btdt Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I can't believe anyone can stand the smell of pot when they are in withdrawal... so many smell make me dizzy and churn up my gut... pot is one of the worst offenders. I can't tolerate perfume either or cleaners ect... long list. One thing I learned about pot a long time ago ... or heard actually is that there are many different types of pot. If your not getting the same "type" each time you may get unexpected effects. I am not against it but if I were going to use it to treat this if it worked for me... I would do whatever I could to make sure it was the same each time maybe grow my own if I could figure out how to make the same each time... sorry you may have noticed by now I don't know a thing about it...nothing... just hear say. For me being so sensitive to stuff it is a bit mindblowing but we are all different... I took a vitamin once and reacted with 6 wks of anxiety lol it sounds odd to a lot of people and believe me trying to get people not to run the dishwasher or put the air freshener outside when I am there... make me a huge drag so it is not just you. It just freaks me out some that we are all so very different. I do not take any supplement after being burned by a few with bad reactions that took wks to go away. Please be very careful and research everything before you try it. Wishing you peace and healing B WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Petunia Posted December 19, 2014 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted December 19, 2014 My mind sure draws a lot of blanks,is there anything to take to speed up the brain? You are doing so well with your recovery, if I were you I would continue as you are with healthy lifestyle choices like a good diet, exercise, fun activities, let nature take its course and your brain will regain its former functioning without doing any more damage. I'm sure you will continue to keep getting better and better in a windows and waves kind of pattern, thank you for coming back to update Mr. A. I'm not a doctor. My comments are not medical advise. These are my opinions based on my own experience and what I've learned. Please discuss your situation with a medical practitioner who has knowledge of tapering and withdrawal...if you are lucky enough to find one. My Introduction Thread Full Drug and Withdrawal History Brief Summary Several SSRIs for 13 years starting 1997 (for mild to moderate partly situational anxiety) Xanax PRN ~ Various other drugs over the years for side effects 2 month 'taper' off Lexapro 2010 Short acute withdrawal, followed by 2 -3 months of improvement then delayed protracted withdrawal DX ADHD followed by several years of stimulants and other drugs trying to manage increasing symptoms Failed reinstatement of Lexapro and trial of Prozac (became suicidal) May 2013 Found SA, learned about withdrawal, stopped taking drugs...healing begins. Protracted withdrawal, with a very sensitized nervous system, slowly recovering as time passes Supplements which have helped: Vitamin C, Magnesium, Taurine Bad reactions: Many supplements but mostly fish oil and Vitamin D June 2016 - Started daily juicing, mostly vegetables and lots of greens. Aug 2016 - Oct 2016 Best window ever, felt almost completely recovered Oct 2016 -Symptoms returned - bad days and less bad days. April 2018 - No windows, but significant improvement, it feels like permanent full recovery is close. VIDEO: Where did the chemical imbalance theory come from? VIDEO: How are psychiatric diagnoses made? VIDEO: Why do psychiatric drugs have withdrawal syndromes? VIDEO: Can psychiatric drugs cause long-lasting negative effects? VIDEO: Dr. Claire Weekes Link to comment
MrAnxious Posted January 21, 2015 Author Share Posted January 21, 2015 Hello everyone ! Stopping in to report my progress. So far so good. Every time I go down in my buspar I feel the withdrawal real good for about a week and then it goes away. I am safe to say I am out of the storm and have picked up most of the pieces from the storm. I am working full time now as a personal support worker and enjoy it thoroughly. I have a girlfriend and that's going great, my relationships are mending with everybody that I hurt while on the Effexor. I see life in awhole different picture now and that excites me for the future. We go through this for a reason and I recommend all the angry feelings and resentment - just drop it. It is what it is and you must accept that this has changed your life but it did for a reason. Everyone will get better as long as you eat healthy and exercise and stay around good people. If you are missing one of those categories well it will slow your progress down but you will still heal. Take it one day at a time and don't predict the future. Love the people close to you and don't be afraid to admit that you are sick. Life does go on and it will. Soon you will appreciate all the things you did before you were drugged. I have about 2-3mg of buspar that I take daily left and then I am drug free. So i will report back in 2-3months. Feel free to inbox me One love and bless you all, Mr.A 2007-2012started Effexor xr 225mg -150mg- Varied2months of Taper,(March 22/2012 Off Med/in W/D)Currently No medicationMarch 22/2012- August 16/2012 - Totally Off Effexor( Rough Rough time) Reinstatement for a week(didn't work)****** New Doctor******* Very nice/helpful and in touch.Tried Zoloft- No successAUGUST 17/2012- STARTED 37.5 EFFEXOR FOR ONE WEEK - NOT GOOD < STOPPED.Started Buspar Oct 11th 2012----10 mg for the first 7 days and then 15mg a day---- Taking a new route----Racing thoughts - Gone.Oct 9th ( Done Zoloft,wellbutrin week project trial to feel better) - OFFICIALLY OFF ANTI DEPRESSANT !Oct 26 - Raised Buspar to 20mg a day- Tolerating wellJan 2nd 2013- Reduce Buspar until full off march 20th 2015 Off all medication ! Tried natural supplements to no avail Gluten/sugar free since december 2013 Link to comment
LexAnger Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Hi Mr. A, I'm soooo happy for you!!! Thank you for remember everyone here and updating with your great success finally off the meds! You have been a true Worrior and fought bravely and aggressively. You deserve all the happiness that life can offer! All the best, Lexanger Drug free Sep. 23 2017 2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks. 2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg 2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain 2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; 2013 Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg by July. first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain 2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, 2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on 2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks. 2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR 2016 Feb., started dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday 2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg，8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg， 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg 2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, 2/13--0.13mg, 2/20--0.06mg, 3/18--0.13mg, 6/1--0.12mg, 7/6--0.1mg, 7/14--0.08mg, 8/17--0.04mg, 8/20--0.03mg, 8/28--0.02mg, 9/6--0.0205mg, 9/8--0.02mg, 9/17--0.015mg, 9/20--0.01mg, 9/21--0.0048mg, 9/22--0.0001mg, Link to comment
