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Hey @jeffelmexicano are you feeling stable enough to taper? If not my suggestion is hold. If you can do smaller drops with out symptoms that is preferred. 

I can only drop 0.5% a week which works out to less than 2% a month so you are fortunate to be able to do higher than me. 

Just do what your body is telling you. 

We need time to heal.

It would be good to just taper that middle dose now. Also please update your signature. Click account then settings the setting area- signature.

20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine

TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4mg/

8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin

"... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15

I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others.

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Thanks for answer well i used to be able to do it 0.05 now idk i tried to speed UP AND screw it 

 

Ok now i Will try to change my signaturr 

 

2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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Oh idk how to change my signature 😕

 

@Lost  @LostInCanada

 

 Can you explain me why taper midle dose AND not all even 

 

Nice to hear about you 

2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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2 minutes ago, jeffelmexicano said:

able to do it 0.05 now i

Well 0.5% is 0.005 for me which is so tiny but better than nothing. You have to make the best of it. 

20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine

TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4mg/

8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin

"... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15

I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others.

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Click the 3 bars at the top, click Account, click Account Settings, then settings area then signature 

20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine

TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4mg/

8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin

"... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15

I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others.

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Cant change signature says too many lines but i put 6 only 

Will try later 

2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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22 minutes ago, jeffelmexicano said:

Can you explain me why taper midle dose AND not all even 

Lorazepam has a half life of 12 hours. That means you will keep the level of the drug evenly in your system if you take it 12 hours apart. The drug level is not level with the middle dose which can cause problems. 

@LotusRising has experience with benzos thankfully.

20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine

TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4mg/

8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin

"... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15

I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others.

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4 minutes ago, jeffelmexicano said:

Cant change signature says too many lines

You can try to remove some of the words from before. Best just to put date and dose. No need for symptoms.

20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine

TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4mg/

8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin

"... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15

I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others.

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8 hours ago, jeffelmexicano said:

Can you explain me why taper midle dose AND not all even

Hi @jeffelmexicano

 

Since lorazepam has a half life of 12 hrs, some people can get away with cutting out the middle dose, but there’s also some who can’t. 
 

Did Shep have you split your dose to 3 times daily? This might give you better coverage to prevent interdose withdrawal, but everyone is so individual. Personally, I found it easiest to keep each dose even - it left less room for error and kept the drug level even. 
 

 

 

 

2003-2009 on and off various SSRI's for short periods, Ativan prn

2010-2011 Ativan, up to 1.5mg/day - tapered off without issue

2013-2021 ativan 1-1.5mg 10-12x/month, daily starting Oct 21 to help with buspar WD

2016 - Effexor 75mg, short-term

2021 Mar -Jun Buspar ADR at high dose, tapered 3 months

2021 Aug Wellbutrin 150mg for 5 days (ADR), then MIrtazapine 7.5mg for 7 days (ADR)

Oct 22/21 - Direct switch ativan to clonazepam (don't do this)

Tapered clonaz Oct/21 - Apr/23  - 0mg!

 

Supplements: omega-3, mag-glycinate

 

"Believe that your tragedies, your losses, your sorrows, your hurt, happened for you, not to you. And I bless the thing that broke you down and cracked you open, because the world needs you open" - Rebecca Campbell

 

*** Disclaimer: Please note, my suggestions/comments are based on my own personal experiences. Please consult a knowledgeable practitioner to discuss decisions regarding your medical care *** 

 

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I cant no way to  change the signature i tried many times 

 

Im thinking what to do 

 

I need something for my stomach 

Is really bad 

Thanks @LostInCanada @LotusRising

2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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Ginger tea is what  works for me.

20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine

TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4mg/

8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin

"... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15

I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others.

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Gm . I go to sleep at 12 More or less 
When Is like 6 am i half wake UP AND half sleep AND dont feel too bad 

Then at 7 am i fully wake UP AND terror anxiety AND all funcions of bodt shut down AND i go to fnf mode . 

