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Another scream into the wind!!! saw someone else had stopped putting in experience as the partisipation is so low !!! anyway heart has been racing for months.... so much I was debating A and E and in desperation took an antihistamine.... wow. worked brilliantly and although I believe this site has problems with them took me back to being able to relax. Thankgod because i had really had started to think I would be better of dead. Feel more able to deal with the selection of problems I have!!!! Todays problem=fridge has brocken!!! On the lookout for a free fridge now!!! Hope I can continue to keep reducing threw next year and defo feel less anxious about that now my heart has stopped going bonkers!!!!! Over and out, Redkite.

Anti-depressant roundabout-2013-2019 ( 5 different ones all effectively CT)

Paroxetine-2019-2022- Various from 10 to 30. Reduced from 30mg to twenty over summer, winter 21. Stablized. reduced from 20ml to 12.5 jan-july22. Some holds some reinstate of tiny tiny bit and then hold around 15mg. Last drop from 13.5 to 12.5 18th july . Had to add a tiny bit/ Held on drop day due to stress of invironment, dropped to 12.  7th september 

Droped to 11.25 gradually  threw   september picking smaller bits from the left over pot!!! Will stay at 11.25 for a couple of weeks. Shaky and tired.

10.65 28th October.

Terrible november and december so uped to 11. slightly better will stick at 11 till spring at the earliest.

 May 10mg... finally, but what a drama. Totally exhausted!!!

Back up to 10. and a bit !! Cant believe how sick I get. 10 mg some time in june?

middle of  August back up to 10mg and  30th. ( 10.33?)

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Hi Redkite

Popping over to your own thread now - hope things are ok and your fridge got mended

Oaktree

Currently tapering Mirtazapine; previously tapered Cymbalta 30mg from June 2018-Feb 2019 and Seroquel 150mg to zero from Oct-December 2020.

Supplements for Hashimoto's disease and histamine issues relating to Mirtazapine:   Vitamin D3 1,000mcg, bio-identical HRT, Selenium, Quercetin, Lutein, Zinc, Vitamin C, Omega 3.

Mirtazapine Taper: 2021 16th Aug -  transitioned to liquid from tablet by dissolving two 15mg tablets into a solution of 15 ml water and 15 ml maple syrup on a starting dose of what I thought was 7.5ml; 17 Sept  - 7.31; 24 Sept  - 7.13; 15 Oct  - 6.95; 6 Nov  - 6.78; 21 Nov  - 6.61; 5 Dec  - 6.51;

2022 - 1 Jan 6.41; 1 Feb  - 6.1; 9 Mar -  5.8; 13 Mar - 5.9; 7 Apr - 5.8; 21 Apr - 5.7; 7 May - 5.63; 23 May - 5.55; 8 June 5.50;  (got COVID on 12th June so held); 1 July 5.4; 15 July 5.32; 8 Aug 5.2; 15 Aug 5.1; 22 Aug 5; 19 Sept 4.9; 2 Oct 4.81; 13 Oct 4.71; (COVID Booster 17/10/22 so longer hold ); 1 Nov 4.65; 3 Nov 4.60; 10 Nov 4.55; 13 Nov 4.50; 17 Nov 4.45; 20 Nov 4.40;  2 Dec 4.30mg; 9 Dec 4.20mg; I discovered that the volumetric container measured 33ml rather than 30ml in Dec 2022. Following helpful advice from moderator OnMyWay (see her  reply of the 5th March) discovered taper with the dilution was 3.8mg (calculated by dividing 30/33 so that every 1ml of solution has  0.90ml of Mirtazapine.  7.50 - 0.90= 6.6ml which was the starting dose on 16th Aug 2021 not 7.5ml).  I decided to keep using the solution as I didn't want more change to deal with than I had to.

