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" I love early mornings but only get to enjoy them as I am going off to bed in summer   :lol: "

this cracked me up... it is not even that funny is it ...only to me or am I losing it... I am the same way

what kind of a wild ride is this what we can make up our own lines and other people think it is really funny where any 

normal sort person would not get it at all.  

 

Maybe we need a town or province or state for all of us where we can live with some normalcy where people got to bed shortly after dawn... are up to shop or talk late at night or work even when they feel well enough to. 

I wonder maybe we would need our own country..... 

who would we elect to run it or should we have a co op... 

Sorry Mamma I did not finish reading your post but I have decided I have had enough of this site for tonight... I hope your doing ok... I wish you peace as always.  thanks for the laugh :)

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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MP. Hi again. I so appreciate your comment about friends not calling and taking it personally. I reminded myself about the four agreements one of them being don't take anything personally. I wasn't highly convinced til I read your post and feel far more supported in that stance. Last couple of days, especially mornings, been feeling depressed again and Physically symptomatic, all goes hand-in-hand, but I'm catching myself having a lot of negative thoughts , stinking thinking. For instance, looking for all the negative experiences in my life and making it all about me. Good to have this form here, so appreciate it, thank you.

It's amazing what you're capable of accomplishing in spite of how you're feeling.:)

Thanks for referring to the CBT info on another forum.

Signing off with "my brain it's healing no matter how I'm feeling!"

Best

1989-2004 low doze Xanax nightly.

2004 w/d in hospital c/t with 3 other meds, (trazadone, phenobarbital, risperdal)

Tapered off those meds in 7 months.

2010- bad anxiety so tried Valium and klonopin, back to hospital, came home on nothing, got much better.

12-23-2013- hospital for anxiety, depression,insomnia...used low dose lamictal 12 days with mitrazapine.

Came home on 15 mg mitrazapine, down to c. 10 mg mitrazapine in c. 3weeks, 7.5 mg in 32 days..

Tapered off mitrazapine March 6, 2014.

Took .75 mg April 20 and 1.05 mg April 21st.

Ended taper March 6, 2014.

Take supplements tho not all daily: fish oil, Vit. C., Vit. D, cal/mag, little multi, mag at night,

Been taking homeopathic remedy since June, 2014 via a Homeopathic M.D. (Trained in psychiatry)1-12, 2018 put on 60 mg cymbalta; 150 lyrica for anxiety and 50 mg trazadone. Tapered of trazadone after 3 months on it and tapered off of lyrica in about 9 months. As of March, 2019, only on 60 mg cymbalta.

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Hey Nikki. Yeah, it's a great book. :-)

Sorry for the double post, I tried to delete one. I don't know what happened, its morning, what can I say ha ha :)

1989-2004 low doze Xanax nightly.

2004 w/d in hospital c/t with 3 other meds, (trazadone, phenobarbital, risperdal)

Tapered off those meds in 7 months.

2010- bad anxiety so tried Valium and klonopin, back to hospital, came home on nothing, got much better.

12-23-2013- hospital for anxiety, depression,insomnia...used low dose lamictal 12 days with mitrazapine.

Came home on 15 mg mitrazapine, down to c. 10 mg mitrazapine in c. 3weeks, 7.5 mg in 32 days..

Tapered off mitrazapine March 6, 2014.

Took .75 mg April 20 and 1.05 mg April 21st.

Ended taper March 6, 2014.

Take supplements tho not all daily: fish oil, Vit. C., Vit. D, cal/mag, little multi, mag at night,

Been taking homeopathic remedy since June, 2014 via a Homeopathic M.D. (Trained in psychiatry)1-12, 2018 put on 60 mg cymbalta; 150 lyrica for anxiety and 50 mg trazadone. Tapered of trazadone after 3 months on it and tapered off of lyrica in about 9 months. As of March, 2019, only on 60 mg cymbalta.

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Hi MP.

I've searched twice in the forum you mentioned above re: CBT and can't find anything tho I know it's somewhere, I once saw it.

Can/would you be willing to direct me?  thanks. :)
Best

1989-2004 low doze Xanax nightly.

2004 w/d in hospital c/t with 3 other meds, (trazadone, phenobarbital, risperdal)

Tapered off those meds in 7 months.

2010- bad anxiety so tried Valium and klonopin, back to hospital, came home on nothing, got much better.

12-23-2013- hospital for anxiety, depression,insomnia...used low dose lamictal 12 days with mitrazapine.

Came home on 15 mg mitrazapine, down to c. 10 mg mitrazapine in c. 3weeks, 7.5 mg in 32 days..

Tapered off mitrazapine March 6, 2014.

Took .75 mg April 20 and 1.05 mg April 21st.

Ended taper March 6, 2014.

Take supplements tho not all daily: fish oil, Vit. C., Vit. D, cal/mag, little multi, mag at night,

Been taking homeopathic remedy since June, 2014 via a Homeopathic M.D. (Trained in psychiatry)1-12, 2018 put on 60 mg cymbalta; 150 lyrica for anxiety and 50 mg trazadone. Tapered of trazadone after 3 months on it and tapered off of lyrica in about 9 months. As of March, 2019, only on 60 mg cymbalta.

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Hi MP.

I've searched twice in the forum you mentioned above re: CBT and can't find anything tho I know it's somewhere, I once saw it.

Can/would you be willing to direct me?  thanks. :)

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Here's a link to the site EO.  http://llttf.com/index.php  :) 

 

I am certainly paying for Sunday's loo cleaning! Don't regret it though. One day I will be able to do things without 

being wiped out for days after, but for now it is what it is and I will get on with it. Still ok though, exhausted but ok with it.

Spent yesterday in and out of bed all day and today I am just resting up because I have my hospital appointment tomorrow.

**I am not a medical professional, if in doubt please consult a doctor with withdrawal knowledge.

 

 

Different drugs occasionally (mostly benzos) 1976 - 1981 (no problem)

1993 - 2002 in and out of hospital. every type of drug + ECT. Staring with seroxat

2002  effexor. 

Tapered  March 2012 to March 2013, ending with 5 beads.

Withdrawal April 2013 . Reinstated 5 beads reduced to 4 beads May 2013

Restarted taper  Nov 2013  

OFF EFFEXOR Feb 2015    :D 

Tapered atenolol and omeprazole Dec 2013 - May 2014

 

Tapering tramadol, Feb 2015 100mg , March 2015 50mg  

 July 2017 30mg.  May 15 2018 25mg

Taking fish oil, magnesium, B12, folic acid, bilberry eyebright for eye pressure. 

 

My story http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4199-hello-mammap-checking-in/page-33

 

Lesson learned, slow down taper at lower doses. Taper no more than 10% of CURRENT dose if possible

 

 

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Thanks MP.

Good u r not regretting your recent cleaning tho u r paying for it. I know that feeling. When in the severe wave, I remember what I got done which makes me hopeful. I'm not at "ok" with it yet. Still awfully raw,esp in the morning, like now, must be easier for you to rest these days? Did you feel, at one time, that you'd never get better like others do? Wonder if this is odd or common. :)

Good luck at hospital today.

Best,

EO

1989-2004 low doze Xanax nightly.

