Tapertrauma: Prozac Tapering withdrawal symptons

[LotusRising]

3 hours ago, Tapertrauma said:

Should I put the Magnesium in my signature?

 

Yes, it would be helpful to add any supplements you're taking  

 

Magnesium oxide can cause digestive upset (diarrhea), and it's not as well absorbed as other forms. If you think it's helping, but is possibly connected to the diarrhea, you might want to do some research on other forms and switch to one less likely to cause stomach upset.

[Tapertrauma]

5 hours ago, LotusRising said:

 

Yes, it would be helpful to add any supplements you're taking  

 

Magnesium oxide can cause digestive upset (diarrhea), and it's not as well absorbed as other forms. If you think it's helping, but is possibly connected to the diarrhea, you might want to do some research on other forms and switch to one less likely to cause stomach upset.

Thank you. I'll try an alternative form of Magnesium and update my signature.

[Tapertrauma]

14th December
05.22 Dog woke me up to go out then couldn't get back to sleep for a long time
08.30 Alarm woke me. Still feel really tired
9.00 Finally get up
10.00 Take one of 2 a day magnesium tablets
10.30 Headache and nausea but have yoghurt and toast
12.00 Feel really strange. Horrid feeling
13.00 Took some blankets and dog good to the rescue centre where we hot our dog from. Managed the 20 minute drive each way.
14.00 Usual headache. Eat some soup
15.15 Feel really tired but strange feeling had passed
16.00 Walk the dog gor half an hour; clears head a bit
17.15 Headache back, feeling really sleepy
17.28 Feel really strange again; horrid.
19.00 At a bit of supper
21.05 Feel very peculiar and very achy, heavy legs
22.00 Took 1 calcium tablet, 4mg of Prozac in w ml liquid and 1 teaspoon Flax seed pil
22.30 Exhausted but unable to sleep. Feel out of it like I gave no control of my system. Feels horrible.

[Tapertrauma]

Hi Lovely People, 

 

I've started ruminating about all the Christmas activities we're committed to and the hours of work I have to do. It's making me feel exhausted just thinking about it. Would it do any good yo try and bank some extra sleep/rest beforehand whilst I have the chance or doesn't it work that way? I don't want to let my boss, friends and family down.

[Angus]

@Tapertrauma I read your recent posts and you should be so proud of yourself💕. You are persisting even when you are not feeling yourself! You are so strong.

I totally understand how overwhelming life expectations and events are…and now it’s magnified. Maybe prioritize the things that are most important to you and have some back up plans if things need to be adjusted. Give yourself a lot of grace and I think resting up before and during may be helpful as well. I don’t know if any of this is helpful… if it isn’t l, just disregard. Keep on taking one step at a time. You’ve got this💕.

Angus

 

[Tapertrauma]

3 minutes ago, Angus said:

@Tapertrauma I read your recent posts and you should be so proud of yourself💕.Angus, thank you so much for your kind words. I really don't know what I'd do without all you lovely people on this forum. Your support is immeasurable to me. We need to cherish ourselves at this festive time, you're so right. Hang on in there. We can do it!! Sending big big hugs xx

 

3 minutes ago, Angus said:

 

 

[Greatful]

@Tapertrauma  I love your choice on your name  "tapertrauma"  This whole thing is a nightmare and causes trauma😓

 

I want to share a meditation that I used sometimes at night when I have a hard time falling asleep ( I used it last night)  It's put on by Baylissa on YT

Evening Mediation     https://youtu.be/znfRnQA9sg8?si=WNsMF50ERq-7NgUf  

 

I think you should let your body tell you....If you are feeling really fatigued---rest.  I know it's hard to find a balance...When to push yourself and when to rest....From I read you are doing a fair amount of things on a daily basis.... I know there a days where I say that's it, I am going to lay low all day or at least until I feel like I can do something....Sometimes I do a little bit then rest, then do a little bit then back to resting.   I am slowly learning not to get down on myself because I can't do as much as I use to.....Maybe that's what self care and lself love is.  I need to learn that my self worth is not defined by how much I get done for the day, or how busy I am.....Remember our bodies and brain are working sooooo hard to find homeostasis...So we may not be physically active but inside there is a lot going on.....

