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Yet again, another awesome tip! I'll no doubt have to try that. 

 

You're welcome and I hope you are doing good as well. 

😊

1993-1997 Prozac 20mg 

1997 Paxil 10mg     1998 Zyban

2005-2010 Celexa 20mg    

2005-2014 Xanax .5mg prn

2010-2022 Lexapro 40mg tapered, last dose 2/12/22             

2014 Zoloft 10mg

2014-2022 Seroquel 800mg tapered, last dose 7/13/22           

2022 Klonopin .5mg prn (haven't used it yet)

Lexapro start taper 12/16/21 - 40mg - 30mg, 1/2/22 - 20mg, 1/15/22 - 10mg, 2/1/22 - 5mg, 2/12/22 - 0mg. 

Seroquel start taper 12/16/21 - 800mg - 600mg, 1/2/22 - 400mg, 1/15/22 - 300mg, 2/12/22 - 200mg, 3/1/22 - 150mg, 3/15/22 - 100mg, 4/1/22 - 50mg, 4/15/22 - 25mg,   5/1/22 - 12mg, 5/15/22 - 6mg, 6/15/22 - 3mg, 7/13/22 - 0mg.   

Currently taking magnesium, fish oil, calcium and vitamin D3. Cut down processed foods and sugar, no alcohol or caffeine.

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On 5/11/2023 at 6:49 PM, Heath said:

Like yesterday in hospital we wife and I were talking and I started crying with anxiety and worry. These feelings went on from around 10 am till 2pm about.

 

On 5/14/2023 at 7:41 PM, Heath said:

Would you think this sounds like the emotional spiral? Fear type, or plain old ruminating, or neuro emotions? 

 

Hi Heath, and so glad you got in and treated for the heart attack.  Also, so sorry.

I vote for spiral and just some immediate emotional reactions and fears after something as major as a heart attack.

How many stents(?stints) or balloons?

 

When up to it, not before......use Drugs.com to check your new heart meds and become familiar with them.   Just use the top box.   And then check Interactions too.  You may be familiar with how we recommend to just space out interacting drugs from each other by 2 hours?  Change timing..... just an hour at a time.

 

Chances are, that in time your cardiologist may reduce and then take you off the blood thinner.  Patience required.  Oh, and a heart friendly diet.  I know ChessieCat got lipids down quite a bit by diet alone.......so check her thread to see if ideas there.  And then maybe in time you won't need the statin.  Work with your cardiologist and GP.  Again.....patience.....be the patient as well.  💜

 

That is such a huge event.  So scary I'm sure too, to have experienced.  Learn what stresses you most.....to avoid.

I'm around sporadically.  Feeling lot's of distress, also health anxiety.  Check up tomorrow.  I worry all the time that I am a heart attack waiting to happen and want to get a preventative cardiac cath........call me kooky, as I don't think it works that way.  We'll see.

 

Oh Heath.  Godspeed on your healing.  Take your time coming back too much to mentor if it stresses you reading sometimes.  I know it can be from time to time.

 

L, P, H, and G,

mmt

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@StayHopeful @manymoretodays SH you asked “How are you doing now? Has the anxiety calmed down any? Are you still in pain from your procedure or has that lessened while you're healing? “

16 hours ago, manymoretodays said:

How many stents(?stints) or balloons?

 

As far as the heart attack and the procedure. I am fine no pain.  I go see dr In another week. Dr said no damage because I came in as soon as I did. The other dr said will see in a couple months for sure. Only one stint. And yes Dr said anxiety is normal after heart attack and recovery unfortunately. 
 

Probably the big struggle is anxiety. Dr stopped the nsaids for inflammation for about 3 or 4 joints 2 being neck and back. Can’t take nsaid until we are done with the blood thinner after 1 year. That is a big anxiety. trying to adjust to the pain without nsaid. 
 

didn’t sleep well last night due to allergies. Rough today so far. 
 

cortisol and anxiety early day is high but seems to be getting lower. Distraction works real good. Some ear and eye sensitivity. Muscles tensing and releasing. 
I am starting to feel calmer as I fall asleep at lunch at work and such . Hopefully that is a good sign. But when I wake it is panic anxiety. So I try not to close my eyes until bed time. 
 

When I have to leave work early for appointments or things change the anxiety comes on.

 

hypersensitive to things. Especially in morning , everything. Seems like concerned and complaining about every little pain and feeling 🙄. Then Get calmer in afternoon mostly. 
 

don’t want to get up and go some days. 
 

I pray these negative symptoms pass soon!

 

getting good support from wife and family and GP Dr.
Go see Psych dr next week don’t want to. 
 

Thank you for encouraging words and prayers! 

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2000-2013 Paxil - 1 year fast taper

2013-2018 merry go round
zoloft, cymbalta, lamictal, Prozac.

 Nov. 2018 lexapro 15 mgs, Dec. 2019 to Mar. 2020 taper to 10mg. Jul 2020 to October 2020 taper to 8.5 ml.
Oct 2020 reinstated to 9 ml.
Apr 2021 to Jul  taper to 7ml. Oct 2021 to Jan 2022 taper to 5.9ml, Mar 5 2022 5.8 ml, Mar 12 5.7ml, Mar 20 5.6ml, Mar 27 5.5ml, April 23 5.4ml, April 30 5.3ml, May 7 5.2ml,  Jul 9 2022 5.4ml, 

Klonopin prn, Allegra 180 for 3 seasons, aspirin 81 mg, plavix , nitroglycerin 0.4 mg prn, 2k mg  turmeric Qunol, 4- Trader Joe’s omega 3 -2400 mg, Pepcid 20mg,  Prilosec 40 mg, Tylenol arthritis 4 tablets daily, 350mg calm magnesium citrate, melatonin 2.5- 5mg as needed to sleep. Saline spray as needed. 

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@Heath

 

Thanks for the update - that's really good news! Glad that you didn't suffer any damage or further complications.

Hopefully, the sensitivity will go away soon. The anxiety part stinks - but it sounds like you're handling it pretty well, it's getting calmer for you and great that distraction is working again, awesome things! 😊

 

Aside from nsaid's, I've only tried topical pain relievers - asper cream, icy hot and lidocaine, cool or warm compresses, and massage, all of which has worked for me. They don't take all pain away but make it much easier to handle. I haven't tried acupuncture (I know a couple people who swear by it) or other types of alternative therapies - yet. The good thing, there might be some other choices to try that might help if you need relief in the future. 

 

Good to hear that you're doing better, every bit counts!😉

 

 

 

1993-1997 Prozac 20mg 

1997 Paxil 10mg     1998 Zyban

2005-2010 Celexa 20mg    

2005-2014 Xanax .5mg prn

2010-2022 Lexapro 40mg tapered, last dose 2/12/22             

2014 Zoloft 10mg

2014-2022 Seroquel 800mg tapered, last dose 7/13/22           

2022 Klonopin .5mg prn (haven't used it yet)

Lexapro start taper 12/16/21 - 40mg - 30mg, 1/2/22 - 20mg, 1/15/22 - 10mg, 2/1/22 - 5mg, 2/12/22 - 0mg. 

Seroquel start taper 12/16/21 - 800mg - 600mg, 1/2/22 - 400mg, 1/15/22 - 300mg, 2/12/22 - 200mg, 3/1/22 - 150mg, 3/15/22 - 100mg, 4/1/22 - 50mg, 4/15/22 - 25mg,   5/1/22 - 12mg, 5/15/22 - 6mg, 6/15/22 - 3mg, 7/13/22 - 0mg.   

Currently taking magnesium, fish oil, calcium and vitamin D3. Cut down processed foods and sugar, no alcohol or caffeine.

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On 5/22/2023 at 4:36 PM, manymoretodays said:

vote for spiral and just some immediate emotional reactions and fears after something as major as a heart attack.

 Yes mmt that sounds rt. And my gp agrees. She says you having lexapro withdrawals and it is normal to have anxiety after this trauma. 

the spiral worry anxiety thoughts are unpredictable rt now it seems. Wake up with some anxiety then have a great day being normal no wd. then the next morning wake up anxiety then later feeling a sensation or pain or thought and here comes the spiral. 
Im trying to get a handle on what’s what . Everything gets a little normal and then cold bath doesn’t do what it normally does. Don’t want to eat anything then can’t get enough to eat. 
 

sometimes I tell myself whatever this is normal and I have wd and move on.  Then other times it’s can’t make it poor pitiful me sitting in car eating lunch by myself. 
 

engaging and taking to people really helps

 

thanks mmt
 

2000-2013 Paxil - 1 year fast taper

2013-2018 merry go round
zoloft, cymbalta, lamictal, Prozac.

