Caesar65: Escitalopram withdrawal within only 5 weeks after taking it for 18 years/unbearable symptoms since 1 year after withdrawal/advice urgently needed!

[Caesar65]

30th April 23:

0900 a.m. „woke up“ totally exhausted, but didn’t sleep, weakness, 

1000 a.m. Lexapro 0,5 mg, feeling debilitated, no clear thinking, weakness

1100  a.m. heavy heart beating, no clear thinking, drowsiness, confused, restlessness, heart palpitations; 

0200 p.m. lunch strong anxiety, no concentration, strong heart beating, weakness, extremely restlessness, confusion, with inability to make decisions! 

1830 p.m. teatime Omega Capsules, strong heart beating, 

0730 p.m. dinner, no concentration, restlessness, strong anxiety, 

0800 p.m. inability to make decisions, restlessness, magnesium 

1100 p.m. heavy heart beating with palpitations and extreme anxiety /  

1200 p.m. tea for sleep

0300 p.m. going to bed / no sleep all night /  3 times WC

0330 p.m. still awake, totally exhausted 

0400 p.m. still awake/ totally desperate, aphatic

0630 p.m. still no sleep 
 

[Caesar65]

On 4/21/2023 at 7:16 PM, SertralineIssues29 said:

Hey after reading through a bit I'm wondering from what I've seen if maybe your having adverse reactions now

 

I'm no expert and I'm sure a mod would be better at telling but if your having additional symptoms not there before reinstatement then it might be wise to say it's not good for you

I think so, too. And I like to say thank you for your message 👍

Wishing you the best and Stay in Touch! 

 

[Caesar65]

On 4/18/2023 at 2:52 AM, Tulip52 said:

I’m hesitant to comment because I’m not a professional but have you tried upping your potassium and sodium?

 

The adrenal cocktail does calm my cortisol spikes a little.

 

4 oz orange juice

1/4 tsp Celtic sea salt or Himalayan pink salt

1/4 tsp cream of tartar

 

take on empty stomach and no food  for an hour.  
 

I am sending you a big hug and lifting you in prayer.  ❤️ 

Thank you, I am sending you hugs and prayers, too🙏 🌹Stay in Touch! 

[Caesar65]

On 4/23/2023 at 3:56 PM, Catina7 said:

Sending you much love and thoughts of peace and healing @Caesar65.  Keep fighting with everything you have.  We're all rooting for you....you're never alone!  

Thank you so much, Catina, I am also sending you my best healing thoughts, and yes, we all have to stick together in this Community, we need each other.

I feel deeply touched by your words, thank you! 🌹 🌹 

[manymoretodays]

Adverse reactions should lessen on a this lower dose.

So stay with it.

Notes look good at the end of April.

Just add in dose on your Omega 3's, the name of the product.

Same with the type of magnesium you take and dose.

Then get May 1 and May 2 posted.

 

Thanks Caesar.

 

Insomniacs come on over here and tell Caesar how to cope with that, and hang on.

 

I'll I can add to what has already been linked to you, is try and just lay in bed pretending to sleep, in the quiet and dark. 

It looks like you may be getting to bed later too.  Try try for a earlier hour than 3a.m. or midnight. 

[Caesar65]

On 4/23/2023 at 6:19 PM, LostInCanada said:

Well taking this drug won't help any of those things. Thankfully you can just stop it without withdrawal too. Try the lavender. I only sleep 90 minutes at a time but I try not to stress about it and just try to meditate on good, relax and pray at that time. I figure at least that is better worrying. Acceptance is powerful. 👍

Yes, I love LAVENDER, but until now it seems that this wonderful plant, doesn’t bring me sleep, either. You have the power that that I lost, the power of thinking in a positive way. 

[AmitV]

56 minutes ago, Caesar65 said:

Yes, I love LAVENDER, but until now it seems that this wonderful plant, doesn’t bring me sleep, either. You have the power that that I lost, the power of thinking in a positive way. 

