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Thank you that you are so patient.

 

 

2012 -7/ 2013: paroxetine. 

Fluoxetine: 8 /2013 - 10/2020: 10 mg cold turkey, 12/2020 - 4/2021: 0.5 mg 4-2021 - 0.34 mg 5-2021 : 0.26 mg 05/15/21 : 0.34 mg (crash) 05/30/0 mg Psychiatrie 02 + 03/08/21: 2.5 mg (Bad idea!!!!) 21/09/16: 1 mg

Mirtazapine: 05/30/21 - dato: (tingling all over the body, nightmares, does not help with falling asleep)05/30 - 06/14:15 mg,06/15 - 06/28:22.5 mg. 06/29 - 07/15 15mg 07/16 - 08/01 - 08/14:11.25 mg,since 08/15:7.5 mg, since 08/25: 5 mg

Sertraline.: 06/29 - 07/07:21 25 mg 07/08 - 07/10:12.5 mg 07/11/21 0 mg.

Citalopram: 09/14+15: 2 mg

 

Tavor: in hospital for 4 weeks, 2 mg stopped 08/03/21. 

Trials with: Dominal 80 mg, Quetiapine up to 100 mg, Promethazine, without success.

Zoplicon: since 05.08.21: 1,5 Tbl. stopped at .15.08.21.

Lorazepam: if necessary, now 2,5 mg at day 09/09 - 13/09: 3 x 0,625, 09/14: 3 x 0,5 ,09/15: 3 x 0,5 + 2,5 for sleeping

 

 

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2012 -7/ 2013: paroxetine. 

Fluoxetine: 8 /2013 - 10/2020: 10 mg cold turkey, 12/2020 - 4/2021: 0.5 mg 4-2021 - 0.34 mg 5-2021 : 0.26 mg 05/15/21 : 0.34 mg (crash) 05/30/0 mg Psychiatrie 02 + 03/08/21: 2.5 mg (Bad idea!!!!) 21/09/16: 1 mg

Mirtazapine: 05/30/21 - dato: (tingling all over the body, nightmares, does not help with falling asleep)05/30 - 06/14:15 mg,06/15 - 06/28:22.5 mg. 06/29 - 07/15 15mg 07/16 - 08/01 - 08/14:11.25 mg,since 08/15:7.5 mg, since 08/25: 5 mg

Sertraline.: 06/29 - 07/07:21 25 mg 07/08 - 07/10:12.5 mg 07/11/21 0 mg.

Citalopram: 09/14+15: 2 mg

 

Tavor: in hospital for 4 weeks, 2 mg stopped 08/03/21. 

Trials with: Dominal 80 mg, Quetiapine up to 100 mg, Promethazine, without success.

Zoplicon: since 05.08.21: 1,5 Tbl. stopped at .15.08.21.

Lorazepam: if necessary, now 2,5 mg at day 09/09 - 13/09: 3 x 0,625, 09/14: 3 x 0,5 ,09/15: 3 x 0,5 + 2,5 for sleeping

 

 

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Bitte!!!!!

 

Gebt mir eine Empfehlung ob ich Fluoxetin wieder eindosieren soll!!! Ich hatte doch die erste Wiedereindosierung gut vertragen und nur zu schnell reduziert!!!! 

 

Bitte! Ich will mein Leben nicht verlieren!!!!!!!!

2012 -7/ 2013: paroxetine. 

Fluoxetine: 8 /2013 - 10/2020: 10 mg cold turkey, 12/2020 - 4/2021: 0.5 mg 4-2021 - 0.34 mg 5-2021 : 0.26 mg 05/15/21 : 0.34 mg (crash) 05/30/0 mg Psychiatrie 02 + 03/08/21: 2.5 mg (Bad idea!!!!) 21/09/16: 1 mg

Mirtazapine: 05/30/21 - dato: (tingling all over the body, nightmares, does not help with falling asleep)05/30 - 06/14:15 mg,06/15 - 06/28:22.5 mg. 06/29 - 07/15 15mg 07/16 - 08/01 - 08/14:11.25 mg,since 08/15:7.5 mg, since 08/25: 5 mg

Sertraline.: 06/29 - 07/07:21 25 mg 07/08 - 07/10:12.5 mg 07/11/21 0 mg.

Citalopram: 09/14+15: 2 mg

 

Tavor: in hospital for 4 weeks, 2 mg stopped 08/03/21. 

Trials with: Dominal 80 mg, Quetiapine up to 100 mg, Promethazine, without success.

Zoplicon: since 05.08.21: 1,5 Tbl. stopped at .15.08.21.

Lorazepam: if necessary, now 2,5 mg at day 09/09 - 13/09: 3 x 0,625, 09/14: 3 x 0,5 ,09/15: 3 x 0,5 + 2,5 for sleeping

 

 

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Ich kann mir nicht vorstellen so weiter zu machen!!!!! 😭😭😭

2012 -7/ 2013: paroxetine. 

Fluoxetine: 8 /2013 - 10/2020: 10 mg cold turkey, 12/2020 - 4/2021: 0.5 mg 4-2021 - 0.34 mg 5-2021 : 0.26 mg 05/15/21 : 0.34 mg (crash) 05/30/0 mg Psychiatrie 02 + 03/08/21: 2.5 mg (Bad idea!!!!) 21/09/16: 1 mg

Mirtazapine: 05/30/21 - dato: (tingling all over the body, nightmares, does not help with falling asleep)05/30 - 06/14:15 mg,06/15 - 06/28:22.5 mg. 06/29 - 07/15 15mg 07/16 - 08/01 - 08/14:11.25 mg,since 08/15:7.5 mg, since 08/25: 5 mg

Sertraline.: 06/29 - 07/07:21 25 mg 07/08 - 07/10:12.5 mg 07/11/21 0 mg.

Citalopram: 09/14+15: 2 mg

 

Tavor: in hospital for 4 weeks, 2 mg stopped 08/03/21. 

Trials with: Dominal 80 mg, Quetiapine up to 100 mg, Promethazine, without success.

Zoplicon: since 05.08.21: 1,5 Tbl. stopped at .15.08.21.

Lorazepam: if necessary, now 2,5 mg at day 09/09 - 13/09: 3 x 0,625, 09/14: 3 x 0,5 ,09/15: 3 x 0,5 + 2,5 for sleeping

 

 

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2012 -7/ 2013: paroxetine. 

Fluoxetine: 8 /2013 - 10/2020: 10 mg cold turkey, 12/2020 - 4/2021: 0.5 mg 4-2021 - 0.34 mg 5-2021 : 0.26 mg 05/15/21 : 0.34 mg (crash) 05/30/0 mg Psychiatrie 02 + 03/08/21: 2.5 mg (Bad idea!!!!) 21/09/16: 1 mg

Mirtazapine: 05/30/21 - dato: (tingling all over the body, nightmares, does not help with falling asleep)05/30 - 06/14:15 mg,06/15 - 06/28:22.5 mg. 06/29 - 07/15 15mg 07/16 - 08/01 - 08/14:11.25 mg,since 08/15:7.5 mg, since 08/25: 5 mg

Sertraline.: 06/29 - 07/07:21 25 mg 07/08 - 07/10:12.5 mg 07/11/21 0 mg.

Citalopram: 09/14+15: 2 mg

 

Tavor: in hospital for 4 weeks, 2 mg stopped 08/03/21. 

Trials with: Dominal 80 mg, Quetiapine up to 100 mg, Promethazine, without success.

Zoplicon: since 05.08.21: 1,5 Tbl. stopped at .15.08.21.