2004 w/d in hospital c/t with 3 other meds, (trazadone, phenobarbital, risperdal)

Tapered off those meds in 7 months.

2010- bad anxiety so tried Valium and klonopin, back to hospital, came home on nothing, got much better.

12-23-2013- hospital for anxiety, depression,insomnia...used low dose lamictal 12 days with mitrazapine.

Came home on 15 mg mitrazapine, down to c. 10 mg mitrazapine in c. 3weeks, 7.5 mg in 32 days..

Tapered off mitrazapine March 6, 2014.

Took .75 mg April 20 and 1.05 mg April 21st.

Ended taper March 6, 2014.

Take supplements tho not all daily: fish oil, Vit. C., Vit. D, cal/mag, little multi, mag at night,

Been taking homeopathic remedy since June, 2014 via a Homeopathic M.D. (Trained in psychiatry)1-12, 2018 put on 60 mg cymbalta; 150 lyrica for anxiety and 50 mg trazadone. Tapered of trazadone after 3 months on it and tapered off of lyrica in about 9 months. As of March, 2019, only on 60 mg cymbalta.

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Prayers travel with you today

Current:

Lorazapam2mg: 4/9/152mg - 1.5mg: already sick/nothing noticed. No changes in sleep noted after illness.  

Lamictal: 7/27/13 - 8/6/13: 400mg - 500mg(dr order) mouth sores, headache, cognitive/balance, heart palp...8/7/13 - 8/23/13: 500mg - 400mg; symptoms↓...10/10/13: 350mg; fever/flu-like <2-weeks...12/30/13: 325mg; fever/flu-like symptoms <1-week...2/10/17: 300mg; no significant changes noted. 

 

Discontinued:

Omeprazole: 09/2103 40mg...5/1/14: 20mg... 8/21/14 = 0

Wellbutrin: 11/22/13: 300mg – 225mg...12/6/13 delayed reaction- mood swings, weight↓, heart palp/chest pain, alerting...12/14/13: 187mg; physical symptoms↓, neuro emotions ↑, weight stable...12/20/13: 225mg; physical symptoms return, emotions stable <1-week, weight↓...4/21/14: 187mg; weight↑...5/17/14 (neurologist ordered discontinue asap):168mg; headache, mood swings, ↑weight, sleep flux...5/24/14: 150mg; headache, mood swings, ↓cognitive/balance...6/2/14: 112mg; see above, weight stable, <3-weeks... 6/28/14: 100mg; moody...7/25/14: 87.5mg; family troubles... 8/4/14: 75mg; headaches; moody... 8/9/1450mg headaches... 8/12/14: 37.5mg; 8/17/14: 25mg...8/26/14 = 0

Hydroxyzine; 10mg: 5/20/15 *prn 4/5 times then dc'd. Mood changes/rage 

Buspirone: 7.5mg: 5/20/15 *prn 4/5 times then dc'd. No changes.

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My appointment didn't happen today. I booked it online but when I turned up there was

No record of the booking! We went through mistakes I could have made but I had not made any

Of them. It was obviously a software problem and it 'forgot' to tell the hospital !

Now have a new appointment in 2 weeks but after psyching myself up and being so nervous

I was not happy but have calmed down now.

**I am not a medical professional, if in doubt please consult a doctor with withdrawal knowledge.

 

 

Different drugs occasionally (mostly benzos) 1976 - 1981 (no problem)

1993 - 2002 in and out of hospital. every type of drug + ECT. Staring with seroxat

2002  effexor. 

Tapered  March 2012 to March 2013, ending with 5 beads.

Withdrawal April 2013 . Reinstated 5 beads reduced to 4 beads May 2013

Restarted taper  Nov 2013  

OFF EFFEXOR Feb 2015    :D 

Tapered atenolol and omeprazole Dec 2013 - May 2014

 

Tapering tramadol, Feb 2015 100mg , March 2015 50mg  

 July 2017 30mg.  May 15 2018 25mg

Taking fish oil, magnesium, B12, folic acid, bilberry eyebright for eye pressure. 

 

My story http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4199-hello-mammap-checking-in/page-33

 

Lesson learned, slow down taper at lower doses. Taper no more than 10% of CURRENT dose if possible

 

 

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Oh, to put so much energy to prepare for the appt only for it not to happen due to computer glitch sounds stressful and hugely disappointing. I'm sorry you went thru that. Good that you've calmed down now. Might the next attempt be a tad easier given you went thru this dry run? Wishing you good sleep.

1989-2004 low doze Xanax nightly.

2004 w/d in hospital c/t with 3 other meds, (trazadone, phenobarbital, risperdal)

Tapered off those meds in 7 months.

2010- bad anxiety so tried Valium and klonopin, back to hospital, came home on nothing, got much better.

12-23-2013- hospital for anxiety, depression,insomnia...used low dose lamictal 12 days with mitrazapine.

Came home on 15 mg mitrazapine, down to c. 10 mg mitrazapine in c. 3weeks, 7.5 mg in 32 days..

Tapered off mitrazapine March 6, 2014.

Took .75 mg April 20 and 1.05 mg April 21st.

Ended taper March 6, 2014.

Take supplements tho not all daily: fish oil, Vit. C., Vit. D, cal/mag, little multi, mag at night,

Been taking homeopathic remedy since June, 2014 via a Homeopathic M.D. (Trained in psychiatry)1-12, 2018 put on 60 mg cymbalta; 150 lyrica for anxiety and 50 mg trazadone. Tapered of trazadone after 3 months on it and tapered off of lyrica in about 9 months. As of March, 2019, only on 60 mg cymbalta.

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I'm back from my convention and completely exhausted.  I have picked up a virus and feel 

dreadful. It was amazing though, hard work but amazing! 

 

My head feels like it is going to explode and I am freezing cold/ burning up simultaneously,

along with pain in places I didn't know existed so not up to much but will be back here very soon. 

 

I have a new appointment at the hospital for next week so hopefully that will go better than the 

last. 

 

Away to bed for some much needed sleep, night night everyone. 

 

goodnight-13.jpg

**I am not a medical professional, if in doubt please consult a doctor with withdrawal knowledge.

 

 

Different drugs occasionally (mostly benzos) 1976 - 1981 (no problem)

1993 - 2002 in and out of hospital. every type of drug + ECT. Staring with seroxat

2002  effexor. 

Tapered  March 2012 to March 2013, ending with 5 beads.

Withdrawal April 2013 . Reinstated 5 beads reduced to 4 beads May 2013

Restarted taper  Nov 2013  

OFF EFFEXOR Feb 2015    :D 

Tapered atenolol and omeprazole Dec 2013 - May 2014

 

Tapering tramadol, Feb 2015 100mg , March 2015 50mg  

 July 2017 30mg.  May 15 2018 25mg

Taking fish oil, magnesium, B12, folic acid, bilberry eyebright for eye pressure. 

 

My story http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4199-hello-mammap-checking-in/page-33

 

Lesson learned, slow down taper at lower doses. Taper no more than 10% of CURRENT dose if possible

 

 

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I. AM. SO. PROUD. OF. YOU!

Current:

Lorazapam2mg: 4/9/152mg - 1.5mg: already sick/nothing noticed. No changes in sleep noted after illness.  

