Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted September 12, 2023 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 12, 2023 @jeffelmexicano If you believe the skin problems are related to withdrawal, my guess would be it's coming from the Seroquel. You're on 123 mg Seroquel, which is a low enough dose that instead of this drug affecting dopamine, it's probably affecting histamine at this point. We briefly discussed this a bit earlier in your thread: On 6/3/2023 at 5:43 AM, Shep said: Please note that Seroquel acts on dopamine on doses higher than around 150 mg. Under around 150 mg, Seroquel acts on histamine receptors. This can be a very sensitive time for people tapering this drug, so you may want to taper even slower until you know how your body is going to react to this switch in how the drug works. So you may now be dealing with histamine intolerance. The good news is you may be able to get relief by avoiding foods high in histamine. Please see: 10 signs you have histamine intolerance Also see these threads: Histamine Food Intolerance Elimination or exclusion diets for reactions to food (food intolerance) You may want to keep a food diary where you write down what you eat and any symptoms that show up and then eliminate any foods that you believe are causing problems. You can go online and google for information on a low-histamine diet so you can eat foods that won't cause these kinds of problems. It may take awhile on a restricted diet for the symptoms to go away, but many people find it helpful during withdrawal. 1 Link to comment
jeffelmexicano Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Shep said: @jeffelmexicano If you believe the skin problems are related to withdrawal, my guess would be it's coming from the Seroquel. You're on 123 mg Seroquel, which is a low enough dose that instead of this drug affecting dopamine, it's probably affecting histamine at this point. We briefly discussed this a bit earlier in your thread: So you may now be dealing with histamine intolerance. The good news is you may be able to get relief by avoiding foods high in histamine. Please see: 10 signs you have histamine intolerance Also see these threads: Histamine Food Intolerance Elimination or exclusion diets for reactions to food (food intolerance) You may want to keep a food diary where you write down what you eat and any symptoms that show up and then eliminate any foods that you believe are causing problems. You can go online and google for information on a low-histamine diet so you can eat foods that won't cause these kinds of problems. It may take awhile on a restricted diet for the symptoms to go away, but many people find it helpful during withdrawal. Ok thanks shep 2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3 weeks and I was fine start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold on January on 187,5mg of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 03.7.23 Holding both doses May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel Hold on all meds Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 @jeffelmexicano that makes alot of sense. Did you look up foods to avoid? No aged cheeses, no bananas, no tomatoes, no citrus fruit, no packaged meat, no fermented foods, etc. Hopefully this will help. 1 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
jeffelmexicano Posted September 14, 2023 Author Share Posted September 14, 2023 6 45 am woke up Feel ear noise AND vértigo weakness Stomachache .i shouldnt eat late night Stay im bed I stupidly broke my cns . Read an article of alto or idk who in here that when that happens can take a looooomg Time to heal so . I wonder . I should continúe tapering ? Not gonna Fix that in near future Just wondering I Guess night seroquel give me this sides like shep say but idk . 730 am go to work Took a tea dry skin 8 am 1,20 MG lorazepam working 11 am symtps better specially vértigo AND stuff or maybe same symtoms but better Eat some cake that a client bring me 1 PM eat some chicken Symtoms still better I feel cold most of the Time Slow digestión I can hear the ear noise bother me More when im in silence ofc 4 pm went to walk 6 PM Went to work Worked my cognition Is not tooo bad 8 PM took 1,20 MG Return to home Ear noise sound sensitivity . Tired Im sleeping for move day . I have to wait unitil 10 PM to take serohell . Slept AND woke up at 12 PM took seroquel 123 MG sleep again 2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3 weeks and I was fine start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold on January on 187,5mg of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 03.7.23 Holding both doses May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel Hold on all meds Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 You are doing good. Just holding and keeping this routine till vertigo and other symptoms settle. Yes tapering too fast can set us back but you are back in track to heal. 💯 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
