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Altostrata

Since you increased a little less than a month ago, you could lower it to 4.5mg and see if that helps.

 

Or, if you prefer to continue 5mg with the side effects, you can do that, too. There's no remedy for side effects other than lowering dosage.


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manymoretodays

Oh Hell!  B)

 

Have you tried positional changes when you sleep.  I mean like staying fairly propped up in a relaxing chair or with pillows in your bed.  To see if that benefits your breathing?  And the breathing issues started with the mirtazapine WD?

 

You haven't been on the 5 mg dose of Zyprexa for even a whole month yet.  That's why I suggested that.  Plus the anehedonia and apathy might let up even a little bit, with a lower dose.

Lower dose also equates to less toxic effects.  I've got such strong negative feelings about Zyprexa too.  I may be being a bit biased.  I was basing a greater than usual reduction, on that you've been on it just barely a month, and that might make it smoother. 

 

Okay.  Well.  Ultimately, up to you, and if you really feel the benefit(for sleep) is better at 5 mg........well, okay.  I might have misread your updates and answers.  I thought sleep was still a mighty issue.  Or lack of it.

 

Best,  L, P, H, and G,

mmt

 

 

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Started with psycho meds circa 1988 I think 27 or 28 total.

AD's, antpsychotics, antiseizure mood stabilizers. Lithium, lamictal ,benzos, and stimulants. Some med. for narcolepsy once(Provigil,) Gabapentin........probably more.  Ask me?......I probably was on it.  Haphazard W/D's by Dr. recommend or uneducated self.

10/2014- off Lexapro--had been on highest dose 10 mg. then 5 mg. for a couple of years, went from 5 mg. to 3 mg. liquid and then CT in hospital(voluntary).  I got out of the hospital on a combination of low dose adderal salts x1/day and trileptal 150mg. x2/day.

5/28/2015-off Adderal salts 2.5mg. (I had been on that since hospital 10/2014)

12/2015---just holding, holding, holding, with trileptal/oxcarb at 75 mg. 1/2 tab at hs.  My last psycho med ever!

 

3/21/2016---I did some unwise updosing of trileptal/oxcarbazepine with some stressful stuff......doubled the above dose x2 during this last wave but began liquifying again and on approximately 68mg. starting today.  11/12//2016 24 mg. oxcarbazepine  12/9/2016 off oxcarbazepine/trileptal!!!! :) optimistic  2016 December 9- completely off all medications!!!!!

Omega3's,EPA +DHA= 1800 mg/day. Magnesium complex, orally, diluted in a liter of H2O(that I can shake up.....it usually dissolves more completely as the water gets down to room temperature) and/or Epsom salt baths prn.   Vit. C, D3, and E.  B12, melatonin tapered to 1mg., and bioidentical hormones sublingually.  Trace mineral drops.  L-lysine.  L-methylfolate=400 mcg plus daily spinach. Totally ready for a good long window to hit soon and getting better strings of full days and partial days along the way.  Definite improvement overall since I first arrived on the SA survivor ship.  Herb and alcohol free since 5/15/2016.  None of my posts are intended as medical advice.  Please discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical provider. manymoretodays

 

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13 hours ago, Altostrata said:

Since you increased a little less than a month ago, you could lower it to 4.5mg and see if that helps.

 

Or, if you prefer to continue 5mg with the side effects, you can do that, too. There's no remedy for side effects other than lowering dosage.

What side effects? Being unable to sleep is my main issue and it started during withdrawal.

 

9 hours ago, manymoretodays said:

Oh Hell!  B)

 

Have you tried positional changes when you sleep.  I mean like staying fairly propped up in a relaxing chair or with pillows in your bed.  To see if that benefits your breathing?  And the breathing issues started with the mirtazapine WD?

 

You haven't been on the 5 mg dose of Zyprexa for even a whole month yet.  That's why I suggested that.  Plus the anehedonia and apathy might let up even a little bit, with a lower dose.

Lower dose also equates to less toxic effects.  I've got such strong negative feelings about Zyprexa too.  I may be being a bit biased.  I was basing a greater than usual reduction, on that you've been on it just barely a month, and that might make it smoother. 

 

Okay.  Well.  Ultimately, up to you, and if you really feel the benefit(for sleep) is better at 5 mg........well, okay.  I might have misread your updates and answers.  I thought sleep was still a mighty issue.  Or lack of it.

 

Best,  L, P, H, and G,

mmt

 

 

Breathing problems when trying to sleep started when I stopped taking zyprexa and zoloft for 10 days. After that I reinstated zyprexa 2.5mg and after that 5mg. It is still there. I try sleeping on different positions but it doesn't help. And yes sleeping is the main issue. Just because it is a little better on 5mg it is not that good and I doubt it will be. I wanted to stabilise on 5mg but dunno if it's possible.


2015 - Elicea for 2 months, quit cold turkey, survived withdrawal (brain zaps, severe depression)

2018 - april to july, Xanax, quit cold turkey, no serious withdrawal symptoms

2018 - august to late december, Mirtazapine, psychiatrist got me off it cold turkey

2019 - january to april, Seroxat, again stopped cold turkey

In late january 2019 noticed double vision when looking at bright letters or lights from a distance and certain angles, it is either because of stopping Mirtazapine cold turkey or because of starting Seroxat, I still have it and it might be getting worse with time

2019 - june to 13th of november, Zyprexa (2.5mg-10mg), tappered it on my own very fast (few days) then stopped completely

2019 - middle of october to november 13th, Zoloft (0.6mg-25mg), tappered it on my own very fast (few days) then stopped completely

Horrible withdrawal with severe insomnia afterwards, not feeling hungry or sleepy, never tired, stomach problems, nausea...

24th november - reinstated 2.5mg zyprexa

3rd december - 5mg zyprexa

new symptoms - glare, halos around lights, muscle twitching worse, eyelid and cheek twitching every 5-10 minutes

11th january 2020 - 4.3mg zyprexa

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21 hours ago, Altostrata said:

Your sleeping pattern may indicate a paradoxical reaction to too much Zyprexa.

 


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Hell

Hmmm I dunno. I slept worse on less tho. I will think about it and tapper soon maybe. Thanks.


2015 - Elicea for 2 months, quit cold turkey, survived withdrawal (brain zaps, severe depression)

2018 - april to july, Xanax, quit cold turkey, no serious withdrawal symptoms

2018 - august to late december, Mirtazapine, psychiatrist got me off it cold turkey

2019 - january to april, Seroxat, again stopped cold turkey

In late january 2019 noticed double vision when looking at bright letters or lights from a distance and certain angles, it is either because of stopping Mirtazapine cold turkey or because of starting Seroxat, I still have it and it might be getting worse with time

2019 - june to 13th of november, Zyprexa (2.5mg-10mg), tappered it on my own very fast (few days) then stopped completely

2019 - middle of october to november 13th, Zoloft (0.6mg-25mg), tappered it on my own very fast (few days) then stopped completely

Horrible withdrawal with severe insomnia afterwards, not feeling hungry or sleepy, never tired, stomach problems, nausea...

