ikam: tapering escitalopram

[ikam]

Especially the diet, as what I eat is pro-inflamatory and pro-histamine...

 

I already bought 10 kg magnesium, waiting for it to be send...

[Junglechicken]

Ikam, its positive that you're taking steps to investigate whats going on by visiting a homeopath - this is something I also need to do.

 

I hope that with the diet changes and supplements you will start to see some changes.

[ikam]

It makes a lot of sense what she said...

 

Although I had to educate her on what I can and cannot take...but she always listens...

 

I know her from my past, she helped me with Effexor...then she moved out, so we had Skype session today...

[Frogie]

It makes a lot of sense what she said...

 

Although I had to educate her on what I can and cannot take...but she always listens...

 

I know her from my past, she helped me with Effexor...then she moved out, so we had Skype session today...

That's awesome

 

On the road to recovery!

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[ikam]

"Anti-inflammatory/painkilling drugs can increase histamine release in allergy sufferers"- this is most likely what happened, as I have been using Diclofenac cream for my pain last 4 days, and I have had more and more allergy type symptoms...

[Frogie]

"Anti-inflammatory/painkilling drugs can increase histamine release in allergy sufferers"- this is most likely what happened, as I have been using Diclofenac cream for my pain last 4 days, and I have had more and more allergy type symptoms...

At least you found out what it might be and you can handle it homeopathic.

 

That's great.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[ikam]

Yeah, I was really surprised about this histamine response...

[ikam]

I have to go to work tomorrow, but I am so worried about the consequences of my last week sick leave...

I am very tired and still in some pain...

But I must be at work tomorrow...

[Frogie]

I'll wish you good luck!

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[ikam]

I think I messed up my body with Diclofenac; I was using "just" cream, but it affected me badly...

[ikam]

exhausted...but at least I know it is not only wd but also anaemia...

 

just found an article on anaemia and pain:

http://www.wellnessresources.com/health/articles/low_iron_can_cause_chronic_pain/

[ikam]

i think i have a delayed response to a little accident i had today morning- somebody drove into my back, there was big bang...i did not know what it was at first...then realised...nothing happened to my car, neither the other car...

i had to go to work afterwards...

i feel anxious now...have headache and i am in more pain...kind of panicky feeling...

[Frogie]

i think i have a delayed response to a little accident i had today morning- somebody drove into my back, there was big bang...i did not know what it was at first...then realised...nothing happened to my car, neither the other car...

i had to go to work afterwards...

i feel anxious now...have headache and i am in more pain...kind of panicky feeling...

I am soooo sorry to hear that.

 

I hope you heal fast, just take a deep breath, and you are ok.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[ikam]

had really bad night, severe diarohea, as a result of trying some iron with b12 product prescribed by gp...

 

i had to take imodium, as it was just impossible since 3am to the morning...

 

I don't know what to do anymore...

 

have lots of pain again...this time in my groin and foot...also walking is hard as my feet are painful...

 

sometimes I just want to lie down and never get up...

[ikam]

i dont understand my physical pain, the pain should be a signal that something requires attention...does it? do i respond to the pain or leave it? what if i am ill? the pain moves around my body, used to be sciatica like pain, now moved to the groin...my feet are just so painful sometimes, each step brings more and more misery rather than relief...when i walk my sciatica is a bit worse, when i sit or drive, the groin one kicks in...

I used to have sharp pain in my knee, then in my rectum after Effexor...

I also had other pains- due to using meds, I know this now...

the way how this manifests has changed, it is throbbing rather than stabbing. Although my foot is always stabbing...

 

my gp wants to see me again, but there is no help from them apart from insisting on investigations they think is right...or, maybe they are right, maybe I have a cancer...

 

but the pain goes away when I am calm, warm in bed...if I was ill I would possibly have it more continuous???

[Flowers]

Hello Ikam

 

Since WD hit a couple of years ago I have suffered various pains for which there could be no explanation. Sometimes I have had them investigated by my Dr to rule out anything underlying but nothing has ever showed up. Sometimes the pain has been so severe like burning nerve pain. My last bout was a pain in my groin which made my leg actually give out. This went away of it's own accord in a few weeks. 

 

It's hard to tell which is WD related. I do think that any pain feels worse when going through WD though.  I also have been to a chiropractor to check out that my posture was OK and that my body didn't need any manipulation of any kind. Lots of pains seem to come from the spine especially if it is tense.

 

If the pain is going away when you are relaxed maybe it is a postural thing. 

