Dahlia50 Posted March 15 Author Share Posted March 15 I have terrible WD. Did an MRI which came out blank. I'm in hospital again. Dont know if I can bear this, 5,5 months off. The waves mashing me. I can reinstate 1mg zoloft in hospital. I have to decide for myself, but isnt so stable in making decisions now. Afraid that it will worsen WD and the situation even more. But would need help to reduce some torture WD. Maybe it can't even help the injury when you hit hard. Afraid that my nervous system is so worn out that it won't tolerate a drug. Or if I survive this WD for years. No one can advise for sure, but would be greatful for your thoughts, support or just someone to talk to… 2008 Zoloft 50mg 2022 May - 62,5mg (doctor wanted to increase). Felt sick, went back to 50mg efter 2 weeks 2022 Oct - Reducing dose to 37,5mg (from 50mg). WD in few days, advised to go back to 50 - I then got adverse worse paradoxical effect 2022 Oct - Zoloft 50mg severe side effects/adverse reaction 2023 May 5th - Reducing dose to 25mg (directly from 50mg by Dr, WD). 2023 Aug 1st - Reducing dose to 12,5mg 2023 Oct 10th - Removed dose from 12mg to zero by Dr. Tried reinstate citalopram after 3 months didnt work bad reaction. In Terrible WD. Use melatonin 4mg. Lergigan 5mg. Omega 3, D-vitamin, magnesium glycinate, zink. Link to comment
Mentor Catina7 Posted March 15 Mentor Share Posted March 15 So sorry you're suffering so much. Unfortunately, there's no guarantee that reinstating at 5.5 months off would be beneficial. I'm not at liberty to say one way or another, the choice is yours. If you're able to, you may want to read through the topic about reinstatement. https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/topic/7562-about-reinstating-and-stabilizing-to-reduce-withdrawal-symptoms/ I know you think you're too far gone, but in time you WILL get better. There are many who have been through severe WD and have healed. Please keep hope alive! Sending you a big hug with warm healing thoughts.... Catina ❤️ 1 Disclaimer: This is not professional medical advice but is based on personal experience only. 1994 - 2017: Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Paxil, Wellbutrin, Zoloft, Seroquel, Buspar, Lorazepam, Xanax, Ambien 2005-present: Trazodone 50 mg 2017: Effexor XR 37.5 >> 75 mg 2020 (March): Began 10% monthly taper of Effexor XR (got down to 12 mg) 2021 (September): Completely crashed. Went back up to 37.5 mg but in doing so I kindled myself 2024: 1/1: 35.6 mg (-6 beads) | 2/1: 33.8 mg (-11 beads) | 3/1: 32.1 mg (-16 beads) | 4/1: (-18 beads) Reasons for starting psych meds: PMDD/Depression, Generalized Anxiety Disorder Other medications: Levothyroxine 75 mcg Supplements: Dr. Berg's Electrolyte Powder on occasion Link to comment
Mentor DaBro Posted March 16 Mentor Share Posted March 16 @Dahlia50, This is good advice from @Catina7 Good luck in your decision and believe that you will heal and your nervous system is not ‘worn out’ it’s a horrible and concerning time but you will heal and we are here to listen and support you. wishing you strength and inner peace. 2 50 mg Sertraline Nov 2016 to Dec 2016 100 mg Sertraline Jan - March 2017 50 mg Sertraline April - June 2017 25 mg Sertraline July 2017 - Sept 2018 12.5 mg Sertraline Oct 2018 0 mg Nov 1 2018 Link to comment
Jaffa Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 I am thinking of you every day @Dahlia50. 2003 Paxil - I can't remember the dose but I think it was 10mg experienced horrendous akathisia when starting for 3 weeks then okay 2004. slow reduction to 0 , withdrawal symptoms, so reinstated to 10mg - again horrendous Akathisia which lasted 5 weeks. 2005 - attempted to slowly taper off and again Terrible withdrawal so reinstated and endured akathisia until it settled. Psychiatrist changed me over to Zoloft so that I could have another baby. No adverse reaction with the switch except terrible diorreah 2006 tried once more to come off Zoloft carefully with terrible results. reinstated Zoloft and used 2.5 mg of zyprexa to help Akathisia- horrid episode lasted 3 months with some akathisia and severe depression which I’d never had before. Withdrawal from zyprexa ( depression) 2008 50 mg of Zoloft then after 6 months I tapered to 25 mg and decided to stay there . 