coldturkmama Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Good for you!! great to hear! Paxil 20mg from 1998-2011 Paxil 40mg from 2011-2012 while experiencing poopout October 2013 quit cold turkey Oct-mid Nov 2013 great window Late November WD nightmare Windows and waves pattern Now: 28 months cold turkey...doing decent learning to deal with the windows/waves pattern fighting it every step of the way. Link to comment
btdt Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Happy your doing so well congratulations! WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG Had a car accident in 85 Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89 Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above. One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking. As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/ There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in Link to comment
Lexy Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 You have come along way. I read your thread year and half ago and it scared the hell out of me!!...I was not having the psychological stuff as I've been going through for the last year. Now that you are so much better you are giving me hope for my future. THANKS Started Effexor August 2012 Sept'12-150mg=extreme anxiety Oct'12 cut half-75mg severe wds Feb 2013 68.5mg. Mar'13- 65mg. Apr'13-59mg. May'13-57mg. June '13-52mg Aug'13 49.75mg. Sep'13-48.75. Nov'13-47mg Dec'13-45..5mg May 2014 42mg. Jun'14 40mg (depressive mood started). Aug'14 -40mg/ started brintellix 2.5mg Oct '14 -39 Nov'14 36.89 Dec'14 34.45 Jan 2015- 31 Feb'15 29mg. Mar'15 26.72. Apr'15 24.48. May'15 22.31mg. Jun'15 20.30mg Aug'15-18.89. Oct'15 16.96. Nov/16- 16.10. Dec/15- 15mg Jan 2016-14.22. May'16 11.45. Aug'16-9.60. Sep/16- 8.88mg. Oct/16- 8.39mg. Nov/16- 8.13. Dec/16- 7.89 Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus mammaP Posted January 23, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted January 23, 2015 Glad to see you are doing so well Mr A, working full time too, that is a great achievement. Take care with the last few mgs, it is so tempting to speed up a bit at the end but believe me it is not worth it! **I am not a medical professional, if in doubt please consult a doctor with withdrawal knowledge. Different drugs occasionally (mostly benzos) 1976 - 1981 (no problem) 1993 - 2002 in and out of hospital. every type of drug + ECT. Staring with seroxat 2002 effexor. Tapered March 2012 to March 2013, ending with 5 beads. Withdrawal April 2013 . Reinstated 5 beads reduced to 4 beads May 2013 Restarted taper Nov 2013 OFF EFFEXOR Feb 2015 Tapered atenolol and omeprazole Dec 2013 - May 2014 Tapering tramadol, Feb 2015 100mg , March 2015 50mg July 2017 30mg. May 15 2018 25mg Taking fish oil, magnesium, B12, folic acid, bilberry eyebright for eye pressure. My story http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4199-hello-mammap-checking-in/page-33 Lesson learned, slow down taper at lower doses. Taper no more than 10% of CURRENT dose if possible Link to comment
jen84 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 We go through this for a reason and I recommend all the angry feelings and resentment - just drop it. It is what it is and you must accept that this has changed your life but it did for a reason. Everyone will get better as long as you eat healthy and exercise and stay around good people. If you are missing one of those categories well it will slow your progress down but you will still heal. Take it one day at a time and don't predict the future. Love the people close to you and don't be afraid to admit that you are sick. Life does go on and it will. Soon you will appreciate all the things you did before you were drugged. I have about 2-3mg of buspar that I take daily left and then I am drug free. So i will report back in 2-3months. Feel free to inbox me One love and bless you all, Mr.A Mr.A! So good to hear from you! I am excited for you and wish you well in the upcoming months in your tapering. I totally agree with you that being around good people is important. I am a quiet person, so I dont get out as much as I should, but I get enough interaction through work. Healthy eating, also important. Same as exercise and fresh air. Not predicting my future is a big struggle for me... I constantly think about the "what if's" and I question all my decisions and future plans... its exhausting. When I am in a window though, all this worry and fret disappears. Its a nice break. -jan14 2016- off effexor!!- wellbutrin:Jan 25/17;Start to split 100mg in half -Feb 12/17;100-50mg -Apr 30/17;50-30mg liquid. -June 6/ 17;30-20mg -July6/17;updose to 26mg -Oct 18/17;13 to 12mg -Nov 24/17;12 to 11mg -Feb 21/18;22 to 20mg -Apr 2/18;20 to 18mg -Apr 30/18;18 to 16mg -May 22/18;16 to 14mg -June 18/18;14 to 12.4mg -July 15 /18;12.4 to 11.6mg -Nov5/18;11.2 to 10mg -Dec14/18;10 to 10.4mg Link to comment
MrAnxious Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 Thanks everyone ! Your support has been amazing. Last night I had my first full 5 hour uninterupted sleep in awhile. It felt amazing. I have 1 mg of buspar left to go and I am super excited. The journey will be coming to a end very soon ! I hope to become a success story and believe I already am. It gets better everyone it truly does. Just make sure you surround yourself with awesome people. That makes all the difference in the world. You will all get better if you better yourself through the journey and push yourself. Don't stay stagnant even if its uncomfortable. Big pharma can kiss my ##@!!! Never will I take a drug that alters my state of mind. Things are very clear now and I feel 90% ! Still have residual WD but nothing that matters. I hope all of you are doing well and don't hesitate to ask me any questions !I'll update soon ! 2007-2012started Effexor xr 225mg -150mg- Varied2months of Taper,(March 22/2012 Off Med/in W/D)Currently No medicationMarch 22/2012- August 16/2012 - Totally Off Effexor( Rough Rough time) Reinstatement for a week(didn't work)****** New Doctor******* Very nice/helpful and in touch.Tried Zoloft- No successAUGUST 17/2012- STARTED 37.5 EFFEXOR FOR ONE WEEK - NOT GOOD < STOPPED.Started Buspar Oct 11th 2012----10 mg for the first 7 days and then 15mg a day---- Taking a new route----Racing thoughts - Gone.Oct 9th ( Done Zoloft,wellbutrin week project trial to feel better) - OFFICIALLY OFF ANTI DEPRESSANT !Oct 26 - Raised Buspar to 20mg a day- Tolerating wellJan 2nd 2013- Reduce Buspar until full off march 20th 2015 Off all medication ! Tried natural supplements to no avail Gluten/sugar free since december 2013 Link to comment