I need to cut that horror cylce

I cant continúe my taper ..like this or should continúe 

This severe i have since i over did sports 

How can i cut this cycle im thinking in magnesium 

My gf leave also that Is Some stress not much Cos i dotn hve emotions 

Thanks   @LotusRising   

2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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It might help to do gentler forms of exercise. Anything that raises your heart rate too high will also raise cortisol, which in our dysregulated state, the CNS can perceive as stress. Walking, yoga, maybe even light resistance-type exercises might be less stressful on your body.

 

Magnesium helps me, but it's subtle. I prefer magnesium bisglycinate - it's good for muscles. Others prefer threonate, it's really up to you. Both magnesium oxide and citrate can increase bowel function, so you may want to steer clear, unless that's a problem for you. I would recommend doing your own independent research to figure out which form might work for you.

2003-2009 on and off various SSRI's for short periods, Ativan prn

2010-2011 Ativan, up to 1.5mg/day - tapered off without issue

2013-2021 ativan 1-1.5mg 10-12x/month, daily starting Oct 21 to help with buspar WD

2016 - Effexor 75mg, short-term

2021 Mar -Jun Buspar ADR at high dose, tapered 3 months

2021 Aug Wellbutrin 150mg for 5 days (ADR), then MIrtazapine 7.5mg for 7 days (ADR)

Oct 22/21 - Direct switch ativan to clonazepam (don't do this)

Tapered clonaz Oct/21 - Apr/23  - 0mg!

 

Supplements: omega-3, mag-glycinate

 

"Believe that your tragedies, your losses, your sorrows, your hurt, happened for you, not to you. And I bless the thing that broke you down and cracked you open, because the world needs you open" - Rebecca Campbell

 

*** Disclaimer: Please note, my suggestions/comments are based on my own personal experiences. Please consult a knowledgeable practitioner to discuss decisions regarding your medical care *** 

 

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9 minutes ago, LotusRising said:

It might help to do gentler forms of exercise. Anything that raises your heart rate too high will also raise cortisol, which in our dysregulated state, the CNS can perceive as stress. Walking, yoga, maybe even light resistance-type exercises might be less stressful on your body.

 

Magnesium helps me, but it's subtle. I prefer magnesium bisglycinate - it's good for muscles. Others prefer threonate, it's really up to you. Both magnesium oxide and citrate can increase bowel function, so you may want to steer clear, unless that's a problem for you. I would recommend doing your own independent research to figure out which form might work for you.

Ok thanks . AND now i should hold the taper or continúe 

@LotusRising

2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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@jeffelmexicano I would recommend holding until symptoms settle.

2003-2009 on and off various SSRI's for short periods, Ativan prn

2010-2011 Ativan, up to 1.5mg/day - tapered off without issue

2013-2021 ativan 1-1.5mg 10-12x/month, daily starting Oct 21 to help with buspar WD

2016 - Effexor 75mg, short-term

2021 Mar -Jun Buspar ADR at high dose, tapered 3 months

2021 Aug Wellbutrin 150mg for 5 days (ADR), then MIrtazapine 7.5mg for 7 days (ADR)

Oct 22/21 - Direct switch ativan to clonazepam (don't do this)

Tapered clonaz Oct/21 - Apr/23  - 0mg!

 

Supplements: omega-3, mag-glycinate

 

"Believe that your tragedies, your losses, your sorrows, your hurt, happened for you, not to you. And I bless the thing that broke you down and cracked you open, because the world needs you open" - Rebecca Campbell

 

*** Disclaimer: Please note, my suggestions/comments are based on my own personal experiences. Please consult a knowledgeable practitioner to discuss decisions regarding your medical care *** 

 

                                                             *** Please do not send me PM's ***

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@jeffelmexicano I have been following your posts. I am impressed with all the hard work you are doing. You are a very brave person. How are you feeling these days? I don't speak Spanish but I will use a google translator. I hope it will make sense.

 

He estado siguiendo tus publicaciones. Estoy impresionado con todo el arduo trabajo que estás haciendo. Eres una persona muy valiente. ¿Cómo te sientes estos días? No hablo español pero usaré un traductor de google. Espero que tenga sentido.

 

 
 
 
 

 

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4 minutes ago, RachelSusan said:

@jeffelmexicano I have been following your posts. I am impressed with all the hard work you are doing. You are a very brave person. How are you feeling these days? I don't speak Spanish but I will use a google translator. I hope it will make sense.