2012 stress event and peri menopause acute anxiety which led to, updosing to 125 mg, tortuous symptoms(akathisia) then stabilized, back to 50 mg- 2014 - same again down to 25 with Akathisia on updosing and a hospital visit. 2019 - 2023 Zoloft tapering by 2 mg linear taper every 3 months started at 50 mg, got to 25 mg around January 2023. June 2023- health anxiety and what feels like withdrawal again. Insomnia, anxiety, blunted good feelings. 2023 June- Zyprexa taken twice, ativan 1 mg taken once, temazepan infrequent but 15- 18th of June used for 4 nights 2023 August - introduced 7.5 mg of mirtazapine for 12 days then 15mg of mirtazapine. Sleep now ok but daily life depression, anhedonia, agitation and a weird feeling of being sedate and anxious at the same time. Currently holding. My introduction thread: Jaffa: Possibly late onset withdrawal Link to comment
Dahlia50 Posted March 16 Author Share Posted March 16 Thank you kind @Jaffa 🙏 2008 Zoloft 50mg 2022 May - 62,5mg (doctor wanted to increase). Felt sick, went back to 50mg efter 2 weeks 2022 Oct - Reducing dose to 37,5mg (from 50mg). WD in few days, advised to go back to 50 - I then got adverse worse paradoxical effect 2022 Oct - Zoloft 50mg severe side effects/adverse reaction 2023 May 5th - Reducing dose to 25mg (directly from 50mg by Dr, WD). 2023 Aug 1st - Reducing dose to 12,5mg 2023 Oct 10th - Removed dose from 12mg to zero by Dr. Tried reinstate citalopram after 3 months didnt work bad reaction. In Terrible WD. Use melatonin 4mg. Lergigan 5mg. Omega 3, D-vitamin, magnesium glycinate, zink. Link to comment
Dahlia50 Posted March 16 Author Share Posted March 16 Haven't decided but thanks @DaBro and @Catina7. Still in hospital, they cant help much though. They know nothing about WD. 2008 Zoloft 50mg 2022 May - 62,5mg (doctor wanted to increase). Felt sick, went back to 50mg efter 2 weeks 2022 Oct - Reducing dose to 37,5mg (from 50mg). WD in few days, advised to go back to 50 - I then got adverse worse paradoxical effect 2022 Oct - Zoloft 50mg severe side effects/adverse reaction 2023 May 5th - Reducing dose to 25mg (directly from 50mg by Dr, WD). 2023 Aug 1st - Reducing dose to 12,5mg 2023 Oct 10th - Removed dose from 12mg to zero by Dr. Tried reinstate citalopram after 3 months didnt work bad reaction. In Terrible WD. Use melatonin 4mg. Lergigan 5mg. Omega 3, D-vitamin, magnesium glycinate, zink. Link to comment
Ninabird Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Keeping you in my thoughts @Dahlia50 Praying you get relief soon. 🌼🌸🌺🌻 PREVIOUS 2018 Ativan 1mg Oct-Jan (CT), 2019 Effexor 75mg, Klonopin .25mg, Trazadone 75mg, Bridge to Prozac (?dose), 2020 Taper off all, 2021 Zoloft (?dose), Jan-May (CT @ Hospital), Remeron (?dose) Trazadone 75mg, Propanolol (?dose), Klonopin .50mg, Buspar (?dose), 2021 Prozac (?dose), Trazadone 75mg, Klonopin 2 times a day, 2021 August fast taper Trazadone Prozac fast taper in August. August Lexapro 10mg 2022 January Lexapro to 25mg, February FT to 10mg Lexapro over 6 weeks, Klonopin .25mg 2 times a day, May Effexor 35mg, June bridge from Effexor to 30mg Cymbalta. Held on Lexapro until November. supplements 2023 Jan Probiotics stopped taking after two weeks ADR April 1k Iu Vitamin D W/ K stopped after a few days ADR. March 50mg Mag glycinate stopped after a week ADR January 2023 - added an additional .25 mg Klonopin (.25 mg three times a day) CURRENT 1/23-Present Klonopin .75mg divided into .25mg 3 times a day. 6:30am, 12:00pm, 6:30pm 1/23Present Lexapro .101 mgpw - 8.08 mgai 8:00am 1/23-Present Estradiol .50mg 8:00am 1/23-Present 30mg Cymbalta 12:30pm 6/23 to present Holding no changes 7/4 reduced Lexapro to 7.92mg 7/31 7.84mg 8/7 7.76mg 7/14 7.60mg 10/1 7.44mg 10/28 7.36mg 2/1 7.12mg 2/14 7.04mg 3/5/24 6.88mg 3/12 6.80mg Link to comment