LexAnger Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Hi MA, so so happy for you and thank you very much for getting back updating with the inspiring news and encoraging words! We need it so much to keep going through the darkness each day. Drug free Sep. 23 2017 2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks. 2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg 2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain 2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; 2013 Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg by July. first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain 2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, 2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on 2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks. 2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR 2016 Feb., started dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday 2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg，8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg， 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg 2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, 2/13--0.13mg, 2/20--0.06mg, 3/18--0.13mg, 6/1--0.12mg, 7/6--0.1mg, 7/14--0.08mg, 8/17--0.04mg, 8/20--0.03mg, 8/28--0.02mg, 9/6--0.0205mg, 9/8--0.02mg, 9/17--0.015mg, 9/20--0.01mg, 9/21--0.0048mg, 9/22--0.0001mg, Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted February 23, 2015 Administrator Share Posted February 23, 2015 Very happy to hear you're doing better. I added our cheerful "here comes the sun" symbol ☼ to the title of your Intro topic, to show you're recovering. Please continue to let us know how you're doing. I hope you will add your story to our Recovery Success Stories eventually! This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
MrAnxious Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 Thank you so much. 1mg of Buspar is almost complete. Very soon I will be fully off all psychotropics ))) it can be done, comes down to your want, your need and your power ! Everyone can do it if I can do it. 1 more week ))) Maybe another new job and a move coming ! Will keep you updated 2007-2012started Effexor xr 225mg -150mg- Varied2months of Taper,(March 22/2012 Off Med/in W/D)Currently No medicationMarch 22/2012- August 16/2012 - Totally Off Effexor( Rough Rough time) Reinstatement for a week(didn't work)****** New Doctor******* Very nice/helpful and in touch.Tried Zoloft- No successAUGUST 17/2012- STARTED 37.5 EFFEXOR FOR ONE WEEK - NOT GOOD < STOPPED.Started Buspar Oct 11th 2012----10 mg for the first 7 days and then 15mg a day---- Taking a new route----Racing thoughts - Gone.Oct 9th ( Done Zoloft,wellbutrin week project trial to feel better) - OFFICIALLY OFF ANTI DEPRESSANT !Oct 26 - Raised Buspar to 20mg a day- Tolerating wellJan 2nd 2013- Reduce Buspar until full off march 20th 2015 Off all medication ! Tried natural supplements to no avail Gluten/sugar free since december 2013 Link to comment
Lexy Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Wow!!!so glad to hear all your good news. Started Effexor August 2012 Sept'12-150mg=extreme anxiety Oct'12 cut half-75mg severe wds Feb 2013 68.5mg. Mar'13- 65mg. Apr'13-59mg. May'13-57mg. June '13-52mg Aug'13 49.75mg. Sep'13-48.75. Nov'13-47mg Dec'13-45..5mg May 2014 42mg. Jun'14 40mg (depressive mood started). Aug'14 -40mg/ started brintellix 2.5mg Oct '14 -39 Nov'14 36.89 Dec'14 34.45 Jan 2015- 31 Feb'15 29mg. Mar'15 26.72. Apr'15 24.48. May'15 22.31mg. Jun'15 20.30mg Aug'15-18.89. Oct'15 16.96. Nov/16- 16.10. Dec/15- 15mg Jan 2016-14.22. May'16 11.45. Aug'16-9.60. Sep/16- 8.88mg. Oct/16- 8.39mg. Nov/16- 8.13. Dec/16- 7.89 Link to comment
MrAnxious Posted March 3, 2015 Author Share Posted March 3, 2015 Thanks Lexi 2007-2012started Effexor xr 225mg -150mg- Varied2months of Taper,(March 22/2012 Off Med/in W/D)Currently No medicationMarch 22/2012- August 16/2012 - Totally Off Effexor( Rough Rough time) Reinstatement for a week(didn't work)****** New Doctor******* Very nice/helpful and in touch.Tried Zoloft- No successAUGUST 17/2012- STARTED 37.5 EFFEXOR FOR ONE WEEK - NOT GOOD < STOPPED.Started Buspar Oct 11th 2012----10 mg for the first 7 days and then 15mg a day---- Taking a new route----Racing thoughts - Gone.Oct 9th ( Done Zoloft,wellbutrin week project trial to feel better) - OFFICIALLY OFF ANTI DEPRESSANT !Oct 26 - Raised Buspar to 20mg a day- Tolerating wellJan 2nd 2013- Reduce Buspar until full off march 20th 2015 Off all medication ! Tried natural supplements to no avail Gluten/sugar free since december 2013 Link to comment
MrAnxious Posted March 14, 2015 Author Share Posted March 14, 2015 Update ! Its been 3 years since my last dose of effexor, hard to believe. Time really doesnfly ,even when you are not having fun. Soooo I am finally off my last mg of buspar and I am Drug free ?!!!! It took 1 and half year when I started to wean off buspar. DRUG FREE after 7 years. From start to finish and what a ride. OK update. Let's get serious as I am not out of the woods yet. So basically I quit my job as a personal support worker 3 days ago. Been there for a year and 4 months. Challenging at times but not really. Now I am moving 2 hours away from my family that was my rock and moving up to my gf. I just go two jobs working with special needs behavioral people. I am scared s$#tless. My anxiety is now ramped up and I am thinking about every possible way I can and will fail Fear fear fear. I am so worried this is gonna reverse everything I have accomplished. Where is my confidence?the spasms are more intense because the stress. Is this a good move for me? A lot of people say yes but why don't I feel it is. Maybe because I want to be comfortable. Also I will have to work the odd midnight shift. Just getting over sleep apnea somewhat. Could i get some feedback please - struggling Mr.A 2007-2012started Effexor xr 225mg -150mg- Varied2months of Taper,(March 22/2012 Off Med/in W/D)Currently No medicationMarch 22/2012- August 16/2012 - Totally Off Effexor( Rough Rough time) Reinstatement for a week(didn't work)****** New Doctor******* Very nice/helpful and in touch.Tried Zoloft- No successAUGUST 17/2012- STARTED 37.5 EFFEXOR FOR ONE WEEK - NOT GOOD < STOPPED.Started Buspar Oct 11th 2012----10 mg for the first 7 days and then 15mg a day---- Taking a new route----Racing thoughts - Gone.Oct 9th ( Done Zoloft,wellbutrin week project trial to feel better) - OFFICIALLY OFF ANTI DEPRESSANT !Oct 26 - Raised Buspar to 20mg a day- Tolerating wellJan 2nd 2013- Reduce Buspar until full off march 20th 2015 Off all medication ! Tried natural supplements to no avail Gluten/sugar free since december 2013 Link to comment
