Jami: need help and advice

[Jami]

Hello, my name is Jami. I am new to this forum and need some support and advice on a taper. I haven't started the Prozac taper yet but i have been injured by the medical field for the past four years. I have come off five diff phyc med drugs given to me for one wd for the next. It has been a brutal couple of years. I was given the wrong advice and Poly drugged because no dr or phyc dr. understood what i was going through. I searched for help and came across a benzo forum and found out what i was going through was benzo wds. and then i was told to come off lexipro . I was on that for 16 years, and it wasn't even being given to me by a phyc dr. I didn't ever struggle with depression or anything. I had an acute situation 16 years ago and just stayed on the Lexapro with no one tell me it is doing more harm than anything? i tapered 20 mlg for 8 months and when i got down from 5mlg to 2.5 something unimaginable happened. I had severe pacing akathisia and verbal aka. I paced for 5 months. I went to ers hospitals, phyc hospitals everywhere, and they all said i had anxiety! I had flu symptoms, chills, burning skin, insomnia, shakes, pgad, muscle pains, joints, agoraphobia, sweats, paranoid, angry etc. and it wouldn't stop? I had full on ssri discontinuation syndrome. No one was able to help me. I was told by a phyc dr that that cannot happen when i did my own research and it can and did. I was then put on Zyprexa with Prozac. 20 mlg Prozac, and 5 mlg of Zyprexa. I decided i didn't want to stay on the Zyprexa so i lowered it right away to 2.5 and then began to taper it by liquid for 14 months. I also was put back on a benzo that i had to taper another benzo liquid for 12 months. I was also having wds from baclofen was given to me again with no clue that was so addictive, and I even was put on suboxone for pain that I had to come off and went through severe wds from. It's been an absolute terrifying nightmare. for me and my family and loss of job and life. I am now 5 weeks off Zyprexa and having horrific wds. and am just taking the Prozac 20 mlg and I feel like when i now take the Prozac my now sensitive brain cant even handle that? I want to come off it but i am scared that i will have aka again like last time. I don't know if the Prozac is an entirely diff drug then the Lexapro now being out of my system for almost 3 years. Can i taper while i am in Zyprexa wd??? and still 6 months now off this valume? I also can't find much literature on Zyprexa wds ? I have all the aches pains anxiety tremors insomnia joints ache teeth hurt eyes blurry. its getting a little better but still very much there. I have spent over 100,000 on tests and treatments being told i have Lyme again and this and that. had major Lyme treatments. nothing worked. Because it's been one drug wd after the next and there is no information out there? These drs don't have a clue??? Its not my Lyme its classic brain injury. I am wondering if anyone has any advice or help for me to get through the rest of this nightmare. Thank you. I cannot even type the major harm and trauma that has been done to me with this, its hard to fathom this can happen to people. 

Edited March 27 by Emonda
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[Emonda]

Welcome @Jami

 

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9 hours ago, Jami said:

I want to come off it but i am scared that i will have aka again like last time.

 

Many on this site have success tapering very slowly: Why taper by 10% of my dosage?

 

If you go faster than 10% per month, you'll likely end up with unpleasant WD symptoms: Daily Checklist of Antidepressant Withdrawal Symptoms (PDF) 

 

Improvement happens slowly over time: Windows and waves pattern of stabilization. Some find these Non-drug coping strategies helpful.

 

We don't suggest many supplements, but two that many of us find helpful are magnesium and omega-3 fish oil. Here are the links for info about those. Add one at a time and start with a low dose to see how it affects you. 

Magnesium

 

Omega-3 fatty acids (fish oil)

 

Avoid alcohol. 

 

Don't change the manufacturer of your AD.

 

This is your own Introduction topic.  Each member has only ONE Introduction topic.  Your own Introduction topic is the best place to ask questions and the place to journal your progress.  This keeps your history in one place and means you do not have to repeat your story. 

 

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[Jami]

In 2006-2022 lexipro 20 mlg

20021-klonapin .05 mlg a day. and then a month after that was ct, and then back on a a few days later 3x aday. then tried to get off it for 8 months on and off kindled. to 2022. 