Lamictal: 7/27/13 - 8/6/13: 400mg - 500mg(dr order) mouth sores, headache, cognitive/balance, heart palp...8/7/13 - 8/23/13: 500mg - 400mg; symptoms↓...10/10/13: 350mg; fever/flu-like <2-weeks...12/30/13: 325mg; fever/flu-like symptoms <1-week...2/10/17: 300mg; no significant changes noted. 

 

Discontinued:

Omeprazole: 09/2103 40mg...5/1/14: 20mg... 8/21/14 = 0

Wellbutrin: 11/22/13: 300mg – 225mg...12/6/13 delayed reaction- mood swings, weight↓, heart palp/chest pain, alerting...12/14/13: 187mg; physical symptoms↓, neuro emotions ↑, weight stable...12/20/13: 225mg; physical symptoms return, emotions stable <1-week, weight↓...4/21/14: 187mg; weight↑...5/17/14 (neurologist ordered discontinue asap):168mg; headache, mood swings, ↑weight, sleep flux...5/24/14: 150mg; headache, mood swings, ↓cognitive/balance...6/2/14: 112mg; see above, weight stable, <3-weeks... 6/28/14: 100mg; moody...7/25/14: 87.5mg; family troubles... 8/4/14: 75mg; headaches; moody... 8/9/1450mg headaches... 8/12/14: 37.5mg; 8/17/14: 25mg...8/26/14 = 0

Hydroxyzine; 10mg: 5/20/15 *prn 4/5 times then dc'd. Mood changes/rage 

Buspirone: 7.5mg: 5/20/15 *prn 4/5 times then dc'd. No changes.

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Thank you Amy, proud of you too, we've come a long way the last few months! 

 

After a few really bad days and feeling like it would never end (again) , I've felt much better today.

I paid the price for a hectic week and felt really ill. Today felt a bit better when I got up but still

washed out. Was planning on going out but felt weak and when I saw myself in the mirror I was

very pale and drawn so I decided to just do whatever I felt like doing, and if it was nothing then I

would do nothing!  It was a lovely sunny day so I took a huge trunk out into the garden and painted it.

It took forever because my arm was aching but got it done eventually and I'm really pleased with it.

Also pleased that I felt motivated to do it  :)

 

I need to learn to pace myself and not go bananas when I'm feeling better, then crashing because I've

done too much.  This old dog needs to learn new tricks.

**I am not a medical professional, if in doubt please consult a doctor with withdrawal knowledge.

 

 

Different drugs occasionally (mostly benzos) 1976 - 1981 (no problem)

1993 - 2002 in and out of hospital. every type of drug + ECT. Staring with seroxat

2002  effexor. 

Tapered  March 2012 to March 2013, ending with 5 beads.

Withdrawal April 2013 . Reinstated 5 beads reduced to 4 beads May 2013

Restarted taper  Nov 2013  

OFF EFFEXOR Feb 2015    :D 

Tapered atenolol and omeprazole Dec 2013 - May 2014

 

Tapering tramadol, Feb 2015 100mg , March 2015 50mg  

 July 2017 30mg.  May 15 2018 25mg

Taking fish oil, magnesium, B12, folic acid, bilberry eyebright for eye pressure. 

 

My story http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4199-hello-mammap-checking-in/page-33

 

Lesson learned, slow down taper at lower doses. Taper no more than 10% of CURRENT dose if possible

 

 

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Feeling very low today. Had my appointment yesterday with the orthopaedic

surgeon. He was baffled by the damage that was caused when I had my hip

replaced and offered yet another theory. Every doctor has a different

explanation and they are all convinced they are right. He was very

Interested though which made a refreshing change! He didn't have access

to my records so didn't know anything about the changes in the bone.

So we are starting again with new scans and x rays. Ct and bone scans.

He's never seen a case like mine. :-\

 

It is so frustrating because I want to do so much, and physically can do

ver little. My arthritis has flared up and is really painful, I am tired

and fed up with it all. I am crying, but that is not bad thing really. It

means I am feeling! Right now I'm not sure which is worse, feeling nothing

and floating through each day doing nothing, without caring about anything,

or feeling emotions, wanting to do things and not able. The motivation is

there sometimes but my body won't respond. Or my brain shuts down and I can't

think or concentrate I am so tired. I often say that I will cope with any amount

of pain if my head is clear. Today I am sick of the pain and just want to

be rid of it. It would be nice if there was something I could take but all

those psych drugs have really messed me up so I can't take anything at all

without side effects.

 

I am one grumpy old lady today!

**I am not a medical professional, if in doubt please consult a doctor with withdrawal knowledge.

 

 

Different drugs occasionally (mostly benzos) 1976 - 1981 (no problem)

1993 - 2002 in and out of hospital. every type of drug + ECT. Staring with seroxat

2002  effexor. 

Tapered  March 2012 to March 2013, ending with 5 beads.

Withdrawal April 2013 . Reinstated 5 beads reduced to 4 beads May 2013

Restarted taper  Nov 2013  

OFF EFFEXOR Feb 2015    :D 

Tapered atenolol and omeprazole Dec 2013 - May 2014

 

Tapering tramadol, Feb 2015 100mg , March 2015 50mg  

 July 2017 30mg.  May 15 2018 25mg

Taking fish oil, magnesium, B12, folic acid, bilberry eyebright for eye pressure. 

 

My story http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4199-hello-mammap-checking-in/page-33

 

Lesson learned, slow down taper at lower doses. Taper no more than 10% of CURRENT dose if possible

 

 

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heres a *hug* hope you feel better soon

2012 put on Citalopram and diazepam for 3 months for "depression" after filling in a 3 minute form at the doctors, had a massive reaction with panic attacks and extreme anxiety,never suffered panic attacks or anxiety before citalopram.Told to quit cold turkey which led to two hospital admissions during 2012/2013

December for 6 months Seroquel dosage adjusted up and down 50mg ,150mg ,100mg, caused severe tinnitus ,told to quit cold turkey

2013 January for 12 months Lorazapam given to me like sweets,told to quit cold turkey

2013 May Zoloft for 6 months ,told to quit cold turkey, reinstated 50mg tapered 2nd time over a month (to fast but I survived)messed up my sleep

Zyprexa April 2103 5mg until august 2014 ,dropped by doctor down to 2.5mg for one month went well but sleep was very poor for 3 weeks

End of 2015 I had to reinstate back up to 5mg due to constant insomnia that wouldnt go away Started a slow taper and found an understanding doctor who listened to me while I reduced
May 2016 drug free, sleeping and doing well in life again, it can be done http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/12078-finally-off-zyprexa/

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heres a *hug* hope you feel better soon

Thanks for the hug Andy, it is much appreciated  :) .  Feeling a bit better today, not as grumpy. Sometimes

I am a bit embarrassed when I read my whinging posts after a day or two  :blush:

I really do need to learn not to do too much when I have a window, physically it takes it's toll afterwards and 

I might say it was worth it at the time, a few days later I am saying something completely different  :wacko: .

 

I was at my daughters for a couple of days while I was feeling rough.  My littlest grandson sat on my lap and

said "I like you Grandma"  A real honour to get that from him, then today the older one said "I miss you when

you aren't here"  :wub:    Little ones are amazing! 