Prestorb Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Hi Mr. A, so happy to read about your success, it is very encouraging. Congratulations to you! Moves are very anxiety provoking so it's perfectly normal that you are stressed. Maybe you could just ask yourself what the worst possible outcome would be? If it is something that you can handle, which I am sure it is given what you have already been through, then what is the harm in giving this a try? I would just expect it to be a bit rocky for a few months, change is hard and I think it might be even tougher for those of us sensitized by these terrible drugs. I wish you all the best in your new life! Cheers 2005-2009, Lexapro 10 - 20 mg, CT WD w/severe depression and anxiety: 2010-2015, Paxil, 30 - 40 mg, tapered off at 10 mg/week, moderate anxiety and depression: 2010-2015, Clonozapam 0.25 mg, as needed for anxiety and sleep: 1/10/2015, Zoloft 25 mg, tried to increase to 50 and 75, but nausea and dizziness: 2/13/2015, Paxil 5 mg, added back after 2 weeks at zero to reduce WD: 2/28/2015, Paxil 10 mg, increased from 5 mg to reduce WD, HOLDING: 3/04/2015, Zoloft discontinued (reduced to ~12.5 mg on 2/19, ~6.25 mg on 2/26, then zero): 4/26/2015, Paxil starting 10% taper (no scale so was inadvertently at 20% taper, yikes!): 4/30/2015, Paxil 10 mg, reinstated (WD disappeared between August 2015 and May 2016) 5/02/2016, Started 10% taper, reinstated to 10 mg on 5/11/16: 4/29/2017, Last dose of Paxil (working with holistic psychiatrist, lots of supplements to aid WD): Primary symptoms: apathy, demotivation, anhedonia, fatigue, stress intolerance, moderate social anxiety 7/1/2018 Finally feeling like myself again, success!!! Praise God! Even with the stress of relocating recently, I am feeling pretty good most of the time now. Granted, I eat healthy, I exercise, I don't drink caffeine or alcohol and I try hard find a healthy balance of quiet and social times. Hang in there and keep the faith, you can do it too! Link to comment
LexAnger Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Sorry you are still struggling after all the great achievement! If I were you, and if there is any way I Do NOT have to take this job, I wont move toward it. Even it's true it's just thoughts of your stressed mind, the night shift is too tough for anyone just off the meds completely. After going through the long torture healing process, we know nothing matters without the whole health ESP. In this area. Of course you know the best, and I understand most times we have to take certain level of risk. Drug free Sep. 23 2017 2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks. 2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg 2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain 2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; 2013 Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg by July. first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain 2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, 2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on 2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks. 2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR 2016 Feb., started dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday 2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg，8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg， 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg 2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, 2/13--0.13mg, 2/20--0.06mg, 3/18--0.13mg, 6/1--0.12mg, 7/6--0.1mg, 7/14--0.08mg, 8/17--0.04mg, 8/20--0.03mg, 8/28--0.02mg, 9/6--0.0205mg, 9/8--0.02mg, 9/17--0.015mg, 9/20--0.01mg, 9/21--0.0048mg, 9/22--0.0001mg, Link to comment
MrAnxious Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 Thank you for your replies. So I tried the job and it was too much for me. A very stressful environment. So I stuck out the day and now I am jobless. I really struggle with what kind of job I should do. I am 32 yes old. I work great with people and my last job doing home care was great but I also am 6'4 and I bent over a lot , it was really starting to hurt my back. I never had all these problems before the drug. But I can't blame it onthat. I worry about my future and not having a job that will build it up for me. I am great working with people but don't know where to take that. 2 weeks off buspar and off all meds now, and I had the worst sleep ever last night. Not sure if it's the apnea which it probably is, because of my weight gain I have to lose 5-10lbs still to get a more restful sleep. I always thought it was the effexor WD causing my insomnia which a part was, but if you snore people at night,get checked because it can be apnea. *on a latter note. You see the airplane guy Aaron lubswitz that pilot that crashed that plane. It is saying he was on anti depressant and anti phychotic. I bet you a million and 5 dollars that it will be all covered up. So can somebody raise a stink ! We need this to come to light !! Maybe this will be what makes it Love you all. Mr.A 2007-2012started Effexor xr 225mg -150mg- Varied2months of Taper,(March 22/2012 Off Med/in W/D)Currently No medicationMarch 22/2012- August 16/2012 - Totally Off Effexor( Rough Rough time) Reinstatement for a week(didn't work)****** New Doctor******* Very nice/helpful and in touch.Tried Zoloft- No successAUGUST 17/2012- STARTED 37.5 EFFEXOR FOR ONE WEEK - NOT GOOD < STOPPED.Started Buspar Oct 11th 2012----10 mg for the first 7 days and then 15mg a day---- Taking a new route----Racing thoughts - Gone.Oct 9th ( Done Zoloft,wellbutrin week project trial to feel better) - OFFICIALLY OFF ANTI DEPRESSANT !Oct 26 - Raised Buspar to 20mg a day- Tolerating wellJan 2nd 2013- Reduce Buspar until full off march 20th 2015 Off all medication ! Tried natural supplements to no avail Gluten/sugar free since december 2013 Link to comment
LexAnger Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Hi MrA, Glad to hear you! First congrat to your complete freedom from all psych drugs! What an achievement! I'm sorry the job didn't work out. My two cents on the back problem. I have my L3 dislocated many years ago, the pain comes and goese usually not a big issue as it never lasted longer than couple weeks and always had a trigger like from lifting heavy stuff. This time during the mess from the WD, the pain started without any trigger and lasted 4 months till today and still ongoing. What I feel is that the drug (change of it) affects the entire nerve system including the spine and can cause all sorts of issues. This, as all other med reduced problems should go away eventually after we recover completely. What it can be a very serious issue is the spine injury by improper posture like you mentioned you bend a lot. I suggest you to first have an exam to rule out the spine issue then consult a chiropractor for daily proper self care. Drug free Sep. 23 2017 2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks. 2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg 2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain 2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; 2013 Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg by July. first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain 2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, 2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on 2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks. 2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR 2016 Feb., started dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday 2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg，8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg， 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg 2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, 2/13--0.13mg, 2/20--0.06mg, 3/18--0.13mg, 6/1--0.12mg, 7/6--0.1mg, 7/14--0.08mg, 8/17--0.04mg, 8/20--0.03mg, 8/28--0.02mg, 9/6--0.0205mg, 9/8--0.02mg, 9/17--0.015mg, 9/20--0.01mg, 9/21--0.0048mg, 9/22--0.0001mg, Link to comment