 

There are 2 other super low risk options.

we have to understand 24/7 insomnia does not promote brain healing at all, especially at C65’s age. So I’m suggesting these options as an alternative:

 

1) https://www.vastdiversity.com/huberman-sleep-cocktail-magnesium-threonate-apigenin-theonine/

 

for reference apigenin is high concentration of chamomile

 

2) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4027305/

 

while this an old school tricyclic antidepressant. The dosage is incredibly low. Lower than the reinstatement dose of an SSRI. It has lots of evidence for insomnia and works immediately. 
The safety profile of these doses is virtually side effect free. For references doses go high as 200mg. So before anyone disagrees with me, please understand the rationale of dosing and compare with 0.5mg vs 20mg SSRI and 1.5mg vs 200mg TCA, and not just list of side effects from the Internet. 
 

for someone with insomnia a cocktail of lavender, passionflower, melatonin, lemon balm, magnesium, etc etc. all together still doesn’t work. Insomnia doesn’t respond to calming agents. C65 has chronic insomnia, not just poor sleep quality or broken sleep. 

[Caesar65]

22 minutes ago, AmitV said:

for someone with insomnia a cocktail of lavender, passionflower, melatonin, lemon balm, magnesium, etc etc. all together still doesn’t work. Insomnia doesn’t respond to calming agents. C65 has chronic insomnia, not just poor sleep quality or broken sleep. 

Thank you, my dear Amit! 🙏🌹 But this product is not listed at Amazon, and probably not available in Germany. Until now, none of these herbal products help. 
I drink sleep tea, but no effects. And in my age, it’s really very hard to bear. 

[AmitV]

23 minutes ago, Caesar65 said:

Thank you, my dear Amit! 🙏🌹 But this product is not listed at Amazon, and probably not available in Germany. Until now, none of these herbal products help. 
I drink sleep tea, but no effects. And in my age, it’s really very hard to bear. 

i know c65. Get something from your doctor that works for insomnia. At your age it’s not possible to heal your brain without sleep. Also at your age it doesn’t matter if you have to take insomnia medication for a longer time. I’m very very worried about you, I appreciate that everyone has provided options and recommendations but your overall health will decline badly and other health conditions will emerge if your sleep isn’t fixed.

 

I only recommend supplement and small dosage options, because SA doesn’t like when someone recommends anything else other than natural supplements,

[Caesar65]

22 hours ago, manymoretodays said:

Adverse reactions should lessen on a this lower dose.

So stay with it.

Notes look good at the end of April.

Just add in dose on your Omega 3's, the name of the product.

Same with the type of magnesium you take and dose.

Then get May 1 and May 2 posted

I thank you,🌹 and wanted to write so much more, especially your earlier messages from before, of last week, but I feel blocked from inside, whatever I want to do, is very strenuous, especially mental activities, and I like to do a lot, I want to be much more active, but I barely can do anything, because I feel blocked and frozen from the inside, hard to describe. But it disables me completely. I feel not myself, separated from the world.
And the last days things got very worse, with the 0,25 mg, I hope it will get better. 
And I pray to achieve sleep. And I am not just laying around, I try to do a lot. 

And what I like to know, there are withdrawal symptoms which are lasting all day long,  like the numbness in my head, the weakness, and are mostly always the same, and I can’t write them all in the line of the diary. Can this be written on the top, instead of mentioning repeatedly for every hour? 



 

[manymoretodays]

That will be okay Caesar65.

Get the notes done though.

And I'm really sorry it is so very rough.

I'm sure the insomnia does not help.

And @AmitV can you hold off on recommends of supplements, herbs, or other drugs right now please.  And honest, my own fault as I said:

23 hours ago, manymoretodays said:

Insomniacs come on over here and tell Caesar how to cope with that, and hang on.

Yet, did not specify.......non-drug/supplement coping only

 

If you have used some of what you recommend and it's been helpful, then that might best go on your own thread.  I really want, if at all possible to get to the end of 7 days, with the 0.25 mg dose of Lexapro now, without the confusion of additions.  Or we won't have a clear picture.

Maybe those suggests of yours, WILL be something Caesar65......eventually.......takes to his doctor.  I don't know.  Or maybe you are a doctor......or just researching frantically out of a good heart and wanting to help.....so badly.  I know I have been there.

 

Rule of 5 KI's

And I know, reading C65's accounts, there has been only one or two instances where there has been some calm.  Help Caesar find calm though.