jeffelmexicano Posted September 15, 2023 Author Share Posted September 15, 2023 9 hours ago, LostInCanada said: You are doing good. Just holding and keeping this routine till vertigo and other symptoms settle. Yes tapering too fast can set us back but you are back in track to heal. 💯 Aww thanks canada 2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3 weeks and I was fine start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold on January on 187,5mg of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 03.7.23 Holding both doses May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel Hold on all meds Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG Link to comment
jeffelmexicano Posted September 15, 2023 Author Share Posted September 15, 2023 6 45 am woke up Feel ear noise weakness less than Yesterday Stomachache .i shouldnt eat late night Stay in bed When i wake UP my symtpms are worst then during the day the get better Almost 8 am went to work walking maybe some anxiety dry skin 8 am took 1,20nmg lorazepam Worked all morning 1 PM return home Had some healthy food Go to bed to rest Ear noise . Bit of anxietty 2 PM 1,25 MG lorazepam Went for a walk 6 PM Went to work 7 30 PM took a tea 8 PM 1,20g lorazepam Bed 10 PM 123g seroquel At night i feel better Gn My hands r so dry 2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3 weeks and I was fine start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold on January on 187,5mg of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 03.7.23 Holding both doses May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel Hold on all meds Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG Link to comment
PurpleRein Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 "i have like hipersisivity dopamine cos I can't drink coffee or smoke cigs or any thing" Coffee and smoking increase histamine. Smoking increases histamine in the stomach and that can cause stomach pain. High histamine can also cause ear ringing/buzzing and sensitivity to heat. Coffee can also lower Vitamin B6, which is needed to make DAO, the enzyme that breaks up histamine. Coffee can also dehydrate you and need water to lower histamine. Having histamine intolerance means that you're not able to break up histamine as quickly as other people and once histamine gets to a certain level, anything else that increases histamine can cause a reaction and symptoms. Histamine is higher at night but Seroquel acts like an antihistamine and you take it at night, so maybe that's why you feel better at night. High histamine can be a sign of the hypomethylation caused by MTHFR variants. This explains it https://www.geneticlifehacks.com/high-histamine-and-methylation-mthfr-defects/ Vitamin C can lower histamine. Drink plenty of water. Avoid contact with things you're allergic to and high sugar foods since spikes in blood sugar increase histamine. 1994 Sinequan 150mg daily X 2 years then slow decrease down to 10 mg for years because I got hives when stopped Link to comment
jeffelmexicano Posted September 16, 2023 Author Share Posted September 16, 2023 Woke UP at 7 am A bit weak a bit vértigo Maybe ear sound Is better Took some cheese AND a cookie I Will try to avoid sugar 8 took 1,20 MG lorazepam Went to work Dry hands lately . Very much Stoped work at 1 PM Eat healthy had some acid reflux not much but some Doing some grounding Talked to some nice woman in a fórum that anheodnia got better when she reach 50 MG of seroquel Anheodnia Is my worst symptom Maybe down to 50 MG of seroquel ? AND hold ? Just wondering Im on hold of both meds AND i Wil continúe like that just thinking 1 PM ate some cake after i knew that had like some ingredient of coffee . Like coffee chocolatte or something 2 PM 1,25 MG lorazepam Anxiety this from the cake Did Sole grounding Being 100 g of biglicisnato de magnesium Idk what Time or how much i should take this 5 PM took a bite of magnesium to try If i have tolerance went to take a tea with my dad I feel a bit dizzy i think 6 PM went to work 8 PM took lorazepam 1,2p MG Continúe working until 10 PM took the seroquel .feel a bit anxious Go to sleep now Ear noise want to add magnesium 50 MG 2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3 weeks and I was fine start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold on January on 187,5mg of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 03.7.23 Holding both doses May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel Hold on all meds Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG Link to comment