24th november - reinstated 2.5mg zyprexa

3rd december - 5mg zyprexa

new symptoms - glare, halos around lights, muscle twitching worse, eyelid and cheek twitching every 5-10 minutes

11th january 2020 - 4.3mg zyprexa

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RM123

Hi @Hell I’m really sorry to hear what your going through. Thanks for sharing your story. I too have developed insomnia from withdrawal and reinstating and is my main concern right now. Most of the time I can fall asleep but I wake up within an hr when it used to be 3-4hrs and can’t go back to sleep. It’s killing me. I’m finding it so difficult because of the lack of sleep and what it brings. For me I have developed eyes bags/dark circles too and look like I’m so sick. I never used to have them before this and it makes me feel even worse looking at myself in the mirror. I don’t even look like me anymore. I really hope you and me, all of us will recover and sleep again. 


I can’t remember exact dates but:

 

I CT’d 20mg fluoxitine in Aug 2019. I thought to myself well I might as well come off mirtzapine. 10 years on this drug.

 

I CT’d 15mg Mirtzapine in Sept 2019. 2 years on this drug.

 

Insomnia started in Oct 2019 but I took no notice of it. I panicked in Dec 2019 as it became worse and of course never left. Hoping I I would get my

sleep back I reinstated mirtzapine hoping may sleep would come back in Dec 2019  at 7.5mg for a few days then 15mg for a few days then

stabilised at 7.5mg when I found SA. 

 

Since then I have experienced bloating which I have never had before, and a ectopic heart beat. Im exhausted and can't even think, speak or retain what people are saying to me anymore. I used to speak so intellectually and now I can't even get words out. 

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I'm praying hell and rm123 on here who cannot sleep.  It does get better, gradually and slowly.  My sleep has very slowly improved over the past year.  I have slowed my taper way down.  The past 2 nights I was able to get about 7 to 8 hours of sleep.  I'm grateful for that.  Hang in there, and don't give up.  I'll keep praying. 

 


Lexapro   April02 - Aug17: 10 mg,  ***  Aug17 - Sept17: 5 mg ***  Sept17 - Nov17:  2.5 mg,  ***  Nov17: 0 mg, ***   Dec17 - Aug18: 5 mg  ***    Aug/1/18 - Aug/30/18: 2.5 mg     *** Sep/1/18 - Sep/27/18:  1.25 mg. ***   Sep/28/18 - Oct/31/18:  2.5 mg,  ***  Nov/1/18 - Nov/15/18: 1.25 mg  ***   Nov/16/18 - Nov/30/18: 2.5 mg  ***   Dec/1/18 - Dec/27/18: 2.0 mg (switched to liquid)  ***    Dec/27/18 - Jan/31/19: 1.5 mg ***    Feb/1/19 - Feb/20/19: 1.0 mg  ***  Feb/21/19 - Mar/7/19: 0.5 mg  ***  Mar/8/19 - May/03/19: 0.8 mg ***   May/04/19 - May/13/19 0.7 mg ***  May/14/19 - May/24/19 0.6 mg *** May/25/19 - June/05/19. 0.5 mg *** June/06/19 - July/19/19 0.4 mg. ***  July/20/19 - Sep 14 2019 0.3 mg.  ***  Sep 15 2019 - Oct 21 2019 0.27 mg. *** Oct 22 2019 - Jan 18 2020 - 0.23 mg. *** Jan 19 2020 - April 1 2020 0.2 mg  ***  April 2 2020 - July 15 2020 0.18 mg *** July 16 2020 - August 22 0.17 mg, August 23 -- Oct 6 0.16 mg, Oct 7 - present 0.15 mg

Trazodone.  used 50 mg once every 4-7 days for sleep, have discontinued altogether as of 12/23/19

Xanax. used 0.5 mg once every 4-7 days for sleep, have discontinued altogether as of 12/23/19 

When I cannot go to sleep, I take Benadryl 50 mg, Ibuprofen 800 mg, or Tylenol 1000 mg

other meds: Levothyroxine 75 mag. in AM 1/2 hour before breakfast with 24 ounces water

supplements AM: omega 3 fish oil, flax seed oil, natural multivitamin, vitamin C, vitamin E

supplements PM: Natural Calm magnesium 350 mg, GABA 750 mg, 5-HTP 50 mg. Estroven Sleep Cool and Calm (contains black cohosh 40 mg, soy isoflavones 56 mg) melatonin 3 mg

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Hell

Nearly two months have passed without my situation improving. I refuse to live like this. My eyes are red from lack of sleep. My memory is horrible. I feel like I have dementia. I only stopped meds for 10 days and this hell happened. Reinstating helped a little but it is hardly anything. Days are passing and nothing is getting better. I am supposed to live like this? No thanks. I decided. First day when I get alone at home I am ending this. **** this kind of life. Time is not helping like people here say, not for me. If it did it would get better. Two months and nothing. For some people years without a single improvement, why should I be any different? And stop denying there are people here who stopped sleeping and their situation didn't improved at all and years passed. So there is no hope for me. I'm done. Life without sleep is not living. I would rather die from cancer.


2015 - Elicea for 2 months, quit cold turkey, survived withdrawal (brain zaps, severe depression)

2018 - april to july, Xanax, quit cold turkey, no serious withdrawal symptoms

2018 - august to late december, Mirtazapine, psychiatrist got me off it cold turkey

2019 - january to april, Seroxat, again stopped cold turkey

In late january 2019 noticed double vision when looking at bright letters or lights from a distance and certain angles, it is either because of stopping Mirtazapine cold turkey or because of starting Seroxat, I still have it and it might be getting worse with time

2019 - june to 13th of november, Zyprexa (2.5mg-10mg), tappered it on my own very fast (few days) then stopped completely

2019 - middle of october to november 13th, Zoloft (0.6mg-25mg), tappered it on my own very fast (few days) then stopped completely

Horrible withdrawal with severe insomnia afterwards, not feeling hungry or sleepy, never tired, stomach problems, nausea...

24th november - reinstated 2.5mg zyprexa

3rd december - 5mg zyprexa

new symptoms - glare, halos around lights, muscle twitching worse, eyelid and cheek twitching every 5-10 minutes

11th january 2020 - 4.3mg zyprexa

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Hi Hell, 

 

I can only imagine how hard it is to live with so little sleep. But we don't lie when we tell you thats things get better : it does.

