pwanzo Posted July 16, 2023 Author Share Posted July 16, 2023 The panic feeling seems to have lessened. 1 April 2021 lexapro 15mg April 2023 pristiq 25 mg I stopped taking lexapro because I began having panic attacks while on it still. so my dr switched me to Zoloft. Was on that for a few weeks along with buspar 15mg 3 x a day and ended up at the hospital for 8 days from sever panic and horrible migraines. They put me back on lexapro and i was still struggling. My provider wanted to switch the class entirely due to the situation I was in. So she moved me to pristiq and took me off the buspar because of severe brain fog. After coming off buspar I began to feel good again and was just soo sick and tired of all of the different meds being thrown at me I just wanted off of everything because I didn’t know what was causing what. End of May beginning of june 2023 took pristiq 25 mg every other day for a week then stopped. Med free since June 5th. Off pristiq 5 weeks was having horrible depression nausea, and brain zaps. Reinstated Effexor XR 7/7/23 10 beads out of 37.5 capsule Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted July 16, 2023 Administrator Share Posted July 16, 2023 What times of day are the weird sensations in your legs worst? Please describe these sensations further. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
pwanzo Posted July 16, 2023 Author Share Posted July 16, 2023 Usually in the mornings. Sometimes it’s burning sensations. Sometimes feels like a weak cramp or pressure feeling. April 2021 lexapro 15mg April 2023 pristiq 25 mg I stopped taking lexapro because I began having panic attacks while on it still. so my dr switched me to Zoloft. Was on that for a few weeks along with buspar 15mg 3 x a day and ended up at the hospital for 8 days from sever panic and horrible migraines. They put me back on lexapro and i was still struggling. My provider wanted to switch the class entirely due to the situation I was in. So she moved me to pristiq and took me off the buspar because of severe brain fog. After coming off buspar I began to feel good again and was just soo sick and tired of all of the different meds being thrown at me I just wanted off of everything because I didn’t know what was causing what. End of May beginning of june 2023 took pristiq 25 mg every other day for a week then stopped. Med free since June 5th. Off pristiq 5 weeks was having horrible depression nausea, and brain zaps. Reinstated Effexor XR 7/7/23 10 beads out of 37.5 capsule Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted July 16, 2023 Administrator Share Posted July 16, 2023 I would try increasing the Effexor a bit. Please try 12 beads for 4 days and let us know the results. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
pwanzo Posted July 16, 2023 Author Share Posted July 16, 2023 Ok I will give it a whirl starting today. Thanks for all you do on this site. April 2021 lexapro 15mg April 2023 pristiq 25 mg I stopped taking lexapro because I began having panic attacks while on it still. so my dr switched me to Zoloft. Was on that for a few weeks along with buspar 15mg 3 x a day and ended up at the hospital for 8 days from sever panic and horrible migraines. They put me back on lexapro and i was still struggling. My provider wanted to switch the class entirely due to the situation I was in. So she moved me to pristiq and took me off the buspar because of severe brain fog. After coming off buspar I began to feel good again and was just soo sick and tired of all of the different meds being thrown at me I just wanted off of everything because I didn’t know what was causing what. End of May beginning of june 2023 took pristiq 25 mg every other day for a week then stopped. Med free since June 5th. Off pristiq 5 weeks was having horrible depression nausea, and brain zaps. Reinstated Effexor XR 7/7/23 10 beads out of 37.5 capsule Link to comment