jeffelmexicano Posted September 16, 2023 Author Share Posted September 16, 2023 4 hours ago, PurpleRein said: "i have like hipersisivity dopamine cos I can't drink coffee or smoke cigs or any thing" Coffee and smoking increase histamine. Smoking increases histamine in the stomach and that can cause stomach pain. High histamine can also cause ear ringing/buzzing and sensitivity to heat. Coffee can also lower Vitamin B6, which is needed to make DAO, the enzyme that breaks up histamine. Coffee can also dehydrate you and need water to lower histamine. Having histamine intolerance means that you're not able to break up histamine as quickly as other people and once histamine gets to a certain level, anything else that increases histamine can cause a reaction and symptoms. Histamine is higher at night but Seroquel acts like an antihistamine and you take it at night, so maybe that's why you feel better at night. High histamine can be a sign of the hypomethylation caused by MTHFR variants. This explains it https://www.geneticlifehacks.com/high-histamine-and-methylation-mthfr-defects/ Vitamin C can lower histamine. Drink plenty of water. Avoid contact with things you're allergic to and high sugar foods since spikes in blood sugar increase histamine. Oh WOW how much knowledge Thanks @PurpleReinapriciete Should i add magnesiun AND vitamin c ? AND vitamin b ? Thanks for your answer AND knowledge apriciete a lot 2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3 weeks and I was fine start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold on January on 187,5mg of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 03.7.23 Holding both doses May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel Hold on all meds Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG Link to comment
jeffelmexicano Posted September 16, 2023 Author Share Posted September 16, 2023 I dont want no on feel sorry or something but im not a very smart person AND thats reality . If some one can help me on this ( wich already being doing ) would apriciete I download a table with food that increase histamine but i wish to know If i should AD vitamin c AND b6 or B12 like how i fix this ok thtnkks for reading 2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3 weeks and I was fine start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold on January on 187,5mg of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 03.7.23 Holding both doses May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel Hold on all meds Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted September 16, 2023 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted September 16, 2023 @jeffelmexicano Please work on your diet before adding in a bunch of supplements. You've been consuming caffeine, sugar, etc., which can ramp up symptoms. I would stick to a healthy diet that does not contain caffeine, alcohol, processed foods, etc. and see how you feel. You may want to pick foods that are low in histamine. When it comes to adding in supplements or making any kind of change, remember the "one change at a time" rule: The rule of 3KIS: Keep it simple. Keep it slow. Keep it stable. I would work on your diet first and see if you feel better before doing anything else. The simpler you can keep this, the better. 1 Link to comment
jeffelmexicano Posted September 16, 2023 Author Share Posted September 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Shep said: @jeffelmexicano Please work on your diet before adding in a bunch of supplements. You've been consuming caffeine, sugar, etc., which can ramp up symptoms. I would stick to a healthy diet that does not contain caffeine, alcohol, processed foods, etc. and see how you feel. You may want to pick foods that are low in histamine. When it comes to adding in supplements or making any kind of change, remember the "one change at a time" rule: The rule of 3KIS: Keep it simple. Keep it slow. Keep it stable. I would work on your diet first and see if you feel better before doing anything else. The simpler you can keep this, the better. Thanks @Shep apriciete But i dotn do cafeine . Maybe ocasionly random cafiene by mistake in some products sometimes also sugar .Cos Is very hard to avoid. But in general Is very healthy diet cuz im pre diabetic AND i dont want diabetes type 2 So i try to do fasting AND stuff i drink plenty of water AND eat chicken AND veggies ....when i write here Is when i do a mistake or take chocolate or some coffee but Is rarely This weekend i Will try some things in very low dose . Not some things just magnesium After this im done . I Will do only veggies AND meat . 2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3 weeks and I was fine start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold on January on 187,5mg of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 03.7.23 Holding both doses May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel Hold on all meds Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 Just for the future, vitamin B s as a supplement can cause issues. Red meat is good for vitamin B s naturally so increase that if you can. Eggs have some too. Vitamin C is good for controlling histamine in a supplement. Citrus fruits are high in histamine so not a good way to get vitamin C. Also weirdly enough some foods low in histamine make your body release histidine... watermelon is one of those foods. So definitely just do magnesium for a month before anything else. Also even though 50 mg Seroquel was the magic number for someone, doesn't mean it will be for you. Make a plan, stick to it, try not to just around in your thinking. The lorazepam is high and should probably come down to a more reasonable dosage first. Just my opinion. Any thoughts @Shep Shep definitely knows better than me. 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
