Tapering2023 Posted January 17 Author Share Posted January 17 @LostInCanada @Onmyway @Emonda I wanted to say I am extremely grateful for your replies today. It has gotten me through absolute hell and given me glimpses of hope to continue moving forward. 2 Morning & Evening: 1250 EPA. 488 DHA. Magnesium glycinate 400mg magnesium 56mg Organic Turmeric root 450mg turmeric root extract 50mg black pepper fruit extract 3.3mg Evening: lexapro - melatonin IR/XR 1.5mg Folate 10mcg - vitamin b12 50mcg - adenosine monophosphate - 35 mg Lexapro (20mg in 2017, 6 year taper) 2023: January - .9ml February - .85ml March - .8ml April - .75ml May - .7ml June - .65ml July - 6ml (.825 on Gemini scale) severe withdrawal started. August - .672 mg Gemini scale September - .672 mg Gemini scale October - .672 mg Gemini scale November - .683 Gemini scale December - .683 Gemini scale 2024: January - .695 Gemini scale Link to comment
Moderator Onmyway Posted January 17 Moderator Share Posted January 17 (edited) 3 hours ago, Tapering2023 said: @Onmyway thanks for sharing! Do you have a recommendation for magnesium? I take one but am curious about others. The post talked about seeing symptoms as the effects of a brain healing from a nerve injury. I like this. it makes me wonder about how an updose would affect the healing process though. I was feeling hopeful with the updose… and hope it doesn’t rock the boat more. is there a post that explains how an updose would help balance out or mitigate symptoms? I am going from .683 to .695. @Tapering2023 I have only ever done two updoses - one where I went to 2.5mg from 0 after a month when I first discovered withdrawal from Mark Horowitz's paper which is technically a reinstatement and once when I discovered that I dropped by 50% by accident, so within a week (as soon as I discovered) I went up to make it so it was a 25% drop instead of a 50%. I didn't want to go to the full amount. I'm a believer in keeping things as stable as possible. I think of withdrawal as also a disruption rather than just lack of a saturation of the receptors especially after some time has passed from the drop. If it were the latter - we just needed to get the receptors some medicine again we'd all get better as soon as we reinstated/updosed. But that's not what we observe, especially after it's been a certain amount of time and changes have occurred in the other systems in the brain as well. The post that I linked describes some of those changes, many more we have no idea about. To me every change is another challenge for the body to adapt to yet another new status quo. I know in desperation we all feel like we need to do something - it's a cognitive bias known as the action bias but in my opinion (we have no hard data here) keeping things stable is better once a some time has passed. https://www.behavioraleconomics.com/resources/mini-encyclopedia-of-be/action-bias/ I can't tell you that an updose is not going to help, none of us know. But if I were making that decision for myself, I'd stay put personally. I really wish we had better data. OMW Edited January 17 by Onmyway Better link "Nothing so small as a moment is insurmountable, and moments are all that we have. You have survived every trial and tribulation that life has thrown at you up until this very instant. When future troubles come—and they will come—a version of you will be born into that moment that can conquer them, too." - Kevin Koenig I am not a doctor and this should not be considered medical advice. You can use the information and recommendations provided in whatever way you want and all decisions on your treatment are yours. In the next few weeks I do not have a lot of capacity to respond to questions. If you need a quick answer pls tag or ask other moderators who may want to be tagged. Aug 2000 - July 2003 (ct, 4-6 wk wd) , citalopram 20 mg, xanax prn, wellbutrin for a few months, trazodone prn Dec 2004 - July 2018 citalopram 20 mg, xanax prn (rarely used) Aug 2018 - citalopram 40 mg (self titrated up) September 2018 - January 2019 tapered citalopram - 40/30/20/10/5 no issues until a week after reaching 0 Feb 2019 0.25 xanax - 0.5/day (3 weeks) over to klonopin 0.25 once a day to manage severe wd March 6, reinstated citalopram 2.5 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 mg for sleep 2-3 times a week Apr 1st citalopram 2.0 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 once a week (off by 4/14/19- no tapering) citalopram (liquid) 4/14/19 -1.8 mg, 5/8/19 - 1.6 mg, 7/27/19 -1.5 mg, 8/15/19 - 1.35, 2/21/21 - 1.1 (smaller drops in between), 6/20/21 - 1.03 mg, 8/7/21- 1.025, 8/11/21 - 1.02, 8/15/21 - 1.015, 9/3/21 - 0.925 (fingers crossed!), 10/8/21 - 0.9, 10/18/21 - 0.875, 12/31/21 - 0.85, 1/7/22 - 0.825, 1/14/22 - 0.8, 1/22/22 - 0.785, 8/18/22 - 0.59, 12/15/2022 - 0.48, 2/15/22 - 0.43, 25/07/23 - 0.25 (mistake), 6/08/23 - 0.33mg Supplements: magnesium citrate and bi-glycinate Link to comment
