annatino: I need help because I messed myself up

[annatino]

Does anyone have tinnitus constant hissing in the ears?

 

Also I get a metallic taste on my lip.

 

In January 2021 I had lip reconstruction surgery because 12 years ago I had some fillers injected  that made my bottom lip drop after few years.

The substance did not dissolved and I had to be on the table for two hours to get the stuff out and carful be stitched.

 

I am thinking if this surgery affected my nervous system because after this long time I still feel my lip tingling and when anxiety rises,

the lip feels like has been punched.

 

 

[annatino]

Is there any Sertraline tapper links I can follow?

 

I take the capsule form

with fine powder inside.

[annatino]

I just wanted to ask anyone in here about my case with Prozac.

 

Would had been better if I had never stoped Prozac and stayed on 20mg which seemed to work good for me? 
 

Will I ever get rid of these intrusive thoughts (they are bad only when I am under stress) without medication?

Starting  Zoloft was hell on earth for me the whole month of June 2022 and definitely I don’t want to continue with this medication so I am slowly taper it.

 

[Greatful]

@annatino  Welcome to SA.  Unfortunately that means you are hurting and looking for help.  These drugs are strong and do change our brains and bodies.

This might be bumpy for a little bit but you can do it.  I know how easy it is to panic and just run for the quickest fix, I did it myself.  Try  to stay as calm and focused as you can. When do you get your scale?  It will be helpful to get accurate dosing of your Zoloft. 

Get your dosing of the Ativan and Zoloft set up and then you can make your next plan. 

 

I want to reassure you that you are not alone.  Learn as much as you can about these drugs, learn coping skills,  trust that you can heal from this.  

Reach out and ask questions.  We are here for you🌞

 

 

[annatino]

4 hours ago, Greatful said:

Welcome to SA.  Unfortunately that means you are hurting and looking for help.  These drugs are strong and do change our brains and bodies.

This might be bumpy for a little bit but you can do it.  I know how easy it is to panic and just run for the quickest fix, I did it myself.  Try  to stay as calm and focused as you can. When do you get your scale?  It will be helpful to get accurate dosing of your Zoloft. 

Get your dosing of the Ativan and Zoloft set up and then you can make your next plan. 

 

I want to reassure you that you are not alone.  Learn as much as you can about these drugs, learn coping skills,  trust that you can heal from this.  

Reach out and ask questions.  We are here for you🌞

 

Thank you so much Grateful.

 

Yes I am hurt and I would love to get of these meds quicker but unfortunately doesn’t work that way.

I want to order the scale soon and with the Ativan I want to do water titration.

 

I used to take Ativan every few days and I was feeling rough after the second day maybe, probably because the inter-dose withdrawals.

 

Now I take 0.5mg split twice a day at the exact time.
 

I find that my ears are hissing from Ativan and I get some weird guilt feelings toward my son. 
 

I don’t know if I want to stay long daily on this medication.

 

I will probably wean myself off this one first and stay on Sertraline 25mg until I completely stop the Ativan and after that I will slowly decrease the antidepressant.

 

Any suggestions are really appreciated.

 

 

[Shep]

19 hours ago, annatino said:

Does anyone have tinnitus constant hissing in the ears?

 

 

Yes, this is extremely common during withdrawal. Please see:

 

Tinnitus: What does all that noise mean?

 

Does tinnitus keep you awake at night? If so, running a fan or using a white noise app or white noise machine at night can help. 

 

19 hours ago, annatino said:

Also I get a metallic taste on my lip.

 

 

Yes, taste changes can definitely be caused by withdrawal (and as side effects, too): 

 

Taste changes, tasteless food

 

 

Abnormal tastes are also listed in Glenmullen’s withdrawal symptom list.

 

19 hours ago, annatino said:

Is there any Sertraline tapper links I can follow?

 

I take the capsule form

with fine powder inside.