And from this post, from this topic:

Read this first

What will get you warned or banned

Also updated

- Drug shopping or recommending drugs
This is a site for going off drugs. It is not a site for finding out what drug to take next, comparing drug cocktails, or recommending what drug to add. This could be dangerous. People could be hurt by your advice.
 
(We do not know of any drugs or drug combination that will fix withdrawal syndrome. Reinstatement of the original drug, often at a low dose, sometimes helps and sometimes does not.)

 

If you can come up with just comfort and support and encouragement for Caesar65, much appreciated.  I know you are fairly new and may not have read the Read This First forum, and rules, and expectations of all of us, members included.  Please don't take this the wrong way.

 

And okay back to Caesar65,  again, yes you should post the dailies.  Okay to put symptoms at the top.  Then in the notes themselves, you can rate-----like from 1 to 10, 10 being the worst, after the times.  I hope that helps.

 

Let's see what you have managed to do too.

 

Hang on.  I trust if it just is too, too intense.....or if SI gets overwhelming..... or there is something you just don't feel you can manage anymore.......you will seek help on the ground, and in your area.  Will you do that if need be? 

 

That's all I've got today for you.  Best.  In my prayers.  Really look for anything that could be improvement.  That you are grateful for.

 

L, P, H, and G,

mmt

[Altostrata]

13 hours ago, Caesar65 said:

And what I like to know, there are withdrawal symptoms which are lasting all day long,  like the numbness in my head, the weakness, and are mostly always the same, and I can’t write them all in the line of the diary. Can this be written on the top, instead of mentioning repeatedly for every hour? 

 

Let us know when a symptom is better or worse.

[Caesar65]

On 5/4/2023 at 1:44 AM, manymoretodays said:

And @AmitV can you hold off on recommends of supplements, herbs, or other drugs right now please.  And honest, my own fault as I said:

On 5/3/2023 at 1:52 AM, manymoretodays said:

Insomniacs come on over here and tell Caesar how to cope with that, and hang on.

Yet, did not specify.......non-drug/supplement coping only

 

If you have used some of what you recommend and it's been helpful, then that might best go on your own thread.  I really want, if at all possible to get to the end of 7 days, with the 0.25 mg dose of Lexapro now, without the confusion of additions.  Or we won't have a clear picture.

Maybe those suggests of yours, WILL be something Caesar65......eventually.......takes to his doctor.  I don't know.  Or maybe you are a doctor......or just researching frantically out of a good heart and wanting to help.....so badly.  I know I have been there.

My dear MMtodays! I feel so very grateful for your understanding, outstanding support and always for your advice, the way you are writing is so warm-heartedly, refreshingly and beautiful. I  feel so numb and empty in my head, it’s like I lost all my abilities, my previous skills. I want to write back immediately like I usually did, but I am really struggling with it, because of my symptoms. 
And my dear Friend Amit, he only wants to help, I am so deeply touched and thankful and : 

please don’t blame yourself for saying Insomniacs come over here! Shout it out loud! 
I am very very grateful for this! 🌹

But I blame myself a lot for not being patient enough, to stay on this 0,5 mg dose, until there will be relief. I should have pushed through perhaps for 4 - 6 weeks. 

I hope and wish that many people with this problem are writing to me, maybe this point should be visible in another special thread concerning Insomnia, too.
What do you think?
I am grateful for any advice and encouragement from this community, and I hope I will get much more helpful informations, which give me my sleep back. 
And I love to read all the messages, from everyone. 
And what I need to express, that I don’t want to be the one, who only complains, I am really trying to survive, but struggling very hard. And I know, others do the same, and I feel with them, like to hug each one of them. 
 

Until now I didn’t take any heavy drugs to fight this insomnia, and I have never taken Benzodiapines in my whole drug history. But there were several other drugs in the 90’s like Zoloft, Prozac, etc. before Escitalopram but not listed in my signature, because Gridley said, it’s not necessarily needed. Writing this few lines took me a very long time, can’t believe it. An I try to get my notes posted here, I promise. But need to write again, some are lost, also a point which is not me. 

With love, peace and healing wishes

Caesar
 

[Catina7]

Hello my dear @Caesar65...I'm thinking of you as always.

