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Has anybody tried lactium, specifically Swanson’s Anti stress women’s formula?

ive read some old posts on it. Kind of a mixed bag. It seems pretty benign. Wondering if it would be ok to use while tapering lexapro and taking Ativan and lunesta at bedtime. Thanks. Lg

Lex  4.3mg,  3/2/18  Ativan ,5 mg,  lunesta 2 mg , toprol  25 mg                                                            

 

Oct 16-28 2018 C/O to 19 mg V from 1.5 mg Ativan, 1.3 mg lunesta 

jan 22 2019- 11 mg V

jan 23 - pneumonia, 2 AB’s. 

    Hold taper

july 5- 10.72 V

July 6- 11 mg V- ugly bad

july 11- 10.72 mg V, 4.3 lex, 

              25 mg toprol

 

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29 minutes ago, Littlegrandma said:

Has anybody tried lactium, specifically Swanson’s Anti stress women’s formula?

ive read some old posts on it. Kind of a mixed bag. It seems pretty benign. Wondering if it would be ok to use while tapering lexapro and taking Ativan and lunesta at bedtime. Thanks. Lg

 

Hello. This seems mild and benign LG. The words "anti stress formula" perked my ears up with suspicion. But it seems to only contains casein - milk protein peptides. It should be nothing beyond a condensed component of what you would find in a glass of milk.

 

Whether it would work any better than a glass of milk is another question, but it looks safe to try. Start small and take care 

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Thanks James 

my mother swears by a glass of milk at bedtime. If she forgets, she usually can’t fall asleep. So she gets up, drinks it with a cookie and nods off. The sugar in the cookie would keep me awake but it works for her. 

Most supplements I have tried, failed me, with the exception of the recommended mag and omega. Don’t really want to send more money to Iherb unnecessarily. 

I appreciate your time. Thanks lg

Lex  4.3mg,  3/2/18  Ativan ,5 mg,  lunesta 2 mg , toprol  25 mg                                                            

 

Oct 16-28 2018 C/O to 19 mg V from 1.5 mg Ativan, 1.3 mg lunesta 

jan 22 2019- 11 mg V

jan 23 - pneumonia, 2 AB’s. 

    Hold taper

july 5- 10.72 V

July 6- 11 mg V- ugly bad

july 11- 10.72 mg V, 4.3 lex, 

              25 mg toprol

 

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5 hours ago, Littlegrandma said:

my mother swears by a glass of milk at bedtime. If she forgets, she usually can’t fall asleep. So she gets up, drinks it with a cookie and nods off. The sugar in the cookie would keep me awake but it works for her. 

Most supplements I have tried, failed me, with the exception of the recommended mag and omega. Don’t really want to send more money to Iherb unnecessarily. 

 

Hi Littlegrandma,

I can't handle the sugar either.  No matter how depressed I ever am, sugar makes it worse!  But the glass of milk sounds like a good idea.  I'm going to try it tonight.  I keep waking up several times during the night.

 

I like your positivity about recovery and the helpfulness of SA.  I know I was in terrible withdrawal when I got here and in danger of giving up all hope.  I am thankful for all the goodness and knowledge I've found here.

xoRM

Alcohol periodic excessive 1963-1976, Valium sporadic 1964-1973,  Imipramine off & on 1982-1985, Fluoxetine 10mg-80 mg. Oct., 1995-Jan., 2014; Cymbalta, other ADs 1/2014-3/2014; Abilify 5 mg. 3/2014 - 8/8/17; Trintellix 20 mg. 3/2014 - 9/2017; Propranolol 60-80 mg. sporadically Sept-Oct, 2017; Seroquel few days Sept 2017 (c/t); Wellbutrin 150 mg. Sept, 2017 updosed to 300 mg. few days till c/t Oct 8, 2017, fish oil, vitD, vitE Oct 16, 2017-pres. Lipoflavonoid 4/2017-pres.  Fluoxetine 10 mg. Sept-Oct 8, 2017, 20 mg. 10/9- 10/15; 10 mg. 10/16 - 12/29;  9 mg. 12/30 - 2/9; 2 mL liquid (8.1mg) 2/10 - 3/7; 1.8 mL (7.29 mg) 3/8 -3/20; 1.6 mL (6.561mg) 3/20-4/2; 1.4 mL (5.9 mg) 4/3-4/14; 1mL (4 mg.) 4/15-4/22; .9mL (3.6mg) 4/23-5/1; .81mL (3.24 mg) 5/2-5/24; .73mL (2.916mg.) 5/25-6/8; .65mL 6/9-6/23; .6mL 6/24-7/17; .58mL 7/18-7/28; .525mL 7/29-8/13; .5 mL 8/14-21; .45mL 8/22-31; .4mL 9/2-21; .35mL 9/22-10/4; .3mL 10/5-28; .25mL 10/28-11/10; .2mL 11/11-11/24; .18mL 11/25-12/3; .1mL 12/4-12/18. Zero-12/19/18-present.

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On 2/19/2018 at 4:20 PM, RealMe said:

Hi Littlegrandma,

I can't handle the sugar either.  No matter how depressed I ever am, sugar makes it worse!  But the glass of milk sounds like a good idea.  I'm going to try it tonight.  I keep waking up several times during the night.

 

I like your positivity about recovery and the helpfulness of SA.  I know I was in terrible withdrawal when I got here and in danger of giving up all hope.  I am thankful for all the goodness and knowledge I've found here.

xoRM

Did the glass of milk help? I ordered the lactium last night, but I’ll probably be too afraid to try it. I’ll open the capsule and try a tiny amount  to start. 

 

Last night I drank warm water with about a quarter tsp of Himalayan sea salt. I don’t lnow if it was coincidence, but the cortisol crush wasn’t as severe this morning. I may have actually slept a little bit later than usual if I had remembered to turn my phone off. I got 3 fast weather alerts. Then it was over. 

 

Hope youre doing well today, RM

xx lg

Lex  4.3mg,  3/2/18  Ativan ,5 mg,  lunesta 2 mg , toprol  25 mg                                                            

 

Oct 16-28 2018 C/O to 19 mg V from 1.5 mg Ativan, 1.3 mg lunesta 

jan 22 2019- 11 mg V

jan 23 - pneumonia, 2 AB’s. 

    Hold taper

july 5- 10.72 V

July 6- 11 mg V- ugly bad

july 11- 10.72 mg V, 4.3 lex, 

              25 mg toprol

 

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On 2/20/2018 at 6:16 PM, Littlegrandma said:

Did the glass of milk help? I ordered the lactium last night, but I’ll probably be too afraid to try it. I’ll open the capsule and try a tiny amount  to start. 

 

Last night I drank warm water with about a quarter tsp of Himalayan sea salt. I don’t lnow if it was coincidence, but the cortisol crush wasn’t as severe this morning. I may have actually slept a little bit later than usual if I had remembered to turn my phone off. I got 3 fast weather alerts. Then it was over. 