 

Please see:

 

Tips for tapering off sertraline (Zoloft)

 

Why taper by 10% of my dosage?

 

You may want to try the Brassmonkey Slide, which involves small weekly reductions, as opposed to one larger monthly reduction.

 

The Brassmonkey Slide Method of Micro-tapering

 

16 hours ago, annatino said:

I just wanted to ask anyone in here about my case with Prozac.

 

Would had been better if I had never stoped Prozac and stayed on 20mg which seemed to work good for me? 
 

Will I ever get rid of these intrusive thoughts (they are bad only when I am under stress) without medication?

 

The long-term outcome of SSRIs are not good. They cause bone loss, a chronification of sadness and anxiety, they can interfere with other medications you may need later in life, etc. 

 

Intrusive thoughts are not caused by a lack of serotonin. How do you know you would have intrusive thoughts at this point in your life without medication? If you look at the history, it tells a story of people who, before the antidepressant era, went through a rough patch in their lives and felt better after a few weeks or months. Please see:

 

History We Can’t Overlook Anymore: Details Before the Anti-Depressant Era

 

You may want to find guided meditations to help with intrusive thoughts. Here is an example:

 

Guided Meditation for Detachment From Over-Thinking (Anxiety / OCD / Depression) video (42 minutes)

 

There are thousands of these types of guided meditations available on YouTube. 

 

Worrying and obsessive thinking are coping mechanisms that can turn into a bad habit. Once it becomes habit, it can feel familiar and familiar can make us feel safe, even though this coping habit is not healthy. The goal is to find a replacement for this coping mechanism, such as learning mindfulness, and then replace the negative coping mechanism of intrusive thoughts with the positive coping mechanism of mindful thoughts. When you feel intrusive thoughts come on, you may want to ask yourself, what do I hear? See? Touch? Smell? Taste? By tapping into your current surroundings - the tangible things around you - you are less susceptible to the abstract ramblings of your thought-stream.

 

Over time - and yes, this does take time and practice - the habit of rumination and intrusive thinking fades out. 

 

And don't let your withdrawal symptoms fool you into thinking that your withdrawal symptoms are who and what you really are. These are just temporary. It does get better. 

[annatino]

On 5/9/2022 at 5:52 PM, ChessieCat said:

80%

So would have been better to start the lowest dose of AD and remain on it instead increasing to mega doses these incompetent psychiatrists do to people. “Oh! The more the better.”

I read somewhere that 5mg Prozac helps with many disorders. 
Now it makes sense.

[annatino]

Thank you so much Shep for taking time to respond to me.

 

I tapered myself after total one month on 25mg 1st week; 50mg 2nd week, 75mg 3rd week and 10mg 4th week to 35mg in two months.

 

In few days I want to get to one capsule of Sertraline fine powder which is 25mg and start my tapper with the Gemini scale.

I will take 10% each month.

I would like to know about SERT occupancy regarding Sertraline, knowing that this medication can go up to 200mg instead other antidepressants that will stop at 40mg like Paxil or Celexa where SERT occupancy is very important when you get to 1mg, it meets to continue with 10% monthly cut to 0.0mg.

 

I my case, when I will reach, let’s say 2,5mg would it me ok to stop to 0mg or will I have to continue same as the other antidepressants like Paxil, Celexa etc. 

 

 

 

[annatino]

4 hours ago, Shep said:

people who, before the antidepressant era, went through a rough patch in t

When I asked the psychiatrist what did people do before when there were no meds, instead of saying herbs or whatever; she said they suffered till the end or worst...they committed suicide.

Gosh! How could you tell this to a patient that is in distress already?

[ChessieCat]

7 hours ago, annatino said:

So would have been better to start the lowest dose of AD and remain on it instead increasing to mega doses these incompetent psychiatrists do to people.