jeffelmexicano Posted September 25, 2023 Author Share Posted September 25, 2023 I feel so lonely . In made some mistakes .cant recover from dowm dose of lorazepam from 3 ,70 MG to 3,65 mg . Everytime have More symtoms . Maybe wait another month . This sucks 3,65 mg lorazepam 123 MG seroquel Intolerance to everything Ok thanks for reading 2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3 weeks and I was fine start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold on January on 187,5mg of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 03.7.23 Holding both doses May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel Hold on all meds Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 It's going to be okay. Our bodies are healing even when we think they aren't. The past wave I honestly didn't think I would get past but I did. And now I did a little taper and feel like I am back at the start but really I am on less drug so that is a positive and the same for you. 👍 1 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
jeffelmexicano Posted September 26, 2023 Author Share Posted September 26, 2023 Woke UP at 7 am Suddenfly with anxiety . Not severe Stay in bed Stomsch pain .head pain . I feel no hope Nightmare about sharks my family dont talk to me like always they dont believe me about all this 8 am went to work barely Took 1,20 MG lorazepam Im an idiot benzo wd Is the edge . Really ruin people Desrealization . Not severe Feel like passing out Bad toughts like what If i cant work etc Feel really bad My stomach hurt I feel heat a lot My symtoms wasnt this bad 1 PM return house Brain damage Is so bad Eat some chicken Thinking in put anti neuro inflamation supps Had a nap . Bad sleep quality Cant almost rest well 2 PM took 1,25 MG lorazepam 4 pm wake UP eat 2 eggs im trying to avoid proceced food Is dificult tho Went to work Im planning suplements . Except If shep AND Canadá tell dont Curcumin for inflamation Omega 3 AND probiótics basically all for inflamation . I know shep told keep it simple but i Guess i need to down the inflamation ? Also Green tea? I cant stop working i need the money here I can be with symtpms but functional 7 PM returning home . Cant move intense pain all over Inflamation Even my throat hurts 8 PM took 1,20 MG lorazepam I wanna live so bad but how Today was the worst day so far Its almost 10 PM seroquel . My body Is such in pain Willl see at what Time i sleep Gn 2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3 weeks and I was fine start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold on January on 187,5mg of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 03.7.23 Holding both doses May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel Hold on all meds Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG Link to comment
PurpleRein Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 Have you had a test to check your vitamin D? Are you taking Vitamin D? Because low vitamin D can cause joint and muscle pain....and the one thing that can really help inflammation is Vitamin D. You got home at 1 pm, took a nap and woke up at 4 pm.....that may be why you can't sleep well at night. You're sleeping in the day time. At 8am you felt like passing out. Could it be because you didn't have breakfast? Maybe your blood sugar went down. You had chicken at 1 pm and eggs at 4 pm. So you ate only protein. Do you eat anything else? fruit and vegetables? Does your job involve working with chemicals, fertilizers, etc? You said your wife smokes...does she smoke in the house? 1994 Sinequan 150mg daily X 2 years then slow decrease down to 10 mg for years because I got hives when stopped Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 @jeffelmexicano apparently probiotics should NOT be taken if you are having histamine issues so hold off on that one. Green tea has caffeine so it's a no unless decaffeinated. Camomile tea is good or decaffeinated tea. Is the magnesium you bought magnesium bisglycinate? It has to be bisglycinate. You had is on your scale .050, that is 50 mg to start. Doesn't have to be exact, put it in water and drink. You do not have brain damage. Function is impaired by withdrawal but the body is amazing and can heal. 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