 Nov. 2018 lexapro 15 mgs, Dec. 2019 to Mar. 2020 taper to 10mg. Jul 2020 to October 2020 taper to 8.5 ml.
Oct 2020 reinstated to 9 ml.
Apr 2021 to Jul  taper to 7ml. Oct 2021 to Jan 2022 taper to 5.9ml, Mar 5 2022 5.8 ml, Mar 12 5.7ml, Mar 20 5.6ml, Mar 27 5.5ml, April 23 5.4ml, April 30 5.3ml, May 7 5.2ml,  Jul 9 2022 5.4ml, 

Klonopin prn, Allegra 180 for 3 seasons, aspirin 81 mg, plavix , nitroglycerin 0.4 mg prn, 2k mg  turmeric Qunol, 4- Trader Joe’s omega 3 -2400 mg, Pepcid 20mg,  Prilosec 40 mg, Tylenol arthritis 4 tablets daily, 350mg calm magnesium citrate, melatonin 2.5- 5mg as needed to sleep. Saline spray as needed. 

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Does anyone else wake in a panic wide awake after only a few minutes of sleep?  It’s just like cortisol in morning. 

2000-2013 Paxil - 1 year fast taper

2013-2018 merry go round
zoloft, cymbalta, lamictal, Prozac.

 Nov. 2018 lexapro 15 mgs, Dec. 2019 to Mar. 2020 taper to 10mg. Jul 2020 to October 2020 taper to 8.5 ml.
Oct 2020 reinstated to 9 ml.
Apr 2021 to Jul  taper to 7ml. Oct 2021 to Jan 2022 taper to 5.9ml, Mar 5 2022 5.8 ml, Mar 12 5.7ml, Mar 20 5.6ml, Mar 27 5.5ml, April 23 5.4ml, April 30 5.3ml, May 7 5.2ml,  Jul 9 2022 5.4ml, 

Klonopin prn, Allegra 180 for 3 seasons, aspirin 81 mg, plavix , nitroglycerin 0.4 mg prn, 2k mg  turmeric Qunol, 4- Trader Joe’s omega 3 -2400 mg, Pepcid 20mg,  Prilosec 40 mg, Tylenol arthritis 4 tablets daily, 350mg calm magnesium citrate, melatonin 2.5- 5mg as needed to sleep. Saline spray as needed. 

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Hi Heath. I just popped over to catch up on your news. 

So sorry to read about your heart attack but glad that you caught it early and have treatment in place.

 

You certainly don't need more complications when you're in WD and have a bad back - that is so rough to deal with.

 

I hope things settle down for you soon and you get a nice long window so you can focus on your recovery from the cardiac event

 

HISTORY

1995 - 2006: One at a time I've tried Zoloft, a MAOI for a short time, Cipramil, and Effexor for a short time (hell)

Lexapro career began 2006: 10 mg. 2014↘️tapered over months to less than 5 mg by cutting tablets and skipping doses. GP convinced me to ↗️to 10mg. 2018↗️20 mg. 2022↗️30 mg. 2021 Occasional 75 mg Lyrica for anxiety. 
Dec 2022: Trial 5 mg dextroamphetamine once a day. Began Lex taper Dec 22: 30 mg↘️20 mg (no symptoms). Jan 2023 dextroamphetamine 5mg x 3 daily. Switched to 40 mg Lisdexamfetamine Aug 23 due to international travel.

CURRENT

Daily: Lisdexamfetamine 40 mg once a day, Doxycycline 50 mg for skin (am) Supps: Fish oil. Magnesium and Turmeric, Women's 50+ multi (pm)

Occasional: Panadol/Nurofen/Meloxicam for headaches/arthritis; doxylamine for sleep

Lexapro taper 2023 16 Jan ↘️10 mg, (bad physical WDs) 27 Jan↗️15 mg 13 Feb↘️12 mg. 6 Mar↘️10 mg 20 Mar➡️crossover to liquid 31 Mar↘️8.5 mg. 24 Apr↘️7.25 mg. 17 May↘️7 mg. 31 May↘️6 mg, 6 week hold Switch to slide 10 July↘️5.8↘️5.6↘️5.4mg 7 Aug↘️5.2↘️5.1↘️5mg. Crossover to generic tablets from 4 Sept 23. Still holding at 5 mg, 27 Dec 23.

 

Anything I write here is my opinion based on my experiences. It is not medical advice.

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@Fifree
thanks for stopping by with the encouraging words!

2000-2013 Paxil - 1 year fast taper

2013-2018 merry go round
zoloft, cymbalta, lamictal, Prozac.

 Nov. 2018 lexapro 15 mgs, Dec. 2019 to Mar. 2020 taper to 10mg. Jul 2020 to October 2020 taper to 8.5 ml.
Oct 2020 reinstated to 9 ml.
Apr 2021 to Jul  taper to 7ml. Oct 2021 to Jan 2022 taper to 5.9ml, Mar 5 2022 5.8 ml, Mar 12 5.7ml, Mar 20 5.6ml, Mar 27 5.5ml, April 23 5.4ml, April 30 5.3ml, May 7 5.2ml,  Jul 9 2022 5.4ml, 

Klonopin prn, Allegra 180 for 3 seasons, aspirin 81 mg, plavix , nitroglycerin 0.4 mg prn, 2k mg  turmeric Qunol, 4- Trader Joe’s omega 3 -2400 mg, Pepcid 20mg,  Prilosec 40 mg, Tylenol arthritis 4 tablets daily, 350mg calm magnesium citrate, melatonin 2.5- 5mg as needed to sleep. Saline spray as needed. 

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The mornings have been brutal this week. Today was filled with ruminating worry thoughts. Lot of pacing. Talk to counselor today. I’m trying to figure out how to practice letting the thoughts go or do something about it. I am starting to think I may be having some ruminating worry thoughts about updosing lexapro or not. And the other health problems thoughts just ruminating. Trying to accept what I can’t change and do what I can when I can do something about it. 

2000-2013 Paxil - 1 year fast taper

2013-2018 merry go round
zoloft, cymbalta, lamictal, Prozac.

 Nov. 2018 lexapro 15 mgs, Dec. 2019 to Mar. 2020 taper to 10mg. Jul 2020 to October 2020 taper to 8.5 ml.
Oct 2020 reinstated to 9 ml.
Apr 2021 to Jul  taper to 7ml. Oct 2021 to Jan 2022 taper to 5.9ml, Mar 5 2022 5.8 ml, Mar 12 5.7ml, Mar 20 5.6ml, Mar 27 5.5ml, April 23 5.4ml, April 30 5.3ml, May 7 5.2ml,  Jul 9 2022 5.4ml, 

Klonopin prn, Allegra 180 for 3 seasons, aspirin 81 mg, plavix , nitroglycerin 0.4 mg prn, 2k mg  turmeric Qunol, 4- Trader Joe’s omega 3 -2400 mg, Pepcid 20mg,  Prilosec 40 mg, Tylenol arthritis 4 tablets daily, 350mg calm magnesium citrate, melatonin 2.5- 5mg as needed to sleep. Saline spray as needed. 

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The waking in panic fear is a symptom of withdrawal correct?


the ruminating thoughts seem to form in the morning after the waking panic fear. Then they compile. 
 

With some good advice , yesterday I used a mantra and repeated over and over. I also described what I saw over and over. This helped a lot. I felt normal about 2 or 3 hrs after waking in panic.


Then I fell asleep at break for about 2 or 3 minutes and woke in a panic. This caused irritability and anxiety and didn’t sleep good. For some reason when I fall asleep I wake in a panic. 

2000-2013 Paxil - 1 year fast taper

2013-2018 merry go round
zoloft, cymbalta, lamictal, Prozac.

 Nov. 2018 lexapro 15 mgs, Dec. 2019 to Mar. 2020 taper to 10mg. Jul 2020 to October 2020 taper to 8.5 ml.
Oct 2020 reinstated to 9 ml.
Apr 2021 to Jul  taper to 7ml. Oct 2021 to Jan 2022 taper to 5.9ml, Mar 5 2022 5.8 ml, Mar 12 5.7ml, Mar 20 5.6ml, Mar 27 5.5ml, April 23 5.4ml, April 30 5.3ml, May 7 5.2ml,  Jul 9 2022 5.4ml, 

Klonopin prn, Allegra 180 for 3 seasons, aspirin 81 mg, plavix , nitroglycerin 0.4 mg prn, 2k mg  turmeric Qunol, 4- Trader Joe’s omega 3 -2400 mg, Pepcid 20mg,  Prilosec 40 mg, Tylenol arthritis 4 tablets daily, 350mg calm magnesium citrate, melatonin 2.5- 5mg as needed to sleep. Saline spray as needed. 

