Caesar65: Escitalopram withdrawal within only 5 weeks after taking it for 18 years/unbearable symptoms since 1 year after withdrawal/advice urgently needed!

[Catina7]

I'm so sorry for your suffering.  My anxiety gets so intense too.  What coping skills are you using to help you get through these unbearable symptoms?  Make a list of all the things you can do to help yourself.  The more resources we have, the greater our capacity to endure.  Sending you warm, healing thoughts.

[Caesar65]

3 hours ago, Altostrata said:

Please post daily notes in this simple list format without the narrative. Thank you.

Or should  I better stop this reinstating? My doctor is trying to convince me or better force me to increase the dose, otherwise I could finally end up in a clinic and will be treated with other drugs. 

 

 

[Caesar65]

49 minutes ago, Catina7 said:

I'm so sorry for your suffering.  My anxiety gets so intense too.  What coping skills are you using to help you get through these unbearable symptoms?  Make a list of all the things you can do to help yourself.  The more resources we have, the greater our capacity to endure.  Sending you warm, healing thoughts.

I am barely not able to do do anything, especially in daytime, everything gets worse,
And today it was more extremely than the days before. Hard to describe. I thank you so much! 

 

[Catina7]

5 minutes ago, Caesar65 said:

I am barely not able to do do anything, especially in daytime, everything gets worse,
And today it was more extremely than the days before. Hard to describe. I thank you so much! 

 

 

I'm sorry.  I know you're not able to do much, but can you find things that make you feel calmer and safe?  You can always try some guided meditation to help you relax and get your mind off things for a little while.  There are lots of videos on YouTube.  Try to find things you can do to help yourself.

[Altostrata]

3 hours ago, Caesar65 said:

Or should  I better stop this reinstating? My doctor is trying to convince me or better force me to increase the dose, otherwise I could finally end up in a clinic and will be treated with other drugs. 

 

I have been asking you for daily notes to answer that question. Please make it easy for me to understand your symptom pattern without the long asides and repeated complaints. What I want to know is when you get symptoms, what those symptoms are, and what happens before and after you take your drugs.

[Caesar65]

Could I please get the links for the updated diagnosis of AWS  ICD \ DSM used in US or England because in Germany there is none.  I already read it here but can’t find it anymore. 
Thank you! 

[manymoretodays]

5 hours ago, Caesar65 said:

Could I please get the links for the updated diagnosis of AWS  ICD \ DSM used in US or England because in Germany there is none.  I already read it here but can’t find it anymore. 
Thank you! 

 

Is this what you are looking for Caesar?

DSM-5 Diagnosis Code: Antidepressant Discontinuation Syndrome 995.29(ICD-10 T43.205A)

 

It's in symptoms and self care.

[Caesar65]

2 hours ago, manymoretodays said:

Is this what you are looking for Caesar?

Thank you very much, but this code I have already. It was another long text including updates for several years, posted by Alto. I guess it was from 2018 - 2020 or 2022? 

In Germany there is still no diagnose code for SSRI withdrawal longterm symptoms,

it´s a shame. 

Peter Lehmann the book publisher discussed that point at a conference, but unfortunately without success so far. But thank you for your help!

I feel so bad, that I was not able to continue posting in here, feel absolutely overwhelmed and exhausted with everything. And this anxiety and drowsiness or numbness drives me crazy, there is barely no concentration. 

[manymoretodays]

Oooh, too bad.

 

I saw a recent update too Caesar65.  I'm tapped out today but will search again when fresh.  It might have been in Journals and Scientific Sources or In the Media forums?? 

[Caesar65]

34 minutes ago, manymoretodays said:

Oooh, too bad.

 

I saw a recent update too Caesar65.  I'm tapped out today but will search again when fresh.  It might have been in Journals and Scientific Sources or In the Media forums?? 

Yes, I am quite sure it was there. But I am so limited, all my actions seem delayed, I forget a lot of things, it is frightening. 