2022 started to taper 20 mlg lexipro for about 8 months and stopped at 2.5 mlg 

2022baclofen 10 mlgs for wd pain

2022 gabbapentin 900 mlg a day

mid year 2022 was put on valume 10 mlg . started tapering affter 3 months on to 2023 liquid for a year and off at around 2023and  been off it for 6 months one week 

2023 put on prozac 20 mlg and zyprexa 2.5 mlg.

liquid tapered zyprexa for 14 months 

still on prozac 20 mlg 2024

off zyprexa now 5 and half weeks 3/27/2024

off everything now except prozac

in benzo wd recovery and now very bad zyprexa wd 

[Jami]

Hi , can anyone tell me if coming off zyprexa 2.5 mlg liquid taper for 14 months cause pgad? i am a female off this drug for 5 and half weeks now . I had bad tremors , and shakes and brain shakes and extreme anxiety and rocking and nerve pains and teeth hurt from nerves. I cant find anyone that knows about phyc drug wds except the benzo groups. I am 6 months off valume and wanting to start tappering prozac 20 mlg but am frightned because of my wds now. I dont know if taking my prozac is making my other wds worse? Can i still heal if i dont start tapering this yet? I had lyme but i have been treated and treated and these symptoms all seem to be medication wds. Can this happen?

[Emonda]

Hi Jami,

I have moved your new post back here to your own thread. Please post anything relating to yourself here, rather than starting a new thread.

 

Also, I've just seen you sent me a PM several hours ago. It's best to post questions here, rather than send me PMs as I work full-time. Posting here gives others the chance to help you.

 

As to your drug signature, please look at the link in my first post and follow those instructions. Your signature needs to appear at the bottom of every post. That makes it easier for others to see at a place where you're up to.

 

6 hours ago, Jami said:

Can anyone tell me if coming off zyprexa 2.5 mlg liquid taper for 14 months cause pgad?

 

These drugs cause some unpleasant side effects. I have heard of some developing PGAD going on ADs.

 

6 hours ago, Jami said:

wanting to start tappering prozac 20 mlg but am frightned because of my wds now

 

Have a read of this link:

 

 

6 hours ago, Jami said:

Can i still heal if i dont start tapering this yet?

 

Depending on how quickly you stopped Zyprexa and Valium, you may well have WD from that. We all heal with time and patience.

 

If you have WD symptoms from the Zyprexa and Valium, I'd wait until you feel stable before considering touching Prozac.

 

Time and patience are your friends.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Emonda

(BTW: you are welcome to jump on other people's introductions and interact with them - I think you asked about that in the PM you sent me)
 

 

 

[LostInCanada]

@Jami hi am welcome to SA. You sure have been through a lot. If you use the search icon and put pgad, you will find much information on this and its connection with withdrawal. 

I can see you attempted to do a drug signature but just ended up posting it on your thread. I would copy that info and then click on your name, then account, then account settings, then settings area and then signature. Then paste your info and save. ♥️ It would be great if you could add specific dates and tapering dosages. 

15 hours ago, Jami said:

wanting to start tappering prozac 20 mlg

Your central nervous system is trying to heal still from the previous tapers. Please do not try to taper yet. You need to be pretty much symptom free to start the Prozac taper. You may be experiencing withdrawal from the Benzo or zyprexa and this needs to settle.

Exactly how long were you on zyprexa and how did you taper off, dates and dosages. A very tiny reinstatement might help but we need a bit more information. Thanks 😊

 

[Jami]

I have tapered off zyprexa 2.5 mlg was only on it a month and then tapered last year . I tapered it for 14 months . Liquid . And stopped on tiny dose liquid 5 and half weeks ago . I tapered valume liquid also for 12 months and was only on it about 2 months and I had bad wds also . And 6 months 1 week off . I have Pgad which I had coming off many meds . And I am worried that the Prozac might be making it worse as I continue to take it ? I hope I am posting in the right area . I am scared that I still have Lyme or something and there is no accurate testimg Becaise I had it in the past . So they go by symptoms? and that is scarying me to death because these symptoms are so same . ? As Lyme ? So I don’t know what to do ? I’m at a loss . Feeling alone and scared : with what to do ? The Lyme dr says it Lyme but then they don’t know wds either ? So I went back on antimalarias thinking this could be Lyme ? I’m so confused . Def had bad bad wds from all meds I had taken . 

[LostInCanada]

4 minutes ago, Jami said:

tapered off zyprexa 2.5 mlg was only on it a month and then tapered last year . I tapered it for 14 months . Liquid .

So you were on Zyprexa 15 months correct? What was the amount of your last dose? How often did you drop the dose and by what percentage?