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Hi Heath, yes, waking in a panic is a symptom of withdrawal, I have also read about people having it as a symptom of Covid/long Covid and Covid shot injured. I belong to a couple of FB support groups for both. It all goes back to the CNS being destabilized. I’m shot injured and had that for many months. 2+ years later I am now able to occasionally get in a toxic nap. But I haven’t woken up in a panic for quite some time. You’ll get there, it will just some time. 
 

I know it’s tough, hang there.

1998-2015 Zoloft. 100mg

2015 Straight switch to Wellbutrin by GP who claimed Zoloft stopped working; I was experiencing occasional brain zaps. 3 months later Wellbutrin  XR. Highly activating. Lost ability to sleep. Seroquel x3 nights. Horrible reaction. Straight switch back to Zoloft, began taper. Found SA  after tapering 25 mgs a week to 25mgs and began experiencing W/D.

6/21/19 5.05 mg; 9/6/19 4.8 mg; 4/24/20 4.57 mg; 8/27/21 4.43 mg

9/20-9/25/21 xover to new RX from expired meds

10/22/21 4.13 mg; 11/26/21 3.93 mg; 4/15/22 3.74 mg; 6/3/22 3.54 mg; 8/5/22 3.38; 9/30/22 3.19; 11/18/22 3.03; 12/30/22 2.88; 2/17/23 2.74; 3/24/23 2.60; 5/12/23 2.47;  6/23/23 2.35; 8/11/23 2.24; 9/15/23 2.13; 10/20/23 2.02; 11/24/23 1.92; 1/12/24 1.83; 2/17/24 1.72; 3/23/24 1.64

Supplements: Natural Calm magnesium, Vitamin C Vitamin D during winter.

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Thanks @Believer!  It is definitely tough. I had it for about a week last summer. It seems to be a time ting. Trying to be patient with all that’s going on atm . Thank God I am calmer in the evening atm. 

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2000-2013 Paxil - 1 year fast taper

2013-2018 merry go round
zoloft, cymbalta, lamictal, Prozac.

 Nov. 2018 lexapro 15 mgs, Dec. 2019 to Mar. 2020 taper to 10mg. Jul 2020 to October 2020 taper to 8.5 ml.
Oct 2020 reinstated to 9 ml.
Apr 2021 to Jul  taper to 7ml. Oct 2021 to Jan 2022 taper to 5.9ml, Mar 5 2022 5.8 ml, Mar 12 5.7ml, Mar 20 5.6ml, Mar 27 5.5ml, April 23 5.4ml, April 30 5.3ml, May 7 5.2ml,  Jul 9 2022 5.4ml, 

Klonopin prn, Allegra 180 for 3 seasons, aspirin 81 mg, plavix , nitroglycerin 0.4 mg prn, 2k mg  turmeric Qunol, 4- Trader Joe’s omega 3 -2400 mg, Pepcid 20mg,  Prilosec 40 mg, Tylenol arthritis 4 tablets daily, 350mg calm magnesium citrate, melatonin 2.5- 5mg as needed to sleep. Saline spray as needed. 

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Need help guys.

please no negative alarming text

struggling worrying about updosing. It’s been a month since heart attack. And no Celebrex for pain. I had 3 good days last week and got off schedule ( getting up excercise). For about 4 or 5 days. 

Feel like I want to jump out of my skin, Crying, pacing, ruminating, obsessive worry thoughts, having fear of anxiety. stomach stays tight. constant worry about holding or updosing.

if I feel pain or twitch in feet , back , neck or any anxiety it sends my thoughts round and round. I’m learning skills.

 

Does it get easier to feel these or will it always be an emergency that I have to do something about it now ??
 

I was given ssri and Celebrex for back pain and anxiety years ago. There were several life events within that 5 year period 23 years ago. I am fighting thoughts that I need to take the lexapro for pain and stress. The thoughts of how can I do this and work for my family etc. all the negative ruminations. Worrying is this me or wd or both and what to do. 
 

Elliptical and cold shower every morning. Ice bath after work. Dunk face in ice water about 4 times a day at work.  Taking klonopin to sleep as needed. 
Breathing meditating 2 - 3 times a day
 

Currently I am calm in evening. If the day is not spent worrying or talking about it. 
 

today was first day I made it without talking to wife or anyone about it- wd , medicine, symptoms, can I live at current dose, etc. 

 

well except for talking to you guys it’s afternoon now. 
 

and today is first day I didn’t read google about any of it symptoms, etc. 

 

im very irritable and stomach tight

 

I did start with a therapist in April. Cbt. Working on thoughts . I’ve read dare and Clare weeks before. We will start on the winning the war in your mind book and work book this week. I spent half a day worrying about which book to use for therapy. 
 

I got to work for family and focusing is a huge problem rt now. Trying to distract.

 

wife doesn’t want me to updose. she supports me. This is a pressure worry on me. Gp doesn’t want me to updose.
 

Therapist mentioned that updose is an option. She is very smart and been doing this for over 30 years. she holds me accountable for not doing what I’m supposed to. 
 

I believe if I can stop the obsessive ruminating worrying about all this then it will pass. 
 

I am struggling it is tough 

 

the being on hi alert is it me or anxiety or stress. 

 

visit with p dr went well. Visit with heart dr went well maybe get off some of the meds soon he said. But 1 year for blood thinner. I think it may be causing some anxiety??
 

6:30 am breakfast 

pepcid

turmeric

tylenol

Allegra

magnisium

 

9:30 am 

prasugrel 

baby aspirin 

 

12:30 pm

1200 mg epa dha omega 3

1000 mg turmeric

1000 mg Tylenol 

 

3 pm

turmeric same

omega 3 same

 

8:30

lipitor 40 mg

losartan potassium 12.5 mg

 

9 pm

magnesium

2.5 mg to 5 mg melatonin .

.5 klonopin

 

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2000-2013 Paxil - 1 year fast taper

2013-2018 merry go round
zoloft, cymbalta, lamictal, Prozac.

 Nov. 2018 lexapro 15 mgs, Dec. 2019 to Mar. 2020 taper to 10mg. Jul 2020 to October 2020 taper to 8.5 ml.
Oct 2020 reinstated to 9 ml.
Apr 2021 to Jul  taper to 7ml. Oct 2021 to Jan 2022 taper to 5.9ml, Mar 5 2022 5.8 ml, Mar 12 5.7ml, Mar 20 5.6ml, Mar 27 5.5ml, April 23 5.4ml, April 30 5.3ml, May 7 5.2ml,  Jul 9 2022 5.4ml, 

Klonopin prn, Allegra 180 for 3 seasons, aspirin 81 mg, plavix , nitroglycerin 0.4 mg prn, 2k mg  turmeric Qunol, 4- Trader Joe’s omega 3 -2400 mg, Pepcid 20mg,  Prilosec 40 mg, Tylenol arthritis 4 tablets daily, 350mg calm magnesium citrate, melatonin 2.5- 5mg as needed to sleep. Saline spray as needed. 

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If the anxiety follows the cortisol that would mean its withdrawal ? 

or could that also mean anxiety not wd? 

2000-2013 Paxil - 1 year fast taper

2013-2018 merry go round
zoloft, cymbalta, lamictal, Prozac.

 Nov. 2018 lexapro 15 mgs, Dec. 2019 to Mar. 2020 taper to 10mg. Jul 2020 to October 2020 taper to 8.5 ml.
Oct 2020 reinstated to 9 ml.
Apr 2021 to Jul  taper to 7ml. Oct 2021 to Jan 2022 taper to 5.9ml, Mar 5 2022 5.8 ml, Mar 12 5.7ml, Mar 20 5.6ml, Mar 27 5.5ml, April 23 5.4ml, April 30 5.3ml, May 7 5.2ml,  Jul 9 2022 5.4ml, 

Klonopin prn, Allegra 180 for 3 seasons, aspirin 81 mg, plavix , nitroglycerin 0.4 mg prn, 2k mg  turmeric Qunol, 4- Trader Joe’s omega 3 -2400 mg, Pepcid 20mg,  Prilosec 40 mg, Tylenol arthritis 4 tablets daily, 350mg calm magnesium citrate, melatonin 2.5- 5mg as needed to sleep. Saline spray as needed. 

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I guess the ruminating obsessive worry thoughts are bad in early day.  
In the evening after 5 pm they are not there ,

unless something is already there from all day maybe. Or there is a continued conversation about it . 
 

like the rumination in my head has dropped about 70% since the above 1st post today. About 1 hr. Went on all day after something triggered this morning. 
 

