jamest: took generic Paxil / paroxetine for 7 days seems like random nerve pain

[jamest]

Hello all i had a bad panic attack one night after using some   strong cannabis.

 

So i ended up complaining to my docs office so for some reason they ended up trying me on this generic paxil from one random panic attack i guess. ill admit i was extra worried for 3 days after i stopped but since went away 

 

i since stopped been 7 weeks off the cannabis.

 

Been 5 weeks off Paroxiltine seems like i have random nerve pains still. i am not sure what the cause is. i hope i am not damaged for life im only 37 really worried. 

The only thing im currently taking is some vitamins one a day  gummies men's vitacraves. 

 

during taking the paxil i noticed pain in my left hand between my thumb and finger next to it and in my left foot. 

as soon as i stopped the paxil that pain went away. within a day. i had  cramping in both legs the glutes which went to one side after a few days then the left side only then after a few days went away i seemed.   

Had blurry vision which seemed to go away  after a few days then one day left eye went black with spots at night

i thought what the hell im gonna be blind. after like 6 hours of sleep my vision came back it seemed both eyes normal. 

 

2 days later had genital numbness on left side i said oh great what now  another crappy problem this is bad but after a couple days it went away.

 

after visiting the er abd a doctor a few times conplaining about tingling in my left arm pins and needles feeling at one point they dont find nothing they check movement of arms push and pull tests nothing. went to an eye doctor they say no health issues  looks ok no stroke stuff.  this was a few days ago. 

 

 last week i noticed tingling prickling pins and needles in finger tips both hands  then it was mostly on right side right hand. a few days later i notice numb right foot coldness. 

 

about 2 days ago i drank a soda in a glass bottle half after eating a steak sub had a burning sensation in both feet. drank a cap of apple vinegar about 25 mins later it went away. now past few days seems like right foot numb tingling really cold off and on mostly at night right glute sore.

 

Not sure what the problem is really sucks hard to work worrying. i go to see a doctor this week again but seems like they woht find anything and will dismiss things and off go.

 

Most people claim the symptoms of the paxil should have stopped it should be out of my system by now  but everyone is different it seems. i hope i am not alone with this 

 

 

 

Edited November 1, 2020 by Gridley

[Gridley]

Welcome to SA, jamest.

 

To give members the best information, we ask them to summarize their medication history in a signature -- drugs, doses, dates, and discontinuations & reinstatements, in the last 12-24 months particularly. In your case it would be very simple: the dates and dosage of the Paxil you took.

 

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You have had an adverse reaction reaction to Paxil.  You are far from alone: we have a number of members who've had adverse reactions to various psychiatric drugs.  An adverse reaction means basically that the drug is poison to your system.  Many people's nervous systems are too sensitive for psychiatric drugs.

 

You will heal, but there's no way to predict how long it will take.  The damage is not permanent.  There's not a lot you can do about the situation, other than taking care of yourself, eating healthily, getting mild exercise and avoiding stress as much as possible.  The symptoms of an adverse reaction are very similar, if not identical, to those of withdrawal, and those you describe--including numbness and tingling-- are typical of adverse reaction/withdrawal.

 

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This explains the healing process really well.

 

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We don't recommend a lot of supplements on SA, as many members report being sensitive to them due to our over-reactive nervous systems, but two supplements that we do recommend are magnesium and omega 3 (fish oil). Many people find these to be calming to the nervous system. 

 

Magnesium, nature's calcium channel blocker 

 

Omega-3 fatty acids (fish oil) 

 

Add in one at a time and at a low dose in case you do experience problems. Get supplements that are single ingredient (not mixed with other types of supplements).

 

53 minutes ago, jamest said:

 

Most people claim the symptoms of the paxil should have stopped it should be out of my system by now 

It doesn't work like that.  The physical drug is gone but the Paxil threw your system into chaos and unfortunately it's going to take a while for it to come back to normal.  

 

This is your Introduction topic, where you can complete your drug signature, ask questions and connect with other members.  We're glad you found your way here.

 

 

 

 

 

[jamest]

Thank you so much i have no idea what to do as i am new to this forum so ill try to provide some extra info                 

 

i obviously have no idea if i have some other health problem my chlorestarol was alil high last year however since this problem i started to avoid fast food as much only using 1 cup of coffee a day cutting sugar down.