 

5 minutes ago, Jami said:

valume liquid also for 12 months and was only on it about 2 months and I had bad wds also . And 6 months 1 week off

So you were on Valium for 14 months ? What exact date did you stop and what was the amount of your last dose? How often did you drop the dose and by what percentage?

6 minutes ago, Jami said:

worried that the Prozac might be making it worse

Your body is used to this drug and it shouldn't be causing a problem.

9 minutes ago, Jami said:

So I went back on antimalarias

When did you do this and what are the names of the drugs. Please use the search icon and put Lyme in the search bar. Others on here have dealt with Lyme disease as well. 

 

11 minutes ago, Jami said:

Feeling alone and scared

It is a hard journey but please be assured you will be okay and heal. Breathe, be accepting, be kind to yourself. 

[Jami]

I was tapering on a 1 ml siringe . And I was dropping literally a small notch of it . Per every few weeks . And then at the end I was literally on a notch and I came off one week after I got down to that really low notch . Mabe I should have held longer . But when came off I had Parkinsonism shakes and I had brain tremors and leg jerks . Burning skin and brain . Which I am getting now . And joints and muscles . And sweats and chills . And muscles spams . And this feeling of tight throat and pulling . And I am so scared right now because I don’t even know how to go on this forum and look at this . Or who I am even talking to right now ? But I just started the antimalarias again . Becaise I don’t know for sure if it’s wds or Lyme or both ? I had Lyme 19 years ago . And then in 21 when I came off klonapin I had it again . Came out from me being in wds . And I treated it and treated it . And then 6 months ago my dr Lyme dr told me that I had 3 tick born illness and we have to treat ? But he doesn’t want to know about wds ? And he doesn’t want to understand this and the confusion . So I stopped Becaise my nervous system felt like it couldn’t handle the meds . And now I am still having symptoms. And when I look up Lyme and I look up wds they are exactly the same ? So how do u know . Or can rest in peace with knowing what’s happening ? Cause no one understands wds ? No dr ? No one . But the groups . And my mom is the one here for me . I’m 47 and for the past 4 years I have been through just enough . My sister is 50 and has been battling stage four cancer . And we are all so close and got bad news yesterday . And mom can’t handle the stress from me and my sister . At the same time ? And I feel like I don’t know how to do this anymore ? What to belive ? Who to trust .  It’s just terror wvwey single day because I have these horrific symptoms. But the fear and stress over what to do is killimg me . I was a model and actress a bartender social butterfly. To beimg house bound now for almost 4 years . And I don’t want to do this anymore ! I’m sorry for messaging this long message but I feel like I am having a breakdown from everything ! 

[Jami]

I feel as if I’m loosing my mind . And I never had a mental illness . And I feel like I just don’t think I can continue this way ? And I have to take these Lyme meds just in case ? And they are very powerful drugs . So I can’t go to a hospital because they don’t know wds . And they also don’t know Lyme . So how do I do this ? Please god someone tell me how to do this.  

[Jami]

I went back on courtem and bolouke suppliments today . 🤷‍♀️. Omg ! I am having a nervous breakdown ! I’m sorry ! I’m so scared and so lost ! 

[LostInCanada]

43 minutes ago, Jami said:

never had a mental illness .

These drugs cause the very symptoms they saw they "cure". These are how the drugs have affected your central nervous system. It is not you but the drug withdrawal.

43 minutes ago, Jami said:

I have to take these Lyme meds just in case ? And they are very powerful drugs

Did you have a tic bite? Have you been hiking unprotected? The symptoms you are describing sound like withdrawals and not Lyme disease to me. Especially the panic, terror and racing mind. Look through this list of WD symptoms please:

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/2390-dr-joseph-glenmullens-withdrawal-symptom-checklist/

The timing of all the symptoms also lines up with WD not Lyme. 

 

58 minutes ago, Jami said:

came off one week after I got down to that really low notch .

To properly taper at the end it is necessary to add water to the drug solution to dilute it and go down as far as possible and as close to zero as possible. The method you used was too fast. It is recommended only a reduction of 10% maximum off your current dose. So it looks like your final dose was 0.1 ml. Do you know what the drug ratio was? Was it 1ml=1mg? I think reinstating a small amount will help but we need to know the exact ratio of drug to ml. You can phone the pharmacy.