 

Hope youre doing well today, RM

xx lg

Hi LG,

I haven't tried the milk yet.  Maybe tomorrow. :)

Glad your cortisol crush has improved and you were able to sleep a little more.  I'm doing ok.  I posted on my intro.

xo RM

 

Alcohol periodic excessive 1963-1976, Valium sporadic 1964-1973,  Imipramine off & on 1982-1985, Fluoxetine 10mg-80 mg. Oct., 1995-Jan., 2014; Cymbalta, other ADs 1/2014-3/2014; Abilify 5 mg. 3/2014 - 8/8/17; Trintellix 20 mg. 3/2014 - 9/2017; Propranolol 60-80 mg. sporadically Sept-Oct, 2017; Seroquel few days Sept 2017 (c/t); Wellbutrin 150 mg. Sept, 2017 updosed to 300 mg. few days till c/t Oct 8, 2017, fish oil, vitD, vitE Oct 16, 2017-pres. Lipoflavonoid 4/2017-pres.  Fluoxetine 10 mg. Sept-Oct 8, 2017, 20 mg. 10/9- 10/15; 10 mg. 10/16 - 12/29;  9 mg. 12/30 - 2/9; 2 mL liquid (8.1mg) 2/10 - 3/7; 1.8 mL (7.29 mg) 3/8 -3/20; 1.6 mL (6.561mg) 3/20-4/2; 1.4 mL (5.9 mg) 4/3-4/14; 1mL (4 mg.) 4/15-4/22; .9mL (3.6mg) 4/23-5/1; .81mL (3.24 mg) 5/2-5/24; .73mL (2.916mg.) 5/25-6/8; .65mL 6/9-6/23; .6mL 6/24-7/17; .58mL 7/18-7/28; .525mL 7/29-8/13; .5 mL 8/14-21; .45mL 8/22-31; .4mL 9/2-21; .35mL 9/22-10/4; .3mL 10/5-28; .25mL 10/28-11/10; .2mL 11/11-11/24; .18mL 11/25-12/3; .1mL 12/4-12/18. Zero-12/19/18-present.

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Hi LG:

 

Just wanted to drop by and see how your symptoms are?

 

I'm not on much. I'm still trying to get this thyroid med out of my system, what a mess it made of me!

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

 

 

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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Hi Frogie 

i see you’ve been having trouble. Sorry. Hope you start to feel better soon, after you get that crap out of your system. 

 

I haven’t been on much. Just read to catch up once in awhile. Been busy with the kids. The baby is napping now. After tomorrow I can’t call him a baby.... it’s his 2nd bday. 

 

Feeling better the last 2 days. No nausea. Only a slight headache. Knock on wood. Anxiety has been replaced with fatigue. But I’ve been doing more. Now I’m so much more aware of how my house is in disarray. So trying to get caught up.  And have actually been outside with the kids the last 2 days. I feel like my cell was opened and I was set free. I don’t ever want to make another taper, but am going to soon. My daughter is having surgery beginning of April. I want to make one more drop and stabilize by then. She’s going to be out of commission for 12 wks and I’ll have the kids. Speaking of.....

i hear the little guys awake. Talk soon. 

Take care

feel better!!

hugs lg

 

Lex  4.3mg,  3/2/18  Ativan ,5 mg,  lunesta 2 mg , toprol  25 mg                                                            

 

Oct 16-28 2018 C/O to 19 mg V from 1.5 mg Ativan, 1.3 mg lunesta 

jan 22 2019- 11 mg V

jan 23 - pneumonia, 2 AB’s. 

    Hold taper

july 5- 10.72 V

July 6- 11 mg V- ugly bad

july 11- 10.72 mg V, 4.3 lex, 

              25 mg toprol

 

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3 minutes ago, Littlegrandma said:

Hi Frogie 

i see you’ve been having trouble. Sorry. Hope you start to feel better soon, after you get that crap out of your system. 

 

I haven’t been on much. Just read to catch up once in awhile. Been busy with the kids. The baby is napping now. After tomorrow I can’t call him a baby.... it’s his 2nd bday. 

 

Feeling better the last 2 days. No nausea. Only a slight headache. Knock on wood. Anxiety has been replaced with fatigue. But I’ve been doing more. Now I’m so much more aware of how my house is in disarray. So trying to get caught up.  And have actually been outside with the kids the last 2 days. I feel like my cell was opened and I was set free. I don’t ever want to make another taper, but am going to soon. My daughter is having surgery beginning of April. I want to make one more drop and stabilize by then. She’s going to be out of commission for 12 wks and I’ll have the kids. Speaking of.....

i hear the little guys awake. Talk soon. 

Take care

feel better!!

hugs lg

 

I'm glad you seem to be doing better.

 

I will as soon as this crap gets out of my system.

 

I hope your daughter will be ok. Good luck with the kids.

 

My house is in disarray but I just sit and look at it. This Synthroid just wiped me out.

 

Talk soon.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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On 2/28/2018 at 4:22 PM, Littlegrandma said:

Hi Frogie 

i see you’ve been having trouble. Sorry. Hope you start to feel better soon, after you get that crap out of your system. 

 

I haven’t been on much. Just read to catch up once in awhile. Been busy with the kids. The baby is napping now. After tomorrow I can’t call him a baby.... it’s his 2nd bday. 

 

Feeling better the last 2 days. No nausea. Only a slight headache. Knock on wood. Anxiety has been replaced with fatigue. But I’ve been doing more. Now I’m so much more aware of how my house is in disarray. So trying to get caught up.  And have actually been outside with the kids the last 2 days. I feel like my cell was opened and I was set free. I don’t ever want to make another taper, but am going to soon. My daughter is having surgery beginning of April. I want to make one more drop and stabilize by then. She’s going to be out of commission for 12 wks and I’ll have the kids. Speaking of.....

i hear the little guys awake. Talk soon. 

Take care

feel better!!

hugs lg

 

It sounds good that you’re feeling better the last 2 days. It sounded like you were really miserable before. Hope it’s still going. That’s how you know you’re on the right track. Good for you. 

 

2001 Remeron , Celexa, prozac a week on lithium. 

2014 went off effexor and trazadone in 3 weeks. 

2014 zoloft (hyper reaction) put on effexor 75 mg. Was stable until 2017 

2017  Trazadone 50 mg (June) Effexor to 113 mg (2 weeks) Effexor 150 mg for a month . Took 75 mg until November. . Lithium 10 days, Lamactil 10 day  aug-nov15 ativan

October : Prozac bridge to get off 75 mg of effexor Used 10 mg of prozac. Stopped prozac 3 wk 

Dec 6, 7 Upped trazadone from 50 to 100 mg Did it for 3 days Stopped it

Dec 7 , Dec 8 Took prozac again 0.1 , 0.1, 0.6 stopped it

Dec 11 and Dec 12 upped it to 100 again

Dec 15 , 16,17 went back to 50 mg of trazadone

December 18 Began 3 beads of effexor  Dec 25 began 5 beads of effexor take 10 mg of omneprazole daily

 

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On 2/28/2018 at 1:22 PM, Littlegrandma said:

 

Feeling better the last 2 days. No nausea. Only a slight headache. Knock on wood. Anxiety has been replaced with fatigue. But I’ve been doing more. Now I’m so much more aware of how my house is in disarray. So trying to get caught up.  And have actually been outside with the kids the last 2 days. I feel like my cell was opened and I was set free

Oh wow - this is wonderful news, LG.....I am so happy for you that your symptoms settled down and you have been able to be out and about!  You so deserve a break - what a beautiful description of being in a cell and you were set free. 