Rt now I’m looking at this jobs in the shop and thinking about working, I’m in the present rt now. It’s 4:30 pm

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2000-2013 Paxil - 1 year fast taper

2013-2018 merry go round
zoloft, cymbalta, lamictal, Prozac.

 Nov. 2018 lexapro 15 mgs, Dec. 2019 to Mar. 2020 taper to 10mg. Jul 2020 to October 2020 taper to 8.5 ml.
Oct 2020 reinstated to 9 ml.
Apr 2021 to Jul  taper to 7ml. Oct 2021 to Jan 2022 taper to 5.9ml, Mar 5 2022 5.8 ml, Mar 12 5.7ml, Mar 20 5.6ml, Mar 27 5.5ml, April 23 5.4ml, April 30 5.3ml, May 7 5.2ml,  Jul 9 2022 5.4ml, 

Klonopin prn, Allegra 180 for 3 seasons, aspirin 81 mg, plavix , nitroglycerin 0.4 mg prn, 2k mg  turmeric Qunol, 4- Trader Joe’s omega 3 -2400 mg, Pepcid 20mg,  Prilosec 40 mg, Tylenol arthritis 4 tablets daily, 350mg calm magnesium citrate, melatonin 2.5- 5mg as needed to sleep. Saline spray as needed. 

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Deciding on which book to help with ruminating thoughts triggered it this morning- all day. 
 

and one time it was nothing it just started


 

just now I felt good and went to order the book and it triggered anxiety again. 

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2000-2013 Paxil - 1 year fast taper

2013-2018 merry go round
zoloft, cymbalta, lamictal, Prozac.

 Nov. 2018 lexapro 15 mgs, Dec. 2019 to Mar. 2020 taper to 10mg. Jul 2020 to October 2020 taper to 8.5 ml.
Oct 2020 reinstated to 9 ml.
Apr 2021 to Jul  taper to 7ml. Oct 2021 to Jan 2022 taper to 5.9ml, Mar 5 2022 5.8 ml, Mar 12 5.7ml, Mar 20 5.6ml, Mar 27 5.5ml, April 23 5.4ml, April 30 5.3ml, May 7 5.2ml,  Jul 9 2022 5.4ml, 

Klonopin prn, Allegra 180 for 3 seasons, aspirin 81 mg, plavix , nitroglycerin 0.4 mg prn, 2k mg  turmeric Qunol, 4- Trader Joe’s omega 3 -2400 mg, Pepcid 20mg,  Prilosec 40 mg, Tylenol arthritis 4 tablets daily, 350mg calm magnesium citrate, melatonin 2.5- 5mg as needed to sleep. Saline spray as needed. 

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@Heath

 

I don't think it's You, I think it's a particularly bad wave, that has thrown you for a loop. You've been struggling with your health issues, family health issues and the anxiety stemming from them for a while now. This one's more difficult because of what you've been going through and is way out staying it's welcome. Aside from all that, you are normally on your game.

 

Could you be worrying about up dosing too much? You've been at your current dose for almost a year and you did have some stabilization at that dose before the new stress happened. All the stress has probably destabilized you to a point where it's like a taper change, and your body's just trying to stabilize again.

 

3 hours ago, Heath said:

Elliptical and cold shower every morning. Ice bath after work. Dunk face in ice water about 4 times a day at work.  Taking klonopin to sleep as needed. 
Breathing meditating 2 - 3 times a day

 

You're doing everything you can to distract, cope and get back to where you normally are, I have no doubt that you can and will get through this.

 

The rumination and anxiety are skewing your thinking and playing on your fears - It's gotten easier in the past and it will again. You're doing a lot of positives - working, seeing a therapist, taking care of yourself and you have a lot of support. You're still doing good things, holding everything down no matter how hard and you're making good choices regardless. That's always great!

 

I don't know if this helps. I'm so sorry you're feeling so bad and having such a hard time.😔

Hang in there, I believe you can do this. 💪

1993-1997 Prozac 20mg 

1997 Paxil 10mg     1998 Zyban

2005-2010 Celexa 20mg    

2005-2014 Xanax .5mg prn

2010-2022 Lexapro 40mg tapered, last dose 2/12/22             

2014 Zoloft 10mg

2014-2022 Seroquel 800mg tapered, last dose 7/13/22           

2022 Klonopin .5mg prn (haven't used it yet)

Lexapro start taper 12/16/21 - 40mg - 30mg, 1/2/22 - 20mg, 1/15/22 - 10mg, 2/1/22 - 5mg, 2/12/22 - 0mg. 

Seroquel start taper 12/16/21 - 800mg - 600mg, 1/2/22 - 400mg, 1/15/22 - 300mg, 2/12/22 - 200mg, 3/1/22 - 150mg, 3/15/22 - 100mg, 4/1/22 - 50mg, 4/15/22 - 25mg,   5/1/22 - 12mg, 5/15/22 - 6mg, 6/15/22 - 3mg, 7/13/22 - 0mg.   

Currently taking magnesium, fish oil, calcium and vitamin D3. Cut down processed foods and sugar, no alcohol or caffeine.

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1 hour ago, StayHopeful said:

Could you be worrying about up dosing too much?

No and yes. Just worrying about updosing period. 


im struggling with ruminating obsessive worry thoughts it seems. I hope you are doing well. It’s so weird that it’s triggered by some stress or thought in morning time . And then evening time pretty calm . Ruminating worry gone. Im sorry I haven’t been commenting and checking everyone. I’m signing off at 8:30 pm to calm down. 
Thank you SH

2000-2013 Paxil - 1 year fast taper

2013-2018 merry go round
zoloft, cymbalta, lamictal, Prozac.

 Nov. 2018 lexapro 15 mgs, Dec. 2019 to Mar. 2020 taper to 10mg. Jul 2020 to October 2020 taper to 8.5 ml.
Oct 2020 reinstated to 9 ml.
Apr 2021 to Jul  taper to 7ml. Oct 2021 to Jan 2022 taper to 5.9ml, Mar 5 2022 5.8 ml, Mar 12 5.7ml, Mar 20 5.6ml, Mar 27 5.5ml, April 23 5.4ml, April 30 5.3ml, May 7 5.2ml,  Jul 9 2022 5.4ml, 

Klonopin prn, Allegra 180 for 3 seasons, aspirin 81 mg, plavix , nitroglycerin 0.4 mg prn, 2k mg  turmeric Qunol, 4- Trader Joe’s omega 3 -2400 mg, Pepcid 20mg,  Prilosec 40 mg, Tylenol arthritis 4 tablets daily, 350mg calm magnesium citrate, melatonin 2.5- 5mg as needed to sleep. Saline spray as needed. 

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Sleep has only been 5 to 6 hrs past 2 or 3 days. Dog had surgery and a lot of moving around. Sleeping in different places etc. 

I usually take about  275  mg magnesium in morning and 175 at night.
I may start holding full 350 mg magnesium for night time? what do the mods think ? Read schedules first

 

this week 

Take .5 mg Klonapin as needed (starting to do every night)and melatonin and some magnesium around 8:30- 9:30 pm

fall asleep maybe 9:30 10:00.  Wake up at 2:30 or 3:30 or 4:30 am. Usually read and fall back asleep few minutes then wake up etc. make myself get out of bed at 5:15am. 
stretch feet , take warm shower then cold shower, take morning meds. Eat something . Go to gym. Walk on elliptical for 30 minutes. Eat egg, toast. 
 

Get to work and feel out of it tired, anxiety, stomach tight. Can’t concentrate. Think bad thoughts. Can’t seem to do a little thing, very irritated. 
 

can’t stop tight stomach any ideas ?


 

9:30 am dunk face in ice water feel better take break.  Take baby aspirin and blood thinner. Dunk face again. 
 

tredge through 

 

11:30 lunch not hungry. Listen to the calm app and do mindfulness breathing and fall asleep for a few minutes. Then wake a little panicky. 
 

move through it again. Most of work day is spent in daze like funk. I’m not focused in present. I seem to focus on  thoughts in background, what if , what do I do, how do I sleep, should I continue with therapist , how long can I stand it. 
 

at 4 pm start feeling better on some days. Could be 5 or 6,

 

yesterday it was 2:30 pm I actually focused on job and trained 7 people. Then went to yoga for first time since heart attack and back pain. I had fear. I stayed about 30 minutes and left. I felt some pains in neck and back and felt agitated. 