 

It depends.  Sometimes a person will see their medical professional and complain that they feel like their drug isn't working any more; this is more likely to happen if the person has been taking that drug for a long time.  If a person finds that their AD stops giving the effects that they want and they gradually start feeling worse it might be because the drug has reached tolerance, technical term tachyphylaxis or common term poop out.  When this happens if the person takes more of the same drug then they may start to get the wanted effects happening again but gradually they will start to feel worse as the drug reaches tolerance again.  And if the dose is again increased then the same thing happens.

 

tolerance-or-poop-out-or-tachyphylaxis

 

However, if a person tells their doctor that their drug doesn't seem to be working any more (ie giving the effects that they want) the doctor might add a drug (if they are both serotonergic drugs then there is a risk of serotonin toxicity) or switch to a different drug.  This does not always work and can make things worse.  If switching drugs, you can get withdrawal from the first drug and/or immediate adverse effect/side effects from the new drug.  If this happens because there have been 2 variables it can be difficult to know what is causing any issues.

[annatino]

41 minutes ago, ChessieCat said:

the drug has reached tolerance, technical term tachyphylaxis or common term poop out. 

I didn’t know that AD’s could reaches tolerance.

I thought just benzodiazepines to that.

[ChessieCat]

9 minutes ago, annatino said:

I didn’t know that AD’s could reaches tolerance.

I thought just benzodiazepines to that.

 

They sure can.  Brassmonkey was taking Paxil and had to taper out of poop out.  And it happened to me after I had been taking citalopram for about 20 years.  In 2011/2012 I had several life stressors occur in a short period of time and it felt like the drug wasn't work at all.  Because I felt so bad on it, I decided to stop taking it (this was before I found SA).  I felt great for a few months, better than I had felt in a very long time.  But then I got very sick and was bedridden for 2.5 weeks, lost 8kgs because I couldn't eat.  If felt like the flu but I could tell it wasn't.  I was then told that this was proof that I needed to be on an AD for life (chemical imbalance which has only every been a theory and was debunked several decades ago; thankfully they have recently started publicising in the media that the chemical imbalance is NOT a fact) and ended up on Pristiq.  It wasn't until I found SA that I made the connection and realised that the citalopram had reached tolerance which is why I wasn't able to cope with the life stressors.

 

After a 6 years taper off 100mg Pristiq I have now been off successfully for 9 months. 

[annatino]

1 minute ago, annatino said:

1 hour ago, ChessieCat said:

the drug has reached tolerance, technical term tachyphylaxis or common term poop 

I was taking Prozac for 12 years for OCD Pure-O and I don’t think that this medication ever made me feel normal. 
The thoughts were still there, it was just easier to brush them off. 
I still had PMS 10 days before period feeling low.

 

When I reduced from 60mg to 40mg I didn’t feel withdrawal. Then after few years I reduced from 40mg to 20mg, I didn’t feel any withdrawals.

 

Even when I stoped 20mg CT I didn’t feel any withdrawals.

 

I started feel bad four months after I stoped it because major stress in my life.

 

I wonder why I didn’t get symptoms of withdrawals.

[annatino]

7 minutes ago, ChessieCat said:

I felt great for a few months, better than I had felt in a very long time.

That’s exact what happened to me after I CT the last capsule 20mg Prozac. 
Ever since it’s been one year now, I am surviving.

One year was hell back and forth. 
In the past months, I am better but still long way to recover, especially now with these new meds that I need to taper.

[annatino]

11 minutes ago, ChessieCat said:

After a 6 years taper off 100mg Pristiq I have now been off successfully for 9 months. 

How are you now?

Do you feel much better? 
 

[ChessieCat]

5 minutes ago, annatino said:

I started feel bad four months after I stoped it because major stress in my life.

 

I wonder why I didn’t get symptoms of withdrawals.

 

There is also such a thing as delayed withdrawal.

 

You were taking a high dose at 60mg and 40mg so the dose occupancy might have been at play here.  The reason for the delayed withdrawal may have been due to the very long half life of Prozac AND when the stress happened your system wasn't able to cope both the changes it was making from getting off Prozac and the stress itself.