-1/06 - 3/07 Cymbalta. Fast taper (essentially CT); withdrawal symptoms after 4 mos (didn't realize was WD)

-10/07: 100 mg Zoloft; 1 mg Klonopin - tapered off Klonopin after 4 mos. Several unsuccessful slow tapers of Zoloft; went up and down in dose a lot

-Spring 2013 back on 1 mg Klonopin to counter WD symptoms; switched over 5-6 mos from Zoloft to 35 mg citalopram
-Two attempts at slow tapering citalopram, always increased dose due to WD; also increased Klonopin to 1.25 mg in 2014, then to 1.5 mg in 2015

-8/17-9/17: After holding one year at 20 mg, feeling withdrawal symptoms due to stress - slowly increased to 25 mg. No change in symptoms after 6 months (? tolerance ?)  - decided to start citalopram taper February 2018 (still on Klonopin 1.5 mg).

Supplements: fish oil; magnesium; vitamin D3; curcumin

Citalopram taper:  2/2018 - 12/2019: 25 mg - 11.03 mg I 2020: 10.89 mg - 7.9 mg I 2021: 7.8 mg - 5.26 mg I 2022: 5.2 mg - 3.36 mg I 2023: 3.3 mg - 1.47 mg 2024: 1/5/24: 1.44 mg; 1/19/24: 1.40 mg; 1/26/24: 1.37 mg; 2/2/24: 1.34 mg; 2/9/24: 1.31 mg; 2/23/24: 1.28 mg; 3/1/24: 1.25 mg; 3/8/24: 1.22 mg; 3/15/24: 1.19 mg; 3/29/24: 1.17 mg; 4/5/24: 1.14 mg; 4/13/24: 1.11 mg; 4/20/24: 1.09 mg; 4/27/24: 1.06 mg; 5/4/24: 1.04 mg

 

 

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1 minute ago, Downbutnotout said:

It sounds good that you’re feeling better the last 2 days. It sounded like you were really miserable before. Hope it’s still going. That’s how you know you’re on the right track. Good for you. 

Hi D

well, the good times only lasted 2 days. Then everything went downhill fast. I am really disheartened. Anxiety is so bad, I can hardly stand to be around anybody, especially the kids. I’ve sunk into a depression I’ve never experienced before. 

 

I read you took Ativan today. Be very careful. It does help in the moment, but don’t open Pandora’s box. After being on it for 6 mo, I think it’s hurting more than it’s helping. A lot of my anxiety is around the fear of tapering Ativan in the future. We’ve sure got ourselves into a jam. Like you, I worry that my “golden years” are going to be less than stellar. I don’t see a quick end to this misery. 

Lex  4.3mg,  3/2/18  Ativan ,5 mg,  lunesta 2 mg , toprol  25 mg                                                            

 

Oct 16-28 2018 C/O to 19 mg V from 1.5 mg Ativan, 1.3 mg lunesta 

jan 22 2019- 11 mg V

jan 23 - pneumonia, 2 AB’s. 

    Hold taper

july 5- 10.72 V

July 6- 11 mg V- ugly bad

july 11- 10.72 mg V, 4.3 lex, 

              25 mg toprol

 

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2 minutes ago, Littlegrandma said:

Hi D

well, the good times only lasted 2 days. Then everything went downhill fast. I am really disheartened. Anxiety is so bad, I can hardly stand to be around anybody, especially the kids. I’ve sunk into a depression I’ve never experienced before. 

 

I read you took Ativan today. Be very careful. It does help in the moment, but don’t open Pandora’s box. After being on it for 6 mo, I think it’s hurting more than it’s helping. A lot of my anxiety is around the fear of tapering Ativan in the future. We’ve sure got ourselves into a jam. Like you, I worry that my “golden years” are going to be less than stellar. I don’t see a quick end to this misery. 

Yes, I know. I’m so mad at myself for taking it. I was in real distress. I should’ve just made it through. Your situation is making me so disheartened. What do you think caused that?  Is there an answer we’re missing?  Are we suffering needlessly? 

 

2001 Remeron , Celexa, prozac a week on lithium. 

2014 went off effexor and trazadone in 3 weeks. 

2014 zoloft (hyper reaction) put on effexor 75 mg. Was stable until 2017 

2017  Trazadone 50 mg (June) Effexor to 113 mg (2 weeks) Effexor 150 mg for a month . Took 75 mg until November. . Lithium 10 days, Lamactil 10 day  aug-nov15 ativan

October : Prozac bridge to get off 75 mg of effexor Used 10 mg of prozac. Stopped prozac 3 wk 

Dec 6, 7 Upped trazadone from 50 to 100 mg Did it for 3 days Stopped it

Dec 7 , Dec 8 Took prozac again 0.1 , 0.1, 0.6 stopped it

Dec 11 and Dec 12 upped it to 100 again

Dec 15 , 16,17 went back to 50 mg of trazadone

December 18 Began 3 beads of effexor  Dec 25 began 5 beads of effexor take 10 mg of omneprazole daily

 

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2 minutes ago, wantrelief said:

Oh wow - this is wonderful news, LG.....I am so happy for you that your symptoms settled down and you have been able to be out and about!  You so deserve a break - what a beautiful description of being in a cell and you were set free. 

I’ve been thinking about you WR. Though that was my best window in 9 mo, it was short lived. I’m not sure if I feel worse than before or it just seems like it after a couple days of pretty decent. But all symptoms back and I’m so disappointed. I actually had real hope of recovery, but now I’m back to scared and fear it will never end. 

 

How are you doing? Sorry I haven’t given or gotten an update from you. It’s been crazy hectic around here. There’s been a revolving door with too many people in and out the last few days and it has driven my anxiety through the roof. I cried through my grandsons bday party here last night. 

 

Hope youre hanging in there. I will pm you tomorrow with update. 

Hugs. Lg

Lex  4.3mg,  3/2/18  Ativan ,5 mg,  lunesta 2 mg , toprol  25 mg                                                            

 

Oct 16-28 2018 C/O to 19 mg V from 1.5 mg Ativan, 1.3 mg lunesta 

jan 22 2019- 11 mg V

jan 23 - pneumonia, 2 AB’s. 

    Hold taper

july 5- 10.72 V

July 6- 11 mg V- ugly bad

july 11- 10.72 mg V, 4.3 lex, 

              25 mg toprol

 

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6 minutes ago, Littlegrandma said:

Though that was my best window in 9 mo, it was short lived. I’m not sure if I feel worse than before or it just seems like it after a couple days of pretty decent. But all symptoms back and I’m so disappointed. I actually had real hope of recovery, but now I’m back to scared and fear it will never end. 