pwanzo Posted July 16, 2023 Author Share Posted July 16, 2023 7/16/2023 5:00am-wake up let dogs out. Slept most the night. Went back to bed 7:30am-still in bed weird sensations in legs. Headache 9:00am-church 11:00am-feeling weird, burning in legs 11:42am-burning sensation in left ankle 2:00pm-feeling like I’m high on marijuana 4:30pm-Effexor 12 beads 6:41pm-burning in legs. Tired. Going to bed early, 8:00pm-bed time April 2021 lexapro 15mg April 2023 pristiq 25 mg I stopped taking lexapro because I began having panic attacks while on it still. so my dr switched me to Zoloft. Was on that for a few weeks along with buspar 15mg 3 x a day and ended up at the hospital for 8 days from sever panic and horrible migraines. They put me back on lexapro and i was still struggling. My provider wanted to switch the class entirely due to the situation I was in. So she moved me to pristiq and took me off the buspar because of severe brain fog. After coming off buspar I began to feel good again and was just soo sick and tired of all of the different meds being thrown at me I just wanted off of everything because I didn’t know what was causing what. End of May beginning of june 2023 took pristiq 25 mg every other day for a week then stopped. Med free since June 5th. Off pristiq 5 weeks was having horrible depression nausea, and brain zaps. Reinstated Effexor XR 7/7/23 10 beads out of 37.5 capsule Link to comment
pwanzo Posted July 17, 2023 Author Share Posted July 17, 2023 So I moved up to 12 beads yesterday. Today I felt ok all day. Probably the best I have felt in a few weeks. Took my 12 beads at 4:30 this afternoon and shortly after my anxiety sky rocketed. Could 2 beads be the culprit? Or am I just stabilizing still? Wondering if I should continue the 12 beads or go back to 10 tomorrow? April 2021 lexapro 15mg April 2023 pristiq 25 mg I stopped taking lexapro because I began having panic attacks while on it still. so my dr switched me to Zoloft. Was on that for a few weeks along with buspar 15mg 3 x a day and ended up at the hospital for 8 days from sever panic and horrible migraines. They put me back on lexapro and i was still struggling. My provider wanted to switch the class entirely due to the situation I was in. So she moved me to pristiq and took me off the buspar because of severe brain fog. After coming off buspar I began to feel good again and was just soo sick and tired of all of the different meds being thrown at me I just wanted off of everything because I didn’t know what was causing what. End of May beginning of june 2023 took pristiq 25 mg every other day for a week then stopped. Med free since June 5th. Off pristiq 5 weeks was having horrible depression nausea, and brain zaps. Reinstated Effexor XR 7/7/23 10 beads out of 37.5 capsule Link to comment
pwanzo Posted July 18, 2023 Author Share Posted July 18, 2023 7/17/2023 7:00am-wake up-slept through the night 7:15 am- burning sensation in legs 7:34am-breakfast 9:00am-push ups and sit ups 9:30am-2 mile run/walk 10:00am-yard work 12:00am- still a little off feeling mentally, however have noticed some improvement. Mood is better, not as depressed. 3:00pm- Feeling Anxious 4:30pm-Effexor 12 beads 5:00pm-headache, ramped anxiety. Pain in legs and arms. 5:56pm-anxiety seems much higher than Iv been past couple of days 6:06pm-verge of panic attack took magnesium threonate. Burning in lower legs noted. Can 2 beads make that much of a difference? 8:30pm-bed April 2021 lexapro 15mg April 2023 pristiq 25 mg I stopped taking lexapro because I began having panic attacks while on it still. so my dr switched me to Zoloft. Was on that for a few weeks along with buspar 15mg 3 x a day and ended up at the hospital for 8 days from sever panic and horrible migraines. They put me back on lexapro and i was still struggling. My provider wanted to switch the class entirely due to the situation I was in. So she moved me to pristiq and took me off the buspar because of severe brain fog. After coming off buspar I began to feel good again and was just soo sick and tired of all of the different meds being thrown at me I just wanted off of everything because I didn’t know what was causing what. End of May beginning of june 2023 took pristiq 25 mg every other day for a week then stopped. Med free since June 5th. Off pristiq 5 weeks was having horrible depression nausea, and brain zaps. Reinstated Effexor XR 7/7/23 10 beads out of 37.5 capsule Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 @pwanzoI don't know how fast the drug works but I think it can. 2 beads are a 20% increase if my math is right. Hopefully the anxiety will settle. 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