 

go home sit in 68 to 75 f degree water tub for about 3 minutes. 
 

sit on back porch and watch birds and read about things on vagus nerve , success stories, or listen to calm and meditate and breathe and warm up. feel good. If I fall asleep for a few minutes on porch I may feel a little panicky waking. 
 

eat a little for supper take warm shower. Get ready for bed. 
bed down . 
 

the Klonapin doesn’t appear to put me asleep like it did a few weeks ago. I rarely ever take it. But it seems like I’m getting more on high alert . 
 

currently 12 pm and anxiety is high. I am on high alert. Trying to breathe. 
 

I am struggling with decision to updose. I appreciate BM and everyone’s post on this already . I am trying to work and focus. I appreciate any thoughts on this 

 

 

2000-2013 Paxil - 1 year fast taper

2013-2018 merry go round
zoloft, cymbalta, lamictal, Prozac.

 Nov. 2018 lexapro 15 mgs, Dec. 2019 to Mar. 2020 taper to 10mg. Jul 2020 to October 2020 taper to 8.5 ml.
Oct 2020 reinstated to 9 ml.
Apr 2021 to Jul  taper to 7ml. Oct 2021 to Jan 2022 taper to 5.9ml, Mar 5 2022 5.8 ml, Mar 12 5.7ml, Mar 20 5.6ml, Mar 27 5.5ml, April 23 5.4ml, April 30 5.3ml, May 7 5.2ml,  Jul 9 2022 5.4ml, 

Klonopin prn, Allegra 180 for 3 seasons, aspirin 81 mg, plavix , nitroglycerin 0.4 mg prn, 2k mg  turmeric Qunol, 4- Trader Joe’s omega 3 -2400 mg, Pepcid 20mg,  Prilosec 40 mg, Tylenol arthritis 4 tablets daily, 350mg calm magnesium citrate, melatonin 2.5- 5mg as needed to sleep. Saline spray as needed. 

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I think I may have discovered the tight stomach anxiety that started this week. I ran out of my pur gum earlier last week so I found a pack of gum that was not sugar free. So I thought. I definitely did not want sugar free. Well Friday evening it was empty. And in real small print it says sugar free and on the edge in tiny print it said aspartame and phenylalanine.

 

the week of may28 to June 2 I had 3 good days . This past week was hell. So it may be that it was the aspartame? 

 



I also still wonder if blood thinner prasugrel may be causing some anxiety. I’ve been hot and cold. 
 

 So slept better last night 2.5 meletonin 9:30 pm read wake up 10:30 pm 2.5 melatonin, wake up at 3 am .5 Klonapin wake up at 6:30. 
 

Im thinking of taking all the magnesium at night instead of some in morning. And I’m thinking of adding vitamin c. Does anyone have good results on vitamin c and what would be a good dose to start with ? 


Cold shower and excercise. Went grocery shopping with wife. Stomach tight with anxiety constant. Later mindfulness breathing and fell asleep for a few minutes woke in panic. Got up stomach tight again rode tractor some . Got nervous about inflammation in neck and back and stopped. Even though I don’t have to sit while driving. Anxiety still there. Cold tub. Got out mindfulness again. read SA symptoms and self care about vitamin c. 
I read vitamin c helps with cortisol. It seems turmeric is starting to help with inflammation after a month. Still scared to do something’s. 

my son got me to go to lake at 4:30pm stomach tightness and anxiety is dropping. So I am going. 
 

im still struggling with the thoughts I challenge myself daily to not talk about it. It is so hard. 
 

don’t seem to want to do anything. 
 

anxiety is following cortisol and stress makes it worse 

 

 

2000-2013 Paxil - 1 year fast taper

2013-2018 merry go round
zoloft, cymbalta, lamictal, Prozac.

 Nov. 2018 lexapro 15 mgs, Dec. 2019 to Mar. 2020 taper to 10mg. Jul 2020 to October 2020 taper to 8.5 ml.
Oct 2020 reinstated to 9 ml.
Apr 2021 to Jul  taper to 7ml. Oct 2021 to Jan 2022 taper to 5.9ml, Mar 5 2022 5.8 ml, Mar 12 5.7ml, Mar 20 5.6ml, Mar 27 5.5ml, April 23 5.4ml, April 30 5.3ml, May 7 5.2ml,  Jul 9 2022 5.4ml, 

Klonopin prn, Allegra 180 for 3 seasons, aspirin 81 mg, plavix , nitroglycerin 0.4 mg prn, 2k mg  turmeric Qunol, 4- Trader Joe’s omega 3 -2400 mg, Pepcid 20mg,  Prilosec 40 mg, Tylenol arthritis 4 tablets daily, 350mg calm magnesium citrate, melatonin 2.5- 5mg as needed to sleep. Saline spray as needed. 

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Hey Heath, 

 

Has there been any more improvement since Saturday?

 

Knowing that how you've been feeling is attributed to the aspartame and being able to stay away from it, would be very good.  Glad that you were able to go on a trip to the lake with your son. Getting away can help a lot, even if it's just for a few hours. I hope you had fun, and it was a welcomed respite.

 

On 6/10/2023 at 5:04 PM, Heath said:

im still struggling with the thoughts I challenge myself daily to not talk about it. It is so hard. 

I can relate to that. Sometimes, I feel like withdrawal itself dominates everything I say and do. I try to only bring it up outside this site, if I have to.

 

Hoping your day goes well and that you continue to see and feel improvements! 🙏

1993-1997 Prozac 20mg 

1997 Paxil 10mg     1998 Zyban

2005-2010 Celexa 20mg    

2005-2014 Xanax .5mg prn

2010-2022 Lexapro 40mg tapered, last dose 2/12/22             

2014 Zoloft 10mg

2014-2022 Seroquel 800mg tapered, last dose 7/13/22           

2022 Klonopin .5mg prn (haven't used it yet)

Lexapro start taper 12/16/21 - 40mg - 30mg, 1/2/22 - 20mg, 1/15/22 - 10mg, 2/1/22 - 5mg, 2/12/22 - 0mg. 

Seroquel start taper 12/16/21 - 800mg - 600mg, 1/2/22 - 400mg, 1/15/22 - 300mg, 2/12/22 - 200mg, 3/1/22 - 150mg, 3/15/22 - 100mg, 4/1/22 - 50mg, 4/15/22 - 25mg,   5/1/22 - 12mg, 5/15/22 - 6mg, 6/15/22 - 3mg, 7/13/22 - 0mg.   

Currently taking magnesium, fish oil, calcium and vitamin D3. Cut down processed foods and sugar, no alcohol or caffeine.

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19 minutes ago, StayHopeful said:

Hey Heath, 

 

Has there been any more improvement since Saturday?

 

Knowing that how you've been feeling is attributed to the aspartame and being able to stay away from it, would be very good.  Glad that you were able to go on a trip to the lake with your son. Getting away can help a lot, even if it's just for a few hours. I hope you had fun, and it was a welcomed respite.

 

I can relate to that. Sometimes, I feel like withdrawal itself dominates everything I say and do. I try to only bring it up outside this site, if I have to.

 

Hoping your day goes well and that you continue to see and feel improvements! 🙏

Yes Sunday was good at lake also . After discovering aspartame that lifted mood and continued to feel good until this morning. Anxiety started heavy around 7 am Tuesday. Sunday and Monday nights slept good.

I did not do elliptical Monday or Tuesday morning. And had some pain flare in neck and low back worse this morning. Maybe still trying to settle after aspartame last week. 
other than that I have no reason for the high anxiety this morning. 
 

can’t be still

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2000-2013 Paxil - 1 year fast taper

2013-2018 merry go round
zoloft, cymbalta, lamictal, Prozac.

 Nov. 2018 lexapro 15 mgs, Dec. 2019 to Mar. 2020 taper to 10mg. Jul 2020 to October 2020 taper to 8.5 ml.
Oct 2020 reinstated to 9 ml.
Apr 2021 to Jul  taper to 7ml. Oct 2021 to Jan 2022 taper to 5.9ml, Mar 5 2022 5.8 ml, Mar 12 5.7ml, Mar 20 5.6ml, Mar 27 5.5ml, April 23 5.4ml, April 30 5.3ml, May 7 5.2ml,  Jul 9 2022 5.4ml, 

Klonopin prn, Allegra 180 for 3 seasons, aspirin 81 mg, plavix , nitroglycerin 0.4 mg prn, 2k mg  turmeric Qunol, 4- Trader Joe’s omega 3 -2400 mg, Pepcid 20mg,  Prilosec 40 mg, Tylenol arthritis 4 tablets daily, 350mg calm magnesium citrate, melatonin 2.5- 5mg as needed to sleep. Saline spray as needed. 

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That's really good news!