2023 17 Mar 4.1(3.7); 26 Mar 4.0(3.6); 14 Apr 3.9(3.51)28 Apr 3.8(3.42); 6 Jun 3.7(3.33); 19 Jun 3.6(3.24); 30 Jun 3.5(3.1); 19 Jul 3.4(3.06); 27 Jul 3.35 (3.01); 29 Jul 3.3 (2.97); 4 Aug 3.25 (2.92); 7 Aug 3.2 (2.88); 21 Aug 3.1 (2.79); 14.09 3 (2.7); 29th Sept 2.9(2.61); 15 Oct 2.8(2.52); 30 Oct 10 2.7(2.43); 13 Nov 2.65(2.38); 20 Nov 2.6(2.34); 26 Nov 2.55(2.29); 10 Dec 2.5(2.25); 

2024 - 14 Jan 2.45(2.20); 22 Jan 2.40(2.16); 29 Jan 2.35(2.11); 2 Feb 2.3 (2.07);15 Feb 2.25(2.02); 22 Feb 2.21 (1.98); 29 Feb 2.17(1.95); 7 Mar 2.13(1.91); 21 Mar 2.05 (1.84); 31 Mar 2.01 (1.80); 14 Apr 1.90 (1.71); 29 Apr 1.80 (1.62);

 

This is not 'medical advice' - my 'non medical advice' is don't get any more 'medical advice' or you may end up getting more 'medical treatment' i.e more drugs, DSM labels and/or ECT.   Please do not PM me thanks.

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Quick update. Magnesium supplements seem to be working well and have cut WD down particularly the ear ringing but it is all pretty hard. New therapist is great but parents managed to make me feel " its not working" on my birthday!!!! They both take antidepressants!!!!! and have done for 40 years!!! Anyway still struggling with life and massive anxiety but it feels like the norn now. Want to do another little cut within the next few weeks and am hoping that now I am on magnesium it may be easier... hope so. Very sad about the world and the killing of the environment and all it holds because the rich want stuff!!!! Wish more people would feel able to challenge the" haves" and their never  ending need to consume..... everything( food, cars, housing, cloths,....just everything)  Feel angry and sad most of the time but do have openings that are beautiful. just need to keep that at the forefront of my mind in order to continue moving in the right direction. Feel truly awful today. Body all achy and hurting and very dizzy hope its not covid again as that was truly terrible last time. Looking forward to be able to cut again and see my nails grow!!!!! these meds do lots of harm including having a negative effect on my nails!!!! Hoping that maybe the awful morning panic will go once the meds are reduced. I think that will do for today. Redkite

Anti-depressant roundabout-2013-2019 ( 5 different ones all effectively CT)

Paroxetine-2019-2022- Various from 10 to 30. Reduced from 30mg to twenty over summer, winter 21. Stablized. reduced from 20ml to 12.5 jan-july22. Some holds some reinstate of tiny tiny bit and then hold around 15mg. Last drop from 13.5 to 12.5 18th july . Had to add a tiny bit/ Held on drop day due to stress of invironment, dropped to 12.  7th september 

Droped to 11.25 gradually  threw   september picking smaller bits from the left over pot!!! Will stay at 11.25 for a couple of weeks. Shaky and tired.

10.65 28th October.

Terrible november and december so uped to 11. slightly better will stick at 11 till spring at the earliest.

 May 10mg... finally, but what a drama. Totally exhausted!!!

Back up to 10. and a bit !! Cant believe how sick I get. 10 mg some time in june?

middle of  August back up to 10mg and  30th. ( 10.33?)

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a member told me that oregano essential oil could increase serotonine, right?

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On 3/8/2024 at 10:48 AM, redkite said:

agnesium supplements seem to be working well and have cut WD down particularly the ear ringing but it is all pretty hard. New therapist is great but parents managed to make me feel " its not working" on my birthday!!!! They both take antidepressants!!!!! and have done for 40 years!!!

Hi Redkite,

 

Just quick check in as I am going to be taking a break from the site for a while as I am finding it a bit triggering.  Don't worry about your parents.   People unfortunately are limited by their own experience/blinkers etc.  I had plenty of that from my own parents too - i.e. blame the therapist.  If you feel she is helping you I'd just go with that for the mo'.  Oh yes haha - I have had those 'birthdays' too.   