Mentor FindRest Posted July 18, 2023 Mentor Share Posted July 18, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, pwanzo said: So I moved up to 12 beads yesterday. Today I felt ok all day. Probably the best I have felt in a few weeks. Took my 12 beads at 4:30 this afternoon and shortly after my anxiety sky rocketed. Could 2 beads be the culprit? Or am I just stabilizing still? Wondering if I should continue the 12 beads or go back to 10 tomorrow? After one makes a change in dose, I believe it is important to stick with that change for a period of time (Alto recommended staying at 12 beads 4 days then getting back to her) in order to tell if the updose is working. Otherwise, you risk destabilizing yourself even more by making rapid changes. For the record, what you are describing is similar to what I experienced after each updose. Others updosing Effexor during a reinstatement have also said the same thing. The pattern for me immediately after an updose was: 1) relief and decrease in symptoms for a day or two 2) followed by an increase in symptoms for several days, then finally 3) a reduction in the new symptoms and further reduction in some of the old symptoms. This all takes time and patience. It gets scary, I know, but time is your friend. I think it is a positive sign that you had relief the first day. Edited July 18, 2023 by FindRest 1 1988-1996 Various AD’s, all classifications. 1996-2019 Effexor XR 37.5mg to 150mg. Jan 2017 onward, 37.5 mg. 2019 Apr 11 - July 24: Trials of Latuda then Rexulti. CT'd off per dr. Jul 24: CT Effexor (per dr) Sep 9-19: Viibryd, CT (per dr). Sep 23-27: Trintellix. CT (per dr). Sep 28 - Oct 24: Prozac 10mg. Oct 24: Stop Prozac, began Pristiq 25mg->50->25mg. 2020 Feb 1: CT Pristiq. Feb 1: Reinstated Effexor XR (10 large beads) gradually increasing to 22 beads (15L+7M) or 9.072mgai on Mar, 2020. 2021 Started Jan w 21 beads (13L+8M) or 8.47mgai ended Dec: 17 beads (7L+9M+1S) or 6.19mgai. Severe COVID + TIA. 2022 Ended yr w 14 beads (3L+5M+5S+1XS) or 4.5mgai. Major jaw injury during year + family tragedy. 2023 Jan: 13 beads (2L+5M+5S+1XS) or 4.2mgai; Feb: 12 beads (2L+4M+5S+1XS) or 3.9mgai; Mar: 11 beads (2L+4M+4S+1XS) or 3.6mgai, Apr: 10 beads (2L+3M+4S+1XS) or 3.3mgai; Jun: 9 beads (2L+3M+3S+1XS) or 3mgai, Current: July, 2023: Effexor XR - 9 beads (2L+3M+3S+1XS) or 2.7 mgai Other current meds: Ambien 10mg 3.935mg , clonazepam .125mg .107mg, omeprazole, Synthroid, Premarin. Supplements: D3, C, probiotic, K2-MK7, Mg Glycinate Link to comment
pwanzo Posted July 18, 2023 Author Share Posted July 18, 2023 So I just had an appointment with my provider. She is totally against what I am doing with reinstating the Effexor, however she is still sending in the prescriptions. She said for me to have had symptoms lasting past 2 weeks is unheard of after stopping a medication. How on earth can they honestly be so clueless? Blows my mind. I would get another provider but I fear they might not understand either. 1 April 2021 lexapro 15mg April 2023 pristiq 25 mg I stopped taking lexapro because I began having panic attacks while on it still. so my dr switched me to Zoloft. Was on that for a few weeks along with buspar 15mg 3 x a day and ended up at the hospital for 8 days from sever panic and horrible migraines. They put me back on lexapro and i was still struggling. My provider wanted to switch the class entirely due to the situation I was in. So she moved me to pristiq and took me off the buspar because of severe brain fog. After coming off buspar I began to feel good again and was just soo sick and tired of all of the different meds being thrown at me I just wanted off of everything because I didn’t know what was causing what. End of May beginning of june 2023 took pristiq 25 mg every other day for a week then stopped. Med free since June 5th. Off pristiq 5 weeks was having horrible depression nausea, and brain zaps. Reinstated Effexor XR 7/7/23 10 beads out of 37.5 capsule Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 @pwanzo as long as she gives you the prescription it's good. That is why I mentioned don't throw away the beads. It's good to have a stockpile in case there is any issues in getting a refill. They remain arrogant and ignorant. Otherwise they would have to admit their role in all this and they wouldn't be able to financially benefit from big pharma. How can there be honesty when the doctors get kickbacks? Thankfully we have each other. You got this. 1 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