 

So September 14th i stopped using cannabis completely .    on sept22 i filled a prescription for paroxiltine 20mg did not start taking it till sept 23 stopped on the 28 i took a half dose the day before the 27th so 10mg that day  because i had read in a lot of places that you can not just cold turkey these type of drugs.

 

So during the presidential debate on the 29th is when i noticed the eye problem next day the genital numbness then a day or 2 later the numbness in the genitals went away the cramps switched to just one side the left leg some things improved.

 

i jumped in a portable hot tub i had one night seemed like  i felt better after however 20 mins later i had a tingling in my left arm which went away about 30 mins later and then i felt really good.

 

I seemed like most of the issues were getting better and i felt somewhat normal however its almost like one problem goes away then another reappears.

 

Most of it is these days seems like nerve type pain sometimes burning skin on the face upper area burning hands  itchy dry mouth pins and needles in the finger tips which seems to mostly have gone away numbness in feet cold feet . went from left side to right side of body now mostly glute pain like numbness and cold foot that sometimes burns mostly on the right foot.

 

Last year my glucose level was hba1c at 5.6 so it almost wouldent make sense that i am severe diabetic however i am no doctor.

 

Also  you or anyone else  know if cbd oil or supplements help at all

 

I hope that helps some of you understand better thanks for listening .   

 

 

[Gridley]

46 minutes ago, jamest said:

i jumped in a portable hot tub

Epsom salt baths are good and a good way to get more magnesium.

 

46 minutes ago, jamest said:

its almost like one problem goes away then another reappears.

That's the way withdrawal/adverse reactions work.  The fact that most of your symptoms are getting better is very encouraging.

 

46 minutes ago, jamest said:

cbd oil or supplements help at all

The only supplements we recommend are magnesium and omegas (links in my previous post).  There are mixed reports on CBD oil.  If you try it, research the brand and start at a low dose.

 

Again, it's very good that your symptoms, or at least some of them, are fading.

[jamest]

thank you so much man i took some magns a half of pill about an hour ago of 500 mg i seem to feel less foot pain.

 

i guess the vitamins i bought do not contain  any mag no iron either now i know you do not advise on tons of supplements but some of those minerals are pretty important cant believe i missed that i  had thought i was buying a complete one last month spent 15$ on something only to find its missing a few.

 

I wonder if the supplement you take would help lower sugar  the magnesium glycinate sounds like it might. obviously we are not here for that.

 

I also feel like i should mention i have adhd and usaully take a stimulant type of drug such as  Vyvanse 20 mg i have not tried to take it since the panic attack however that might help me to not worry as much and be as anxious. 

 

 I am going to have to try so i do not piss my doctor off he probably thinks i am worrying way too much and might get aggravated and does not seem to want to do tests.

 

I also had read some where that if a person is withdrawing from from a substance which like i said i was using cannabis heavy for years with a tobacco wrapper and drinking alot of coffee 5-6 cups a day with 5 or 6 sugars.

 

what i read said that you should not prescribe paxil if that is the case it could be risky and a lot of people also say that paxil is a really old school drug one of the worse of its kind. I guess there are newer safer drugs out there.

 

Most people i have talked to say  also that one panic attack induced by cannabis   should not ever warrant a medication as severe as paxil. they say that most people will recover after a day at most but for me it was like 3-4  days after stopping.

 

 

[Colonial]

3 hours ago, jamest said:

I seemed like most of the issues were getting better and i felt somewhat normal however its almost like one problem goes away then another reappears.

 

Welcome James! 🙂

 

Yes, that is generally the way it is with both adverse reactions and withdrawal, and a pretty good indication you really don't have an actual secondary condition.

Granted, anything is possible but if the "symptom" goes away and it isn't chronic it's probably the med.

I've been having the numbness and pins and needles all week myself and in April JUST the right side of my body went numb.  Crazy right?

Good news is you didn't take it too long. 

Best advice is not to panic when the symptoms come, know that it's "normal" for an adverse reaction, and be kind to yourself and try not to stress.

 

Glad you found us.

Have a better week ahead!