 

He estado siguiendo tus publicaciones. Estoy impresionado con todo el arduo trabajo que estás haciendo. Eres una persona muy valiente. ¿Cómo te sientes estos días? No hablo español pero usaré un traductor de google. Espero que tenga sentido.

 

 
 
 
 

Hello yes im in a terrible state . Wich Is really terrible . Also i got herpes few weeks ago that mess with cns AND im much worst . 

 

Well i apriciete your corcern 

 

Long Time since i dont came here 

 

Thanks for all 

2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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@jeffelmexicano I am sorry to hear that you are such a bad state.  I hope that you feel better soon.

 

I am not a health professional in any way.  I do not give medical advice.   Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a professional medical practitioner.

 

NEW INFORMATION FOR GABAPENTIN TAPER

April 29, 2022 900 mg to 800 mg (11%), May 29, 2022 800 to 700 mg (12.5%), June 20, 2022 700 to 650mg (8%), July 20, 2022 650 to 575 (12%), August 20,  575 to 500 (13%),  Sept 20, 2020 500 to 475mg (5%) Nov 7, 2022 475 to 425 (11%), Nov 21, 2022 500mg

Medications: Gabapentin, Prednisone 1.5mg a day, Cortisol Inhaler daily. 

HISTORY FOR ZOLOFT TAPER

Feb. 2016 to June 2016  - Was on 150mg Zoloft.  Put on Gabapentin at 900mg a day in 2016 due to antidepressant withdrawal. 

Quit Zoloft (Sertraline) June  2016,  reinstated 50mg of Zoloft July 2016.  From July 2016  to October 2016 went from 50 mg down 2.3 mg. I up-dosed in November 2016 to 12.5 mg. Held there until January 2017 when I started a much slower taper.

STARTING SENSIBLE  ZOLOFT TAPERING USING GUIDELINES FROM THIS SITE

Dec. 10 2016  - switched to Liquid Zoloft (Sertraline) @ 12.5 mg.   Jan. 4, 2020 1.875 mg (6.3%). Jan. 25, 2020 1.75 mgFeb. 29, 2020 1.625mg (7.10%).  Apr. 4, 2020 1.5 mg.  May 9, 2020 1.375 mg.  June 6, 2020 1.25 mg. (9.10%).  July 4, 2020 1.125 mg. (10%).  August 15, 2020 1.0 mg.  Oct 24, 2020 .875 mg.  Nov. 28, 2020 .75mgJan 16, 2021 .685mg (8.7%).  Feb 13, 2021 .62mg. March 12, 2021 .56mg.  May 1, 2021 .375mg.  May 29, 2021 .25mg. June 26, 2021 .0125mg. July 25, 2021 .065mg. August 22, 2021 .048mg.  October 2, 2021 .043mg.  October 10, 2021 .038mg.  October 23, 2021 .035mg.  October 30, 2021 .032mg.  Nov. 13, 2021 .030 mg.  Dec 4, 2021 .0285 mg.  Dec 11, 2021 .0265 mg. Dec 18, 2021 .0246 mg. Dec 25, 2021 .023mg. Jan 1, 2022. 0 mg. OFF COMPLETELY

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I wont be feeling better soon 

At this rate i have minimun 5 years of tapering wich i decide not to do 

 

Ofc not 

Who can do this this long 

 

I was tapering good then stoped answer me AND messed UP 

 

I need something to calm the system . I decide not to taper for 6 years . Wich Is totally insane 

I have years of suffering 

 

My english was vas for this site 

I hope you understand this Letters 

 

See you on the other side 

2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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@jeffelmexicano

 

I encourage you to read through the success stories. There are many of us on the site, myself included, that felt like it wasn't worth going on, but I assure you, it absolutely IS worth it! There is so much on the other side of all this. 

 

 

 

 

2003-2009 on and off various SSRI's for short periods, Ativan prn

2010-2011 Ativan, up to 1.5mg/day - tapered off without issue

2013-2021 ativan 1-1.5mg 10-12x/month, daily starting Oct 21 to help with buspar WD

2016 - Effexor 75mg, short-term

2021 Mar -Jun Buspar ADR at high dose, tapered 3 months

2021 Aug Wellbutrin 150mg for 5 days (ADR), then MIrtazapine 7.5mg for 7 days (ADR)

Oct 22/21 - Direct switch ativan to clonazepam (don't do this)

Tapered clonaz Oct/21 - Apr/23  - 0mg!