pwanzo Posted July 18, 2023 Author Share Posted July 18, 2023 I have been saving all of my beads. It’s just frustrating and depressing that my provider is against what I am doing and doesn’t understand what’s happening. The person Im supposed to turn to for advice and reassurance is recommending the opposite of what is best for me. She put me in this position and makes me feel like I’m the bad one for going against her medical advice. 2 April 2021 lexapro 15mg April 2023 pristiq 25 mg I stopped taking lexapro because I began having panic attacks while on it still. so my dr switched me to Zoloft. Was on that for a few weeks along with buspar 15mg 3 x a day and ended up at the hospital for 8 days from sever panic and horrible migraines. They put me back on lexapro and i was still struggling. My provider wanted to switch the class entirely due to the situation I was in. So she moved me to pristiq and took me off the buspar because of severe brain fog. After coming off buspar I began to feel good again and was just soo sick and tired of all of the different meds being thrown at me I just wanted off of everything because I didn’t know what was causing what. End of May beginning of june 2023 took pristiq 25 mg every other day for a week then stopped. Med free since June 5th. Off pristiq 5 weeks was having horrible depression nausea, and brain zaps. Reinstated Effexor XR 7/7/23 10 beads out of 37.5 capsule Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 @pwanzo it’s frustrating hence my rant lol. But it is important for us to turn our energy to healing. They aren’t worth it. Did you know there is a section on here about talking to your provider? Under Tapering, the 5th subheading. 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
pwanzo Posted July 18, 2023 Author Share Posted July 18, 2023 Currently Super low mood with crying spells again. I’m at rock bottom. This is the hardest thing Iv ever been through. I’m doing everything I can to try and snap out of it but it just feels like I’m stuck in hole. April 2021 lexapro 15mg April 2023 pristiq 25 mg I stopped taking lexapro because I began having panic attacks while on it still. so my dr switched me to Zoloft. Was on that for a few weeks along with buspar 15mg 3 x a day and ended up at the hospital for 8 days from sever panic and horrible migraines. They put me back on lexapro and i was still struggling. My provider wanted to switch the class entirely due to the situation I was in. So she moved me to pristiq and took me off the buspar because of severe brain fog. After coming off buspar I began to feel good again and was just soo sick and tired of all of the different meds being thrown at me I just wanted off of everything because I didn’t know what was causing what. End of May beginning of june 2023 took pristiq 25 mg every other day for a week then stopped. Med free since June 5th. Off pristiq 5 weeks was having horrible depression nausea, and brain zaps. Reinstated Effexor XR 7/7/23 10 beads out of 37.5 capsule Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Your body is healing even when you don't think it is. It keeps recalibrating all the systems that are affected. I feel for you. 1 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
pwanzo Posted July 18, 2023 Author Share Posted July 18, 2023 7/18/2023 7:00am-wake up. Slept through the night 7:30am-breakfast 8:00am-burning sensations in legs weird pain in arms. Burning seems to have increased past few days 9:00am- meeting with provider. She’s clueless 10:30am-extreme anxiety. Pacing around the house. Push ups and sit ups 11:00am- 2 miles walk/run 1:00pm-outside by the pool. Mood way down. Again feeling very off mentally. 4:30pm-12 beads Effexor. Mood really low. Fear I’ll never get out of this stage. 4:58pm-super low mood. Crying spells. 6:00pm-dinner 7:00pm-headache 8:00pm-bed time April 2021 lexapro 15mg April 2023 pristiq 25 mg I stopped taking lexapro because I began having panic attacks while on it still. so my dr switched me to Zoloft. Was on that for a few weeks along with buspar 15mg 3 x a day and ended up at the hospital for 8 days from sever panic and horrible migraines. They put me back on lexapro and i was still struggling. My provider wanted to switch the class entirely due to the situation I was in. So she moved me to pristiq and took me off the buspar because of severe brain fog. After coming off buspar I began to feel good again and was just soo sick and tired of all of the different meds being thrown at me I just wanted off of everything because I didn’t know what was causing what. End of May beginning of june 2023 took pristiq 25 mg every other day for a week then stopped. Med free since June 5th. Off pristiq 5 weeks was having horrible depression nausea, and brain zaps. Reinstated Effexor XR 7/7/23 10 beads out of 37.5 capsule Link to comment