Hi Littlegrandma,

So sorry your symptoms are back and that you are feeling discouraged.  This keeps happening to me as well, and I have to keep reminding myself that windows are proof that recovery will happen.  I try to remember the windows when the symptoms bombard me again.

 

Happy 2nd birthday to your little grandson.  My youngest is six, and I miss holding all of them when they were babies--so comforting.

 

I believe you still have real hope of recovery even though it doesn't feel like it at this moment.  You have sent me such lovely and encouraging messages, and I know we are healing--maybe slowly, but definitely steadily.  When I remember what it was like for me several months ago, I see the bigger picture.

xo RM

Alcohol periodic excessive 1963-1976, Valium sporadic 1964-1973,  Imipramine off & on 1982-1985, Fluoxetine 10mg-80 mg. Oct., 1995-Jan., 2014; Cymbalta, other ADs 1/2014-3/2014; Abilify 5 mg. 3/2014 - 8/8/17; Trintellix 20 mg. 3/2014 - 9/2017; Propranolol 60-80 mg. sporadically Sept-Oct, 2017; Seroquel few days Sept 2017 (c/t); Wellbutrin 150 mg. Sept, 2017 updosed to 300 mg. few days till c/t Oct 8, 2017, fish oil, vitD, vitE Oct 16, 2017-pres. Lipoflavonoid 4/2017-pres.  Fluoxetine 10 mg. Sept-Oct 8, 2017, 20 mg. 10/9- 10/15; 10 mg. 10/16 - 12/29;  9 mg. 12/30 - 2/9; 2 mL liquid (8.1mg) 2/10 - 3/7; 1.8 mL (7.29 mg) 3/8 -3/20; 1.6 mL (6.561mg) 3/20-4/2; 1.4 mL (5.9 mg) 4/3-4/14; 1mL (4 mg.) 4/15-4/22; .9mL (3.6mg) 4/23-5/1; .81mL (3.24 mg) 5/2-5/24; .73mL (2.916mg.) 5/25-6/8; .65mL 6/9-6/23; .6mL 6/24-7/17; .58mL 7/18-7/28; .525mL 7/29-8/13; .5 mL 8/14-21; .45mL 8/22-31; .4mL 9/2-21; .35mL 9/22-10/4; .3mL 10/5-28; .25mL 10/28-11/10; .2mL 11/11-11/24; .18mL 11/25-12/3; .1mL 12/4-12/18. Zero-12/19/18-present.

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4 minutes ago, Downbutnotout said:

Yes, I know. I’m so mad at myself for taking it. I was in real distress. I should’ve just made it through. Your situation is making me so disheartened. What do you think caused that?  Is there an answer we’re missing?  Are we suffering needlessly? 

Don’t beat yourself up about it. It’s a quick fix and you deserve a day of peace. It’s not going to hurt you to take it sporadically, I don’t think. But I’m not the best judge. I’ve made a mess of my life. 

 

I wonder all the time if I’m missing something and if I’m suffering needlessly. My brothers lectured me last night about getting off these meds quicker, telling me to suck up a couple weeks of feeling shi$$y and get on with my life. I wish it was that easy. But I think the anxiety of the whole process is a huge part of my problem. Plus there’s so much chaos in my life right now. I would have anxiety even if not in wd. Would love a week by myself on the beach. But just the thought of going through the airport causes so much anxiety, it’s not worth it. I can’t imagine being stuck on an airplane in a teeny tiny seat. You’d probably see me on the 10:00news being dragged off the plane after trying to open the hatch. 

Lex  4.3mg,  3/2/18  Ativan ,5 mg,  lunesta 2 mg , toprol  25 mg                                                            

 

Oct 16-28 2018 C/O to 19 mg V from 1.5 mg Ativan, 1.3 mg lunesta 

jan 22 2019- 11 mg V

jan 23 - pneumonia, 2 AB’s. 

    Hold taper

july 5- 10.72 V

July 6- 11 mg V- ugly bad

july 11- 10.72 mg V, 4.3 lex, 

              25 mg toprol

 

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8 minutes ago, RealMe said:

Hi Littlegrandma,

So sorry your symptoms are back and that you are feeling discouraged.  This keeps happening to me as well, and I have to keep reminding myself that windows are proof that recovery will happen.  I try to remember the windows when the symptoms bombard me again.

 

Happy 2nd birthday to your little grandson.  My youngest is six, and I miss holding all of them when they were babies--so comforting.

 

I believe you still have real hope of recovery even though it doesn't feel like it at this moment.  You have sent me such lovely and encouraging messages, and I know we are healing--maybe slowly, but definitely steadily.  When I remember what it was like for me several months ago, I see the bigger picture.

xo RM

Thanks RM

i needed that. I’ve never had a true window before. Partial days with less symptoms, but not really decent days. Tues and wed gave me peace and hope for recovery. Now back to true doubt. 

 

But it I do want to tell you that your last few weeks have been very inspirational to me. I know you’ve had the same fears and doubts and for the first time I heard hope in your writing. It’s been encouraging to me. 

 

My little guy isn’t a baby anymore. We had his party here last night. I cried through most of it. Not because I’m losing my baby, but sensory overload. It was so loud and crazy, like a party should be, and my CNS couldn’t handle it. It just topped off a couple weeks of chaos. 

 

Thanks for the encouraging words. 

Youre the best!!

hugs lg

Lex  4.3mg,  3/2/18  Ativan ,5 mg,  lunesta 2 mg , toprol  25 mg                                                            

 

Oct 16-28 2018 C/O to 19 mg V from 1.5 mg Ativan, 1.3 mg lunesta 

jan 22 2019- 11 mg V

jan 23 - pneumonia, 2 AB’s. 

    Hold taper

july 5- 10.72 V

July 6- 11 mg V- ugly bad

july 11- 10.72 mg V, 4.3 lex, 

              25 mg toprol

 

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1 hour ago, Littlegrandma said:

I’ve been thinking about you WR. Though that was my best window in 9 mo, it was short lived. I’m not sure if I feel worse than before or it just seems like it after a couple days of pretty decent. But all symptoms back and I’m so disappointed. I actually had real hope of recovery, but now I’m back to scared and fear it will never end. 

Oh, LG....I am so very sorry.  How disappointing after having a couple of good days having your symptoms come back.  I really understand your feeling scared and fearful of this never ending.....I feel the same way. And we are in the same boat having to contend with other drugs too, so I also understand how hard that is to deal with as well.  But....the fact that you actually experienced a change, no matter how short lived, is huge.  Your symptoms did change for the better so you know it can happen.  I think this is actually really positive even though I know it doesn't feel that way now that your symptoms are back.  If your brain can make that adjustment, it will again LG!