 

I don't know if this tip might help you or not, but I was reading about the many benefits of Pink Himalayan Salt because it contains 84 different trace minerals.  I've heard that if you take 1/4 teaspoon before bed it can help you to sleep.  Also, if you bathe in it your body can absorb all those minerals.  Here is an article about all the benefits of it; I hope it helps you!

 

https://thealternativedaily.com/7-day-himalayan-salt-challenge-for-better-sleep-and-digestion/

 

P.S.  Mods, I hope it's okay to post this advice.  If not, please let me know!

[manymoretodays]

15 hours ago, Caesar65 said:

But I blame myself a lot for not being patient enough, to stay on this 0,5 mg dose, until there will be relief. I should have pushed through perhaps for 4 - 6 weeks. 

 

We need those notes Caesar.  Is that a typo?  Hoping you are now on 0.25 mg Lexapro.  I think when you were able to do a note, on April 30th, was day 1, of a reduced dose to 0.25 mg.

Try and put something together as to what you have done with the Lexapro since then.  Full notes.  If completely unable to....then dates since April 30th, and what you have taken of Lexapro or if none taken, and if anything new added.

 

Thanks Caesar65.  And that's okay, on how you did your signature.

Oh.....I sure hope to hear of some improvement.

 

 

[Caesar65]

Additional new symptoms occured since 1 mg reinstating and  continued also with going back to 0,5 mg 

 

Adverse Reaction

some of them I remember as side effects while being on longtime use of Lexapro/  

No sleep anymore ! TOTAL INSOMNIA ! Very massively!

severe Constipation ! 

Many times urinating every night ! It occured with reinstating

Feeling very exhausted but fully awake

numbness in Foot soles and toes

small red like needle points visible on my legs

swollen legs, 

dizziness; 

strong muscle cramps 

Itchiness on the coccyx on the back

restlessness; difficulties in concentration 

myclonic jerks occured again since reinstating

totally blockage from my intention to do anything what I need to do, can´t start with it! 

heavily limited clear thinking; it´s like my brain is empty! 

strong forgetfulness 

Feeling like  inner shaking 

 

THIS POINT DEVELOPED VERY WORSE: 

Very great difficulties to start doing anything, or to decide anything it’s like being blocked inside and this developed very worse; it scares me a lot it feels like I am blocked to react normal. What is this? I sit here for hours and can´t start, what I need and want to do!!! Therefore I feel like am constantly under pressure, even with just very simple things and waste a lot time. 

 

Some of the "old Symptoms" which still exist : 

 confusion and no clear thinking,

great forgetfulness, weakness,  drowsiness, heavy hart beating, hart racing, palpitations, feeling exhausted but awake, my head is empty; emotional numbness; heavy heart beating; palpitations; strong Inner Torment; racing heart; impaired memory; strong anxiety; feeling exhausted; and feeling like pushed through and want to be active, but totally blocked from anything, 

feeling debilitated, brain fog; mentally ablities seem not to function normal, are limited; joylessness; feeling totally overwhelmed; 

 

Again I like to say, that I don’t want to be someone who always complains all the time. But I really need improvements very soon. 

[Caesar65]

21 hours ago, manymoretodays said:

 

We need those notes Caesar.  Is that a typo?  Hoping you are now on 0.25 mg Lexapro.  I think when you were able to do a note, on April 30th, was day 1, of a reduced dose to 0.25 mg.

Try and put something together as to what you have done with the Lexapro since then.  Full notes.  If completely unable to....then dates since April 30th, and what you have taken of Lexapro or if none taken, and if anything new added.

 

Thanks Caesar65.  And that's okay, on how you did your signature.

Oh.....I sure hope to hear of some improvement.

 

 

List follows, everything takes me endless time to, I am sorry.

I am on 0,25 mg since 01st of May, since then the new developments of symptoms remain permanently, the terrible Insomnia, constipation, and many times urinating nightly, so with same listed I have still have since withdrawal.

My diary will follow, ok? 
 

[Caesar65]

Except the Insomnia, a very worse and unbearable symptom is being blocked from taking any actions, and making decisions, its like being frozen or hindered, hard to describe, this has the power over me and is restricting me very massively.