MrAnxious Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share Posted April 7, 2015 Hi MrA, Glad to hear you! First congrat to your complete freedom from all psych drugs! What an achievement! I'm sorry the job didn't work out. My two cents on the back problem. I have my L3 dislocated many years ago, the pain comes and goese usually not a big issue as it never lasted longer than couple weeks and always had a trigger like from lifting heavy stuff. This time during the mess from the WD, the pain started without any trigger and lasted 4 months till today and still ongoing. What I feel is that the drug (change of it) affects the entire nerve system including the spine and can cause all sorts of issues. This, as all other med reduced problems should go away eventually after we recover completely. What it can be a very serious issue is the spine injury by improper posture like you mentioned you bend a lot. I suggest you to first have an exam to rule out the spine issue then consult a chiropractor for daily proper self care. Thanks a lot Lex. I am def going to check into that. Since I haven't been worming the pain has gone away. I think the fact that I am having sleep apnea right now is because I gained weight. So I am not getting a proper restful sleep.I'll get myself checked out though. 2007-2012started Effexor xr 225mg -150mg- Varied2months of Taper,(March 22/2012 Off Med/in W/D)Currently No medicationMarch 22/2012- August 16/2012 - Totally Off Effexor( Rough Rough time) Reinstatement for a week(didn't work)****** New Doctor******* Very nice/helpful and in touch.Tried Zoloft- No successAUGUST 17/2012- STARTED 37.5 EFFEXOR FOR ONE WEEK - NOT GOOD < STOPPED.Started Buspar Oct 11th 2012----10 mg for the first 7 days and then 15mg a day---- Taking a new route----Racing thoughts - Gone.Oct 9th ( Done Zoloft,wellbutrin week project trial to feel better) - OFFICIALLY OFF ANTI DEPRESSANT !Oct 26 - Raised Buspar to 20mg a day- Tolerating wellJan 2nd 2013- Reduce Buspar until full off march 20th 2015 Off all medication ! Tried natural supplements to no avail Gluten/sugar free since december 2013 Link to comment
MrAnxious Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share Posted April 7, 2015 Update. Now that I am drug free I am experimenting with L-tryptophan. I am on day 3 ,taking (2) a day only 220mg each. 1 in the morning and 1 at night. So far it maybe be placebo but I do feel more calm and less social anxiety. Here is too hope. I think 5 htp was too potent but this precursor seems to be more like a sedative. I believe it will help me produce more serotonin. I think the effexor really screwed up my neurotransmitters. Here is too hope. Since being totally drug free off the buspar I have been feeling a lack of mood and more of a numbness so this is exciting. I will keep y'all updated. Almost 3 weeks total drug free I am a success story but I will wait until I feel super good Love yall 2007-2012started Effexor xr 225mg -150mg- Varied2months of Taper,(March 22/2012 Off Med/in W/D)Currently No medicationMarch 22/2012- August 16/2012 - Totally Off Effexor( Rough Rough time) Reinstatement for a week(didn't work)****** New Doctor******* Very nice/helpful and in touch.Tried Zoloft- No successAUGUST 17/2012- STARTED 37.5 EFFEXOR FOR ONE WEEK - NOT GOOD < STOPPED.Started Buspar Oct 11th 2012----10 mg for the first 7 days and then 15mg a day---- Taking a new route----Racing thoughts - Gone.Oct 9th ( Done Zoloft,wellbutrin week project trial to feel better) - OFFICIALLY OFF ANTI DEPRESSANT !Oct 26 - Raised Buspar to 20mg a day- Tolerating wellJan 2nd 2013- Reduce Buspar until full off march 20th 2015 Off all medication ! Tried natural supplements to no avail Gluten/sugar free since december 2013 Link to comment
MrAnxious Posted April 30, 2015 Author Share Posted April 30, 2015 Update So the trpytophan ended up giving me major anxiety and brought back heavy w/d feelings. I stopped it. I am experimenting with st johns wort now in liquid form. It has been two weeks. Ive heard it takes 4-6 weeks to take full effect. So far in the first couple weeks i have feel a better ability to talk to people. But in the past two days i have felt more anxiety. So its good and bad. I figure thats because its wrking on 3 different neurotransmittors. Since going off the buspar i have felt a heavier brain fog and cognitivily i dont feel too sharp at all. I have taken on two new jobs and move to my gfs parents place. Its almost like i cant grasp the words that i want too. Like i want to have a conversation that flows and it feels like i am acting out what i am gonna say and thinking too hard about what to say next. I wonder if i am going through buspar withdrawal now. Also i almost guarantee i have a leaky gut. Its where you intestinal tract has holes in it so the food leaks into your bloodstream. This has been known to cause depression and anxiety. So i am on a really good probiotic called bio k. Its a liquid and really good. On day 3. Does anyone know how to get that cognitive ability back to semi full or full form? I desperately need this back. March 2012 i came off effexor and march 2015 off buspar. Id love some help 2007-2012started Effexor xr 225mg -150mg- Varied2months of Taper,(March 22/2012 Off Med/in W/D)Currently No medicationMarch 22/2012- August 16/2012 - Totally Off Effexor( Rough Rough time) Reinstatement for a week(didn't work)****** New Doctor******* Very nice/helpful and in touch.Tried Zoloft- No successAUGUST 17/2012- STARTED 37.5 EFFEXOR FOR ONE WEEK - NOT GOOD < STOPPED.Started Buspar Oct 11th 2012----10 mg for the first 7 days and then 15mg a day---- Taking a new route----Racing thoughts - Gone.Oct 9th ( Done Zoloft,wellbutrin week project trial to feel better) - OFFICIALLY OFF ANTI DEPRESSANT !Oct 26 - Raised Buspar to 20mg a day- Tolerating wellJan 2nd 2013- Reduce Buspar until full off march 20th 2015 Off all medication ! Tried natural supplements to no avail Gluten/sugar free since december 2013 Link to comment
LexAnger Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Hi Mranxious, I am so sorry for the continuous struggling as in my mind you were over with the evil after a great fight! I'm still in the woods and experiencing the severe brain nonfunctional, swelling head, face, all over my body and with speech, thinking difficulties. I wonder why you wanted to try other non- drug supplement that can also impact the serotonin? Also, how is your back doing? Would you like to update your signature for the recent changes to help with a quick refresh of your tapering schedule? I wish I could provide some insight but I am still far from the stage you are at and have not much to think of it. I do hope this passes quickly as you have been doing great for a while. LexA Drug free Sep. 23 2017 2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks. 2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg 2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain 2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; 2013 Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg by July. first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain 2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, 2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on 2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks. 2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR 2016 Feb., started dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday 2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg，8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg， 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg 2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, 2/13--0.13mg, 2/20--0.06mg, 3/18--0.13mg, 6/1--0.12mg, 7/6--0.1mg, 7/14--0.08mg, 8/17--0.04mg, 8/20--0.03mg, 8/28--0.02mg, 9/6--0.0205mg, 9/8--0.02mg, 9/17--0.015mg, 9/20--0.01mg, 9/21--0.0048mg, 9/22--0.0001mg, Link to comment