 

1 hour ago, Jami said:

who I am even talking to right now

You are talking to @LostInCanadabut anyone can read this and talk with you 

55 minutes ago, Jami said:

Who to trust

No one is making money here at least. We have all went through or are going through the same things you are. 

47 minutes ago, Jami said:

went back on courtem and bolouke

Doctors make money off of prescriptions. Does it make sense if you have been housebound for 4 years that you would have Lyme disease? 

59 minutes ago, Jami said:

I just don’t think I can continue this way ?

You have come a long way and are so strong. You will survive this and thrive. This is only temporary. ❤️

[Jami]

I do agree with u about the timing for all

this . The time frame of when the drugs started in 21 and the horrific tail spin of meds prescribed to me and one med after the other coming off . Yes , I had extreme terror ! Afraid to step off my porch . Afraid of sounds and the door bell . Strange things . And noise . And then the burning , and the insomnia and sweats chills muscles joints. Pgad . Throat tight . Restless . All of it . I had lyme 19 years ago . I was treated then . I was not re bitten . And I had so much stress coming off the ssri and meds in 21 , that I testimg possitive for Lyme again . ? But , I didn’t have any symptoms really before this med thing . I treated the lyme over and over while I’m wds confised and the ll dr said 6 months ago from a lab called vibrant that I have tick born illnesses. ? But I tried to explain over and over again that I have been in one wd after the next . And he said I’m not buying it 😳! So that sent me into panic now for all these years going through this being confused and lost. Once u have Lyme I think u can always test possitive , so I asked this other np Lyme person and she said that at some point I was exposed . Yes I was . But , I was treated over 75,000 or more in Lyme treatments and medical tests over the last 4 years . Before that I Mabe had some fatigue . But that was it . My mom is yelling at me that this is f wds. !!!! And it’s not the Lyme . It’s just so hard to fathom that this could cause burning , and aches and pains and tremors and insomnia and panic . And Pgad ? Also wondering if when I take the Prozac now being in wds if that is making me worse ? Like the Pgad . It’s just a mess . And I cannot belive what has been happening . It’s an absolute nightmare ! 

[Jami]

I don’t even know the siringe is a thin one that has a 1 ml at bottom w tiny notches . The entire seringe would be 1 mlg . So I went down to like one small notch to bottom w another small notch left to go ? But I thought was so so Tiny how could that make a diff ? Thought it was just benzo wd causing the symptoms. And then I stopped and bam ! 2 days later it went crazy ! Rocking back and forth out of my mind . Burning shaking tremors . Shakes . Jerks . Now it slowed down a bit but keeps flaring up Real bad sometimes sleep sometimes I don’t ? Or I wake up burning and anxiety . And aches . I don’t know 😢

[LostInCanada]

3 minutes ago, Jami said:

dr said 6 months ago from a lab called vibrant that I have tick born illnesses. ? But I tried to explain over and over again that I have been in one wd after the next . And he said I’m not buying it

Lab tests are not conclusive because of all the false positives. He makes his money in Lyme disease and lucrative $ from prescribing meds. Honestly to me he sounds like every doctor that disregards WD and I personally would stay clear of him. Is he your family doctor? Any drugs you add to your system can cause more destabilization.

7 minutes ago, Jami said:

My mom is yelling at me that this is f wds. !!!! And it’s not the Lyme

At this point I would be trusting her. She can see the connection.

 

8 minutes ago, Jami said:

wondering if when I take the Prozac now being in wds if that is making me worse

Your body is used to the prozac. Don't change this at all.

[LostInCanada]

2 minutes ago, Jami said:

thought was so so Tiny how could that make a diff ?

It's how they are made. The most power is at the smallest doses. Can you phone the pharmacy and find out what the drug to ml ratio was? If you want to try a tiny tiny reinstatement we need to know that ratio. 

[Jami]

No he’s not a family dr . He’s a Lyme lit dr that doesn’t take insurance . I had reg western blot tests and lab tests and all negative from the hospitals ? But his tests and igenex that don’t take insurance . I took am antimalaria and now I feel worse . Yes . But I thought it was die off reactions . But I guess it was not . I’m sorry . I know I sound crazy . It’s just that they don’t know drug wds . And I have been alone doing my own research and knowing what’s going on w the wds . But I just have been so so confused and just so scared w this whole thing Becaise  no drs know about wds ? 