 

Supplements: omega-3, mag-glycinate

 

"Believe that your tragedies, your losses, your sorrows, your hurt, happened for you, not to you. And I bless the thing that broke you down and cracked you open, because the world needs you open" - Rebecca Campbell

 

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@jeffelmexicano

 

I encourage you to read through the success stories. There are many of us on the site, myself included, that felt like it wasn't worth going on, but I assure you, it absolutely IS worth it! There is so much on the other side of all this. 

 

 

 

 

Succes ? I have like 5 years still of tapering . What kind of succes ? Lol 

My hormones AND many things are destroy my boddy Will not succes on recover .. 5 years ! 

2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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On 3/18/2024 at 5:51 AM, jeffelmexicano said:

Succes ? I have like 5 years still of tapering . What kind of succes ? Lol 

My hormones AND many things are destroy my boddy Will not succes on recover .. 5 years ! 

I dont have succes even in fórum ! Read my previous post how i was treated . I Will be free on the other side ...! Lo

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2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/forums/forum/28-success-stories-recovery-from-psychiatric-drug-withdrawal/

 

Many of us have days or months where we feel like we won't recover. I would try not to focus on the length of your taper but rather the things that are in your control. I found some comfort in reading through the success stories of others who suffered just as terribly, but still made it to the other side of tapering. 

 

Have you been continuing to hold your taper?

2003-2009 on and off various SSRI's for short periods, Ativan prn

2010-2011 Ativan, up to 1.5mg/day - tapered off without issue

2013-2021 ativan 1-1.5mg 10-12x/month, daily starting Oct 21 to help with buspar WD

2016 - Effexor 75mg, short-term

2021 Mar -Jun Buspar ADR at high dose, tapered 3 months

2021 Aug Wellbutrin 150mg for 5 days (ADR), then MIrtazapine 7.5mg for 7 days (ADR)

Oct 22/21 - Direct switch ativan to clonazepam (don't do this)

Tapered clonaz Oct/21 - Apr/23  - 0mg!

 

Supplements: omega-3, mag-glycinate

 

"Believe that your tragedies, your losses, your sorrows, your hurt, happened for you, not to you. And I bless the thing that broke you down and cracked you open, because the world needs you open" - Rebecca Campbell

 

*** Disclaimer: Please note, my suggestions/comments are based on my own personal experiences. Please consult a knowledgeable practitioner to discuss decisions regarding your medical care *** 

 

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On 3/17/2024 at 8:37 AM, jeffelmexicano said:

Suicide Is the only way for my Is obvious

 

See you on the other side 

Please don't make this permanent decision tonight. Sleep on it at the very least. Please do not do this to the people in your life. There are hotlines and places in Mexico to reach out to that might help.

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Pronouns: they/them/theirs 

Started on Prozac in early 2000s to treat cPTSD, been on various cocktails ever since.

2002-2004, 2017-2022: Buspar, tapered down to 0

2016-present: 100mg Seroquel for sleep -> May 2023: 90mg -> June 2023: 81mg -> September 2023: 72mg -> switched to brand name, much too strong, down to 60mg -> October 2023: 54mg -> November 2023: 50mg -> January 2024: 45mg -> April 2024: 40.5mg

2016-Present: 100mg Wellbutrin SR -> January 2023: 75mg IR (37.5mg 2x a day) -> February 2023 (33.75mg 2x a day) -> July 2023 (30.37mg 2x a day) -> August 2023: 27.33mg 2x a day 

2018-present: 25mg Pristiq

2015-present: 600mg Gabapentin (200mg 3x a day) -> December 2022: 300mg Gabapentin (100mg 3x a day) per GP's recommendation after side effects -> March 2023: 90mg 3x a day (switched to liquid suspension) -> April 2023: 81mg 3x a day -> September 2023: bad generic, switched back to homemade liquid; too strong after bad generic, down to 70mg 3x a day, still bad. Adjusted slowly till at 60mg 3x a day, much better. Long hold till -> December 2023: 54mg, still feels too high after November Seroquel switch from brand name to generic, doc recommended 50mg which feels better -> January 2024: When Wellbutrin went down, Gabapentin started putting me to sleep, went down to 45mg, then 41mg to stay awake, so far so good -> February 2024: 36mg, still too high, 34mg -> March 2024: 31mg, STILL too high, 30mg