MrAnxious Posted May 11, 2015 Author Share Posted May 11, 2015 Its okay Lex:) i am trying to find something to stimulate my mood because it has become very dull and alot of brain fog lately. I have been trying the liquid organic st johns wort.funny thing is it grew my nails for the first time in my life but its now created a brain fog i believe. I dont understand, why are we so stimulated by anything we take. So i am weaning off the wort now because of after 3 weeks i am experiencing this fog. Long story short i wasnt taking near the recommended dose but it builds up and i believe its built up too much now. Only was taking 10mg out of a suggested 50mg a day. Did some research on l-tyrosine and i am going to take teo capsules a day 500mgx2 so 1000mg a day which is below recommended dose and try a bottle out. I cant stand feeling the intense brain fog that has come back. I was always getting better, so because st johns works as a natural antidepressant i am thinking its acting like withdrawal on me now bringing the brain fog back hard. So i have to wean:((((( i am so tired of trying to get better. Its just suppose to happen isnt it. I was doing well. I think all the stress of moving and 3 new jobs has done something to me. L tyrosine is suppose to give me dopamine and effexor drug depleted my dopamine. Its all a guessing game at this point. I wish there was more people that had more advice on what to do because my mood is so flat almost like depressed. So i am also taking probiotics to work on my gut because i believe i have leaky gut which is affecting my brain. If anyone can be of any help with any good natural supplement that will stimulate my brain that would help me...please 2007-2012started Effexor xr 225mg -150mg- Varied2months of Taper,(March 22/2012 Off Med/in W/D)Currently No medicationMarch 22/2012- August 16/2012 - Totally Off Effexor( Rough Rough time) Reinstatement for a week(didn't work)****** New Doctor******* Very nice/helpful and in touch.Tried Zoloft- No successAUGUST 17/2012- STARTED 37.5 EFFEXOR FOR ONE WEEK - NOT GOOD < STOPPED.Started Buspar Oct 11th 2012----10 mg for the first 7 days and then 15mg a day---- Taking a new route----Racing thoughts - Gone.Oct 9th ( Done Zoloft,wellbutrin week project trial to feel better) - OFFICIALLY OFF ANTI DEPRESSANT !Oct 26 - Raised Buspar to 20mg a day- Tolerating wellJan 2nd 2013- Reduce Buspar until full off march 20th 2015 Off all medication ! Tried natural supplements to no avail Gluten/sugar free since december 2013 Link to comment
nz11 Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Mr A omega 3 may be a better option than stjohns wort. Thought for the day: Lets stand up, and let’s speak out , together. G Olsen We have until the 14th. Feb 2018. URGENT REQUEST Please consider submitting for the petition on Prescribed Drug Dependence and Withdrawal currently awaiting its third consideration at the Scottish Parliament. You don't even have to be from Scotland. By clicking on the link below you can read some of the previous submissions but be warned many of them are quite harrowing. http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/PE01651 Please tell them about your problems taking and withdrawing from antidepressants and/or benzos. Send by email to petitions@parliament.scot and quote PE01651 in the subject heading. Keep to a maximum of 3 sides of A4 and you can't name for legal reasons any doctor you have consulted. Tell them if you wish to remain anonymous. We need the numbers to help convince the committee members we are not isolated cases. You have until mid February. Thank you Recovering paxil addict None of the published articles shed light on what ssri's ... actually do or what their hazards might be. Healy 2013. This is so true, with anything you get on these drugs, dependance, tapering, withdrawal symptoms, side effects, just silent. And if there is something mentioned then their is a serious disconnect between what is said and reality! "Every time I read of a multi-person shooting, I always presume that person had just started a SSRI or had just stopped." Dr Mosher. Me too! Over two decades later, the number of antidepressant prescriptions a year is slightly more than the number of people in the Western world. Most (nine out of 10) prescriptions are for patients who faced difficulties on stopping, equating to about a tenth of the population. These patients are often advised to continue treatment because their difficulties indicate they need ongoing treatment, just as a person with diabetes needs insulin. Healy 2015 I believe the ssri era will soon stand as one of the most shameful in the history of medicine. Healy 2015 Let people help people ... in a natural, kind, non-addictive (and non-big pharma) way. J Broadley 2017 Link to comment
MrAnxious Posted May 12, 2015 Author Share Posted May 12, 2015 Oh yes Omega 3 i have been taking in large doses for years since medicating. The benefits have been extrodainary. I also take something better that contains epa and dha..its seal oil. Official product of Canada and it comtains dpa. Without dpa the epa and dha that is in fish oil doesnt absorb well at all. Seal oil is superior to all fish oil. This brainfog , its come over the past two weeks and i dont like it. Its been about two months since coming off buspar totally. The reason why i went on buspar was because my brain got like this and no one really knows why on here...like i have to reach for words again. Is this from all the stress ive had in the past few months. I have moved away and switched jobs 3 times in the past month. Now i have two good personal support worker jobs but i feel so overhwlemed because of the way i am feeling. Panic when i talk to people because the words arent coming to me and i dont want to look stupid because i want to hold a convo but cant seem too. Anything to wake up or stimulate my brain...it feels liek i smoked a huge joint. Just worried its always going to be like this now. Could this be the buspar withdrawal now? I never felt this coming slowly off the buspar. Could it be that i have reduced the st johns wort because i havent tsken more than 3-4 weeks of it. I am on such a small dose now. I wish somebody could give me some solid advice. Thinking maybe something else is wrong with me now. Anybody that can support me now, i was doing so good ! I tair omega..a multi and 10,000 iu of vitamin d. 2007-2012started Effexor xr 225mg -150mg- Varied2months of Taper,(March 22/2012 Off Med/in W/D)Currently No medicationMarch 22/2012- August 16/2012 - Totally Off Effexor( Rough Rough time) Reinstatement for a week(didn't work)****** New Doctor******* Very nice/helpful and in touch.Tried Zoloft- No successAUGUST 17/2012- STARTED 37.5 EFFEXOR FOR ONE WEEK - NOT GOOD < STOPPED.Started Buspar Oct 11th 2012----10 mg for the first 7 days and then 15mg a day---- Taking a new route----Racing thoughts - Gone.Oct 9th ( Done Zoloft,wellbutrin week project trial to feel better) - OFFICIALLY OFF ANTI DEPRESSANT !Oct 26 - Raised Buspar to 20mg a day- Tolerating wellJan 2nd 2013- Reduce Buspar until full off march 20th 2015 Off all medication ! Tried natural supplements to no avail Gluten/sugar free since december 2013 Link to comment