Tapering2023 Posted January 17 Author Share Posted January 17 @Onmyway please man no. I had hope for this. Actually had some hope for once and it was just taken away. I have to updose and already did yesterday. I have to have hope for something. I can’t live like this for months or years. I can’t get one answer from someone then another answer from another. I need some relief to look forward to timeline wise. The not knowing how long is killing me. I did the updose and am having faith in it to bring relief and I ask that this decision be supported not torn down after a day of back and forth making the decision. Morning & Evening: 1250 EPA. 488 DHA. Magnesium glycinate 400mg magnesium 56mg Organic Turmeric root 450mg turmeric root extract 50mg black pepper fruit extract 3.3mg Evening: lexapro - melatonin IR/XR 1.5mg Folate 10mcg - vitamin b12 50mcg - adenosine monophosphate - 35 mg Lexapro (20mg in 2017, 6 year taper) 2023: January - .9ml February - .85ml March - .8ml April - .75ml May - .7ml June - .65ml July - 6ml (.825 on Gemini scale) severe withdrawal started. August - .672 mg Gemini scale September - .672 mg Gemini scale October - .672 mg Gemini scale November - .683 Gemini scale December - .683 Gemini scale 2024: January - .695 Gemini scale Link to comment
Moderator Onmyway Posted January 17 Moderator Share Posted January 17 Hi @Tapering2023 you asked and I gave you my opinion. You do what you want with your own medicines - we are not doctors and even if we were we do not have the answers. And even doctors regularly give conflicting advice. It is your body and your choice to do what you want with it. OMW "Nothing so small as a moment is insurmountable, and moments are all that we have. You have survived every trial and tribulation that life has thrown at you up until this very instant. When future troubles come—and they will come—a version of you will be born into that moment that can conquer them, too." - Kevin Koenig I am not a doctor and this should not be considered medical advice. You can use the information and recommendations provided in whatever way you want and all decisions on your treatment are yours. In the next few weeks I do not have a lot of capacity to respond to questions. If you need a quick answer pls tag or ask other moderators who may want to be tagged. Aug 2000 - July 2003 (ct, 4-6 wk wd) , citalopram 20 mg, xanax prn, wellbutrin for a few months, trazodone prn Dec 2004 - July 2018 citalopram 20 mg, xanax prn (rarely used) Aug 2018 - citalopram 40 mg (self titrated up) September 2018 - January 2019 tapered citalopram - 40/30/20/10/5 no issues until a week after reaching 0 Feb 2019 0.25 xanax - 0.5/day (3 weeks) over to klonopin 0.25 once a day to manage severe wd March 6, reinstated citalopram 2.5 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 mg for sleep 2-3 times a week Apr 1st citalopram 2.0 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 once a week (off by 4/14/19- no tapering) citalopram (liquid) 4/14/19 -1.8 mg, 5/8/19 - 1.6 mg, 7/27/19 -1.5 mg, 8/15/19 - 1.35, 2/21/21 - 1.1 (smaller drops in between), 6/20/21 - 1.03 mg, 8/7/21- 1.025, 8/11/21 - 1.02, 8/15/21 - 1.015, 9/3/21 - 0.925 (fingers crossed!), 10/8/21 - 0.9, 10/18/21 - 0.875, 12/31/21 - 0.85, 1/7/22 - 0.825, 1/14/22 - 0.8, 1/22/22 - 0.785, 8/18/22 - 0.59, 12/15/2022 - 0.48, 2/15/22 - 0.43, 25/07/23 - 0.25 (mistake), 6/08/23 - 0.33mg Supplements: magnesium citrate and bi-glycinate Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 4 hours ago, Tapering2023 said: I have to have hope for something Hey @Tapering2023 . One thing I have learned is once you make a decision just work with it in bringing success. As OMW said, it is her opinion and experience. Emonda has updosed and he has had success. Hundreds on here have updosed with success. Holding your dose for months wasn't working. I know some who have held for more than 2 years with no change. Be happy with the decision. As you mentioned before, something messed up when you switched to weighing the syringe, it was a huge drop and your body is not having it. You are doing well. One day at a time. 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