Dahlia50 Posted March 16 Author Share Posted March 16 @Ninabird Thank You, it means a lot! 🙏 2008 Zoloft 50mg 2022 May - 62,5mg (doctor wanted to increase). Felt sick, went back to 50mg efter 2 weeks 2022 Oct - Reducing dose to 37,5mg (from 50mg). WD in few days, advised to go back to 50 - I then got adverse worse paradoxical effect 2022 Oct - Zoloft 50mg severe side effects/adverse reaction 2023 May 5th - Reducing dose to 25mg (directly from 50mg by Dr, WD). 2023 Aug 1st - Reducing dose to 12,5mg 2023 Oct 10th - Removed dose from 12mg to zero by Dr. Tried reinstate citalopram after 3 months didnt work bad reaction. In Terrible WD. Use melatonin 4mg. Lergigan 5mg. Omega 3, D-vitamin, magnesium glycinate, zink. Link to comment
Dahlia50 Posted March 16 Author Share Posted March 16 Thinking about my taper journey. I did a big reduction from 50 to 25mg (by Dr). Then to 12mg. There were terrible WD symptoms but I got through it. It was when I dropped from 12mg to zero that all hell broke loose. Wish I stayed on 12mg or went down to 6mg and stopped. At least I functioned and could have started work. What I'm in now is another dimension, didn't know protracted WD could be this horrible and painful. It's like the body and brain are in a free fall. Sometimes wonder if its impossible to stop SSRIs if you have taken them for 13 years, some people cannot stop completely. Maybe I was one of them. Stupid nasty drug. 1 2008 Zoloft 50mg 2022 May - 62,5mg (doctor wanted to increase). Felt sick, went back to 50mg efter 2 weeks 2022 Oct - Reducing dose to 37,5mg (from 50mg). WD in few days, advised to go back to 50 - I then got adverse worse paradoxical effect 2022 Oct - Zoloft 50mg severe side effects/adverse reaction 2023 May 5th - Reducing dose to 25mg (directly from 50mg by Dr, WD). 2023 Aug 1st - Reducing dose to 12,5mg 2023 Oct 10th - Removed dose from 12mg to zero by Dr. Tried reinstate citalopram after 3 months didnt work bad reaction. In Terrible WD. Use melatonin 4mg. Lergigan 5mg. Omega 3, D-vitamin, magnesium glycinate, zink. Link to comment
mariamisery Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Some people reinstate to taper longer. Did you ever think about doing that? I don't understand tapering since you are still putting the drug in your body and it is continually causing harm.I am hoping iI am almost at the end of this nightmare. 1 Maria George Started mirtazapine Dec. 20 2023 and stopped January 20,2024. Only 1 antidepressant Link to comment
Dahlia50 Posted March 16 Author Share Posted March 16 @mariamisery I probably missed the window for reinstate. And then WD delay got worse after a few months. I tried to reinstate but had a bad reaction. Still thinking about it but fear it will get worse. It is difficult. Now wish I reinstated in first few weeks. It is a nightmare. 2008 Zoloft 50mg 2022 May - 62,5mg (doctor wanted to increase). Felt sick, went back to 50mg efter 2 weeks 2022 Oct - Reducing dose to 37,5mg (from 50mg). WD in few days, advised to go back to 50 - I then got adverse worse paradoxical effect 2022 Oct - Zoloft 50mg severe side effects/adverse reaction 2023 May 5th - Reducing dose to 25mg (directly from 50mg by Dr, WD). 2023 Aug 1st - Reducing dose to 12,5mg 2023 Oct 10th - Removed dose from 12mg to zero by Dr. Tried reinstate citalopram after 3 months didnt work bad reaction. In Terrible WD. Use melatonin 4mg. Lergigan 5mg. Omega 3, D-vitamin, magnesium glycinate, zink. Link to comment
mariamisery Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Hope you get relief of some kind soon. Hopefully you are able to get some rest a nigjt. 1 Maria George Started mirtazapine Dec. 20 2023 and stopped January 20,2024. Only 1 antidepressant Link to comment
mariamisery Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 How are you coping. Do you just take the pain? I know earlier the man said to say positive things. That does not override the pain. I am trying to find ways to cope that works Maria George Started mirtazapine Dec. 20 2023 and stopped January 20,2024. Only 1 antidepressant Link to comment