Supplements: Multivitamin w/magnesium, probiotics, digestive enzymes, anti-viral nitric oxide nose spray as needed

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Hello @jeffelmexicano, I just wanted to stop by and check on you.  How are you doing and what's going on with you?  Please respond when you can because we are very concerned about your well-being, okay?  

 

Catina

Disclaimer:  This is not professional medical advice but is based on personal experience only.

1994 - 2017:  Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Paxil, Wellbutrin, Zoloft, Seroquel, Buspar, Lorazepam, Xanax, Ambien

2005-present:  Trazodone 50 mg 

2017:  Effexor XR 37.5 >> 75 mg 

2020 (March):  Began 10% monthly taper of Effexor XR (got down to 12 mg)

2021 (September):  Completely crashed.  Went back up to 37.5 mg but in doing so I kindled myself

2024:  1/1:  35.6 mg (-6 beads)  |  2/1:  33.8 mg (-11 beads)  |  3/1:  32.1 mg (-16 beads)  |   4/1:  (-18 beads)

Reasons for starting psych meds:  PMDD/Depression, Generalized Anxiety Disorder

Other medications:  Levothyroxine 75 mcg

Supplements:  Dr. Berg's Electrolyte Powder on occasion   

 

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How are you doing @jeffelmexicano?

2003-2009 on and off various SSRI's for short periods, Ativan prn

2010-2011 Ativan, up to 1.5mg/day - tapered off without issue

2013-2021 ativan 1-1.5mg 10-12x/month, daily starting Oct 21 to help with buspar WD

2016 - Effexor 75mg, short-term

2021 Mar -Jun Buspar ADR at high dose, tapered 3 months

2021 Aug Wellbutrin 150mg for 5 days (ADR), then MIrtazapine 7.5mg for 7 days (ADR)

Oct 22/21 - Direct switch ativan to clonazepam (don't do this)

Tapered clonaz Oct/21 - Apr/23  - 0mg!

 

Supplements: omega-3, mag-glycinate

 

"Believe that your tragedies, your losses, your sorrows, your hurt, happened for you, not to you. And I bless the thing that broke you down and cracked you open, because the world needs you open" - Rebecca Campbell

 

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On 3/19/2024 at 6:43 AM, LotusRising said:

How are you doing @jeffelmexicano?

Im ****t a piece of **** Is More than me . Tapering benzo ***** plus anhedonia **** from aps that i continúe taking lol 

 

No doctor to help family notjing 

 

Just way **** deep 

 

Anheodnia this **** from  aps noboddy heals . Is useless .

 

  

2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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@jeffelmexicano Hello Jeffelmexicano. It sounds like you are living in hell.  If you are currently tapering would you consider not tapering for a while? Just hold where you are at?  I am holding myself.  I haven't tapered in a year and a half.  Sometimes it is best to let out bodies get a good rest before we taper again.

 

Parece que estás viviendo en el infierno. Si actualmente está disminuyendo, ¿consideraría no hacerlo por un tiempo? ¿Solo espera donde estás? Me estoy sosteniendo. No he disminuido en un año y medio. A veces es mejor dejar que los cuerpos descansen bien antes de volver a reducir la dosis.
 
 
 

 

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NEW INFORMATION FOR GABAPENTIN TAPER

April 29, 2022 900 mg to 800 mg (11%), May 29, 2022 800 to 700 mg (12.5%), June 20, 2022 700 to 650mg (8%), July 20, 2022 650 to 575 (12%), August 20,  575 to 500 (13%),  Sept 20, 2020 500 to 475mg (5%) Nov 7, 2022 475 to 425 (11%), Nov 21, 2022 500mg

Medications: Gabapentin, Prednisone 1.5mg a day, Cortisol Inhaler daily. 