Lorazepam: if necessary, now 2,5 mg at day 09/09 - 13/09: 3 x 0,625, 09/14: 3 x 0,5 ,09/15: 3 x 0,5 + 2,5 for sleeping

 

 

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32 minutes ago, Swiffy said:

Gebt mir eine Empfehlung ob ich Fluoxetin wieder eindosieren soll!!! Ich hatte doch die erste Wiedereindosierung gut vertragen und nur zu schnell reduziert!!!! 

 

Bitte! Ich will mein Leben nicht verlieren!!!!!!!!

I am very sorry you are going through this. But understand that similar things or worse happened to many members.

 

Nobody can change what happened. You know what we suggested. Stopping mirtezapine and reinstating prozac is quite a big risk. If you want to take that risk you can do it. We will not decide for you what do do. It is all your own choice and responsiblility.

 

1993    Anafranil (Clomipramine) for a few months. Later in 1993 Paxil for a few months 1993- 2006      No medication

2006   Effexor, Cymbalta, some Benzo’s. All for short periods. Later in 2006 Lexapro (escitalopram) 10 mg and shortly after Wellbutrin XR 150mg, against side effects Lexapro 

Since 2006 until end of 2015: Several times on and off Lexapro and Wellbutrin and several slight dosage changes. Mostly taken dosages: 5mg Lexapro and 150mg Wellbutrin

2016  Dosage change Lexapro from 5mg to 2,5 mg. Wellbutrin stayed om 150mg

November 2016 – April 2017 Down from 2,5mg to 0,6mg Lexapro (in steps) without much problems. Wellbutrin down from 150mg to 66mg. Also without much problems.

April 2017 – March 2019       Lexapro 0,6 mg        April 2017 - August 2018       Wellbutrin in small steps down from 66mg in to 37,5 mg . Quite heavy WD after each step.

March 2019 – May 2019 Lexapro down from 0,6 to 0,3mg then Prozac to 0,6 mg switch because severe discontinuation effects (may also have been from Wellbutrin..)    

Wellbutrin down from 37,5mg to 35,3mg 

October 2019        Seroquel 12,5 mg for 4 weeks because of extreme sleeping problems, then weaning off in 2 weeks       Prozac up dosage to 1,2 mg

March 2020     Wellbutrin in 2 steps down from 35,3mg to 33,3mg   Extreme withdrawal affects during 8 months. Stopped tapering Wellbutrin  until total off Prozac. February 2020 – November 2020   Prozac down in steps from 1,2mg to 0,57mg. 

Jan 2021 Prozac down to:  0,55> 0,53>0,51mg,   Feb 0,47mg ,  Mar 0,42mg,   Apr 0,37, longer hold because of WD symptoms July 0,36 and hold again

 

Supplements: Fish Oil (3000mg), Magnesium 100 mg, 2 drops of Lavender Oil when feeling anxiety. 50mg of L-Theanine when severe discontinuation effects caused by Wellbutrin

 

Please note this is NOT a medical advice. Discuss all your medical issues with a doctor who understands psychical drugs and really knows how to withdraw from them. I wish that you will find one.

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I dont want to stop Mirtazapin, but my withdrawal Comedy from 9 Years of Fluoxetine!!!

 

Im so in the ground about Reading your Report over cold Turkey that i think its saver for me to go in the Hospital now,

I am crying the whole evening

2012 -7/ 2013: paroxetine. 

Fluoxetine: 8 /2013 - 10/2020: 10 mg cold turkey, 12/2020 - 4/2021: 0.5 mg 4-2021 - 0.34 mg 5-2021 : 0.26 mg 05/15/21 : 0.34 mg (crash) 05/30/0 mg Psychiatrie 02 + 03/08/21: 2.5 mg (Bad idea!!!!) 21/09/16: 1 mg

Mirtazapine: 05/30/21 - dato: (tingling all over the body, nightmares, does not help with falling asleep)05/30 - 06/14:15 mg,06/15 - 06/28:22.5 mg. 06/29 - 07/15 15mg 07/16 - 08/01 - 08/14:11.25 mg,since 08/15:7.5 mg, since 08/25: 5 mg

Sertraline.: 06/29 - 07/07:21 25 mg 07/08 - 07/10:12.5 mg 07/11/21 0 mg.

Citalopram: 09/14+15: 2 mg

 

Tavor: in hospital for 4 weeks, 2 mg stopped 08/03/21. 

Trials with: Dominal 80 mg, Quetiapine up to 100 mg, Promethazine, without success.

Zoplicon: since 05.08.21: 1,5 Tbl. stopped at .15.08.21.

Lorazepam: if necessary, now 2,5 mg at day 09/09 - 13/09: 3 x 0,625, 09/14: 3 x 0,5 ,09/15: 3 x 0,5 + 2,5 for sleeping

 

 

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Just now, Swiffy said:

Im so in the ground about Reading your Report over cold Turkey that i think its saver for me to go in the Hospital now,

I am crying the whole evening

Probably they will give you more drugs on high dosages and make everything worse. It is clear that everything started by going nearly CT on fluoxetine. You are right. But just going back on fluoxetine after taking all these other drugs and after so much time will probably not do much good.

 

What you can try if you really insist, is reinstating 1mg fluoxetine and give that time.

 

Do not expect wonders in a couple of days. Your nervous system seems to be totally upset from everything you did with the meds over the last half year.

 

If it works this may take 2-3 weeks. So do not think you will improve in 2 or 3 days!

 

It is all your own choice. If you reinstate 1mg fluoxetine do not stop the mirtezapine at once! Otherwise you will get withdrawal symptoms from mirtezapine also on top of everything.

 

As said it is all your own choice. No one can tell what will happen when in withdrawal. And i mean no one!

 

 

1993    Anafranil (Clomipramine) for a few months. Later in 1993 Paxil for a few months 1993- 2006      No medication

2006   Effexor, Cymbalta, some Benzo’s. All for short periods. Later in 2006 Lexapro (escitalopram) 10 mg and shortly after Wellbutrin XR 150mg, against side effects Lexapro 

Since 2006 until end of 2015: Several times on and off Lexapro and Wellbutrin and several slight dosage changes. Mostly taken dosages: 5mg Lexapro and 150mg Wellbutrin

2016  Dosage change Lexapro from 5mg to 2,5 mg. Wellbutrin stayed om 150mg

November 2016 – April 2017 Down from 2,5mg to 0,6mg Lexapro (in steps) without much problems. Wellbutrin down from 150mg to 66mg. Also without much problems.

April 2017 – March 2019       Lexapro 0,6 mg        April 2017 - August 2018       Wellbutrin in small steps down from 66mg in to 37,5 mg . Quite heavy WD after each step.

March 2019 – May 2019 Lexapro down from 0,6 to 0,3mg then Prozac to 0,6 mg switch because severe discontinuation effects (may also have been from Wellbutrin..)    

Wellbutrin down from 37,5mg to 35,3mg 

October 2019        Seroquel 12,5 mg for 4 weeks because of extreme sleeping problems, then weaning off in 2 weeks       Prozac up dosage to 1,2 mg

March 2020     Wellbutrin in 2 steps down from 35,3mg to 33,3mg   Extreme withdrawal affects during 8 months. Stopped tapering Wellbutrin  until total off Prozac. February 2020 – November 2020   Prozac down in steps from 1,2mg to 0,57mg. 