[Jami]

So the smaller the dose the harder to stop ? 

[Jami]

I’m confused what ure saying ? Sorry . Ure saying it was too tiny to make this happen ? 

[Jami]

Oh I’m sorry . That was me

eho said that ? I am loosing it already . I’m sorry 

[Jami]

Yeah . A mess . I did def have like a flare up of Lyme in 21 . They say . But who knows if that was even causing me symptoms ! Could have been an old infection from 19 years ago . Or just not giving me symptoms. How can a lab look under a microscope and tell u if u have it or not ? Like don’t they see in a microscope active infevtions ? This whole thing is a f nightmare. I guess I will stay off the lyme drugs and try to heal . Thank you all! I just really hope that the Prozac isn’t making Pgad worse . When I take it cause I can’t taper that yet . I’m really not crazy . But all this makes u crazy . And the obsession thoughts I am getting non stop . 🤷‍♀️😢again thank u 🙏 ❤️‍🩹

[LostInCanada]

22 minutes ago, Jami said:

smaller the dose the harder to stop

The drugs are not linear, they are hyperbolic. So the smaller doses pack the biggest punch. Logic would say 2.5 mg has half the effect of 5 mg but this isn't true with these drugs. 2.5 mg will have like 80% the effect. 1.25 mg might have 60% so .1 mg might be 30% . This is just a rough example to show the small doses are still huge in their effect and the taper needs to be slower and sometimes less than 10% of the current dose.

28 minutes ago, Jami said:

the smaller the dose the harder to stop

It can be harder as we reach the smaller doses

23 minutes ago, Jami said:

Ure saying it was too tiny to make this happen ? 

Not at all...you jumped off too soon. You needed to go smaller.

31 minutes ago, Jami said:

He’s a Lyme lit dr that doesn’t take insurance . I had reg western blot tests and lab tests and all negative from the hospitals ?

I personally would trust the hospital tests and stop the antimalaria drugs.

[LostInCanada]

3 minutes ago, Jami said:

When I take it cause I can’t taper that yet . I’m really not crazy . But all this makes u crazy . And the obsession thoughts I am getting non stop .

I know you're not crazy...it's WD

Doing a tiny reinstatement can sometimes lessen the withdrawal but the decision is yours. You will heal not reinstating. If you want to reinstate as an option, we need to know the drug ratio to ml. 

[Jami]

Ok . I’m going to stop the meds again . I only took it one time today and haven’t in 3 weeks . I have to try to get through this somehow . ? Even if I had some Lyme it can’t be causing this pain . It’s unreal how there is no knowledge on these drug wds ! It is absolutely terrifying . I don’t think I would want to reinstate at this point . I can’t bare the thought 😢

[LostInCanada]

@Jami 

2 minutes ago, Jami said:

I don’t think I would want to reinstate at this point

I completely understand. For your information, there is a 3 month window for reinstatement with best results sooner than later. No guarantees but if things get worse it is an option up to 3 months. You have come a long way and have survived. One day at a time.👍🙏

[Jami]

One last question, sorry . Can wds hurt ure joints as well as muscles? Like pinch and burn and ache . And my teeth also the nerves in my teeth 😢sorry . Having a ruff time here ❤️‍🩹

[LostInCanada]

56 minutes ago, Jami said:

Can wds hurt ure joints as well as muscles? Like pinch and burn and ache . And my teeth also the nerves in my teeth

Absolutely... Try to have a Epsom salt soak in the tub. Are you able to add magnesium bisglycinate? It helps the nerves. Try a small amount 50-100 mg to see if you tolerate it. Epsom salts are magnesium as well.

[Jami]

I feel si ‘ I was just reading this nice womens post . And she said that if the dr tells u u have Lyme u prob do . But it sounds like wds ? And I am screaming . I am screaming so loud . I’m in such a panic . Becaise I can’t rest . And I can’t take it anymore ! It’s been too much for me . And scary ! Omg ! I’m sorry ! Omg ! The phyc dr just called me and he said to me that he will refer me to someone else for my scripts . Becaise I don’t want to see him anymore Becaise he said that Becaisw I have chronic pain it causes anxiety ! That’s not what happened to me ! I never had chronic pain before this past 4 years ! I never had this pain . And suffering . And I can’t stop thinking of bad things . That’s wrong w me . And I just feel so alone here ! Scared . To death that I won’t be normal again ! That I will

 go through this pain for ever ! I don’t even look like me anymore ! God ! I’m sorry 

[LostInCanada]

The best thing you can do is heal. Don't change the Prozac. Be resolved to stay the course. Try to do some CBT. There are many free online courses as well as books at the library. Look at Claire Weekes Help and Hope for your nerves. Listen to some of her YouTubes. You are definitely dealing with WD. Now just heal. It takes acceptance, patience, kindness and time.