jeffelmexicano Posted September 27, 2023 Author Share Posted September 27, 2023 Woke UP 8 am took 1,20 MG lorazepam Slept better . Went to work for only 1 hours Return home 10 am Did some grounding Eat a mandarin only Will try to do fasting AND a bit a tumeric to low inflamation 11 am rest AND relax in bed Still hear noise Is severe AND sound sensivity That mean i need to calm More cns ? Trying to do fasting I feel bad again 1 PM tried half spoon of tumeric Suposed to be anti inflamatori . 2 PM 1,25 MG lorazepam Stay in bed Is raining I have waves of heat 4 pm going for a walk 5 PM im drinking a lot of te del boldo . Bold tea? Went to work at 6 PM Return 8 PM Took 1,20nmg lorazepam I feel better between 8 AND 11 PM 10 PM 123 MG seroquel I hope i sleep better todY gn 2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3 weeks and I was fine start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold on January on 187,5mg of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 03.7.23 Holding both doses May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel Hold on all meds Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Why do fasting? This is a quote from a well known source: Can fasting trigger anxiety? The Effect of Short-Term Fasting on Human Psychological Health. Some studies reported that short-term fasting can increase negative emotions (depression, anxiety, anger, irritability, fatigue, and tension) and decrease positive emotions and vitality [25–29].Jan 5, 2022 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov › pmc The Effect of Fasting on Human Metabolism and Psychological Health 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
jeffelmexicano Posted September 27, 2023 Author Share Posted September 27, 2023 Fasting say reduce gut inflamation . Gut inflamation produce neuroinflamation . Not big fasting just like 12 hours or so but idk Thats why i wanna try curcumin also . Just try one day AND did nothing Half spoon .well did nothing bad 2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3 weeks and I was fine start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold on January on 187,5mg of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 03.7.23 Holding both doses May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel Hold on all meds Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG Link to comment
jeffelmexicano Posted September 27, 2023 Author Share Posted September 27, 2023 10 hours ago, LostInCanada said: Why do fasting? This is a quote from a well known source: Can fasting trigger anxiety? The Effect of Short-Term Fasting on Human Psychological Health. Some studies reported that short-term fasting can increase negative emotions (depression, anxiety, anger, irritability, fatigue, and tension) and decrease positive emotions and vitality [25–29].Jan 5, 2022 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov › pmc The Effect of Fasting on Human Metabolism and Psychological Health Not for contradict but Is so hard to believe "oficial " sources now .totally lost trust in medicine I trust More in peers Some studies specially this moments say totally oposite according some fasting Is great that Is why Is so popular now for people on diet I just dont know . So i Will stop fasting .same not always worked 2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3 weeks and I was fine start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold on January on 187,5mg of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 03.7.23 Holding both doses May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel Hold on all meds Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG Link to comment
Moderator LotusRising Posted September 27, 2023 Moderator Share Posted September 27, 2023 2 hours ago, jeffelmexicano said: Fasting say reduce gut inflamation . Gut inflamation produce neuroinflamation Fasting is good for inflammation when our bodies are full of energy, sleeping well, and consuming enough calories. While tapering, our bodies can be under an enormous amount of stress. Personally, I would skip the fasting, and instead focus on eating 3 meals throughout the day (with snacks in between) to sustain your energy needs. 2 2003-2009 on and off various SSRI's for short periods, Ativan prn 2010-2011 Ativan, up to 1.5mg/day - tapered off without issue 2013-2021 ativan 1-1.5mg 10-12x/month, daily starting Oct 21 to help with buspar WD 2016 - Effexor 75mg, short-term 2021 Mar -Jun Buspar ADR at high dose, tapered 3 months 2021 Aug Wellbutrin 150mg for 5 days (ADR), then MIrtazapine 7.5mg for 7 days (ADR) Oct 22/21 - Direct switch ativan to clonazepam (don't do this) Tapered clonaz Oct/21 - Apr/23 - 0mg! Supplements: omega-3, mag-glycinate "Believe that your tragedies, your losses, your sorrows, your hurt, happened for you, not to you. And I bless the thing that broke you down and cracked you open, because the world needs you open" - Rebecca Campbell *** Disclaimer: Please note, my suggestions/comments are based on my own personal experiences. Please consult a knowledgeable practitioner to discuss decisions regarding your medical care *** *** Please do not send me PM's *** Link to comment