Jan 2021 Prozac down to:  0,55> 0,53>0,51mg,   Feb 0,47mg ,  Mar 0,42mg,   Apr 0,37, longer hold because of WD symptoms July 0,36 and hold again

 

Supplements: Fish Oil (3000mg), Magnesium 100 mg, 2 drops of Lavender Oil when feeling anxiety. 50mg of L-Theanine when severe discontinuation effects caused by Wellbutrin

 

Please note this is NOT a medical advice. Discuss all your medical issues with a doctor who understands psychical drugs and really knows how to withdraw from them. I wish that you will find one.

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Ich will Mirtazapin nicht aufhalten... 

 

Ok, and when the Fluoxetine ist not okay after the 3 weeks what make IT with them!

2012 -7/ 2013: paroxetine. 

Fluoxetine: 8 /2013 - 10/2020: 10 mg cold turkey, 12/2020 - 4/2021: 0.5 mg 4-2021 - 0.34 mg 5-2021 : 0.26 mg 05/15/21 : 0.34 mg (crash) 05/30/0 mg Psychiatrie 02 + 03/08/21: 2.5 mg (Bad idea!!!!) 21/09/16: 1 mg

Mirtazapine: 05/30/21 - dato: (tingling all over the body, nightmares, does not help with falling asleep)05/30 - 06/14:15 mg,06/15 - 06/28:22.5 mg. 06/29 - 07/15 15mg 07/16 - 08/01 - 08/14:11.25 mg,since 08/15:7.5 mg, since 08/25: 5 mg

Sertraline.: 06/29 - 07/07:21 25 mg 07/08 - 07/10:12.5 mg 07/11/21 0 mg.

Citalopram: 09/14+15: 2 mg

 

Tavor: in hospital for 4 weeks, 2 mg stopped 08/03/21. 

Trials with: Dominal 80 mg, Quetiapine up to 100 mg, Promethazine, without success.

Zoplicon: since 05.08.21: 1,5 Tbl. stopped at .15.08.21.

Lorazepam: if necessary, now 2,5 mg at day 09/09 - 13/09: 3 x 0,625, 09/14: 3 x 0,5 ,09/15: 3 x 0,5 + 2,5 for sleeping

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Swiffy said:
17 minutes ago, Swiffy said:

Ich will Mirtazapin nicht aufhalten... 

Please edit in English

 

 

1993    Anafranil (Clomipramine) for a few months. Later in 1993 Paxil for a few months 1993- 2006      No medication

2006   Effexor, Cymbalta, some Benzo’s. All for short periods. Later in 2006 Lexapro (escitalopram) 10 mg and shortly after Wellbutrin XR 150mg, against side effects Lexapro 

Since 2006 until end of 2015: Several times on and off Lexapro and Wellbutrin and several slight dosage changes. Mostly taken dosages: 5mg Lexapro and 150mg Wellbutrin

2016  Dosage change Lexapro from 5mg to 2,5 mg. Wellbutrin stayed om 150mg

November 2016 – April 2017 Down from 2,5mg to 0,6mg Lexapro (in steps) without much problems. Wellbutrin down from 150mg to 66mg. Also without much problems.

April 2017 – March 2019       Lexapro 0,6 mg        April 2017 - August 2018       Wellbutrin in small steps down from 66mg in to 37,5 mg . Quite heavy WD after each step.

March 2019 – May 2019 Lexapro down from 0,6 to 0,3mg then Prozac to 0,6 mg switch because severe discontinuation effects (may also have been from Wellbutrin..)    

Wellbutrin down from 37,5mg to 35,3mg 

October 2019        Seroquel 12,5 mg for 4 weeks because of extreme sleeping problems, then weaning off in 2 weeks       Prozac up dosage to 1,2 mg

March 2020     Wellbutrin in 2 steps down from 35,3mg to 33,3mg   Extreme withdrawal affects during 8 months. Stopped tapering Wellbutrin  until total off Prozac. February 2020 – November 2020   Prozac down in steps from 1,2mg to 0,57mg. 

Jan 2021 Prozac down to:  0,55> 0,53>0,51mg,   Feb 0,47mg ,  Mar 0,42mg,   Apr 0,37, longer hold because of WD symptoms July 0,36 and hold again

 

Supplements: Fish Oil (3000mg), Magnesium 100 mg, 2 drops of Lavender Oil when feeling anxiety. 50mg of L-Theanine when severe discontinuation effects caused by Wellbutrin

 

Please note this is NOT a medical advice. Discuss all your medical issues with a doctor who understands psychical drugs and really knows how to withdraw from them. I wish that you will find one.

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19 minutes ago, Swiffy said:

Ok, and when the Fluoxetine ist not okay after the 3 weeks what make IT with them!

What do you mean with IT? What are you trying to ask?

1993    Anafranil (Clomipramine) for a few months. Later in 1993 Paxil for a few months 1993- 2006      No medication

2006   Effexor, Cymbalta, some Benzo’s. All for short periods. Later in 2006 Lexapro (escitalopram) 10 mg and shortly after Wellbutrin XR 150mg, against side effects Lexapro 

Since 2006 until end of 2015: Several times on and off Lexapro and Wellbutrin and several slight dosage changes. Mostly taken dosages: 5mg Lexapro and 150mg Wellbutrin

2016  Dosage change Lexapro from 5mg to 2,5 mg. Wellbutrin stayed om 150mg

November 2016 – April 2017 Down from 2,5mg to 0,6mg Lexapro (in steps) without much problems. Wellbutrin down from 150mg to 66mg. Also without much problems.

April 2017 – March 2019       Lexapro 0,6 mg        April 2017 - August 2018       Wellbutrin in small steps down from 66mg in to 37,5 mg . Quite heavy WD after each step.

March 2019 – May 2019 Lexapro down from 0,6 to 0,3mg then Prozac to 0,6 mg switch because severe discontinuation effects (may also have been from Wellbutrin..)    

Wellbutrin down from 37,5mg to 35,3mg 

October 2019        Seroquel 12,5 mg for 4 weeks because of extreme sleeping problems, then weaning off in 2 weeks       Prozac up dosage to 1,2 mg

March 2020     Wellbutrin in 2 steps down from 35,3mg to 33,3mg   Extreme withdrawal affects during 8 months. Stopped tapering Wellbutrin  until total off Prozac. February 2020 – November 2020   Prozac down in steps from 1,2mg to 0,57mg. 

Jan 2021 Prozac down to:  0,55> 0,53>0,51mg,   Feb 0,47mg ,  Mar 0,42mg,   Apr 0,37, longer hold because of WD symptoms July 0,36 and hold again

 

Supplements: Fish Oil (3000mg), Magnesium 100 mg, 2 drops of Lavender Oil when feeling anxiety. 50mg of L-Theanine when severe discontinuation effects caused by Wellbutrin

 

Please note this is NOT a medical advice. Discuss all your medical issues with a doctor who understands psychical drugs and really knows how to withdraw from them. I wish that you will find one.

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How can I reduce it when IT dont helps? And i Said i DONT want to Stop Mirtazapin

2012 -7/ 2013: paroxetine. 

Fluoxetine: 8 /2013 - 10/2020: 10 mg cold turkey, 12/2020 - 4/2021: 0.5 mg 4-2021 - 0.34 mg 5-2021 : 0.26 mg 05/15/21 : 0.34 mg (crash) 05/30/0 mg Psychiatrie 02 + 03/08/21: 2.5 mg (Bad idea!!!!) 21/09/16: 1 mg

Mirtazapine: 05/30/21 - dato: (tingling all over the body, nightmares, does not help with falling asleep)05/30 - 06/14:15 mg,06/15 - 06/28:22.5 mg. 06/29 - 07/15 15mg 07/16 - 08/01 - 08/14:11.25 mg,since 08/15:7.5 mg, since 08/25: 5 mg

Sertraline.: 06/29 - 07/07:21 25 mg 07/08 - 07/10:12.5 mg 07/11/21 0 mg.