 

Take a ride horse  for me out in beautiful nature around you.....Sound wonderful.

Practice self love and care🌞

 

[Tapertrauma]

2 minutes ago, Greatful said:

l love your choice on your name  "tapertrauma"  This whole thing is a nightmare and causes trauma😓

Hiya Greatful,

Thank you do much. I think your name is brilliant too. We do have so much to be "Greatful". 

 

You're so right about resting when we need to but I often find the balance difficult; and boy do I pay for it later.

 

I love your analogy that's there's a lot going on inside. I'll try and take on board we're healing on the inside; however bad we may feel.

 

Riding my pony (with my supportive friend) is awesome. My family, friends and animals keep me going.

 

I'll definitely check out the meditation. Thank you so much; your support means the world. Hang on in there.

 

Sending big hugs xx

[Poppy745]

8 hours ago, Tapertrauma said:

Hi Lovely People, 

 

I've started ruminating about all the Christmas activities we're committed to and the hours of work I have to do. It's making me feel exhausted just thinking about it. Would it do any good yo try and bank some extra sleep/rest beforehand whilst I have the chance or doesn't it work that way? I don't want to let my boss, friends and family down.

Hi @Tapertrauma It sounds like you are doing the very best that you can. That is all anyone can do. Sending you peace TT. 💜

[Tapertrauma]

1 hour ago, Poppy745 said:

Hi Poppy, How lovely to hear from you as always. 

Doing our best is all we can do. Hope you're doing OK at the moment. Sending lots of hugs.

[Poppy745]

3 hours ago, Tapertrauma said:

Hi Poppy, How lovely to hear from you as always. 

Doing our best is all we can do. Hope you're doing OK at the moment. Sending lots of hugs.

💛

[Tapertrauma]

15th December
05.00 Husband woke me snoring but got back to sleep OK
08.30 Alarm woke me. Headache and nausea
10.00-11.30 Rode pony - actually felt not too bad
12.00 -15.00 Made dough and wrapped presents. Nausea and headache and achy legs but coping; just. Feel a bit out of it!!
16.00 Feel slightly better
18.00 Ate some tea; feel woozy and lightheaded
19.00 Anxious for the first time. Have just realised. Terrible headache.
20.00 Actually felt OK and a bit positive!!!
21.30 Took 4mg Prozac and one teaspoon flaxseed oil
22.00 Have headache but anxiety better than earlier.
Felt a little better overall today!!!

[Tapertrauma]

16th December
03.15 Dog woke me up, feel anxious and very sick
07.30 Alarm woke me up. Really nauseas and headache
8.30-12.30 Went to a dressage competition with a friend; felt nauseas and quite out of it, but managed, just.
13.00 Rode own pony; still feel out of it but managed
14.00 Ate a bit of cold pizza but only because so hungry. Still nauseas
15.00 Still feel nauseas and out of it; headache joined in now but feeling a bit happier in myself
16.45 Very very tired now; still nauseas and a bit out of it
17.00 First real anxiety of the day
18.00 Try to relax with a hot bath. Getting ready to go out to neighbours for dinner.
19.00 -22.00 Had dinner with husband and neighbours felt remarkably ok and very very grateful for this little window.
22.30 Put ponies to bed still OK
22.45 Took 4mg Prozac in 1ml liquid. 1 magnesium tablet and 1 teaspoon of Flaxseed oil

[getofflex]

18 hours ago, Tapertrauma said:

Felt a little better overall today!!!

That's wonderful!  Would you say that overall, you are feeling at least a bit better than when you were on the 5 mg on Dec 3 - 9? 

[Tapertrauma]

16 minutes ago, getofflex said:

That's wonderful!  Would you say that overall, you are feeling at least a bit better than when you were on the 5 mg on Dec 3 - 9? 

 

Hi getofflex,

 

Thank you for asking.

 

Oh goodness yes; the 5mg was almost unbearable; back to 4mg was better, not great but better. Last night we wrnt to our neighbours for supper and I felt ok for about 3 hours; which was phenonomal. Tired and anxious today,  especially now. But was so thrilled eith feeling ok yesterday; so disappointed with today.