jeffelmexicano Posted September 27, 2023 Author Share Posted September 27, 2023 54 minutes ago, MedRN said: Fasting is good for inflammation when our bodies are full of energy, sleeping well, and consuming enough calories. While tapering, our bodies can be under an enormous amount of stress. Personally, I would skip the fasting, and instead focus on eating 3 meals throughout the day (with snacks in between) to sustain your energy needs. Ok Will do that no More fast . Thanks you n Canadá .what you think to lower inflamation .in touch with nature AND stuff ? Thanks @LostInCanada @MedRN tumeric ? 2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3 weeks and I was fine start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold on January on 187,5mg of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 03.7.23 Holding both doses May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel Hold on all meds Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 I messaged you privately but will say it here...there are many adaptogens, tumeric is in that class. If they were consistently helpful they would be recommended here. There is no magic quick fix. It is a long hard road. Eat healthy, go for a walk in nature, stay hydrated, sleep as best you can, reduce stress and don't concentrate on what you can't do, be grateful for what you can do. 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Is the NCBI credible? NCBI primarily exists to administer vital biological databases. But they also have a long track record of publishing top notch research in bioinformatics and computational biology. So while no scientific report is beyond being questioned, anything coming from NCBI is likely to be high quality. https://www.quora.com › Are-the-N... Are the NCBI scientific studies that are publicly available reliable? - Quora 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
Moderator LotusRising Posted September 27, 2023 Moderator Share Posted September 27, 2023 I can't say what will help you personally, but getting out in nature is certainly beneficial for the nervous system, as well as general well-being. If you're keen on trying turmeric, you might just try sprinkling it on your food. 2003-2009 on and off various SSRI's for short periods, Ativan prn 2010-2011 Ativan, up to 1.5mg/day - tapered off without issue 2013-2021 ativan 1-1.5mg 10-12x/month, daily starting Oct 21 to help with buspar WD 2016 - Effexor 75mg, short-term 2021 Mar -Jun Buspar ADR at high dose, tapered 3 months 2021 Aug Wellbutrin 150mg for 5 days (ADR), then MIrtazapine 7.5mg for 7 days (ADR) Oct 22/21 - Direct switch ativan to clonazepam (don't do this) Tapered clonaz Oct/21 - Apr/23 - 0mg! Supplements: omega-3, mag-glycinate "Believe that your tragedies, your losses, your sorrows, your hurt, happened for you, not to you. And I bless the thing that broke you down and cracked you open, because the world needs you open" - Rebecca Campbell *** Disclaimer: Please note, my suggestions/comments are based on my own personal experiences. Please consult a knowledgeable practitioner to discuss decisions regarding your medical care *** *** Please do not send me PM's *** Link to comment
jeffelmexicano Posted September 27, 2023 Author Share Posted September 27, 2023 I was just asking im not gonna try tumeric ok 2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3 weeks and I was fine start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold on January on 187,5mg of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 03.7.23 Holding both doses May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel Hold on all meds Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG Link to comment
jeffelmexicano Posted September 28, 2023 Author Share Posted September 28, 2023 8 am woke up Im sleeping a bit More AND a bit better Is not waking UP suddenly AND sweating 8 am took 1,20 MG lorazepam A bit of head pain Ear noise 9 am barely get UP from bed a good friend of mine pick me UP to go to work . I think i feel depresión or like bad for no emtoions AND no sexuality but More than that Cos i want a partner maybe just writing thoughts random Also feel really bad for the mistakes i Made . Tapering AND all . Cant forgive myself yet . I skipped doses like idiot AND lower dose of lorazepam too early It was minimun not even 5 % but still Im an idiot Hard to concéntrate with all this situation Ear noise 2 PM lorazepam 1,20 MG Lot of work stress . I dont have option Drove a bit 5 PM went to work Walk fast in the sun i was late at work AND only 5 blocks AND felt bad again Need to add mag maybe 6 PM dentist feeling sick (Dizzy AND weak ) Im doing healthy food no alcohol or drugs Walk idk Just head mess UP Thanks god canada warn me about Green tea caffeine 8 PM 1,20 MG lorazepam I have heat AND cold Drove my car for some hours Eat some chicken Now its 10 PM Time To 123 MG seroquel This Is from my Max idol ever John winston Lennon How can I go forward when I don't know which way I'm facing? How can I go forward when I don't know which way to turn? How can I go forward into something I'm not sure of? Oh no, oh no How can I have feeling when I don't know if it's a feeling? How can I feel something if I just don't know how to feel? How can I have feelings when my feelings have always been denied? Oh no, oh no You know life can be long And you got to be so strong And the world is so tough Sometimes I feel I've had enough How can I give love when I don't know what it is I'm giving? How can I give love when I just don't know how to give? How can I give love when love