Hopefully, the aspartame's effects on your system and body are on their way out, and the anxiety is starting to calm down, and this morning was a hiccup. 🤞

 

I'm hoping your neck and back is just a part of it. Our bodies react so weird during all this, especially our joints and muscles. I wouldn't have ever guessed that could happen without going through what I have. With the improvements that you've experienced though, I'm thinking positive and am so happy for you that you've had them!👏🎉

 

 

1993-1997 Prozac 20mg 

1997 Paxil 10mg     1998 Zyban

2005-2010 Celexa 20mg    

2005-2014 Xanax .5mg prn

2010-2022 Lexapro 40mg tapered, last dose 2/12/22             

2014 Zoloft 10mg

2014-2022 Seroquel 800mg tapered, last dose 7/13/22           

2022 Klonopin .5mg prn (haven't used it yet)

Lexapro start taper 12/16/21 - 40mg - 30mg, 1/2/22 - 20mg, 1/15/22 - 10mg, 2/1/22 - 5mg, 2/12/22 - 0mg. 

Seroquel start taper 12/16/21 - 800mg - 600mg, 1/2/22 - 400mg, 1/15/22 - 300mg, 2/12/22 - 200mg, 3/1/22 - 150mg, 3/15/22 - 100mg, 4/1/22 - 50mg, 4/15/22 - 25mg,   5/1/22 - 12mg, 5/15/22 - 6mg, 6/15/22 - 3mg, 7/13/22 - 0mg.   

Currently taking magnesium, fish oil, calcium and vitamin D3. Cut down processed foods and sugar, no alcohol or caffeine.

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I do believe the aspartame started this up again. A week 1/2 ago. Got to read fine print🙄. I thought is was sugary gum.

It seems anything that can possibly cause nervousness or anxiety will cause me problems . There is more info out now stating that aspartame causes anxiety. 
 

also I read that prasugrel, blood thinner can cause nervousness and losartan can cause insomnia. Has anyone ever experienced these two?


 

Yes the inflammation in neck and back is the main source of pain . And yes the wd and or anxiety revs up the old injuries. I can’t have Celebrex until blood thinner is done. But nurse did say I could have one every now and then but not every day. Celebrex saved me for a long time. 
 

I use ice packs and tens unit. Do not sit. Stretch, turmeric and omega 3. Ice bath. 
 

I think turmeric maybe starting to work but don’t know. Was told it can take a couple of months. 

 

it seems anxiety wd can rev up pain and pain can rev up anxiety wd. 
 

Yesterday was a real good day at work. Afternoon at home was good. Slept good last night 2.5 melatonin.  Woke at 5:15am with no panic. Snoozed a time or two . Did not make it to the gym this morning. little hurry getting to work today


6:30 am turmeric 1k, omega3 600 mg epa dha, Tylenol 1k

7am at work little back pain can’t find tens unit. Anxiety started up. Can’t focus.
 

tight stomach. 
 

7:30 losartan 12.5 mg changed to morning instead of night 

 

9:30prasugrel 10 mg blood thinner

12:30 pm Tylenol 1k, omega3 600 mg epa dha, turmeric 1k

anxiety lifted for about an hour. 

 

4 pm turmeric 1k, omega 3 1 k

 

making myself grill steaks for everyone. 
sitting on back porch in recliner not calm yet. 

 

fixing to sit in ice bath and calm down. 

 

No ruminating much today except a little worrying how can I keep going.

a little ruminating this evening now

 


 

Does anyone notice that anxiety drops after you eat?

 

I am thinking of adding 400 iu vitamin e as suggested by SA. And I would like to go up higher in turmeric and omega 3 ? 

well I know I got much better 6 months after holding after a decongestant last summer. So I pray that the wave that started after Covid in February and all this other will pass with me holding. 

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2000-2013 Paxil - 1 year fast taper

2013-2018 merry go round
zoloft, cymbalta, lamictal, Prozac.

 Nov. 2018 lexapro 15 mgs, Dec. 2019 to Mar. 2020 taper to 10mg. Jul 2020 to October 2020 taper to 8.5 ml.
Oct 2020 reinstated to 9 ml.
Apr 2021 to Jul  taper to 7ml. Oct 2021 to Jan 2022 taper to 5.9ml, Mar 5 2022 5.8 ml, Mar 12 5.7ml, Mar 20 5.6ml, Mar 27 5.5ml, April 23 5.4ml, April 30 5.3ml, May 7 5.2ml,  Jul 9 2022 5.4ml, 

Klonopin prn, Allegra 180 for 3 seasons, aspirin 81 mg, plavix , nitroglycerin 0.4 mg prn, 2k mg  turmeric Qunol, 4- Trader Joe’s omega 3 -2400 mg, Pepcid 20mg,  Prilosec 40 mg, Tylenol arthritis 4 tablets daily, 350mg calm magnesium citrate, melatonin 2.5- 5mg as needed to sleep. Saline spray as needed. 

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How can you feel so calm one evening and ready to jump out of skin the next

2000-2013 Paxil - 1 year fast taper

2013-2018 merry go round
zoloft, cymbalta, lamictal, Prozac.

 Nov. 2018 lexapro 15 mgs, Dec. 2019 to Mar. 2020 taper to 10mg. Jul 2020 to October 2020 taper to 8.5 ml.
Oct 2020 reinstated to 9 ml.
Apr 2021 to Jul  taper to 7ml. Oct 2021 to Jan 2022 taper to 5.9ml, Mar 5 2022 5.8 ml, Mar 12 5.7ml, Mar 20 5.6ml, Mar 27 5.5ml, April 23 5.4ml, April 30 5.3ml, May 7 5.2ml,  Jul 9 2022 5.4ml, 

Klonopin prn, Allegra 180 for 3 seasons, aspirin 81 mg, plavix , nitroglycerin 0.4 mg prn, 2k mg  turmeric Qunol, 4- Trader Joe’s omega 3 -2400 mg, Pepcid 20mg,  Prilosec 40 mg, Tylenol arthritis 4 tablets daily, 350mg calm magnesium citrate, melatonin 2.5- 5mg as needed to sleep. Saline spray as needed. 

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I take losartan 12.5 mg blood pressure med at 7:30 am and prasugrel 10 mg blood thinner at 9:30am. After taking prasugrel , nervous, irritable, anxiety, out of breath, want to jump out of my skin, pacing and tight stomach. 

2000-2013 Paxil - 1 year fast taper

2013-2018 merry go round
zoloft, cymbalta, lamictal, Prozac.

 Nov. 2018 lexapro 15 mgs, Dec. 2019 to Mar. 2020 taper to 10mg. Jul 2020 to October 2020 taper to 8.5 ml.
Oct 2020 reinstated to 9 ml.
Apr 2021 to Jul  taper to 7ml. Oct 2021 to Jan 2022 taper to 5.9ml, Mar 5 2022 5.8 ml, Mar 12 5.7ml, Mar 20 5.6ml, Mar 27 5.5ml, April 23 5.4ml, April 30 5.3ml, May 7 5.2ml,  Jul 9 2022 5.4ml, 

Klonopin prn, Allegra 180 for 3 seasons, aspirin 81 mg, plavix , nitroglycerin 0.4 mg prn, 2k mg  turmeric Qunol, 4- Trader Joe’s omega 3 -2400 mg, Pepcid 20mg,  Prilosec 40 mg, Tylenol arthritis 4 tablets daily, 350mg calm magnesium citrate, melatonin 2.5- 5mg as needed to sleep. Saline spray as needed. 

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Then the back and neck pain. I’m struggling to hold on at this lexapro dose . 

2000-2013 Paxil - 1 year fast taper

2013-2018 merry go round
zoloft, cymbalta, lamictal, Prozac.

 Nov. 2018 lexapro 15 mgs, Dec. 2019 to Mar. 2020 taper to 10mg. Jul 2020 to October 2020 taper to 8.5 ml.
Oct 2020 reinstated to 9 ml.
Apr 2021 to Jul  taper to 7ml. Oct 2021 to Jan 2022 taper to 5.9ml, Mar 5 2022 5.8 ml, Mar 12 5.7ml, Mar 20 5.6ml, Mar 27 5.5ml, April 23 5.4ml, April 30 5.3ml, May 7 5.2ml,  Jul 9 2022 5.4ml, 

Klonopin prn, Allegra 180 for 3 seasons, aspirin 81 mg, plavix , nitroglycerin 0.4 mg prn, 2k mg  turmeric Qunol, 4- Trader Joe’s omega 3 -2400 mg, Pepcid 20mg,  Prilosec 40 mg, Tylenol arthritis 4 tablets daily, 350mg calm magnesium citrate, melatonin 2.5- 5mg as needed to sleep. Saline spray as needed. 