Citalopram: 09/14+15: 2 mg

 

Tavor: in hospital for 4 weeks, 2 mg stopped 08/03/21. 

Trials with: Dominal 80 mg, Quetiapine up to 100 mg, Promethazine, without success.

Zoplicon: since 05.08.21: 1,5 Tbl. stopped at .15.08.21.

Lorazepam: if necessary, now 2,5 mg at day 09/09 - 13/09: 3 x 0,625, 09/14: 3 x 0,5 ,09/15: 3 x 0,5 + 2,5 for sleeping

 

 

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21 minutes ago, Swiffy said:

How can I reduce it when IT dont helps? And i Said i DONT want to Stop Mirtazapin

If the fluoxetine reinstatement would not help we have to look again how further. We have to look step by step and see how you feel then.

1993    Anafranil (Clomipramine) for a few months. Later in 1993 Paxil for a few months 1993- 2006      No medication

2006   Effexor, Cymbalta, some Benzo’s. All for short periods. Later in 2006 Lexapro (escitalopram) 10 mg and shortly after Wellbutrin XR 150mg, against side effects Lexapro 

Since 2006 until end of 2015: Several times on and off Lexapro and Wellbutrin and several slight dosage changes. Mostly taken dosages: 5mg Lexapro and 150mg Wellbutrin

2016  Dosage change Lexapro from 5mg to 2,5 mg. Wellbutrin stayed om 150mg

November 2016 – April 2017 Down from 2,5mg to 0,6mg Lexapro (in steps) without much problems. Wellbutrin down from 150mg to 66mg. Also without much problems.

April 2017 – March 2019       Lexapro 0,6 mg        April 2017 - August 2018       Wellbutrin in small steps down from 66mg in to 37,5 mg . Quite heavy WD after each step.

March 2019 – May 2019 Lexapro down from 0,6 to 0,3mg then Prozac to 0,6 mg switch because severe discontinuation effects (may also have been from Wellbutrin..)    

Wellbutrin down from 37,5mg to 35,3mg 

October 2019        Seroquel 12,5 mg for 4 weeks because of extreme sleeping problems, then weaning off in 2 weeks       Prozac up dosage to 1,2 mg

March 2020     Wellbutrin in 2 steps down from 35,3mg to 33,3mg   Extreme withdrawal affects during 8 months. Stopped tapering Wellbutrin  until total off Prozac. February 2020 – November 2020   Prozac down in steps from 1,2mg to 0,57mg. 

Jan 2021 Prozac down to:  0,55> 0,53>0,51mg,   Feb 0,47mg ,  Mar 0,42mg,   Apr 0,37, longer hold because of WD symptoms July 0,36 and hold again

 

Supplements: Fish Oil (3000mg), Magnesium 100 mg, 2 drops of Lavender Oil when feeling anxiety. 50mg of L-Theanine when severe discontinuation effects caused by Wellbutrin

 

Please note this is NOT a medical advice. Discuss all your medical issues with a doctor who understands psychical drugs and really knows how to withdraw from them. I wish that you will find one.

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Ok,

 

since i took the 2,5 mg for two days i get extrem pain at my muskles in the arm. So i think that is a sign that IT is Not so good 😓😓😓 I had i bevore too, but i realised now that it was from Fluoxetine 😓

2012 -7/ 2013: paroxetine. 

Fluoxetine: 8 /2013 - 10/2020: 10 mg cold turkey, 12/2020 - 4/2021: 0.5 mg 4-2021 - 0.34 mg 5-2021 : 0.26 mg 05/15/21 : 0.34 mg (crash) 05/30/0 mg Psychiatrie 02 + 03/08/21: 2.5 mg (Bad idea!!!!) 21/09/16: 1 mg

Mirtazapine: 05/30/21 - dato: (tingling all over the body, nightmares, does not help with falling asleep)05/30 - 06/14:15 mg,06/15 - 06/28:22.5 mg. 06/29 - 07/15 15mg 07/16 - 08/01 - 08/14:11.25 mg,since 08/15:7.5 mg, since 08/25: 5 mg

Sertraline.: 06/29 - 07/07:21 25 mg 07/08 - 07/10:12.5 mg 07/11/21 0 mg.

Citalopram: 09/14+15: 2 mg

 

Tavor: in hospital for 4 weeks, 2 mg stopped 08/03/21. 

Trials with: Dominal 80 mg, Quetiapine up to 100 mg, Promethazine, without success.

Zoplicon: since 05.08.21: 1,5 Tbl. stopped at .15.08.21.

Lorazepam: if necessary, now 2,5 mg at day 09/09 - 13/09: 3 x 0,625, 09/14: 3 x 0,5 ,09/15: 3 x 0,5 + 2,5 for sleeping

 

 

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Hi,

its not your suggestion that confuses me.

 

I am totally confused and i can No more... I cant stay in this horrible Situation for a longer time.

 

How could bei this Akathisia treated?

 

3 Months are enough, i am at my End.

 

I only want to have my life back!!!!!!

 

2012 -7/ 2013: paroxetine. 

Fluoxetine: 8 /2013 - 10/2020: 10 mg cold turkey, 12/2020 - 4/2021: 0.5 mg 4-2021 - 0.34 mg 5-2021 : 0.26 mg 05/15/21 : 0.34 mg (crash) 05/30/0 mg Psychiatrie 02 + 03/08/21: 2.5 mg (Bad idea!!!!) 21/09/16: 1 mg

Mirtazapine: 05/30/21 - dato: (tingling all over the body, nightmares, does not help with falling asleep)05/30 - 06/14:15 mg,06/15 - 06/28:22.5 mg. 06/29 - 07/15 15mg 07/16 - 08/01 - 08/14:11.25 mg,since 08/15:7.5 mg, since 08/25: 5 mg

Sertraline.: 06/29 - 07/07:21 25 mg 07/08 - 07/10:12.5 mg 07/11/21 0 mg.

Citalopram: 09/14+15: 2 mg

 

Tavor: in hospital for 4 weeks, 2 mg stopped 08/03/21. 

Trials with: Dominal 80 mg, Quetiapine up to 100 mg, Promethazine, without success.

Zoplicon: since 05.08.21: 1,5 Tbl. stopped at .15.08.21.

Lorazepam: if necessary, now 2,5 mg at day 09/09 - 13/09: 3 x 0,625, 09/14: 3 x 0,5 ,09/15: 3 x 0,5 + 2,5 for sleeping

 

 

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4 hours ago, Swiffy said:

I am totally confused and i can No more... I cant stay in this horrible Situation for a longer time.

 

How could bei this Akathisia treated?

 

3 Months are enough, i am at my End.

 

I only want to have my life back!!!!!!

 

 

I understand your frustration. I would suggest you try to get yourself together and accept that you are in this situation at this moment.   When you do not accept this and keep saying that you want your life back you will stay in frustration. 

 

You need to get yourself together and then you can come in a state of mind where you can make choices. Talk to good friends, your partner while being quiet within. Stop concentrating on what you have lost at this moment. 

 

Life cannot be controlled. Sh..t happens! 

 

As John Lennon said: "Life is what is happening to you while you are busy making other plans". 

 

This website is full with members who have lost their jobs, partners, friends because of the situation they came in without wanting this.  Members who cannot be there for their children the way they want. Members who are heavily disabled in several ways. 