Mentor FindRest Posted July 19, 2023 Mentor Share Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) In this state, you might want to be careful to not exercise too much. It can make symptoms worse, revving up your cns and anxiety. However, the fact that you are able to do as much as you are is a good sign. Many here are not able to do much at all. Regardless, we must be very careful not to do more than our cns can handle. It’s a balancing act. Your fear about things never getting better is a natural one, but it’s important to not let yourself go down that rabbit hole. Time and patience will prove your fears false. You may want to look through the various topics in the Symptoms forum and read through the comments as well. I think you will find some topics that you can relate to along with tips on how to get through this stage. https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/forum/8-symptoms-and-self-care/ Edited July 19, 2023 by FindRest 1 1988-1996 Various AD’s, all classifications. 1996-2019 Effexor XR 37.5mg to 150mg. Jan 2017 onward, 37.5 mg. 2019 Apr 11 - July 24: Trials of Latuda then Rexulti. CT'd off per dr. Jul 24: CT Effexor (per dr) Sep 9-19: Viibryd, CT (per dr). Sep 23-27: Trintellix. CT (per dr). Sep 28 - Oct 24: Prozac 10mg. Oct 24: Stop Prozac, began Pristiq 25mg->50->25mg. 2020 Feb 1: CT Pristiq. Feb 1: Reinstated Effexor XR (10 large beads) gradually increasing to 22 beads (15L+7M) or 9.072mgai on Mar, 2020. 2021 Started Jan w 21 beads (13L+8M) or 8.47mgai ended Dec: 17 beads (7L+9M+1S) or 6.19mgai. Severe COVID + TIA. 2022 Ended yr w 14 beads (3L+5M+5S+1XS) or 4.5mgai. Major jaw injury during year + family tragedy. 2023 Jan: 13 beads (2L+5M+5S+1XS) or 4.2mgai; Feb: 12 beads (2L+4M+5S+1XS) or 3.9mgai; Mar: 11 beads (2L+4M+4S+1XS) or 3.6mgai, Apr: 10 beads (2L+3M+4S+1XS) or 3.3mgai; Jun: 9 beads (2L+3M+3S+1XS) or 3mgai, Current: July, 2023: Effexor XR - 9 beads (2L+3M+3S+1XS) or 2.7 mgai Other current meds: Ambien 10mg 3.935mg , clonazepam .125mg .107mg, omeprazole, Synthroid, Premarin. Supplements: D3, C, probiotic, K2-MK7, Mg Glycinate Link to comment
pwanzo Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 Understandable. So for me my symptoms that are the worst are the neuro emotions. Waves of depression and some spikes in anxiety. I am able to function otherwise. I read that exercise was supposed to be good for depression and healing. If you think it’s a bad idea I can always lessen the load. April 2021 lexapro 15mg April 2023 pristiq 25 mg I stopped taking lexapro because I began having panic attacks while on it still. so my dr switched me to Zoloft. Was on that for a few weeks along with buspar 15mg 3 x a day and ended up at the hospital for 8 days from sever panic and horrible migraines. They put me back on lexapro and i was still struggling. My provider wanted to switch the class entirely due to the situation I was in. So she moved me to pristiq and took me off the buspar because of severe brain fog. After coming off buspar I began to feel good again and was just soo sick and tired of all of the different meds being thrown at me I just wanted off of everything because I didn’t know what was causing what. End of May beginning of june 2023 took pristiq 25 mg every other day for a week then stopped. Med free since June 5th. Off pristiq 5 weeks was having horrible depression nausea, and brain zaps. Reinstated Effexor XR 7/7/23 10 beads out of 37.5 capsule Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 @pwanzosome are able to get away with weights etc. Most of us find gentle walks in nature are better. You can always dial your routine back a bit and see. I can't sleep and am activated if I do to much during the day 1 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