-1/06 - 3/07 Cymbalta. Fast taper (essentially CT); withdrawal symptoms after 4 mos (didn't realize was WD)

-10/07: 100 mg Zoloft; 1 mg Klonopin - tapered off Klonopin after 4 mos. Several unsuccessful slow tapers of Zoloft; went up and down in dose a lot

-Spring 2013 back on 1 mg Klonopin to counter WD symptoms; switched over 5-6 mos from Zoloft to 35 mg citalopram
-Two attempts at slow tapering citalopram, always increased dose due to WD; also increased Klonopin to 1.25 mg in 2014, then to 1.5 mg in 2015

-8/17-9/17: After holding one year at 20 mg, feeling withdrawal symptoms due to stress - slowly increased to 25 mg. No change in symptoms after 6 months (? tolerance ?)  - decided to start citalopram taper February 2018 (still on Klonopin 1.5 mg).

Supplements: fish oil; magnesium; vitamin D3; curcumin

Citalopram taper:  2/2018 - 12/2019: 25 mg - 11.03 mg I 2020: 10.89 mg - 7.9 mg I 2021: 7.8 mg - 5.26 mg I 2022: 5.2 mg - 3.36 mg I 2023: 3.3 mg - 1.47 mg 2024: 1/5/24: 1.44 mg; 1/19/24: 1.40 mg; 1/26/24: 1.37 mg; 2/2/24: 1.34 mg; 2/9/24: 1.31 mg; 2/23/24: 1.28 mg; 3/1/24: 1.25 mg; 3/8/24: 1.22 mg; 3/15/24: 1.19 mg; 3/29/24: 1.17 mg; 4/5/24: 1.14 mg; 4/13/24: 1.11 mg; 4/20/24: 1.09 mg; 4/27/24: 1.06 mg; 5/4/24: 1.04 mg

 

 

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1 hour ago, Littlegrandma said:

Don’t beat yourself up about it. It’s a quick fix and you deserve a day of peace. It’s not going to hurt you to take it sporadically, I don’t think. But I’m not the best judge. I’ve made a mess of my life. 

 

I wonder all the time if I’m missing something and if I’m suffering needlessly. My brothers lectured me last night about getting off these meds quicker, telling me to suck up a couple weeks of feeling shi$$y and get on with my life. I wish it was that easy. But I think the anxiety of the whole process is a huge part of my problem. Plus there’s so much chaos in my life right now. I would have anxiety even if not in wd. Would love a week by myself on the beach. But just the thought of going through the airport causes so much anxiety, it’s not worth it. I can’t imagine being stuck on an airplane in a teeny tiny seat. You’d probably see me on the 10:00news being dragged off the plane after trying to open the hatch. 

They don’t get it. Wouldn’t it be great if it was that simple? I like your description. It made me smile . Almost. That’s a start. 

 

2001 Remeron , Celexa, prozac a week on lithium. 

2014 went off effexor and trazadone in 3 weeks. 

2014 zoloft (hyper reaction) put on effexor 75 mg. Was stable until 2017 

2017  Trazadone 50 mg (June) Effexor to 113 mg (2 weeks) Effexor 150 mg for a month . Took 75 mg until November. . Lithium 10 days, Lamactil 10 day  aug-nov15 ativan

October : Prozac bridge to get off 75 mg of effexor Used 10 mg of prozac. Stopped prozac 3 wk 

Dec 6, 7 Upped trazadone from 50 to 100 mg Did it for 3 days Stopped it

Dec 7 , Dec 8 Took prozac again 0.1 , 0.1, 0.6 stopped it

Dec 11 and Dec 12 upped it to 100 again

Dec 15 , 16,17 went back to 50 mg of trazadone

December 18 Began 3 beads of effexor  Dec 25 began 5 beads of effexor take 10 mg of omneprazole daily

 

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Hi LG:

 

Just wondered how your doing?

 

My dr decided I need to taper my Xanax too now.

 

I'm so nauseous it's not funny.

 

Hope you are doing well.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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I’m sorry Frogie. 

Why does your doc think it’s a good time to taper now? I don’t get it. He knows you’re trying to get off both meds. Why not one at a time? I hope the mods came up with a plan for you. 

 

Are you nauseous from the stress or from the taper? How much xanax are you tapering? Did you get a liquid?

 

im having a rough couple days. I have the kids full time for the next 6-8 wks. 12 hr days. They’re wearing me down. If we could get outside it would be so much easier. Still cold here. We had sleet storm last night. Waiting for spring!

 

after avoiding the flu bugs all winter, I finally caught one from the kids. Has ramped up all symptoms. Not sure how I’m going to survive this next couple months. My husband is being a great help. Took a vacation day yesterday. My mom and brothers are popping in on my daughter. We decided it would be best for her to stay at her house for the first couple weeks after surgery to get some peace and quiet. My family takes her meals during the day. We take them dinner. Her husband doesn’t get home til 8 ish. Then we deliver the kids fed and bathed and ready for bed. 

 

Sorry i I haven’t popped in to check on you. Haven’t had much time for anything. 

Hang on Frogie. Things will be better. You’re kinda scaring me since I still have the Ativan and others to taper after the lex. 

 

Big hugs xx lg

Lex  4.3mg,  3/2/18  Ativan ,5 mg,  lunesta 2 mg , toprol  25 mg                                                            

 

Oct 16-28 2018 C/O to 19 mg V from 1.5 mg Ativan, 1.3 mg lunesta 

jan 22 2019- 11 mg V

jan 23 - pneumonia, 2 AB’s. 

    Hold taper

july 5- 10.72 V

July 6- 11 mg V- ugly bad

july 11- 10.72 mg V, 4.3 lex, 

              25 mg toprol

 

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6 minutes ago, Littlegrandma said:

I’m sorry Frogie. 

Why does your doc think it’s a good time to taper now? I don’t get it. He knows you’re trying to get off both meds. Why not one at a time? I hope the mods came up with a plan for you. 

 

Are you nauseous from the stress or from the taper? How much xanax are you tapering? Did you get a liquid?

 

im having a rough couple days. I have the kids full time for the next 6-8 wks. 12 hr days. They’re wearing me down. If we could get outside it would be so much easier. Still cold here. We had sleet storm last night. Waiting for spring!

 

after avoiding the flu bugs all winter, I finally caught one from the kids. Has ramped up all symptoms. Not sure how I’m going to survive this next couple months. My husband is being a great help. Took a vacation day yesterday. My mom and brothers are popping in on my daughter. We decided it would be best for her to stay at her house for the first couple weeks after surgery to get some peace and quiet. My family takes her meals during the day. We take them dinner. Her husband doesn’t get home til 8 ish. Then we deliver the kids fed and bathed and ready for bed. 

 

Sorry i I haven’t popped in to check on you. Haven’t had much time for anything. 

Hang on Frogie. Things will be better. You’re kinda scaring me since I still have the Ativan and others to taper after the lex. 

 

Big hugs xx lg

I'm sorry you aren't doing well. Still the same symptoms? 

 

I hope your your daughter is ok. And you are ok with the kids. I know it's hard when you are going through WD.

 

I have nausea from the taper. It's the 3rd day. It's a really small amount only 2.5%. The dr is old fashioned and thinks if you are doing well on one thing then you should do ok on the next. He said I've been on these drugs at too high a dose and too many years.