 

You are not the only one who is suffering. But crying out about it will not help. You can also look for a good therapist to share your pain and frustration with. Acceptance and Commitment Therapy might be a direction. Or Mindfulness mediation.

 

Concentrate on what helps your healing! 

 

It will not help screaming that you want your life back. I am being very honest that at this moment this is your life. This is where you have to deal with.

 

This may sound hard, but I mean this from my heart! ❤️

1993    Anafranil (Clomipramine) for a few months. Later in 1993 Paxil for a few months 1993- 2006      No medication

2006   Effexor, Cymbalta, some Benzo’s. All for short periods. Later in 2006 Lexapro (escitalopram) 10 mg and shortly after Wellbutrin XR 150mg, against side effects Lexapro 

Since 2006 until end of 2015: Several times on and off Lexapro and Wellbutrin and several slight dosage changes. Mostly taken dosages: 5mg Lexapro and 150mg Wellbutrin

2016  Dosage change Lexapro from 5mg to 2,5 mg. Wellbutrin stayed om 150mg

November 2016 – April 2017 Down from 2,5mg to 0,6mg Lexapro (in steps) without much problems. Wellbutrin down from 150mg to 66mg. Also without much problems.

April 2017 – March 2019       Lexapro 0,6 mg        April 2017 - August 2018       Wellbutrin in small steps down from 66mg in to 37,5 mg . Quite heavy WD after each step.

March 2019 – May 2019 Lexapro down from 0,6 to 0,3mg then Prozac to 0,6 mg switch because severe discontinuation effects (may also have been from Wellbutrin..)    

Wellbutrin down from 37,5mg to 35,3mg 

October 2019        Seroquel 12,5 mg for 4 weeks because of extreme sleeping problems, then weaning off in 2 weeks       Prozac up dosage to 1,2 mg

March 2020     Wellbutrin in 2 steps down from 35,3mg to 33,3mg   Extreme withdrawal affects during 8 months. Stopped tapering Wellbutrin  until total off Prozac. February 2020 – November 2020   Prozac down in steps from 1,2mg to 0,57mg. 

Jan 2021 Prozac down to:  0,55> 0,53>0,51mg,   Feb 0,47mg ,  Mar 0,42mg,   Apr 0,37, longer hold because of WD symptoms July 0,36 and hold again

 

Supplements: Fish Oil (3000mg), Magnesium 100 mg, 2 drops of Lavender Oil when feeling anxiety. 50mg of L-Theanine when severe discontinuation effects caused by Wellbutrin

 

Please note this is NOT a medical advice. Discuss all your medical issues with a doctor who understands psychical drugs and really knows how to withdraw from them. I wish that you will find one.

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Hey,

 

i dont know If Somebody can feel what i feel.

 

24 h at day only running around and then the Same in the night...

 

In a House that you loved all the time and now you are scared of them.

 

Thats not my Life 😭

 

Yesterday i took 5 mg Mirtazapin and today it is stronger pressure than bevore.

 

I think IT have to go higher with the Dosis...

 

Thanks for your words, but ist dont helps me at the moment... 😞

 

 

Greetings

2012 -7/ 2013: paroxetine. 

Fluoxetine: 8 /2013 - 10/2020: 10 mg cold turkey, 12/2020 - 4/2021: 0.5 mg 4-2021 - 0.34 mg 5-2021 : 0.26 mg 05/15/21 : 0.34 mg (crash) 05/30/0 mg Psychiatrie 02 + 03/08/21: 2.5 mg (Bad idea!!!!) 21/09/16: 1 mg

Mirtazapine: 05/30/21 - dato: (tingling all over the body, nightmares, does not help with falling asleep)05/30 - 06/14:15 mg,06/15 - 06/28:22.5 mg. 06/29 - 07/15 15mg 07/16 - 08/01 - 08/14:11.25 mg,since 08/15:7.5 mg, since 08/25: 5 mg

Sertraline.: 06/29 - 07/07:21 25 mg 07/08 - 07/10:12.5 mg 07/11/21 0 mg.

Citalopram: 09/14+15: 2 mg

 

Tavor: in hospital for 4 weeks, 2 mg stopped 08/03/21. 

Trials with: Dominal 80 mg, Quetiapine up to 100 mg, Promethazine, without success.

Zoplicon: since 05.08.21: 1,5 Tbl. stopped at .15.08.21.

Lorazepam: if necessary, now 2,5 mg at day 09/09 - 13/09: 3 x 0,625, 09/14: 3 x 0,5 ,09/15: 3 x 0,5 + 2,5 for sleeping

 

 

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17 minutes ago, Swiffy said:

I dont know If Somebody can feel what i feel.

I am sorry that you feel this way. But you have NO IDEA how much suffering is goin on here among the members. Lots of members have experienced or are experiencing what you are right now. And probably often much worse.

 

I also know where you are. I have been there 3 times! 

 

COMPLAINING WILL NOT HELP YOU! 

 

Accept your current situation and set your goals on healing!

 

You cannot expect wonders after 1 dosage change. Stabilizing can take months. It goes in very small steps for most of us. 2 step forward, 1 step back most of the time.

 

This is where you will have to deal with. 

 

I cannot and will not keep saying the same things over and over again. There are many more members here that need assistance.

 

 

1993    Anafranil (Clomipramine) for a few months. Later in 1993 Paxil for a few months 1993- 2006      No medication

2006   Effexor, Cymbalta, some Benzo’s. All for short periods. Later in 2006 Lexapro (escitalopram) 10 mg and shortly after Wellbutrin XR 150mg, against side effects Lexapro 

Since 2006 until end of 2015: Several times on and off Lexapro and Wellbutrin and several slight dosage changes. Mostly taken dosages: 5mg Lexapro and 150mg Wellbutrin

2016  Dosage change Lexapro from 5mg to 2,5 mg. Wellbutrin stayed om 150mg

November 2016 – April 2017 Down from 2,5mg to 0,6mg Lexapro (in steps) without much problems. Wellbutrin down from 150mg to 66mg. Also without much problems.

April 2017 – March 2019       Lexapro 0,6 mg        April 2017 - August 2018       Wellbutrin in small steps down from 66mg in to 37,5 mg . Quite heavy WD after each step.

March 2019 – May 2019 Lexapro down from 0,6 to 0,3mg then Prozac to 0,6 mg switch because severe discontinuation effects (may also have been from Wellbutrin..)    

Wellbutrin down from 37,5mg to 35,3mg 

October 2019        Seroquel 12,5 mg for 4 weeks because of extreme sleeping problems, then weaning off in 2 weeks       Prozac up dosage to 1,2 mg

March 2020     Wellbutrin in 2 steps down from 35,3mg to 33,3mg   Extreme withdrawal affects during 8 months. Stopped tapering Wellbutrin  until total off Prozac. February 2020 – November 2020   Prozac down in steps from 1,2mg to 0,57mg. 

Jan 2021 Prozac down to:  0,55> 0,53>0,51mg,   Feb 0,47mg ,  Mar 0,42mg,   Apr 0,37, longer hold because of WD symptoms July 0,36 and hold again

 

Supplements: Fish Oil (3000mg), Magnesium 100 mg, 2 drops of Lavender Oil when feeling anxiety. 50mg of L-Theanine when severe discontinuation effects caused by Wellbutrin

 

Please note this is NOT a medical advice. Discuss all your medical issues with a doctor who understands psychical drugs and really knows how to withdraw from them. I wish that you will find one.

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Hi,

 

you dont have to say always the Same...

 

 

How long do you was in this Situation? Do you was sleepless or had you a medi for sleeping?