[jamest]

Thanks again for the advice guys couple other questions not to sound dumb does it also cause dry mouth even after sucking back water half the day sometimes i feel dry. also around how long would i need to take these supplements the mag and fish oils i would hope it wouldent be years

[Colonial]

It can, my Wellbutrin WD caused extreme thirst for Me.

My doctor ran a 24 hour urine cortisol test, I produced so much I needed a third container.

 

[jamest]

Has anyone ever herd of numbness and burning in one foot mostly with it feeling cold  which comes and goes So far i have had this problem for almost a week this is on the right side

[Gridley]

@jamest

 

The numbness and burning are aspects of paresthesia, and the cold is body temperature dysregulation.  Both are common withdrawal symptoms.  It can be on one side of the body or both.  I've had both come and go.

Paresthesia: Pins & Needles, Numbness, Tingling, Burning ...

Body temperature dysregulation: fever, chills, shivering, too ...

[jamest]

thanks for the information man I will have to read the article about that topic that seems to be at the bottom of your post I'll have to look into what that says.I'm a fairly skinny and healthy guy so it kind of doesn't seem to make sense that I would have so many problems but then again I don't know anything about these medications I would hope that this doesn't occur for years. ask for myself I'm sure with like a lot of other people too they feel disappointed in themselves that they actually had to take this route and actually had to take a medication that could harm them for the rest of their life.

 

I had one severe panic attack from using cannabis that was fairly strong one night and for some reason I allowed myself to get overly worked up which caused some doctor which I only seen one time to prescribe a severe medicationwhich I have been told from several people that they don't use that type of medication anymore paxil is old school and most do not give it. I mean obviously I have to live with the consequences now.

 

what's crappy about the whole situation is now I don't use anything I am supposed to take ADHD medication but I don't know how that will affect me seeing as how my system is firing differently than it was before I was on this other medication I don't know how my body will react to it but I'm supposed to be taking vyvanse.

I guess my main concern with that is inducing serotonin syndrome however my doctor said he's heard of that but he doesn't think that I have that or that I don't have that now so he doesn't seem too concerned my problem is that I'm concerned with if I start taking that medication oh my body magically go into a serotonin syndrome state. 

 

I mean I am thinking the reason why I don't have that is because I hadn't been able to take my medication for almost a month because I was feeling so crappy and I was worrying if I had started taking that during the time I was coming off the paxil it probably could have been bad for me but I have no idea I think what my doctor was kind of implying is that while you're on paxil and you're taking a stimulant type of medication that could happen but I think he was kind of getting it that it shouldn't happen once you're off the medication. 

so now it's like I'm dealing with the fact that I have adult ADHD have had it since I was a kid in the condition and now I'm not sure how I can manage my condition after the other medication I was taking it before the paxil pretty regularly. 

I am going to have to start trying to take it again and see if it affects me negatively hopefully it will help me more than it will hurt me like it used to. obviously speed can be unhealthy for many individuals but since before I started taking the paxil it hadn't affected me negatively my body seemed too tolerate it . and I have also been told that it might help me become less anxious as well as help me focus so I am hopeful of that. 

 

also as far as the CBD is concerned I picked up some CBD gummies the other day at a shop in my area I want to say that the CBD gummies have kind of made me feel less anxious a half an hour to an hour after I eat one even if I eat just a half of one however a lot of times CBD products aren't very cheap I paid around $15 US for five gummies they say they're all natural and organic and vegan gluten free and non-GMO. made with wild blueberries from maine.

 

they also seem to help a little bit with muscle soreness muscle pain and nerve pain a bit and is not a cure all but it does do a little something I feel. each piece contains 20 mg of CBD in less than .3% of THC I will post a picture of the package in case anyone on here is curious. there is also some cbd products that Floyd Mayweather mentions. those are products that are applied to the skin I believe he must be fairly confident in what he is saying because he wrote a check for $90,000 to purchase several of those products and give them out to people.

 

 

 

 

[ChessieCat]

52 minutes ago, jamest said:

I'm sure with like a lot of other people too they feel disappointed in themselves that they actually had to take this route and actually had to take a medication that could harm them for the rest of their life.

 

I'm not.  We were conned.  I place the blame fully on the pharmaceutical companies.

