Sturm Posted September 5, 2022 Author Share Posted September 5, 2022 17 minutes ago, Altostrata said: Correct, it was a withdrawal symptom. Is it possible to still be going through WD even after reinstating the medication? Clonidine 0,3mg / 0,15mg x 2 (2015-) Seroquel 25mg (2021-2022), reinstated for insomnia (increased to 100mg, only several days), stopped | Sertraline/Zoloft (2015-2022), switched to Effexor | Lamotrigine/Lamictal 25mg, increased to 50mg, stopped (2022 - June 2022)| Venlafaxine/Effexor (January 2022 - 21 July 2022), 150mg, tapered to 75mg, then to 37,5mg, stopped | Benzatropine/Cogentin (unsure of dosage, 1mg??), taken with Haloperidol, stopped (June 2022 - July 2022)| Prozac 10mg, bridge for Effexor, (21 July 2022 - 8 August 2022), stopped | Haloperidol 2mg (June 2022 - July 2022), quit cold turkey | Paspertin 10mg, proscribed for nausea, taken for around two days, stopped (August 2022 - August 2022) | Lorazepam 1mg, taken for several days for insomnia, increased to 2,5mg for three days, stopped (2022-2022) | Abilify 5mg (July 2022 - August 2022), quit cold turkey, edit: might reinstate due to discontinuation Akathisia | Hydroxyzine / Atarax 50mg x 3 (August 2022-) Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted September 5, 2022 Administrator Share Posted September 5, 2022 Did you read The Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization? It may take some time for your nervous system to settle down. Please be sure to read the links the staff gives you. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus ChessieCat Posted September 5, 2022 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 5, 2022 are-we-there-yet-how-long-is-withdrawal-going-to-take * NO LONGER ACTIVE on SA * MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: (6 year taper) 0mg Pristiq on 13th November 2021 ADs since ~1992: 25+ years - 1 unknown, Prozac (muscle weakness), Zoloft; citalopram (pooped out) CTed (very sick for 2.5 wks a few months after); Pristiq: 50mg 2012, 100mg beg 2013 (Serotonin Toxicity) Tapering from Oct 2015 - 13 Nov 2021 LAST DOSE 0.0025mg Post 0 updates start here My tapering program My Intro (goes to tapering graph) VIDEO: Antidepressant Withdrawal Syndrome and its Management Link to comment
Sturm Posted September 5, 2022 Author Share Posted September 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Altostrata said: Did you read The Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization? It may take some time for your nervous system to settle down. Please be sure to read the links the staff gives you. Yes, I’ve read it several times. Not every comment though. I really hope it doesn’t take many months or years for this to go away. I did do a CT, but it was a small dose and I wasn’t on it for long. I thought it would be okay. It was even mentioned in this thread that CT from 5mg *should* be okay. That I’m getting windows already (even if not completely gone), does that imply that this will be over somewhat soon? I know none of this can be predicted, I just need some hope. Clonidine 0,3mg / 0,15mg x 2 (2015-) Seroquel 25mg (2021-2022), reinstated for insomnia (increased to 100mg, only several days), stopped | Sertraline/Zoloft (2015-2022), switched to Effexor | Lamotrigine/Lamictal 25mg, increased to 50mg, stopped (2022 - June 2022)| Venlafaxine/Effexor (January 2022 - 21 July 2022), 150mg, tapered to 75mg, then to 37,5mg, stopped | Benzatropine/Cogentin (unsure of dosage, 1mg??), taken with Haloperidol, stopped (June 2022 - July 2022)| Prozac 10mg, bridge for Effexor, (21 July 2022 - 8 August 2022), stopped | Haloperidol 2mg (June 2022 - July 2022), quit cold turkey | Paspertin 10mg, proscribed for nausea, taken for around two days, stopped (August 2022 - August 2022) | Lorazepam 1mg, taken for several days for insomnia, increased to 2,5mg for three days, stopped (2022-2022) | Abilify 5mg (July 2022 - August 2022), quit cold turkey, edit: might reinstate due to discontinuation Akathisia | Hydroxyzine / Atarax 50mg x 3 (August 2022-) Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted September 5, 2022 