Jaffa Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 @Dahlia50 How are you going? 8 hours ago, Dahlia50 said: Sometimes wonder if its impossible to stop SSRIs if you have taken them for 13 years, some people cannot stop completely. Your body and brain can heal. The problem is that it's a long road. The brain has to grow new target receptors and this is a slow process. I think you need to invite in the idea that the first 12 months will be very difficult. You have been on this drug for 13 years yes! I know a man who recently spoke of his healing journey and it was eighteen months till he got better. He had been on an ssri for just under a decade so I imagine that the timeline would be the same for you. I know living in this pain for that long seems unbearable but its not at the same level of intensity all the way along. I don't think Iv'e ever seen person who thought that they would heal from this injury. The state you are in is withdrawal normal and not a single positive thought seems possible. The good news is that whether you believe it or not - you HEAL anyway. Sending so much love and warm wishes your way. 2 2003 Paxil - I can't remember the dose but I think it was 10mg experienced horrendous akathisia when starting for 3 weeks then okay 2004. slow reduction to 0 , withdrawal symptoms, so reinstated to 10mg - again horrendous Akathisia which lasted 5 weeks. 2005 - attempted to slowly taper off and again Terrible withdrawal so reinstated and endured akathisia until it settled. Psychiatrist changed me over to Zoloft so that I could have another baby. No adverse reaction with the switch except terrible diorreah 2006 tried once more to come off Zoloft carefully with terrible results. reinstated Zoloft and used 2.5 mg of zyprexa to help Akathisia- horrid episode lasted 3 months with some akathisia and severe depression which I’d never had before. Withdrawal from zyprexa ( depression) 2008 50 mg of Zoloft then after 6 months I tapered to 25 mg and decided to stay there . 2012 stress event and peri menopause acute anxiety which led to, updosing to 125 mg, tortuous symptoms(akathisia) then stabilized, back to 50 mg- 2014 - same again down to 25 with Akathisia on updosing and a hospital visit. 2019 - 2023 Zoloft tapering by 2 mg linear taper every 3 months started at 50 mg, got to 25 mg around January 2023. June 2023- health anxiety and what feels like withdrawal again. Insomnia, anxiety, blunted good feelings. 2023 June- Zyprexa taken twice, ativan 1 mg taken once, temazepan infrequent but 15- 18th of June used for 4 nights 2023 August - introduced 7.5 mg of mirtazapine for 12 days then 15mg of mirtazapine. Sleep now ok but daily life depression, anhedonia, agitation and a weird feeling of being sedate and anxious at the same time. Currently holding. My introduction thread: Jaffa: Possibly late onset withdrawal Link to comment
Sonia009 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 @Dahlia50Hi, how are you getting on, are you still at the hospital? Sending best wishes.😊🙏 1 2008 10 mg Citalopram, 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide 2021 reduced Citalopram over three years,2023 5.2 mg Citalopram for approx. 1 year Sept 2023 taken off Citalopram and bendroflumethiazide , put on Amitriptyline 10 mg and Ramipril 2.5 mg October 2023 taken off Amitriptyline and Ramipril put on Propranolol 10 mg October 2023 put on Losartan 25 mg November 2023 taken off Losartan on Propranolol 10 mg December 2023 now on 2.5 mg bendroflumethiazide + Citalopram 0.5 mg. February 2024, taken off bendroflumethiazide, on bisoprolol 1.25 mg February 2024, taken off bisoprolol, on ramipril 1.25 mg + 0.5mg Citalopram, stopped ramipril. Link to comment
mariamisery Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 I hope that things turn around for the good really soon in all our lives. Let's keep encouraging each other through these hard times. 2 Maria George Started mirtazapine Dec. 20 2023 and stopped January 20,2024. Only 1 antidepressant Link to comment
mariamisery Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Hope you get some relief from the suffering Maria George Started mirtazapine Dec. 20 2023 and stopped January 20,2024. Only 1 antidepressant Link to comment
mariamisery Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Is there a timeline for taking mirtazapine for 7 weeks. It has alreafy been 2 awful months. Feeling awful but can't explain it. Tiredness, very emotional. It may be my central nervous system. I wonder how much longer. Will complete healing come. Thanks. Maria George Started mirtazapine Dec. 20 2023 and stopped January 20,2024. Only 1 antidepressant Link to comment