pwanzo Posted July 20, 2023 Author Share Posted July 20, 2023 7/19/2023 7:00am- wake up. Slept most the night 8:30am-spiked anxiety, heavy tension in neck, and head in temple area, jaw area 9:00am-cbt therapy. Burning sensation in right lower leg 10:00am- feeling sad. Hopeless, anxiety, random fear. 11:00am- 2 mile walk outdoors. Panicky brain. Ruminating thoughts. Feeling of fear and worry. 1:00pm-headache 2:30pm- feeling off once again. Derealization. Headaches. 3:00pm-feeling very spacey. 8:00pm- bed April 2021 lexapro 15mg April 2023 pristiq 25 mg I stopped taking lexapro because I began having panic attacks while on it still. so my dr switched me to Zoloft. Was on that for a few weeks along with buspar 15mg 3 x a day and ended up at the hospital for 8 days from sever panic and horrible migraines. They put me back on lexapro and i was still struggling. My provider wanted to switch the class entirely due to the situation I was in. So she moved me to pristiq and took me off the buspar because of severe brain fog. After coming off buspar I began to feel good again and was just soo sick and tired of all of the different meds being thrown at me I just wanted off of everything because I didn’t know what was causing what. End of May beginning of june 2023 took pristiq 25 mg every other day for a week then stopped. Med free since June 5th. Off pristiq 5 weeks was having horrible depression nausea, and brain zaps. Reinstated Effexor XR 7/7/23 10 beads out of 37.5 capsule Link to comment
pwanzo Posted July 20, 2023 Author Share Posted July 20, 2023 I feel like I’m getting worse. Any suggestions on where to go from here? April 2021 lexapro 15mg April 2023 pristiq 25 mg I stopped taking lexapro because I began having panic attacks while on it still. so my dr switched me to Zoloft. Was on that for a few weeks along with buspar 15mg 3 x a day and ended up at the hospital for 8 days from sever panic and horrible migraines. They put me back on lexapro and i was still struggling. My provider wanted to switch the class entirely due to the situation I was in. So she moved me to pristiq and took me off the buspar because of severe brain fog. After coming off buspar I began to feel good again and was just soo sick and tired of all of the different meds being thrown at me I just wanted off of everything because I didn’t know what was causing what. End of May beginning of june 2023 took pristiq 25 mg every other day for a week then stopped. Med free since June 5th. Off pristiq 5 weeks was having horrible depression nausea, and brain zaps. Reinstated Effexor XR 7/7/23 10 beads out of 37.5 capsule Link to comment
pwanzo Posted July 20, 2023 Author Share Posted July 20, 2023 Also forgot to put Effexor 12 beads 4:30 pm on my 24 hour tracking for 7/19/2023 April 2021 lexapro 15mg April 2023 pristiq 25 mg I stopped taking lexapro because I began having panic attacks while on it still. so my dr switched me to Zoloft. Was on that for a few weeks along with buspar 15mg 3 x a day and ended up at the hospital for 8 days from sever panic and horrible migraines. They put me back on lexapro and i was still struggling. My provider wanted to switch the class entirely due to the situation I was in. So she moved me to pristiq and took me off the buspar because of severe brain fog. After coming off buspar I began to feel good again and was just soo sick and tired of all of the different meds being thrown at me I just wanted off of everything because I didn’t know what was causing what. End of May beginning of june 2023 took pristiq 25 mg every other day for a week then stopped. Med free since June 5th. Off pristiq 5 weeks was having horrible depression nausea, and brain zaps. Reinstated Effexor XR 7/7/23 10 beads out of 37.5 capsule Link to comment
pwanzo Posted July 20, 2023 Author Share Posted July 20, 2023 Actually as of now I feel a little bit better than I did yesterday April 2021 lexapro 15mg April 2023 pristiq 25 mg I stopped taking lexapro because I began having panic attacks while on it still. so my dr switched me to Zoloft. Was on that for a few weeks along with buspar 15mg 3 x a day and ended up at the hospital for 8 days from sever panic and horrible migraines. They put me back on lexapro and i was still struggling. My provider wanted to switch the class entirely due to the situation I was in. So she moved me to pristiq and took me off the buspar because of severe brain fog. After coming off buspar I began to feel good again and was just soo sick and tired of all of the different meds being thrown at me I just wanted off of everything because I didn’t know what was causing what. End of May beginning of june 2023 took pristiq 25 mg every other day for a week then stopped. Med free since June 5th. Off pristiq 5 weeks was having horrible depression nausea, and brain zaps. Reinstated Effexor XR 7/7/23 10 beads out of 37.5 capsule Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 @pwanzo it is such a rollercoaster ride. I try not to have any expectations and it makes it easier to accept my limitations. Emphasis on try. 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