 

Please note that I am not posting this with regards to detoxing but it is about how stress affects the body:

 

STRESS

 

Quote from the video:

 

any time that you have a stress response you're  going to decrease repair so basically you can  

defend yourself or you can repair stuff but you can't do both at the same time

 

This is a video about liver detox but the part that I would like to you to watch, and this is where the link begins, is the explanation about stress and the body:

 

Sten Ekberg:  #1 Absolute Best FATTY LIVER DETOX

[ChessieCat]

Just now, annatino said:

How are you now?

Do you feel much better? 
 

 

I have posted about my post 0 experience in my topic starting at this post:

 

chessiecat-so-im-not-the-only-one-pristiq-desvenlafaxine

 

[annatino]

3 minutes ago, ChessieCat said:

You were taking a high dose at 60mg and 40mg so the dose occupancy might have been at play here.

SERT occupancy makes sense now. 

[annatino]

6 minutes ago, ChessieCat said:

This is a video about liver detox but the part that I would like to you to watch, and this is where the link begins, is the explanation about stress and the body

Thanks.

I will watch it. 

[annatino]

20 minutes ago, ChessieCat said:

After a 6 years taper off 100mg Pristiq I have now been off successfully for 9 month

Congratulations! Wow! 6 years taper that is a long way to go and to have the patience.

 

I was on Sertraline for short period of time 3 months and came to 35mg from 100mg in two months.

 

I would like to know if I could go a bit faster till I reach 12.5 let’s say.

 

Where the SERT occupancy would fit at Sertraline dose? 
 

I already asked this question but nobody answered yet back.

 

Will I have to go from 1mg to 0.0mg? Doing this last step would take me 1 year.

 

[ChessieCat]

It seems like you are very keen to get off your drug as quickly as possible.

 

I think you need to change the way you think about getting off.  The idea is to get off with the least discomfort as possible and be able to live your life as normally as possible during, and after, that time.

 

I have seen members of SA try to go too quickly and it has ended up taking them longer than if they had done a nice steady taper.

 

It takes as little as 1 month for the brain to fully adapt to getting a drug.  Also the effect on the nervous system of taking various drugs/doses is cumulative.  Some members have chopped and changed drugs and doses with (what they say) no problems and then the next time they try to do the same thing it doesn't work and things get really bad.  You have already added Ativan back in which you probably did because you were experiencing withdrawal symptoms after reducing sertraline.

 

You made a 30% decrease when you reduced your sertraline from 50mg to 35mg in July 2022 (you don't state if it was at the beginning, middle or end of the month - please add this information to your drug signature; please also add the date that you started 35mg).

 

Instead of trying to hurry to make another reduction, think about the fact that you are now taking a lower dose.

 

Personally I think you should hold on 35mg sertraline for at least another 3 months before even considering making a reduction.  And when you do reduce again only reduce by no more then 10% of the current dose of 35mg.

 

PATIENCE and non drug coping skills are key to getting off successfully.

 

And the learning of patience as well as non drug techniques to cope helps once you are off the drug too and trying the cope with life in general.

 

It is important to listen to your body/symptoms and not reduce again until you are stable.

 

Non-drug techniques to cope

 

Dr Joseph Glenmullen's WD Symptoms Checklist

 

Stability

 

WDnormal

 

And Brassmonkey talks more about it here:

 

tao-of-the-brassmonkey

[ChessieCat]

26 minutes ago, annatino said:

Will I have to go from 1mg to 0.0mg? Doing this last step would take me 1 year.

 

The suggested final dose is generally around the 0.025mg dose.  I went lower (but was reducing weekly) because I was dealing with other issues at the same time but still wanted to get off.

 

When to end the taper and jump to zero?

[ChessieCat]

28 minutes ago, annatino said:

Doing this last step would take me 1 year.