[ikam]

Hello Ikam

 

Since WD hit a couple of years ago I have suffered various pains for which there could be no explanation. Sometimes I have had them investigated by my Dr to rule out anything underlying but nothing has ever showed up. Sometimes the pain has been so severe like burning nerve pain. My last bout was a pain in my groin which made my leg actually give out. This went away of it's own accord in a few weeks. 

 

It's hard to tell which is WD related. I do think that any pain feels worse when going through WD though.  I also have been to a chiropractor to check out that my posture was OK and that my body didn't need any manipulation of any kind. Lots of pains seem to come from the spine especially if it is tense.

 

If the pain is going away when you are relaxed maybe it is a postural thing. 

 

Thank you. As it has been for so long I have times when I just want to give up...

 

It makes sense, that it is to do with body posture, as it is triggered by sitting, driving or walking...

 

I had some investigations in past including mri scans, nothing was there...

 

I just need to become more patient, less involved with this pain...cannot find any solution...

[Frogie]

 

Hello Ikam

 

Since WD hit a couple of years ago I have suffered various pains for which there could be no explanation. Sometimes I have had them investigated by my Dr to rule out anything underlying but nothing has ever showed up. Sometimes the pain has been so severe like burning nerve pain. My last bout was a pain in my groin which made my leg actually give out. This went away of it's own accord in a few weeks. 

 

It's hard to tell which is WD related. I do think that any pain feels worse when going through WD though.  I also have been to a chiropractor to check out that my posture was OK and that my body didn't need any manipulation of any kind. Lots of pains seem to come from the spine especially if it is tense.

 

If the pain is going away when you are relaxed maybe it is a postural thing.

 

 

Thank you. As it has been for so long I have times when I just want to give up...

 

It makes sense, that it is to do with body posture, as it is triggered by sitting, driving or walking...

 

I had some investigations in past including mri scans, nothing was there...

 

I just need to become more patient, less involved with this pain...cannot find any solution...

Ikam:

 

I saw that you were having a lot of pain and thought it might be cancer.

 

I'm not a dr or an expert, but I would think you would have the pain all the time if something was serious. The dr would be right on top of it if they felt it was serious.

 

I often think I must have stomach cancer because I'm nauseous all the time. But then I take an anti nausea med or drink some tea, and it subsidies, and the dr has reassured me that I don't have cancer. It would show up in blood work and my ct scan I had. I've had my stomach pushed and prodded on so much, they would have found something.

 

Just take a deep breath and know, it's a WD here to bug you, and don't let it get the best of you.

 

We are all here for support, let me know. I'm here if you need more.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Flowers]

 

Hello Ikam

 

Since WD hit a couple of years ago I have suffered various pains for which there could be no explanation. Sometimes I have had them investigated by my Dr to rule out anything underlying but nothing has ever showed up. Sometimes the pain has been so severe like burning nerve pain. My last bout was a pain in my groin which made my leg actually give out. This went away of it's own accord in a few weeks. 

 

It's hard to tell which is WD related. I do think that any pain feels worse when going through WD though.  I also have been to a chiropractor to check out that my posture was OK and that my body didn't need any manipulation of any kind. Lots of pains seem to come from the spine especially if it is tense.

 

If the pain is going away when you are relaxed maybe it is a postural thing. 

 

Thank you. As it has been for so long I have times when I just want to give up...

 

It makes sense, that it is to do with body posture, as it is triggered by sitting, driving or walking...

 

I had some investigations in past including mri scans, nothing was there...

 

I just need to become more patient, less involved with this pain...cannot find any solution...

 

I know it is so debilitating going through all this. Anxiety is the worst as it interferes with the body as well as mind. Pain can come from a very tense spine and muscles. Is there something you could find that might help you?  Maybe go to someone who could do some manipulation - chiropractor/osteopath or maybe do some progressive muscle relaxing exercises yourself. I do these in bed and they make me feel lovely and relaxed and like I have had a warm bath. 

Hope this helps Ikam.

[ikam]

Yeah, I am very anxious...

 

I also thought that the diarrhoea I had just increased wd symptoms...

[ikam]

I wonder if I responded badly to Green Lipped Mussel (used for arthritic pain), as it may cause allergic reaction, including diarohea...it was really severe...flushed everything out of me, hence triggered yet another Wave of symptoms (more pain, feeling unsettled, anxious)...

[Flowers]

Could have been that and it won't help if you are anaemic.

 

Hope things settle down soon.