pwanzo Posted July 20, 2023 Author Share Posted July 20, 2023 Yeah. I stated having new symptoms. I have a nerve in my calf I can literally feel fluttering. I’m unsure if it’s from the Effexor or from “withdrawal”. I did the 4 days of 12 beads so now I’m wondering what my next steps are. April 2021 lexapro 15mg April 2023 pristiq 25 mg I stopped taking lexapro because I began having panic attacks while on it still. so my dr switched me to Zoloft. Was on that for a few weeks along with buspar 15mg 3 x a day and ended up at the hospital for 8 days from sever panic and horrible migraines. They put me back on lexapro and i was still struggling. My provider wanted to switch the class entirely due to the situation I was in. So she moved me to pristiq and took me off the buspar because of severe brain fog. After coming off buspar I began to feel good again and was just soo sick and tired of all of the different meds being thrown at me I just wanted off of everything because I didn’t know what was causing what. End of May beginning of june 2023 took pristiq 25 mg every other day for a week then stopped. Med free since June 5th. Off pristiq 5 weeks was having horrible depression nausea, and brain zaps. Reinstated Effexor XR 7/7/23 10 beads out of 37.5 capsule Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 @pwanzo my experience is just staying at a consistent dose is so important. If things aren't worse I think they will get better. It took me a solid 6 months to even feel close to normal. I still have morphing symptoms and burning mostly in feet but sometimes legs and arms. No quick fixes for cold turkey... lucky us. 1 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
pwanzo Posted July 20, 2023 Author Share Posted July 20, 2023 Ok so just stick to 12 beads for the foreseeable future? April 2021 lexapro 15mg April 2023 pristiq 25 mg I stopped taking lexapro because I began having panic attacks while on it still. so my dr switched me to Zoloft. Was on that for a few weeks along with buspar 15mg 3 x a day and ended up at the hospital for 8 days from sever panic and horrible migraines. They put me back on lexapro and i was still struggling. My provider wanted to switch the class entirely due to the situation I was in. So she moved me to pristiq and took me off the buspar because of severe brain fog. After coming off buspar I began to feel good again and was just soo sick and tired of all of the different meds being thrown at me I just wanted off of everything because I didn’t know what was causing what. End of May beginning of june 2023 took pristiq 25 mg every other day for a week then stopped. Med free since June 5th. Off pristiq 5 weeks was having horrible depression nausea, and brain zaps. Reinstated Effexor XR 7/7/23 10 beads out of 37.5 capsule Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 @pwanzo I would...you can always go up after a month or so if you don't see improvement but I would give it 1-3 months to be honest. It is harder to go down so increasing a dose should never be taken lightly. 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
pwanzo Posted July 20, 2023 Author Share Posted July 20, 2023 Something’s have gotten worse. Stiffness in my neck, derealization, Burning in my leg and anxiety have gotten worse. The only thing that really improved is was the zaps and nausea. That’s why I’m not sure if the Effexor reinstatement is working or was the right move. April 2021 lexapro 15mg April 2023 pristiq 25 mg I stopped taking lexapro because I began having panic attacks while on it still. so my dr switched me to Zoloft. Was on that for a few weeks along with buspar 15mg 3 x a day and ended up at the hospital for 8 days from sever panic and horrible migraines. They put me back on lexapro and i was still struggling. My provider wanted to switch the class entirely due to the situation I was in. So she moved me to pristiq and took me off the buspar because of severe brain fog. After coming off buspar I began to feel good again and was just soo sick and tired of all of the different meds being thrown at me I just wanted off of everything because I didn’t know what was causing what. End of May beginning of june 2023 took pristiq 25 mg every other day for a week then stopped. Med free since June 5th. Off pristiq 5 weeks