Administrator Share Posted September 5, 2022 10 hours ago, Altostrata said: Did you read The Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization? It may take some time for your nervous system to settle down. Please be sure to read the links the staff gives you. 9 hours ago, ChessieCat said: are-we-there-yet-how-long-is-withdrawal-going-to-take This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Sturm Posted September 6, 2022 Author Share Posted September 6, 2022 On 8/21/2022 at 11:28 AM, Altostrata said: It may well be that the Abilify you started on August 17 relieved your withdrawal akathisia at a low dose as it was getting into your system, but since then, it's ramped up to a higher drug plasma level and is now paradoxically causing akathisia. Suggest you lower the dosage to 2.5mg and let us know how you're doing. Is it still advisable to drop down to 2,5mg? I’ve been stabilising on 5mg for a few weeks now. Could the 2,5mg actually make the akathisia not as severe? Clonidine 0,3mg / 0,15mg x 2 (2015-) Seroquel 25mg (2021-2022), reinstated for insomnia (increased to 100mg, only several days), stopped | Sertraline/Zoloft (2015-2022), switched to Effexor | Lamotrigine/Lamictal 25mg, increased to 50mg, stopped (2022 - June 2022)| Venlafaxine/Effexor (January 2022 - 21 July 2022), 150mg, tapered to 75mg, then to 37,5mg, stopped | Benzatropine/Cogentin (unsure of dosage, 1mg??), taken with Haloperidol, stopped (June 2022 - July 2022)| Prozac 10mg, bridge for Effexor, (21 July 2022 - 8 August 2022), stopped | Haloperidol 2mg (June 2022 - July 2022), quit cold turkey | Paspertin 10mg, proscribed for nausea, taken for around two days, stopped (August 2022 - August 2022) | Lorazepam 1mg, taken for several days for insomnia, increased to 2,5mg for three days, stopped (2022-2022) | Abilify 5mg (July 2022 - August 2022), quit cold turkey, edit: might reinstate due to discontinuation Akathisia | Hydroxyzine / Atarax 50mg x 3 (August 2022-) Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted September 6, 2022 Administrator Share Posted September 6, 2022 On 9/4/2022 at 3:21 PM, Sturm said: I also tested positive for Coronavirus yesterday. The fever has already seemingly broken, however. Could this cause any issues or unlikely to? And yes, rumination is something I’ve had a lot of in the past. The akathisia has made it worse though. On 9/4/2022 at 4:49 PM, Altostrata said: If I were you, I would not make any changes in your psychiatric drugs until you are fully recovered from covid. Please get your ruminations in hand. Before you post in this topic, review the answers you've already gotten. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Sturm Posted September 6, 2022 Author Share Posted September 6, 2022 I forgot to add that after I recover from Covid, not before. Clonidine 0,3mg / 0,15mg x 2 (2015-) Seroquel 25mg (2021-2022), reinstated for insomnia (increased to 100mg, only several days), stopped | Sertraline/Zoloft (2015-2022), switched to Effexor | Lamotrigine/Lamictal 25mg, increased to 50mg, stopped (2022 - June 2022)| Venlafaxine/Effexor (January 2022 - 21 July 2022), 150mg, tapered to 75mg, then to 37,5mg, stopped | Benzatropine/Cogentin (unsure of dosage, 1mg??), taken with Haloperidol, stopped (June 2022 - July 2022)| Prozac 10mg, bridge for Effexor, (21 July 2022 - 8 August 2022), stopped | Haloperidol 2mg (June 2022 - July 2022), quit cold turkey | Paspertin 10mg, proscribed for nausea, taken for around two days, stopped (August 2022 - August 2022) | Lorazepam 1mg, taken for several days for insomnia, increased to 2,5mg for three days, stopped (2022-2022) | Abilify 5mg (July 2022 - August 2022), quit cold turkey, edit: might reinstate due to discontinuation Akathisia | Hydroxyzine / Atarax 50mg x 3 (August 2022-) Link to comment
Administrator Altostrata Posted September 6, 2022 Administrator Share Posted September 6, 2022 We can't suggest what to do next until you are done with covid, you need to see how you feel then. This is not medical advice. Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a knowledgeable medical practitioner. "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has surpassed our humanity." -- Albert Einstein All postings © copyrighted. Link to comment