 

And while being fully awake, it’s often a feeling like being stimulated, but from what? 

May 1st 23: Dose reduced form 0,5 to 0,25 mg

0730 a.m. „woke up“ totally exhausted, but didn’t sleep, weakness, 

1000. a.m. Lexapro 0,25 mg, feeling debilitated, no clear thinking, weakness, 

1100  a.m. heavy heart beating, no clear thinking, drowsiness, confused, restlessness, heart palpitations; heavy heart beating, heart racing, strong anxiety 

0100 p.m. breakfast and cleaning, strong anxiety, no concentration, strong heart beating, heart palpitations, weakness, extremely restlessness, confusion, blocked from actions with inability to make decisions! Magnesiumcitrat 300 mg, 

0500 p.m. teatime Omega Capsules 1400 mg 

0730 p.m. dinner, no concentration, restlessness, strong anxiety, muscle cramps

0800 p.m. blocked and inability to make decisions, restlessness, Lasea Lavender capsule

0900 p.m. swimming, and warm pool 

1100 p.m.  heavy heart beating with palpitations and anxiety /  

1200 p.m. tea for sleep, hop/ lavender/ camomile

O230 p.m. going to bed, not tired / no sleep all night /  3 - 4 times WC

0330 p.m. still fully awake, heavy heart beating, 

0500 p.m. still awake/ totally desperate, 

0630 p.m. still no sleep, strong muscle cramps

 

 

 

 

[Caesar65]

confusion and no clear thinking, great forgetfulness, weakness,  drowsiness, heavy heart beating, hart racing, palpitations, feeling exhausted but awake and often like stimulated,  empty brain feeling, emotional numbness; heavy heart beating; palpitations; strong Inner Torment; racing heart; impaired memory; strong anxiety; being attacked of disability and totally blocked from taking actions of any kind;  feeling debilitated, brain fog; mentally abilities seem not to function normal, are limited; joylessness; feeling totally overwhelmed; strong inner torment, frequent urination, limited clear thinking, difficulties finding right words, great forgetfulness; 

 

May 2nd 23: 

0700 am:  „woke up“ totally exhausted, but didn’t sleep, weakness, 

0800. a.m. Lexapro 0,25 mg, feeling debilitated, no clear thinking, weakness, 

0900 a.m. heavy heart raceing, restlessness 

1000  a.m. no clear thinking, drowsiness, restlessness, heart palpitations; heavy heart beating, heart racing, strong anxiety 

0100 lunch weakness, restlessness, blocked from actions with inability to make decisions 

1600 heavy palpitations Magnesiumcitrat 300 mg

0500 p.m. teatime Omega Capsules 1400 mg 

0700 p.m. dinner, drowsiness, 

0800 p.m. attack of disability for taking actions, blocked, inability to make decisions, restlessness, Lasea Lavender capsule

0830 p.m.  Fitness exercise feeling weakness but physically better, 

1000p.m.  heavy heart beating with palpitations and anxiety /  exhausted 

1100  p.m. tea for sleep, hop/ lavender/ camomile

0030  p.m. going to bed, not tired / no sleep all night /frequent urination 

0200p.m. still fully awake,  exhausted 

0500 p.m. still awake/ totally desperate, 

0630 p.m. still no sleep, totally exhausted 

 

 

 

[Caesar65]

May 3rd 23

1.  

[Catina7]

@Caesar65 I am so sorry you are suffering so much.  Have you considered seeking out an acupuncturist that can help you?  I know you need relief desperately.  Sometimes they can really help with the anxiety and insomnia.  It may be worth a try.  Keep enduring the best you can.  Also, have you tried EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique) Tapping on yourself?  Sometimes this can bring us relief.  It's kind of like emotional acupuncture on ourselves.  I highly recommend it as I feel it might help you.  Also, work on activating your Vagus Nerve.  There are lots of ways to do this.  Those are the best things that I can think of right now.  Please continue to try different non-drug therapies that can help ease some of your symptoms.  Thinking of you as always...