was having horrible depression nausea, and brain zaps. Reinstated Effexor XR 7/7/23 10 beads out of 37.5 capsule Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 have you thoroughly went over this link https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/272-tips-for-tapering-off-effexor-and-effexor-xr-venlafaxine/ The size of the beads also matter to ensure a consistent dose. For me the full thrust of withdrawal didn't even hit till 3 months off so you many just be dealing with the original withdrawal and effexor might be working and trying to catch up with the damage. Only you can decide but by reading others experiences coming off pristiq and doing a crossover from cold turkey will help 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
pwanzo Posted July 20, 2023 Author Share Posted July 20, 2023 I have been on this site almost everyday looking at other peoples stories. You could be onto something with the withdrawal and Effexor trying to catch up. I just know it has been sooo rough mentally that I don’t even know what’s what anymore. April 2021 lexapro 15mg April 2023 pristiq 25 mg I stopped taking lexapro because I began having panic attacks while on it still. so my dr switched me to Zoloft. Was on that for a few weeks along with buspar 15mg 3 x a day and ended up at the hospital for 8 days from sever panic and horrible migraines. They put me back on lexapro and i was still struggling. My provider wanted to switch the class entirely due to the situation I was in. So she moved me to pristiq and took me off the buspar because of severe brain fog. After coming off buspar I began to feel good again and was just soo sick and tired of all of the different meds being thrown at me I just wanted off of everything because I didn’t know what was causing what. End of May beginning of june 2023 took pristiq 25 mg every other day for a week then stopped. Med free since June 5th. Off pristiq 5 weeks was having horrible depression nausea, and brain zaps. Reinstated Effexor XR 7/7/23 10 beads out of 37.5 capsule Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 It is so hard not to second guess decisions made. The withdrawal and drugs undermine confidence. Every day I hate taking my poison but it's the lesser of two evils. The 3 month point of CT for me was so bad, worse than anything prior. 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
pwanzo Posted July 20, 2023 Author Share Posted July 20, 2023 So I will give it some more time on the 12 beads. If it doesn’t improve I’m hesitant to go up and am thinking maybe I should start going down when that time comes. I made an appointment with a new psychiatrist for after my vacation. I’m hoping he can be some help and will understand my current situation. April 2021 lexapro 15mg April 2023 pristiq 25 mg I stopped taking lexapro because I began having panic attacks while on it still. so my dr switched me to Zoloft. Was on that for a few weeks along with buspar 15mg 3 x a day and ended up at the hospital for 8 days from sever panic and horrible migraines. They put me back on lexapro and i was still struggling. My provider wanted to switch the class entirely due to the situation I was in. So she moved me to pristiq and took me off the buspar because of severe brain fog. After coming off buspar I began to feel good again and was just soo sick and tired of all of the different meds being thrown at me I just wanted off of everything because I didn’t know what was causing what. End of May beginning of june 2023 took pristiq 25 mg every other day for a week then stopped. Med free since June 5th. Off pristiq 5 weeks was having horrible depression nausea, and brain zaps. Reinstated Effexor XR 7/7/23 10 beads out of 37.5 capsule Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 @pwanzo even loaded with so much documentation my psychiatrist was too proud to admit protracted withdrawal but in the end at least said serotonin withdrawal. And even after that she told me to taper the reinstatement of 5 mg over 6 months. Thankfully after that when my GP got the notes he realized I really was in WD. He then said psychiatry was a sh*t show. 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Check this recent expose which has this website mentioned in it https://rumble.com/v2wlt7g-the-antidepressant-story-bbc-panorama-documentary.html 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
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