I thank you, once again. I even lost my diary notes for alto and had computer problems, too. I don’t function anymore like I used to be. 😢 
But what I can say for sure is that since reinstating I received beside my permanent withdrawal symptoms some of the side effects of Lexapro, that I already had over the years.
 I have to go urinating several times at night, I have constipation and I have great problems to sleep, it‘s like I am only between doozing and being awaked. And since a few days my skin shows something like skin rash. At this moment when I write this the terrible anxiety is better. But for how long? 

 

Edited April 17, 2023 by Caesar65

[manymoretodays]

Look at the last post in the link I gave you.

Altostrata posted that at the end of March of this year.

I think that is the one you previously saw, and then take your time distinguishing ICD codes from DSM diagnoses.......you'll find more at the start of that topic on that.

 

Your brain will come back......it just takes time.

[Tulip52]

I’m hesitant to comment because I’m not a professional but have you tried upping your potassium and sodium?

 

The adrenal cocktail does calm my cortisol spikes a little.

 

4 oz orange juice

1/4 tsp Celtic sea salt or Himalayan pink salt

1/4 tsp cream of tartar

 

take on empty stomach and no food  for an hour.  
 

I am sending you a big hug and lifting you in prayer.  ❤️ 

[Caesar65]

On 4/6/2023 at 4:24 AM, Altostrata said:

 

I have been asking you for daily notes to answer that question. Please make it easy for me to understand your symptom pattern without the long asides and repeated complaints. What I want to know is when you get symptoms, what those symptoms are, and what happens before and after you take your drugs.

Date: 06^th APRIL 23 

0500 a.m. woke up with painful anal spasms and exhausted

0630 a.m. taking magnesium 300 mg

1230 p.m. 0,5 mg Lexapro dose reduced 

1300 p.m. Breakfast very strong anxiety, drowsiness / numbness in head lasting all day long so as the weakness in arms which is permanent present; heart palpitations, feeling of unreality

1800 p.m. teatime 

1900 p.m. dinner with Omega 3 

0200 a.m. going to bed but no sleep just doozing

 

Date 07  th April 23

0830 a.m. woke up very exhausted 

1230 p.m. 1,0 mg Lexapro heart palpitations, anxiety 

1300 p.m. breakfast anxiety very strong

1800 p.m. teatime with magnesium 

1900 p.m. dinner with Omega 3

0100 a.m. going to bed but no sleep /several times WC

 

Date 08 th April 23

0900 a.m. woke up very exhausted and with strong anxiety, dizziness, numbness in head, feeling unreality

1230 p.m. 1 mg Lexapro 

1300 p.m. breakfast with same symptoms like  heart palpitations, strong anxiety

1800 p.m. teatime with magnesium 

1900 p.m. dinner with Omega 3

0300 a.m. going to bed but no sleep just doozing/ several times WC

  

09^th April 23

1000 a.m. Woke up very exhausted and full of grief

1030 a.m. 1 mg Lexapro strong anxiety, heavily heart palpitations

1100 a.m. breakfast numbness dizziness stronger, anxiety unbearable

1700 p.m. teatime

1800 p.m. magnesium

2000 p.m. dinner Omega 3 Capsule

2300 p.m. anxiety little better

0200 a.m. going to bed but no sleep / several times WC

 

10^th April 23

0930 a.m.Woke up exhausted and full of grief

1100 a.m. 1 mg Lexapro strong anxiety, numbness

1115h going to bed again

1300h getting up strong anxiety

1600h teatime and magnesium

1900h dinner and 1 Omega capsule

2200h herbal capsule for sleep

0200h going to bed but no sleep / several times WC

 

11^th April 23

0730h a.m. woke up totally exhausted , strong numbness in head, vertigo

0930h a.m.Lexapro 1 mg

1030h a.m.Breakfast strong anxiety, bodily weakness, heart palpitations

1600h a.m. teatime some magnesium

1900h a.m.dinner omega 3 capsule

2200h herbal capsule for sleep

0000h a.m. going to bed but no sleep / several times WC

 