Tapering2023 Posted January 17 Author Share Posted January 17 Thank you. 1 Morning & Evening: 1250 EPA. 488 DHA. Magnesium glycinate 400mg magnesium 56mg Organic Turmeric root 450mg turmeric root extract 50mg black pepper fruit extract 3.3mg Evening: lexapro - melatonin IR/XR 1.5mg Folate 10mcg - vitamin b12 50mcg - adenosine monophosphate - 35 mg Lexapro (20mg in 2017, 6 year taper) 2023: January - .9ml February - .85ml March - .8ml April - .75ml May - .7ml June - .65ml July - 6ml (.825 on Gemini scale) severe withdrawal started. August - .672 mg Gemini scale September - .672 mg Gemini scale October - .672 mg Gemini scale November - .683 Gemini scale December - .683 Gemini scale 2024: January - .695 Gemini scale Link to comment
Tapering2023 Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 Second day of updose was just taken. The symptom that causes every other symptom is the persistent harm thoughts and images. It’s the same thought and image (even urge) 200 times a day at least. I just don’t know how someone can possibly live like this for this long. I need a go to coping strategy but the issue is I only have so much energy to cope and the thoughts don’t go away. I can cope about 50% of the day and I worry that my energy is running out to be able to fight the urges. It’s honestly ridiculous that this is a symptom of a drug that’s supposed to help you. I didn’t even have depression before I got prescribed this thing. sorry. I’m just venting. I have to use every ounce of energy I have all day doing mental gymnastics to try and keep myself centered. I fail half the day and panic and get thrown intense SI contemplation now as I don’t have a life really anymore. im barely getting projects done at my online job and I couldn’t do calls today because I was just fighting and trembling from the thoughts. This updose is my last hope that these thoughts and graphic images fade away. I don’t see how doing anything else will Help me. Other medications will just make things worse and going in somewhere will make things worse because of the trauma of that. Morning & Evening: 1250 EPA. 488 DHA. Magnesium glycinate 400mg magnesium 56mg Organic Turmeric root 450mg turmeric root extract 50mg black pepper fruit extract 3.3mg Evening: lexapro - melatonin IR/XR 1.5mg Folate 10mcg - vitamin b12 50mcg - adenosine monophosphate - 35 mg Lexapro (20mg in 2017, 6 year taper) 2023: January - .9ml February - .85ml March - .8ml April - .75ml May - .7ml June - .65ml July - 6ml (.825 on Gemini scale) severe withdrawal started. August - .672 mg Gemini scale September - .672 mg Gemini scale October - .672 mg Gemini scale November - .683 Gemini scale December - .683 Gemini scale 2024: January - .695 Gemini scale Link to comment
Moderator Onmyway Posted January 18 Moderator Share Posted January 18 What coping strategy are you using now? "Nothing so small as a moment is insurmountable, and moments are all that we have. You have survived every trial and tribulation that life has thrown at you up until this very instant. When future troubles come—and they will come—a version of you will be born into that moment that can conquer them, too." - Kevin Koenig I am not a doctor and this should not be considered medical advice. You can use the information and recommendations provided in whatever way you want and all decisions on your treatment are yours. In the next few weeks I do not have a lot of capacity to respond to questions. If you need a quick answer pls tag or ask other moderators who may want to be tagged. Aug 2000 - July 2003 (ct, 4-6 wk wd) , citalopram 20 mg, xanax prn, wellbutrin for a few months, trazodone prn Dec 2004 - July 2018 citalopram 20 mg, xanax prn (rarely used) Aug 2018 - citalopram 40 mg (self titrated up) September 2018 - January 2019 tapered citalopram - 40/30/20/10/5 no issues until a week after reaching 0 Feb 2019 0.25 xanax - 0.5/day (3 weeks) over to klonopin 0.25 once a day to manage severe wd March 6, reinstated citalopram 2.5 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 mg for sleep 2-3 times a week Apr 1st