**I am not a medical professional, if in doubt please consult a doctor with withdrawal knowledge.

 

 

Different drugs occasionally (mostly benzos) 1976 - 1981 (no problem)

1993 - 2002 in and out of hospital. every type of drug + ECT. Staring with seroxat

2002  effexor. 

Tapered  March 2012 to March 2013, ending with 5 beads.

Withdrawal April 2013 . Reinstated 5 beads reduced to 4 beads May 2013

Restarted taper  Nov 2013  

OFF EFFEXOR Feb 2015    :D 

Tapered atenolol and omeprazole Dec 2013 - May 2014

 

Tapering tramadol, Feb 2015 100mg , March 2015 50mg  

 July 2017 30mg.  May 15 2018 25mg

Taking fish oil, magnesium, B12, folic acid, bilberry eyebright for eye pressure. 

 

My story http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4199-hello-mammap-checking-in/page-33

 

Lesson learned, slow down taper at lower doses. Taper no more than 10% of CURRENT dose if possible

 

 

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I'm glad you are feeling better MammaP.  I miss you when you're not here :mellow:

 

Whinging posts are good, helps us all feel not so bad about our bad days and needing to vent, complain and reach out for support.  It inspires me the way you go through a bad patch and then bounce right back.  Of course I wish you didn't have to go through the low days, but the fact that when you do, you admit it and write about it is helpful.

 

Here is a ((hug)) from me too :)

I'm not a doctor.  My comments are not medical advise. These are my opinions based on my own experience and what I've learned. Please discuss your situation with a medical practitioner who has knowledge of tapering and withdrawal...if you are lucky enough to find one.

My Introduction Thread

Full Drug and Withdrawal History

Brief Summary

Several SSRIs for 13 years starting 1997 (for mild to moderate partly situational anxiety) Xanax PRN ~ Various other drugs over the years for side effects

2 month 'taper' off Lexapro 2010

Short acute withdrawal, followed by 2 -3 months of improvement then delayed protracted withdrawal

DX ADHD followed by several years of stimulants and other drugs trying to manage increasing symptoms

Failed reinstatement of Lexapro and trial of Prozac (became suicidal)

May 2013 Found SA, learned about withdrawal, stopped taking drugs...healing begins.

Protracted withdrawal, with a very sensitized nervous system, slowly recovering as time passes

Supplements which have helped: Vitamin C, Magnesium, Taurine

Bad reactions: Many supplements but mostly fish oil and Vitamin D

June 2016 - Started daily juicing, mostly vegetables and lots of greens.

Aug 2016 - Oct 2016 Best window ever, felt almost completely recovered

Oct 2016 -Symptoms returned - bad days and less bad days.

April 2018 - No windows, but significant improvement, it feels like permanent full recovery is close.

VIDEO: Where did the chemical imbalance theory come from?



VIDEO: How are psychiatric diagnoses made?



VIDEO: Why do psychiatric drugs have withdrawal syndromes?



VIDEO: Can psychiatric drugs cause long-lasting negative effects?

VIDEO: Dr. Claire Weekes

 

 

 

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I was at my daughters for a couple of days while I was feeling rough.  My littlest grandson sat on my lap and

said "I like you Grandma"  A real honour to get that from him, then today the older one said "I miss you when

you aren't here"  :wub:    Little ones are amazing! 

 

I can just feel your heart swell!!!  I'm thinking of you, sending good thoughts ( especially to your Dr. so he can figure out what's going on with your hip))  and wishing you some more pain free days. RU :)

Fall 1995 xanax, zoloft. switched to Serzone

1996- spring 2003serzone/ xanax/ lightbox.

b]Fall 2003- Fall 2004? Lexapro 10 mg. Light box /4 mg. xanax.[/b]

2004 - Fall of 2009 10 mg Lex, 150 mg Wellbutrin XL % 4 mg xanax

November 2009- Sept. 2011 10 mg lex., 300 Well. XL, 4 mg Xanax [/b

Sept.2012- July 2012 20 mg Lex 300 Well. XL, 4 mg Xanax

My mantra " go slow & with the flow "

3/2/13.. Began equal dosing 5 Xs /day xanax, while simultaneously incorporating a 2.5 % drop ( from 3.5 mg/day to 3.4 mg/day)

4/6/13 dropped from 300 mg. Wellbutrin XL to 150 mg. Difficult but DONE! Down to 3.3 mg xanax/ day / 6/10/13 3 mg xanax/day; 7/15/2013 2.88mg xanax/day.

10/ 1/2013...... 2.5 mg xanax… ( switched to tablets again) WOO HOO!!!!!! Holding here… cont. with Lexapro.

1/ 2/2014.. tapered to 18mg ( by weight) of a 26 mg ( by weight) pill of 20 mg tab. lexapro. goal is 13mg (by weight OR 10 mg by ingredient content) and STOPPED. Feeling very down with unbalanced, unpredictable WD symptoms.

1/2/2014- ??? Taking a brain-healing break from tapering anything after actively tapering something for 1.5 years. So… daily doses as of 2/2/2014: 18 mg by weight Lex, 150 mg Well. XL, 2.5 mg xanax, down from 26 mg by weight Lex., 300 mg well. XL, 4 mg xanax in August, 2012. I'll take it. :) 5/8/14 started equivalent dose liquid./ tabs. 5/13/14 1.5 % cut.

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Admire you MammaP! You really battle with that negative thinking and not let it get the best of you!

I like the idea of switching channels which is something I must learn to do.

 

I just get sooo stuck and hopefully "this too will pass".

 

Many positive hugs to you!

On SSRI's/SNRI's for @ 25 years, first Prozac 18 years

Took Pristiq last 3 years, had increase in severe migraines

Started tapering Pristiq 100 mg every other day, was ok

Tried Topamax for 2 weeks, but side effects intolerable

Continued taper, able to tolerate 100mg every 4th day

At 6 weeks cut 100mg tab to 50mg & had bad reaction

Only taking 25mg sumatriptan or 0.5mg Ativan as needed

4 weeks later withdrawal worse, where do I go from here?

Stabilizing on 4mg Prozac, NO triptans, NO Ativan

3.6mg hold since June 18

 

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Sorry to hear that you had a really crappy day. It isn't fair. You put so much thought and effort into your recovery that painful days are simply wrong. I do appreciate that you share them tho. We all have those moments and you do bounce back. It gives hope to me that when my crappy days visit.

 

And visits - yay for little ones who make us smile and remind us that we matter.

 

Just a thought about the thought of going back to medicinally induced floating thru life not caring...even when I was floating and "not caring" somewhere deep inside I did care. Somewhere inside I recognized that I was missing something, that something was wrong. Floating wasn't as much who cares experience as it was a defeated one.  

 

I am glad that you have a new doc, fresh eyes, and little ones that appreciate you.

Current:

Lorazapam2mg: 4/9/152mg - 1.5mg: already sick/nothing noticed. No changes in sleep noted after illness.  

Lamictal: 7/27/13 - 8/6/13: 400mg - 500mg(dr order) mouth sores, headache, cognitive/balance, heart palp...8/7/13 - 8/23/13: 500mg - 400mg; symptoms↓...10/10/13: 350mg; fever/flu-like <2-weeks...12/30/13: 325mg; fever/flu-like symptoms <1-week...2/10/17: 300mg; no significant changes noted. 