 

Ask yourself this question:  Do you want to get off your drug successfully and possibly be able to stay off psychiatric drugs in the future?

 

Taking the time now to do it the best way possible now might make a huge difference to the rest of your life.

[ChessieCat]

When I arrived at SA I was hoping to be off my Pristiq in 2 years, when I turned 60 years old.  It ended up taking me 4 years longer for a total of 6 years.  But it was worth it.

[annatino]

2 hours ago, ChessieCat said:

It seems like you are very keen to get off your drug as quickly as possible.

Thank you ChessieCat.

 

The reason I wanted to get off this meds faster is because I was told to reinstate Ativan 0.5mg a day, which I was taking sparkly.
 

Now I can imagine going daily on Ativan and build tolerance until I am off Sertraline 1-2 years. 
 

I should go back on Ativan only when needed? But again I was told that I was having Ativan withdrawals.

 

I am really confused. I don’t want to mess myself up more.

 

I am feeling 80% better.

 

 

[annatino]

2 hours ago, ChessieCat said:

You made a 30% decrease when you reduced your sertraline from 50mg to 35mg in July 2022 (you don't state if it was at the beginning, middle or end of the month - please add this information to your drug signature; please also add the date that you start

I took 50mg up to two weeks ago. 
 

I am at around 35mg now without the scale. Just eyeball it.

 

Tomorrow I am ordering the Gem20 scale.

 

Will try another month on 35mg. 
 

What should I do about the Ativan? 
 

I am updating the signature. 
 

Many thanks.
 

 

[ChessieCat]

  

On 8/11/2022 at 10:01 PM, Shep said:

Please be careful of taking it at odd times of the day. Sticking to the same dosing schedule every day is extremely important. If you feel you need to take it more than twice a day, then divide your 0.5 mg daily dose into 3 or 4 doses and then stick to taking it at the same times every day. Consistency is very important. Please note the more you divide the dose, the lower the peak concentration, meaning that you may not get the same amount of relief. For example, you may feel the effects of the drug at .25 mg taken twice a day more than .125 mg taken four times a day. You'll have to decide how tolerable your symptoms are in between the doses. 

 

On 8/12/2022 at 1:39 AM, annatino said:

That’s what I am afraid of the tolerance because I don’t want to increase this dose.

I want to stay at 0.5mg a day until

I get off Zoloft.

 

I think you have started taking the Ativan every day on a regular basis now?

 

SA recommends tapering only one drug at a time and generally the sedating drug continued to be taken until after the taper of the activating drug has been competed.  See:

  

On 4/20/2011 at 11:52 AM, Altostrata said:

Taking multiple psych drugs? Which drug to taper first? (Link to more information)

If you're not having an adverse reaction from the other medications, taper the most activating drug first. This is usually an antidepressant or stimulant (ADHD drug).

 

[annatino]

10 hours ago, ChessieCat said:

 

I think you have started taking the Ativan every day on a regular basis now?

Yes I do.

Yesterday I took the whole 0.5mg pill

at 9am instead dividing it, an today in the morning at 9am I woke up with anxiety and took half of the pill.

Suppose to take the other half around 2pm.

 

 

[annatino]

Still having anxiety all day. 

I tapered from 50mg to 35mg two weeks ago and I am starting the 14th day to feel bad.

 

Should I go back to 50mg? 😭

 

I don’t know what to do.

 

Taking Ativan daily 0.5mg split twice a day is not helping me. 

 

***Update 

Two hours later since I took the second half 0.25mg Ativan, I am feeling better.

Still shocked of how quickly I can change in mood. Sadly.

 

At this point I really don’t know if it’s Ativan inter-dose withdrawal or is from Sertraline change 14 days ago and is catching up now.

 

 

[Shep]

16 hours ago, annatino said:

I took 50mg up to two weeks ago. 
 

I am at around 35mg now without the scale. Just eyeball it.

 

Tomorrow I am ordering the Gem20 scale.