[Tapertrauma]

16th December
03.15 Dog woke me up, feel anxious and very sick
07.30 Alarm woke me up. Really nauseas and headache
8.30-12.30 Went to a dressage co17th December

04.25 Fog woke me up to go out. Had a normal conversation with my husband

9.15 Slarm off. Woke up. Feel exhausted; too much yesterday. Headache and nausea 

10.39 Finally got up as needed the loo

11.30 -13.00 Rode pony. Not too bad but terrible headache

14.00 Had some soup as hungry. Still have a headache and anxious now.

15.30 Watching TV, very anxious

15.40 Terrible headache added into the mix now 

18.00 Ate a bit of tea supper. Terrible headache still

20.15 Feel slightly less anxious

22.00 Feeling a bit better

22.35 Took 4mg of Prozac in 1ml.of liquid. 2 magnesium tablets and 1 teaspoon flaxseed oil.

23.00 Headache from hell back

mpetition with a friend; felt nauseas and quite out of it, but managed, just.
13.00 Rode own pony; still feel out of it but managed
14.00 Ate a bit of cold pizza but only because so hungry. Still nauseas
15.00 Still feel nauseas and out of it; headache joined in now but feeling a bit happier in myself
16.45 Very very tired now; still nauseas and a bit out of it
17.00 First real anxiety of the day
18.00 Try to relax with a hot bath. Getting ready to go out to neighbours for dinner.
19.00 -22.00 Had dinner with husband and neighbours felt remarkably ok and very very grateful for this little window.
22.30 Put ponies to bed still OK
22.45 Took 4mg Prozac in 1ml liquid. 1 magnesium tablet and 1 teaspoon of Flaxseed oil

[Tapertrauma]

17th December
04.25 Dog woke me up to go out. Had a normal conversation with my husband
9.15 Alarm off. Woke up. Feel exhausted; too much yesterday. Headache and nausea
10.39 Finally got up as needed the loo
11.30 -13.00 Rode pony. Not too bad but terrible headache
14.00 Had some soup as hungry. Still have a headache and anxious now.
15.30 Watching TV, very anxious
15.40 Terrible headache added into the mix now
18.00 Ate a bit of tea supper. Terrible headache still
20.15 Feel slightly less anxious
22.00 Feeling a bit better
22.35 Took 4mg of Prozac in 1ml.of liquid. 2 magnesium tablets and 1 teaspoon flaxseed oil.
23.00 Headache from hell back

[Tapertrauma]

Hi Everyone,

Happy New Year and may the year be full of healing for you,

I have had varying symptoms over the Christmas period. I have been on 4mg since June 2023  (except for a very brief period of 5mg a while ago) and I am now wondering if I should start tapering again. I take my Prozac in a liquid form (so currently it is 4mg in 1ml of Prozac liquid). Is there a table I can use to calculate  dilute the Prozac in water as I go alone. I am planning to try and taper 2% at a time - maybe fortnightly?

 

Thank you all, as ever

 

Best Regards

[Tapertrauma]

Hi Everyone,

Hopefully someone can offer me some reassurance.

I am tapering from Prozac (after practically cold turkeying from Venlafaxine over two years agp on my GP's advice). I am down to 3.6mg of Prozac in .9ml of liquid which I started on 11th January 2024. I had a brief period of awful WD symptoms but then felt relatively ok for a while. Then I got a stinking cold and sinasitus which lasted 3 weeks; during which I felt awful. The cold has gone at last, but the WD symptoms have returned with a vengence and at times are unbearable - every day is different  - chronic fatigue, debiltating headache, crippling anxiety, depersonalisation, desperate depression and hopelessness, GI issues and nausea and sometimes a combination of one or more of the symptoms. I'm getting to the end of my tether and can't see a way out.

 

Can someone reassure me this will pass. I need some help to cope at the moment. 

[Emonda]

Hi Tapertrauma,

I've just moved your new post back to your own thread. This is the place to post updates and ask questions.

 

The team of volunteers is very small. Someone will do their best to respond when you post here.

