Roxyrich: adverse reaction to prozac

[Roxyrich]

Something else, I seem to get dr in the afternoon, even if it's been a good day. It's worse if I go to the supermarket, everything seems distorted. It's quite unnerving, feels like when you have flu.the longer I'm out the scarier it gets.

[AliG]

Try not to dwell on your symptoms . That will make it worse.  These symptoms are common in withdrawal . Try to get on with your life , and don't  overthink this !

[Colonial]

.(.... It's worse if I go to the supermarket, everything seems distorted. It's quite unnerving,...)

 

 

​You need to stay away from FLUORESCENT LIGHTING.  Fluorescents lights turn on and off up to a thousand times in 1.5 seconds.  I have never been able to be under them for an extended period of time or they will give me a seizure.  Has nothing to do with the WD for me, it's just a neurological weak point for me.  Many people with epilepsy can't be under them.

 

That being said, WD is a host of independent but interrelated neurological events.   The fluorescent lighting may be just too much for you in your weakened state.

[direstraits]

that's funny you mention fluorescent lights//I've always hated them...even in grade school..felt like they were over stimulating to my nerves

[Roxyrich]

That might explain why I'm alright with my house lights,good call.

Your right Ali , I'm trying to ignore my symptoms, but my old life is still haunting me.

[Colonial]

Here is another person's account of their troubles with the lights.  As you can see, they are pretty close to WD symptoms.

 

 

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Neurology/Fluorescent-lights-effect/show/1661148

 

And from wikipedia:

 

One paper suggested that in rare cases, fluorescent lighting can also induce depersonalization and derealization, subsequently, it can worsen depersonalization disorder symptomology.^[33]

 

^{https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorescent_lamps_and_health}

[Farout]

.(.... It's worse if I go to the supermarket, everything seems distorted. It's quite unnerving,...)

 

 

​You need to stay away from FLUORESCENT LIGHTING.  Fluorescents lights turn on and off up to a thousand times in 1.5 seconds.  I have never been able to be under them for an extended period of time or they will give me a seizure.  Has nothing to do with the WD for me, it's just a neurological weak point for me.  Many people with epilepsy can't be under them.

 

That being said, WD is a host of independent but interrelated neurological events.   The fluorescent lighting may be just too much for you in your weakened state.

 

Well that's just answered a whole lot of WD weirdness for me.  Thanks!  In a wave I can get quite bad in the office and then feel fine the second I walk out to get my lunch.

 

How are you doing Colonial?  I read your thread last night.  Tough times, hey?  

[Colonial]

(....Well that's just answered a whole lot of WD weirdness for me.  Thanks!  In a wave I can get quite bad in the office and then feel fine the second I walk out to get my lunch....)

 

Hey Farout,

 

 If you HAVE to work with them, their are a type of sunglasses that can help block out the certain frequency that's literally giving you the "mini seizure".  Even way before I tried to stop the meds, there was one store I couldn't be in for more than 20 minutes, or I would forget how I got there, why I was there, etc.  I had one episode that gave me COMPLETE AMNESIA for half an hour...I NO LONGER SHOP THERE...LOL.

 

Today was a little better.  Only 3 really bad hours!  The rest of the day was just mild to moderate symptoms.  Still not good but not the horror it had been.  

[Farout]

Glad to hear you are having a reprieve of sorts.

 

I can tell that I have moved on a lot recently. I really feel like the residual fog is lifting. It's good.

[Roxyrich]

That's great news farout, I've had a good day today.

I woke this morning, quite depressed , but I went out with my girlfriend, and felt good. I just hope I didn't over do it.

Can anyone explain why my biceps hurt like I've been training, I've wonderd if it was a lack of salt?

I'm taking magnesium, which helps a little, been like this for a couple of weeks on and off.

[Colonial]

(...Can anyone explain why my biceps hurt like I've been training, I've wondered if it was a lack of salt?..)

 

 

I don't know but I have been craving salty foods for 10 days now...

[Roxyrich]

I'm avoiding fast foods , and junk ,so maybe I'm low on salt.

Years ago if I over excerted myself, especially in hot weather, I used to get cramps, also low salt , from sweating. It's quite painful.

[Roxyrich]

Depression again today, I would have said 2 months ago, I would have preferred it to physical pain , but I think it's worse , everything seems pointless. I hope this doesn't go on too long. very hungry again today , maybe a connection?

[Djones1984]

Hi roxy, I am sorry you are suffering I have never been able to handle florescent lights either and it just gets worse in withdrawl with a highly sensitized cns. I also get all kinds of pain in my legs and arms it comes and goes. You will get through it and it's all realted to cns stuff.