I see that the last dose change you made was on 3d December : so you're in very early days of stabilisation. It took me three months to feel way better, and i'm not back to normal yet. But, life is way more easy !

It will for you too, I wish I could tell you when. It will take time, but you will sleep again, and then thank your oldself for all the strenght you have now.

❤️

 


2006 : 20mg Paroxetine + Bromazepam(no specific dose) 

2008 : cold turkey of both

2010 : 20mg Deroxat + Bromazepam

2013: Switch from Bromazepam To Prazepam (long half-life)

2014-June2017 : Prazepam taper, 3% drops. 

2018 to August 2019 : Paroxetine 20mg taper (3% every 15 days).

- 22nd August updosed To 10mg (was at 8.4mg) because of a big wave. 

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paroxetine. 

 

April 2020-August 2020 : Paxil to Prozac bridge. Details https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/21457-erell-struggling-with-paroxetine/?do=findComment&comment=499847

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate/ fish oil/ evening primrose oil 

 

Current medication :

7mg Fluoxetine + toothpick Paroxetine (since 20 Aug 2020)

1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

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Hell

Doubt I will stabilise if others who cold turkeyed didn't. Plus I am getting muscle twitches now from the zyprexa, especially on my right eye. Every few minutes. I will probably have to taper even tho my sleep is non existant.


2015 - Elicea for 2 months, quit cold turkey, survived withdrawal (brain zaps, severe depression)

2018 - april to july, Xanax, quit cold turkey, no serious withdrawal symptoms

2018 - august to late december, Mirtazapine, psychiatrist got me off it cold turkey

2019 - january to april, Seroxat, again stopped cold turkey

In late january 2019 noticed double vision when looking at bright letters or lights from a distance and certain angles, it is either because of stopping Mirtazapine cold turkey or because of starting Seroxat, I still have it and it might be getting worse with time

2019 - june to 13th of november, Zyprexa (2.5mg-10mg), tappered it on my own very fast (few days) then stopped completely

2019 - middle of october to november 13th, Zoloft (0.6mg-25mg), tappered it on my own very fast (few days) then stopped completely

Horrible withdrawal with severe insomnia afterwards, not feeling hungry or sleepy, never tired, stomach problems, nausea...

24th november - reinstated 2.5mg zyprexa

3rd december - 5mg zyprexa

new symptoms - glare, halos around lights, muscle twitching worse, eyelid and cheek twitching every 5-10 minutes

11th january 2020 - 4.3mg zyprexa

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Cocopuffz17

There is plenty of people on this forum who CT and have fully healed and are loving life. It can be done and it is very hard to get through, but it can be done. Everyday that passes is one more day closer to being healed! 


I follow The Plant Paradox lifestyle by Dr.Gundry. This lifestyle has given me my life back and I feel better than I have ever felt in my life. It has enabled me to finally get off of this medication and truly live my life. Nutrition is the key to health!!!!! 

 

2008 to 2019  - 20 mg Paroxetine

 

Attempted 2 CT's around the 5-6 year mark. Were absolutely terrible and reinstated. Was never explained by the doctor the seriousness of the short half life of this drug. 

 

2017 - Attempted a tapered discontinuation of this drug and reinstated after being unsuccessful.

 

2019 - Feb. 12 - After a three month taper I am off of paroxetine. The 3 months were terrible, awful withdrawal feelings. I followed the doctors guidelines for the reduction of this drug and now know it was way too fast. 
 

2019 - Oct. 12 - 8 months off paroxetine. 75% improvement since coming off the drug. Definitely have had tons of challenges along the way. Let’s go!!!! 

 

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3 hours ago, Cocopuffz17 said:

There is plenty of people on this forum who CT and have fully healed and are loving life. It can be done and it is very hard to get through, but it can be done. Everyday that passes is one more day closer to being healed! 

Ct from zyprexa and fully healed? Show me where.


2015 - Elicea for 2 months, quit cold turkey, survived withdrawal (brain zaps, severe depression)

2018 - april to july, Xanax, quit cold turkey, no serious withdrawal symptoms

2018 - august to late december, Mirtazapine, psychiatrist got me off it cold turkey

2019 - january to april, Seroxat, again stopped cold turkey

In late january 2019 noticed double vision when looking at bright letters or lights from a distance and certain angles, it is either because of stopping Mirtazapine cold turkey or because of starting Seroxat, I still have it and it might be getting worse with time

2019 - june to 13th of november, Zyprexa (2.5mg-10mg), tappered it on my own very fast (few days) then stopped completely

2019 - middle of october to november 13th, Zoloft (0.6mg-25mg), tappered it on my own very fast (few days) then stopped completely

Horrible withdrawal with severe insomnia afterwards, not feeling hungry or sleepy, never tired, stomach problems, nausea...

24th november - reinstated 2.5mg zyprexa

3rd december - 5mg zyprexa

new symptoms - glare, halos around lights, muscle twitching worse, eyelid and cheek twitching every 5-10 minutes

11th january 2020 - 4.3mg zyprexa

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I was very similar to you, with the most torturous depression and dp/dr also.
I also c/t'd from zyprexa, and it was terrible, especially in the first 6 months after stopping, but it gets better with time. There are nights where I get little to no sleep still, as I am still not 100% healed, but healing is happening. More time is all thats needed.
You're still at the very beginning of withdrawals. Zyprexa is nasty, yes, bt there are people who have recovered. I'm feeling much better myself, and sleeping better overall.


Reason for Medication

Anxiety (money problems, future, lack of physical safety, dangerous environment) causing mild insomnia.

 

Summary    

2010 - Lexapro - (took one tablet (vomiting, tremors, high anxiety) stopped without any issues)

2013 - Cymbalta - (60mg daily for 7 months - cold turkey without any major issues aside from nausea/vomiting, "brain zaps" and dizziness)

2013 - Seroquel - (a low dose for roughly 1 month - weight gain of 20kg, cold turkey because of rapid weight gain without any issues)

2018 - September 4th - (Cymbalta 20mg for two days, stopped due to tremors & anxiety)

2018 - September 9th - (Olanzapine 2.5mg until October 3rd, then 5mg once, then back to 2.5mg once, then took random varying doses every day for a week from 2.5mg up to 5.0mg due to panic caused by the drug, then I attempted withdrawal Cold Turkey (recommenced at lower dose after 4 days of trying to withdraw Cold Turkey - I took 0.625mg every night until I finally successfully stopped cold turkey roughly one week later).

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38 minutes ago, Hell said:

Ct from zyprexa and fully healed? Show me where.