 12^th April 23

0730h a.m. Woke up very exhausted numbness in head

0930h a.m. Lexapro 1 mg

1030h a.m.breakfast strong anxiety, heavily heart palpitations

1300h a.m.getting up again strong anxiety, numbness , feeling unreality

1600h a.m. teatime some magnesium

1900h a.m.dinner 1 Omega capsule

2400h herbal capsule for sleep (Melatonin/hop)

0130h going to bed but  no sleep/ several times WC

 

13^th April 23

0730h a.m. woke up very exhausted, numbness in head

0830h a.m.Lexapro 1 mg

1000h a.m.breakfast strong heart palpitations, strong anxiety, numbness

1700h a.m.teatime strong anxiety, heart palpitations, weakness

2000h a.m.dinner feeling exhausted, numbness in head

 

14th April 23

0730h a.m. woke up very exhausted, numbness in head

0800h a.m. Lexapro 1 mg

0900h a.m.getting up again strong anxiety, heart palpitations, numbness, weakness

1300h a.m. lunch

1800h a.m. teatime strong anxiety, numbness,

2100h a.m. dinner

2300h  a.m. herbal capsule for sleep

0100h going to bed but can´t sleep/several times WC

  

15^th April 23

0930h a.m. woke up very exhausted, full of grief, numbness

1030h a.m.Lexapro 1 mg

1200h a.m. breakfast strong anxiety, heavily heart palpitations, weakness

1600h a.m. teatime still strong anxiety, heart palpitations, numbness

2000h dinner some magnesium

2400h a.m. herbal capsule for sleep

0200h a.m. going to bed but can´t sleep just doozing/several times WC

 

16^th of April 23

0930h a.m. woke up very exhausted, full of grief, numbness

1030h a.m. Lexpro 1 mg

1200h breakfast strong anxiety unbearable, heart palpitations, weakness, vertigo, numbness, drowsiness, heart palpitations,

1700h teatime strong anxiety, weakness, numbness, drowsiness

2000h dinner Omega Capsule

2300h a.m. herbal capsule for sleep

0100h a.m. going to bed but can´t sleep at all/several times WC

 

17^th April 23

0630h woke up very exhausted, numbness in head

1030h a.m.getting up Lexapro 1 mg going to bed again

1230h a.m. breakfast strong anxiety, numbness, drowsiness, weakness, heart palpitations

1600h a.m.teatime strong anxiety, numbness, drowsiness, weakness, heart palpitations

1900h a.m.dinner some magnesium

2300h a.m. herbal capsule for sleep (1 mg Melatonin, Hop)

0100h a.m. going to bed but can´t sleep just doozing /several times WC

 

[Caesar65]

19 hours ago, Tulip52 said:

I am sending you a big hug and lifting you in prayer.  ❤️ 

So do I ! Don´t know, how long I can bear this situation anymore, really. 

[Caesar65]

On 4/6/2023 at 4:24 AM, Altostrata said:

have been asking you for daily notes to answer that question. Please make it easy for me to understand your symptom pattern without the long asides and repeated complaints. What I want to know is when you get symptoms, what those symptoms are, and what happens before and after you take your drugs.

I hope I did it with the current list in the right way, as you wish. I apologize for any inconvience caused. I really try to take much effort. 

What I know for sure that I have got absolutely no relief so far with reinstating since March 25th. 

And I can say that I still have all the same symptoms in same strenght remained like before reinstating. Nothing developed better in any way. At some days every symptoms even worse like I described. 

 

24 hours a day I feel before and after taking dosages of Lexapro:

numbness, drowsiness in head, confusion, debilitated, eyes often half closed; bodily weakness in arms, brain fog, difficulty concentrating,  cognitive disorder; inability to make decisions; great forgetfulness, restlessness; feeling of unreality and melancholy; aso. 