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@Heath

 

Checking in to see how you're doing. Sending thoughts and hopes that things are getting better and that you're not struggling as much as you were.

 

Sending prayers 🙏

 

 

1993-1997 Prozac 20mg 

1997 Paxil 10mg     1998 Zyban

2005-2010 Celexa 20mg    

2005-2014 Xanax .5mg prn

2010-2022 Lexapro 40mg tapered, last dose 2/12/22             

2014 Zoloft 10mg

2014-2022 Seroquel 800mg tapered, last dose 7/13/22           

2022 Klonopin .5mg prn (haven't used it yet)

Lexapro start taper 12/16/21 - 40mg - 30mg, 1/2/22 - 20mg, 1/15/22 - 10mg, 2/1/22 - 5mg, 2/12/22 - 0mg. 

Seroquel start taper 12/16/21 - 800mg - 600mg, 1/2/22 - 400mg, 1/15/22 - 300mg, 2/12/22 - 200mg, 3/1/22 - 150mg, 3/15/22 - 100mg, 4/1/22 - 50mg, 4/15/22 - 25mg,   5/1/22 - 12mg, 5/15/22 - 6mg, 6/15/22 - 3mg, 7/13/22 - 0mg.   

Currently taking magnesium, fish oil, calcium and vitamin D3. Cut down processed foods and sugar, no alcohol or caffeine.

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@Heath  Stopping in to see how you are doing.

https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/24894-greatful-is-this-withdrawal-or-to-many-med-changes-at-once/

1995? Prozac,  tried several Paxil, Serzone, St John's Wart back to Prozac and Trazodone ct:d Traz

 Lexapro. Tried to stop Crash in 2015  Kindled   Hospitalized, Vybrid, Seroquel, Effexor, Abilify  Pristiq, Wellbutrin-- 2016  ended back on   Prozac and Lamictal 200mg

5/2020  thru 12/2020 taper from 20mg  Prozac  down to 3mg.  Crashed  12/13/2020 Zoloft 50mg 1/29ct  1/29/2021 Seroquel 50mg ct  2/12/2021 Wellbutrin 75mg.  Became hypo manic 2/1  6ct Trazodone 50mg 4/25  25mg 2/5/ 2021 Lamictal 150mg.  2/24  100mg   4/9  75mg   4/21 37.5 

2/16/2021 Seroquel 50xr  3/3 100mg  3/17  150mg  side effects ct   4/3 2021 Lexapro 5mg  4/14  7.5mg  4/30 10mg  5/10  7.5mg 

2021/ 5/16  5mg Lexapro   37.5 Lamictal   25mg trazadone,   xanax  .0625mg  3x a day   

Lexapro  Taper> Sept/01/2021  4.90mg>  Sept/25  4.75mg>   Oct/19 4.69mg > Nov/14 4.2mg    Jan/30/2022-- Split dosing 2x a day All liquid  4.2mg  (2.20mg at 8am & 2mg at 4pm) 2/17 4mg>  2/24  3.8mg  slow taper to  Aug/12/2022 2.04mg  2023> 2mg,  1.90mg, 1.80mg, 1.70mg, 1.5mg, 1.4mg, 1.3mg 1.2mg, 1.1mg, 1mg, 0.9mg, 0.8mg, 0.7mg 0.65mg, 0.6mg, 0.55mg, 0.5mg, 0.45mg, 0.4mg, 0.35mg, 0.3mg, 0.25,mg, back to once a day dosing 0 .1mg, 0.07mg , 0.05mg 4/1/2024   0

Lamictal  taper  4/17/ 2022 25mg, 9/9/ 22 -20mg, 9/25/22- 15mg , 10/20/22-   0

 Trazodone..2023.>down to 14mg, 7mg, 6mg  July 2023   0

Xanax  0.0625 3 x a day,  2023>  0.042 3x a day

Supplements  Magnesium glycinate, Omega 3, D3, vitamin c , zinc, NAC 

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On 6/13/2023 at 8:34 PM, Heath said:

How can you feel so calm one evening and ready to jump out of skin the next

I know exactly what you mean.... it's crazy 😧. hope you're doing alright 💓

went on Prozac 1994-99,60mg.poopout ct  back on 2001-2002,prozac weekly 2002,not working,Effexor 75 mg.?2003-mar.2004 gaining weight 8wk. taper,wellbutrin 150 mg.mar. -may 2004 ctmedfree til july 2005 back to Prozac gaining weight again,back on wellbutrin jan.2006150-300 mg.bad constipation.also was taking aygestin(hormone)perimenopausal irregular bleeding.back on Prozac around sept,?2006,hysterectomy jan30.2007(adenomyosis)off&on Prozac til 2009,citalopram about 1 mo, April 2010 no effect,Effexor again may -mar, 2011.ct,Prozac aug,-dec, 2011 &sept-nov 2012,paroxetine oct,23 2013-may 4 2014 20 mgs.tapered 6 wks.-failed RI in Oct.2014-in protracted WD.started 10 mgs. Fluoxetine May 25 2021 .Stopped fluoxetine May 2022 at 5 mgs.

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@StayHopeful @Greatful and @direstraits and everyone ! 
 

There has been a lot happening for sure! 
lots of stress! Lot of anxiety! Struggling for sure. I don’t like going to drs and making decisions about procedures and pills. 
 

Heart is healed recovered

Off Lipitor as long as diet keeps it down

Off bp med

Down to healthy weight , lost 30 lbs

waking in middle of night panic gone

No more morning panic

panic waking is gone

sleep is better 

Chiropractor is helping

Feet feel better continue healing

Elbows stopped hurting 

Figured why sugar was so high - checked after lexapro. Liquid lexapro has sugar in it and I was taking it before going to dr for labs. 

A1c is ok 5.8 

I can take hot bath epsom salt at night now without it causing anxiety . 

I had a good week or 2 

 

daily excercise and ice tub. 
started devotion at night 

 

neck got inflamed and anxiety started up

 

im having crying worry anxiety feelings during day in afternoons. like a spiral. Sometimes it happens for no reason sometimes because of pain or other stress. The crying is an anxiety type. My family wants me back and my job wants me back. I’m just not myself atm. 
I not interested in doing much . I’m not the same. The pain hinders my activity. Anxiety makes pain worse. 
still feel hot anywhere and sweat starts in bed just before waking. Maybe from blood thinner. 

 

my family member had a heart attack in past and had the same symptoms listed above and many more , anxiety crying and not wanting to do anything. For many many months about a year he says. 
 

the Lipitor side effects were horrible, It takes about a month to get over them. 
 

pollen , humidity and 100 f degree weather has also irritated nervous system. 


I still struggle to know if this all is coming from wd, heart attack, no Celebrex for pain, Lipitor side effects, blood thinner side effects or is this me . 
 

I still struggle to not talk about or read about all this. 
 

But I also read back and see improvement. 

 

weekends are tough
 

so we have changes and improvements but what does this afternoon nervous worry cry  mean ? 
Does it appear nerves are healing? 
It’s so hard to know what to do. 
 

thank you all for checking in on me. 

 

2000-2013 Paxil - 1 year fast taper

2013-2018 merry go round
zoloft, cymbalta, lamictal, Prozac.

 Nov. 2018 lexapro 15 mgs, Dec. 2019 to Mar. 2020 taper to 10mg. Jul 2020 to October 2020 taper to 8.5 ml.
Oct 2020 reinstated to 9 ml.
Apr 2021 to Jul  taper to 7ml. Oct 2021 to Jan 2022 taper to 5.9ml, Mar 5 2022 5.8 ml, Mar 12 5.7ml, Mar 20 5.6ml, Mar 27 5.5ml, April 23 5.4ml, April 30 5.3ml, May 7 5.2ml,  Jul 9 2022 5.4ml, 

Klonopin prn, Allegra 180 for 3 seasons, aspirin 81 mg, plavix , nitroglycerin 0.4 mg prn, 2k mg  turmeric Qunol, 4- Trader Joe’s omega 3 -2400 mg, Pepcid 20mg,  Prilosec 40 mg, Tylenol arthritis 4 tablets daily, 350mg calm magnesium citrate, melatonin 2.5- 5mg as needed to sleep. Saline spray as needed. 

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Struggling to get out of bed too. Especially weekend. I want to clarify I still have morning anxiety but the panic after waking has been gone for a while. It seems the worry thoughts about having anxiety and withdrawal . Stress triggers a lot of it too.

weight loss was a combination of stress and planning 

 

and worst case scenario thoughts of neck and back surgery or just going to visit dr causing a lot of anxiety. That’s how those thoughts work. Trying to hold on for 7 1/2 more months to get Celebrex again. just started turmeric again , so that excercise and chiropractor. This is a real hard time for me and my family rt know

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2000-2013 Paxil - 1 year fast taper

2013-2018 merry go round
zoloft, cymbalta, lamictal, Prozac.