HISTORY FOR ZOLOFT TAPER

Feb. 2016 to June 2016  - Was on 150mg Zoloft.  Put on Gabapentin at 900mg a day in 2016 due to antidepressant withdrawal. 

Quit Zoloft (Sertraline) June  2016,  reinstated 50mg of Zoloft July 2016.  From July 2016  to October 2016 went from 50 mg down 2.3 mg. I up-dosed in November 2016 to 12.5 mg. Held there until January 2017 when I started a much slower taper.

STARTING SENSIBLE  ZOLOFT TAPERING USING GUIDELINES FROM THIS SITE

Dec. 10 2016  - switched to Liquid Zoloft (Sertraline) @ 12.5 mg.   Jan. 4, 2020 1.875 mg (6.3%). Jan. 25, 2020 1.75 mgFeb. 29, 2020 1.625mg (7.10%).  Apr. 4, 2020 1.5 mg.  May 9, 2020 1.375 mg.  June 6, 2020 1.25 mg. (9.10%).  July 4, 2020 1.125 mg. (10%).  August 15, 2020 1.0 mg.  Oct 24, 2020 .875 mg.  Nov. 28, 2020 .75mgJan 16, 2021 .685mg (8.7%).  Feb 13, 2021 .62mg. March 12, 2021 .56mg.  May 1, 2021 .375mg.  May 29, 2021 .25mg. June 26, 2021 .0125mg. July 25, 2021 .065mg. August 22, 2021 .048mg.  October 2, 2021 .043mg.  October 10, 2021 .038mg.  October 23, 2021 .035mg.  October 30, 2021 .032mg.  Nov. 13, 2021 .030 mg.  Dec 4, 2021 .0285 mg.  Dec 11, 2021 .0265 mg. Dec 18, 2021 .0246 mg. Dec 25, 2021 .023mg. Jan 1, 2022. 0 mg. OFF COMPLETELY

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Jeff, 

Nosotros los Mexicanos tenemos genes que causan que no puédanos absorber bien el Acido Folico (vitamina B9) .  Eso causa que se acumule  algo que se llama HOMOCYSTEINE.  Cuando la homocysteine esta alta, puede causar síntomas como los que tu tienes, tinnitus,  intolerancia a comidas, medicinas  y ejercicio, insomnia, ansiedad y querer comer azúcar (lo cual causa inflamación).   El cafe sube la homocysteine, creo que por eso tus síntomas son peor cuando tomas cafe.

 

Puedes ver el nivel de homocysteine con una prueba de sangre.  Y si el resultado esta alto lo puedes resolver con Betaine.  Betaine baja la homocysteine.

 

No te desesperes.  Lo que tienes se puede curar.

1994 Sinequan 150mg daily X 2 years then slow decrease

down to 10 mg for years because I got hives when stopped

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@PurpleRein @jeffelmexicano PurpleRain, I did not know this. If this could help Jeff it would be wonderful. Good luck Jeff.

 

I am not a health professional in any way.  I do not give medical advice.   Discuss any decisions about your medical care with a professional medical practitioner.

 

NEW INFORMATION FOR GABAPENTIN TAPER

April 29, 2022 900 mg to 800 mg (11%), May 29, 2022 800 to 700 mg (12.5%), June 20, 2022 700 to 650mg (8%), July 20, 2022 650 to 575 (12%), August 20,  575 to 500 (13%),  Sept 20, 2020 500 to 475mg (5%) Nov 7, 2022 475 to 425 (11%), Nov 21, 2022 500mg

Medications: Gabapentin, Prednisone 1.5mg a day, Cortisol Inhaler daily. 

HISTORY FOR ZOLOFT TAPER

Feb. 2016 to June 2016  - Was on 150mg Zoloft.  Put on Gabapentin at 900mg a day in 2016 due to antidepressant withdrawal. 

Quit Zoloft (Sertraline) June  2016,  reinstated 50mg of Zoloft July 2016.  From July 2016  to October 2016 went from 50 mg down 2.3 mg. I up-dosed in November 2016 to 12.5 mg. Held there until January 2017 when I started a much slower taper.