is something I ain't never had? Oh no, oh no You know life can be long You've got to be so strong And the world she is tough Sometimes I feel I've had enough How can we go forward when we don't know which way we're facing? How can we go forward when we don't know which way to turn? How can we go forward into something we're not sure of? Oh no, oh no I WISH I CAN ENJOY THIS SONG EVEN ONLY ONE More TIME felt soooo gooood . Maybe one day or never how knows GN 2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3 weeks and I was fine start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold on January on 187,5mg of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 03.7.23 Holding both doses May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel Hold on all meds Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 All we can do is learn from mistakes and move forward. You have to forgive yourself and not stress about it. Acceptance and heal. 👍 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
jeffelmexicano Posted October 1, 2023 Author Share Posted October 1, 2023 (edited) Ok . So my cns Is broke. This Will take years in heal If ever happens What should i do now continúe tapering down to 100 MG seroquel Or just go 3 years taper of lorazepam . Hard to know . Im still funcional for work Most of my symtpms are when i Made mistakes Idk why i tapered so well at the first lorazepam Now im stuck . Will add magnesium starting today Cns broken at this level i dont think can be fix but im not sure Brain damage Is scary i hope can heal also but how heal If everyday putting med Thanks for reading @Frogie @Shep @LostInCanada @MedRN Should i keep holding ? Hard to know i Guess Maybe i Will ad mag bysglicinate 50 MG I realize in the searching bar that i post too many things I came from a hard long years of life AND now this Broken cns AND bd I was waiting for the good years AND now all this pill thing thats why im so intense AND i apologice I been suffering from life last 4 years AND now More years Like i said i have the symptoms when i do something wrong Cns never go back to normal according what i read when some level of damage Is done Thanks for reading Edited October 1, 2023 by jeffelmexicano 2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3 weeks and I was fine start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold on January on 187,5mg of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 03.7.23 Holding both doses May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel Hold on all meds Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 @jeffelmexicano quit reading negative and go to the success stories on here. Hope and positivity is important to heal. Everything I read is you want to taper off the most activating. I think the lorazepam is the one. It is why Altostrata was having you concentrate on it. That is a high dose. But I have told you this before and it is up to you. I hold till the symptoms from the taper pass. It gets worse otherwise. 2 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted October 1, 2023 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted October 1, 2023 2 hours ago, jeffelmexicano said: Im still funcional for work Most of my symtpms are when i Made mistakes What do you mean by "when I made mistakes"? What types of mistakes have you made? Do you feel that you've recovered from those mistakes and are back at a good baseline? Link to comment
jeffelmexicano Posted October 1, 2023 Author Share Posted October 1, 2023 18 minutes ago, Shep said: What do you mean by "when I made mistakes"? What types of mistakes have you made? Do you feel that you've recovered from those mistakes and are back at a good baseline? For instance i ate a little chocolatte that mom give me AND felt bad next day idk If was the sugar or the caffeine ? That bring with chocolate ? Or stress at work or some tea or eat bad ... then i feel bad for a day or two AND get better . Coffeine was so good for ANHEDONIA i know im not doing it anymore Yes im in a baseline . I Guess @Shep 2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3 weeks and I was fine start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold on January on 187,5mg of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 03.7.23 Holding both doses May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel Hold on all meds Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG Link to comment
Moderator Emeritus Shep Posted October 2, 2023 Moderator Emeritus Share Posted October 2, 2023 18 hours ago, jeffelmexicano said: then i feel bad for a day or two AND get better . The fact that you're able to recover quickly is a great sign of resiliency, Jeffelmexicano. You're doing great. 22 hours ago, jeffelmexicano said: Will add magnesium starting today Have you already added in magnesium? If so, how does it make you feel? If you're adding in a supplement, I would not taper any of the drugs for at least two weeks to give your body time to adjust to the supplement. Link to comment
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