Hi Hell,

I'm in a similar situation to you since I finished my olanzapine taper from 10 mg (for one month) to 0 mg in 6 weeks time, 2.5mg tapering every two weeks as prescribed by a doctor. Their recommendation was to stay on it for 1-2 years more so I'm glad they gave me a tapering plan when I wanted off. But judging by this forum it's almost a cold turkey. Going from 2.5mg to 0 mg (december 6th ) took away my ability to sleep (instead tremors, sweating, muscle spasms, head aches). After two weeks without sleep I took 7.5 mg Olanzapine but still couldnt sleep. I thought I was going to die possibly by my own hand due to how I was deteriorating and called an emergency psychiatric number. They told me sleep wouldn't come without medicine so the next day I got a couple of extra sleep medicines. (Zopiclone and Propiomazine) They also wanted me back up on 5mg Olanzapine. I don't think Olanzapine does much for sleep anymore for me but I am noticing that I'm less zombified now when Im also taking other sleep medication. I still don't remember sleeping or waking up just rolling in bed but I must be getting 2+ hours of very broken sleep instead of 0-1 hour per night now because I feel life is sustainable on the extra medication.  You might need sleeping aid other than Olanzapine for your brain to recover.

 

I was following your thread daily as I'm desperately looking for positive outcomes on the net, I hope you will be one.

 

I found one perhaps fully healed outcome here: Search for a comment by "Tracey" in this thread:

https://mentalhealthdaily.com/2014/07/10/zyprexa-olanzapine-withdrawal-symptoms-how-long-do-they-last/

 

Even if one doesn't get fully healed it's enough if life can be enjoyable.


A week of oxazepam 10mg with 1 day of zopiclone 7.5mg and concurrent Zyprexa totalling:

10 mg 25 days , 7.5mg 18 days, 5 mg 14 days, 2.5 mg 11 days,  10x0mg with 4 days 1mg centrally interdispersed totalling 14 days.

Due to very bad condition reinstatement: zyprexa 7.5mg zopiclone 8.5mg, 25mg Propiomazine.

Immediately down to 5mg. Then a gradual taper during 6 months down to nothing but zyprexa and 0.0 mg again.

6 days of 0 mg. Then reinstatement 0.12mg two days and then 0.25 mg.

Since 23 june 2020: 0.25mg zyprexa.

Since 29 june 2020: 0.12mg zyprexa. plan to hold a month.

 8th and 9th july 2020 also 0.375mg Melatonin

Since 9 july 2020 0.16mg zyprexa

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3 hours ago, Shane88L said:

I was very similar to you, with the most torturous depression and dp/dr also.
I also c/t'd from zyprexa, and it was terrible, especially in the first 6 months after stopping, but it gets better with time. There are nights where I get little to no sleep still, as I am still not 100% healed, but healing is happening. More time is all thats needed.
You're still at the very beginning of withdrawals. Zyprexa is nasty, yes, bt there are people who have recovered. I'm feeling much better myself, and sleeping better overall.

You didn't took it for long and it was a very small dose. I took 7.5mg and 10mg for a while. 

 

I am glad that you are fine but there is a difference. 


2015 - Elicea for 2 months, quit cold turkey, survived withdrawal (brain zaps, severe depression)

2018 - april to july, Xanax, quit cold turkey, no serious withdrawal symptoms

2018 - august to late december, Mirtazapine, psychiatrist got me off it cold turkey

2019 - january to april, Seroxat, again stopped cold turkey

In late january 2019 noticed double vision when looking at bright letters or lights from a distance and certain angles, it is either because of stopping Mirtazapine cold turkey or because of starting Seroxat, I still have it and it might be getting worse with time

2019 - june to 13th of november, Zyprexa (2.5mg-10mg), tappered it on my own very fast (few days) then stopped completely

2019 - middle of october to november 13th, Zoloft (0.6mg-25mg), tappered it on my own very fast (few days) then stopped completely

Horrible withdrawal with severe insomnia afterwards, not feeling hungry or sleepy, never tired, stomach problems, nausea...

24th november - reinstated 2.5mg zyprexa

3rd december - 5mg zyprexa

new symptoms - glare, halos around lights, muscle twitching worse, eyelid and cheek twitching every 5-10 minutes

11th january 2020 - 4.3mg zyprexa

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Hell

I did a blood test and my prolactin is high. Appearently it could cause insomnia too. Should I treat it? I hate meds in general now so I would rather not.


2015 - Elicea for 2 months, quit cold turkey, survived withdrawal (brain zaps, severe depression)

2018 - april to july, Xanax, quit cold turkey, no serious withdrawal symptoms

2018 - august to late december, Mirtazapine, psychiatrist got me off it cold turkey

2019 - january to april, Seroxat, again stopped cold turkey

In late january 2019 noticed double vision when looking at bright letters or lights from a distance and certain angles, it is either because of stopping Mirtazapine cold turkey or because of starting Seroxat, I still have it and it might be getting worse with time

2019 - june to 13th of november, Zyprexa (2.5mg-10mg), tappered it on my own very fast (few days) then stopped completely

2019 - middle of october to november 13th, Zoloft (0.6mg-25mg), tappered it on my own very fast (few days) then stopped completely

Horrible withdrawal with severe insomnia afterwards, not feeling hungry or sleepy, never tired, stomach problems, nausea...

24th november - reinstated 2.5mg zyprexa

3rd december - 5mg zyprexa

new symptoms - glare, halos around lights, muscle twitching worse, eyelid and cheek twitching every 5-10 minutes

11th january 2020 - 4.3mg zyprexa

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Altostrata

Elevated prolactin is a recognized adverse effect of olanzapine. Reducing olanzapine can reduce the adverse effect.

 

Otherwise, please discuss this with your doctor.


This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner.

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Hell

I have a short trip planned soon so I will start tappering after I come home. I really hope my sleep won't suffer even more when I do.

 

Btw I visited psychiatrist yesterday. She is denying that ct'ing caused my insomnia and blames it on prolactin lol. And she wants me off zyprexa in like few days lol. She even planned to put me on more meds. Thank God I found you guys otherwise I would be medicated to hell and suffering another full blown zyprexa withdrawal.

 

And also, are constant muscle twitches I am getting from zyprexa dangerous? I hope not because I want to tapper slowly. 