Manny78 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Did your akathisia get worse the lower doses? I am getting it at 2ml of abilify at night.I wake up with inner restlessness after a few hours of sleeping.I have to seat down in bed and I want to start to pace but I manage to stay sitting down.Also I am getting brain fog. Abilify from 20 mg to 10 mg-Nov.29,2017 to March.24,2019; Abilify 10 mg March.24,2019 to Sep.26,2020; 9,4ml Sep.27,2020;9,8ml Sep.29,2020;9,6ml Oct.17,2020;9,4ml Oct.30, 2020;9,2ml Nov.15,2020;9ml November 25th,2020;8,8ml December 16th,2020;8,6ml December 30th,2020;8,4ml January 13th,2021;8,2ml February 2nd,2021;8ml February 25th,2021;7,8ml March 17th,2021;7,6ml April 6th,2021;7,4ml April 18th,2021;7,2ml May 4th,2021;7ml May 26th,2021;6,8ml June 6th,2021;6,6ml July 5th,2021;6,4ml July 21st,2021;6,2ml July 31st,2021;6ml August 13th,2021;5,8ml August 31st,2021;5,6ml September 16th,2021;5,4ml October 1st,2021;5,2ml October 15th,2021;5ml Nov 1st, 2021;4,8 ml Nov 13th,2021;Abilify 4,6ml November 28th,2021;Abilify 4ml December 10th,2021;Abilify 3,8ml January 1st,2022;Abilify 3,6ml January 15th,2022;Abilify 3,4ml January 28th,2022;Abilify 3,2ml February 15th,2022;Abilify 3ml February 28th,2022;Abilify 2,8ml March 12th,2022;Abilify 2,6ml March 31,2022;Abilify 2,5ml April 19th,2022;Abilify 2,4 May 6th,2022;Abilify 2,35ml May 26th,2022;Abilify 2,3ml June 23,2022; Abilify 2,2ml June 28th,2022;Abilify 2,1ml July 19th,2002;Abilify 2ml August 19th,2022;Abilify 1,95ml November 6th,2022;Abilify 1,9ml December 16th,2022;Abilify 1,85ml January 13th,2023;Abilify 1,85ml January 14th,2023;Abilify 1,90ml January 15th,2023; Abilify 1,89ml February 5th,2023;Abilify 1,88 ml February 10th,2023; Abilify 1,88 ml February 15th,2023; Abilify 1,85 ml February,20th,2023; Abilify 1,83ml March,6th,2023, Abilify 1,80ml March 17th,2023; Abilify 1,77ml March 29th,2023; Abilify 1,75ml April 12,2023; Abilify 1,5ml September 22nd,2023 Cymbalta 120 mg Jun.28,2011; 90mg Feb.19,2013 to Jun 5,2014;60 mg Jun.5,2014 to present Klonopin 1,25 mg Jan.3,2016; 0,25mg Nov.28,2017 to present biperiden extended release 4mg April.25,2008 to Feb.6,2009;Jun 24.2011 to January 13th 2023;Biperiden 4mg extended release + biperiden 1mg Risperidone 2mg May.4,2017 to Dec 6.2019 Risperdal 1,5mg 12/06/19; 1,75mg 12/08/19; 1,5mg 12/20/19; 1,75mg (0,018g) 12/26/19 Risperidone 1,75ml 1/8/20; 1,70ml 1/18/20; 1,62ml 1/30/20; 1,54ml 2/29/20; 1,44ml 5/6/20; 1,42ml 5/7/20; 1,40ml 5/18/20; 1,30ml 6/1/20; 1,25ml 6/11/20; 1,12ml 7/5/20; 1ml 7/21/20; 0,96ml 8/16/20; 0,875ml 8/18/20; 0,86ml 8/28/20; 0,80ml 3/24/21;0,84ml 3/27/21; 0,86ml 4/4/21 Link to comment
Sturm Posted September 7, 2022 Author Share Posted September 7, 2022 38 minutes ago, Manny78 said: Did your akathisia get worse the lower doses? I am getting it at 2ml of abilify at night.I wake up with inner restlessness after a few hours of sleeping.I have to seat down in bed and I want to start to pace but I manage to stay sitting down.Also I am getting brain fog. I’m not sure. I’m hoping going down to 2,5mg from 5mg would improve it, but I’m still on 5mg until I am recovered from Coronavirus (got it a few days ago). Clonidine 0,3mg / 0,15mg x 2 (2015-) Seroquel 25mg (2021-2022), reinstated for insomnia (increased to 100mg, only several days), stopped | Sertraline/Zoloft (2015-2022), switched to Effexor | Lamotrigine/Lamictal 25mg, increased to 50mg, stopped (2022 - June 2022)| Venlafaxine/Effexor (January 2022 - 21 July 2022), 150mg, tapered to 75mg, then to 37,5mg, stopped | Benzatropine/Cogentin (unsure of dosage, 1mg??), taken with Haloperidol, stopped (June 2022 - July 2022)| Prozac 10mg, bridge for Effexor, (21 July 2022 - 8 August 2022), stopped | Haloperidol 2mg (June 2022 - July 2022), quit cold turkey | Paspertin 10mg, proscribed for nausea, taken for around two days, stopped (August 2022 - August 2022) | Lorazepam 1mg, taken for several days for insomnia, increased to 2,5mg for three days, stopped (2022-2022) | Abilify 5mg (July 2022 - August 2022), quit cold turkey, edit: might reinstate due to discontinuation Akathisia | Hydroxyzine / Atarax 50mg x 3 (August 2022-) Link to comment