STARTING SENSIBLE  ZOLOFT TAPERING USING GUIDELINES FROM THIS SITE

Dec. 10 2016  - switched to Liquid Zoloft (Sertraline) @ 12.5 mg.   Jan. 4, 2020 1.875 mg (6.3%). Jan. 25, 2020 1.75 mgFeb. 29, 2020 1.625mg (7.10%).  Apr. 4, 2020 1.5 mg.  May 9, 2020 1.375 mg.  June 6, 2020 1.25 mg. (9.10%).  July 4, 2020 1.125 mg. (10%).  August 15, 2020 1.0 mg.  Oct 24, 2020 .875 mg.  Nov. 28, 2020 .75mgJan 16, 2021 .685mg (8.7%).  Feb 13, 2021 .62mg. March 12, 2021 .56mg.  May 1, 2021 .375mg.  May 29, 2021 .25mg. June 26, 2021 .0125mg. July 25, 2021 .065mg. August 22, 2021 .048mg.  October 2, 2021 .043mg.  October 10, 2021 .038mg.  October 23, 2021 .035mg.  October 30, 2021 .032mg.  Nov. 13, 2021 .030 mg.  Dec 4, 2021 .0285 mg.  Dec 11, 2021 .0265 mg. Dec 18, 2021 .0246 mg. Dec 25, 2021 .023mg. Jan 1, 2022. 0 mg. OFF COMPLETELY

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@jeffelmexicano

 

I'm sorry to hear you're in such a bad way. I think a lot of us can appreciate the immense difficulty and stamina it takes to taper from these medications. But I ask that you please consider that other members can become scared themselves when they read of others feeling suicidal. In the interest of other members, could you please remind yourself of this before posting, otherwise we may need to start reviewing your posts prior to them going public.

 

I would encourage you to reach out to friends/family for support, or call a crisis line, per my earlier post, as there is a limit to what we can do for you with an online forum.

 

As RachelSusan has pointed out, it may be advisable to continue holding for now.

 

Please keep going jeffmexicano. 

 

 

2003-2009 on and off various SSRI's for short periods, Ativan prn

2010-2011 Ativan, up to 1.5mg/day - tapered off without issue

2013-2021 ativan 1-1.5mg 10-12x/month, daily starting Oct 21 to help with buspar WD

2016 - Effexor 75mg, short-term

2021 Mar -Jun Buspar ADR at high dose, tapered 3 months

2021 Aug Wellbutrin 150mg for 5 days (ADR), then MIrtazapine 7.5mg for 7 days (ADR)

Oct 22/21 - Direct switch ativan to clonazepam (don't do this)

Tapered clonaz Oct/21 - Apr/23  - 0mg!

 

Supplements: omega-3, mag-glycinate

 

"Believe that your tragedies, your losses, your sorrows, your hurt, happened for you, not to you. And I bless the thing that broke you down and cracked you open, because the world needs you open" - Rebecca Campbell

 

*** Disclaimer: Please note, my suggestions/comments are based on my own personal experiences. Please consult a knowledgeable practitioner to discuss decisions regarding your medical care *** 

 

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Well i mentioned that considerring no one heal from benzo AND aps damage . 

Have some Time in this . When you pass a Threshold its over cant go back from this damage . Thats all . 

 

Ye suicide Is not good for family AND friends AND for one person . True .

 

So need to keep living in damage like cripple for ever . Thats what life gives  . What gonna do Is sad but it Is what it Is .  

2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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@jeffelmexicano

 

I would encourage you to try to remain optimistic in your healing. There are many that have healed before you, or have made great strides in their path off medications. Yes, it is not an easy task, but I assure you, it is all worth it ❤️

2003-2009 on and off various SSRI's for short periods, Ativan prn

2010-2011 Ativan, up to 1.5mg/day - tapered off without issue

2013-2021 ativan 1-1.5mg 10-12x/month, daily starting Oct 21 to help with buspar WD

2016 - Effexor 75mg, short-term

2021 Mar -Jun Buspar ADR at high dose, tapered 3 months

2021 Aug Wellbutrin 150mg for 5 days (ADR), then MIrtazapine 7.5mg for 7 days (ADR)

Oct 22/21 - Direct switch ativan to clonazepam (don't do this)

Tapered clonaz Oct/21 - Apr/23  - 0mg!