2015 - Elicea for 2 months, quit cold turkey, survived withdrawal (brain zaps, severe depression)

2018 - april to july, Xanax, quit cold turkey, no serious withdrawal symptoms

2018 - august to late december, Mirtazapine, psychiatrist got me off it cold turkey

2019 - january to april, Seroxat, again stopped cold turkey

In late january 2019 noticed double vision when looking at bright letters or lights from a distance and certain angles, it is either because of stopping Mirtazapine cold turkey or because of starting Seroxat, I still have it and it might be getting worse with time

2019 - june to 13th of november, Zyprexa (2.5mg-10mg), tappered it on my own very fast (few days) then stopped completely

2019 - middle of october to november 13th, Zoloft (0.6mg-25mg), tappered it on my own very fast (few days) then stopped completely

Horrible withdrawal with severe insomnia afterwards, not feeling hungry or sleepy, never tired, stomach problems, nausea...

24th november - reinstated 2.5mg zyprexa

3rd december - 5mg zyprexa

new symptoms - glare, halos around lights, muscle twitching worse, eyelid and cheek twitching every 5-10 minutes

11th january 2020 - 4.3mg zyprexa

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Hell

Eyelid of my right eye is twitching every 5-10 minutes since few days back. It is getting annoying. I noticed it is twitching less few hours after taking zyprexa last night but comes back in the morning. I hope it goes away it is so annoying.

Sleep is not that good either.


2015 - Elicea for 2 months, quit cold turkey, survived withdrawal (brain zaps, severe depression)

2018 - april to july, Xanax, quit cold turkey, no serious withdrawal symptoms

2018 - august to late december, Mirtazapine, psychiatrist got me off it cold turkey

2019 - january to april, Seroxat, again stopped cold turkey

In late january 2019 noticed double vision when looking at bright letters or lights from a distance and certain angles, it is either because of stopping Mirtazapine cold turkey or because of starting Seroxat, I still have it and it might be getting worse with time

2019 - june to 13th of november, Zyprexa (2.5mg-10mg), tappered it on my own very fast (few days) then stopped completely

2019 - middle of october to november 13th, Zoloft (0.6mg-25mg), tappered it on my own very fast (few days) then stopped completely

Horrible withdrawal with severe insomnia afterwards, not feeling hungry or sleepy, never tired, stomach problems, nausea...

24th november - reinstated 2.5mg zyprexa

3rd december - 5mg zyprexa

new symptoms - glare, halos around lights, muscle twitching worse, eyelid and cheek twitching every 5-10 minutes

11th january 2020 - 4.3mg zyprexa

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Cocopuffz17
3 hours ago, Hell said:

Eyelid of my right eye is twitching every 5-10 minutes since few days back. It is getting annoying. I noticed it is twitching less few hours after taking zyprexa last night but comes back in the morning. I hope it goes away it is so annoying.

Sleep is not that good either.

Mine use to do this as well. It does get better in time. 


I follow The Plant Paradox lifestyle by Dr.Gundry. This lifestyle has given me my life back and I feel better than I have ever felt in my life. It has enabled me to finally get off of this medication and truly live my life. Nutrition is the key to health!!!!! 

 

2008 to 2019  - 20 mg Paroxetine

 

Attempted 2 CT's around the 5-6 year mark. Were absolutely terrible and reinstated. Was never explained by the doctor the seriousness of the short half life of this drug. 

 

2017 - Attempted a tapered discontinuation of this drug and reinstated after being unsuccessful.

 

2019 - Feb. 12 - After a three month taper I am off of paroxetine. The 3 months were terrible, awful withdrawal feelings. I followed the doctors guidelines for the reduction of this drug and now know it was way too fast. 
 

2019 - Oct. 12 - 8 months off paroxetine. 75% improvement since coming off the drug. Definitely have had tons of challenges along the way. Let’s go!!!! 

 

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Shane88L

Mine also - my right upper eyelid twitching quite regularly. Stress causes it I've figured.


Reason for Medication

Anxiety (money problems, future, lack of physical safety, dangerous environment) causing mild insomnia.

 

Summary    

2010 - Lexapro - (took one tablet (vomiting, tremors, high anxiety) stopped without any issues)

2013 - Cymbalta - (60mg daily for 7 months - cold turkey without any major issues aside from nausea/vomiting, "brain zaps" and dizziness)

2013 - Seroquel - (a low dose for roughly 1 month - weight gain of 20kg, cold turkey because of rapid weight gain without any issues)

2018 - September 4th - (Cymbalta 20mg for two days, stopped due to tremors & anxiety)

2018 - September 9th - (Olanzapine 2.5mg until October 3rd, then 5mg once, then back to 2.5mg once, then took random varying doses every day for a week from 2.5mg up to 5.0mg due to panic caused by the drug, then I attempted withdrawal Cold Turkey (recommenced at lower dose after 4 days of trying to withdraw Cold Turkey - I took 0.625mg every night until I finally successfully stopped cold turkey roughly one week later).

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Hell

Tappered to around 4+ mg last night and slept worse.


2015 - Elicea for 2 months, quit cold turkey, survived withdrawal (brain zaps, severe depression)

2018 - april to july, Xanax, quit cold turkey, no serious withdrawal symptoms

2018 - august to late december, Mirtazapine, psychiatrist got me off it cold turkey

2019 - january to april, Seroxat, again stopped cold turkey

In late january 2019 noticed double vision when looking at bright letters or lights from a distance and certain angles, it is either because of stopping Mirtazapine cold turkey or because of starting Seroxat, I still have it and it might be getting worse with time

2019 - june to 13th of november, Zyprexa (2.5mg-10mg), tappered it on my own very fast (few days) then stopped completely

2019 - middle of october to november 13th, Zoloft (0.6mg-25mg), tappered it on my own very fast (few days) then stopped completely

Horrible withdrawal with severe insomnia afterwards, not feeling hungry or sleepy, never tired, stomach problems, nausea...

24th november - reinstated 2.5mg zyprexa

3rd december - 5mg zyprexa

new symptoms - glare, halos around lights, muscle twitching worse, eyelid and cheek twitching every 5-10 minutes

11th january 2020 - 4.3mg zyprexa

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On 1/12/2020 at 12:39 PM, Hell said:

Tappered to around 4+ mg last night and slept worse.

Woke up hundreds of times last night. It seems I can't tolerate tappering. It is not like 5mg is that good but tappering is even worse.

 

Btw now my right cheek is twitching as well as the eyelid.


2015 - Elicea for 2 months, quit cold turkey, survived withdrawal (brain zaps, severe depression)

2018 - april to july, Xanax, quit cold turkey, no serious withdrawal symptoms

2018 - august to late december, Mirtazapine, psychiatrist got me off it cold turkey

2019 - january to april, Seroxat, again stopped cold turkey

In late january 2019 noticed double vision when looking at bright letters or lights from a distance and certain angles, it is either because of stopping Mirtazapine cold turkey or because of starting Seroxat, I still have it and it might be getting worse with time

2019 - june to 13th of november, Zyprexa (2.5mg-10mg), tappered it on my own very fast (few days) then stopped completely

2019 - middle of october to november 13th, Zoloft (0.6mg-25mg), tappered it on my own very fast (few days) then stopped completely

Horrible withdrawal with severe insomnia afterwards, not feeling hungry or sleepy, never tired, stomach problems, nausea...