Sturm Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 I dropped down to 2,5mg of Abilify this Monday. I have seen a pretty decent amount of improvement since I went down. The mostly involuntary leg movements have nearly stopped. I, however, still feel the vibratory feeling in my lower legs. I don’t know if that feeling has improved at all. I have also noticed I am able to sit and lay down almost normally (without kicking or moving my legs constantly). Since I feel I am getting better, the constant rumination has likewise decreased. I also have noticed that the lower leg vibration feeling almost ceases at some point during the night (as I sleep). When I wake up, it is often very much decreased temporarily, until the feeling comes back (usually prompted by getting up). I should mention that I have been taking benzatropine (2mg per day), but I don’t think this has much to do with me feeling better. That mostly has occurred since going down in dosage on the Abilify. Would it be too far to suggest that tapering further would improve my symptoms further? Clonidine 0,3mg / 0,15mg x 2 (2015-) Seroquel 25mg (2021-2022), reinstated for insomnia (increased to 100mg, only several days), stopped | Sertraline/Zoloft (2015-2022), switched to Effexor | Lamotrigine/Lamictal 25mg, increased to 50mg, stopped (2022 - June 2022)| Venlafaxine/Effexor (January 2022 - 21 July 2022), 150mg, tapered to 75mg, then to 37,5mg, stopped | Benzatropine/Cogentin (unsure of dosage, 1mg??), taken with Haloperidol, stopped (June 2022 - July 2022)| Prozac 10mg, bridge for Effexor, (21 July 2022 - 8 August 2022), stopped | Haloperidol 2mg (June 2022 - July 2022), quit cold turkey | Paspertin 10mg, proscribed for nausea, taken for around two days, stopped (August 2022 - August 2022) | Lorazepam 1mg, taken for several days for insomnia, increased to 2,5mg for three days, stopped (2022-2022) | Abilify 5mg (July 2022 - August 2022), quit cold turkey, edit: might reinstate due to discontinuation Akathisia | Hydroxyzine / Atarax 50mg x 3 (August 2022-) Link to comment
Sturm Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 The weird thing is…I’m not even sure the pins and needles feeling in the legs is related to Akathisia. It appeared along with the Akathisia, but I do not know if it is from Akathisia or just another symptom related to withdrawal. I cannot find much evidence of those with Akathisia having a feeling in their legs. The feeling itself is a bit like a parathesia. I still have it but it appears unrelated to an urge to move. Ever since a few days of being reduced to 2,5mg, I’ve had much less strong urges to move when sitting and even lying down. But the Neuropathy-like tingling is still present. Under Abilify side effect listings, I do occasionally see mentions of ‘tingling in hands and legs.’ Is this related to Akathisia or a completely different side effect? Clonidine 0,3mg / 0,15mg x 2 (2015-) Seroquel 25mg (2021-2022), reinstated for insomnia (increased to 100mg, only several days), stopped | Sertraline/Zoloft (2015-2022), switched to Effexor | Lamotrigine/Lamictal 25mg, increased to 50mg, stopped (2022 - June 2022)| Venlafaxine/Effexor (January 2022 - 21 July 2022), 150mg, tapered to 75mg, then to 37,5mg, stopped | Benzatropine/Cogentin (unsure of dosage, 1mg??), taken with Haloperidol, stopped (June 2022 - July 2022)| Prozac 10mg, bridge for Effexor, (21 July 2022 - 8 August 2022), stopped | Haloperidol 2mg (June 2022 - July 2022), quit cold turkey | Paspertin 10mg, proscribed for nausea, taken for around two days, stopped (August 2022 - August 2022) | Lorazepam 1mg, taken for several days for insomnia, increased to 2,5mg for three days, stopped (2022-2022) | Abilify 5mg (July 2022 - August 2022), quit cold turkey, edit: might reinstate due to discontinuation Akathisia | Hydroxyzine / Atarax 50mg x 3 (August 2022-) Link to comment
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