[Roxyrich]

Thanks dj,yeah all kinds of crazy symptoms, w/d's a monster.

[Roxyrich]

I'm currently suffering from persistent heartburn, does anyone know if I can take zantac, or will it stop my propranolol from working.

I know it's not a cure , and am currently working on my diet , but it's starting to damage my esophagus, so I need to halt it to allow some healing, thanks.

[Colonial]

The best thing you can do is RAISE the HEAD of your bed 6 inches.  Since I did that, all of my symptoms disappeared in 7-10 days,and I haven't needed as much heartburn meds.  I have a hernia, and I suffered for 5 years with difficulty breathing and heartburn and was on TWO Daily meds until I did this.

 

It will seem a little strange the first week, but it keeps you elevated just enough to keep the acid down while your sleeping.  I used THREE  2 by 4's, screwed them into each other, and then screwed it into the bottom of the frame.  You will also learn you can't sit at the bottom of your bed our you will flip it, but it is a small price to pay for staying drug free and avoiding throat cancer!

 

Also, and you may know this, but they recommend NOT eating within 3 hours of laying down.

 

If 6 inches is too much to start, do 4 inches for a week, and work your way up.

 

Here is a picture of mine, sorry the light isn't too good but you get the idea, the 2by4's run along along the frame vertically, and you can have them cut to the exact length so they don't fall thru. Then you put the BOX SPRING down first, since it's firm it handles it well.

 

 

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/wl/t35.0-12/12822837_1523212417975089_57551194_o.jpg?oh=1165723599eede978c9bd6d2e03551cd&oe=56E31A24

 

And some other sites:

 

http://gerd.s3.amazonaws.com/acidreflux/Elevated-Bed-For-Acid-Reflux.html

 

http://www.wikihow.com/Relieve-Acid-Reflux-with-a-Raised-Bed

 

 

The trick is to raise the mattress WITHOUT you having to be bent.  This avoids your back being bent all night.

[Roxyrich]

Wow , those tips are really good col.I'm gonna raise my bed tomorrow and follow the link. It's got to the point where my solar plexus hurts when I move.on top of everything else I just don't need it.

How you doing.

[Colonial]

I, for one, was shocked at how well and how fast it worked for me.  Most of my symptoms were gone in 10 days and after 3 weeks, no more meds for the most part.

 

Well, I was doing ok until about 5pm, then I got shaky and a little anxious.Now I got a bad headache...

 

Just another day at the office for us top secret superhero spies..

[crhawk]

The fluorescent lights do me in too - within 5 minutes.  I am unable to go to the grocery store, etc. at all.  Target is really bad.  I literally have a 5 or less minute window.  Then it's like a bomb goes off.  Instant brain fog/depersonalization/confusion....I wonder if this goes away???

 

Rich & Colonial, I also suffer from really bad GERD.  I typically take aciphex twice daily.  I have ceased taking it since all this started since I read that these types of meds/PPIs can have negative effects.  Ive changed my diet quite dramatically (mostly because I can barely eat as it is!), but I have definitely noticed that my GERD induced abdominal pain has returned and is severe at times.

 

Colonial, that is a good tip.  My docs have recommended that to me in the past, and I admit, I've just never done it.  Now might be the time!

[Colonial]

(....The fluorescent lights do me in too - within 5 minutes.  I am unable to go to the grocery store, etc. at all.  Target is really bad.  I literally have a 5 or less minute window.  Then it's like a bomb goes off.  Instant brain fog/depersonalization/confusion....I wonder if this goes away???...)

 

If it's from the temporary WD It should in time.  The good news is once you know what is doing it, you can stay away from the stores for now.  Otherwise, you just keep destabilizing yourself and make your recovery longer.

 

So just add the fluorescent lights to the list of things you need to temporarily give up so as not to aggravate your symptoms and prolong your suffering. 

(...Coffee,sugar, beer... TARGET....,  )

 

But I think it's a HUGE RELIEF to people when they find out it's the lights, and not them just having random "symptoms".  And if you really love the stores, you CAN purchase the special sunglasses that block out the worst of the light

 

 

  (...My docs have recommended that to me in the past, and I admit, I've just never done it.  Now might be the time!...)

 

I have to admit the 6 inches all at once was too funny, was scared to death the first few nights.  Start with 4 inches if its too much for a few weeks,and then up it if your symptoms aren't too bad. But if you're really suffering go right to 6.

