Najla: amitriptyline from June 2019 until June 2022

[Najla]

قبل 3 ساعات، قال فور:

مرحبا، أنا آسف لأنك بعد شهرين جيدين قد ضربت موجة. هذا محبط للغاية بالنسبة لك. لكن أليس من الرائع أن يكون لديك شهرين جيدين؟ يا لها من أخبار رائعة!
 

هل كنت مشغولا جدا؟ هل حدث شيء مرهق؟ نحن حساسون جدا عندما نتعافى من هذه الأدوية ويستغرق التعافي وقتا طويلا جدا. ستحتاج إلى توخي الحذر لبعض الوقت في المستقبل.
 

@almuPAلديها أيضا أوقات تبلي فيها بلاء حسنا ثم تأتي موجة وهي (على ما أعتقد) على بعد 3 سنوات من الديك الرومي البارد على أدويتها. ستصل إلى هناك. سيمر هذا. ☺️

Thank you very much. I read her entire story as if she was talking about me. I felt that there was someone with me. I felt sad that she was still exposed to waves after 3 years. I wish her a speedy recovery for me and everyone. I have a question. Is it possible that watching one of the series that ends in a sad ending will affect us? Myself exhausted after finishing watching the series?

[Najla]

ساعة قبل ذلك، قالت راشيل سوزان:

@Najlaأنا آسف لأنك في موجة. من المحزن دائما الشعور بالأعراض مرة أخرى بعد الاعتقاد بأنها اختفت إلى الأبد. سيذهبون بعيدا لكنني أعرف مدى صعوبة الانتظار. أتمنى أن تشعر بتحسن قريبا.

Thank you Rachel, I hope so too. Thank you for your support, your presence and your concern. This means a lot to me. I need support because I do not have a supportive family.

I often feel lonely

[Faure]

8 hours ago, Najla said:

Is it possible that watching one of the series that ends in a sad ending will affect us? Myself exhausted after finishing watching the series?

Binge watching tv series? I am afraid I am guilty of doing this as well. I avoid anything violent or sad and try to watch uplifting things. I’m not sure sad TV in itself would bring on a wave but sitting on the sofa watching tv isn’t not good for us (I still do it because I’m often tired and need a lot of rest). Exhaustion will definitely contribute towards a wave.
 

Sometimes a wave will just happen because it was always going to happen. Healing is taking place and this will pass. You will feel better again. I know it’s totally disheartening to experience this after some time of feeling good. 

 

[Najla]

قبل 17 ساعة، قال فور:

هل تشاهد مسلسلا تلفزيونيا؟ أخشى أنني مذنب بفعل هذا أيضا. أتجنب أي شيء عنيف أو حزين وأحاول مشاهدة الأشياء المشجعة. لست متأكدا من أن التلفزيون الحزين في حد ذاته سيجلب موجة ولكن الجلوس على الأريكة ومشاهدة التلفزيون ليس جيدا بالنسبة لنا (ما زلت أفعل ذلك لأنني غالبا ما أكون متعبا وأحتاج إلى الكثير من الراحة). سيساهم الإرهاق بالتأكيد في موجة.
 

في بعض الأحيان ستحدث موجة لأنها كانت ستحدث دائما. يحدث الشفاء وسيمر هذا. ستشعر بتحسن مرة أخرى. أعلم أنه من المحبط تماما تجربة هذا بعد بعض الوقت من الشعور بالرضا.

 

Indeed, because I suffer from stress all the time and without making any effort, I am forced to watch TV, especially Netflix, but unfortunately most of the series are terrifying or sad and are not without a miserable ending that causes me frustration. I have always been very sensitive to sad stories. It may be because of my long suffering in life, due to the loss of And the death of my brother, followed by the death of my father, then my mother, then my sister had breast cancer, and it was difficult days, and although she finished her treatment, the impact of that period I still felt, and she became very sensitive.

[Najla]

I completed ten months free of Amitriptyline, I did not taper or reduce the dose, I jumped directly from 10 gm to zero without reducing the dose, what is new this week is strange throbbing, pain in all parts of the body, the kidneys area, pain in the legs and left hand, a spasm in the neck that may be due to the use of the phone Excessive flatulence, general weakness in the body, For some time I have been suffering from a feeling of fatigue when speaking, speaking or laughing, as if I have made a great effort. Has this happened to anyone?

Please @ألتوستراتاGive me your opinion and I will be grateful🙏🏻

[Najla]

Just now, Najla said:

I completed ten months free of Amitriptyline, I did not taper or reduce the dose, I jumped directly from 10 gm to zero without reducing the dose, what is new this week is strange throbbing, pain in all parts of the body, the kidneys area, pain in the legs and left hand, a spasm in the neck that may be due to the use of the phone Excessive flatulence, general weakness in the body, For some time I have been suffering from a feeling of fatigue when speaking, speaking or laughing, as if I have made a great effort. Has this happened to anyone?

Please @ألتوستراتاGive me your opinion and I will be grateful🙏🏻

@Altostrata

[Altostrata]

Hello, @Najla

 

I am sorry you have protracted withdrawal from going off amitriptyline. This can last a very long time.