Meimeiquest Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 You might look into the book Grain Brain by Perlmutter. Hope you can find the solution soon! 1st round Prozac 1989/90, clear depression symptoms. 2nd round Prozac started 1999 when admitted to dr. I was tired. Prozac pooped out, switch to Cymbalta 3/2006. Diagnosed with bipolar disorder due to mania 6/2006--then I was taken abruptly off Cymbalta and didn't know I had SSRI withdrawal. Lots of meds for my intractable "bipolar" symptoms. Zyprexa started about 9/06, mostly 5mg. Tapered 4/12 through12/29/12 Wellbutrin. XL 300 mg started 1/07, tapered 1/18/13 through 7/8/13 Oxazepam mostly continuously since 6/06, 30mg since 12/12, tapered 1.17.14 through 8.26.15 11/06 Lithium 600mg twice daily, 2.2.14 400mg TID DIY liquid, 2.12.14 1150mg, 3.2.14 1100mg, 3.18.14 1075mg, 4/14 updose to 1100mg, 6.1.14 900 mg capsules 7.8.14 810mg, 8.17.14 725mg, 8.24.24 700mg...10.22.14 487.5mg, 3.9.15 475mg, 4.1.15 462.5mg 4.21.15 450mg 8.11.15 375mg, 11.28.15 362.5mg, back to 375mg four days later, 3.4.16 updose to 475 (too much going on to risk trouble) 9/4/13 Toprol-XL 25mg daily for sudden hypertension, tapered 11.12.13 through 5.3.14, last 10 days or so switched to atenolol 7.4.14 Started Walsh Protocol 56 years old Link to comment
MrAnxious Posted May 16, 2015 Author Share Posted May 16, 2015 You might look into the book Grain Brain by Perlmutter. Hope you can find the solution soon! Hey how are you doing. It was definitely the wort that had built up that was causing the reaction. I have since cut it out totally and am free of all supplement and i feel better. Not 100% but definitely more with it. I went to the walk in clinic about the generalized mood and they are getting me another sleep study and tested my blood for thyroid issues and kidney and liver. Other than that i have two jobs that make full time working as a personal support worker and life is as good as i make it. Lets hope i can fix this anxiety issue and put it to rest. Its more a panic when i talk to people because the fog wont release alot of the words i want to use. Hope everyone is well and i will update my signature 2007-2012started Effexor xr 225mg -150mg- Varied2months of Taper,(March 22/2012 Off Med/in W/D)Currently No medicationMarch 22/2012- August 16/2012 - Totally Off Effexor( Rough Rough time) Reinstatement for a week(didn't work)****** New Doctor******* Very nice/helpful and in touch.Tried Zoloft- No successAUGUST 17/2012- STARTED 37.5 EFFEXOR FOR ONE WEEK - NOT GOOD < STOPPED.Started Buspar Oct 11th 2012----10 mg for the first 7 days and then 15mg a day---- Taking a new route----Racing thoughts - Gone.Oct 9th ( Done Zoloft,wellbutrin week project trial to feel better) - OFFICIALLY OFF ANTI DEPRESSANT !Oct 26 - Raised Buspar to 20mg a day- Tolerating wellJan 2nd 2013- Reduce Buspar until full off march 20th 2015 Off all medication ! Tried natural supplements to no avail Gluten/sugar free since december 2013 Link to comment
MrAnxious Posted July 16, 2015 Author Share Posted July 16, 2015 Update ! How have you been doing my fellow survivors. Well I am slowly regaining myself. This has been quite the long road and i would say within the next two years i should be recovered. I am still waiting for my sleep study but it should be around the corner as i am in que for a appointment with the sleep doctor. I am fatigued and mentally drained from my sleep apnea. As for the effexor withdrawal at 39 months out I believe I have kicked it. The Buspar wd is still fresh but all I really get is pulses through my body. As you can see by my lack of posting is that it gets better. Life gets better, but you really have to help and love yourself lots. You have to eat healthy, exercise , cut sugar to reduce imflammation. You should take Krill oil and drink lots of lemon water and decaf green tea. Lots of fruits and veggies and nuts. Have a good family support system and always look at the positive : you made it thus far. Stay alive my friends, it does get better for everyone )) I will be back for responses. Your not alone. Hope everyone is enjoying summer and soaking in the vit d. Get outside 2007-2012started Effexor xr 225mg -150mg- Varied2months of Taper,(March 22/2012 Off Med/in W/D)Currently No medicationMarch 22/2012- August 16/2012 - Totally Off Effexor( Rough Rough time) Reinstatement for a week(didn't work)****** New Doctor******* Very nice/helpful and in touch.Tried Zoloft- No successAUGUST 17/2012- STARTED 37.5 EFFEXOR FOR ONE WEEK - NOT GOOD < STOPPED.Started Buspar Oct 11th 2012----10 mg for the first 7 days and then 15mg a day---- Taking a new route----Racing thoughts - Gone.Oct 9th ( Done Zoloft,wellbutrin week project trial to feel better) - OFFICIALLY OFF ANTI DEPRESSANT !Oct 26 - Raised Buspar to 20mg a day- Tolerating wellJan 2nd 2013- Reduce Buspar until full off march 20th 2015 Off all medication ! Tried natural supplements to no avail Gluten/sugar free since december 2013 Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus peggy Posted July 16, 2015 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted July 16, 2015 Good for you Mr A! You are doing really well, enjoy the summer whilst it lasts!!!! Started in 2000 - On 150mg most of the time, (but up to 225mg at highest dose for 6 months in the beginning)Reduced off easily first time - but got depressed (not too much anxiety) 6 months laterBack on effexor for another 9 months.Reduced off again with no immediate w/d - suddenly got depressed and anxious ++ again 3 or 4 months later.Back on effexor - this time for 3 yearsReduced off over a month - 6 weeks later terrible anxiety - back on.Rinse and repeat 4 more times - each time the period before the anxiety comes back got shorter and shorterJan - July 2012 75mg down to 37.5mg;, 8/3/12 - 35mg. 8/25/12 - 32mg. 9/11- 28mg, 10/2 - 25mg, 10/29 - 22mg, 11/19 - 19.8mg; 12/11 - 17m,1/1- 15.5mg; 1/22 -14mg, 2/7 14.9mg, 2/18 - 17.8mg - crashed big time: back to 75mg where i sat for 2 years.... 4th March 2015 - 67.5mg; 31st March - 60mg; 24th April - 53mg; 13th May - 48mg; 26th May - 45mg; 9th June - 41mg; 1 July- 37.5mg; 20 July - 34mg; 11 August - 31mg; 1st Sept - 28mg; 1st Dec - 25.8mg; 28th Dec - 23.2mg; 23rd Jan-21.9mg; Feb 7th- 21mg; March 1st - 20.1mg, March 30th - 18mg Link to comment
