  Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Paxil, Wellbutrin, Zoloft, Seroquel, Buspar, Lorazepam, Xanax, Ambien

2005-present:  Trazodone 50 mg 

2017:  Effexor XR 37.5 >> 75 mg 

2020 (March):  Began 10% monthly taper of Effexor XR (got down to 12 mg)

2021 (September):  Completely crashed.  Went back up to 37.5 mg but in doing so I kindled myself

2024:  1/1:  35.6 mg (-6 beads)  |  2/1:  33.8 mg (-11 beads)  |  3/1:  32.1 mg (-16 beads)  |   4/1:  (-18 beads)

Reasons for starting psych meds:  PMDD/Depression, Generalized Anxiety Disorder

Other medications:  Levothyroxine 75 mcg

Supplements:  Dr. Berg's Electrolyte Powder on occasion   

 

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@2cats2272 Great news! So happy for you! 🥰

2000: Feb: went on Paxil 20mg

2019: Feb: came off Paxil 20mg bridged to Prozac 20mg over 2 weeks.

2019: June: BAD TIME: had mother of all WD waves

2019: July: went on Effexor XR 150mg and WD symptoms stopped.

2020: Dec: started 10% per month taper from 150mg.

2021: Steadily dropped dose with some WDs but manageable.

2022: mid April- had terrible WDs in drop from 50mg to 45mg.
2022: 25 April-reinstated at 50mg

04/25/22--09/30/22: 50mg 10/31/22: 47.1mg 11/30/22: 42.3mg 12/31/22: 37.5mg 01/31/23: 33mg 02/28/23: 28.5mg 03/31/23: 24mg 04/30/23: 19.5mg 05/30/23: 16.5mg 06/30/23: 12mg 07/31/23: 9mg 08/31/23: 6mg 9/30/23: Back to 6mg (tried to switch to bead counting and miscalculated) 10/30/23: 5.1mg SEVERE WDs 11/8/23: 5.7mg UPDOSED 12/31/23: 6mg 1/1/24: 6.6mg

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Really great to see you’re doing ok! Proud of you.

Medication History:

Prozac: January 2020-August 2020

Zoloft: August 2020-October 2020

Mirtazapine: October 2020-November 2020

Risperidone: October 2020-May 2021

Effexor XR: November 2020-July 2023

- Highest dose of 225mg. Began tapering in June of 2022. Last dose on July 17th, 2023.

 

Supplements: Generic Men’s Multivitamin; Probiotic; 250mg Magnesium 2x daily; Omega 3/6/9 vitamins

 

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Hi guys! I’m still doing ok but the last week or so I have been riddled with rumination and intrusive thoughts. I’m thinking it’s part of the process but am looking for similar experiences.

my therapist also thinks it’s just working through things but frig. It’s really tough. 

17 years on 150 mg Effexor.

started taper to 75 mg October 29, 2022

went to 37.5mg December 20, 2022

0 on January 27, 2023

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Hope this finds you in a “window day”  I’m just connecting with people who have been on Effexor for a long time…I’m curious to know why you decided to stop these meds,… I struggle with my decision… 

 

yes, the intense intrusive thoughts are the worse, I can handle most physical symptoms but the mind working against me is the hardest thing I’ve had to do in my entire life! 

On Venlafaxine for 30 years, 150mg

2018 first tapered, over 2 months, horrible crashed, reinstated 3 months later

February 2023, tapering again, every 4 weeks reduced by 50%  150mg down to 37:5mg 

June 2023, from 37.5, broke open capsule, started tapering by one bead at a time every 2 weeks 

August, 2023 stopped last bead. 
Nov, 2023, started Saint John Wort, 600mg, 3x a day = 1800mg  -

                                  reduced 1 capsules 300mg on Feb 15, 2024
 

Supplements, 

magnesium bisglycinate, B complex, multivitamin, Omega 3 complex, Vitamin D3, digestive enzymes

also, use L-Theanine, occasionally natural GABA,  - stopped this in Jan 2024

For H.Pylori- Manuka Honey, 850mgo, Mastica Chios gum, Kefir, & probiotics 

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@Kaylaq the only thing that made me decide to come off Effexor is I thought I was on it long enough. 
being off made me realize how emotionally blunted I was though. 
today is a bit better but still managing 