 

6 hours ago, Tapertrauma said:

I got a stinking cold and sinasitus which lasted 3 weeks

 

From personal experience, when I've been sick, my WD symptoms spike. Things return to normal for me with time and patience. 

 

When feeling rotten, it's best to pause your taper until you've felt stable for some weeks, if not longer.

 

I hope this helps.

 

Regards

[Tapertrauma]

I feel like I'm going backwards. I know this is common. 

It is 3 months since I reduced my Prozac dose by 10% and the symptoms are still coming thick and fast. I never know which one I'm going to get on any given day. One day it is chronic fatigue, another day could be the headache from hell (which I suspect is due to the rapid Venlafaxine withdrawal from Oct 2022); tinnitus, nausea and other GI issues; panic, anxiety, hopelessness, terror, depersonalisation is especially frightening; the feeling like I have had a bad dose of flu; aching limbs amongst other things.

 

I was lucky enough to have a one to one session with Mark Horowitz (that man should receive a Knighood) and he said whilst I was feeling so bad to do nothing and not to taper any further. But it is SOOO hard and I so want to get this medication out of my system.  I feel like I'm moaning all the time and my family and friends must be sick to the back teeth of me; I know I am. 

 

Just needed to vent a bit - today is a chronic fatigue day - it is 10.00am here in the UK - I have been asleep for 10 hours and feel like I've been up all night.

[Sonia009]

29 minutes ago, Tapertrauma said:

I feel like I'm going backwards. I know this is common. 

It is 3 months since I reduced my Prozac dose by 10% and the symptoms are still coming thick and fast. I never know which one I'm going to get on any given day. One day it is chronic fatigue, another day could be the headache from hell (which I suspect is due to the rapid Venlafaxine withdrawal from Oct 2022); tinnitus, nausea and other GI issues; panic, anxiety, hopelessness, terror, depersonalisation is especially frightening; the feeling like I have had a bad dose of flu; aching limbs amongst other things.

 

I was lucky enough to have a one to one session with Mark Horowitz (that man should receive a Knighood) and he said whilst I was feeling so bad to do nothing and not to taper any further. But it is SOOO hard and I so want to get this medication out of my system.  I feel like I'm moaning all the time and my family and friends must be sick to the back teeth of me; I know I am. 

 

Just needed to vent a bit - today is a chronic fatigue day - it is 10.00am here in the UK - I have been asleep for 10 hours and feel like I've been up all night.

@TapertraumaHi, I have similar symptoms to you, reinstated 0.5 mg Citalopram three months ago but symptoms just as bad. How do you contact Mark Horowitz If you don't mind me asking? Thanks.

[Tapertrauma]

3 hours ago, Sonia009 said:

@TapertraumaHi, I have similar symptoms to you, reinstated 0.5 mg Citalopram three months ago but symptoms just as bad. How do you contact Mark Horowitz If you don't mind me asking? Thanks.

Hiya - No I don't mind at all. I have tried to share the link but it won't let me - but if you google him then a contact form comes up for him and I filled it in and sent it. He does 50 minute sessions for about £200 if I recall. But I have to say it was worth every penny. Hope you feel better really soon; I feel for you, I really do.

[Sonia009]

28 minutes ago, Tapertrauma said:

Hiya - No I don't mind at all. I have tried to share the link but it won't let me - but if you google him then a contact form comes up for him and I filled it in and sent it. He does 50 minute sessions for about £200 if I recall. But I have to say it was worth every penny. Hope you feel better really soon; I feel for you, I really do.

@TapertraumaThanks so much, that's great. Hope you feel better soon too 

[Tapertrauma]

So,

I now have a copy of Deprescribing Guidelines. According to the tapering guidelines I should have tapered off of my Venlafaxine over a period of 20-40 months and not the few weeks I actually did, as advised by my  GP. That was October 2022. Could I still be suffering from the ultra rapid withdrawal of the Venlafaxine rather than the Prozac withdrawal (which is still ongoing). If it is the Venlafaxine, I suppose I'm stuck with it. Can someone reassure me it will get better eventually. The fatigue and headaches are debilitating and unbearable at the moment. I haven't tapered my Prozac for over 3 months.