LexAnger Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Glad to hear you and the good news! I'm very happy for you for the well deserved recovery! You had a great fight and winning the battle! Thanks for stopping by, this is very encouraging. Looking forward to hearing more great news from you! Lex Drug free Sep. 23 2017 2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks. 2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg 2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain 2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; 2013 Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg by July. first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain 2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, 2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on 2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks. 2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR 2016 Feb., started dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday 2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg，8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg， 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg 2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, 2/13--0.13mg, 2/20--0.06mg, 3/18--0.13mg, 6/1--0.12mg, 7/6--0.1mg, 7/14--0.08mg, 8/17--0.04mg, 8/20--0.03mg, 8/28--0.02mg, 9/6--0.0205mg, 9/8--0.02mg, 9/17--0.015mg, 9/20--0.01mg, 9/21--0.0048mg, 9/22--0.0001mg, Link to comment
MrAnxious Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 Thanks Peg and Lexi you have always stood by me and supported me and for that I am very grateful. I hope.you give me updates on how you are doing? We are still learning and finding ways to cope. Withdrawal definitely altered my whole life and I believe will always hold a piece of me. We can and we will move on though, just be med free and keep pushing through the days. Only we understand what this is truly like. On the flipside to be drug free is the place to be. Anyone recovering reading this. You will win and overcome the struggle of wd. Be brave and fight everyday. I will always come back to update. It is a worthwhile cause. Stay fresh my friends 2007-2012started Effexor xr 225mg -150mg- Varied2months of Taper,(March 22/2012 Off Med/in W/D)Currently No medicationMarch 22/2012- August 16/2012 - Totally Off Effexor( Rough Rough time) Reinstatement for a week(didn't work)****** New Doctor******* Very nice/helpful and in touch.Tried Zoloft- No successAUGUST 17/2012- STARTED 37.5 EFFEXOR FOR ONE WEEK - NOT GOOD < STOPPED.Started Buspar Oct 11th 2012----10 mg for the first 7 days and then 15mg a day---- Taking a new route----Racing thoughts - Gone.Oct 9th ( Done Zoloft,wellbutrin week project trial to feel better) - OFFICIALLY OFF ANTI DEPRESSANT !Oct 26 - Raised Buspar to 20mg a day- Tolerating wellJan 2nd 2013- Reduce Buspar until full off march 20th 2015 Off all medication ! Tried natural supplements to no avail Gluten/sugar free since december 2013 Link to comment
jen84 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Thanks for the updates Mr.A! I'm so glad things have settled for you. You keep fresh too. -jan14 2016- off effexor!!- wellbutrin:Jan 25/17;Start to split 100mg in half -Feb 12/17;100-50mg -Apr 30/17;50-30mg liquid. -June 6/ 17;30-20mg -July6/17;updose to 26mg -Oct 18/17;13 to 12mg -Nov 24/17;12 to 11mg -Feb 21/18;22 to 20mg -Apr 2/18;20 to 18mg -Apr 30/18;18 to 16mg -May 22/18;16 to 14mg -June 18/18;14 to 12.4mg -July 15 /18;12.4 to 11.6mg -Nov5/18;11.2 to 10mg -Dec14/18;10 to 10.4mg Link to comment
LexAnger Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 you are a hero to me and I admire your strength and courage! I'm still in midst of the daily struggle unfortunately with head syndrome and severe pain allover. The damage to the CNS by the meds also caused misalignment of my spine which disabled me for exercise which is my main method to battle. The thoughts of no out and life completely damaged lurks in my mind all the time. Cherish your survival and be careful about all the meds in the market. There are too many meds are dangerous and our once harmed system can be very sensitive to them still. Drug free Sep. 23 2017 2009 Mar.: lexapro 10mg for headache for 2 weeks. 2009-2012: on and off 1/4 to 1/3 of 10mg 2012 June--2013 Jan,: 1/4-1/3 of 10mg generic, bad jaw pain 2013 Jan-Mar: 10 mg generic. severe jaw and head pain; 2013 Mar--Aug. started tapering (liquid ever since) from 10 to 5 (one step) then gradually down to 2.25 mg by July. first ever panic attack, severe head/jaw pain 2013 Aug.: back to 2.75 mg; Nov: back to Brand Lex. 2.75mg -- 3mg, 2014 June: stopped PPI, head pressure/numbness. up-dosed 4.5mg, severe reaction mental symptoms added on 2014 Aug--2015 Aug: Micro taper down to 3.2mg, .025mg (<1%) cut holding 2-3 weeks. 2015 Aug 15th, Accidental one dose of 4.2mg. worsening brain non-functional, swollen head, body, coma like, DR 2016 Feb., started dosing 10am through 11 pm everyday 2/13--3.2mg, 3/15-- 2.9mg, 4/19-- 2.6mg, 6/26--2.2mg, 7/22 --1.9mg, 8/16--1.8mg，8/31--1.7m g, 9/13--1.6mg, 9/27--1.5mg, 10/8--1.4mg, 10/14--1.3mg， 11/1--1.2mg, 11/29--1.1mg, 12/12--1mg, 12/22--0.9mg 2017: 1/7--0.8mg, 1/15--0.7mg, 1/17--0.6mg, 1/20--0.52, 1/21--0.4mg, 1/22--0.26, 1/23--0.2, 2/13--0.13mg, 2/20--0.06mg, 3/18--0.13mg, 6/1--0.12mg, 7/6--0.1mg, 7/14--0.08mg, 8/17--0.04mg, 8/20--0.03mg, 8/28--0.02mg, 9/6--0.0205mg, 9/8--0.02mg, 9/17--0.015mg, 9/20--0.01mg, 9/21--0.0048mg, 9/22--0.0001mg, Link to comment
pug Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Update ! How have you been doing my fellow survivors. Well I am slowly regaining myself. This has been quite the long road and i would say within the next two years i should be recovered. I am still waiting for my sleep study but it should be around the corner as i am in que for a appointment with the sleep doctor. I am fatigued and mentally drained from my sleep apnea. As for the effexor withdrawal at 39 months out I believe I have kicked it. The Buspar wd is still fresh but all I really get is pulses through my body. As you can see by my lack of posting is that it gets better. Life gets better, but you really have to help and love yourself lots. You have to eat healthy, exercise , cut sugar to reduce imflammation. You should take Krill oil and drink lots of lemon water and decaf green tea. Lots of fruits and veggies and nuts. Have a good family support system and always look at the positive : you made it thus far. Stay alive my friends, it does get better for everyone )) I will be back for responses. Your not alone. Hope everyone is enjoying summer and soaking in the vit d. Get outside Thank you for posting an update, it is great to hear you are doing well. 20+ years of Zoloft 50-100 mg CT 03/2014 for 5 months Back on Prozac 20 mg for 4 months CT since 11/2014 Found this forum the last day of 2014 The secret is to keep going! Time will heal. Link to comment
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