The heart palpitations are like daily waves lasting for several hours, so with the strong anxiety; I wrote in the list. 

 

This is new: 

since April 4th absolutely no sleep anymore! 

severe constipation;

every nighttime urgent need of urinating at least 3 or 4 times! 

(There is no infection.) 

feeling of developing like emotional numbness

often muscle cramps in early morning

 

 

 

 

 

[Caesar65]

On 4/6/2023 at 4:24 AM, Altostrata said:

 

I have been asking you for daily notes to answer that question. Please make it easy for me to understand your symptom pattern without the long asides and repeated complaints. What I want to know is when you get symptoms, what those symptoms are, and what happens before and after you take your drugs. 

18th April 23 
0700h a.m. woke up with numbness in head, feeling exhausted 

0830h a.m.getting up Lexapro 1 mg 

1230h a.m. lunch  strong anxiety, numbness, drowsiness, weakness, heart palpitations

1700h  a.m. teatime strong anxiety, numbness, drowsiness, weakness, heart palpitations

1900h a.m. dinner some magnesium, L Theanin

2300h a.m. herbal capsule for sleep (1 mg Melatonin, Hop) palpitations better 

0100h a.m. going to bed but can´t sleep just doozing /several times WC

[Caesar65]

19th April 23

0830h a.m. woke up with severe anxiety and feeling exhausted 

1045 h a.m. 1 mg Lexapro heart palpitations, 

1330h a.m.lunch numbness, anxiety, weakness, kognitive disorder, no concentration, restlessness 

1800h a.m.teatime heavy heart palpitations again, some magnesium and Omega Capsule

2000h a.m.dinner dizziness, L Theanin

0130h a.m. heart palpitations better/ going to bed but absolutely no sleep! / forced to go several times to WC 

0730h a.m. still no sleep feeling totally exhausted and debilitated numbness, weakness

 

Please give me any advice, please! Please see also my last posts, too. 
Until today all symptoms remain unchanged, and sometimes worse, I feel no relief so far since 25th March, when I started. ˋ

 

What I have in addition to my symptoms is : 

absolutely no sleep anymore! 

severe constipation;

every nighttime urgent need of urinating at least 3 or 4 times. 

This was also very often the case when I still was on Lexapro 20 mg. 
 

Every day I hesitate to take the drug. It’s getting more and more hopeless for me. 

I visited another doctor and was full of hope, but again I get very disappointed. He claims, there is no longterm withdrawal of SSRI, it can’t be. All the symptoms are part of depression, and he prescribed me Tianeurax / Tianeptin.😢 And he was laughing, when I told him, that I try to reinstate with very small doses. Such a small dose can have no effect, he said. It is so frustrating. 
 

 

 

 

[SertralineIssues29]

Hey after reading through a bit I'm wondering from what I've seen if maybe your having adverse reactions now

 

I'm no expert and I'm sure a mod would be better at telling but if your having additional symptoms not there before reinstatement then it might be wise to say it's not good for you

 

Again that's just my opinion though do not take it as gospel

 

Either way I'm wishing you the best of healing 

 

SI xx

[Caesar65]

53 minutes ago, SertralineIssues29 said:

Hey after reading through a bit I'm wondering from what I've seen if maybe your having adverse reactions now

 

I'm no expert and I'm sure a mod would be better at telling but if your having additional symptoms not there before reinstatement then it might be wise to say it's not good for you

 

Again that's just my opinion though do not take it as gospel

 

Either way I'm wishing you the best of healing 

 

SI xx

Thank you for your message, I am so much waiting for an advice, but didn’t get any reply until now. I am really desperate. Don’t know what to do.

 

[Caesar65]

Is there anybody to help me??!! Please! I don’t know what to do anymore 😢 

[Caesar65]

On 4/18/2023 at 1:27 AM, manymoretodays said:

Look at the last post in the link I gave you.

Altostrata posted that at the end of March of this year.