 

Supplements: omega-3, mag-glycinate

 

"Believe that your tragedies, your losses, your sorrows, your hurt, happened for you, not to you. And I bless the thing that broke you down and cracked you open, because the world needs you open" - Rebecca Campbell

 

*** Disclaimer: Please note, my suggestions/comments are based on my own personal experiences. Please consult a knowledgeable practitioner to discuss decisions regarding your medical care *** 

 

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59 minutes ago, LotusRising said:

@jeffelmexicano

 

I would encourage you to try to remain optimistic in your healing. There are many that have healed before you, or have made great strides in their path off medications. Yes, it is not an easy task, but I assure you, it is all worth it ❤️

In my case not worth it even owner of site told me my case Is severe . Thanks anyway 

2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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I read the post about vit d 

I have deficiency but i tried supp with vit d3 just a bit AND give me some anxiety 

 

Sun can give enoguh vit d ? 

 

I also have testosterone definency 

But i cant take steroids or do lift Weigth 

What should i do 

2021 - Seroquel 250mg and lorazepam 4,75 mg 

i was tapering 12,5 mg every 3  weeks and I was fine

start tapering 2022 November or December I can remember now im on 187,5 mg Seroquel on hold 

on January on 187,5mg  of Seroquel I skipped a dose of lorazepam of my 3 intakes and enter into wd. im on hold of both meds

my dose of lorazepam is still on 4,75mg 

03.7.23 Holding both doses 

May 25, 2023 - lorazepam reduced from 1,34 MG to 1,20 MG at night (total lorazepam: 1.25 morning, 1.25 afternoon, 1.20 mg evening = 3.7 mg), Seroquel still at 187.5 mg

June 23 2023 down seroquel to 151 ,8 MG 

July 7 136 mg seroquel -july28 123 MG seroquel 

Hold on all meds 

Down from 1,25 MG to 1,20 MG lorazepam 8 am dose _8.22.23 _ Hold both meds very unstable currently 1,20 MG am 1,25 MG 2 PM 1,20 MG 8 PM 123 MG seroquel 10 pm_ total lorazepam 3,65 MG 

 

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I just took a vit d supplement and now I'm anxious trembling sweating nausea. 

I only took a child's dose. 

 

2015- Jan 2021 20mg Citalapram

Jan 2021- April 2021 Sertraline (CT)

June 2021 - Fluoxetine & Trazadone

Oct 2021- Trazadone to Quitiapin 

Oct 2021 to June 2022 switches Duloxetine then paroxatine then Venlafaxine.

June 2022- venlafaxine for 5 or 6 weeks at 37.5 twice daily. Upped for one week to 75mg twice daily but caused panic attacks. Dropped back down to 37.5 twice daily. Panic attacks stopped. 

1 week- 62.5mg 1 week- 50mg 1 week- 37.5mg 1 week - 25mg 

ANTIDEPRESSANT FREE SINCE JULY 22ND 2022!! 

18/05/23 - 01-06/23 doxycycline for a rat bite 

Taken propranalol since 2015. 80mg.

21/11/22 76mg. 28/11/22 72mg. 05/12/22 68mg. 19/12/22 64mg. 27/12/22 60mg. 02/01/23 56mg. 09/01/23 50mg. 16/01/23 47mg. 23/01/23 44mg. 29/01/23 40mg. 05/02/23 38mg. 12/02/23 35mg. 19/02/23 32mg. 25/02/23 27mg. 04/03/23 25mg. 11/03/23 22mg. 17/03/23 19mg. 24/03/23 20mg. 05/04/23 18mg. 11/04/23 16mg. 17/04/23 14mg. 27/04/23 20mg. 19/06/23 19mg. 25/06/23 20mg. 04/08/23 18mg. 11/08/23 17mg. 16/08/23 16mg. 25/08/23 15mg. 01/09/23 14mg. 08/09/23 13mg. 15/08/23 12mg. 22/09/23 11mg. 29/09/23 10mg. 19/11/23 9mg. 26/11/23 8mg. 03/12/23 7mg. 10/12/23 6mg. 17/12/23 5mg. 24/12/23 4mg. 31/01/23 3mg. 07/01/24 2mg. 13/01/24 1mg. 19/01/24 0mg. DONE! 

 

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