It's good that the magnesium is working for you.  It is 'pretty hard' though - you're right.

 

On 3/8/2024 at 10:48 AM, redkite said:

Anyway still struggling with life and massive anxiety but it feels like the norn now.

'Withdrawal normal' I think they call it here (BrassMonkey).  I know the feeling.

 

On 3/8/2024 at 10:48 AM, redkite said:

Very sad about the world and the killing of the environment and all it holds because the rich want stuff!!!! Wish more people would feel able to challenge the" haves" and their never  ending need to consume..... everything( food, cars, housing, cloths,....just everything) 

I feel the same as you.  I didn't always feel like that and used to be someone who wanted loads of 'stuff' .  I know you are limited with your data plan but there's a guy on Youtube called Daniel Schmactenberger who does a lot of talks on what you've written above.  He's a bit verbose - goes on a lot - but sometimes it can make you feel less alone to listen to someone who thinks similarly.   I remember years ago...we got salmon from the river every summer (it was wild and able to spawn then and not over fished); it's been gone for years now.  Our 'green' party encourage the rich to consume more - loads of rich people here went out and bought enormous electrically powered tanks while people with little money drive old petrol cars because they can't afford to upgrade are penalised.   The rich can afford to retrofit their houses while the poor cannot and the Greens now want to stop the poor using their own bogs for peat even though they can't afford to heat their houses any other way.   All the while the po faced self righteous rich/greens live cosseted lives.   I know that sounds contradictory in that I'm opposing the pro nature party but they are so stupid that they can't see how ordinary people (particularly) outside the capital live and how so many of them are struggling.  

 

My feeling is I would like to donate my own body to nature,  bonemeal for the trees and the hedges but there is no way I'd ever donate my organs for our species.  

 

On 3/8/2024 at 10:48 AM, redkite said:

Feel angry and sad most of the time but do have openings that are beautiful. just need to keep that at the forefront of my mind in order to continue moving in the right direction. Feel truly awful today. Body all achy and hurting and very dizzy hope its not covid again as that was truly terrible last time

I hear you there but hold on to those small moments that are beautiful - I saw a rainbow yesterday (it was heavy rain most of the day) and I am planting my hedge - even though it rains I stay outside most of the day.  In my view what you have done for your garden and the natural world means you are worth 1000 times more than any useless vain veneered restylane pumped social influencer.   They are a symptom of what is wrong with this world - posing in fast fashion that will go straight to landfill; using all their time to work solely on their appearance to make money to buy more stuff and have more surgical stuff done to themselves.  When they are dead their silly plastic little bodies won't even decompose properly (full of artificial compounds).   They may  be in the mainstream but they are worthless toxic dross and it says something about us as a species that we would worship someone like Kim Kardashian and people who emulate her.  Age will come to them too and it is already proving too much for many of them as they are obsessing over lines in the early 20's - silly little idiots.  But it can be lonely if you don't think like that in a world where most do.

 

I hope you come through the dizziness and the body aches - I use lots of massage balls and find tai chi really good for pain.  Think on the good you are doing for the environment with what you are doing in your garden.  That's all I think on now.  The world didn't want me at all - I failed at everything but if I can do something for nature by planting stuff and helping biodiversity that means that I did something worthwhile - look at all the wonderful stuff you did in your garden with your pond - giving the remaining living creatures a refuge and you own it outright so it can't be taken off you - that is a massive achievement - I would love to own my own nature reserve.

 

Keep on hanging on - the natural world (what's left of it) needs you.

Oaktree1

 

 

Currently tapering Mirtazapine; previously tapered Cymbalta 30mg from June 2018-Feb 2019 and Seroquel 150mg to zero from Oct-December 2020.

Supplements for Hashimoto's disease and histamine issues relating to Mirtazapine:   Vitamin D3 1,000mcg, bio-identical HRT, Selenium, Quercetin, Lutein, Zinc, Vitamin C, Omega 3.