 

Shep is excellent. She has come up with a great plan for me and one I'm pretty sure the dr will be pleased with.

 

I just haven't been nauseous for so long and I don't miss it at all.

 

You will be fine. Take a deep breath and take care of yourself.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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Are you taking 2.5 off each dose or just one? You’re still on x3 a day?

The nausea is awful. Hopefully it will pass in a couple days. You’re holding for 30 days? I was hoping the Ativan would be easier than the lex taper. Ugh. Such a long way to go!!

 

my daughter is doing ok. She’s a tough girl. She’s been in constant pain for the last year from a botched surgery. So hopefully everything is right now and she will feel better after the surgical pain has lessened. Surgery was pretty radical with bone grafting and fusing of her ankle. Had to remove pins and bridges that the last 

“doctor” needlessly put in. Her ankle and tibia started deteriorating. Was left with gaping holes in her bones. 

 

I dont have any choice than to watch the kids. She can’t put any pressure on her foot for 6-8 wks. Year for full recovery. There’s nobody else to watch the kids. I don’t want them in daycare. So, my choice. I’m doing the best I can. Not easy with symptoms and unstable CNS. Just trying not to strangle anybody.    

 

Have you been using using the bike? I’m all hung ho when I get new exercise equipment. Eventually becomes a dust collector. The key for me is to not skip a day. But right now it’s just difficult to walk across the room sometimes. 

xx lg

34 minutes ago, Frogie said:

I'm sorry you aren't doing well. Still the same symptoms? 

 

I hope your your daughter is ok. And you are ok with the kids. I know it's hard when you are going through WD.

 

I have nausea from the taper. It's the 3rd day. It's a really small amount only 2.5%. The dr is old fashioned and thinks if you are doing well on one thing then you should do ok on the next. He said I've been on these drugs at too high a dose and too many years.

 

Shep is excellent. She has come up with a great plan for me and one I'm pretty sure the dr will be pleased with.

 

I just haven't been nauseous for so long and I don't miss it at all.

 

You will be fine. Take a deep breath and take care of yourself.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

 

Lex  4.3mg,  3/2/18  Ativan ,5 mg,  lunesta 2 mg , toprol  25 mg                                                            

 

Oct 16-28 2018 C/O to 19 mg V from 1.5 mg Ativan, 1.3 mg lunesta 

jan 22 2019- 11 mg V

jan 23 - pneumonia, 2 AB’s. 

    Hold taper

july 5- 10.72 V

July 6- 11 mg V- ugly bad

july 11- 10.72 mg V, 4.3 lex, 

              25 mg toprol

 

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9 minutes ago, Littlegrandma said:

Are you taking 2.5 off each dose or just one? You’re still on x3 a day?

The nausea is awful. Hopefully it will pass in a couple days. You’re holding for 30 days? I was hoping the Ativan would be easier than the lex taper. Ugh. Such a long way to go!!

 

my daughter is doing ok. She’s a tough girl. She’s been in constant pain for the last year from a botched surgery. So hopefully everything is right now and she will feel better after the surgical pain has lessened. Surgery was pretty radical with bone grafting and fusing of her ankle. Had to remove pins and bridges that the last 

“doctor” needlessly put in. Her ankle and tibia started deteriorating. Was left with gaping holes in her bones. 

 

I dont have any choice than to watch the kids. She can’t put any pressure on her foot for 6-8 wks. Year for full recovery. There’s nobody else to watch the kids. I don’t want them in daycare. So, my choice. I’m doing the best I can. Not easy with symptoms and unstable CNS. Just trying not to strangle anybody.    

 

Have you been using using the bike? I’m all hung ho when I get new exercise equipment. Eventually becomes a dust collector. The key for me is to not skip a day. But right now it’s just difficult to walk across the room sometimes. 

xx lg

 

I'm raking the taper off of each dose. I'm sooooo sick. I'm calling the dr and going to talk to him about stopping the taper because if it. And just let me get over the Lexapro and then go from there.

 

Sounds like your daughter is in rough shape. I'm sorry to hear that. But hopefully she will ve better in the long run.

 

I haven't been using the bike. I got lazy lol... Maybe this weekend in I can get a handle on the nausea.

 

I will let you know what the dr has to say.

 

Hang in there.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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13 minutes ago, Frogie said:

I'm raking the taper off of each dose. I'm sooooo sick. I'm calling the dr and going to talk to him about stopping the taper because if it. And just let me get over the Lexapro and then go from there.

 

Sounds like your daughter is in rough shape. I'm sorry to hear that. But hopefully she will ve better in the long run.

 

I haven't been using the bike. I got lazy lol... Maybe this weekend in I can get a handle on the nausea.

 

I will let you know what the dr has to say.

 

Hang in there.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

I just got off the phone with the dr.

 

I told hoping how sick I was and couldn't do both tapers.

 

He agreed to let me go back to my normal dose of Xanax but continue the Lexapro taper.

 

I hope I get rid of the nausea soon.

 

I hope you hang in there.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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1 minute ago, Frogie said:

I just got off the phone with the dr.

 

I told hoping how sick I was and couldn't do both tapers.

 

He agreed to let me go back to my normal dose of Xanax but continue the Lexapro taper.

 

I hope I get rid of the nausea soon.

 

I hope you hang in there.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

Excellent!!  

Hopefully the nausea subsides. You were doing fairly well with the lex taper. Why rock the boat?

thats awesome Frogie 👍

Lex  4.3mg,  3/2/18  Ativan ,5 mg,  lunesta 2 mg , toprol  25 mg                                                            

 

Oct 16-28 2018 C/O to 19 mg V from 1.5 mg Ativan, 1.3 mg lunesta 

jan 22 2019- 11 mg V

jan 23 - pneumonia, 2 AB’s. 

    Hold taper

july 5- 10.72 V

July 6- 11 mg V- ugly bad

july 11- 10.72 mg V, 4.3 lex, 

              25 mg toprol

 

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sorry to hear about your daughter.that sounds dreadful!

this must be a terrible strain on you at this time....don't know how you do it.

I was gonna mention day care to you but see you don't want to do it.

I was watching my grandson from 3 months to 13 months when my daughter put him in day care cuz I was getting so worn out,and that was before WD!

 

You must be a very strong person!

 

wishing you and your daughter all the best.

 

take care,ds   xx

went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct  back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.started 10 mgs. Fluoxetine May 25 2021 .Stopped fluoxetine May 2022 at 5 mgs.

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3 hours ago, Littlegrandma said:

Excellent!!  

Hopefully the nausea subsides. You were doing fairly well with the lex taper. Why rock the boat?

thats awesome Frogie 👍

Yeah I don't know why the dr wanted to do it in the 1st place. 

 

But I'm glad he saw it my way.

 

Hope you are doing ok under the circumstances.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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4 hours ago, Littlegrandma said:

im having a rough couple days. I have the kids full time for the next 6-8 wks. 12 hr days. They’re wearing me down. If we could get outside it would be so much easier. Still cold here. We had sleet storm last night. Waiting for spring!