citalopram 2.0 mg (liquid), klonopin 0.25 once a week (off by 4/14/19- no tapering) citalopram (liquid) 4/14/19 -1.8 mg, 5/8/19 - 1.6 mg, 7/27/19 -1.5 mg, 8/15/19 - 1.35, 2/21/21 - 1.1 (smaller drops in between), 6/20/21 - 1.03 mg, 8/7/21- 1.025, 8/11/21 - 1.02, 8/15/21 - 1.015, 9/3/21 - 0.925 (fingers crossed!), 10/8/21 - 0.9, 10/18/21 - 0.875, 12/31/21 - 0.85, 1/7/22 - 0.825, 1/14/22 - 0.8, 1/22/22 - 0.785, 8/18/22 - 0.59, 12/15/2022 - 0.48, 2/15/22 - 0.43, 25/07/23 - 0.25 (mistake), 6/08/23 - 0.33mg Supplements: magnesium citrate and bi-glycinate Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 @Tapering2023 keep remembering this isn’t you but the drug. They are thoughts- not truth or reality. Never make a permanent decision for a temporary situation. I know it doesn’t feel like it but each day you are winning. So proud of you. It’s a lot. 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 On 1/13/2024 at 9:37 AM, Tapering2023 said: .6ml was the syringe dosage I was last stable, which comes out to around .825 on the weighing scale. I went to the weighing scale though for the purpose of being more accurate. I am not sure why I started taking .672mg on the weighing scale as that was a lot lower… even lower than .55ml with the syringe. I tried updosing 2 months ago from .672 to .683, and nothing happened. So doing the math from the first figure of 0.825mg weight, your drop to 0.672 mg was 19% . The dose you are now taking is a 2% updose from 0.683 mg and a total 3% updose from that 0.825 mg. Like I mentioned, we have to find that sweet spot between then and now since your body has made some adjustments to the lower dose. Your reactions are unfortunately too common. You will heal. Others have. Do you feel better after taking your dose? Would it help to move the dose to the morning? (1-2 hours earlier each day) Then maybe you could sleep through the worst if it? 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
Tapering2023 Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 I never thought about moving the dose to the morning. I take it at 10:30 pm now Morning & Evening: 1250 EPA. 488 DHA. Magnesium glycinate 400mg magnesium 56mg Organic Turmeric root 450mg turmeric root extract 50mg black pepper fruit extract 3.3mg Evening: lexapro - melatonin IR/XR 1.5mg Folate 10mcg - vitamin b12 50mcg - adenosine monophosphate - 35 mg Lexapro (20mg in 2017, 6 year taper) 2023: January - .9ml February - .85ml March - .8ml April - .75ml May - .7ml June - .65ml July - 6ml (.825 on Gemini scale) severe withdrawal started. August - .672 mg Gemini scale September - .672 mg Gemini scale October - .672 mg Gemini scale November - .683 Gemini scale December - .683 Gemini scale 2024: January - .695 Gemini scale Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 @Tapering2023do you feel better after taking it? 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
Tapering2023 Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 I don’t feel a difference after I take it. Morning & Evening: 1250 EPA. 488 DHA. Magnesium glycinate 400mg magnesium 56mg Organic Turmeric root 450mg turmeric root extract 50mg black pepper fruit extract 3.3mg Evening: lexapro - melatonin IR/XR 1.5mg Folate 10mcg - vitamin b12 50mcg - adenosine monophosphate - 35 mg Lexapro (20mg in 2017, 6 year taper) 2023: January - .9ml February - .85ml March - .8ml April - .75ml May - .7ml June - .65ml July - 6ml (.825 on Gemini scale) severe withdrawal started. August - .672 mg Gemini scale September - .672 mg Gemini scale October - .672 mg Gemini scale November - .683 Gemini scale December - .683 Gemini scale 2024: January - .695 Gemini scale Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 I know most suggest taking ADs in the morning. I wonder if it would help. Do you have any issues with sleep? It can cause insomnia for some. 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