 

In the last 4 months, how has your symptom pattern changed? How's your sleep?

[Najla]

قبل 44 دقيقة، قال ألتوستراتا:

مرحبا،@Najla

 

أنا آسف لأنك تأخرت في الانسحاب من الخروج من أميتريبتيلين. يمكن أن يستمر هذا لفترة طويلة جدا.

 

في الأشهر الأربعة الماضية، كيف تغير نمط أعراضك؟ كيف حال نومك؟

First, I want to express my thanks and gratitude for your response I sleep well compared to the first months at this point not devoid of nightmares and waking up every hour and back again but better February was ok I was in a long window so you think I was out of hell in March the symptoms returned and a few windows but At the end of March, I entered into a severe wave of physical pain, not mental 💔 Low pressure, palpitations, severe weakness in the body, and symptoms increase during the menstrual cycle more. I observed here that most people have mental or emotional withdrawal symptoms, while I suffer greatly from physical symptoms.

[Altostrata]

It sounds like you are slowly healing naturally, with the usual frustrating waves and windows.

 

Many people here have physical symptoms of withdrawal, like yourself.

 

Quite often, withdrawal symptoms worsen around times in the menstrual cycle. 

 

See 

PMS, PMDD, and menstrual cycle issues during withdrawal and after

 

 

The Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization

 

Are We There Yet? How Long is Withdrawal Going to Take?

 

"Is it always going to be like this?"

 

The importance of recognizing you're feeling good

 

 

 

[Najla]

20 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

It sounds like you are slowly healing naturally, with the usual frustrating waves and windows.

 

Many people here have physical symptoms of withdrawal, like yourself.

 

Quite often, withdrawal symptoms worsen around times in the menstrual cycle. 

 

See 

PMS, PMDD, and menstrual cycle issues during withdrawal and after

 

 

The Windows and Waves Pattern of Stabilization

 

Are We There Yet? How Long is Withdrawal Going to Take?

 

"Is it always going to be like this?"

 

The importance of recognizing you're feeling good

 

 

 

Thank you, I have read almost the entire site, but sometimes I am suspicious and amazed at the extent of the effect of these drugs, even if the dose is small, so I panic and search for someone to reassure me. Withdrawal may be a disease that I did not know about. I do not want to take a lot of your time. Thank you for your participation here. It makes me feel that there is someone with me 🙏🏻

[Altostrata]

Please visit other Introductions topics, you'll see many people feel the same.

[Najla]

قبل 8 دقائق، قال ألتوستراتا:

يرجى زيارة مواضيع مقدمات أخرى، سترى الكثير من الناس يشعرون بنفس الشيء.

I will definitely do that, thanks a lot🙏🏻❤️

[Najla]

Hello everyone, since April 13th until today, May 10th, I am in a very long wave. I feel hopeless. Difficulty doing any simple effort. Fatigue all the time. Extreme weakness. What saddens me most now is that I cannot participate in any activity with my 15-year-old daughter. She feels that I am falling short with her. After 20 days there is a graduation party. She will go to high school, and I want to be present and supportive of her at the party. I hope to regain my activity for the sake of my children. I felt that I wanted to get some words out of my chest, so I was here.😭😭😭

[Najla]

Update, my period is approaching, and as usual, a condition of akathisia hits my body

[Altostrata]

It's very common for women to have worse withdrawal effects at times in their menstrual cycles.

[Najla]

قبل 3 ساعات، قال ألتوستراتا:

من الشائع جدا أن يكون لدى النساء آثار انسحاب أسوأ في بعض الأحيان في دوراتهن الشهرية.

Yes, I completely agree with you, and through my experience, and after 10 months have passed, I try to understand all the details and record them to know the order of everything. I also want the new people in the forum to benefit from the updates. My period was twice a month after stopping Amtriptyline. And the symptoms are much lighter. I want everyone to benefit from my story👍❤️

[Faure]

On 5/10/2023 at 6:42 PM, Najla said:

Hello everyone, since April 13th until today, May 10th, I am in a very long wave. I feel hopeless. Difficulty doing any simple effort. Fatigue all the time. Extreme weakness. What saddens me most now is that I cannot participate in any activity with my 15-year-old daughter. She feels that I am falling short with her. After 20 days there is a graduation party. She will go to high school, and I want to be present and supportive of her at the party. I hope to regain my activity for the sake of my children. I felt that I wanted to get some words out of my chest, so I was here.😭😭😭

I am sorry you are still in a wave. These withdrawal effects really are dreadful and I can only imagine how it must feel not to be able to be there for your children.
I hope you feel better before too much longer ❤️

[Najla]

10 دقائق، قال فور:

أنا آسف لأنك ما زلت في موجة. آثار الانسحاب هذه مروعة حقا ولا يسعني إلا أن أتخيل كيف يجب أن أشعر بعدم القدرة على التواجد هناك من أجل أطفالك.
أتمنى أن تشعر بتحسن قبل فترة أطول ❤️

Thank you, Fur, for your sympathy. Two days ago, I entered a window. I hope I got rid of the long waves, but the acacia suddenly attacked.