 

Greetings

2012 -7/ 2013: paroxetine. 

Fluoxetine: 8 /2013 - 10/2020: 10 mg cold turkey, 12/2020 - 4/2021: 0.5 mg 4-2021 - 0.34 mg 5-2021 : 0.26 mg 05/15/21 : 0.34 mg (crash) 05/30/0 mg Psychiatrie 02 + 03/08/21: 2.5 mg (Bad idea!!!!) 21/09/16: 1 mg

Mirtazapine: 05/30/21 - dato: (tingling all over the body, nightmares, does not help with falling asleep)05/30 - 06/14:15 mg,06/15 - 06/28:22.5 mg. 06/29 - 07/15 15mg 07/16 - 08/01 - 08/14:11.25 mg,since 08/15:7.5 mg, since 08/25: 5 mg

Sertraline.: 06/29 - 07/07:21 25 mg 07/08 - 07/10:12.5 mg 07/11/21 0 mg.

Citalopram: 09/14+15: 2 mg

 

Tavor: in hospital for 4 weeks, 2 mg stopped 08/03/21. 

Trials with: Dominal 80 mg, Quetiapine up to 100 mg, Promethazine, without success.

Zoplicon: since 05.08.21: 1,5 Tbl. stopped at .15.08.21.

Lorazepam: if necessary, now 2,5 mg at day 09/09 - 13/09: 3 x 0,625, 09/14: 3 x 0,5 ,09/15: 3 x 0,5 + 2,5 for sleeping

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Swiffy said:

How long do you was in this Situation? Do you was sleepless or had you a medi for sleeping?

I had it 4 times, I realize now. The first 2 times doctors convinced me to take the meds again. They said it was  relapse. Unfortunately I had not found this website by then.

 

I believed the doctors. Big mistake! I made it only worse by starting again. I did not get stable for more than a half year and every attempt to go down became more difficult.

 

Also sleep medication was given. Nothing helped. Just made things worse!

 

The 3rd time the doctors gave me a low dose (12mg)  of quetiapine. It helped me a bit to sleep, but it was hell how I felt on it and I had to taper it carefully (with lots of WD symptoms) after only 4 weeks of use.

 

4th time I accepted what was happening and I knew it would heal when I would stabilize and have patience, faith and trust.

1993    Anafranil (Clomipramine) for a few months. Later in 1993 Paxil for a few months 1993- 2006      No medication

2006   Effexor, Cymbalta, some Benzo’s. All for short periods. Later in 2006 Lexapro (escitalopram) 10 mg and shortly after Wellbutrin XR 150mg, against side effects Lexapro 

Since 2006 until end of 2015: Several times on and off Lexapro and Wellbutrin and several slight dosage changes. Mostly taken dosages: 5mg Lexapro and 150mg Wellbutrin

2016  Dosage change Lexapro from 5mg to 2,5 mg. Wellbutrin stayed om 150mg

November 2016 – April 2017 Down from 2,5mg to 0,6mg Lexapro (in steps) without much problems. Wellbutrin down from 150mg to 66mg. Also without much problems.

April 2017 – March 2019       Lexapro 0,6 mg        April 2017 - August 2018       Wellbutrin in small steps down from 66mg in to 37,5 mg . Quite heavy WD after each step.

March 2019 – May 2019 Lexapro down from 0,6 to 0,3mg then Prozac to 0,6 mg switch because severe discontinuation effects (may also have been from Wellbutrin..)    

Wellbutrin down from 37,5mg to 35,3mg 

October 2019        Seroquel 12,5 mg for 4 weeks because of extreme sleeping problems, then weaning off in 2 weeks       Prozac up dosage to 1,2 mg

March 2020     Wellbutrin in 2 steps down from 35,3mg to 33,3mg   Extreme withdrawal affects during 8 months. Stopped tapering Wellbutrin  until total off Prozac. February 2020 – November 2020   Prozac down in steps from 1,2mg to 0,57mg. 

Jan 2021 Prozac down to:  0,55> 0,53>0,51mg,   Feb 0,47mg ,  Mar 0,42mg,   Apr 0,37, longer hold because of WD symptoms July 0,36 and hold again

 

Supplements: Fish Oil (3000mg), Magnesium 100 mg, 2 drops of Lavender Oil when feeling anxiety. 50mg of L-Theanine when severe discontinuation effects caused by Wellbutrin

 

Please note this is NOT a medical advice. Discuss all your medical issues with a doctor who understands psychical drugs and really knows how to withdraw from them. I wish that you will find one.

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Hi,

can you go to Work? 

 

Im getting crazy at Home and i tryed to Work.  But ist was horrible.

 

Working functions but im totally depersonalisized and i feel nothing.

 

Before i loved it so much!!!!

 

 

Greetings

2012 -7/ 2013: paroxetine. 

Fluoxetine: 8 /2013 - 10/2020: 10 mg cold turkey, 12/2020 - 4/2021: 0.5 mg 4-2021 - 0.34 mg 5-2021 : 0.26 mg 05/15/21 : 0.34 mg (crash) 05/30/0 mg Psychiatrie 02 + 03/08/21: 2.5 mg (Bad idea!!!!) 21/09/16: 1 mg

Mirtazapine: 05/30/21 - dato: (tingling all over the body, nightmares, does not help with falling asleep)05/30 - 06/14:15 mg,06/15 - 06/28:22.5 mg. 06/29 - 07/15 15mg 07/16 - 08/01 - 08/14:11.25 mg,since 08/15:7.5 mg, since 08/25: 5 mg

Sertraline.: 06/29 - 07/07:21 25 mg 07/08 - 07/10:12.5 mg 07/11/21 0 mg.

Citalopram: 09/14+15: 2 mg

 

Tavor: in hospital for 4 weeks, 2 mg stopped 08/03/21. 

Trials with: Dominal 80 mg, Quetiapine up to 100 mg, Promethazine, without success.

Zoplicon: since 05.08.21: 1,5 Tbl. stopped at .15.08.21.

Lorazepam: if necessary, now 2,5 mg at day 09/09 - 13/09: 3 x 0,625, 09/14: 3 x 0,5 ,09/15: 3 x 0,5 + 2,5 for sleeping

 

 

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... i have a Question to Mirtazapin: would IT be clever to change the dosis at the moment (5 mg)

 

Greetings

 

 

2012 -7/ 2013: paroxetine. 

Fluoxetine: 8 /2013 - 10/2020: 10 mg cold turkey, 12/2020 - 4/2021: 0.5 mg 4-2021 - 0.34 mg 5-2021 : 0.26 mg 05/15/21 : 0.34 mg (crash) 05/30/0 mg Psychiatrie 02 + 03/08/21: 2.5 mg (Bad idea!!!!) 21/09/16: 1 mg

Mirtazapine: 05/30/21 - dato: (tingling all over the body, nightmares, does not help with falling asleep)05/30 - 06/14:15 mg,06/15 - 06/28:22.5 mg. 06/29 - 07/15 15mg 07/16 - 08/01 - 08/14:11.25 mg,since 08/15:7.5 mg, since 08/25: 5 mg

Sertraline.: 06/29 - 07/07:21 25 mg 07/08 - 07/10:12.5 mg 07/11/21 0 mg.

Citalopram: 09/14+15: 2 mg

 

Tavor: in hospital for 4 weeks, 2 mg stopped 08/03/21. 

Trials with: Dominal 80 mg, Quetiapine up to 100 mg, Promethazine, without success.

Zoplicon: since 05.08.21: 1,5 Tbl. stopped at .15.08.21.