[Roxyrich]

Well , I thought my mornings were starting to improve ,but the last 2 mornings, I've woken at 4am in panic and confusion.

It wouldn't be so bad, if I could get back to sleep.

I haven't suffered that badly from cortisol waking. I hope this isn't my new future.

[AliG]

Roxy.            I'm thinking if you keep notes on your symptoms and then forget about them ,  you will progress further in a shorter amount of time.  Constantly dwelling , and focusing on each little thing , is just going to draw out this process .   Write down your symptoms and then try to forget about  them . Move on with your life.  Practice extreme self- care, and then " go with the flow " .  Read  " Symptoms & Self-Care ".

Waking at 4 am , is not the worst thing.  At least you are sleeping .  Perhaps read these links :

Non-drug techniques to cope with emotional symptoms

What is withdrawal syndrome?

Best wishes ,

Ali

[Roxyrich]

I suppose you're right Ali , but I am writing it here , and living my life.

I guess I need validation, that everything is ok.

Plus, it's the only place to get good solid advice.

[Colonial]

What time are you falling asleep before you wake at 4am?

 

And what time is sunrise this week where you are?

[Roxyrich]

I fall asleep around 10.30 to 11pm , the sun doesn't come up till 6.30 am at the moment. It's definitely cortisol, because I wake up tingling and anxious. I know lots have been through it, but up till now I've only had it a couple of times, I thought I'd got away with it.

It wouldn't bother me , if I could get back to sleep. never mind.

I raised my bed last night, we'll have to see how it goes. Also eating really bland foods . It's weird, I was eating non stop 2 weeks ago, now it's slowed right down . I think that's why I've got excess acid.

How are you today.

[AliG]

You are getting validation. You are going ok . I'm not sure why you are resistant to that .

[Roxyrich]

Ok

[Colonial]

That seems about the same pattern for a lot of people.  Only sleeping about 4 and a half to 5 and a half hours and waking up with the cortisol rush.  Don't be surprised if you have nightmares around the time of waking either, all part of the same deal.

 

I'm actually doing  A LOT better yesterday and today!  Still have the weird nightmares in the morning, some brain for for an hour or 2 in the afternoon and some flu like symptoms, some brain zaps, but something is definitely better, thank God!  Don't feel like I am dying at least! 

[Roxyrich]

Good news col.

[ChessieCat]

When I'm having a tough day I think to myself, this is how I am AT THIS PRESENT TIME.  That way it It helps me to accept what is happening, or not happening, and gives me hope for improvement at a later time rather than filling me with dread that things will be like this forever.

[Roxyrich]

Thanks cc.

I'm back in a wave, but not bad I've had 5 ok days,apart from the insomnia and heartburn. I'll try to take your advice cc to get through this.

[Roxyrich]

I'm still having problems with my stomach. has anyone come across bloating after eating.

Over the past few days, I've been eating less and less, and my acid is crazy.

Has anyone had this problem, and how did it resolve .

I've been talking antacids, but it's not really helping, I'm tempted to take renitadine, but not sure how it will affect w/d symptoms.

It seems to have started about 2 weeks ago, changed my diet to lean meat and veg , but it's not helped.

Just curious where to go from here.

[Colonial]

You know...

It's almost as if we're TWINS...

Honestly...

I do go through periods of, what I believe is WD induced gastrointestinal issues too.

It could be we have a weak point for it anyway, but then your body has serotonin all through your body, so it will affect your stomach too.

With me, it acts up about a month into the symptoms after a med drop, so that can only happen so many times in a row before you can equate it to the WD

And, like you it's when I'm eating less, which, in fairness, can give anyone acid, but if the reason your not eating is the WD then it's not a stretch to assume that both the nausea and the acid are both symptoms of a bigger WD problem.

Milk and bread is the only thing that helps soak up the acid for me, and you don't have to have a lot of it at any given time.

One or two swallows of bland rye bread twice an hour helped me, with a swallow of milk here and there in between. 

 

Can't advise you on the meds.

Did you raise the bed yet?

[Roxyrich]

Yeah, I raised it 6 inches, and make sure I lay on my left side , but it's still there.

I'm more concerned with the bloating, I'm literally eating tiny meals, and blowing up like a balloon.

I've been taking rennie deflatine, it helps, but I don't want to keep taking them.

[Roxyrich]

Has anyone had success with apple cider vinegar and bicarbonate of soda, I want to try it, but as usual I'm a little tentative.

I have a pain in my sternum from reflux , and read that this is a miracle cure,well sort of.