Tapering2023 Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 I sleep 6-7 hours right now. But I’d have to slowly change the dose times overtime to take it in the morning right. Morning & Evening: 1250 EPA. 488 DHA. Magnesium glycinate 400mg magnesium 56mg Organic Turmeric root 450mg turmeric root extract 50mg black pepper fruit extract 3.3mg Evening: lexapro - melatonin IR/XR 1.5mg Folate 10mcg - vitamin b12 50mcg - adenosine monophosphate - 35 mg Lexapro (20mg in 2017, 6 year taper) 2023: January - .9ml February - .85ml March - .8ml April - .75ml May - .7ml June - .65ml July - 6ml (.825 on Gemini scale) severe withdrawal started. August - .672 mg Gemini scale September - .672 mg Gemini scale October - .672 mg Gemini scale November - .683 Gemini scale December - .683 Gemini scale 2024: January - .695 Gemini scale Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 13 minutes ago, Tapering2023 said: I’d have to slowly change the dose times overtime Yes, 1-2 hours earlier each day till you are where you want to be. 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
Tapering2023 Posted January 19 Author Share Posted January 19 3rd day of updose. Yesterday was actually a bit better. Today I have started out terribly. Having homicidal thoughts I’ve never had before. But the change shouldn’t be felt for 7-10 correct? Morning & Evening: 1250 EPA. 488 DHA. Magnesium glycinate 400mg magnesium 56mg Organic Turmeric root 450mg turmeric root extract 50mg black pepper fruit extract 3.3mg Evening: lexapro - melatonin IR/XR 1.5mg Folate 10mcg - vitamin b12 50mcg - adenosine monophosphate - 35 mg Lexapro (20mg in 2017, 6 year taper) 2023: January - .9ml February - .85ml March - .8ml April - .75ml May - .7ml June - .65ml July - 6ml (.825 on Gemini scale) severe withdrawal started. August - .672 mg Gemini scale September - .672 mg Gemini scale October - .672 mg Gemini scale November - .683 Gemini scale December - .683 Gemini scale 2024: January - .695 Gemini scale Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 4 hours ago, Tapering2023 said: change shouldn’t be felt for 7-10 correct You can start feeling change within a day but usually it takes 7-10 to get the full effect. The effects of these drugs are horrible and unfortunately many have had those same reactions. Did you change the time of your dose? I think probably the time should stay at 10:30 pm till we see the full effect of this updose. I am sure your body can only handle one change at a time. Glad yesterday was a bit better. Let's hope that is the trend. 👍 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
Tapering2023 Posted January 19 Author Share Posted January 19 Okay. How will I ever get better from this and survive it? I can barely even do a call and work I am considering quitting. But then having no money would make me more stressed and depressed Morning & Evening: 1250 EPA. 488 DHA. Magnesium glycinate 400mg magnesium 56mg Organic Turmeric root 450mg turmeric root extract 50mg black pepper fruit extract 3.3mg Evening: lexapro - melatonin IR/XR 1.5mg Folate 10mcg - vitamin b12 50mcg - adenosine monophosphate - 35 mg Lexapro (20mg in 2017, 6 year taper) 2023: January - .9ml February - .85ml March - .8ml April - .75ml May - .7ml June - .65ml July - 6ml (.825 on Gemini scale) severe withdrawal started. August - .672 mg Gemini scale September - .672 mg Gemini scale October - .672 mg Gemini scale November - .683 Gemini scale December - .683 Gemini scale 2024: January - .695 Gemini scale Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 You will pull through this. We can draw on the fact that others have been worse and have come out successful. Can you take a medical leave or have modified duties? Do you have a support system? It is hard for others to fully understand this I know. 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 @Tapering2023 would it help to make an appointment with Mark Horowitz? Do you know who he is? He has also tapered off Lexapro as well. Some members have made appointments with him. I do not know the cost. 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
Tapering2023 Posted January 19 Author Share Posted January 19 How can I make an appointment? Morning & Evening: 1250 EPA. 488 DHA. Magnesium glycinate 400mg magnesium 56mg Organic Turmeric root 450mg turmeric root extract 50mg black pepper fruit extract 3.3mg Evening: lexapro - melatonin IR/XR 1.5mg Folate 10mcg - vitamin b12 50mcg - adenosine monophosphate - 35 mg Lexapro (20mg in 2017, 6 year taper) 2023: January - .9ml February - .85ml March - .8ml April - .75ml May - .7ml June - .65ml July - 6ml (.825 on Gemini scale) severe withdrawal started. August - .672 mg Gemini scale September - .672 mg Gemini scale October - .672 mg Gemini scale November - .683 Gemini scale December - .683 Gemini scale 2024: January - .695 Gemini scale Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Dr Mark Horowitz, MBBS PhD https://markhorowitz.org/ There is a contact form to fill out. In the message maybe just ask how to make an appointment. Couldn't find anything else on Google. 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Some members that have tapered off Lexapro or are tapering off it may have insights as well. Happy2Heal, sand it and Nicolas45140 are a few. Looking through their threads and asking them specifics may help. Nocolas45140 has had appointments with Mark Horowitz as well. 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