Lorazepam: if necessary, now 2,5 mg at day 09/09 - 13/09: 3 x 0,625, 09/14: 3 x 0,5 ,09/15: 3 x 0,5 + 2,5 for sleeping

 

 

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1 hour ago, Swiffy said:

Working functions but im totally depersonalisized and i feel nothing.

 

Before i loved it so much!!!!

This is seen very often during withdrawal. I could not work at all when I was suffering heavy WD.

 

1 hour ago, Swiffy said:

... i have a Question to Mirtazapin: would IT be clever to change the dosis at the moment (5 mg)

 

What do you mean? I thought you started taking 5 mg 2 days ago? Do you think about going up or down and why?

 

How has your sleep been last 2 days?

1993    Anafranil (Clomipramine) for a few months. Later in 1993 Paxil for a few months 1993- 2006      No medication

2006   Effexor, Cymbalta, some Benzo’s. All for short periods. Later in 2006 Lexapro (escitalopram) 10 mg and shortly after Wellbutrin XR 150mg, against side effects Lexapro 

Since 2006 until end of 2015: Several times on and off Lexapro and Wellbutrin and several slight dosage changes. Mostly taken dosages: 5mg Lexapro and 150mg Wellbutrin

2016  Dosage change Lexapro from 5mg to 2,5 mg. Wellbutrin stayed om 150mg

November 2016 – April 2017 Down from 2,5mg to 0,6mg Lexapro (in steps) without much problems. Wellbutrin down from 150mg to 66mg. Also without much problems.

April 2017 – March 2019       Lexapro 0,6 mg        April 2017 - August 2018       Wellbutrin in small steps down from 66mg in to 37,5 mg . Quite heavy WD after each step.

March 2019 – May 2019 Lexapro down from 0,6 to 0,3mg then Prozac to 0,6 mg switch because severe discontinuation effects (may also have been from Wellbutrin..)    

Wellbutrin down from 37,5mg to 35,3mg 

October 2019        Seroquel 12,5 mg for 4 weeks because of extreme sleeping problems, then weaning off in 2 weeks       Prozac up dosage to 1,2 mg

March 2020     Wellbutrin in 2 steps down from 35,3mg to 33,3mg   Extreme withdrawal affects during 8 months. Stopped tapering Wellbutrin  until total off Prozac. February 2020 – November 2020   Prozac down in steps from 1,2mg to 0,57mg. 

Jan 2021 Prozac down to:  0,55> 0,53>0,51mg,   Feb 0,47mg ,  Mar 0,42mg,   Apr 0,37, longer hold because of WD symptoms July 0,36 and hold again

 

Supplements: Fish Oil (3000mg), Magnesium 100 mg, 2 drops of Lavender Oil when feeling anxiety. 50mg of L-Theanine when severe discontinuation effects caused by Wellbutrin

 

Please note this is NOT a medical advice. Discuss all your medical issues with a doctor who understands psychical drugs and really knows how to withdraw from them. I wish that you will find one.

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Hello, 

 

no i dont changes the Dosis because i was too afraid to make more trouble.

 

Therefore i hast to change to Water solution but i dont know If its good to so that now....

 

Greetings

2012 -7/ 2013: paroxetine. 

Fluoxetine: 8 /2013 - 10/2020: 10 mg cold turkey, 12/2020 - 4/2021: 0.5 mg 4-2021 - 0.34 mg 5-2021 : 0.26 mg 05/15/21 : 0.34 mg (crash) 05/30/0 mg Psychiatrie 02 + 03/08/21: 2.5 mg (Bad idea!!!!) 21/09/16: 1 mg

Mirtazapine: 05/30/21 - dato: (tingling all over the body, nightmares, does not help with falling asleep)05/30 - 06/14:15 mg,06/15 - 06/28:22.5 mg. 06/29 - 07/15 15mg 07/16 - 08/01 - 08/14:11.25 mg,since 08/15:7.5 mg, since 08/25: 5 mg

Sertraline.: 06/29 - 07/07:21 25 mg 07/08 - 07/10:12.5 mg 07/11/21 0 mg.

Citalopram: 09/14+15: 2 mg

 

Tavor: in hospital for 4 weeks, 2 mg stopped 08/03/21. 

Trials with: Dominal 80 mg, Quetiapine up to 100 mg, Promethazine, without success.

Zoplicon: since 05.08.21: 1,5 Tbl. stopped at .15.08.21.

Lorazepam: if necessary, now 2,5 mg at day 09/09 - 13/09: 3 x 0,625, 09/14: 3 x 0,5 ,09/15: 3 x 0,5 + 2,5 for sleeping

 

 

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... how long was your heavy WD?

 

Greetings

2012 -7/ 2013: paroxetine. 

Fluoxetine: 8 /2013 - 10/2020: 10 mg cold turkey, 12/2020 - 4/2021: 0.5 mg 4-2021 - 0.34 mg 5-2021 : 0.26 mg 05/15/21 : 0.34 mg (crash) 05/30/0 mg Psychiatrie 02 + 03/08/21: 2.5 mg (Bad idea!!!!) 21/09/16: 1 mg

Mirtazapine: 05/30/21 - dato: (tingling all over the body, nightmares, does not help with falling asleep)05/30 - 06/14:15 mg,06/15 - 06/28:22.5 mg. 06/29 - 07/15 15mg 07/16 - 08/01 - 08/14:11.25 mg,since 08/15:7.5 mg, since 08/25: 5 mg

Sertraline.: 06/29 - 07/07:21 25 mg 07/08 - 07/10:12.5 mg 07/11/21 0 mg.

Citalopram: 09/14+15: 2 mg

 

Tavor: in hospital for 4 weeks, 2 mg stopped 08/03/21. 

Trials with: Dominal 80 mg, Quetiapine up to 100 mg, Promethazine, without success.

Zoplicon: since 05.08.21: 1,5 Tbl. stopped at .15.08.21.

Lorazepam: if necessary, now 2,5 mg at day 09/09 - 13/09: 3 x 0,625, 09/14: 3 x 0,5 ,09/15: 3 x 0,5 + 2,5 for sleeping

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Swiffy said:

... how long was your heavy WD?

Many months..... But is says nothing, because we all react different..... Can be longer or shorter.

 

How is your sleep last 2 days. Is there (even the slightest) improvement?

1993    Anafranil (Clomipramine) for a few months. Later in 1993 Paxil for a few months 1993- 2006      No medication

2006   Effexor, Cymbalta, some Benzo’s. All for short periods. Later in 2006 Lexapro (escitalopram) 10 mg and shortly after Wellbutrin XR 150mg, against side effects Lexapro 

Since 2006 until end of 2015: Several times on and off Lexapro and Wellbutrin and several slight dosage changes. Mostly taken dosages: 5mg Lexapro and 150mg Wellbutrin

2016  Dosage change Lexapro from 5mg to 2,5 mg. Wellbutrin stayed om 150mg

November 2016 – April 2017 Down from 2,5mg to 0,6mg Lexapro (in steps) without much problems. Wellbutrin down from 150mg to 66mg. Also without much problems.

April 2017 – March 2019       Lexapro 0,6 mg        April 2017 - August 2018       Wellbutrin in small steps down from 66mg in to 37,5 mg . Quite heavy WD after each step.

March 2019 – May 2019 Lexapro down from 0,6 to 0,3mg then Prozac to 0,6 mg switch because severe discontinuation effects (may also have been from Wellbutrin..)    