 

Discontinued:

Omeprazole: 09/2103 40mg...5/1/14: 20mg... 8/21/14 = 0

Wellbutrin: 11/22/13: 300mg – 225mg...12/6/13 delayed reaction- mood swings, weight↓, heart palp/chest pain, alerting...12/14/13: 187mg; physical symptoms↓, neuro emotions ↑, weight stable...12/20/13: 225mg; physical symptoms return, emotions stable <1-week, weight↓...4/21/14: 187mg; weight↑...5/17/14 (neurologist ordered discontinue asap):168mg; headache, mood swings, ↑weight, sleep flux...5/24/14: 150mg; headache, mood swings, ↓cognitive/balance...6/2/14: 112mg; see above, weight stable, <3-weeks... 6/28/14: 100mg; moody...7/25/14: 87.5mg; family troubles... 8/4/14: 75mg; headaches; moody... 8/9/1450mg headaches... 8/12/14: 37.5mg; 8/17/14: 25mg...8/26/14 = 0

Hydroxyzine; 10mg: 5/20/15 *prn 4/5 times then dc'd. Mood changes/rage 

Buspirone: 7.5mg: 5/20/15 *prn 4/5 times then dc'd. No changes.

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Sorry I am not about much. I am away looking after my grandson. Not that he

Needs looking after really, he is capable but under age to be left alone

while parents are away. Also my daughter is poorly and I am looking out

for her too. The good thing is that they live close to each other!

It is very strange being back in Scotland, but not having a home of my own

here. I feel very unsettled and not sure where I belong! I've been away for

6 months and it feels odd not going home to my old place. I'm a bit weepy

and emotional. Not depressed I don't think, just emotional. And very tired.

My joints are really bad and can't sleep. On the plus side its lovely to

see my family again and spend some time with them. :-)

 

I don't have my laptop so it isn't easy to get in and post here , not used

this contraption and miss my laptop, it takes forever to type and the thing

Wants to change everything!

**I am not a medical professional, if in doubt please consult a doctor with withdrawal knowledge.

 

 

Different drugs occasionally (mostly benzos) 1976 - 1981 (no problem)

1993 - 2002 in and out of hospital. every type of drug + ECT. Staring with seroxat

2002  effexor. 

Tapered  March 2012 to March 2013, ending with 5 beads.

Withdrawal April 2013 . Reinstated 5 beads reduced to 4 beads May 2013

Restarted taper  Nov 2013  

OFF EFFEXOR Feb 2015    :D 

Tapered atenolol and omeprazole Dec 2013 - May 2014

 

Tapering tramadol, Feb 2015 100mg , March 2015 50mg  

 July 2017 30mg.  May 15 2018 25mg

Taking fish oil, magnesium, B12, folic acid, bilberry eyebright for eye pressure. 

 

My story http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4199-hello-mammap-checking-in/page-33

 

Lesson learned, slow down taper at lower doses. Taper no more than 10% of CURRENT dose if possible

 

 

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Hello mamma. Glad you're spending time with your family. I hope you feel better soon.

The only way out is through.

 

Aug 2013 - Augmentin leading to akathisia

Sept-Nov 2013 - Citalopram 20mg, severe reaction, off at 5mg. Valium 4mg, prn

Oct 2013 - 5 zopiclone tablets, 7.5mg

End Nov 2013-end Feb 2014, Seroquel, top dose 150mg, off at 25mg

End Nov 2013-early march 2014, Zoloft 100mg top dose, off at 25mg

End Dec-2013-early April 2014, lorazepam 1mg prn

April 3rd 2014 zoloft 5mg for a few days. 18/4/14 - zoloft, 1mg. Came off at 0.35 mg,14th June 2014

29 June 2014 - 1mg lorazepam, last ever

29 June 2014 - med free

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Hi Mamma just checking in I have been "away" sort of from the site for a bit.  Sorry to here things are emotional on your visit home family can do that to us... missing your old place a bit is normal.  Try to think of all the positive things about the new place is the only suggestion I have.  There is always visiting :) I read your last couple of posts and thought since your right there in your old town maybe getting some of your medical files may be a good idea... just a thought.  I have moved a few times in my life and keeping files or getting them after a move has been a huge issue for me.  

I wish you peace.

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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Just stopping by. Felt like sharing a great big mm hug!

Current:

Lorazapam2mg: 4/9/152mg - 1.5mg: already sick/nothing noticed. No changes in sleep noted after illness.  

Lamictal: 7/27/13 - 8/6/13: 400mg - 500mg(dr order) mouth sores, headache, cognitive/balance, heart palp...8/7/13 - 8/23/13: 500mg - 400mg; symptoms↓...10/10/13: 350mg; fever/flu-like <2-weeks...12/30/13: 325mg; fever/flu-like symptoms <1-week...2/10/17: 300mg; no significant changes noted. 

 

Discontinued:

Omeprazole: 09/2103 40mg...5/1/14: 20mg... 8/21/14 = 0

Wellbutrin: 11/22/13: 300mg – 225mg...12/6/13 delayed reaction- mood swings, weight↓, heart palp/chest pain, alerting...12/14/13: 187mg; physical symptoms↓, neuro emotions ↑, weight stable...12/20/13: 225mg; physical symptoms return, emotions stable <1-week, weight↓...4/21/14: 187mg; weight↑...5/17/14 (neurologist ordered discontinue asap):168mg; headache, mood swings, ↑weight, sleep flux...5/24/14: 150mg; headache, mood swings, ↓cognitive/balance...6/2/14: 112mg; see above, weight stable, <3-weeks... 6/28/14: 100mg; moody...7/25/14: 87.5mg; family troubles... 8/4/14: 75mg; headaches; moody... 8/9/1450mg headaches... 8/12/14: 37.5mg; 8/17/14: 25mg...8/26/14 = 0

Hydroxyzine; 10mg: 5/20/15 *prn 4/5 times then dc'd. Mood changes/rage 

Buspirone: 7.5mg: 5/20/15 *prn 4/5 times then dc'd. No changes.

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Home from my visit to family. It was lovely but exhausting and a mix of emotions. I hadnt seen them

for 5 months and they had missed me as much as I missed them. I am their mum and grandma, and had

always been there.  We all got together before I left and had dinner, it was brilliant. When I got back I stayed

with my daughter here and then came home yesterday. The silence is deafening and I dont know what

to do with myself!

 

I've felt ill today an slept a lot of the time. Not sure what it is, I don't think it is withdrawal but not sure.

Everything has flared up and my joints are very painful. Sweating and feel very hot but temperature is low.

Very nauseous too.Hopefully it is just payback exhaustion as usual and will feel better after a couple of lazy days. 

 

Btdt... You can't get medical records so easily here, you have to make an appointment to view them and 

if you want copies have to pay for them, can't remember how much but it is per page and my files are big!

 

I received a copy of the letter from my new ortho consultant that was sent to my gp. I've never had this before,

it isnt done in Scotland so I was surprised but glad because now I can keep those in my own file.  I have the 

appointment for my scan next week then will see him again.  