17 years on 150 mg Effexor.

started taper to 75 mg October 29, 2022

went to 37.5mg December 20, 2022

0 on January 27, 2023

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Thank you for answering so quickly, 👍🏻🙏🏻😊  

On Venlafaxine for 30 years, 150mg

2018 first tapered, over 2 months, horrible crashed, reinstated 3 months later

February 2023, tapering again, every 4 weeks reduced by 50%  150mg down to 37:5mg 

June 2023, from 37.5, broke open capsule, started tapering by one bead at a time every 2 weeks 

August, 2023 stopped last bead. 
Nov, 2023, started Saint John Wort, 600mg, 3x a day = 1800mg  -

                                  reduced 1 capsules 300mg on Feb 15, 2024
 

Supplements, 

magnesium bisglycinate, B complex, multivitamin, Omega 3 complex, Vitamin D3, digestive enzymes

also, use L-Theanine, occasionally natural GABA,  - stopped this in Jan 2024

For H.Pylori- Manuka Honey, 850mgo, Mastica Chios gum, Kefir, & probiotics 

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good evening, I stopped because my body could no longer support any ssri. I couldn't sleep anymore, sweating, depression. my theory is that I developed tardy dysporia (see google tardiv dysphoria by riff el mallakh). I actually contacted this researcher. I had to stop quickly due to significant side effects after 13 and a half years on it.

I reduced over a month (from 150 to 0) and the first 2 months went rather well apart from the aggression, impatience and reproaches to my wife.

then the withdrawal devastated me: omnipresent intrusive thoughts, obsessive thoughts, major anxiety and panic attacks, excessive worry, depression, insomnia, lack of appetite, difficulty concentrating, thinking, apathy, feeling of unease with colleagues and at work, feeling of strangeness, questioning of my whole life (my choices, my lifestyle, my work). wherever I am, I feel bad. I often have the impression that the people around me at work perceive my discomfort and see that something is wrong. I find it difficult to bear each new difficulty. the stress invades me so much in the morning. I even thought I was falling into schisophrenia.

I've been at zero for 19 weeks and it's so difficult. I have often thought about taking it again but I remember that I also threw it very badly with the undesirable effects. I do not know what to do. the only thing that helps me is benadryl (12.5 mg for sleep) but I don't want to take it every day for addiction and dependence, and it acts a little on the sertonin (which can hinder the process healing). the plants sometimes knock me out and the next day I'm groggy. I also take fish oil and 250 mg of tryptophan.

 

I hope these intrusive thoughts will disappear. for my psychiatrist, it's the illness that is coming back (except that I didn't take them for depression but for anxiety). sometimes I tell myself that I am doomed.

 

Cannabis 1998, 3 gr par jour

2005_2008 effexor 75mg pour " impulsivité "   Mai 2008 arrêt à la dinde froide. Tout va bien, 2 semaines de sevrage. Je vais bien.  09/2009 effexor 75 mg

04/2020 changement de prozac. 25mg

11/2021 30 mg prozac  06/2022 arrêter le cannabis prendre theralène 5 mg deux mois pour dormir  09/2022 arrêter prozac 30 mg , escitalopram 15 mg stop théralène rien pour dormir  11/2022 arrêter l'escitalopram (désir de suicide) et prendre du prozac 30mg  

prendre un soir du théralène 5mg ou de la mélatonine 2mg ou du xanax 0,5 mg.

11/2022 - 20/01/2023 prozac 30mg

03/03/2023 ct prozac => 150 mg effexor

arrêter les médicaments pour dormir. Prenez du cannabis 1 gr pour dormir.

17/09/2023 beginning the réduction in hospital  for intolerable side effect.

23/10 /2023 : 0 effexor, 0 cannabis.

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