[Sveta81]

Dear Caesar,

 

So sorry to read your tough journey. I’m from the Netherlands, and unfortunately I recognize how you have hit a wall with doctors and have not found support for your withdrawal symptoms. I feel the situation is not a lot better in the Netherlands, as psychiatrists will try to put you on other drugs. GP’s are not aware of side effects very well and are not able to support with withdrawal symptoms. It feels lonely. I’m tapering Lexapro as well. I have found support in Ayurveda for my new (hopefully soon to be drugfree) lifestyle and the holistic approach of yoga, meditation and breathwork. This has hugely improved my sleep as well. My thoughts are with you and I hope you will find relief. 
 

Sveta

[Caesar65]

 

This got very worse also and is with me 24 hrs a day.

There are permanent attacks of inability to act, they are arising always when I want to to do something and this is permanently noticeable. I feel  great difficulty in doing anything, or deciding anything, it's like an internal blockade to start doing anything, and that has developed massively and makes me totally disable to act and start any activities. Very hard to explain, but it is restricting me much more than ever before. And it is combined with strong anxiety and I feel completely paralysed. Then I am staring at the wall and time is running for hours, and nothing gets done, it’s everywhere wherever I go, in a supermarket, and also with same strenght at home. I feel extremely restlessness, and walk around, being like paralyzed and under pressure, but can’t take any action. It drives me crazy. What could that be? 
 

 

[Caesar65]

May 3rd 23: 

0730 a.m. „woke up“ totally exhausted, but didn’t sleep, weakness in arms,  muscle cramps, 

0830 a.m Lexapro 0,25 mg, feeling debilitated, no clear thinking, weakness, lightheadedness, 

1030 a.m.  heavy heart beating, no clear thinking, drowsiness, confused, restlessness, heart palpitations; heavy heart beating, heart racing, strong anxiety , magnesium citrat 300 mg  

0100 p.m. lunch,  strong anxiety, no concentration, strong heart beating, heart palpitations, weakness, extremely restlessness, confusion, attack like being blocked  from inside of taking  action, inability to act being paralyzed inside; 

0500 p.m. teatime 

0730 p.m. dinner, lightheadedness,  

0800 p.m. blocked and inability to make decisions, restlessness, Lasea Lavender capsule

0900 p.m. swimming, and warm pool 

1100 p.m.  heavy heart beating with palpitations and anxiety /  

1200 p.m. tea for sleep, hop/ lavender/ camomile

O030 p.m. going to bed, not tired / no sleep all night / 5 times WC at night 

0330 p.m. still fully awake, heavy heart beating, like being stimulated

0500 p.m. still awake/ totally desperate, muscle twitching, 

0630 p.m. still no sleep, strong muscle cramps

 

 

[Caesar65]

On 5/6/2023 at 4:41 PM, Caesar65 said:

and put something together as to what you have done with the Lexapro since then.  Full notes.  If completely unable to....then dates since April 30th, and what you have taken of Lexapro or if none taken, and if anything new added.

I have taken 0,25 mg daily until today May 7th, and new is only the lavender product. And  I will continue with this dose also tomorrow, until ........? 

I have typed into my tablet, but again everything disappeared, its damaged, and because I am living with  this autonomic damage,  I was unable to create it again. My brain is empty, that´s how I feel.  I hope and pray, that this will get better very soon, it has to. Because I am very fond of reading. But now, reading a book is a heavy thing, it is so frustrating.  This brain fog and lightheadedness, difficulties in thinking, everything happens delayed only. Late at night it gets better, at daytime almost impossible. I could not even write an email today. 

But the notes will be forwarded soon, again. I am so sorry, for this. But this terrible Insomnia is not getting any better until now, not at all, so with the other symptoms listed, one point has become getting stronger than ever. 

Are you sailing? That is wonderful, I ´d like to join you. And today was mother´s day, RIP Mom´s. You are taking so much effort to help me, I hope I can do the same to you, if you ever need. Friends and Love and Understanding are rare. 

With hugs and healing wishes Caesar. 

 

 

 

[Altostrata]

On 3/13/2023 at 11:38 PM, Caesar65 said:

I feel that my sleep is getting worse since January 23, there are many nights when I am tired but sleepless, I wake up early but then I am totally unable to get up.

 

@Caesar65 the Lexapro reinstatement may not have caused the insomnia, it was already developing prior to the reinstatement attempt.