 

Now I am going back to bed, hopefully I will sleep again.  Goodnight everyone, hope those who are going to bed

have a good night's sleep and those just starting their day have a good one. xx

**I am not a medical professional, if in doubt please consult a doctor with withdrawal knowledge.

 

 

Different drugs occasionally (mostly benzos) 1976 - 1981 (no problem)

1993 - 2002 in and out of hospital. every type of drug + ECT. Staring with seroxat

2002  effexor. 

Tapered  March 2012 to March 2013, ending with 5 beads.

Withdrawal April 2013 . Reinstated 5 beads reduced to 4 beads May 2013

Restarted taper  Nov 2013  

OFF EFFEXOR Feb 2015    :D 

Tapered atenolol and omeprazole Dec 2013 - May 2014

 

Tapering tramadol, Feb 2015 100mg , March 2015 50mg  

 July 2017 30mg.  May 15 2018 25mg

Taking fish oil, magnesium, B12, folic acid, bilberry eyebright for eye pressure. 

 

My story http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4199-hello-mammap-checking-in/page-33

 

Lesson learned, slow down taper at lower doses. Taper no more than 10% of CURRENT dose if possible

 

 

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God love you, Mama!

On SSRI's/SNRI's for @ 25 years, first Prozac 18 years

Took Pristiq last 3 years, had increase in severe migraines

Started tapering Pristiq 100 mg every other day, was ok

Tried Topamax for 2 weeks, but side effects intolerable

Continued taper, able to tolerate 100mg every 4th day

At 6 weeks cut 100mg tab to 50mg & had bad reaction

Only taking 25mg sumatriptan or 0.5mg Ativan as needed

4 weeks later withdrawal worse, where do I go from here?

Stabilizing on 4mg Prozac, NO triptans, NO Ativan

3.6mg hold since June 18

 

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Home from my visit to family. It was lovely but exhausting and a mix of emotions. I hadnt seen them

for 5 months and they had missed me as much as I missed them. I am their mum and grandma, and had

always been there.  We all got together before I left and had dinner, it was brilliant. When I got back I stayed

with my daughter here and then came home yesterday. The silence is deafening and I dont know what

to do with myself!

 

I've felt ill today an slept a lot of the time. Not sure what it is, I don't think it is withdrawal but not sure.

Everything has flared up and my joints are very painful. Sweating and feel very hot but temperature is low.

Very nauseous too.Hopefully it is just payback exhaustion as usual and will feel better after a couple of lazy days. 

 

Btdt... You can't get medical records so easily here, you have to make an appointment to view them and 

if you want copies have to pay for them, can't remember how much but it is per page and my files are big!

 

I received a copy of the letter from my new ortho consultant that was sent to my gp. I've never had this before,

it isnt done in Scotland so I was surprised but glad because now I can keep those in my own file.  I have the 

appointment for my scan next week then will see him again.  

 

Now I am going back to bed, hopefully I will sleep again.  Goodnight everyone, hope those who are going to bed

have a good night's sleep and those just starting their day have a good one. xx

Hi Mamma I always feel let down somewhat and tired after seeing my extended family.  Tired makes sense but mostly I think I miss them and miss not being well enough to keep up with many of them. I truly don't know how you do all you do.  I hope rest is all you need and these new wonderful memories will hold you till the next visit :)

Records can be had here in Canada even if you have to pull the legislative right of freedom to access they can be had...yes they are expensive sometimes large files add up that is for sure I have spent $$$$ on records most are mundane crap...some have been a gold mine for me personally. I like how things are done where you are now sounds like accountability to me. 

One thing that surprised me about my records were the mistakes that were made and I have watched this go down right in front of me ... with a doc who transcribed while I was still sitting there... as he was talking from his notes he made no less then 6 errors ... I corrected a couple and he did not like it so I just let him carry on with his work which seemingly had little to do with me.  

I think having any insurance pay our doctor bill is a mistake as long as we are not paying we are not the customer with any control the insurance companies are. Big mistake. 

 

I hope all goes well with the new doctor and they find some thing to help you pain.  Peace to you. 

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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What a week this has been! Last weekend there was a family crisis and I was not well enough 

to go to Scotland, so I sent for my grandson to come here for a few days. I wont bore you with details

but it was quite traumatic for him and very worrying for me for a while. For the last few days we have

both been staying with my daughter so he could go to work with her hubby to give him something to

focus on.  I hate traumatic events, they leave me a wreck!  

 

I moved here to be closer to my daughter and moved into a house that was 30 minutes away because

she was going to be moving to the same area.  She never found the right place and has now been 

offered one that is 45 minutes away. I feel like I am losing them because it will be too far for them to

visit very often and I am really not up to driving for so long. By the time I have done 30 minutes my

concentration is starting to slip and I am exhausted.  They have said I can move in if I want to so

I don't have to be on my own. I'm thinking it over but don't know what to do. Decisions are never easy

for me, even deciding which jeans to put on leaves me in a tizz! 

 

I was at the hospital today for my bone scan. It was an all day event, first an injection then x rays. Then

return in 3 hours for scans that were to take 30 minutes. They ended up taking 1 1/2 hours because they

kept having to take even more.......then had to go to the loo because all the water they had me drink was

filling my bladder and it needed to be empty. Then back again for more. I feel sick now and hope I aren't

going to be ill tomorrow from the radioactive stuff they injected me with, my grandson is going home and

has to be taken to the airport. Thankfully I wont have to drive but will need to go with him 

 

It was strange having the scan, lying perfectly still for 30 minutes was hard.  I kept feeling that I HAD to

move and my legs kind of spasm and jump all by themselves! I meditated and concentrated on the moment.

In Scotland the machinery and building was much newer and had stuff I could concentrate on, like the clicks

and whirrs, and I counted the nuts and bolts, ceiling tiles and anything else that could be counted, but today in 

Oxford the machine was older, the building was old and nothing really to count but could look at the peeling

paint and listen to the noise. It reminded me of when I worked in a wool mill when I was 16, very briefly. The

sound of all those machines rumbling away....

 

  I have to wait now for an appointment to get the results. They have requested my images from Scotland for 

comparison so wont get to see the doctor until he has seen all the scans and x rays from the last 2 years.

I think it will be quite a while waiting for them to be sent, even if it is electronically because I have so many  :blush:

 

So that is me updated.  As for the taper, a few days ago I thought I was heading for a nasty wave and felt really

ill. I was scared, I'm always scared when a wave hits because I think this is the one that will last forever. 

Then I read the thread about caffeine and remembered that I had caffeine the day before, and lots of it! I never

drink it now and that day had some because I was out and couldn't get decaff. I should have stuck with water 

and will not make that mistake again!  So it isn't too bad, feeling flat and lifeless, tired all the time and not sleeping

well, insomnia is back but things are not as bad as they could be, or have been. I'm not sure if it is withdrawal or

physical, I lean towards physical because of the pain and think I would feel better if I got some decent sleep.

Right now I am going to attempt to get some of that elusive sleep.  Night night everyone  :rolleyes:

**I am not a medical professional, if in doubt please consult a doctor with withdrawal knowledge.

 

 

Different drugs occasionally (mostly benzos) 1976 - 1981 (no problem)

1993 - 2002 in and out of hospital. every type of drug + ECT. Staring with seroxat

2002  effexor. 