I think that is the one you previously saw, and then take your time distinguishing ICD codes from DSM diagnoses.......you'll find more at the start of that topic on that.

 

Your brain will come back......it just takes time.

Could you please look into my last posts ? I don’t know what to do anymore, when I wrote in my lists „woke up“ it means actually that I didn’t sleep at all. I hear the alarm clock, and I am already always not sleeping. It’s a nightmare😢 I didn’t get reply anymore, I am sorry to cry for help. 

I am full of despair. 

[manymoretodays]

Hi Caesar65,

The only thing I can recommend, after looking at several of your daily notes is for you to get real consistent with the time you take the 1 mg liquid escitalopram.

I'm seeing 8 and 8:30 and 9 in the morning and then 10:30.  I might have spied one at noon even.

Looks like the 10:30 am hour might work best, and really try hard to take the dose at that time if you continue, or go earlier but stay really consistent.  It can make a difference.

 

And.....then 17 days now at 1 mg.

 

Have the nighttime palpations improved, at all, even if inconsistently?

And I hear you.....I do, you are feeling witless without a clue of how to dig out.

Sometimes......just hanging on will work.

 

You've done a fair job with the dailies.  And it's not you......staff is out sick, or out working......or paddling water(myself), which is more often the usual than not.  But we are here.

 

Any strong feeling yeah or nay from yourself as far as abandoning this reinstatement trial or going up a small amount even?  Other option would be stay at 1 mg for a full 4 weeks.

 

It's not clear to me either if there is any improvement even slight........or if you are worsening versus that your expectations were just too high around this.

 

I'll put you in for conferring, as like I said I'm a bit wobbly these days but will come around to hold your hand virtually.

 

If you abandon the reinstatement or if not......you can still benefit from as much non-drug coping as you can wrap your head around.  In fact continue with the dailies making sure to add if you tried something/anything even if it's just imagining better days.

 

Insomnia is one of the most trying WD symptoms.  Please see: Tips to help sleep

And then for other ideas to help get through these miserable times you are in:

Non-drug techniques to cope  The first post there has a whole indexed list at the bottom of different things you could try and experiment with

 

If you are able to sit up and read when awakening in the night, I wonder if that might help a bit until you feel re-tired......very tired enough to get back in bed and try again.  Set an alarm if you continue the 1 mg escitalopram to keep that timing precise(in case you sleep in).

 

Obviously.....I'm torn whether to tell you to stop now, or updose an eensy bit.......hence will confer.  I do however, want to hear how you are feeling over all about continuing versus abandoning the reinstatement.  Separately from the dailies.  I promise to read.  Do try and remain hopeful too, and put it in your writing(just saying as that has helped me shift many a time).

Continue to pay good attention to eating, even when it is the last thing you think about.  Keep up the walks to the cemetary?  Is your loss recent?  I mean that could certainly play a part.

 

I'm leaning towards a strong no, or nay on having you start another drug or go inpatient to a clinic myself.  I think you'll find it, within to soldier on and find a shift to hope and maybe some new things to pursue to cope.

 

So hoping that just the little interaction has helped.  So many Caesar65, like you, and just starving for some human connection right now.......and we all know it makes a huge difference.  You're courageous.  Keep it going.

 

L, P, H, and G,

mmt

 

 

[Altostrata]

On 4/18/2023 at 3:19 PM, Caesar65 said:

1230 p.m. 1,0 mg Lexapro heart palpitations, anxiety 

 

You increased from 0.5mg to 1.0mg Lexapro? Why did you do that?

 

Do you feel better or worse after you take 1.0mg Lexapro?