Mentor DaBro Posted March 19 Mentor Share Posted March 19 Hi @mariamisery there’s no standard timeline for anyone I’m afraid. There are other people on this site who took medication for a few days or weeks who may be able to help. I suggest starting your own thread with your own drug history for people to pick up on your situation and help you rather than ask the question in Dahlia50’s thread. 50 mg Sertraline Nov 2016 to Dec 2016 100 mg Sertraline Jan - March 2017 50 mg Sertraline April - June 2017 25 mg Sertraline July 2017 - Sept 2018 12.5 mg Sertraline Oct 2018 0 mg Nov 1 2018 Link to comment
mariamisery Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 So sorry not sure how to start thread. Still trying to navigate. Maria George Started mirtazapine Dec. 20 2023 and stopped January 20,2024. Only 1 antidepressant Link to comment
BaccatePlayer Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 30 minutes ago, mariamisery said: So sorry not sure how to start thread. Still trying to navigate. I think DaBro meant this: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/forums/topic/30670-mariamisery-can-i-survive-this-withdrawal/ 22.10.2020 sertraline (50 upped to 100mg for two months) and pregabalin (150mg for half year) 2021 mirtazapine (30mg for some months), amitryptyline (cascading dose but doctor took me off it before reaching five tablets), olanzapine (5mg), lithium (this one I reacted to terribly as well, maybe due to my Hashimoto disease) 2022 duloxetine, reboxetine, venlafaxine (all unsuccessful attemps stopped after one day with no side effects following days, only reboxetine pushed through with one box) 2023 mainly bupropion (150mg stopped after few weeks, 300mg stopped after few another weeks, 150mg stopped after few months) until IAR, buspirone (5mg) tried for 3 days autumn 2023 - 150mg bupropion daily, 12.12.2023 - bupropion stopped, 16.12.2023 - 100mg sertraline, 18.12.2023 - 150mg bupropion, 19, 20 & 21.12.2023 - 150mg bupropion & 5mg buspirone, Nothing ever since 21.12.2023. Link to comment
mariamisery Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Thank you. So this is how I start my own thread? Maria George Started mirtazapine Dec. 20 2023 and stopped January 20,2024. Only 1 antidepressant Link to comment
BaccatePlayer Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 5 minutes ago, mariamisery said: Thank you. So this is how I start my own thread? You can only have one introduction topic. Unless you mean general threads, but what DaBro refered to still belongs to your introduction topic. 22.10.2020 sertraline (50 upped to 100mg for two months) and pregabalin (150mg for half year) 2021 mirtazapine (30mg for some months), amitryptyline (cascading dose but doctor took me off it before reaching five tablets), olanzapine (5mg), lithium (this one I reacted to terribly as well, maybe due to my Hashimoto disease) 2022 duloxetine, reboxetine, venlafaxine (all unsuccessful attemps stopped after one day with no side effects following days, only reboxetine pushed through with one box) 2023 mainly bupropion (150mg stopped after few weeks, 300mg stopped after few another weeks, 150mg stopped after few months) until IAR, buspirone (5mg) tried for 3 days autumn 2023 - 150mg bupropion daily, 12.12.2023 - bupropion stopped, 16.12.2023 - 100mg sertraline, 18.12.2023 - 150mg bupropion, 19, 20 & 21.12.2023 - 150mg bupropion & 5mg buspirone, Nothing ever since 21.12.2023. Link to comment
mariamisery Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 I am lost .So where to go. Thanks Maria George Started mirtazapine Dec. 20 2023 and stopped January 20,2024. Only 1 antidepressant Link to comment