 

Gwen Olsen was a pharmaceutical representative for 15 years:

 

Interview:  Confessions of an Rx Drug Pusher (51 minutes Gwen Olsen - ex pharmaceutical representative)
 

Video:  Ex-Big Pharma Rep:  We’re Trained To Misinform -The Drugs ARE Dangerous (6 minute video)
 

Video:  Ex-Big Pharma Rep:  Manipulating Doctors to Sell More Drugs (10 minute video)

 

 

Antidepressants and the Placebo Effect by Irving Kirsch (link to full article)

Abstract:

Antidepressants are supposed to work by fixing a chemical imbalance, specifically, a lack of serotonin in the brain.  Indeed, their supposed effectiveness is the primary evidence for the chemical imbalance theory.  But analyses of the published data and the unpublished data that were hidden by drug companies reveals that most (if not all) of the benefits are due to the placebo effect.  Some antidepressants increase serotonin levels, some decrease it, and some have no effect at all on serotonin.  Nevertheless, they all show the same therapeutic benefit.  Even the small statistical difference between antidepressants and placebos may be an enhanced placebo effect, due to the fact that most patients and doctors in clinical trials successfully break blind.  The serotonin theory is as close as any theory in the history of science to having been proved wrong.  Instead of curing depression, popular antidepressants may induce a biological vulnerability making people more likely to become depressed in the future.

Excerpt:

How Did These Drugs Get Approved?
....
The FDA requires two adequately conducted clinical trials showing a significant difference between drug and placebo.  But there is a loophole:  there is no limit to the number of trials that can be conducted in search of these two significant trials.  Trials showing negative results simply do not count.  Furthermore, the clinical significance of the findings is not considered.  All that matters is that the results are statistically significant.
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[ChessieCat]

57 minutes ago, jamest said:

also as far as the CBD is concerned I picked up some CBD gummies the other day at a shop in my area I want to say that the CBD gummies have kind of made me feel less anxious a half an hour to an hour after I eat one even if I eat just a half of one however a lot of times CBD products aren't very cheap I paid around $15 US for five gummies they say they're all natural and organic and vegan gluten free and non-GMO. made with wild blueberries from maine.

 

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There are many existing topic on SA.  Use a search engine and add site:survivingantidepressants.org to the search term.

 

[jamest]

5 hours ago, ChessieCat said:

 

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What do you mean are they positive posts i guess i could check them out i only shared what product i had tried because i was under the impression that most people on here were unsure if cbd helped or not with any issues so i figured id share what i experienced.  

 

But this is not what we are here for so ill stay on topic like i said cbd isnt a cure for anything that is a fact .

 

Also seems to me like you are suggesting that we not place the blame on ourselves? 

 

im not sure what the logic is here but i want to believe that someone should have had common sense and it should not have been us as you say.

 

Believe me I do not understand why a supposed medical professional who was not even an md or a physciatrist  just said well lets try this sounds like a start and not once during the visit said well that type of med could cause damage or harm i was not even told of possible side effects i had to read the paper work from the pharmacy and not once did anything i read tell me that if i stopped it could be dangerous. i had to hear about this through some quora type site about you cant just go cold turkey . 

 

The doctors office did not even tell me how to get off of it when i called i told them i couldent take it anymore and i wanted to stop they just said ok ill tell so and so not even a mention of oh well sir you cant really just do that . It would have been nice if they had just told me i had to wean a curtain way but no.

 

Now its like i am afraid of everything in life more then i ever have been.  brain fog really sucks its like your stoned 24/7 your head isnt clear. i cannot drive more then 30 mins without getting somewhat worried i do my best to over come this.

 

when i go into a store its like weird like wally world i do not panic but i feel foggy the whole time i am in the place i hope it gets better. 

 

what my reg doc kinda said was oh the fda would not approve things that are harmful all meds have some side effects which are fairly minimal that what he said when he was trying to offer me some crap called seroquil or whatever it was a generic called  quietiapine or something and i said almost anything with pine in the end is no good and he did not like when i said that   im actually glad my insurance actually said they could not cover it i guess i was supposed to take one pill at night 

which i did not believe  really would do anything was supposed to keep me calm during the day so im supposed to wake up in a fog did not make sense

[ChessieCat]

31 minutes ago, jamest said:

What do you mean are they positive posts i guess i could check

 

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[jamest]

I just ment do people report anything positive with cbd or is it all just made up gimmicks for sales as far as anxiety or pain does it do anything does it help with anything

 

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[jamest]

yea i seem to get that i do not use drugs i quit i used to smoke everyday then i panic one night then stopped instead of letting my body recover from fight mode i complained to my doctors office of the worry and that lead to someone offering paxil so far its like people say on here waves.