 

On 4/20/2023 at 2:22 AM, Caesar65 said:

18th April 23 
0700h a.m. woke up with numbness in head, feeling exhausted 

0830h a.m.getting up Lexapro 1 mg 

1230h a.m. lunch  strong anxiety, numbness, drowsiness, weakness, heart palpitations

1700h  a.m. teatime strong anxiety, numbness, drowsiness, weakness, heart palpitations

1900h a.m. dinner some magnesium, L Theanin

2300h a.m. herbal capsule for sleep (1 mg Melatonin, Hop) palpitations better 

0100h a.m. going to bed but can´t sleep just doozing /several times WC

 

It appears you get heart palpitations twice a day, after you take Lexapro in the morning and again in the early evening?

 

Please change a.m. to p.m. after noon.

[Caesar65]

50 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

Do you feel better or worse after you take 1.0mg Lexapro?

I can’t say at all that I feel better, all symptoms remain and get much stronger throughout the day. 

After just taking it, there is first no big difference, but the whole day is a torturous day with heavily heart palpitations lasting for hours, or like today lasting all day long. 

First everything developed extremely worse, then I reduced again to 0,5 mg for 2 days, and then again 1 mg. I wrote about it April 5/6th. 
 

These severe symptoms I have got in addition since this April: 

- Absolutely no sleep anymore! I can’t sleep! I am always awake. 

- severe constipation! 

- every nighttime urgent need of urinating at least 3 or 4 times. 

This was also very often the case when I still was on Lexapro 20 mg, but the sleep pattern was quite better. ( please see my posts from Wednesday/ Thursday ) 

All the wellknown symptoms remain still every day, and are very disabling like before reinstating and there are severe waves when the undescribable feelings of strong anxiety, numbness in head, confusion, no clear thinking gets extremely worse, and makes me totally unable to concentrate for anything, like simple things, fe reading a newspaper or writing. 
But this already appeared also without Lexapro since last year. A very disabling feeling is the heavy difficult of making decisions for me, whatever it is.

I waste a lot of time with it. 

 

 

[Caesar65]

2 hours ago, Altostrata said:

appears you get heart palpitations twice a day, after you take Lexapro in the morning and again in the early evening?

It is different, like this Tuesday they appeared not so long and not that strong, like in morning and early ev. But this is rare. 

Today and yesterday they lasted all day long, very strong, and since 2300 hrs p.m. this evening I don’t feel them anymore, but this is very rare. All day long they were very noticeable until then, very debilitating, and with strong anxiety. 

 

 

 

[Altostrata]

You take 1mg Lexapro between 8 a.m. and 12:30 p.m.? That's too great a span of time. The inconsistency may cause some of your symptoms. Please take Lexapro at the same time each day.

 

On 4/20/2023 at 11:19 PM, Caesar65 said:

19th April 23

0830h a.m. woke up with severe anxiety and feeling exhausted 

1045 h a.m. 1 mg Lexapro heart palpitations, 

1330h a.m.lunch numbness, anxiety, weakness, kognitive disorder, no concentration, restlessness 

1800h a.m.teatime heavy heart palpitations again, some magnesium and Omega Capsule

2000h a.m.dinner dizziness, L Theanin

0130h a.m. heart palpitations better/ going to bed but absolutely no sleep! / forced to go several times to WC 

0730h a.m. still no sleep feeling totally exhausted and debilitated numbness, weakness

 

 

Your daily notes consistently report heart palpitations start shortly after you take Lexapro AND in the early evening. Is this correct? If not, please continue to post daily notes with the correct detail about the palpitations.

 

Do you have breakfast each day?

[Caesar65]

8 minutes ago, Altostrata said:

You take 1mg Lexapro between 8 a.m. and 12:30 p.m.? That's too great a span of time. The inconsistency may cause some of your symptoms. Please take Lexapro at the same time each day.

Every day I hesitate to take it, I feel a strong inner resistance  against taking it, and try to delay taking it, can’t make up my mind. Of course it should be always the same time. And I always think about and would like to reduce it again.
 

Because I feel no relief, but the severe insomnia, severe constipation and the urgency’s to WC every night. I am not able to sleep anymore! I am awake, when I wrote „woke up“ that means actually I was already awake. Unbearable! 
Will this be temporary or not? I ask myself. 