Tapering2023 Posted January 19 Author Share Posted January 19 I just don’t know when or even if I’m healing. Two updoses. Still on the meds. How does one really know healing is even happening? There’s paradoxical reactions, withdrawal, tolerance, all these factors that I have no certainty about. I really don’t understand how I can just continue living suffering like this everyday with the possibility of healing and not even a guarantee. Morning & Evening: 1250 EPA. 488 DHA. Magnesium glycinate 400mg magnesium 56mg Organic Turmeric root 450mg turmeric root extract 50mg black pepper fruit extract 3.3mg Evening: lexapro - melatonin IR/XR 1.5mg Folate 10mcg - vitamin b12 50mcg - adenosine monophosphate - 35 mg Lexapro (20mg in 2017, 6 year taper) 2023: January - .9ml February - .85ml March - .8ml April - .75ml May - .7ml June - .65ml July - 6ml (.825 on Gemini scale) severe withdrawal started. August - .672 mg Gemini scale September - .672 mg Gemini scale October - .672 mg Gemini scale November - .683 Gemini scale December - .683 Gemini scale 2024: January - .695 Gemini scale Link to comment
modelarz71 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Hello, Do you suppose that taking more mg will get rid of WD? I ask because I am asking myself same question. I have IBS, depression and waking up at night. I stopped 0.20 mg in November and I regret a bit because maybe I should not quit but increase and I would get rid of IBS and insomnia - but it even sounds ridiculous so unrealistic We are not taking yet benzo maybe this is something to be happy about 2022 escitalopram from July 25 2.5 mg, 5 mg, 10 mg August-December- 7.5 mg, 5 mg, (1 month) 2.5 mg - C/T WD 2023 Short reinstatement from WD date: escitalopram May 25-June 12 5 mg, 2.5 mg plus interrupted Reinstatement 24 07.23 0.5mg escitalopram, 18.08.23 0.22 escitalopram, 07.09. 0.28 Now 0.30 mg escitalopram Last year 6 months on escitalopram, I was very agitated, hypomaniacal and with little need for sleep. Since July 2023 reinstated and reduced from 0.50 mg to 0.30 mg Lexapro - difficulty sleeping and lack of sleep, eye pain and IBS. Anhedonia. November 2023 - 0mg Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 9 minutes ago, Tapering2023 said: possibility of healing and not even a guarantee. We all have to keep hope alive. You just can't go down that rabbit hole. I know for myself that I have made good progress despite thinking I would never get this far. I have a long way to go and it will take a long time. You are at a very small dose. Be patient, you have come so far. This too will pass. 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
Tapering2023 Posted January 19 Author Share Posted January 19 Just so hard for me to see hope especially since I’ve just had more intrusive thoughts 3rd day in of an updose. And it only gets stronger on a updose each day. Not sure how it could help after today. I hope to God it does by some miracle. Benzos dont stop thoughts either. Propanalol didn’t, I tried that a few times in December. Nothing. Morning & Evening: 1250 EPA. 488 DHA. Magnesium glycinate 400mg magnesium 56mg Organic Turmeric root 450mg turmeric root extract 50mg black pepper fruit extract 3.3mg Evening: lexapro - melatonin IR/XR 1.5mg Folate 10mcg - vitamin b12 50mcg - adenosine monophosphate - 35 mg Lexapro (20mg in 2017, 6 year taper) 2023: January - .9ml February - .85ml March - .8ml April - .75ml May - .7ml June - .65ml July - 6ml (.825 on Gemini scale) severe withdrawal started. August - .672 mg Gemini scale September - .672 mg Gemini scale October - .672 mg Gemini scale November - .683 Gemini scale December - .683 Gemini scale 2024: January - .695 Gemini scale Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 What do you think about making an appointment with Mark Horowitz? Did you see my private message with his info? 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