 

xxxxx

[Frogie]

Hi Ikam:

 

Sounds like that didn't agree with you.

 

Hope you feel better soon.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[ikam]

Interesting article http://www.paincommunitycentre.org/article/neuropathic-pain

 

Unfortunately I am still in pain

[Frogie]

I'll have to read it.

 

Was hoping you were feeling better.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[ikam]

going for my gp appointment as they called me, worried, had a throbbing pain almost all day yesterday + strange "murmur" close to my heart...

(am I dying?

- yes, I want to die...tired of my symptoms never going away; unsure what is a real health signal, what is wd, ad, or all of it???)

[AliG]

Ikam. There are many heart irregularities that can be withdrawal symptoms. If you are worried perhaps it would pay you to get it checked out anyway.

[Junglechicken]

Yes, very common in WD to get heart irregularities. They are one of the listed side effects.

 

I had some heart "weirdness" yesterday and felt tired all day. Back to WDnormal today.

 

Ikam, I think you are doing what many of us do here which is to "catastrophise" our symptoms. To say I do this all the time is an understatement. It's part of why we are mentally and hence physically vulnerable.

 

If it's an out-of-the-blue symptom then it's more than likely to be WD. Still, as Ali says, have the doc confirm that you are fine for peace of mind.

 

Hugs,

JC xx

[ikam]

After Appointment- he said most of my symptoms may be well related to bowel cancer, he is going to write a letter to a consultatnt to find a different way for me to do an urgent colonoscopy...

 

I am lost as what is what and what to do............

 

He listened to my heart- no problem...

I am very anxious...

[AliG]

That means more drugs . Sometimes you can do it drug - free like Alto did.

 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4935-colonoscopy/

[ikam]

they insist i have it done...i will ask to have it done with no anasthetic and sedation...

what I am concerned about is the medication i have to take to prepare my bowels...

 

i refused to have it done couple of months ago, but because of my anemia they insist...

 

it is not a nice thought for christmas that i may have a cancer...i regret that i refused to have it done earlier...

[ikam]

Email from my homeopath:

 

Your doctor has no sensitivity at all to tell you this, and just before Xmas.

 

Your symptoms could be many things, including simply withdrawal from drugs and years of drug addiction.  Doctors aren’t so good with recognising the horrendous side-effects of the drugs they prescribe and the terrible withdrawal symptoms.

 

One step at a time.

 

Can you suggest Epsom Salts?  These clear the bowels, instead of the chemical cocktails with aspartame they offer these days.  Do make sure it doesn’t contain aspartame as I suspect you will react very badly to this.  I did.  I have decided that unless they can give me a preparation without aspartame I won’t be doing another colonoscopy in 10 years’ time.  What has medicine come to.  They poison us while doing a health procedure!!

 

The worst thing you can do is worry and stress.  If possible I would do the colonoscopy.  They need to come up with a laxative that is non-toxic, however

 

I believe your doctor was scaring you into doing a colonoscopy to cover his back, and unnecessarily.

 

Keep calm unless you absolutely have a reason not to, and at the moment you don’t.

[Frogie]

going for my gp appointment as they called me, worried, had a throbbing pain almost all day yesterday + strange "murmur" close to my heart...

(am I dying?

- yes, I want to die...tired of my symptoms never going away; unsure what is a real health signal, what is wd, ad, or all of it???)

Like AliG said it could just be part of a WD symptom.

I'll be thinking of you.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

[Flowers]

Hi Ikam

 

So sorry you have to deal with this at Christmas.  

 

xxxxx Flowers

[AliG]

Ikam. I would do all the research first if I were you.  Just because they advise it doesn't mean you have to have it.  I got a script for Statin drugs a few years ago - ripped up & into the bin . Same with a Colonoscopy script. There are certain dangers associated with this procedure. Look it up.

 

It is always up to you. You have to be your own health advocate. Don't just blindly follow the " normal " medical model. It's not really doing so well . Please do your research first before consenting to this. 

[ikam]

Ikam. I would do all the research first if I were you.  Just because they advise it doesn't mean you have to have it.  I got a script for Statin drugs a few years ago - ripped up & into the bin . Same with a Colonoscopy script. There are certain dangers associated with this procedure. Look it up.

 

It is always up to you. You have to be your own health advocate. Don't just blindly follow the " normal " medical model. It's not really doing so well . Please do your research first before consenting to this. 

 

This is what I did when I received this first. They insist as they cannot explain my low iron and ongoing pain...

 

I will do it this time...but with a different preparation method and no sedation (!)