24th november - reinstated 2.5mg zyprexa

3rd december - 5mg zyprexa

new symptoms - glare, halos around lights, muscle twitching worse, eyelid and cheek twitching every 5-10 minutes

11th january 2020 - 4.3mg zyprexa

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Gridley
3 hours ago, Hell said:

It seems I can't tolerate tappering

How long are you holding between drops?  You may need to hold longer to let your system stabilize between drops.


Gridley Introduction

 

Lexapro 20 mg since 2004.  Began taper using Brassmonkey slide Jan. 2017.   

End 2017 year 1 of taper at 9.25mg 

End 2018 year 2 of taper at 4.1mg

End 2019 year 3 of taper at 1.0mg  

Current from Oct. 21, 2020 at 0.025mg

Taper is 99.875% complete.

 

Lorazepam 1 mg 1986-1991 CT, resumed a few months later. CT 2000.  1 mg 2011-2016.  Sept, 2016 increased to 0.5 X 3 in split dose. Sept. 2019 increased to 0.625 X 3 after crossover to new brand

 

Imipramine 75 mg daily since 1986.  Jan. 2016 began every 3-weeks 10% taper, down to 15mg.  Aug 2016, discovered SA, updosed to 25mg and holding.  Taper is 66% complete.  

  

Supplements: omega, vitamins E and D3, magnesium glycinate, probiotic, melatonin .3mg


I am not a medical professional and this is not medical advice, but simply information based on my own experience, as well as other members who have survived these drugs.

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Hell

This is the first time I tappered in a while. I was on 5mg for a month. I need to buy a scale to tapper precisely. I plan to hold for a month after every drop.

 

The problem is it is already affecting me after first time I dropped recently.


2015 - Elicea for 2 months, quit cold turkey, survived withdrawal (brain zaps, severe depression)

2018 - april to july, Xanax, quit cold turkey, no serious withdrawal symptoms

2018 - august to late december, Mirtazapine, psychiatrist got me off it cold turkey

2019 - january to april, Seroxat, again stopped cold turkey

In late january 2019 noticed double vision when looking at bright letters or lights from a distance and certain angles, it is either because of stopping Mirtazapine cold turkey or because of starting Seroxat, I still have it and it might be getting worse with time

2019 - june to 13th of november, Zyprexa (2.5mg-10mg), tappered it on my own very fast (few days) then stopped completely

2019 - middle of october to november 13th, Zoloft (0.6mg-25mg), tappered it on my own very fast (few days) then stopped completely

Horrible withdrawal with severe insomnia afterwards, not feeling hungry or sleepy, never tired, stomach problems, nausea...

24th november - reinstated 2.5mg zyprexa

3rd december - 5mg zyprexa

new symptoms - glare, halos around lights, muscle twitching worse, eyelid and cheek twitching every 5-10 minutes

11th january 2020 - 4.3mg zyprexa

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Hell

Will I sleep less with every tapper? If yes, I will just get to square one when I get to zero mgs... Just like when I stopped the first time. Why did I even reinstated if I am going back to no sleep again eventually... 


2015 - Elicea for 2 months, quit cold turkey, survived withdrawal (brain zaps, severe depression)

2018 - april to july, Xanax, quit cold turkey, no serious withdrawal symptoms

2018 - august to late december, Mirtazapine, psychiatrist got me off it cold turkey

2019 - january to april, Seroxat, again stopped cold turkey

In late january 2019 noticed double vision when looking at bright letters or lights from a distance and certain angles, it is either because of stopping Mirtazapine cold turkey or because of starting Seroxat, I still have it and it might be getting worse with time

2019 - june to 13th of november, Zyprexa (2.5mg-10mg), tappered it on my own very fast (few days) then stopped completely

2019 - middle of october to november 13th, Zoloft (0.6mg-25mg), tappered it on my own very fast (few days) then stopped completely

Horrible withdrawal with severe insomnia afterwards, not feeling hungry or sleepy, never tired, stomach problems, nausea...

24th november - reinstated 2.5mg zyprexa

3rd december - 5mg zyprexa

new symptoms - glare, halos around lights, muscle twitching worse, eyelid and cheek twitching every 5-10 minutes

11th january 2020 - 4.3mg zyprexa

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Erell

Hi Hell, 

 

main thing with a taper of these meds is "Slow" : you just dropped last Saturday, it is possible that your CNS needs time to try to stabilise to a dose.

On 1/13/2020 at 4:40 PM, Gridley said:

How long are you holding between drops?  You may need to hold longer to let your system stabilize between drops.

 

 

Stay strong ❤️

 


2006 : 20mg Paroxetine + Bromazepam(no specific dose) 

2008 : cold turkey of both

2010 : 20mg Deroxat + Bromazepam

2013: Switch from Bromazepam To Prazepam (long half-life)

2014-June2017 : Prazepam taper, 3% drops. 

2018 to August 2019 : Paroxetine 20mg taper (3% every 15 days).

- 22nd August updosed To 10mg (was at 8.4mg) because of a big wave. 

25th Sept 2019 To April 2020 : found SA, holding at 10mg Paroxetine. 

 

April 2020-August 2020 : Paxil to Prozac bridge. Details https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/21457-erell-struggling-with-paroxetine/?do=findComment&comment=499847

 

Current Supplements : magnesium citrate/ fish oil/ evening primrose oil 

 

Current medication :

7mg Fluoxetine + toothpick Paroxetine (since 20 Aug 2020)

1mg Diazepam (since 29 Aug 2020)

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getofflex
On 1/14/2020 at 5:41 AM, Hell said:

Will I sleep less with every tapper? If yes, I will just get to square one when I get to zero mgs... Just like when I stopped the first time. Why did I even reinstated if I am going back to no sleep again eventually... 

Hell, I am still tapering my Lexapro, and my sleep is vastly improved to what it was a year ago, and much better than it was 6 months ago.  I was tapering way too fast before I found this forum, and now I'm tapering extremely slowly.  My pattern is usually that a few weeks after a taper, my sleep worsens, but then about 4-6 weeks into the taper my sleep improves.  Right now it's been almost 3 months since I last tapered.  I'm doing this because a) I really need for my nervous system to stabilize, as I got burned out dealing with WD, and 2) I've had many external stressors, including that my mom is aging and having a lot of health issues and needing help.  

 

You could possibly try just holding at your dose for a few months, and let you sleep improve before you try to taper again. 