[RachelSusan]

I hope your window continues. This is a difficult process for all of us.  You are not alone. 

[Faure]

Oh that’s great news you entered a window. Be very careful not to do too much. Keep things slow and steady. Doing too much can bring on a wave, including, apparently, distressing tv shows 😝

 

At my worst I used to watch Moving Art on Netflix. That was so relaxing with nothing upsetting! 
 

What do you mean by acacia? This is a tree 😂😂😂

[Najla]

ساعتين قبل ذلك، قالت راشيل سوزان:

آمل أن تستمر نافذتك. هذه عملية صعبة بالنسبة لنا جميعا. أنت لست وحدك.

Thank you, Rachel, for your support. I hope so too. Yes, we are all in these hardships, but they will go away, God willing

[Najla]

On 5/18/2023 at 7:41 PM, Faure said:

Oh that’s great news you entered a window. Be very careful not to do too much. Keep things slow and steady. Doing too much can bring on a wave, including, apparently, distressing tv shows 😝

 

At my worst I used to watch Moving Art on Netflix. That was so relaxing with nothing upsetting! 
 

What do you mean by acacia? This is a tree 😂😂😂

Hello Four, I think my translation is suffering from a problem, I mean (Akathisia)🤣🤣

[Najla]

Hello, an update. I suffer from a week of pain in the lower jaw muscle. Is this a common withdrawal symptom?

[Altostrata]

On 5/23/2023 at 12:28 AM, Najla said:

Hello, an update. I suffer from a week of pain in the lower jaw muscle. Is this a common withdrawal symptom?

 

When did this start? Is there anything else that might have caused this pain? Do you find yourself clenching your teeth?

[Najla]

ساعة قبل ساعة، قال ألتوستراتا:

 

متى بدأ هذا؟ هل هناك أي شيء آخر ربما تسبب في هذا الألم؟ هل تجد نفسك تتشتق في أسنانك؟

Hello, this is only 8 days ago. Yesterday I went to the emergency. The doctor told me that there is inflammation in the lymph nodes below the jaw. She told me to go to the ENT doctor. I feel as if the lower jaw is burning. I am on my period.

 

I don't bite my teeth, I suffer from biting my tongue, but this is from a long time ago.

[Altostrata]

Enlarged lymph nodes indicate an infection. This usually is not associated with withdrawal.

[Najla]

قبل 4 دقائق، قال ألتوستراتا:

تشير الغدد الليمفاوية المتضخمة إلى وجود عدوى. عادة لا يرتبط هذا بالانسحاب.

Yes, the enlarged glands told me that it was an infection, but I noticed that the pain in the lower jaw always comes with the approach or during the period.

[Altostrata]

Increased pain sensitivity at times in the menstrual cycle is common. This is unrelated to withdrawal.

[Najla]

ساعة قبل ساعة، قال ألتوستراتا:

زيادة حساسية الألم في بعض الأحيان في الدورة الشهرية أمر شائع. هذا لا علاقة له بالانسحاب.

Thanks Alto, I think because of the multiple withdrawal symptoms we can no longer think well or we can distinguish between withdrawal or otherwise, I will wait until a week, if the condition does not improve, I will go to an ear, nose and throat doctor

[Altostrata]

Suggest you go immediately to a medical doctor about the enlarged lymph nodes.

[Najla]

4 hours ago, Altostrata said:

Suggest you go immediately to a medical doctor about the enlarged lymph nodes.

Ok i well 👍

[Najla]

Update, I examined the lymph nodes at the throat and nose doctor, he said they are normal, but he told me that I suffer from acid reflux in the stomach, which led to a feeling of burning in the mouth, and I also woke up today from sleep while I was biting my teeth hard. This may be the cause of lower jaw pain, I have a feeling Dizziness, imbalance and nausea,

There are 17 days left and I have completed a year without amitriptyline. I was hoping that the withdrawal symptoms would completely end at this time. Everyone still does not believe that what I am suffering from until now are withdrawal symptoms from amitriptyline, but I got used to loneliness.

[Altostrata]

When people are clenching their teeth from withdrawal, a bite guard to wear at night can alleviate the symptoms.

[Najla]

قبل 32 دقيقة، قال ألتوستراتا:

عندما يقبض الناس أسنانهم من الانسحاب، يمكن لحارس اللدغة لارتدائه في الليل أن يخفف من الأعراض.

 Yes i well do👍

[ChelseaMorning]

Hi Najla,

 

I also believe I am suffering from Amitriptyline withdrawal. So far it has been 17 months since I stopped amitriptyline, and the last 2 months I have seen significant improvement in my symptoms. At months 12-13 my symptoms got temporarily worse (I had a bad cold, followed by COVID which I think worsened my withdrawal). However following these two worst months, I had my two best months. 

 

I also haven't had any doctor confirm my withdrawal from amitriptyline, but for me it seems the most likely thing that accurately explains my symptoms.

 

I tell you my story, because although everyone will have there own timeline for recovering, I hope it gives you an example that things can get better.

[Comecloser80]

@ChelseaMorning Has your sleep improved dramatically in past two months? Are you taking anything to help you with sleep?