 

after avoiding the flu bugs all winter, I finally caught one from the kids. Has ramped up all symptoms. Not sure how I’m going to survive this next couple months. My husband is being a great help. Took a vacation day yesterday. My mom and brothers are popping in on my daughter. We decided it would be best for her to stay at her house for the first couple weeks after surgery to get some peace and quiet. My family takes her meals during the day. We take them dinner. Her husband doesn’t get home til 8 ish. Then we deliver the kids fed and bathed and ready for bed. 

I am so sorry you are having a rough couple of days. I don't know how you do it, LG....you really are such a strong person.  I hope your daughter is doing ok.  It sounds like you have such an amazing family all helping one another.  I am thinking about you and hope you get over the bug you caught soon - hopefully once you heal from that, your withdrawal symptoms will calm down.

-1/06 - 3/07 Cymbalta. Fast taper (essentially CT); withdrawal symptoms after 4 mos (didn't realize was WD)

-10/07: 100 mg Zoloft; 1 mg Klonopin - tapered off Klonopin after 4 mos. Several unsuccessful slow tapers of Zoloft; went up and down in dose a lot

-Spring 2013 back on 1 mg Klonopin to counter WD symptoms; switched over 5-6 mos from Zoloft to 35 mg citalopram
-Two attempts at slow tapering citalopram, always increased dose due to WD; also increased Klonopin to 1.25 mg in 2014, then to 1.5 mg in 2015

-8/17-9/17: After holding one year at 20 mg, feeling withdrawal symptoms due to stress - slowly increased to 25 mg. No change in symptoms after 6 months (? tolerance ?)  - decided to start citalopram taper February 2018 (still on Klonopin 1.5 mg).

Supplements: fish oil; magnesium; vitamin D3; curcumin

Citalopram taper:  2/2018 - 12/2019: 25 mg - 11.03 mg I 2020: 10.89 mg - 7.9 mg I 2021: 7.8 mg - 5.26 mg I 2022: 5.2 mg - 3.36 mg I 2023: 3.3 mg - 1.47 mg 2024: 1/5/24: 1.44 mg; 1/19/24: 1.40 mg; 1/26/24: 1.37 mg; 2/2/24: 1.34 mg; 2/9/24: 1.31 mg; 2/23/24: 1.28 mg; 3/1/24: 1.25 mg; 3/8/24: 1.22 mg; 3/15/24: 1.19 mg; 3/29/24: 1.17 mg; 4/5/24: 1.14 mg; 4/13/24: 1.11 mg; 4/20/24: 1.09 mg; 4/27/24: 1.06 mg; 5/4/24: 1.04 mg

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Frogie said:

Yeah I don't know why the dr wanted to do it in the 1st place. 

 

But I'm glad he saw it my way.

 

Hope you are doing ok under the circumstances.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

I don’t know how he couldn’t see it your way. My God. It’s not like you’re asking for more drugs to get your fix. He realizes how desperately you want off of them. 

 

At at least my dr acknowledges the fact you can’t taper more than one at a time. He was a little upset when I took a drop off the lunesta and got the 🤮. 

 

Have you taken the full afternoon dose yet? Hope it takes away the nausea immediately. xx

Lex  4.3mg,  3/2/18  Ativan ,5 mg,  lunesta 2 mg , toprol  25 mg                                                            

 

Oct 16-28 2018 C/O to 19 mg V from 1.5 mg Ativan, 1.3 mg lunesta 

jan 22 2019- 11 mg V

jan 23 - pneumonia, 2 AB’s. 

    Hold taper

july 5- 10.72 V

July 6- 11 mg V- ugly bad

july 11- 10.72 mg V, 4.3 lex, 

              25 mg toprol

 

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Just now, Littlegrandma said:

I don’t know how he couldn’t see it your way. My God. It’s not like you’re asking for more drugs to get your fix. He realizes how desperately you want off of them. 

 

At at least my dr acknowledges the fact you can’t taper more than one at a time. He was a little upset when I took a drop off the lunesta and got the 🤮. 

 

Have you taken the full afternoon dose yet? Hope it takes away the nausea immediately. xx

He's an old fashioned dr. And he just didn't understand until I talked to him today.

 

I hope the nausea goes away soon too.

 

Hope you are ganging in there.

 

Take care,

Frogie xx

PREVIOUS medications and discontinuations: Have been on medications since 1996. 

 Valium, Gabapentin, Lamictal, Prilosec and Zantac from 2000 to 2015 with a fast taper by a psychiatrist.

 Liquid Lexapro Nov, 2016 to 31-March, 2019 Lexapro free!!! (total Lexapro taper was 4 years-started with pill form)

---CURRENT MEDICATIONS:Supplements:Milk Thistle, Metamucil, Magnesium Citrate, Vitamin D3, Levothyroxine 25mcg, Vitamin C, Krill oil.

Xanax 1mg 3x day June, 2000 to 19-September, 2020 Went from .150 grams (average weight of 1 Xanax) 3x day to .003 grams 3x day. April 1, 2021 went back on 1mg a day. Started tapering May 19, 2023. July 28, 2023-approximately .87mg. Dr. fast tapered me at the end and realized he messed up. Prescribe it again and I am doing "slower than a turtle" taper.

19-September, 2020 Xanax free!!! (total Xanax taper was 15-1/2 months-1-June, 2019-19-September, 2020)

I am not a medical professional.

The suggestions I make are based on personal experience.

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28 minutes ago, wantrelief said:

I am so sorry you are having a rough couple of days. I don't know how you do it, LG....you really are such a strong person.  I hope your daughter is doing ok.  It sounds like you have such an amazing family all helping one another.  I am thinking about you and hope you get over the bug you caught soon - hopefully once you heal from that, your withdrawal symptoms will calm down.

Thank you, my friend. 

Its a testament to the fact that stress effects the wd process. I thought I was sailing through this last taper. Not so much!

 

How are you doing? I probably don’t need to ask those that are on the forum on a Saturday afternoon. This blows! I’ve got stuff to do. Lol

 

Thanks for dropping by with your well wishes.  Love xx Lg

Lex  4.3mg,  3/2/18  Ativan ,5 mg,  lunesta 2 mg , toprol  25 mg                                                            

 

Oct 16-28 2018 C/O to 19 mg V from 1.5 mg Ativan, 1.3 mg lunesta 

jan 22 2019- 11 mg V

jan 23 - pneumonia, 2 AB’s. 

    Hold taper

july 5- 10.72 V

July 6- 11 mg V- ugly bad

july 11- 10.72 mg V, 4.3 lex, 

              25 mg toprol

 

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16 minutes ago, Littlegrandma said:

Thank you, my friend. 

Its a testament to the fact that stress effects the wd process. I thought I was sailing through this last taper. Not so much!