Lexapro   April02 - Aug17: 10 mg,  ***  Aug17 - Sept17: 5 mg ***  Sept17 - Nov17:  2.5 mg,  ***  Nov17: 0 mg, ***   Dec17 - Aug18: 5 mg  ***    Aug/1/18 - Aug/30/18: 2.5 mg     *** Sep/1/18 - Sep/27/18:  1.25 mg. ***   Sep/28/18 - Oct/31/18:  2.5 mg,  ***  Nov/1/18 - Nov/15/18: 1.25 mg  ***   Nov/16/18 - Nov/30/18: 2.5 mg  ***   Dec/1/18 - Dec/27/18: 2.0 mg (switched to liquid)  ***    Dec/27/18 - Jan/31/19: 1.5 mg ***    Feb/1/19 - Feb/20/19: 1.0 mg  ***  Feb/21/19 - Mar/7/19: 0.5 mg  ***  Mar/8/19 - May/03/19: 0.8 mg ***   May/04/19 - May/13/19 0.7 mg ***  May/14/19 - May/24/19 0.6 mg *** May/25/19 - June/05/19. 0.5 mg *** June/06/19 - July/19/19 0.4 mg. ***  July/20/19 - Sep 14 2019 0.3 mg.  ***  Sep 15 2019 - Oct 21 2019 0.27 mg. *** Oct 22 2019 - Jan 18 2020 - 0.23 mg. *** Jan 19 2020 - April 1 2020 0.2 mg  ***  April 2 2020 - July 15 2020 0.18 mg *** July 16 2020 - August 22 0.17 mg, August 23 -- Oct 6 0.16 mg, Oct 7 - present 0.15 mg

Trazodone.  used 50 mg once every 4-7 days for sleep, have discontinued altogether as of 12/23/19

Xanax. used 0.5 mg once every 4-7 days for sleep, have discontinued altogether as of 12/23/19 

When I cannot go to sleep, I take Benadryl 50 mg, Ibuprofen 800 mg, or Tylenol 1000 mg

other meds: Levothyroxine 75 mag. in AM 1/2 hour before breakfast with 24 ounces water

supplements AM: omega 3 fish oil, flax seed oil, natural multivitamin, vitamin C, vitamin E

supplements PM: Natural Calm magnesium 350 mg, GABA 750 mg, 5-HTP 50 mg. Estroven Sleep Cool and Calm (contains black cohosh 40 mg, soy isoflavones 56 mg) melatonin 3 mg

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Hell

Maybe I should have stayed at 5mg. I will try to endure this but I feel horrible from the lack of sleep. 


2015 - Elicea for 2 months, quit cold turkey, survived withdrawal (brain zaps, severe depression)

2018 - april to july, Xanax, quit cold turkey, no serious withdrawal symptoms

2018 - august to late december, Mirtazapine, psychiatrist got me off it cold turkey

2019 - january to april, Seroxat, again stopped cold turkey

In late january 2019 noticed double vision when looking at bright letters or lights from a distance and certain angles, it is either because of stopping Mirtazapine cold turkey or because of starting Seroxat, I still have it and it might be getting worse with time

2019 - june to 13th of november, Zyprexa (2.5mg-10mg), tappered it on my own very fast (few days) then stopped completely

2019 - middle of october to november 13th, Zoloft (0.6mg-25mg), tappered it on my own very fast (few days) then stopped completely

Horrible withdrawal with severe insomnia afterwards, not feeling hungry or sleepy, never tired, stomach problems, nausea...

24th november - reinstated 2.5mg zyprexa

3rd december - 5mg zyprexa

new symptoms - glare, halos around lights, muscle twitching worse, eyelid and cheek twitching every 5-10 minutes

11th january 2020 - 4.3mg zyprexa

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Hell

On top of everything I got myself a flu. Like it isn't enough what I am already going through.

 

Anyways nothing new to report. Everything is still hellish and I have constant suicidal thoughts.


2015 - Elicea for 2 months, quit cold turkey, survived withdrawal (brain zaps, severe depression)

2018 - april to july, Xanax, quit cold turkey, no serious withdrawal symptoms

2018 - august to late december, Mirtazapine, psychiatrist got me off it cold turkey

2019 - january to april, Seroxat, again stopped cold turkey

In late january 2019 noticed double vision when looking at bright letters or lights from a distance and certain angles, it is either because of stopping Mirtazapine cold turkey or because of starting Seroxat, I still have it and it might be getting worse with time

2019 - june to 13th of november, Zyprexa (2.5mg-10mg), tappered it on my own very fast (few days) then stopped completely

2019 - middle of october to november 13th, Zoloft (0.6mg-25mg), tappered it on my own very fast (few days) then stopped completely

Horrible withdrawal with severe insomnia afterwards, not feeling hungry or sleepy, never tired, stomach problems, nausea...

24th november - reinstated 2.5mg zyprexa

3rd december - 5mg zyprexa

new symptoms - glare, halos around lights, muscle twitching worse, eyelid and cheek twitching every 5-10 minutes

11th january 2020 - 4.3mg zyprexa

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getofflex

Hell, I'm deeply sorry for the awful time you are having.  Please, don't go through with the suicidal thoughts.  I was having a very rough time with my emotions a month ago, I was crying a whole lot, and filled with terrible anxiety.  I started going to AA (I had a drinking problem years ago), and this has helped tremendously.  It has helped by giving me a a lot more support, and also working the 12 steps has given me a method for dealing with all of my emotions that the antidepressants were covering up.  I feel so much happier and more peaceful now, and less alone in dealing with this withdrawal.  


Lexapro   April02 - Aug17: 10 mg,  ***  Aug17 - Sept17: 5 mg ***  Sept17 - Nov17:  2.5 mg,  ***  Nov17: 0 mg, ***   Dec17 - Aug18: 5 mg  ***    Aug/1/18 - Aug/30/18: 2.5 mg     *** Sep/1/18 - Sep/27/18:  1.25 mg. ***   Sep/28/18 - Oct/31/18:  2.5 mg,  ***  Nov/1/18 - Nov/15/18: 1.25 mg  ***   Nov/16/18 - Nov/30/18: 2.5 mg  ***   Dec/1/18 - Dec/27/18: 2.0 mg (switched to liquid)  ***    Dec/27/18 - Jan/31/19: 1.5 mg ***    Feb/1/19 - Feb/20/19: 1.0 mg  ***  Feb/21/19 - Mar/7/19: 0.5 mg  ***  Mar/8/19 - May/03/19: 0.8 mg ***   May/04/19 - May/13/19 0.7 mg ***  May/14/19 - May/24/19 0.6 mg *** May/25/19 - June/05/19. 0.5 mg *** June/06/19 - July/19/19 0.4 mg. ***  July/20/19 - Sep 14 2019 0.3 mg.  ***  Sep 15 2019 - Oct 21 2019 0.27 mg. *** Oct 22 2019 - Jan 18 2020 - 0.23 mg. *** Jan 19 2020 - April 1 2020 0.2 mg  ***  April 2 2020 - July 15 2020 0.18 mg *** July 16 2020 - August 22 0.17 mg, August 23 -- Oct 6 0.16 mg, Oct 7 - present 0.15 mg