 

Will try another month on 35mg. 
 

What should I do about the Ativan? 
 

I am updating the signature. 
 

Many thanks.

 

I understand the frustration regarding the benzo. Periodic dosing is problematic on many levels, but unless you're able to stop it without symptoms,  you're dependent. Please note that withdrawal from benzos and from SSRIs are almost identical in the types of symptoms. 

 

In a "Guardian" article, Dr. Peter Gøtzsche writes:

 

Quote

I began to realise the scale of the problem when I was persuaded seven years ago to become a tutor for a PhD thesis on whether history was repeating itself, by comparing benzodiazepines ("mother's little helper") with SSRIs. This research has established that people get as hooked on SSRIs as they did on benzodiazepines, and 37 of 42 withdrawal symptoms were the same for SSRIs as for benzodiazepines.

 

The full article is here:  Psychiatric drugs are doing us more harm than good

 

And here is the study in the PubMed database:

 

What is the difference between dependence and withdrawal reactions? A comparison of benzodiazepines and selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors.

 

 

6 hours ago, annatino said:

Yesterday I took the whole 0.5mg pill

at 9am instead dividing it, an today in the morning at 9am I woke up with anxiety and took half of the pill.

Suppose to take the other half around 2pm.

 

It's really important to be consistent with this drug and take it at the same times of the day and at the same dose. The non-drug coping skills can help you out in between doses. 

 

The fact that you feel like you "need" it is a sign of dependency. So this answers the question you asked, "What should I do about the Ativan?" 

 

Please take it at the same times of day every day and at the same dose. In time, your nervous system will settle down from all of the changes, but it's important that you stop making changes in order for that to happen. 

 

Questions:

 

• How do you feel before you take your sertraline? How do you feel 30 minutes later?
• How do you feel before you take Ativan? How do you feel 30 minutes later?

[annatino]

58 minutes ago, Shep said:

Please take it at the same times of day every day and at the same dose. In time, your nervous system will settle down from all of the changes, but it's important that you stop making changes in order for that to happen. 

Hi Shep,

 

Thank you for responding back.

 

I believe I am hooked on such a small dose 0.5mg. It’s making my tinnitus hiss worst and left ear sounds like popping popcorn sometimes.

I know it’s from Ativan.

 

I will take this at the same time but what worries me is building tolerance.

 

I don’t want to increase it at all. 
 

I am thinking to take it until I get to 25mg (one capsule) Sertraline and then staying on Sertraline for 6 months at this dose while I am out benzodiazepine.

 

Then slowly cutting down Sertraline in time up to two years.

 

I cannot think of me staying daily on benzodiazepine.

 

Both are hard to come off but with Ativan there is a risk of becoming tolerant. Although with Sertraline there is no way of increasing it, it will always decrease the dose.

 

And after those two are done to 0mg, I will still have one heck of a nasty drug,

15mg Mirtazepine wow!

 

What do you think? 

[Shep]

18 hours ago, annatino said:

Both are hard to come off but with Ativan there is a risk of becoming tolerant. Although with Sertraline there is no way of increasing it, it will always decrease the dose.

 

Yes, the risk is there for Ativan, but it's also there for sertraline. Please see:

 

Tachyphylaxis, Reaching Tolerance or as It's Lovingly Known “Poop-Out”

 

You'll have to weigh the risk of tolerance against the risk of developing withdrawal symptoms if you come off it too quickly or too soon. But that's true for both drugs. 

 

Because you're asking for such detailed advice from us, it will help us to have a drug and symptoms journal. We need to know your withdrawal symptoms within the context of when you take each of your drugs. 

 

 

Please start a daily drug and symptoms journal. We need the time(s) of day you take your drugs and supplements and the dose. Write down any symptoms that show up throughout the day. Also, please write down how many hours you sleep each night. This allows us to see your symptoms within the context of when you take your drugs and supplements.

 

More information is below, along with an example of what we need. 