Mentor Catina7 Posted March 19 Mentor Share Posted March 19 Hi @mariamisery, I'm sorry you're lost. It can be challenging at first to navigate. Here is your personal "thread" where you made your first post. Anytime you want to make an additional post, you'll want to add it to this thread: https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/forums/topic/30670-mariamisery-can-i-survive-this-withdrawal/ Let me know it this makes sense! Catina ❤️ Disclaimer: This is not professional medical advice but is based on personal experience only. 1994 - 2017: Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Paxil, Wellbutrin, Zoloft, Seroquel, Buspar, Lorazepam, Xanax, Ambien 2005-present: Trazodone 50 mg 2017: Effexor XR 37.5 >> 75 mg 2020 (March): Began 10% monthly taper of Effexor XR (got down to 12 mg) 2021 (September): Completely crashed. Went back up to 37.5 mg but in doing so I kindled myself 2024: 1/1: 35.6 mg (-6 beads) | 2/1: 33.8 mg (-11 beads) | 3/1: 32.1 mg (-16 beads) | 4/1: (-18 beads) Reasons for starting psych meds: PMDD/Depression, Generalized Anxiety Disorder Other medications: Levothyroxine 75 mcg Supplements: Dr. Berg's Electrolyte Powder on occasion Link to comment
mariamisery Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Thanks so much. It makes sense. Yes it is not easy to navigate. ❤️ Maria George Started mirtazapine Dec. 20 2023 and stopped January 20,2024. Only 1 antidepressant Link to comment
mariamisery Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 So I just put my questions in the blue square above my name reply to this topic? Maria George Started mirtazapine Dec. 20 2023 and stopped January 20,2024. Only 1 antidepressant Link to comment
Mentor Catina7 Posted March 19 Mentor Share Posted March 19 16 minutes ago, mariamisery said: So I just put my questions in the blue square above my name reply to this topic? Right now you're in @Dahlia50's thread. If you want to make a comment on something in her thread pertaining to her, then yes you would put it there. Otherwise, if you want to provide an update or make a post about your own situation, then you'd want to put it in your own topic thread that has been made for you. Does that make sense? Hope so! Disclaimer: This is not professional medical advice but is based on personal experience only. 1994 - 2017: Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Paxil, Wellbutrin, Zoloft, Seroquel, Buspar, Lorazepam, Xanax, Ambien 2005-present: Trazodone 50 mg 2017: Effexor XR 37.5 >> 75 mg 2020 (March): Began 10% monthly taper of Effexor XR (got down to 12 mg) 2021 (September): Completely crashed. Went back up to 37.5 mg but in doing so I kindled myself 2024: 1/1: 35.6 mg (-6 beads) | 2/1: 33.8 mg (-11 beads) | 3/1: 32.1 mg (-16 beads) | 4/1: (-18 beads) Reasons for starting psych meds: PMDD/Depression, Generalized Anxiety Disorder Other medications: Levothyroxine 75 mcg Supplements: Dr. Berg's Electrolyte Powder on occasion Link to comment
mariamisery Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Yes thanks so much!! 1 Maria George Started mirtazapine Dec. 20 2023 and stopped January 20,2024. Only 1 antidepressant Link to comment
Mentor Catina7 Posted March 19 Mentor Share Posted March 19 2 minutes ago, mariamisery said: Yes thanks so much!! Yay! You're very welcome....glad I could help! 😊 Disclaimer: This is not professional medical advice but is based on personal experience only. 1994 - 2017: Prozac, Cymbalta, Celexa, Paxil, Wellbutrin, Zoloft, Seroquel, Buspar, Lorazepam, Xanax, Ambien 2005-present: Trazodone 50 mg 2017: Effexor XR 37.5 >> 75 mg 2020 (March): Began 10% monthly taper of Effexor XR (got down to 12 mg) 2021 (September): Completely crashed. Went back up to 37.5 mg but in doing so I kindled myself 2024: 1/1: 35.6 mg (-6 beads) | 2/1: 33.8 mg (-11 beads) | 3/1: 32.1 mg (-16 beads) | 4/1: (-18 beads) Reasons for starting psych meds: PMDD/Depression, Generalized Anxiety Disorder Other medications: Levothyroxine 75 mcg Supplements: Dr. Berg's Electrolyte Powder on occasion Link to comment
Dahlia50 Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 Sad today. Suffering immensely. Still in hospital. The doctor said that reinstate can help WD. Haven't slept in alkostopp 4 nights which is new thing. They have prescribed olanazapine in a low dose for sleep but don’t dare to take it. Or Propavan, do I dare to take it? Went home tonight temporary to see if I can sleep better. Now have extreme brain burning, nervpain, depression and other symptoms. Almost 6 months off. How can it get worse? Sometimes wonder if it's just WD or if I also crashed because I tapered too fast. Or zoloft injury comes to light now when off. How can you survive this if