 

Now i know chessie has mentioned anxiety and the supplements. I guess i misunderstood i thought the mag and the fish oil  would help with the nerve pains i was having . i had the cold foot numbness and tingling pins and needles ect.

 

i mean obviously i was anxious aswell and that did not help but its hard when your body wants to do a different thing every other day its like your fine one day then the next in pain or depressed one day you wake up clear head next day foggy one day your up and about at 9 am next day you cant seem to get out of bed till 230 pm.

 

I did not even know about the 10% taper as i was not told by anyone thank god for sites like this i thought what i was supposed to do is drop down to half each day so say 20mg do 10 mg one day then boom your off i had no idea thats where i messed up i did not even think to try 75% one day then 50% next then 25% then stop i mean even that would have prolly saved my body from horrible side effects.

 

I have herd somewhere also that use of cannabis lowers vitamin c and also lowers mag levels i wonder if that could lead to extra anxiety or begin to cause it. 

 

like most say using mag helps i wonder if my levels were really low going down over the years  obviously my docs do hardly any blood work so i have no idea what is low and what isnt .

 

i think i am getting better hopefully i am not screwed up for life.

[jamest]

Month and a half off paxil still have strange symptoms?

 

Just to fill in anyone new reading  i had taken paroxiltine for around 7 days for panic had a bad reaction during tried to get off of it without being told not to just stop cold turkey or how i should get off by a taper i had to guess just to somehow save my own life read up on my own which i still did not understand completely how to taper  more then likely decreased 2 quick so anyways here somewhat of an update

 

 

 

Well it seemed like my nerve pain had went away however my right arm feels like a funny bone hit.

 

The right side of chest under armpit has pain almost like a muscle cramp now still have some brain fog. 

 

Also have red skin mostly upper body i talked to my doctor he said my skin might still have a left over reaction from the yeast rash i had told me to get some seslun blue shampoo i have been trying that not sure if it is really doing anything i used the antifungal cream and the rash under the left armpit has seemed to mostly go away however the red skin sucks.

 

What i notice is that if i wear anything tight or roll sleeves up you can see redness which almost looks like a rash in the area then when u roll sleeves back down it subsides.

 

Some times my face feels like it is on fire try and squeeze a black head say on your nose and it gets really red .

 

I take the fish oil and magneseuim supplement and that might help with anxiety but nothing else.

 

The past 2 days i woke up with really  numb hands mostly the outer 2 seems like once i move them around a bit i snap out of it i guess which is one of the worse problems i have right now.

 

I do not want to get up early mostly at noon and when i do get up i still feel tired lower energy. sucks because i try to goto the walking trail near my home and get excersise almost every day and i miss atleast one or 2 days like im lazy almost as bad as when i smoked lazy.

 

Brain fog and vision issues seems like atleast part of the day i have a fog   thought that would go away after quiting smoking green but not yet vision seems like it is blurry somewhat which i thought should improve somewhat it had before when i stopped smoking for 2 weeks  obviously i am somewhat near sighted. 

 

Funny thing  was my vision when i first stopped the paxil came and went one day without glasses it was like i could see pretty good  fairly clear then  different day was blurry.

 

I also had muscle twitching in my left arm mostly when i rose it.

 

I guess the worst problem i have right now is that pain in my right chest area like rib cage under my right armpit almost seems like a cramp at times.

 

I go to see my primary care doctor in about 10 days i wonder what he will think about my problems he might just assume.

 

He almost tried to put me on a generic form of seroquel called  quetiapine to help me sleep glad my insurance did not want to cover it as i was also told generally of no benefit for sleep more harm then good and i am sure i would have woke up in a fog.

 

Anyways this post was kind of an update sucks that things come and go one problem goes away then either a new issue comes or the old problem comes back.   wish i knew of some things i could do

 

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[ChessieCat]

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[jamest]

1 hour ago, ChessieCat said:

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where do i post this ??? i am not sure did you fix it for me i was just trying to update everyone on the  issues at present im sorry if i screwed up i just feel hopeless sometimes after only a short time of taking the med i cannot believe how severe the effects seem to be still.