Tapered  March 2012 to March 2013, ending with 5 beads.

Withdrawal April 2013 . Reinstated 5 beads reduced to 4 beads May 2013

Restarted taper  Nov 2013  

OFF EFFEXOR Feb 2015    :D 

Tapered atenolol and omeprazole Dec 2013 - May 2014

 

Tapering tramadol, Feb 2015 100mg , March 2015 50mg  

 July 2017 30mg.  May 15 2018 25mg

Taking fish oil, magnesium, B12, folic acid, bilberry eyebright for eye pressure. 

 

My story http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4199-hello-mammap-checking-in/page-33

 

Lesson learned, slow down taper at lower doses. Taper no more than 10% of CURRENT dose if possible

 

 

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Hey Mammap:)

I've just read your whole thread. You are so inspiring n give me hope that it will get better. I wish you luck with your bone density results. These psych drugs tend to inhibit our bone growth, increase fragility n cause osteoporosis. Trust me I know. I was dx with it at 36!! Drink a lot of milk n take a supplement with vitamin d n calcium now if you aren't.

I also completely know the feeling of having to sit still n the muscle tremors n like sudden itches n jolts you experience. I've had many mri scans this year. The last two of my head. They lock you in with a similar face mask like Hannibal Cannibal from Silence of the Lambs. They can take as long as 45 min. Like we need to be constrained. That makes my anxiety even worse. I have one more scheduled this month n then hopefully done.

Do you only experience tremors when you have to lay still? That's my usual time too. Any time I try to focus on relaxin my body, sitting still, going to bed and especially when I attemptt to meditate.

You have come far. You are a great inspiration for me. It's such a harrowing n prolonged withdrawal process n just when you think it's over then it starts over again. Ugh!!

Thank you so much for your updates throughout the whole process. It really provides insight!!

Was on antidepressants on and off from 2000-2007 dx with MDD n anxiety.

2009- had like a physical breakdown. Was exhausted n not functioning properly. Still have depression n had become suicidal. Shrink dx bipolar while I never had a single manic episode. I got at least 8-9 hours of sleep every night. I required that to function since a child. I was admitted to the psych ward immediately. Was then put on a cocktail.

Lithium, lamotrigine, wellbutrin, prozac, depakote, Xanax, trazadone and ritalin.

Went through over 50 shock treatments n put on Invega in addition

Spring 2014, made the decision to try to get off some meds.

11 weeks ago I qt quit invega

10/6 reinstated 150 mg of Wellbutrin

I currently take 40 mg of prozac, 300 mg of lamotrigine, 1 mg of Xanax, 150 mg of trazadone

I am down from three medications. The forementioned others that I was initially put on I stopped prior to 2014.

I am hoping to be med free one day. I do not have any intention of stopping the current ones right now. I'm going to give my body a little more time to adjust.

Progress not perfection!!

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Awww - no. Just no! You are so generous and I can't stand it when you hurt :(  I am stomping my feet and telling the pain to go away. Sending sleepy wishes your way (if it is still bedtime there). 

Current:

Lorazapam2mg: 4/9/152mg - 1.5mg: already sick/nothing noticed. No changes in sleep noted after illness.  

Lamictal: 7/27/13 - 8/6/13: 400mg - 500mg(dr order) mouth sores, headache, cognitive/balance, heart palp...8/7/13 - 8/23/13: 500mg - 400mg; symptoms↓...10/10/13: 350mg; fever/flu-like <2-weeks...12/30/13: 325mg; fever/flu-like symptoms <1-week...2/10/17: 300mg; no significant changes noted. 

 

Discontinued:

Omeprazole: 09/2103 40mg...5/1/14: 20mg... 8/21/14 = 0

Wellbutrin: 11/22/13: 300mg – 225mg...12/6/13 delayed reaction- mood swings, weight↓, heart palp/chest pain, alerting...12/14/13: 187mg; physical symptoms↓, neuro emotions ↑, weight stable...12/20/13: 225mg; physical symptoms return, emotions stable <1-week, weight↓...4/21/14: 187mg; weight↑...5/17/14 (neurologist ordered discontinue asap):168mg; headache, mood swings, ↑weight, sleep flux...5/24/14: 150mg; headache, mood swings, ↓cognitive/balance...6/2/14: 112mg; see above, weight stable, <3-weeks... 6/28/14: 100mg; moody...7/25/14: 87.5mg; family troubles... 8/4/14: 75mg; headaches; moody... 8/9/1450mg headaches... 8/12/14: 37.5mg; 8/17/14: 25mg...8/26/14 = 0

Hydroxyzine; 10mg: 5/20/15 *prn 4/5 times then dc'd. Mood changes/rage 

Buspirone: 7.5mg: 5/20/15 *prn 4/5 times then dc'd. No changes.

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Caffein is a friend and foe for sure! As you know, I'm just now figuring out the foe part. I'm Glad you made the connection between feeling an impending wave and having had caffeine. As unpredictable as withdrawal and the road to recovery can be, I think it's comforting to be able to find a cause and effect relationship among so much ambiguity.

 

I hope sleep comes easier to you soon, mammaP.

1988-2012: Prozac @ 60mg (with a few stops and starts)

Fall 2012: Returned to 40mg after discontinuing and horrid withdrawal 

Fall 2013: 40mg Fluoxetine, added 150mg Wellbutrin to treat fatigue 

Winter 2014: Attempting to taper both (too fast)

April 2014: 9mg Fluoxetine + 37.5 Wellbutrin 

Summer 2014: 8 mg Fluoxetine + 0 Wellbutrin (way too fast a drop)

Late summer/Early Fall 2014: Debilitating Withdrawal symptoms 

Fall 2014 - Wellbutrin successfully kicked to the curb but…

Oct- Dec 2014: Panicked reinstatement of Fluoxetine ->30mg - held for 5yrs

Jan 2021: taper to 20mg Fluoxetine  then tapering by 1mg every 2-3 months

Fall 2022 - held at 10mg->December 2022: 9mg->Feb 2023: 8mg ->March 2023: brassmonkey slide begins: 7.8mg -> 7.6 -> 7.4->2 week hold (April)->7.2->7mg->6.8->2 week hold->6.6-> 1-month hold ->(June)-6.5->4-week hold-> (July)-6.4 (discontinued brassmonkey slide and slowed taper)-> (Aug)-6.2->(Sept)-6.0->(Oct)-5.9->(Nov)-5.8->(Dec)-5.7->wave!->(Jan)-5.8->(Feb)-6mg and holding.

 

My 2014 withdrawal experience: https://rxisk.org/antidepressant-withdrawal-a-prozac-story/

 

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I hope your in bed snoring zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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Hey Mammap:)

 

Do you only experience tremors when you have to lay still? That's my usual time too. Any time I try to focus on relaxin my body, sitting still, going to bed and especially when I attemptt to meditate.

 

That's about it CK, when I'm laid down or sat quiet my leg might jump or my arm will suddenly jerk. When I am in bed

I can be totally relaxed and ready to doze off but have to turn over, no reason just have to and ignoring the urge doesn't work

as you will know! :wacko: .