Tapering2023 Posted January 19 Author Share Posted January 19 I emailed him Morning & Evening: 1250 EPA. 488 DHA. Magnesium glycinate 400mg magnesium 56mg Organic Turmeric root 450mg turmeric root extract 50mg black pepper fruit extract 3.3mg Evening: lexapro - melatonin IR/XR 1.5mg Folate 10mcg - vitamin b12 50mcg - adenosine monophosphate - 35 mg Lexapro (20mg in 2017, 6 year taper) 2023: January - .9ml February - .85ml March - .8ml April - .75ml May - .7ml June - .65ml July - 6ml (.825 on Gemini scale) severe withdrawal started. August - .672 mg Gemini scale September - .672 mg Gemini scale October - .672 mg Gemini scale November - .683 Gemini scale December - .683 Gemini scale 2024: January - .695 Gemini scale Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Good. Not only does he have the research backing him but he knows the ins and outs personally being on lexapro. 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
Tapering2023 Posted January 24 Author Share Posted January 24 Has anyone heard of grounding bedsheets? Morning & Evening: 1250 EPA. 488 DHA. Magnesium glycinate 400mg magnesium 56mg Organic Turmeric root 450mg turmeric root extract 50mg black pepper fruit extract 3.3mg Evening: lexapro - melatonin IR/XR 1.5mg Folate 10mcg - vitamin b12 50mcg - adenosine monophosphate - 35 mg Lexapro (20mg in 2017, 6 year taper) 2023: January - .9ml February - .85ml March - .8ml April - .75ml May - .7ml June - .65ml July - 6ml (.825 on Gemini scale) severe withdrawal started. August - .672 mg Gemini scale September - .672 mg Gemini scale October - .672 mg Gemini scale November - .683 Gemini scale December - .683 Gemini scale 2024: January - .695 Gemini scale Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 @Tapering2023 I put 'grounding sheets' in the search on here and a few have tried them with good results. Make sure you use the single quote mark with the words to do the search. 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
Tapering2023 Posted January 24 Author Share Posted January 24 Has anyone heard of red light therapy and do they recommend it before bed Morning & Evening: 1250 EPA. 488 DHA. Magnesium glycinate 400mg magnesium 56mg Organic Turmeric root 450mg turmeric root extract 50mg black pepper fruit extract 3.3mg Evening: lexapro - melatonin IR/XR 1.5mg Folate 10mcg - vitamin b12 50mcg - adenosine monophosphate - 35 mg Lexapro (20mg in 2017, 6 year taper) 2023: January - .9ml February - .85ml March - .8ml April - .75ml May - .7ml June - .65ml July - 6ml (.825 on Gemini scale) severe withdrawal started. August - .672 mg Gemini scale September - .672 mg Gemini scale October - .672 mg Gemini scale November - .683 Gemini scale December - .683 Gemini scale 2024: January - .695 Gemini scale Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I did a 'red light therapy ' search on here. This is a whole section devoted to it. I myself use a special red night light that I keep on through the night to lessen the cortisol rush and I think it helps with that also. https://www.survivingantidepressants.org/forums/topic/26011-red-light-therapy/?do=findComment&comment=562211 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
LostInCanada Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 @Tapering2023 any improvement since the updose? What day is it since then? 20 yr+ Paroxetine/ Dec2018-May 2022 20 mg/ May 2022 30mg/2022.07.28-2022.08.24 30mg to 0mg/ August 24-29 2022 10mg Prozac/2022.11.28-2022.12.04- 5mg Paroxetine/Dec 5&6/22 10mg Paroxetine/ Dec 8&9/22 10mg Prozac/ 2022.12.07 to 2023.07.01 5mg Paroxetine TAPER 23.07.02-58mgpw/4.9mgai/ 23.07.21-4.8 mg/23.07.28-4.73 mg/23.08.04-4.65 mg/21.09.23-4.58 mg/27.10.23-4.56 mg/5.12.23-4.54 mg/2.1.24-4.52 mg/9.1.24-4.51 mg/17.1.24-4.49 mg/26.1.24-4.47 mg/6.2.24-4.46 mg/19.2.24-4.44mg /4.4.24-4.43mg/28.4.24-4.4mg/5.5.24-4.39 mg 8am-probiotics/9am-paroxetine, 200mg mag bisglycinate/ 1000mg Vitamin D/noon-1000 mg algae oil (500mg DHA/10mg EPA/620mg Omega 3)/5pm-75 mg DGL/200mg calcium citrate/8pm-.25 mg melatonin "... your strength will be in keeping calm..."-Isaiah 30:15 I am not a medical professional just your peer. The suggestions I give are based on personal experience and/or the well documented experience of others. Link to comment
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