[Jami]

Lost in Canada … please god . ! I can’t breathe . I think I’m going crazy ! I think I’m going crazy . I have been so f gaslit from eveyone . And told so many things . And I have been through so much trauma w this . And it makes me doubt this ! It makes me doubt it when I wake up burning alive . I think I may take a clonidine . I can’t calm it down ! Omg . I’m sorry ! I can’t call

down . I wish there was someone that can take me by the hand and say jami , please , this is wds and it always has been and I won’t suffer for life :! But my mom is dealing w my sister has stage four cancer . And my dad didn’t want to believe me . And I haven’t spoken to him in almost a year ! Parents aren’t married anymore . And I can’t call my sister the one person that I always called ! And I can’t be there for her Becaise I don’t know how to take care of myslef w this . What I’m the hell

happemed here . I am sorry I will let u go now . Thank u do much for being here for me all day long ! 

[LostInCanada]

@Jami this is an iatrogenic illness. An illness caused by doctors and drugs. It is no less than any other illness and maybe worse because there is no protocol on dealing with it. But the fact is you will heal and you have validation here. 

You have to be strong and think positively. Many have been worse and healed. You will too. 

Find things that are positive and distracting. Reading, games, cooking, a walk, music, write in a journal, anything. 

[Jami]

How do I walk and cook and do when we have this kind of pain . And terror . ? I was cooking and starting to clean and shower and I was even going to get my hair done . And then this zyorexa . And I couldn’t . I started to a little and then I got scared and panicked and Frustrated. And tired of waking w little sleep w burning brain . And all of it . Mom knows . She’s been helping me and she’s been here every day almost . But feels so helpless . It hurts her so much . Becaise I am not this person and I have gone through just too much . And I will not go on medicine again ever 

[LostInCanada]

@Jami please post on your own introduction. Simply click the search icon and put Jami in. Then enter. You will see your intro title come up. Click on it and scroll to the bottom where you can add what you wish to say. 🙂

Jami

Posted 38 minutes ago

Lost in Canada ,,, so I am still in benzo wds 6 and half months off the year taper . Of being on the benzo for a total of 1 year w the taper . Amd sufferimg in pain . And anxiety . And I am 6 weeks off zyprexa I told u about that taper . But when I take the 20 mlg of Prozac I am having a paradoxal reaction . It makes me worse about an hour after I take it . I been on that for a years and half now . How do u taper this .? Can I get liquid . I have to start tapering it I don’t have a choice ? Can u recommend how I should do it : is it faster on the begining and slower as gets lower ? Do I get liquid ? I have 10 mlg capsules here and I have 20 . Can I do something w that ? Or should I get liquid ? Do I have to go 5 % drop right from the start . I was on lex for 16 years and I came off to fast if that . While I was in my last benzo wd . And I had severe aka . So severe . That that’s why a year and half ago they had put me back on valume and the Prozac and the zyprexa . I was poly drugged . And now I am just on the Prozac . Off the lex almost 3 years . So does tapering thsi drug is a new drug or does the lex still count that I was on that for so long ? I’m confused . Amy advice would help . Thank u ! 

[LostInCanada]

Jami

Posted 40 minutes ago

Pgad gets worse . And aches and pains flare more when take the Prozac . Please god help 🙏

 

 

[LostInCanada]

3 minutes ago, LostInCanada said:

when I take the 20 mlg of Prozac I am having a paradoxal reaction . It makes me worse about an hour after I take it .

Even with a paradoxical reaction unless a life threatening reaction, it is only recommended to taper 10% off the current dose maximum once every 4 weeks. 

Since you are having severe withdrawals from the other too fast tapers, it is not advisable to taper till some of the other symptoms lessen. I know this is not ideal but you need to stabilize or it could get worse and take longer in the end to heal. 

@Emonda what would you suggest?

[Jami]

I understand . But what if I taper slow to like 10 mlg . And hold for a long time.  ? Can that work ?