Should I continue reinstating? And  will I get a feeling of well- being? 
 

And I don’t have breakfast every day. 
 

[Caesar65]

On 4/22/2023 at 12:24 AM, Altostrata said:

You increased from 0.5mg to 1.0mg Lexapro? Why did you do that?

I went to my doctor, and is was like he demanded me to increase, at least to 1 mg, because a small dose of 0,5 mg from his perspective, will have no effect, even though I reported my symptoms again. He said, if you are in a clinic, you will get much higher doses, if you want it or not.

He always says, there are no longterm withdrawal symptoms, like so many others, too. He told me to push through and see what happens then. And full of despair, I tried it out.

I am sorry.

And then the next days were extremely worse, also extremely when I reduced again to 0,5 mg. It was in the first week of April. Please see my posts from this dates, too.

 

 

[LostInCanada]

@Caesar65 I am so sorry you are dealing with this. First I have to ask, does your doctor have the authority to have you put in a clinic? If so be careful what you tell him. If it was me, I would let him think you increased but of course would follow the direction here. I also saw in your thread “teatime”. I do not know if this is literal but caffeine whether tea, coffee or chocolate is not good for your CNS. Neither is alcohol, nicotine, CBD or many supplements. Are you taking any of these things? Do you take magnesium biglycinate or fish oil as recommended?  

[Caesar65]

22 hours ago, Altostrata said:

Your daily notes consistently report heart palpitations start shortly after you take Lexapro AND in the early evening. Is this correct? If not, please continue to post daily notes with the correct detail about the palpitations.

The heart palpitations were also there before reinstatement, 

but seems like developing worse since then.

 

20th April 23

0730h a.m. "woke up" very exhausted, full of grief, numbness, weakness,  (whenever I wrote woke up means, that I am already always awake, can´t sleep at all!) 

0830h a.m. Lexapro 1 mg anxiety, heart palpitations, totally numbness, debilitated, 

1300h lunch still strong anxiety, still heart palpitations,

the following symptoms permanently lasting all day long every single day: 

weakness, numbness, drowsiness, feeling unreality, state of confusion, no concentration, great forgetfulness; kognitive disorder; debilitated; joylessness; loss of appetite; 

1800h teatime  Omega Capsule, Magnesium, still heart palpitations; 

2000h dinner heart palpitations and anxiety little better, but the other symptoms remain 

2300h a.m. herbal capsule for sleep

0100h a.m. going to bed but can´t sleep at all/several times WC

 

 

 

 

[Caesar65]

On 4/21/2023 at 10:06 PM, manymoretodays said:

So hoping that just the little interaction has helped.  So many Caesar65, like you, and just starving for some human connection right now.......and we all know it makes a huge difference.  You're courageous.  Keep it going.

 

L, P, H, and G,

Dear MMtodays,

 

I am so grateful for your message, and thank you very much!

I write more back to you very soon, but what is bothering me a lot 

is always the fact of these new symptoms/Side Effects of Lexapro

 

the severe insomnia, I can´t sleep anymore.

I am awake, when I wrote „woke up“ that means actually I was already awake!

the severe constipation bothers me a lot, didn´t have it anymore since I stopped,  after withdrawal last year over a year ago. 

the urgent need to urinate every night, but that doesn´t wake me up, because I am already awake

 

Every day I hesitate to take it, I feel a strong inner resistance against taking it, and always delay taking it.

Should I continue reinstating? And will I ever get a feeling of well- being back?  Will I ever feel normal and ok? I am asking myself every day. 

Take care and stay in touch! Greetings from Caesar

 

[Catina7]

Sending you much love and thoughts of peace and healing @Caesar65.  Keep fighting with everything you have.  We're all rooting for you....you're never alone!  