Mirtazapine Taper: 2021 16th Aug -  transitioned to liquid from tablet by dissolving two 15mg tablets into a solution of 15 ml water and 15 ml maple syrup on a starting dose of what I thought was 7.5ml; 17 Sept  - 7.31; 24 Sept  - 7.13; 15 Oct  - 6.95; 6 Nov  - 6.78; 21 Nov  - 6.61; 5 Dec  - 6.51;

2022 - 1 Jan 6.41; 1 Feb  - 6.1; 9 Mar -  5.8; 13 Mar - 5.9; 7 Apr - 5.8; 21 Apr - 5.7; 7 May - 5.63; 23 May - 5.55; 8 June 5.50;  (got COVID on 12th June so held); 1 July 5.4; 15 July 5.32; 8 Aug 5.2; 15 Aug 5.1; 22 Aug 5; 19 Sept 4.9; 2 Oct 4.81; 13 Oct 4.71; (COVID Booster 17/10/22 so longer hold ); 1 Nov 4.65; 3 Nov 4.60; 10 Nov 4.55; 13 Nov 4.50; 17 Nov 4.45; 20 Nov 4.40;  2 Dec 4.30mg; 9 Dec 4.20mg; I discovered that the volumetric container measured 33ml rather than 30ml in Dec 2022. Following helpful advice from moderator OnMyWay (see her  reply of the 5th March) discovered taper with the dilution was 3.8mg (calculated by dividing 30/33 so that every 1ml of solution has  0.90ml of Mirtazapine.  7.50 - 0.90= 6.6ml which was the starting dose on 16th Aug 2021 not 7.5ml).  I decided to keep using the solution as I didn't want more change to deal with than I had to.

2023 17 Mar 4.1(3.7); 26 Mar 4.0(3.6); 14 Apr 3.9(3.51)28 Apr 3.8(3.42); 6 Jun 3.7(3.33); 19 Jun 3.6(3.24); 30 Jun 3.5(3.1); 19 Jul 3.4(3.06); 27 Jul 3.35 (3.01); 29 Jul 3.3 (2.97); 4 Aug 3.25 (2.92); 7 Aug 3.2 (2.88); 21 Aug 3.1 (2.79); 14.09 3 (2.7); 29th Sept 2.9(2.61); 15 Oct 2.8(2.52); 30 Oct 10 2.7(2.43); 13 Nov 2.65(2.38); 20 Nov 2.6(2.34); 26 Nov 2.55(2.29); 10 Dec 2.5(2.25); 

2024 - 14 Jan 2.45(2.20); 22 Jan 2.40(2.16); 29 Jan 2.35(2.11); 2 Feb 2.3 (2.07);15 Feb 2.25(2.02); 22 Feb 2.21 (1.98); 29 Feb 2.17(1.95); 7 Mar 2.13(1.91); 21 Mar 2.05 (1.84); 31 Mar 2.01 (1.80); 14 Apr 1.90 (1.71); 29 Apr 1.80 (1.62);

 

This is not 'medical advice' - my 'non medical advice' is don't get any more 'medical advice' or you may end up getting more 'medical treatment' i.e more drugs, DSM labels and/or ECT.   Please do not PM me thanks.

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Hi, yes i agree about being on the site to much and had decided the same as you! So if you do read this take care and thankyou for all your support, imput, and insite. I will check out the bloke you recomended above. Stay good. Redkite

Anti-depressant roundabout-2013-2019 ( 5 different ones all effectively CT)

Paroxetine-2019-2022- Various from 10 to 30. Reduced from 30mg to twenty over summer, winter 21. Stablized. reduced from 20ml to 12.5 jan-july22. Some holds some reinstate of tiny tiny bit and then hold around 15mg. Last drop from 13.5 to 12.5 18th july . Had to add a tiny bit/ Held on drop day due to stress of invironment, dropped to 12.  7th september 

Droped to 11.25 gradually  threw   september picking smaller bits from the left over pot!!! Will stay at 11.25 for a couple of weeks. Shaky and tired.