it takes so long for one's own serotonin to work and help well-being. Can it be this horrible? I'm probably a severe case and brain damaged, feels like it. I miss my good life. I was ok before the last reduction to zero, how can it be like this. Sorry, today very negative. Jealous of everyone who can enjoy the spring sun. Just want to say that you here mean a lot to me right now! Jealous of those who can enjoy the spring sun 2008 Zoloft 50mg 2022 May - 62,5mg (doctor wanted to increase). Felt sick, went back to 50mg efter 2 weeks 2022 Oct - Reducing dose to 37,5mg (from 50mg). WD in few days, advised to go back to 50 - I then got adverse worse paradoxical effect 2022 Oct - Zoloft 50mg severe side effects/adverse reaction 2023 May 5th - Reducing dose to 25mg (directly from 50mg by Dr, WD). 2023 Aug 1st - Reducing dose to 12,5mg 2023 Oct 10th - Removed dose from 12mg to zero by Dr. Tried reinstate citalopram after 3 months didnt work bad reaction. In Terrible WD. Use melatonin 4mg. Lergigan 5mg. Omega 3, D-vitamin, magnesium glycinate, zink. Link to comment
BaccatePlayer Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 14 minutes ago, Dahlia50 said: Went home tonight temporary to see if I can sleep better. Dahlia, remember there are always many options to try if you can't fall asleep. They may work or not, but at least you take steps to make your nights more peaceful and increase the chances of getting some rest. There's a topic here about insomnia and remember that since it's a new symptom, it may as well go away. I had it for a week and then it never came back. 16 minutes ago, Dahlia50 said: How can it get worse? Sometimes wonder if it's just WD or if I also crashed because I tapered too fast. Or zoloft injury comes to light now when off. How can you survive this if it takes so long for one's own serotonin to work and help well-being. Can it be this horrible? I'm probably a severe case and brain damaged, feels like it. I miss my good life. Dahlia, this is a lot of thoughts that anyone could wonder about in your situation. You can't change your past, but remember you will not be stuck in it forever. You won't be harmed by these symptoms. A drop from something to zero is always more challenging than a drop from something to something smaller. I also used to think I have brain damage because these sensations, the way I was feeling my nerves, it was so alien, it felt so broken... but it's not. It really isn't anything else than your experience. Please do not think about it now, you are already in a very difficult moment, do your best to let go of these rumminations because you are absolutely in no position to solve anything now with your thinking. It brings nothing but more pain. You are not beyond help. We'll be here for you, fighting for any second of your smile if needed. 24 minutes ago, Dahlia50 said: Sorry, today very negative. Jealous of everyone who can enjoy the spring sun. Just want to say that you here mean a lot to me right now! Jealous of those who can enjoy the spring sun This is completely understandable that you feel this way. No need to appologise. Remember that you're not dragged into different reality, you are here with us and your current mood is not determining your status. The recovery will come, this real Dahlia reading it now is not dreaming, she will be able to enjoy anything with time. Stay very strong and I wish you a solid rest during your sleep! 2 22.10.2020 sertraline (50 upped to 100mg for two months) and pregabalin (150mg for half year) 2021 mirtazapine (30mg for some months), amitryptyline (cascading dose but doctor took me off it before reaching five tablets), olanzapine (5mg), lithium (this one I reacted to terribly as well, maybe due to my Hashimoto disease) 2022 duloxetine, reboxetine, venlafaxine (all unsuccessful attemps stopped after one day with no side effects following days, only reboxetine pushed through with one box) 2023 mainly bupropion (150mg stopped after few weeks, 300mg stopped after few another weeks, 150mg stopped after few months) until IAR, buspirone (5mg) tried for 3 days autumn 2023 - 150mg bupropion daily, 12.12.2023 - bupropion stopped, 16.12.2023 - 100mg sertraline, 18.12.2023 - 150mg bupropion, 19, 20 & 21.12.2023 - 150mg bupropion & 5mg buspirone, Nothing ever since 21.12.2023. Link to comment