 

Ok sorry i did not see the section where it says i can ask others about symptoms i made a mistake thats part of my issue i hope you do not fault me for that sometimes my attention span is short i need to resume my add treatment more then likely i will keep that in mind i was not sure where to post now i think i see it

[ChessieCat]

I merged the new topic to your original Introduction topic.  This topic (where you posted the above) is your Introduction topic and the place to post questions about your own situation and journal your progress.

[ChessieCat]

But I only took it for a Week

[jamest]

Red skin burning foggy blurry vision occasional numbness in fingers pain on right side of body under armpit

 

Sometimes my skin feels like it is burning seems awful red at times  face seems red. when i lift up my arms on a sweat shirt i notice a redness mark which goes away after i lower sleeves.

 

Muscle twitching sometimes and brain fog with like blurry vison at times better other times not so.

 

Also i have noticed a sore type of like pain in the right side of my body below my armpit on like the side of my ribs has not went away for like a week at times i do not feel it as much but seems like most of the day pain in that area. do not know if anyone has had this happen to them or if there is anything i can do i hope this isnt severe.

 

I have been using mag and fish oil.   

 

Bought some selsun blue shampoo like my doc suggested because of the yeast rash i had  he had said there might be some left over infection on the skin so i have tried that it does not seem to be doing much was using antifungal on the rash which is mostly gone however the red skin is not and occasional burning.

 

Also at times i wake up and feel unmotivated.

 

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[jamest]

On 10/13/2020 at 10:56 AM, Hanna72 said:

hi @Nnaa

Yes it is recommended to eliminate both during withdrawals. I see you are tapering paxil, and from my own experience with tapering that drug, I would highly recommend avoiding both alcohol and coffee.

All the best to you.

 

 

Wow i had tried a beer about 2 weeks ago a 16 oz did not feel too bad but i think later at night i had a headache good to know i had no idea

 

wow i did not know about this i was drinking coffee atleast one cup a day  today i had 2 i guess i will have to cut it out sucks because the weather is getting cold i wonder if hot coca is acceptable or tea?

 

 

[Gridley]

42 minutes ago, jamest said:

hot coca is acceptable or tea?

It's difficult, I know, the things that we have to give up.  Cocoa contains sugar and caffeine from chocolate, and regular tea contains caffeine.  

[ChessieCat]

  

47 minutes ago, jamest said:

Wow i had tried a beer about 2 weeks ago a 16 oz did not feel too bad but i think later at night i had a headache good to know i had no idea

 

wow i did not know about this i was drinking coffee atleast one cup a day  today i had 2 i guess i will have to cut it out sucks because the weather is getting cold i wonder if hot coca is acceptable or tea?

 

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I drink decaf coffee or coffee substitute.  Chocolate and tea both contain some caffeine.  Also cola drinks and energy drinks contain caffeine too.  Mountain Dew contains caffeine.

 

From https://www.caffeineinformer.com/caffeine-content/mountain-dew

Mountain Dew is a popular carbonated drink made by PepsiCo. What surprises many people is the level of caffeine in Mountain Dew - at 54mg it is significantly higher than Coca-cola. 

 

alcohol-and-beer

  

And an example of how it affected one member:

 

On 7/6/2020 at 5:50 AM, brassmonkey said:

 

Some months after going off, some people report a serious wave of bad symptoms.  This is about the time that people are feeling very comfortable with their recovery, not realizing their nervous systems are still very sensitive.  This can cause them to get careless in their actions.  Drinking alcohol is a major factor in excellent recoveries getting derailed.  We just had a case of a member who has been drug free for several years with an excellent recovery underway.  They had a couple of drinks over the weekend and tripped off their symptoms all over again.  Luckily, it cleared in a few days, but that is not always the case. We have also found that doing a course of antibiotics can trigger a wave, as can the addition of non-psychiatric drugs. There is further discussion on this elsewhere in the forum. cipro-levaquin-azithromycin-z-pack-and-other-antibiotics

 

 

 

Edited November 15, 2020 by ChessieCat

[jamest]

1 minute ago, Gridley said:

It's difficult, I know, the things that we have to give up.  Cocoa contains sugar and caffeine from chocolate, and regular tea contains caffeine.  