Trazodone.  used 50 mg once every 4-7 days for sleep, have discontinued altogether as of 12/23/19

Xanax. used 0.5 mg once every 4-7 days for sleep, have discontinued altogether as of 12/23/19 

When I cannot go to sleep, I take Benadryl 50 mg, Ibuprofen 800 mg, or Tylenol 1000 mg

other meds: Levothyroxine 75 mag. in AM 1/2 hour before breakfast with 24 ounces water

supplements AM: omega 3 fish oil, flax seed oil, natural multivitamin, vitamin C, vitamin E

supplements PM: Natural Calm magnesium 350 mg, GABA 750 mg, 5-HTP 50 mg. Estroven Sleep Cool and Calm (contains black cohosh 40 mg, soy isoflavones 56 mg) melatonin 3 mg

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Hell

It is hard not to. The flu is killing me I have high tempearute and can't breath through the nose so I don't sleep at all since last night.


2015 - Elicea for 2 months, quit cold turkey, survived withdrawal (brain zaps, severe depression)

2018 - april to july, Xanax, quit cold turkey, no serious withdrawal symptoms

2018 - august to late december, Mirtazapine, psychiatrist got me off it cold turkey

2019 - january to april, Seroxat, again stopped cold turkey

In late january 2019 noticed double vision when looking at bright letters or lights from a distance and certain angles, it is either because of stopping Mirtazapine cold turkey or because of starting Seroxat, I still have it and it might be getting worse with time

2019 - june to 13th of november, Zyprexa (2.5mg-10mg), tappered it on my own very fast (few days) then stopped completely

2019 - middle of october to november 13th, Zoloft (0.6mg-25mg), tappered it on my own very fast (few days) then stopped completely

Horrible withdrawal with severe insomnia afterwards, not feeling hungry or sleepy, never tired, stomach problems, nausea...

24th november - reinstated 2.5mg zyprexa

3rd december - 5mg zyprexa

new symptoms - glare, halos around lights, muscle twitching worse, eyelid and cheek twitching every 5-10 minutes

11th january 2020 - 4.3mg zyprexa

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Hell-, since insomnia hit, I also can't sleep when I can't breathe through the nose. I bought one of those devices that holds open your nostrils at night and it works well. I thought it'd be too annoying but I got used to the feeling after a few minutes and fell asleep. This one has three sizes in a pack, I think the small fit me. 

Rhinomed Mute Anti Snoring Aid Solution, Nasal Dilator for Snore Reduction, Breathe Better, Sleep Aid, Comfortable Nose Vent, Assorted https://www.amazon.com/dp/B011LR55UU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_yVvjEbWX0X3HQ

 


3/21/19 started Bupropion XL 150 mg

3/21/19 started Risperidone 2mg

7/7/19 start Abilify half dose 5 mg. discontinue Risperidone

7/9/19 full dose Abilify 10 mg

7/29/19 discontinued Abilify due to panicky side effects

8/2/19 Began Latuda 20 mg

8/5/19 discontinued Latuda due to similar side effects 

8/10/19 discontinued Bupropion after realizing it was causing the insomnia

From 8/10/19 no drugs whatsoever

Currently taking Magnesium 150mgs daily

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Hell

Approaching 3 months. Zero improvement. I give up. It is obvious nothing will get better.


2015 - Elicea for 2 months, quit cold turkey, survived withdrawal (brain zaps, severe depression)

2018 - april to july, Xanax, quit cold turkey, no serious withdrawal symptoms

2018 - august to late december, Mirtazapine, psychiatrist got me off it cold turkey

2019 - january to april, Seroxat, again stopped cold turkey

In late january 2019 noticed double vision when looking at bright letters or lights from a distance and certain angles, it is either because of stopping Mirtazapine cold turkey or because of starting Seroxat, I still have it and it might be getting worse with time

2019 - june to 13th of november, Zyprexa (2.5mg-10mg), tappered it on my own very fast (few days) then stopped completely

2019 - middle of october to november 13th, Zoloft (0.6mg-25mg), tappered it on my own very fast (few days) then stopped completely

Horrible withdrawal with severe insomnia afterwards, not feeling hungry or sleepy, never tired, stomach problems, nausea...

24th november - reinstated 2.5mg zyprexa

3rd december - 5mg zyprexa

new symptoms - glare, halos around lights, muscle twitching worse, eyelid and cheek twitching every 5-10 minutes

11th january 2020 - 4.3mg zyprexa

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@Hell have you tried sleep meditation music videos on Youtube?

 

They really help me get a good night's sleep and sometimes I feel better in the morning from listening to certain frequencies. There is something called "binaural beats" and the waves are mind altering, or so the theory goes.

 

Below is my personal favourite:

 

 

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Hell

I did but nothing works. I can fall asleep on zyprexa at night but I wake up every second. I am tired of this. I look like hell and feel like hell. I am going to give up this fight. Thanks everyone for trying to encourage me but in some cases there is no light at the end of the tunnel. Not everyone can recover from this. I am just one of those cases. 


2015 - Elicea for 2 months, quit cold turkey, survived withdrawal (brain zaps, severe depression)

2018 - april to july, Xanax, quit cold turkey, no serious withdrawal symptoms

2018 - august to late december, Mirtazapine, psychiatrist got me off it cold turkey

2019 - january to april, Seroxat, again stopped cold turkey

In late january 2019 noticed double vision when looking at bright letters or lights from a distance and certain angles, it is either because of stopping Mirtazapine cold turkey or because of starting Seroxat, I still have it and it might be getting worse with time

2019 - june to 13th of november, Zyprexa (2.5mg-10mg), tappered it on my own very fast (few days) then stopped completely

2019 - middle of october to november 13th, Zoloft (0.6mg-25mg), tappered it on my own very fast (few days) then stopped completely

Horrible withdrawal with severe insomnia afterwards, not feeling hungry or sleepy, never tired, stomach problems, nausea...

24th november - reinstated 2.5mg zyprexa

3rd december - 5mg zyprexa

new symptoms - glare, halos around lights, muscle twitching worse, eyelid and cheek twitching every 5-10 minutes

11th january 2020 - 4.3mg zyprexa

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