Wellbutrin down from 37,5mg to 35,3mg 

October 2019        Seroquel 12,5 mg for 4 weeks because of extreme sleeping problems, then weaning off in 2 weeks       Prozac up dosage to 1,2 mg

March 2020     Wellbutrin in 2 steps down from 35,3mg to 33,3mg   Extreme withdrawal affects during 8 months. Stopped tapering Wellbutrin  until total off Prozac. February 2020 – November 2020   Prozac down in steps from 1,2mg to 0,57mg. 

Jan 2021 Prozac down to:  0,55> 0,53>0,51mg,   Feb 0,47mg ,  Mar 0,42mg,   Apr 0,37, longer hold because of WD symptoms July 0,36 and hold again

 

Supplements: Fish Oil (3000mg), Magnesium 100 mg, 2 drops of Lavender Oil when feeling anxiety. 50mg of L-Theanine when severe discontinuation effects caused by Wellbutrin

 

Please note this is NOT a medical advice. Discuss all your medical issues with a doctor who understands psychical drugs and really knows how to withdraw from them. I wish that you will find one.

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Hey,

 

no its Not better with sleeping... I dont sleep... And im so tired but my legs always want to run. Its horrible.

 

 

If i sleep for 30 Minutes i wake up with an extremly anxiety so that i have to stand up and calm me.

 

The dreams are always there und are so disgusting and real

2012 -7/ 2013: paroxetine. 

Fluoxetine: 8 /2013 - 10/2020: 10 mg cold turkey, 12/2020 - 4/2021: 0.5 mg 4-2021 - 0.34 mg 5-2021 : 0.26 mg 05/15/21 : 0.34 mg (crash) 05/30/0 mg Psychiatrie 02 + 03/08/21: 2.5 mg (Bad idea!!!!) 21/09/16: 1 mg

Mirtazapine: 05/30/21 - dato: (tingling all over the body, nightmares, does not help with falling asleep)05/30 - 06/14:15 mg,06/15 - 06/28:22.5 mg. 06/29 - 07/15 15mg 07/16 - 08/01 - 08/14:11.25 mg,since 08/15:7.5 mg, since 08/25: 5 mg

Sertraline.: 06/29 - 07/07:21 25 mg 07/08 - 07/10:12.5 mg 07/11/21 0 mg.

Citalopram: 09/14+15: 2 mg

 

Tavor: in hospital for 4 weeks, 2 mg stopped 08/03/21. 

Trials with: Dominal 80 mg, Quetiapine up to 100 mg, Promethazine, without success.

Zoplicon: since 05.08.21: 1,5 Tbl. stopped at .15.08.21.

Lorazepam: if necessary, now 2,5 mg at day 09/09 - 13/09: 3 x 0,625, 09/14: 3 x 0,5 ,09/15: 3 x 0,5 + 2,5 for sleeping

 

 

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So sorry to read what you are going through. Yes, these seem typical WD symptoms!

 

You can do what we suggested several times before. You can lower the mirtazapine to 5mg. First take it at the time you have been taking it (still 2PM, or already a bit later?). Move it daily later towards the evening and see if you sleep would improve (even a bit).

 

 

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1993    Anafranil (Clomipramine) for a few months. Later in 1993 Paxil for a few months 1993- 2006      No medication

2006   Effexor, Cymbalta, some Benzo’s. All for short periods. Later in 2006 Lexapro (escitalopram) 10 mg and shortly after Wellbutrin XR 150mg, against side effects Lexapro 

Since 2006 until end of 2015: Several times on and off Lexapro and Wellbutrin and several slight dosage changes. Mostly taken dosages: 5mg Lexapro and 150mg Wellbutrin

2016  Dosage change Lexapro from 5mg to 2,5 mg. Wellbutrin stayed om 150mg

November 2016 – April 2017 Down from 2,5mg to 0,6mg Lexapro (in steps) without much problems. Wellbutrin down from 150mg to 66mg. Also without much problems.

April 2017 – March 2019       Lexapro 0,6 mg        April 2017 - August 2018       Wellbutrin in small steps down from 66mg in to 37,5 mg . Quite heavy WD after each step.

March 2019 – May 2019 Lexapro down from 0,6 to 0,3mg then Prozac to 0,6 mg switch because severe discontinuation effects (may also have been from Wellbutrin..)    

Wellbutrin down from 37,5mg to 35,3mg 

October 2019        Seroquel 12,5 mg for 4 weeks because of extreme sleeping problems, then weaning off in 2 weeks       Prozac up dosage to 1,2 mg

March 2020     Wellbutrin in 2 steps down from 35,3mg to 33,3mg   Extreme withdrawal affects during 8 months. Stopped tapering Wellbutrin  until total off Prozac. February 2020 – November 2020   Prozac down in steps from 1,2mg to 0,57mg. 

Jan 2021 Prozac down to:  0,55> 0,53>0,51mg,   Feb 0,47mg ,  Mar 0,42mg,   Apr 0,37, longer hold because of WD symptoms July 0,36 and hold again

 

Supplements: Fish Oil (3000mg), Magnesium 100 mg, 2 drops of Lavender Oil when feeling anxiety. 50mg of L-Theanine when severe discontinuation effects caused by Wellbutrin

 

Please note this is NOT a medical advice. Discuss all your medical issues with a doctor who understands psychical drugs and really knows how to withdraw from them. I wish that you will find one.

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Hi,

 

ok, i will do it.

 

Thanks 👋🏼

2012 -7/ 2013: paroxetine. 

Fluoxetine: 8 /2013 - 10/2020: 10 mg cold turkey, 12/2020 - 4/2021: 0.5 mg 4-2021 - 0.34 mg 5-2021 : 0.26 mg 05/15/21 : 0.34 mg (crash) 05/30/0 mg Psychiatrie 02 + 03/08/21: 2.5 mg (Bad idea!!!!) 21/09/16: 1 mg

Mirtazapine: 05/30/21 - dato: (tingling all over the body, nightmares, does not help with falling asleep)05/30 - 06/14:15 mg,06/15 - 06/28:22.5 mg. 06/29 - 07/15 15mg 07/16 - 08/01 - 08/14:11.25 mg,since 08/15:7.5 mg, since 08/25: 5 mg

Sertraline.: 06/29 - 07/07:21 25 mg 07/08 - 07/10:12.5 mg 07/11/21 0 mg.

Citalopram: 09/14+15: 2 mg

 

Tavor: in hospital for 4 weeks, 2 mg stopped 08/03/21. 

Trials with: Dominal 80 mg, Quetiapine up to 100 mg, Promethazine, without success.

Zoplicon: since 05.08.21: 1,5 Tbl. stopped at .15.08.21.

Lorazepam: if necessary, now 2,5 mg at day 09/09 - 13/09: 3 x 0,625, 09/14: 3 x 0,5 ,09/15: 3 x 0,5 + 2,5 for sleeping

 

 

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Hi,

 

i write you to say that my sleep is Not going better. Im running through the House the whole night, the Akathisia ist getting more.

 

THANkS for your tipp, but  it dont works.

 

Greetings

2012 -7/ 2013: paroxetine. 

Fluoxetine: 8 /2013 - 10/2020: 10 mg cold turkey, 12/2020 - 4/2021: 0.5 mg 4-2021 - 0.34 mg 5-2021 : 0.26 mg 05/15/21 : 0.34 mg (crash) 05/30/0 mg Psychiatrie 02 + 03/08/21: 2.5 mg (Bad idea!!!!) 21/09/16: 1 mg

Mirtazapine: 05/30/21 - dato: (tingling all over the body, nightmares, does not help with falling asleep)05/30 - 06/14:15 mg,06/15 - 06/28:22.5 mg. 06/29 - 07/15