Kaylaq Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 @Dahlia50 checking to to see you are doing? 🙏🙏💕😊 1 On Venlafaxine for 30 years, 150mg 2018 first tapered, over 2 months, horrible crashed, reinstated 3 months later February 2023, tapering again, every 4 weeks reduced by 50% 150mg down to 37:5mg June 2023, from 37.5, broke open capsule, started tapering by one bead at a time every 2 weeks August, 2023 stopped last bead. Nov, 2023, started Saint John Wort, 600mg, 3x a day = 1800mg - reduced 1 capsules 300mg on Feb 15, 2024 Supplements, magnesium bisglycinate, B complex, multivitamin, Omega 3 complex, Vitamin D3, digestive enzymes also, use L-Theanine, occasionally natural GABA, - stopped this in Jan 2024 For H.Pylori- Manuka Honey, 850mgo, Mastica Chios gum, Kefir, & probiotics Link to comment
Dahlia50 Posted March 23 Author Share Posted March 23 Hi, Is there anything else you can take besides melatonin in this sensitive situation? My biggest problem right now is that I can't sleep at all. Have tried sleep meditation and relaxing music. I know drugs are not good for me but is there something that can help and not mess with the nervous system too much. Took 2 imovane did not help and did not go well. What are others doing here who suffered from insomnia during WD? 2008 Zoloft 50mg 2022 May - 62,5mg (doctor wanted to increase). Felt sick, went back to 50mg efter 2 weeks 2022 Oct - Reducing dose to 37,5mg (from 50mg). WD in few days, advised to go back to 50 - I then got adverse worse paradoxical effect 2022 Oct - Zoloft 50mg severe side effects/adverse reaction 2023 May 5th - Reducing dose to 25mg (directly from 50mg by Dr, WD). 2023 Aug 1st - Reducing dose to 12,5mg 2023 Oct 10th - Removed dose from 12mg to zero by Dr. Tried reinstate citalopram after 3 months didnt work bad reaction. In Terrible WD. Use melatonin 4mg. Lergigan 5mg. Omega 3, D-vitamin, magnesium glycinate, zink. Link to comment
Mentor DaBro Posted March 23 Mentor Share Posted March 23 I didn’t find that melatonin helped me. Doctor gave me imovane (Zopiclone) which helped for a week then don’t work and may have made sleeping without harder. Magnesium Glycinate helped me to stay asleep and perhaps get to sleep a little bit. I used to do A to Z of things in my head to distract me (cities, rivers, dog breeds….) there is a topic on insomnia in here. No magic solution though I’m afraid. It gets better I remember my first full night, then 2 and after a while I was sleeping well 50% of days. Now I just have 1 or 2 bad days per month. It takes time. 50 mg Sertraline Nov 2016 to Dec 2016 100 mg Sertraline Jan - March 2017 50 mg Sertraline April - June 2017 25 mg Sertraline July 2017 - Sept 2018 12.5 mg Sertraline Oct 2018 0 mg Nov 1 2018 Link to comment
Kaylaq Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 @Dahlia50 I too take the magnesium at night about 1/2 before bed, I listen to “sleep meditation” from “progressive hypnosis” from YouTube, it took a couple of nights for me to get used to it but it helped a lot. I’m getting 4hrs of solid sleep now, want more of course, … when I awake I listen to another healing video… https://youtu.be/h7I1a6nvk04?feature=shared https://youtu.be/wZGvAAlaMQk?feature=shared the above are my two standard ones I use, getting some sleep is essential to surviving this!! 🙏🙏🙏🥰🥰🤪 On Venlafaxine for 30 years, 150mg 2018 first tapered, over 2 months, horrible crashed, reinstated 3 months later February 2023, tapering again, every 4 weeks reduced by 50% 150mg down to 37:5mg June 2023, from 37.5, broke open capsule, started tapering by one bead at a time every 2 weeks August, 2023 stopped last bead. Nov, 2023, started Saint John Wort, 600mg, 3x a day = 1800mg - reduced 1 capsules 300mg on Feb 15, 2024 Supplements, magnesium bisglycinate, B complex, multivitamin, Omega 3 complex, Vitamin D3, digestive enzymes also, use L-Theanine, occasionally natural GABA, - stopped this in Jan 2024 For H.Pylori- Manuka Honey, 850mgo, Mastica Chios gum, Kefir, & probiotics Link to comment
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