 

On 9/27/2016 at 2:49 PM, Altostrata said:

In the course of discussion in your Introductions forum topic, you may be asked to keep notes on paper of your daily symptom pattern, including when you take your drugs, their dosages, and any symptoms. We ask this because there may be something we can do to reduce the symptoms.

 

What we need to see for every single day over several days is what symptoms you get before and after you take your drugs. If you're not taking any drugs and have withdrawal symptoms, we still need to see your symptom pattern throughout the day:

 

The time of day, dosage, and severity of symptoms are essential information. Include

 

- Time and dosage for all drugs taken throughout the day, psychiatric and non-psychiatric.

- Following each dose, note any symptoms. If you are having a reaction to the drug, it may take hours for a symptom to show up -- that's why we ask you to keep notes all day long.

- If you're not taking any drugs, your symptoms throughout the day.

- Your sleep pattern. Since so many drugs disturb sleep, if you find you're waking in the middle of the night, it could be from a drug you took earlier in the evening. If you're not taking any drugs, there may be ways you can improve your sleep.

And so forth. A diary, in chronological order, looking something like this:
 

Example:

DATE:

 

6 a.m. Woke with anxiety
8 a.m. Took 2.5mg Lexapro
10 a.m. Stomach is upset
10:30 a.m. Ate breakfast
11:35 a.m. Got a headache, lasted one hour
12:35 p.m. Ate lunch
4 p.m. Feel a bit better
5 p.m. Took 2.5mg Lexapro
6 p.m. Ate dinner
9:20 p.m. Headache
10:00 p.m. Took 50mg Seroquel
10:20 p.m. Feeling dizzy
10:30 p.m. Fell asleep
2:30 a.m. Woke, took 3mg Ambien (NOT "took 1/2 tablet Ambien")
2:45 a.m. Fell asleep
4:30 a.m. Woke but got back to sleep

 

[annatino]

17 hours ago, Shep said:

 

Because you're asking for such detailed advice from us, it will help us to have a drug and symptoms journal. We need to know your withdrawal symptoms within the context of when you take each of your drugs. 

 

Thank you Shep.

 

I will ad my first day bellow:

 

August 14

 

8:30 a.m. Woke up a bit anxious 

9 a.m. Took 0.25mg Ativan - did not have tinnitus after taking it.

11 a.m. Feeling better 

12 p.m. Took 35mg Sertraline

  1 p.m. -  Tinnitus started and is a bit stronger, left ear clicks sometimes but both are hissing but not too loud.

12 p.m. - 1 p.m. Reading other people’s stories about benzodiazepine withdrawal got me scared and had a bit of anxiety.

1:30 p.m. Feeling blunt. Feeling afraid what if I will have hard time tapering.

Trying to eat because I skipped breakfast.

2 pm - 200mg magnesium glycine 

3 pm - 0.25mg Ativan - feeling anxiety

4:30 pm - no anxiety 

10:20 pm - 15mg Mirtazepine for sleep

Had no anxiety, tinnitus is vey low, no intrusive thoughts, no any withdrawal symptoms since 4:30 pm

Edited August 15, 2022 by Shep
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[annatino]

On 8/13/2022 at 4:59 PM, Shep said:

How do you feel before you take your sertraline? How do you feel 30 minutes later?

I feel ok before and anxious after.

[annatino]

On 8/13/2022 at 4:59 PM, Shep said:

How do you feel before you take Ativan? How do you feel 30 minutes later?

I feel anxious before and about 40 min to an hour I feel good for the rest of the day. 
 

 

[annatino]

On 8/11/2022 at 4:34 PM, Greatful said:

When do you get your scale?  It will be helpful to get accurate dosing of your Zoloft. 

Get your dosing of the Ativan and Zoloft set up and then you can make your next plan. 

Thank you Grateful.

 

We ordered it yesterday from Amazon.

Soon I will stabilize on exact weight of the capsule.