10.65 28th October.

Terrible november and december so uped to 11. slightly better will stick at 11 till spring at the earliest.

 May 10mg... finally, but what a drama. Totally exhausted!!!

Back up to 10. and a bit !! Cant believe how sick I get. 10 mg some time in june?

middle of  August back up to 10mg and  30th. ( 10.33?)

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Quick update. magnesium continues to keep WD to a minimum. Weird virus contracted turned into viral inflammatory arthritis which had been awful but did meet new Dr who is young, lovely and supportive so that's a plus!!! Going forward it will mean she will be onboard with liquid prescription and up to date re WD!!!! So thats a plus. Virus keeps changing shape and today it is sore throat, headache and tiredness..... so very similar to covid but less potent....... I hope!!!! I agree with Oaktree that the site can be sometimes tricky to manage so am also going to reduce my access to it. stay strong everyone. Take care Redlkite

Anti-depressant roundabout-2013-2019 ( 5 different ones all effectively CT)

Paroxetine-2019-2022- Various from 10 to 30. Reduced from 30mg to twenty over summer, winter 21. Stablized. reduced from 20ml to 12.5 jan-july22. Some holds some reinstate of tiny tiny bit and then hold around 15mg. Last drop from 13.5 to 12.5 18th july . Had to add a tiny bit/ Held on drop day due to stress of invironment, dropped to 12.  7th september 

Droped to 11.25 gradually  threw   september picking smaller bits from the left over pot!!! Will stay at 11.25 for a couple of weeks. Shaky and tired.

10.65 28th October.

Terrible november and december so uped to 11. slightly better will stick at 11 till spring at the earliest.

 May 10mg... finally, but what a drama. Totally exhausted!!!

Back up to 10. and a bit !! Cant believe how sick I get. 10 mg some time in june?

middle of  August back up to 10mg and  30th. ( 10.33?)

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On 3/25/2024 at 12:26 PM, redkite said:

Weird virus contracted turned into viral inflammatory arthritis which had been awful but did meet new Dr who is young, lovely and supportive so that's a plus!!! Going forward it will mean she will be onboard with liquid prescription and up to date re WD!!!! So thats a plus. Virus keeps changing shape and today it is sore throat, headache and tiredness..... so very similar to covid but less potent....... I hope!!!! I

Hi Redkite,

 

I am very sorry to hear the viral inflammatory arthritis but I looked it up and saw that it is like a viral infection and is meant to disappear after a while.  I hope that it has abated now.  I hope you took the time to rest up and look after yourself - I find soup good for viral illness.  I am glad to hear you have secured a decent doctor - they're like gold dust.

 

Wish you health and peace

Oaktree1

Currently tapering Mirtazapine; previously tapered Cymbalta 30mg from June 2018-Feb 2019 and Seroquel 150mg to zero from Oct-December 2020.

Supplements for Hashimoto's disease and histamine issues relating to Mirtazapine:   Vitamin D3 1,000mcg, bio-identical HRT, Selenium, Quercetin, Lutein, Zinc, Vitamin C, Omega 3.

Mirtazapine Taper: 2021 16th Aug -  transitioned to liquid from tablet by dissolving two 15mg tablets into a solution of 15 ml water and 15 ml maple syrup on a starting dose of what I thought was 7.5ml; 17 Sept  - 7.31; 24 Sept  - 7.13; 15 Oct  - 6.95; 6 Nov  - 6.78; 21 Nov  - 6.61; 5 Dec  - 6.51;