 Nov. 2018 lexapro 15 mgs, Dec. 2019 to Mar. 2020 taper to 10mg. Jul 2020 to October 2020 taper to 8.5 ml.
Oct 2020 reinstated to 9 ml.
Apr 2021 to Jul  taper to 7ml. Oct 2021 to Jan 2022 taper to 5.9ml, Mar 5 2022 5.8 ml, Mar 12 5.7ml, Mar 20 5.6ml, Mar 27 5.5ml, April 23 5.4ml, April 30 5.3ml, May 7 5.2ml,  Jul 9 2022 5.4ml, 

Klonopin prn, Allegra 180 for 3 seasons, aspirin 81 mg, plavix , nitroglycerin 0.4 mg prn, 2k mg  turmeric Qunol, 4- Trader Joe’s omega 3 -2400 mg, Pepcid 20mg,  Prilosec 40 mg, Tylenol arthritis 4 tablets daily, 350mg calm magnesium citrate, melatonin 2.5- 5mg as needed to sleep. Saline spray as needed. 

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17 hours ago, Heath said:

Heart is healed recovered

Off Lipitor as long as diet keeps it down

Off bp med

Down to healthy weight , lost 30 lbs

waking in middle of night panic gone

No more morning panic

panic waking is gone

sleep is better 

Chiropractor is helping

Feet feel better continue healing

Elbows stopped hurting 

Figured why sugar was so high - checked after lexapro. Liquid lexapro has sugar in it and I was taking it before going to dr for labs. 

A1c is ok 5.8 

I can take hot bath epsom salt at night now without it causing anxiety . 

I had a good week or 2 

 

daily excercise and ice tub. 
started devotion at night 

That's some great news!! So many positive things...👏

I'm sorry about the rest of what you've been going through, though. Since your family member had the same symptoms but seems to have gotten passed them (and I hope they're doing really well), that's a good indication that they're probably common and temporary. 

 

17 hours ago, Heath said:

I still struggle to know if this all is coming from wd, heart attack, no Celebrex for pain, Lipitor side effects, blood thinner side effects or is this me . 

You know it could be a combination of all of it. Due to having so many things going on, different meds, and a bit of worrying, there's no way of knowing until the symptoms ease up and you can trace it to a cause. 

 

After looking over so many posts and other websites, anxiety seems to be a symptom that lasts the longest; stress will flair it up or it'll flair up over nothing sometimes.  Whether it happens during the night, morning or throughout the day, it's so difficult to control.😣

I'm glad you're not having the panic anymore, that helps.

 

Keeping the stress down like you're doing, is good, hard as heck to do for sure, but good. 

 

Glad to see that you're hanging in there!! 💪 😊

1993-1997 Prozac 20mg 

1997 Paxil 10mg     1998 Zyban

2005-2010 Celexa 20mg    

2005-2014 Xanax .5mg prn

2010-2022 Lexapro 40mg tapered, last dose 2/12/22             

2014 Zoloft 10mg

2014-2022 Seroquel 800mg tapered, last dose 7/13/22           

2022 Klonopin .5mg prn (haven't used it yet)

Lexapro start taper 12/16/21 - 40mg - 30mg, 1/2/22 - 20mg, 1/15/22 - 10mg, 2/1/22 - 5mg, 2/12/22 - 0mg. 

Seroquel start taper 12/16/21 - 800mg - 600mg, 1/2/22 - 400mg, 1/15/22 - 300mg, 2/12/22 - 200mg, 3/1/22 - 150mg, 3/15/22 - 100mg, 4/1/22 - 50mg, 4/15/22 - 25mg,   5/1/22 - 12mg, 5/15/22 - 6mg, 6/15/22 - 3mg, 7/13/22 - 0mg.   

Currently taking magnesium, fish oil, calcium and vitamin D3. Cut down processed foods and sugar, no alcohol or caffeine.

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11 minutes ago, StayHopeful said:

After looking over so many posts and other websites, anxiety seems to be a symptom that lasts the longest; stress will flair it up or it'll flair up over nothing sometimes. 


Thanks SH! I hope you are doing ok. I haven’t been around for a while. 
I’ve had to take a little klonopin here and there. 
Thank you so much for the encouragement! I really need it today! 

2000-2013 Paxil - 1 year fast taper

2013-2018 merry go round
zoloft, cymbalta, lamictal, Prozac.

 Nov. 2018 lexapro 15 mgs, Dec. 2019 to Mar. 2020 taper to 10mg. Jul 2020 to October 2020 taper to 8.5 ml.
Oct 2020 reinstated to 9 ml.
Apr 2021 to Jul  taper to 7ml. Oct 2021 to Jan 2022 taper to 5.9ml, Mar 5 2022 5.8 ml, Mar 12 5.7ml, Mar 20 5.6ml, Mar 27 5.5ml, April 23 5.4ml, April 30 5.3ml, May 7 5.2ml,  Jul 9 2022 5.4ml, 

Klonopin prn, Allegra 180 for 3 seasons, aspirin 81 mg, plavix , nitroglycerin 0.4 mg prn, 2k mg  turmeric Qunol, 4- Trader Joe’s omega 3 -2400 mg, Pepcid 20mg,  Prilosec 40 mg, Tylenol arthritis 4 tablets daily, 350mg calm magnesium citrate, melatonin 2.5- 5mg as needed to sleep. Saline spray as needed. 

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Did y’all have times where it was more crying or feeling of wanting to cry? 
 

and little things would set it off ?
 

it seems anxiety in morning and this cry feeling later? 
 

like I said the panic anxiety when waking fizzled away a month ago and then this cry thing started. Are these phases of healing? Headed in right direction? 

2000-2013 Paxil - 1 year fast taper

2013-2018 merry go round
zoloft, cymbalta, lamictal, Prozac.

 Nov. 2018 lexapro 15 mgs, Dec. 2019 to Mar. 2020 taper to 10mg. Jul 2020 to October 2020 taper to 8.5 ml.
Oct 2020 reinstated to 9 ml.
Apr 2021 to Jul  taper to 7ml. Oct 2021 to Jan 2022 taper to 5.9ml, Mar 5 2022 5.8 ml, Mar 12 5.7ml, Mar 20 5.6ml, Mar 27 5.5ml, April 23 5.4ml, April 30 5.3ml, May 7 5.2ml,  Jul 9 2022 5.4ml, 

Klonopin prn, Allegra 180 for 3 seasons, aspirin 81 mg, plavix , nitroglycerin 0.4 mg prn, 2k mg  turmeric Qunol, 4- Trader Joe’s omega 3 -2400 mg, Pepcid 20mg,  Prilosec 40 mg, Tylenol arthritis 4 tablets daily, 350mg calm magnesium citrate, melatonin 2.5- 5mg as needed to sleep. Saline spray as needed. 

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Yes, this has happened to me. Yet last night I have had the best nights sleep yet and things are calming down again. All seems like part of the process.

Current Psychiatric Medications

  1. Paxil 10mg daily (a.m.) 2017 - Present
  2. Carbamazepine IR  190 mg twice daily (380mg Daily) 2011 - Present (Currently Tapering)

Past Psychiatric Medications From 1994 to August 2021   Seroquel (in Recovery since August 2021 final dose 6.25mg), Depakote, Lithium, Risperidone, Xanax, Lamotrigene, Olanzapine, Lorazepam, Welbutrin, Trazodone, Oxazepam, Gabapentin, Abilify, Topiramate, Prazosin, Ambien (See Attached Spreadsheet And Seroquel Tapering And WIthdrawal Summary)

Current Non Psychiatric Medications Levothyroxine 88mcg (a.m.)-Vitamin D3 1000 IU (p.m.)-Fexofenadine 180 mg twice daily -Clonidine 0.1 mg (p.m.)-Azelastine Nasal Spray

Other - Fish Oil Twice Daily-Multi-Vitamin (a.m.)-Vitamin C 1000mg Daily (a.m.)-Saline Nasal Spray-Salsalate 750mg twice daily PRN, Diclofenac Gel on affected joint PRN-Magnesium Citrate 250mg twice daily, Betaine HCL & Digestine Enzymes With Meals

Quitting Seroquel_A Vacation In Hell_Redacted.pdf

Other Documents https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/26099-feralcatman-recovering-from-seroquel/?do=findComment&comment=633907

 

 

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