 

So my guess would be sugar is not good either so drinking a soda is not good at all especially one in a glass bottle wow this sucks.

 

i guess ill have to just stick to charmomile tea or sleepy time.

 

Damn now i feel like if i eat a certain food ill be screwed.

 

I mean is it possible to just fight threw the symptoms till my body eventually says sugar or coffee is normal one beer is ok this other pain is not ect           nothing should kill me right?

 

Or do i just got to wait it out till most of my symptoms go away to try and consume regulary again?

 

[jamest]

7 minutes ago, ChessieCat said:

  

 

There are many existing topics on SA.  Use a search engine and add site:survivingantidepressants.org to the search term.

 

caffeine-in-coffee-or-tea-tolerance-issues

 

I drink decaf coffee or coffee substitute.  Chocolate and tea both contain some caffeine.  Also cola drinks and energy drinks contain caffeine too.  Mountain Dew contains caffeine.

 

From https://www.caffeineinformer.com/caffeine-content/mountain-dew

Mountain Dew is a popular carbonated drink made by PepsiCo. What surprises many people is the level of caffeine in Mountain Dew - at 54mg it is significantly higher than Coca-cola. 

 

alcohol-and-beer

  

And an example of how it affected one member:

 

 

 

thank you so much for your help i feel stupid  i have started to read what others have posted on here.

 

Do you happen to know if my stimulant med would be safe or could it possibly kill me

[ChessieCat]

6 minutes ago, jamest said:

So my guess would be sugar is not good either so drinking a soda is not good at all especially one in a glass bottle wow this sucks.

 

eating-food-as-an-activating-factor-increasing-anxiety-or-symptoms

 

7 minutes ago, jamest said:

i guess ill have to just stick to charmomile tea or sleepy time.

 

Decaf coffee is readily available these days even freshly brewed coffee.  And I can easily find coffee substitutes in my local supermarket.

 

6 minutes ago, jamest said:

Do you happen to know if my stimulant med would be safe or could it possibly kill me

 

I think it would be unlikely to kill you.  You may experience side effects from taking it.  And withdrawal effects if you reduce/stop it too quickly.

 

12 minutes ago, jamest said:

Damn now i feel like if i eat a certain food ill be screwed.

 

I mean is it possible to just fight threw the symptoms till my body eventually says sugar or coffee is normal one beer is ok this other pain is not ect           nothing should kill me right?

 

Or do i just got to wait it out till most of my symptoms go away to try and consume regulary again?

 

Different members find that they react differently to different things.  And sometimes they can tolerate something and then suddenly they cannot tolerate it.  I've recently not be able to tolerate eating egg tomatoes 4 days in a row but I can eat the ordinary tomatoes.

 

I don't seem to have any difficulty with sugar but some members do have issues.  Even doing too much exercise can increase some members' withdrawal symptoms.

 

The best thing to do is to keep a record of what you do, eat and drink so that if you find that you feel worse you can look back and see if there may be something that caused it.

 

See the sub topics linked in Post #1 of this topic especially the last 3: 

are-we-there-yet-how-long-is-withdrawal-going-to-take

[jamest]

1 hour ago, ChessieCat said:

 

eating-food-as-an-activating-factor-increasing-anxiety-or-symptoms

 

 

Decaf coffee is readily available these days even freshly brewed coffee.  And I can easily find coffee substitutes in my local supermarket.

 

 

I think it would be unlikely to kill you.  You may experience side effects from taking it.  And withdrawal effects if you reduce/stop it too quickly.

 

 

Different members find that they react differently to different things.  And sometimes they can tolerate something and then suddenly they cannot tolerate it.  I've recently not be able to tolerate eating egg tomatoes 4 days in a row but I can eat the ordinary tomatoes.

 

I don't seem to have any difficulty with sugar but some members do have issues.  Even doing too much exercise can increase some members' withdrawal symptoms.

 

The best thing to do is to keep a record of what you do, eat and drink so that if you find that you feel worse you can look back and see if there may be something that caused it.

 

See the sub topics linked in Post #1 of this topic especially the last 3: 

are-we-there-yet-how-long-is-withdrawal-going-to-take

 

Yea i have went walking atleast 5 days out of the week i have been doing pushups and some light bench pressing i wonder if like you said that my be aggravating everything more maybe i should slow down .