My scan was a full bone scan of my whole body and was not the bone density scan. I don't have osteoporosis but have what

could be osteomyelitis. I have arthritis and ankylosing spondylitis which means my bones are fusing, the opposite of 

osteoporosis, the soft tissue around joints is calcifying  and turning to bone. The scan will give a picture of what stages 

everything is at and if there is infection that needs treating. 

 

I am now back home again after a few days at my daughter's. I felt ill yesterday and was expecting to be completely wiped

out today but I don't feel too bad!  :D . I was very depressed and kept telling myself it wasn't real. I had to get away from

people and yearned for the sea, I miss the sea so much I was crying because I wanted to sit by the beach :( .

 

I collapsed in front of the tv and did nothing for the rest of the day and actually slept for about 3 hours which is fantastic

for me and feel much better for it. Physically I feel weak and in pain but my head feels better so I am happy with that. I

actually feel like making something and being creative, it's a long time since I felt motivated to do anything and will look

through my stash and see what grabs me. 

 

I've just remembered I bought a bottle of pure cranberry juice yesterday and have been drinking that, maybe that has helped?

Think I will buy more but cant afford to drink it all the time! 

**I am not a medical professional, if in doubt please consult a doctor with withdrawal knowledge.

 

 

Different drugs occasionally (mostly benzos) 1976 - 1981 (no problem)

1993 - 2002 in and out of hospital. every type of drug + ECT. Staring with seroxat

2002  effexor. 

Tapered  March 2012 to March 2013, ending with 5 beads.

Withdrawal April 2013 . Reinstated 5 beads reduced to 4 beads May 2013

Restarted taper  Nov 2013  

OFF EFFEXOR Feb 2015    :D 

Tapered atenolol and omeprazole Dec 2013 - May 2014

 

Tapering tramadol, Feb 2015 100mg , March 2015 50mg  

 July 2017 30mg.  May 15 2018 25mg

Taking fish oil, magnesium, B12, folic acid, bilberry eyebright for eye pressure. 

 

My story http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/4199-hello-mammap-checking-in/page-33

 

Lesson learned, slow down taper at lower doses. Taper no more than 10% of CURRENT dose if possible

 

 

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Hi Mammap,

I'm glad you're feeling better if only for one day. You gotta take what you can get right? Lol.

 

I am sorry about confusing the bone density scan n body scan. I just assumed they were the same n you know what they say about assuming. I do hope it comes back with some positive news. When are you supposed to get the results?

 

As you prolly have read I have osteoporosis n spondylothesis, however you spell it, I also have a mild case of spina bifida. I don't know what n where your pain is but I just want to suggest from my experience. If it is in your back, have you tried an epidural aka nerve block. I did trigger point shots for two years n wasted much money. I found a new pain doc n flat out told him I wanted off pain meds n wanted an epidural. I had a set of three in June of last year and I still don't have pain. They sometimes only last for three months for some but others can last 18 months. Just an idea, but you may have already tried this. I apologize if you have.

Do you experience pain constantly?

Thanks so much for your advice too. I really appreciate it. Hope your good mood continues into tomorrow.

Was on antidepressants on and off from 2000-2007 dx with MDD n anxiety.

2009- had like a physical breakdown. Was exhausted n not functioning properly. Still have depression n had become suicidal. Shrink dx bipolar while I never had a single manic episode. I got at least 8-9 hours of sleep every night. I required that to function since a child. I was admitted to the psych ward immediately. Was then put on a cocktail.

Lithium, lamotrigine, wellbutrin, prozac, depakote, Xanax, trazadone and ritalin.

Went through over 50 shock treatments n put on Invega in addition

Spring 2014, made the decision to try to get off some meds.

11 weeks ago I qt quit invega

10/6 reinstated 150 mg of Wellbutrin

I currently take 40 mg of prozac, 300 mg of lamotrigine, 1 mg of Xanax, 150 mg of trazadone

I am down from three medications. The forementioned others that I was initially put on I stopped prior to 2014.

I am hoping to be med free one day. I do not have any intention of stopping the current ones right now. I'm going to give my body a little more time to adjust.

Progress not perfection!!

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I get that jerking too still all these years out and I get one arm and leg that tremor... when I am starting to do something... reaching extending my leg odd thing is they do this at the same time so reaching will start my leg going or stretching my leg will cause my arm to vibrate. 

 

Whatever it is that is making you feel better Mamma I am glad your feeling better.  I hope these doctors find something to help you feel more comfortable and mobile.  

 

I hope too that if it is the juice helping that you can find a way to keep an ongoing supply... and most of all I wish you peace inside your body mind and soul. B

WARNING THIS WILL BE LONG
Had a car accident in 85
Codeine was the pain med when I was release from hosp continuous use till 89
Given PROZAC by a specialist to help with nerve pain in my leg 89-90 not sure which year
Was not told a thing about it being a psych med thought it was a pain killer no info about psych side effects I went nuts had hallucinations. As I had a head injury and was diagnosed with a concussion in 85 I was sent to a head injury clinic in 1990 five years after the accident. I don't think they knew I had been on prozac I did not think it a big deal and never did finish the bottle of pills. I had tests of course lots of them. Was put into a pain clinic and given amitriptyline which stopped the withdrawal but had many side effects. But I could sleep something I had not done in a very long time the pain lessened. My mother got cancer in 94 they switched my meds to Zoloft to help deal with this pressure as I was her main care giver she died in 96. I stopped zoloft in 96 had withdrawal was put on paxil went nutty quit it ct put on resperidol quit it ct had withdrawal was put on Effexor... 2years later celexa was added 20mg then increased to 40mg huge personality change went wild. Did too fast taper off Celexa 05 as I felt unwell for a long time prior... quit Effexor 150mg ct 07 found ****** 8 months into withdrawal learned some things was banned from there in 08 have kept learning since. there is really not enough room here to put my history but I have a lot of opinions about a lot of things especially any of the drugs mentioned above.
One thing I would like to add here is this tidbit ALL OPIATES INCREASE SEROTONIN it is not a huge jump to being in chronic pain to being put on an ssri/snri and opiates will affect your antidepressants and your thinking.

As I do not update much I will put my quit date Nov. 17 2007 I quit Effexor cold turkey. 

http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1096-introducing-myself-btdt/

There is a crack in everything ..That's how the light gets in :)

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What is with the twitching??! It happens to me too. Just started!! Does it eventually go away? I mean even if it waxes and wanes eventually, I would be happy. I can be completely relaxed in my mind, but my body is just not stopping. Magnesium helps me a bit. I find this most concerning when trying to sleep. :(

2005-Zoloft bad reaction.....2006-Lexepro......2012-Upped Lexepro.......2013-Upped Lexepro......2/2014- Attempted Taper Lexepro...2/2014- Updosed Lexepro.......3/2014-Ativan.....5/2014- CT switch from Lexpro to Effexor.....

5/2014-7/2014-Tapered Ativan from 1mg to .25mg.....6/2014-Bad reaction to Effexor........7/2014- Rapid taper Effexor every other day......7/5/2014- Off Effexor.......7/2014-12/2014 - Ativan .25mg.......12/25/2014 -Taper Ativan by 4% due to paradoxical reaction .24mg...11/18/2015-Taper Ativan 1% CURRENTLY ON: .2376mg Ativan taken in 6 .0396mg doses.

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