[Caesar65]

15 hours ago, LostInCanada said:

Caesar65 I am so sorry you are dealing with this. First I have to ask, does your doctor have the authority to have you put in a clinic? If so be careful what you tell him. If it was me, I would let him think you increased but of course would follow the direction here. I also saw in your thread “teatime”. I do not know if this is literal but caffeine whether tea, coffee or chocolate is not good for your CNS. Neither is alcohol, nicotine, CBD or many supplements. Are you taking any of these things? Do you take magnesium biglycinate or fish oil as recommended?  

The doctor has absolutely no authority about me, but because he seems not to be convinced of a longtime withdrawal syndrome, and is questioning the effects of small doses, he suggested to increase up to at least 1 mg. Because of my despair its like a little manipulative treatment.  But these small doses have a severe effect, there is no doubt about it.
Since reinstating I have this severe insomnia, like I never ever had like this worse before. And this constant constipation and several times urinating at night also occured since reinstating. And nothing helps me to sleep! 
And I don’t smoke, no alcohol, and the only supplements I take since a while is this fish oil and magnesium. 

 

 

 

 

 

[Caesar65]

On 4/22/2023 at 3:45 AM, Caesar65 said:

You take 1mg Lexapro between 8 a.m. and 12:30 p.m.? That's too great a span of time. The inconsistency may cause some of your symptoms. Please take Lexapro at the same time each day.

 

21th April 23 
0730 a.m. "woke up" very exhausted, full of grief, numbness, weakness,  (whenever I wrote woke up means, that I am already always awake, can´t sleep at all!) brain fog, 

1030 a.m. Lexapro 1 mg anxiety, heart palpitations, totally numbness, debilitated, 

1430 p. m. lunch still strong anxiety, still heart palpitations, brain fog 

the following symptoms permanently lasting all day long every single day: 

weakness, numbness, drowsiness, feeling unreality, state of confusion, no concentration, great forgetfulness; kognitive disorder; debilitated; joylessness; brain fog

1800 p.m. teatime  Omega Capsule, Magnesium, still heart palpitations; 

2000 p.m. dinner heart palpitations and anxiety better, but the other symptoms remain, 

2300 p.m. new from pharmacy: Doxylaminsuccinate (:Hoggar Night ) 

0100 a.m. going to bed this time  feeling tired but can´t sleep at all/several times WC, 

0700 a.m. Being awake all night, feeling exhausted, weakness 

 

 

22nd April 23

0930 a.m. „woke up“ very exhausted, drowsiness, weakness, didn’t sleep at all! brain fog, 
1030 a.m. Lexapro 1 mg strong  anxiety, heart palpitations, debilitated, confusion, no clear thinking. Laying down again but no sleep. Magnesium; restlessness, brain fog, feeling disabled
1300 p.m. breakfast anxiety, weakness, heart palpitations, confusion, drowsiness, very depressed, strange feelings, 

1700 p.m. teatime Omega Capsule, all symptoms remain, still heart palpitations, no clear thinking, confusion, restlessness, brain fog, 

2000 p.m. dinner heart palpitations lower, all other symptoms remain, drowsiness, no concentration, 

0100 a.m.  Doxylaminsuccinat ( Hoggar Night) for sleep but no sleep, 

not tired, 

0300 a.m. still not tired but going to bed, no sleep/ several times WC 

0730 a.m. still awake, no sleep, all symptoms, feeling debilitated, totally and extremely exhausted , absolutely unbearable 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[LostInCanada]

@Caesar65 the medication you take at night is not herbal. It is a strong antihistamine that affects the CNS. This is what I found: 

 

What are the negative effects of doxylamine succinate?

 

 

Drowsiness, dizziness, headache, constipation, stomach upset, blurred vision, decreased coordination, or dry mouth/nose/throat may occur. If any of these effects last or get worse, contact your doctor or pharmacist promptly.

[LostInCanada]

@Caesar65 this is a strong antihistamine that affects the CNS. It can also cause dependency. I would consider stopping it especially because of constipation and the other side effects.