2022 - 1 Jan 6.41; 1 Feb  - 6.1; 9 Mar -  5.8; 13 Mar - 5.9; 7 Apr - 5.8; 21 Apr - 5.7; 7 May - 5.63; 23 May - 5.55; 8 June 5.50;  (got COVID on 12th June so held); 1 July 5.4; 15 July 5.32; 8 Aug 5.2; 15 Aug 5.1; 22 Aug 5; 19 Sept 4.9; 2 Oct 4.81; 13 Oct 4.71; (COVID Booster 17/10/22 so longer hold ); 1 Nov 4.65; 3 Nov 4.60; 10 Nov 4.55; 13 Nov 4.50; 17 Nov 4.45; 20 Nov 4.40;  2 Dec 4.30mg; 9 Dec 4.20mg; I discovered that the volumetric container measured 33ml rather than 30ml in Dec 2022. Following helpful advice from moderator OnMyWay (see her  reply of the 5th March) discovered taper with the dilution was 3.8mg (calculated by dividing 30/33 so that every 1ml of solution has  0.90ml of Mirtazapine.  7.50 - 0.90= 6.6ml which was the starting dose on 16th Aug 2021 not 7.5ml).  I decided to keep using the solution as I didn't want more change to deal with than I had to.

2023 17 Mar 4.1(3.7); 26 Mar 4.0(3.6); 14 Apr 3.9(3.51)28 Apr 3.8(3.42); 6 Jun 3.7(3.33); 19 Jun 3.6(3.24); 30 Jun 3.5(3.1); 19 Jul 3.4(3.06); 27 Jul 3.35 (3.01); 29 Jul 3.3 (2.97); 4 Aug 3.25 (2.92); 7 Aug 3.2 (2.88); 21 Aug 3.1 (2.79); 14.09 3 (2.7); 29th Sept 2.9(2.61); 15 Oct 2.8(2.52); 30 Oct 10 2.7(2.43); 13 Nov 2.65(2.38); 20 Nov 2.6(2.34); 26 Nov 2.55(2.29); 10 Dec 2.5(2.25); 

2024 - 14 Jan 2.45(2.20); 22 Jan 2.40(2.16); 29 Jan 2.35(2.11); 2 Feb 2.3 (2.07);15 Feb 2.25(2.02); 22 Feb 2.21 (1.98); 29 Feb 2.17(1.95); 7 Mar 2.13(1.91); 21 Mar 2.05 (1.84); 31 Mar 2.01 (1.80); 14 Apr 1.90 (1.71); 29 Apr 1.80 (1.62);

 

This is not 'medical advice' - my 'non medical advice' is don't get any more 'medical advice' or you may end up getting more 'medical treatment' i.e more drugs, DSM labels and/or ECT.   Please do not PM me thanks.

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Hi, me again. Thanks for bobbing by Oaktree. Yes the virus seems to be going but I have lots of hospital appointments checking out what is is but I think Its the bloods that will explain most. Its all gone really bar a bit in my hands, which already have OA arthritus anyway!!!!  But I hate going to appointments and its spinning me out!!!  Had a tricky day today but home know and going to have a bath, little fire, clean sheets and a film to try to relax me. The thing with this reductian malarcky is you think your ok.... that you could do another drop and then WHAM...... you not ok at all!!!!! Your messed up, anxious, obsessing about crap and telling people to **** off!!!!!! Its such a tough tough gig..... but know that I have started......... and it is best in the long run, its just getting there thats hard......harder.......hardest! Keep on keeping on everyone!!! 

Anti-depressant roundabout-2013-2019 ( 5 different ones all effectively CT)

Paroxetine-2019-2022- Various from 10 to 30. Reduced from 30mg to twenty over summer, winter 21. Stablized. reduced from 20ml to 12.5 jan-july22. Some holds some reinstate of tiny tiny bit and then hold around 15mg. Last drop from 13.5 to 12.5 18th july . Had to add a tiny bit/ Held on drop day due to stress of invironment, dropped to 12.  7th september 

Droped to 11.25 gradually  threw   september picking smaller bits from the left over pot!!! Will stay at 11.25 for a couple of weeks. Shaky and tired.

10.65 28th October.

Terrible november and december so uped to 11. slightly better will stick at 11 till spring at the earliest.

 May 10mg... finally, but what a drama. Totally exhausted!!!

Back up to 10. and a bit !! Cant believe how sick I get. 10 mg some time in june?

middle of  August back up to 10mg and  30th. ( 10.33?)

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