 

But if reinstatement isn't helping, there is no reason to keep doing it.

 

We cannot tell if lamotrigine might be of assistance.

[Altostrata]

On 5/3/2023 at 10:45 PM, AmitV said:

So I’m suggesting these options as an alternative:

 

1) https://www.vastdiversity.com/huberman-sleep-cocktail-magnesium-threonate-apigenin-theonine/

 

for reference apigenin is high concentration of chamomile

 

2) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4027305/

 

while this an old school tricyclic antidepressant.

 

We have no idea if either of these is appropriate for Caesar65.

[Caesar65]

9 hours ago, Altostrata said:

sar65 the Lexapro reinstatement may not have caused the insomnia, it was already developing prior to the reinstatement attempt.

Dear Alto, please let me tell you, that this   severe Insomnia has developed extremely worse and changed from a bad sleep pattern to a state of absolutely no sleep anymore, since I increased the dose from 0,5 to 1 mg.
This might  be the reason, and I deeply regret, that I increased the dose , I should have been much longer on 0,5 mg or less. 

I never ever had experienced this Insomnia that strong and long lasting before in my life! 
Since the whole month April I can’t sleep anymore. It is totally different from my sleep pattern the months before. In the months before, there were also many days without sleep, but not comparable with the insomnia now. Now I am always awake until next morning. 

And in case if I stop rapidly the 0,25 mg what would happen then?!  
The never ending nightmare of symptoms was unbearable and my despair  made me finally reinstating even after more than a year since  I stopped also to rapidly after 18 years of Lexapro, according to the advice of my doctor. 
And 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Altostrata]

Nobody likes withdrawal insomnia.

 

On 5/9/2023 at 3:20 AM, Caesar65 said:

And in case if I stop rapidly the 0,25 mg what would happen then?!  

 

If, as you say, taking Lexapro makes you worse, stopping 0.25mg Lexapro probably will have no effect or you will feel better. 

 

As ever, I cannot tell the future, @Caesar65 I wish you would stop asking me to do this.

[Catina7]

Oh my dear @Caesar65, we haven't heard anything from you lately.  I hope you haven't given up....  I'm so very sorry. 😪

[Catina7]

I saw you reacted to my last post!  So you're still here? 😃  Sorry, but I was thinking the worst.  That you are still here and fighting absolutely made my day!!!!!  ❤️

[Catina7]

How have you been doing @Caesar65?  

[manymoretodays]

Hi Caesar,

Anything to report since your last post on the 8th of May.

Did you stop your 0.25 mg dose of escitalopram?  If so when?

Make changes to it otherwise, on your own?

Go in to your doctor and begin a trial of something new medication-wise?

 

Have any improvements while making no changes to supplements or drugs since early May?

 

Please do update.  With where you are at today? 

 

19 days is a long time with no posts from you.

And thank you for your kindness......no, I can't think of anything you could do for me.  I get a lot of support and help on the ground now, when needed.......to just navigate through sometimes this whole living and drug free now life of mine.  It does get tough on occasion for me......often more emotionally or feeling a bit overwhelmed with all it takes to live a suburban life, as a responsible citizen.  Lol, something like that.  Home and grounds maintenance can floor me at times.  Proud to be a woman on my own, and managing as well as I do.....not as well as some, possibly worse than others at times........yet it all comes back to a nice even flow.

I don't sail......however, long ago windsurfed. 

 

Hope to see a post from you soon.  Sadly........I don't think reinstatement helped you much at all.  That you tried it was okay, and even a bit courageous.

 

Love, peace, healing, and growth,

mmt

(  I am hoping to go pretty quiet here soon, take a break.  Likely awhile until I don't scan while signed out though......so I'll see when you post and be back more active after a few months or so)

Wishing you well, and until then, that you are finding what you need to sustain and eventually improve a bit.

 

 

[LostInCanada]

@Caesar65 sending prayers and hugs

[LostInCanada]

@Caesar65 how have you been? Are you still trying reinstatement? Has anything gotten better? I hope you are getting some relief. Would love to hear from you.  Take care my friend.

[Catina7]

We're all thinking of you @Caesar65.  We'd love to hear an update as to how you're doing!