 

How are you doing? I probably don’t need to ask those that are on the forum on a Saturday afternoon. This blows! I’ve got stuff to do. Lol

 

Thanks for dropping by with your well wishes.  Love xx Lg

You'll get back to where you were after this stressful time passes, LG.  You are still funny even though you aren't feeling well! Thank you for asking how I am doing in the middle of what you are contending with - I am ok, the same.  I made a small cut earlier in the week so fingers crossed I don't have any worsening of symptoms post-cut.  

-1/06 - 3/07 Cymbalta. Fast taper (essentially CT); withdrawal symptoms after 4 mos (didn't realize was WD)

-10/07: 100 mg Zoloft; 1 mg Klonopin - tapered off Klonopin after 4 mos. Several unsuccessful slow tapers of Zoloft; went up and down in dose a lot

-Spring 2013 back on 1 mg Klonopin to counter WD symptoms; switched over 5-6 mos from Zoloft to 35 mg citalopram
-Two attempts at slow tapering citalopram, always increased dose due to WD; also increased Klonopin to 1.25 mg in 2014, then to 1.5 mg in 2015

-8/17-9/17: After holding one year at 20 mg, feeling withdrawal symptoms due to stress - slowly increased to 25 mg. No change in symptoms after 6 months (? tolerance ?)  - decided to start citalopram taper February 2018 (still on Klonopin 1.5 mg).

Supplements: fish oil; magnesium; vitamin D3; curcumin

Citalopram taper:  2/2018 - 12/2019: 25 mg - 11.03 mg I 2020: 10.89 mg - 7.9 mg I 2021: 7.8 mg - 5.26 mg I 2022: 5.2 mg - 3.36 mg I 2023: 3.3 mg - 1.47 mg 2024: 1/5/24: 1.44 mg; 1/19/24: 1.40 mg; 1/26/24: 1.37 mg; 2/2/24: 1.34 mg; 2/9/24: 1.31 mg; 2/23/24: 1.28 mg; 3/1/24: 1.25 mg; 3/8/24: 1.22 mg; 3/15/24: 1.19 mg; 3/29/24: 1.17 mg; 4/5/24: 1.14 mg; 4/13/24: 1.11 mg; 4/20/24: 1.09 mg; 4/27/24: 1.06 mg; 5/4/24: 1.04 mg

 

 

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12 minutes ago, wantrelief said:

You'll get back to where you were after this stressful time passes, LG.  You are still funny even though you aren't feeling well! Thank you for asking how I am doing in the middle of what you are contending with - I am ok, the same.  I made a small cut earlier in the week so fingers crossed I don't have any worsening of symptoms post-cut.  

🤞🏻No worsening. Just better and better!!

 

your last cut went well. But we need to see improvement. We’ve got life to live. 

Lex  4.3mg,  3/2/18  Ativan ,5 mg,  lunesta 2 mg , toprol  25 mg                                                            

 

Oct 16-28 2018 C/O to 19 mg V from 1.5 mg Ativan, 1.3 mg lunesta 

jan 22 2019- 11 mg V

jan 23 - pneumonia, 2 AB’s. 

    Hold taper

july 5- 10.72 V

July 6- 11 mg V- ugly bad

july 11- 10.72 mg V, 4.3 lex, 

              25 mg toprol

 

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Just now, Littlegrandma said:

🤞🏻No worsening. Just better and better!!

 

your last cut went well. But we need to see improvement. We’ve got life to live. 

Aw, thanks LG.  I would love to see improvement for both of us, we are in the same boat not feeling well for a long time now.  

-1/06 - 3/07 Cymbalta. Fast taper (essentially CT); withdrawal symptoms after 4 mos (didn't realize was WD)

-10/07: 100 mg Zoloft; 1 mg Klonopin - tapered off Klonopin after 4 mos. Several unsuccessful slow tapers of Zoloft; went up and down in dose a lot

-Spring 2013 back on 1 mg Klonopin to counter WD symptoms; switched over 5-6 mos from Zoloft to 35 mg citalopram
-Two attempts at slow tapering citalopram, always increased dose due to WD; also increased Klonopin to 1.25 mg in 2014, then to 1.5 mg in 2015

-8/17-9/17: After holding one year at 20 mg, feeling withdrawal symptoms due to stress - slowly increased to 25 mg. No change in symptoms after 6 months (? tolerance ?)  - decided to start citalopram taper February 2018 (still on Klonopin 1.5 mg).

Supplements: fish oil; magnesium; vitamin D3; curcumin

Citalopram taper:  2/2018 - 12/2019: 25 mg - 11.03 mg I 2020: 10.89 mg - 7.9 mg I 2021: 7.8 mg - 5.26 mg I 2022: 5.2 mg - 3.36 mg I 2023: 3.3 mg - 1.47 mg 2024: 1/5/24: 1.44 mg; 1/19/24: 1.40 mg; 1/26/24: 1.37 mg; 2/2/24: 1.34 mg; 2/9/24: 1.31 mg; 2/23/24: 1.28 mg; 3/1/24: 1.25 mg; 3/8/24: 1.22 mg; 3/15/24: 1.19 mg; 3/29/24: 1.17 mg; 4/5/24: 1.14 mg; 4/13/24: 1.11 mg; 4/20/24: 1.09 mg; 4/27/24: 1.06 mg; 5/4/24: 1.04 mg

 

 

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Hi

i have a question and would love any opinions I can get. 

 

On mar 2, I reduced my lexapro 5% down to 4.3 mg. After a week of usual symptoms-headache, nausea, burning skin, pins and needles, head pressure, anxiety, early morning cortisol rush, etc etc, I then had a decent week. Not great but do-able. Mainly fatigue, but not the trembling anxiety. It was like my body went aaaah, less lexapro. Then all hell broke loose and symptoms ramped up to as bad or worse than they’ve ever been. 

It has been a stressful couple weeks with my daughter having surgery and caring for her and the kids, 2 pre-schoolers, 12 hrs a day. I’ve not been eating as well, as I don’t seem to have time even though I’m making sure the family is getting nutritious meals. It’s been go go with little time to unwind and relax. 

 

Anyway, before the chaos began, my body seemed to be happier with less lexapro on board. 

Question is- should I taper another 5% now( it’s been 20 days). Things aren’t going to settle down around here for about 2 months. I don’t want that to interfere with my taper. 

 

Anxiety has been sky high. I have burning gut from bellybutton down and feels like every organ in my body hurts. I haven’t stopped crying for a couple days. The dp/ dr are worse than ever. I know this is not typical anxiety pre-lexapro. 

 

Just wondering if you all think I should hold a little while longer or go forward with my taper. After my last couple tapers, overall my body was happier. 

Thanks for any insight and opinions. xx lg

Lex  4.3mg,  3/2/18  Ativan ,5 mg,  lunesta 2 mg , toprol  25 mg                                                            

 

Oct 16-28 2018 C/O to 19 mg V from 1.5 mg Ativan, 1.3 mg lunesta 

jan 22 2019- 11 mg V

jan 23 - pneumonia, 2 AB’s. 

    Hold taper

july 5- 10.72 V

July 6- 11 mg V- ugly bad

july 11- 10.72 mg V, 4.3 lex, 

              25 mg toprol

 

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