 

also the pain on the right side of chest under arm pit it comes and goes do you know if that is common.

 

thanks again for the info ill check that post down near the end as you say

[jamest]

I have read all of that info however nothing says a time line no info of when anyone can resume life as normal so i guess no way of telling.

 

i get what is said so i guess there is no way to know so from what i read i could stop drinking soda then get better then next time i try it in several months have a bad reaction?

 

I guess i was kind of hoping that when or if most of this stops that i could use coffee again and soda.

 

Also what i was implying is that if i do not take my adhd med my doctor might be upset and throw me off of it so what i was asking is if i start to take it again will it make these symptoms from coming off the paxil increase to the point where i could end up in the hospital or some serious or generally no? 

 

I was kind of worried about that serotone syndrome. My doctor said he has heard of it and  i do not seem to  have that now.

 

So guess my question was would it be safe to take just enough to not be thrown off and piss the guy off would i should not develope that now that i am off the paxil correct?

[brassmonkey]

Reading through your thread I am seeing that there are some important details missing. 

 

What happened during the five days you took paxil? Why did you quit?

 

How long have you taken Vyvanse? When did you stop taking in in relation to the paxil? What happened when you stopped taking it?

[jamest]

Ok i know its getting late so ill try not to keep you up but you have been helping.

 

So here it goes i took paxil for almost 7 days around the end of september then i stopped                         

 

at the time i was prescribed the adhd medication since around the 14th of the month of sept when i had a panic from the weed i had stopped taking the vyvanse i was supposed to be taking that every day i had only been using it as needed if i do not have any in my system they will take me off of it i realize they are worth $ and can be abused obviously i do not sell things to people i take the stuff when needed legally.

 

Nothing seemed to happen at all because i am not really dependent on it. i usually just feel normal.

 

however like i say i get swabbed for it so if i do not take the stuff they might throw me off of it so i was kinda wondering if it would be safe for me to continue the as needed so atleast when i go in and see the doc i have some level.

 

My main concern is mostly because where i am still having symptoms after stopping the paxil weeks later would my normal adhd med cause a bad reaction like serotonine syndrome even though i stopped the paxil ?

 

Also i had a relative who was on paxil for 14 days and they have said that they did a complete cold turkey and had no problems. they eat like normal drink and such. obviously everyone is different.

 

My last question is where as thought my symptoms are kinda mild  and i did not take the drug that long the paxil and i have been drinking soda and atleast one cup of coffee a day during these weird discontinuing times with so far no severe health issue should i just continue and hope that things stay mild and mostly go away?

 

i know you said one day something could come back really strong or one day i could try and have a shot of booze and then hell break lose.

 

I suppose my worst problem is red skin mostly on face and hands and chest and sometimes burning feeling on the face and occasional numbness in the hands when i wake up and once in awhile twitching muscles? 

 

One again thank you for the input i know you are not a doctor and i seems like people come on here think they are 100% better then disappear so its hard to find out how they dealt with a problem or side effect which does not help others i could be searching for hours and not find stuff out because the person who had a good answer  just left the site once they felt like they got magically better .

 

I know you said things like coffee and soda could trigger symptoms again but what if i already am using those items then i am already triggered No? based on the fact that i do not seem to have to many symptoms left or that they are not 100% severe is why i am asking about continuing to drink the cup of coffee a day and maybe a couple sodas like i been having?.

 

Also with the speed drug i have not touched the med for atleast 2 months vyvanse but like i said i have been swabbed about a week ago when i saw my doctor he might want to do it again when i see him in 10 days i was thinking i could wait till 5 or 4 days before then try to take it again?   I atleast told him the truth that i could not take it but once because of thepaxilr med symptoms trying to come off of it so like most have told me i should be ok they should not kick me off.

 

I guess what im saying is if i cut out sugar and caffiene the symptoms of getting off paxil  will not magically go away right?

 

Your point was that if i had stopped everything and was only drinking say water everyday then i decided to pick up a can of soda again randomly one day i might have a problem with symptoms coming back possibly returning?

 

Last thing also is that my symptoms should not get any worse more then likely the opposite keep getting better ?

 

[ChessieCat]

Are you under a treatment order?